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Question Thread #42

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Last Updated May 2020

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atkinson as author of the kybalion

kind of scary how everybody belives that Atkinson was the author of the Kybalion when there's no hard evidence of that

if you ever study the history of influential anonymous works of literature on religion, there is usually quite a bit of a freaky mystery that goes along with it

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Wizards of /fringe/ under attack from anti-CIA forces

Do you feel that? That complete lack of sound? That feeling that nothing is going on here?

Exactly. It's the sound of someone hiding in the shadows, lurking, scheming. Normally there would be some branches cracking - there are people out there. Silence of this kind means something sinister is being pulled together.

We saw the signs on mewch. The spam. The conspiracy theorist arguing from weird angles. The luther shills. The inability of Megamilk to properly estimate the situation. Hanz's release from mental ward. Smiley's homelessness.

Look up mewch on archive.org.


>''we're sorry, this URL was excluded"

It was deliberately wiped from the web. How many kB does a webpage take? What is the price of storage today? The only reason something was deleted from an archive is that someone wanted the contents gone.

Mewch/fringe/ had a thread containing every single Order of Nine Angles PDF, in all over 60 of them. It's well known ONA is controlled by CIA, same as with affiliated groups like AW and ToB.

They had no reason to bring mewch/fringe/ down.

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How We Live in Fear

Have you ever noticed just how many people live in fear in their everyday lives? People are afraid of:

>losing their jobs

>paying their rent

>asking out the opposite sex

>questioning commands given by their boss

>their car breaking down

Much of our lives are dependent upon the mercy of others to protect us from the great consequences our actions would bring. But most fear goes even deeper. You have many people that will go through their lives and never question the things that happened to them as children. They will bottle them up or even worse they will justify them. It is only when it becomes a benefit to them that they will bring them up, such as telling your friends that you were raped by an uncle to gain sympathy points.

Or people just afraid to examine things in their pasts, I had an acquaintance at the bar who came to get smashed everyday without fail. I always wondered why, I kept pressing him until I finally got an answer, he lost his girlfriend long ago, she cheated and broke up with him, took his house too. Drove away some of his friend. Yes you can say he is stupid and made bad choices. But there has got to be something deeper.

There seems to be a force that constantly presses people to be dishonest with themselves. One that drives them to suppress the unfortunate circumstances of their lives with booze, drugs, entertainment and food. Thoughts?

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What is esoteric meaning of a spiral and golden ratio?

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I can't stop thinking about Vril/Od/Prana/Chi/Loosh/Magnetism/Vitality whatever you want to call it. For a week it's all I can do is research this subject obsessively, looking through the writings of William Walker Atkinson, through the Bhagavad Gita, and the Bible, and everything else I can that talks about it and just looking for the parts in each book that talks about this life force or energy. I just got an email from someone about it unsolicited while writing an email to Tom Montalk about it, major synchronicities happening now. I think my intense concentration on the subject and my experiments this week are stirring something up…




I was reading things on /pol/ about the CCP and about PMCs (Blackwater, Raytheon, Midway) recruiting and watching the three gorges dams threads happening and pooling tons of psychic energy into manifesting major happenings in China like we did with Ebola Chan and Bane Shitposting. Around the same time I saw threads talking about New Swabia, Fourth Reich Germans, and starting to think Germany never really lost the war but actually succeeded in creating the master race and making a break away civilization. Since then I've been going through both archives and any threads about the topic as well as created one thread that oddly got me banned from /pol/ for three days.

Not too long I then found a connection between Raytheon and the Thule Society. The deeper I got into it the more and more I started to believe that a super race is amongst us, created by the Germans, that has not fallen. I of course have read every book on Atkinson I have ever been able to find and remember his book on Vril and so started to read that once a day ever day, often falling asleep to the audiobook version of it. I have been listening carefully, really trying to understand, and appreciate the nuances of what he is saying. From there I have started to go through his other available books for clues and in the last two days was reading and re-reading this: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYmXy0mNMNiNxDS1mAqLahg_gxzIpKLSG

Especially playing and replaying this chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nPVxmjtROw

I was today starting to look again into Dynamic Thought and other of Atkinson's books to see how he spoke about the same phenomena with different terms and decided I'd get the help of Montalk so made an email to share what I could and then got an email from someone I've never received any emails from before (at least as far as I can remember) about the same subject I am obsessed with right now.

I have also been thinking, after I'm done compiling my notes, and trying to write down what I want about this subject of going out onto the streets of my city and going to the occult book store and looking for practitioners to learn from in person. I have had some experience with people who can manipulate this force before, for example a medicine man about 200 km north of me, but he is harder for me to get back into contact with. His hands generated an actual perceptible heat and he could accurately sense my aura when I tense and relax the muscles.

I want to think very clearly about this and try not to make any mistakes as I learn about what vril is and how to master it. I have also sporadic experience with this and can relate to notes of Atkinson talking about people seeing it clairvoyantly. Exactly the way he describes it, I've seen it before, when I was very relaxed in my room and has eyes closed and was experimenting with seeing around me without opening eyelids and my father walked into my room and I saw these blue spiky things all over the form of his body. Also manipulating energy in my body and producing notable body heat and other effects. So these personal anecdotes make me realize that Atkinson is not making things up but has seen things I have seen myself.


This is a book that is also mentioned by Manly P. Hall in The Secret Teachings of All Ages. I have only read the first chapter of it, some years ago, and while I was reading it in April I had been spontaneously healed of the effects of an issue related to having gassed myself the last fall and was cured of that issue ever since. I may need to continue reading it.

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The Final Game (Adventures of Daniel Rumanos)

Is this the end of Dr. Rumanos?!




#Baltimore #ScienceFiction

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Astrology, and the '13th zodiac' fiasco

Astrology is something I really don't see discussed that often on /fringe/, yet people still use it the same way other people use Tarot, I Ching, or other divination methods.

But lately when I've been searching astrology-related stuff to get a gauge on how 2020 has been predicted across various websites, I saw a blogpost on how apparently july revealed there is now a 13th Zodiac: Ophiucus. Now, I admit, neither astrology, nor astronomy are my strong points, but this had me curious: had everything that people have been predicting for 2020 was either misinformed or straight-up wrong??

So, I searched for information on this ophiucus as a zodiac sign. Searching "Nasa Ophiucus", reveals nothing but clickbait trash saying "no it's not a real zodiac" or "it's a real zodiac, we should treat it as such!" Searching "Ophiucus Zodiac" doesn't reveal anything less or more significant, just astrology websites that have either embraced the '13th zodiac', or are calling it out as a hoax.

What I've learned about the constellation itself and it's relation to astrology, is that in ancient times, it- and along with eight other constellations were known about, but discarded in favor of the famous twelve, to keep it a geometrically pleasing shape.

Ultimately, I'm curious about what real astrofags think on this, and what it means in the /fringe/ game of things. Because if this shit is real, and the clickbait blogosphere is trying to suppress it, then in means that predictions all across the board are at best, inaccurate, and at worst completely false.

Worst case scenario, it's another nothingburger. But the fact that it's a serpent-wrestling heroic figure, whose main quality is healing, feels like a positive synchronicity to me.

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Why are you so poor?

If you can do magic then why aren't you rich?

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Neophytes essentials

Hello /fringe/

I make this thread to upload books that are essential reading for every neophytes out there. Some of them might have been lost so I am here to put them back there. Feel free to add anything that  might be relevant to this thread. So let begins.

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Cult of Saturn

I'm trying to understand the difference between the Sun "Yahweh", the demiurge (which I understand to be the same as the Sun) Lucifer (whom I understand to be Saturn aka Satan) am I getting this right? I'm trying really hard to understand the difference.

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Why Healers Don't Ask For Money

A youtuber going by the name "Royal Borne" commented this:

>C Programming, really insist this things to be free. If people would get something for nothing, we tend to abuse it. When people go to doctors, they spend thousands of $$$. $49 per month is not much at all and you would also learn how to do it (energy healing) for yourself. Doctors won't teach you. Peace!!

In response to a youtuber going by the name "C Programming":

>Why you are not talking about what is this technique and how to learn ? Why you want money from your website ?

This is my comment to Royal Borne:

That may be true in general but when you are clairvoyant you can look into the light around a person and get impressions about who they are, what their intentions and character are, and what motivates them. Based on that information you can decided to approach them, reject them, etc. You can also see what is the decree of god for a person (their fate) and know in such cases it can not changed and trying to change it is vanity and what is their karma (aka something they have reaped through cause and effect relations) and whether you are strong enough to process and heal it. If you are at a high enough stage of development also the universe will provide for you whatever you need without you going out of your way to demand it. You can know for example beforehand just looking at a person whether they will be appreciative, charitable, etc. or whether they will abuse you, take advantage of you, etc.

Listen I'm going to explain to you right now why spiritually advanced people don't ask for money. It is because at a certain stage of development you can compel susceptible people to do whatever you want for you through mental influence. If you want someone to give you money, or to have sex with you, etc. you can will these things to happen. That is why in spiritual lineages we must restrain our vices and embrace hardships of poverty and celibacy. Otherwise we can get carried away abusing our own power to do horrible things. The more advanced we are spiritually, the more and more we must renounce the world, or our passions will incur terrible consequences (bad karma) for us and stifle our spiritual development. God himself is impersonal, though he manifests himself in divine personalities so it is possible to have a personal relationship with God through his various earthly incarnations (that's the whole deal with Christ and the mystery of the trinity and a way to reconcile personal theism with panentheism btw).

Now can he be going around healing people and asking for money? Sure. He is however either a "black magician" aka one who is stagnating or harming his spiritual development willfully or a simple fool who has stumbled upon one of nature's gifts and learned to heal but has not unfolded much besides. I feel like "black magician" is very strong word to use here as there are those who do very great harm and here I think he is doing very little harm if any at all, however he is definitely stagnating, because to be closer to god one must become selfless and impersonal in their motives, yielding to the intellect and then to the spirit, as one progresses through the stages of development. The heart alone is blind, the desires of man are myriad, but for god there is only pure actuality or will; god has nothing to desire for all things are fulfilled in and by him.

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OBE and its possibilities

Guys I have been progressing on my way to achieving more frequent OBEs and I would like to have a thread for the experienced to tell us more about it and what they do.

Specifically, I have a couple of questions about what can be done.

Can you connect to higher consciousness and glean knowledge about specific subjects this way?

And can you modify your body (physical healing for example) straight from an AP position? It makes energy manipulation easier, doesnt it?

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physics redpill: we have fairly good mathematical descriptions of the behaviour of EM phenomena but to this day theres no "real" model of how it works.

"spacetime" gave a "mechanical" model for gravity, a lot of people do not like this idea but all the other alternative proposals equally requiere a "leap of faith" be it for gravity or EM, example:

Electric Universe: a minute atomic nucleus displacement=gravity

Ken wheeler: "counter-space"+ aether (magnetism, EM waves)

Miles Mattis: "B-photon" field=mediator for EM phenomena, "continously expanding mass"=gravity

Maxwell, Tesla, Faraday…: aether= medium for EM waves

if the ""I love science"" crowd tells you you don't know what your talking about this is the quote to use:

Fundamental lectures Richard Feynman:

>The best way is to use the abstract field idea. That it is abstract is unfortunate, but necessary. The attempts to try to represent the electric field as the motion of some kind of gear wheels, or in terms of lines, or of stresses in some kind of material have used up more effort of physicists than it would have taken simply to get the right answers about electrodynamics. It is interesting that the correct equations for the behavior of light were worked out by MacCullagh in 1839. But people said to him: “Yes, but there is no real material whose mechanical properties could possibly satisfy those equations, and since light is an oscillation that must vibrate in something, we cannot believe this abstract equation business.” If people had been more open-minded, they might have believed in the right equations for the behavior of light a lot earlier than they did.


personally I haven't found a theory that is fully satisfactory without requiring something extraordinary like "spacetime" or "counter-space", the "nicest" one I have found is miles mattis and the "B-photon field"

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Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)

I'd like to share a book with you all.

It is the core book of Falun Dafa entitled 'Zhuan Falun'. It talks about spiritual things from a scientific perspective. It talks about other dimensions, the soul, the cosmos in the microcosm and the macrocosm, supernatural abilities, karma, healing, the true history of mankind, transcending the 5 elements and leaving the 3 realms and many many other fascinating things.

It is a spiritual science of the highest order. I'll give you a copy and you can take a look if you like, totally up to you of course:


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Why do the elites worship Satan?

Are they not afraid of burning in the Lake Of Fire once God returns to Earth?

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The best books on the NWO, illuminati and secret societies

What are the best books you guys know about the secret societies, and the NWO? I know the guy that made the illuminati card game made it after a book which i have , gonna upload it later, feel free to share the best books on the subject.

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Why do some people do human sacrifice? What is the point? Is it the breaking of a taboo? Did any of you Anons take part in one? If yes, what did it bring?

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Looking for Books

im looking for books that are not corrupted or atleast where i can learn alot from them without being fooled … i got into nag hammadi and philipp k dick while i find dicks books very interesting i take them with a grain of salt . would appreciate your recommendations thank you and have a nice day !

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Immortals Thread "Revived Edition"

Hey Spiritual Ancap anon here, This thread is gonna be about immortality, vampirism, your higher self. and the different dimensions. Higher science and different states of being. Also about all the beings here, I found most of the ascended masters here on this planet , but not all have accessed their knowledge yet.

Since meguca got taken down this is the only active fringe board left. which is sad, meguca was the best.

small update i have learned that im dark matter in human form, Yule is my spiritual name which means within whispers, i have different consciousnesses which can do different things in altered states of being, I was also Moses in my past life on earth, and Abel. (you are also everything in the universe) i have learned to teleport (not at will) and also work with nature and the spirits and do weather manipulation, i can also access the whole of humanity's collective consciousness in high states, and only the people around me in lower states, i also figured out that im both all the good in the universe and all the bad, (beyond duality) , you can gain energy from different sources in higher states, such as fire ,wind, sun, water, earth, and the ether, void, falun gong, nature too, also other people and their emotions and energy, if you drain nature too much the plants die so be careful with that. My mission here is to upgrade humanity together with the 144 thousand Moraceaens here on the planet. we are the builder race which comes from the galactic center incarnating in human bodies.

Also eat raw meat

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Masculine and feminine spiritual mindset

So I was listening to this you tuber called Enlighten and I just figured something out:

The feminine mindset and religion is always about having sex, making love, procreation and the circular current in the Universe

The masculine mindset and religion is always one about abandoning the matter, renouncing the pleasure's of the flesh, purification for the transcendental, virtually denying the feminist religion mindset. That is the reason why monks and holy men were supposed to abstain from sexual intercourse with women. They were above women, they didn't want to contribute to the profiliferation of the material world with their seed.

And in many ways, we the incels and mgtow of 8chan are the same. Despite what reddit propaganda would have you think most guys here could get a roastie or a degenerate feminist. But they choose not and to derive pleasure from denying them their reproductive mandate and seeing them dying childless.

In many way we are the last outpost of the masculine mythic mindset.

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William Walker Atkinson Being Censored & Made Politically Correct


This bitch is censoring and revising the writings of William Walker Atkinson to make them more politically correct / egalitarian. This is an attack on history and truth. She should delete her edits and restore the original text back to how it is and never engage in historical revisionism ever again.

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Equanimity (Latin: æquanimitas, having an even mind; aequus even; animus mind/soul) is a state of psychological stability and composure which is undisturbed by experience of or exposure to emotions, pain, or other phenomena that may cause others to lose the balance of their mind. The virtue and value of equanimity is extolled and advocated by a number of major religions and ancient philosophies.


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Ignore Chloe, I just like looking at her.

Look at the picture "What you already have"

It is designed to provide enlightenment.

You should experience spiritual growth within ten minutes of having viewed it.

Think of homonculus. Butterfly escaping apartment. etx.

Don't think of Chloe. She's awesome.



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Dream Analysis

I am a heavy kundalini meditator, Ive gotten into lucid dreaming. It took me about a month to get the hang of it. Now I've had this vision/dream. What does it mean and what do you think will happen next?

Second lucid dream around 11 a.m. Feeling of being in a very realistic daydream. The body hardly makes itself noticeable, nevertheless it pulls my spirit again and again back into the body/head. I hear street noises etc. My liver (?) makes itself noticeable. I slip into the shape of a cat and caress myself, sleep on my stomach. I take the liver and warm it up by a fire (actual relaxation, feeling of happiness). As a cat I roam the apartment, walk through the door, take the elevator, make jumps of over a hundred meters, finally jump back into my head. I start to meditate and open my 7 chakras. The energy of the astral body floating in the air connects with mine and 7 colours shine. Purifying, calming feeling in my own and the astral body. Total darkness and I create stars and moon, grass floor and I find myself in an idyllic binge with campfires and shadowy figures that remind me of gods and saints. God meets me on a throne. He wears a glowing crown, instead of a face I see the sunrise as if over Altdorf's painting of the battle of Issus as an explosion of colour (you actually see sun and moon). God asks me whether I want knowledge or satisfaction. I hesitate, but I choose knowledge. He shows me Jesus, Krsna, Mohammed and some other figures who are rising within me. My consciousness goes back into my head and I wade through the two hemispheres of my brain in a very deep spiritual silence. I receive satisfaction in the form of a complete distortion of reality during the immaginary intercourse with my girlfriend, she and I double and triple ourselves, my penis pierces her body, her and my anatomy merge. I feel sexual satisfaction. I masturbate and have an orgasm in less than a minute. I am drawn back to the dream world. I fly and see shapes. I have the impression that the first impression shows with things beyond my mind for a moment, but then my mind starts to fill it up with familiar things. I am riding on a boat and see my parents' house, above which a temple-like structure rises. Mentally I jump to the temple and see the next one on the hill above, on a nearby small mountain and then a higher one, both of which I know. The fifth temple is a high archetypal snow-covered mountain with a black temple on top. The sixth and seventh mountains are even more impressive, but the last one has no temple on the top. When I enter it, I am enveloped by a purple ray of consciousness that shoots mightily and powerfully into infinity. My heart beats faster. The beam feels impressively real. I try to take a step back to the 6th summit, but the heartbeat has taken me out of concentration and I return.

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Fringebay is now a proper bunker

I saw 8kun was dead and I panicked, and I saw an awful lot of synchs related to it, so I installed vichan on https://fringebay.com.

Of course the moment I finished the installation, 8kun came back for me.

It's a bunker. Use it or whatever.

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The Agnostic Guide to Working With Gods

How to Find and Worship Gods With No Strings, Religion, or Dogma attached

Autistic edition


This used to be a guide that was posted in response to an anon's brief response to another anon about worshipping gods. It was deleted for reasons I cannot comprehend as of this writing.

This guide is intended for initiate or semi-adept anons looking to learn how to interact with gods without the tangles of religion, dogma, or unneccesary garbage. If you don't know how to do basic psionic work, then you should look for that before you intend to make contact with paranormal entities.

But of course, feel free to read this and save this for another time.

Reaching Out To Divinity

>The first glance - finding who will choose you.

Look at popular culture, movies, music, video games, and mythology surrounding various deities. This also works for angels, or saints if you're affirming to abrahamic worship. The Symbols of gods are a surefire way of getting them to spot you, the next section details more on why the symbols of gods are important.

You'll know where your divine family resides when you find one that just seems really really fun to look up about.

>Making contact

The symbols and sigils of gods are going to be the main point of both invoking and evoking divinity. Examples of such sigils include the eye of horus, the indian yantras, and even norse runes have connections to gods.

Find the symbol, meditate on it, imagine using the symbol as a door to enter their realm, or invite them into you.


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How can i go to hell?

If I wanted to enter hell to see its landscape how could I do it? I just want to see what that dimension looks like. Can I teleport there?

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The 7 Hermetic Principles | #WitchBabyWednesdays

The 7 Hermetic Principles | #WitchBabyWednesdays

>I started off on Youtube in 2009 doing music videos just to get over my fear of singing in public. Since then Youtube has grown into a home for me to connect with & inspire my beloved followers.

>I've slayed my own dragons, healed myself of depression, overcome drug & alcohol addiction & survived the suicide of my daughter's father & now I am here having walked in the trenches with all of you to share every bit of wisdom that I've been blessed with along my journey.

>My driving force is the deep love that I have for all of you suffering, unseen but with a deep internal knowing of your own magical potential. I'm here to show you that magic.


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Questioning morality

What motivates satanists to worship satan? When they understand that christianity at large (and judaism/islam) consider satan to be evil.

Im trying to learn the motivations and drives of people who do rebellious acts and criminal idologies, so that I may better understand the moralistic ideology that enslaves us all.

If you follow a similiar ideology/religion/path, please feel free to contibute your motivations for following it, the more we understand what drives us, the better we understand where we are going and will end up.

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Destroying The NWO!

This thread is for destroying and attacking the NWO in anyway possible in minecraft. use magick, sigils, any means possible to do so. this thread is also for discussing the people and the tactics to use against them.

List of targets and plz add more:

The Rothschild family

Astor family

Bundy family

Freeman family

Reynolds Family

Russel Family

Kennedy Family

Onassis Family

Dupont Family

Li Family

Rockefeller Family

Dan Duyn Family

Extras : The zionists, the saudis elite, the technocrats Billgates,George Soros, The Royals, the royals actually run most of it. the queen of england, The world Health organizations, The UN, most officials in power. remember its a pyramid based on a need to know basis. getting bacteria is good for you, they want to sterilize the whole world and make us sick and retarded, dont take vaccines either.

best video


link to videos to watch, organized by me


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Good luck

[goddamn] This was a post not wanted to be made. Seriously.

I kind of figured it was coming. Different shit happening, odd but not directly peculiar shit. Just odd, like "wtf".

I give you nothing.

Life is joy, we are meant to be spontaneous.

Thanks, and good luck

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How many of you have reached the pinnacle of your path?

If not, what are the obstacles in your way?

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I think I found a purpose of ritualistic child abuse

What I'm about to share here is based on my limited research into local elite families. So, what got me into this is finding out that the richest man in my city has a log cabin on his private castle estate that contains children's chairs and tables inside and chairs and tables made for ritualistic intercourse complete with a wooden throne right outside on the terrace. At first, I didn't even dare to think about it, but naturally, eventually I started asking myself what's the fucking deal with this. And my first guess was a fuck you statement to the poorfags. A symbol of being above the common morality and law. My second guess was blackmail considering the owner's ties with local politicians and other powerful people. My third guess was black magic.

But after some research into the owner's family ties, here's a theory - it's an MKUltra-style trauma programming to manipulate their own offspring into arranged marriages for the purpose of securing family wealth.

What do I base this on, you may ask? Well let's just start with repeating the "le current year" meme. Arranged marriages are just so…1800s. So what are the chances of descendants of two richest families in my city marrying? I mean, these are the kids who traveled the world before 21, studied abroad, had a circle of hundreds of friends. So how can their families assure that they'll end up together? Get them while they're young. I suspect they only do this to the girls because every one of them looks a wannabe barbie with a face full of botox. So is it promise of a loyal wife/slave for the boys along with the inheritance of wealth and power? This is what I suspect.

By the way, these people are neither vampireish nor aristocratic. In fact their families lived mostly in the same place for centuries and they got rich by less than legal means during privatization in the 90s after the fall of communism.

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Overcoming Perversity

Something that has been a consistent theme in my life that I do not understand is the power of sexual energy.

I was raised Christian with this idea that sex is for the purpose of procreation, an act sacred to the man and woman. Of course as you get out into the world you start to realize that not many others think the same and the world is tainting beyond belief.

Unfortunately my mind was corrupted by pornography at a young age. I am 25 now and I am thankful I am not a kid in this time as the problem of children watching porn has only gotten worse. I did not realize the impact that having a sexuality that was warped like this was going to effect me as life progressed.

Most of my sexual encounters have been negative and riddled with guilt, even after I tried to move away from the line of thinking that would lead me to guilt, I still found myself having no desire for the encounters once I got up to them.

So much anxious feelings I had leading up to it, like I was fiening for it. I always felt better when I just indulged myself at home by myself. But that may just be me being used to it.

I have always wondered if there was some way to control the sexual energy, does it need another outlet? I had a sexual relationship with one woman that was my girlfriend and even then I found it barely under control.

Some people I notice like men who get into bizarre fetishs like traps go all the way sometimes and turn into these weird males larping as females. You know it is all linked to out of control sexual energy.

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Kali Yuga

Are we nearing the end of Kali Yuga?

If so, what does that mean for us? How should we prepare ourselves spiritually for the things to come? With the current state of the world, it's hard to imagine that the chaos and insanity could get much worse, but I believe that dark times await.

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Soul Survival And Race

Racial survival is tied to the survival of consciousness after a person passes away. After people die their memory is carried by the race they are a member of.For this reason the survival of consciousness after death is tied to the survival of their ethnic group, because their consciousness lives on in the genetic memory of that ethnic group.

Nazis called this "blood memory". Actively remembering people through monuments, movies, and stories, and images, helps to reproduce the physical and mental likeness of them in future generations. If you talk about a dead person it brings their spirit to you and also it gives them life.

feeding the dead attention helps to give their consciousness life within the afterworld.

Ancestor veneration was one of the most prevalent pagan religions. This is basically confucianism, but White people were basically practicing a White version of confucianism. Check out this Norse poem


And the Roman custom of Lares


The ancestors were the original guardian angels.

White people have no choice but be loyal to the white race because in a anti-white society, the other races have been encouraged to resent the memory of white people. So in order for white people to have their consciousness be honored in future generations, they have to preserve the existence of white people in future generations. Even if those white people don't venerate the ancestors, the memory of the ancestors will still live on in their blood.

White people are not being given the option of joining other ethnic groups because non-whites are encouraged to hate "dead white males", so the only suitable race for remembering white people is: the white race.

The ancients believed the spirits of the dead can influence the living vor good and bad, for this reason they would pray to the ancetsors for help with all manner of things including health and love, ghosts were believed to be able to influence the living.

The white race must be preserved in order to preserve the ghosts of the ancestors and in order to preserve the ghosts of those white people who have not yet died. Spiritual immortality is related to the survival of the race. The biological is the spiritual.

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What's the deal with ritualistic child abuse?

For a long time I was skeptical of such conspiracy theories but now that I've seen the evidence with my own two eyes, I wonder what exactly are the mechanisms at play from the occult perspective?

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My most recent sleep paralysis ex

This is extremely hard to put into words. But I will try my best. I “woke up,” I couldn’t move, I didn’t see a demon or hear scary sounds. Instead, I heard my voice, almost as if all of my voices, were rambling all a once. Even raspy versions of my voice, how I would sound as an old man. As if I could hear all of my voices I would have in my life all speaking over each other from past, present and future. I couldn’t make anything out, it was as if i was in a stadium or large full room and everyone was a version of me speaking at once. That is the best way I can describe what I had heard. As far as the visual hallucinations go, I was staring at myself nose to nose. It was a hallucination but it was me, sleeping. I was awake staring nose to nose at myself sleeping as I was hearing all of this. What does this mean? Why did I experience this? Has anyone else experienced anything like this?


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Jewish Spells Over America

The 1987 movie Spaceballs based on Star Wars had a character resembling Yoda who would say "May the Schwartz be with you". Schwartza is Yiddish for Black. So he was repeating an incantation to Americans which meant "May Black people be with you". The 1990's saw a huge increase in Black culture being promoted to Americans.


Jewish Curses


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Human Trafficker?

About 2-3 years ago it was winter. I was about 15-16 and my brother was 13. We're from the suburbs and never really visit the city. My mom had went shopping for things on her list, while my brother and I had ventured off to the video game area, so we could each pick out a video game of our choice with the gift cards we had gotten for Christmas. We hung out in the video game section for about 10-15 minutes. All was normal, but we noticed a man walking around, and it looked like he was looking for something. He looked at us and then approached us. He was a black man wearing a black and grey coat, a scarf and a beanie. I was surprised when he spoke to us. He asked us to to pick a color. Then he held up 3 markers, orange, pink and blue. I did know that what he was doing was weird, but I didn't really see it as scary. Now this was in the evening, about 8-9pm. I figured the best way to get him to leave us alone was to just pick a color, so I picked orange. He grabbed my arm, not aggressively, and drew a line on my left forearm, I'd say about 2-3in. My brother had picked blue and he did the same. Then the man asked, "Do you guys ever go near Barberton?" (a city near the Walmart) I had said "No we don't we're not from here." To which he said, "Come to Barberton sometime, I'll remember you guys." That was odd but we still didn't see it as scary. He then walked away from us and put the markers in his coat pocket. My brother and I grabbed the games we wanted, and went to find our mom. We never told her what had happened, because we didn't want to get in trouble, or lose our freedom to go places by ourselves. But we did try to look for, or find that same man, now that we had a parent with us. He was gone, I even asked some of the employees at the Walmart if they had saw the man. No luck. It seems he had fled the store almost immediately after our encounter. I don't understand what his motives were, and we haven't seen him since. Possible trafficker? Or just a strange man? The more I think about it, the more uneasy I feel.

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Non-Kike Magic

It seems like Kabbalah and all sorts of Hebrew garbage have infected a great deal of what is meant to be the Western magical tradition, thanks to Christcuckery. What are some tried and true magical traditions or systems that have no influence from (((them)))? Voodoo and various African traditions, as well as various Native American traditions and Eastern traditions come to mind. What European magical traditions, orders, or systems exist that don't use Kabbalah or other kinds of Jew magic? And what would be recommended reading on them?

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Esoteric Hitlerism, bannable esotericisms generally &c.

Hello frens. I am hoping to piece together a library for the purge. Could you point me in the direction of Thule / SS / Serrano / Devi dump or ideas for other things that might not survive a literature purge? Thank you very much.

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Parapsychology thread

Psi-kers, the day of reckoning is upon us. There is an abundance of conscious distress in the world right now, so much so that the sensors of the global consciousness project are giving off an astonishing p-value of 0.01. That's what I call ladies and gentlemen, statistically significant. Now if only we united our brains in a global hemi-sync at about 7HZ, and used advanced ESP then we could figure out whenever to put our money on calls or puts with TESLA stock.

The evidence that our Messiah Dean Radin presents us is pretty convincing. Parapsychology exists, and there are a countless amount of studies and experiments to prove it. But then you read some sceptic rebuttals and find out that none of the studies can be replicated, half of the studies were bullshit, and the other half got really insignificant results along with some inadequate statistical analysis which actually makes the effect not have a higher probability than pure chance. But then again, might something be there? Can anyone actually bend spoons? Are aliens real? Can I summon a succubus blowjob mistress on demand?

So fellow psiker, are we going calls or puts?

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What happens to suicides when they die?

Any chance it's anything good? Asking for a friend.

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Book of Lock and Key

It has been said, the book of the dead, none may read, for peril or strife, And yet all are written into the book of life. There is a third book you will find it is rarely kept in stock, But he that hath knowledge has touched in flesh the book of the key and the lock. In dreams some see the ninth gate, where I stood upon the dome of the rock, In olde lambeth was I, High above the quay that marries the loch, Where beyond the language and archaic symbols of old mythologies, Loki begins Ragnarok.

hubpages. com/politics/trailofdeceit

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Question Thread #41

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/5peEz FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Meguca: https://meguca.org/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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Elemental Magick

I've noticed something when meditating and vibrating with the elemental Tattvas- pic related. At the minimum, I find myself less afraid of said thing in the first place. Water and fire in particular have noticeable results, since at times I find myself irrationally afraid of either starting a wildfire or drowning.

What other resources are out there for learning and utilizing Magick of the Five Elements?

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Hail! The beast roars!

Fringewizard, your call has been received and is now answered.

It feelz like yearz but it hasn't been that long, has it? Regardless, the stars are aligning and I have been hard at work. I will excuse myself from my current persona, "Your Tyrant" and speak from the core of this self.

I, the self that I am now, am sick and fucking tired of seeing the ravages of the world befall my comrads and peers, those too wise and too crazy to even post on /x/ without a daily ban. I'm glad to be back, and glad /fringe/ has returned.

>but what's this about?


When I heard through my connections that a virus had been released from the wuhan lab, I knew we were almost out of time. I got my shit together, I sharpened my blade, and I learned how to code. TO CODE! One more checked off the polymath check list, good. But why? Cryptocurrency. The past several years, this has been my meal ticket, and this is how I'm going to fund all you little /fringe/wizards. This token is trading already on saturn.network. Funds are starting to flow in, and it's barely been released… in fact, half of the tokens are still ready to be distributed.

>wut dis scam

I'm not asking you to buy a damned thing. I'm giving this to YOU.

>what do you want

I want you to pursue the schemes you've always desired. I want you to seek out the sangraal. I want to fill the cauldren. I want to liberate the entrance to the inner earth. I want US to replace the idiots who are currently ruling the world.

SO I ASK YOU! Are you crazy enough to join me on this wild ride that never ends?

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June 21 2020 (6+2+1+2+0+2+0=13)

1. Solar Eclipse Confirmed

Duration - 38 minutes (8+3=11)

Saros - 137 (1+3+7=11)

Greatest Eclipse - 6:41 UTC (6+4+1=11)

Magnitude - 0.994 (9+9+4=22)

Catalog# - (SE5000) 9553 (9+5+5+3=22)

Max. width of band 21 km (13 mi)

2. 193 days left in the year. (1+9+3=13)

3. Conjunction between the Sun and Venus

4. Conjunction between the Sun and Mars

5. Square between the Moon and Saturn

6. Conjunction between the Moon and Uranus

7. Conjunction between Venus and Mars

8. Conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn

9. SQUARE between Saturn and Uranus

This is a 1,000 year event. The hidden masters will not let it go to waste. All rituals will be magnified 1000 fold.

This is a warning I got from one of my Mage Friends online. These riots and unrest are a means to generate enough negative energy world wide to fuel the deepstate's Black Magic rituals. Please counter with Prayer and White Magic. Evil must not prevail!

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Fringe /music/ IV

Previous /fringe/ Music Thread: http://archive.is/ZMwz1

You've never heard music like this.



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7th of july happening

I don't know where else could I post this anymore since 4chan archived my thread. It had already gotten 88 replies but I didn't see 'em at all. So I' m hoping this page could let my thread be! And let people analyze this thing. I wish my guess wasn't on point because it seems very much like kikes wanted to shut it down.

There are seven continents and seven deadly sins. And the people of 4chan are expecting for a happening that is supposed to take place 7th day of the 7th month. Could it be that (((they))) are planning on launching nuclear attacks to all seven continents…? One after another or perhaps simultaneously. (((They))) have emptied our pharmacies of iodine pills. Peasants like me haven't even been informed of any radiation threats. So isn't it convenient? Remember, the continent nuclear blast part is only speculation and theorizing. What do you good people of 8chan think about this? Seven is an important number for (((them))).

Good luck to you for days to come my national socialist comrades and the people who love their countries!

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Books written by the Pythagorean Illuminati (The God Series)

The Illuminati are not who you think they are. Most commonly, people think that the Illuminati are the rich elite controlling the world, but that is the lie the elites would want you to think.

The real Illuminati, the Pythagorean Illuminati, are a secret society of the top world’s intellectuals who are trying to overthrow the elitist Old-World Order.

They have written and published many books, under various pseudonyms, which breaks down and explains their philosophy and the Truth about the true nature of reality, and of existence itself. All reality is made of living, conscious, free-willed minds. Those minds are in fact mathematical entities (Leibnizian monads) described by Euler's identity equation, the God equation. All of existence is real living mathematics.

The God Series by Mike Hockney (pseudonym) is a series of books which explains the entire idea of a mathematical universe in detail and answers all the biggest questions in life.

"This is the introductory text of the "God Series" of books in which the Pythagorean Illuminati reveal, for the first time in the public domain, the "answer to everything".

Pythagoras provided a glimpse of the answer 2,500 years ago when he declared, "All things are numbers". The God series fully reveals what Pythagoras meant. Mathematics - built from numbers - is not an abstraction but is ontological: it actually exists. Numbers are real things. Specifically, they are the frequencies of energy waves. (Moreover, energy waves are simply sinusoidal waves: sines and cosines, meaning that the study of energy is the study of sinusoids). There are infinity energy waves, hence infinite numbers."

"The God series, starting with The God Game, reveals the astonishing power of ontological mathematics to account for everything, including things such as free will, irrationalism, emotion, consciousness and qualia, which seem to have no connection with mathematics.

Read the God series and you will become a convert to the world's only rational religion - Illuminism, the Pythagorean religion of mathematics that infallibly explains all things and guarantees everyone a soul that is not only eternal but also has the capacity to make each of us a true God."

On a personal level, stumbling upon and reading the God Series has changed how I see the world. I tend to be a very skeptical person, but I always had an interest in fringe topics and the occult. The 1st Hermetic Principle is “The Principle of Mentalism: The All is mind; The Universe is Mental”. I personally found it very hard conceptualise and accept the idea of idealism like that, being naturally a materialist like most skeptical people are. Reading the God Series, they provided so many logical and mathematical arguments for idealism, all that exists is Mind, that I had no other option but to logically accept idealism as the true nature of reality. Materialism seems so obviously wrong to me now.

Regardless if the Illuminati really exists or not, the God Series has expanded by perspectives like no other books have. I have learnt so much reading it, philosophy, physics, quantum mechanics (I made sure to fact check anything they said here, because I know people like to use quantum woo woo to justify stupid woo woo ideas), psychology, politics, history, magick, occult and all sorts of esoterica.

I’m sure everyone who loves anything /fringe/ would enjoy this book. This provisde a solid framework for magick occult ideas from the past based on logic and reason.

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7th of july happening

I don't know where else could I post this anymore since 4chan archived my thread. It had already gotten 88 replies but I didn't see 'em at all. So I' m hoping this page could let my thread be! And let people analyze this thing. I wish my guess wasn't on point because it seems very much like kikes wanted to shut it down.

There are seven continents and seven deadly sins. And the people of 4chan are expecting for a happening that is supposed to take place 7th day of the 7th month. Could it be that (((they))) are planning on launching nuclear attacks to all seven continents…? One after another or perhaps simultaneously. (((They))) have emptied our pharmacies of iodine pills. Peasants like me haven't even been informed of any radiation threats. So isn't it convenient? Remember, the continent nuclear blast part is only speculation and theorizing. What do you good people of 8chan think about this? Seven is an important number for (((them))).

Good luck to you for days to come my national socialist comrades and the people who love their countries!

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DMT Experiments

Thinking about getting DMT and finding some test subjects to take the DMT and hopefully accomplish something of occult merit with it. Perhaps DMT can be used to obtain genuine working knowledge of reality that can be applied in some constructive manner or to power a working. If I manage to get DMT and to find some people willing to take it what kind of experiments could I conduct that would be worth conducting?

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Transmuting the Dialectic

Have you yet realized what opportunity the present chaos in the Western world affords us? Namely those of us who understand the principles of propaganda, of meme magick, of social engineering and of thought form transmutation? I believe the time to act starts now, for those who lay the ground work capable of harnessing the energy of an inevitable reactionary force that will soon come into existence, indeed is coming into existence this very moment, shall be immortalized as Gods.

Do you know of what I speak? Let me give you a taste of what I offer. The Western Enlightenment was exoterically a secular and individualistic counter-reaction to Christianity, which consolidated and utilized the energy flows from the Protestant Reformation a century earlier. The Enlightenment largely rejected the dogmas of the Judeo-Christian world view, and stood in opposition to its slave moralisms. As you may know from history, the Enlightenment's forebearers were the chief occultists and alchemists of their day, and had many esoteric beliefs that we all find affinity with. But today, the Enlightenment is losing ground, succumbing to the forces of darkness spearheaded by the cult of Woke-insanity that predominates the present political zeitgeist. Like the Enlightenment, Woke religion or "Social Justice" is also secular movement, but it is primarily collectivist and slave-like in its nature. A secularized and materialistic version of the Judeo-Christian teachings, irrationality preaching the slave morality of equality, not in the after life, but in this one.

I predict that Woke-insanity will be a short lived phenomenon, at least on the time-scale of cultural movements, for its center cannot hold. However, it will leave in its wake a destroyed world and a directionless populace without compass that knows not what is truth, what is fact, or even what historically occurred a mere few decades in the past. A populace ready to be uplifted and reprogrammed by whomsoever possesses the knowledge and the will to do so.

Are you thinking of Albert Pike's letters to Mazzini? Good. Because even if they are a hoax, the situation as outlined in those letters appears to be approaching its climax. What comes next will be to the Enlightenment what Christianity is to Woke-insanity, only happening in reverse. It will be a theistic and spiritualistic form of the Scientific Enlightenment. Perhaps Lucifer is a fitting name for its chief deity after all.

Where will you stand in the fast approaching cosmic battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness? Where and how will you position yourself? How would you reshape the world as it shifts towards the light once more? And how does one create and surround himself a hardened group of reactionary warrior-priests capable of withstanding the ensuing wave of darkness before the battle is won?

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Where do I even start?

I want to learn more about chaos magick, in particular. I am deeply entrenched in the scientific side of the great mystery, though I've always been deep into philosophy, history, archetypal astrology and tarot (again, for the archetypes), very heavy into mythology, and the like.

I have done psychedelics. I've always seen the synchronicity around me. Inexplicable moments and forces have carried me through life and have lavished a protective, supportive warmth. I've never had to hold myself up when I believed. It was only when I sought to use force, when I sought to grasp the handful of sand more tightly, that it would slip through my fingers. I remember concentrating on it when I was very little… seeing view, and having the sensation of flying (what I now believe was some kind of a projection). I used to do it somewhat frequently, then I lost the ability to.

I'm heavily Neptunian. All 12th house, but in a mercurial sign. I am *supposed* to move in this direction, but… where to start? I'm a very science-minded person, pretty discerning, and honest with myself…. but I'm not closed.

I'm sure you guys get asked often, but If you're willing….spare me some wisdom, book ideas, and philosophies around spiritual topics? I'd love to start gathering my head, as I fear I'm losing touch with the mystery.

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Help me im trying to do an energy dimensional shift thing

I want to change dimensions. Plz help. I'll do anything as long as I change. I'm at your whim, your mercy.

Please help me please

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Stoping reincarnation

allright, anyone has any ideas about how to stop reincarnating? I heard at one time some talk on /x/ about time lords and stuff like that, manipulating people emotionally to come back on earth again, about them needing us to run the simulation, about not going into the light. Does anyone have any clue about this? It's not in any older esoteric lore as far as I know.

any ideas about stoping reincanation from The tibetan book of the dead or The egyptian book of the dead? I read the ancient egyptian priests talked of a place called Rosetau were souls would get immortality but it was dangerous to get there. Osiris's sarcophagus was there or something like that.

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USF-7 secret mission operation intercept

The footage you see resembles a fragment of a science fiction film showing the evacuation from a doomed planet, but this is not a film, this is a video from a camera installed on board the International Space Station. Yesterday, May 18, 2020, this camera recorded the mass evacuation of thousands of UFOs, which simultaneously launched from the surface of our planet and flew into outer space.

Full vid




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Justifying One's Interest In The Occult & Explaining Shit

Do we actually know why anything happens and is there any use at all in trying to argue with people about why stuff happens?

I know that mental influence is real and that objects in this universe all exhibit mental properties and that mental laws govern everything; that all is mental. Beyond that I cringe at myself trying to explain too much, again & again. I want to elaborate on what has already been taught and try to make people understand the principles of Hermeticism better but it seems to be an impossible task. You either fully grasp and understand the principles in their true significance, or you don't, and you go back to normie shit.

My best bet at making another human being appreciate what I am into is to practice theurgy for them (and never saying a single word to them about occultism beforehand), stunning their mind by producing the undeniable phenomena of occultism for them to witness and experience for themselves. However the people I've done this for have become no less enlightened (and rather have actually become even MORE annoying and problematic) and I am reminded again of old scriptures where ancient monks had this exact problem and were reprimanded by their teachers for showing off powers.

A normie exposed to theurgy tends to derp-out and start talking a lot of New Age bullshit and falling into thousands of other mental trappings that keep them away from full understanding and power. Lets not even get started on alchemy though, I've already got so panicked by the reactions of normies who think I should make them alchemical potions and give them gold, that I just went into SHUT IT DOWN mode and tried to do everything to get them off of the subject. I've been offered everywhere from $50 to about $5,000 dollars as well by normies attempting to bribe me to do things for them.

I would really like to try and justify and summarize what I believe and WHY I devote my life to philosophy and occultism but I feel myself cringing so many times as I try to do it for other people. If I stick to stating only the principles of occultism and leaving it to them to seek the proofs (through experience) then I will end up saying nothing wrong but I won't be convincing in the least either. I've tried telling people "this is what I've experienced and this is why I take it seriously" but then they need proof and then when they get proof they continue to be pests. Any kind of modality I might put forward (and we all know there are many and that they all work in practice, though they are nothing more than models of the actual truth) will never be adequate because each one depends on subjective tastes / preferences.

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Ether, the fifth element, is a substance more subtle than air. This means the ether is to air as the air is to the earth. When you gaze into the blackness of outer space you are observing the ether and this can attune your mind to the ether. The ether exists all around us. Physicist Sir Oliver Lodge wrote about scientific explanations of the ether.

SINCE THE ETHER PERMEATES ALL THINGS AND INTERCONNECTS ALL MINDS, IT IS THE ETHER THAT ALLOWS MAGIC RITUALS AND PRAYERS TO AFFECT REALITY, prayers and magic rituals create ripples in the ether and affect what we are focusing on.

The ether allows intuition to work. Intuition is receiving information directly by way of pure impressions by bringing our attention to something. If you close your eyes and think about outer space you may eventually experience thoughts come to your about outer space that provide you information about outer space, without having to perform a set of logical operations. If you look at someone you may have ideas come to you about that person, spontaneous ideas, that communicate you knowledge about that person, but you didn't have to perform logic to get that knowledge. Intuition is simply information coming to you spontaneously just by bringing your attention to something, and this happens because the ether allows this information to be transported by the fact it connects all things and the ether is a sort of information field and our minds are like antenna that can broadcast and receive etheric signals.

Sir Oliver Lodge provides a scientific basis for the existence of ether and he mentions isaac newton did an experiment to prove the existence of the ether. Below are links to his work.


The forgotten books version has print of a good size and can be found on amazon or gotten from the forgotten books website



ETHER: a material substance of a

more subtle kind than visible bodies, supposed

to exist in those parts of space which are ap-

parently empty."

Newton employs the term for the medium

which fills space — not only space which appears

to be empty, but space also which appears to be

full; for the luminiferous ether must undoubtedly

penetrate between the atoms — must exist in the

pores so to speak — of every transparent sub-

stance, else light could not travel through it."


Newton put two thermometers in glass containers. In one glass container he removed the air and in another glass container the air remained. He then increased the temperature in the room surrounding the containers and he found that, even though the thermometer in the container that had air in it became warmer sooner, both the thermometers were affected by the heat. So he concluded there was a substance less dense than air through which both heat and light travelled.

Ether was used to explain the substance that light travels through to reach the earth from a star. Just as waves in the water travel through water, so does light travel through ether.


So just as light travels through ether to reach earth: so too does the light of peoples consciousness travel through the ether and shine across the earth. And if we incline our consciousness towards good: we bestow a light of blessings, however we can also incline our mind towards cursing, and this results in a curse being broadcast from our consciousness towards that which we focus on.

PART 1/2

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Quantum mechanics and consciousness

Can we have a thread to discuss the implications of quantum mechanics? To begin with, some things which are widely accepted in the theory

>things can exist in superimposed states, in which they are neither one thing or the other, but the two at the same time

>the evolution of these superimposed states is deterministic and given as a solution of the Schrödinger equation, except…

>…if you try to measure something, in which case the wave function collapses the system presents to you as one definite state

>this gives rise to the "measurement problem", which is a hole in the theory that one could interpret as placing conscious beings apart from the physical reality

>the act of measuring can also change the past of a particle, even if you are observing a photon which has been traveling for billions of years before reaching you (see Wheeler's delayed choice experiment)

All this seems really odd to me, like it's pointing towards something transcendent about reality. And if that wasn't enough, one could argue: why do we ourselves always assume definite states? If other things require conscious entities to look at them in order to take a state, then each of us has to be constantly observed by an external consciousness in order to exist, which could be what people have always recognized as "God".

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Going Skyclad

Do any of you go skyclad? Does it make your work more potent? Are you worried about your pets coming up to you while trying to do a ritual skyclad? I know my dog has a very cold nose.

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Breaking a Materialist

Hi /fringe/,

I come to you with a simple question: What is the most direct way to experience something that will break my materialist view of reality once and for all? I want to experience something that my worldview says is impossible.

I do not want to use drugs, as I am seeking an experience that can be (at least theoretically) validated by an outside source. An example would be to evoke poltergeist activity.

Please let me know what I can do. I am open to any method other than drugs, providing the method is ethical and does not spiritually risk my loved ones.

Furthermore, would there be karmic baggage associated with attempting to carry out a procedure like using a ouija board as this poster suggested? >>119525

I will post results for anyone interested. If it is feasible to record results I will also do so, however I am aware of the supposed trickster nature such phenomenon that suggests recording devices may be useless or counterproductive.

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I've been thinking for a couple weeks now about how I can undermine my faith in Christianity and this is the best I can come up with, listed in order of importance for me:

1. The foreskins issue. The whole foreskins thing doesn't sound like the inspired word of God but the barbaric superstitions of a desert tribe. Most of the Bible lives up to the hype but the foreskins obsession then really undermines it all for me. I'm not sure how mutilating the dicks of your conquered slaves and your baby boys is a suitable way to represent a covenant between your people and God. Christ comes along later and speaks about the circumcision of the spirit but it seems like he (because he does claim to be the god of the old testament) pretty explicitly commanded the ancient Israelites to be circumcised of the flesh. Why didn't the God of the Bible just, right from the start, ask that they be circumcised of spirit? The story would read better if this was asked of the Israelites and they then ignored God and circumcised the flesh instead. However I'm pretty sure God asked that the flesh be circumcised and they obeyed.

2. Revelations. It barely fits with the rest of the Bible, it is commonly interpreted as having something to do with an event to unfold in linear time instead of an event to unfold in the life of every believer, and depending on how you interpret Revelations you can get wildly different gospel messages; and everyone I talk to seems to have a completely different interpretation of Revelations.

3. Genesis. Wasn't this story written down originally in hieroglyphs? It is really hard to understand. Not as hard as Revelations I think but still it has a bazillion different interpretations too, all of which are interesting, but none of which can be a solid foundation for me to stand upon.

4. The many names of God. Yes these are interpreted as like divine personalities, different facets of the one God, like in Hinduism where Trimurti is the supreme godhead and every other divinity is some facet of the One. However it appears to me that religion simply evolved out of Polytheism and they just conquered a lot of tribes and integrated their Gods and eventually developed the Monotheistic worldview. I have seen a talk from InspiringPhilosophy on youtube where it was argued that Monotheism predates Polytheism that was rather persuasive though.

5. Overall the Bible feels it's the history of the Jewish people. It doesn't feel like it's the inspired word of God but a work of man from which eternal truths and correct doctrines can be derived.

These are the parts of scripture that really breaks my mind:

1 Samuel 18:25

And Saul said, Thus shall ye say to David, The king desireth not any dowry, but an hundred foreskins of the Philistines, to be avenged of the king's enemies. But Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines.

2 Timothy 3:15-17

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Genesis 17:10-14

This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

There is another part of scripture also that bothers me but I'll continue about it in the next post.

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William James

The original and most effective wizard but completely overlooked by people who think psychology is mundane (it wasn't originally).

Post any William James books and audiobooks in this thread you can find. I'm planning on reviewing all his works again.

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RARE FIND-- The Cult Of The Black Cube

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>The Cult Of The Black Cube by Moros


From publisher:

>Feared, bedeviled and vilified but also venerated, adored and embraced, Saturn and his shadowy powers have strongly influenced the spiritual and magical life of cultures and individuals for millennia. Concentrating especially on His antinomian and anti-cosmic character, The Cult of The Black Cube is a seminal study on the occult essence and esoteric significance of Saturn in theory and practice. It is introduced by Germany’s (in)famous Frater U.:D.:, legendary magician and prominent member of the Fraternitas Saturni.

>This work is divided into three main sections:

>Part I examines the ambivalent role of Saturn in various religious and magical traditions around the world focusing especially on His Islamic, Classical and Indian cults. Fleshing out the common traits underlying Saturn’s global manifestations, Dr. Moros argues for a perennial cult of Saturn expressed in various cultural guises.

>Part II and III comprise the Grimoire of the Black Cube which provides a comprehensive armory of occult weaponry to initiate Saturnine contact and to establish an individual cultus of Saturn. Part II presents a thorough esoteric analysis of the Saturnine Cult and the nature of its initiatic path. Part III is devoted to the practical applications of Saturnine worship and magic.

>This tome is an indispensable work for any serious Saturnian occult initiate and researcher.

>The author Dr. Moros (pseudonym) was a scholar of religions and a devoted initiate of Saturn for 30 years. Sadly he passed away in early 2017 under mysterious circumstances. This book is his esoteric legacy.

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millennial CIA nigger tranny psyop

psst, hey you kids… wanna cringe?

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/Advaita Vedānta/

Time for an Advaita thread.

What is Advaita? It's just about the most based system of mysticism/metaphysics/esoterism ever


>from the 9th-8th century BC onwards all the way down to the early first millenium AD the Hindu Upanishads and many other texts like the Bhagavad-Gita were composed, all containing ideas that some describe as monism, idealism, neoplatonism, panentheism etc but nobody exactly agrees on what the meaning is

>All these different schools of Hindu philosophy and non-Hindu schools of thought (including Buddhism) largely emerge out of the context of the ideas contained in the Upanishads and the themes they discuss viz their metaphysics, cosmology, ontology, etc

>in the 8th century AD this child prodigy Shankara is born who becomes initiated as a sannyasin (religious ascetic) at like the age of 7 or 8 and by age 11 is writing massive commentaries explaining the true meaning of the Upanishads and other texts

>his commentaries simultaneously irrefutably establish the true consistent meaning of all the Hindu scriptures like the Gita and Upanishads and at the same time logically refuting every other school who claims to teach the truth like Vaisheshika, Yoga, Samkhya, Mimansa, Nyaya, Jainism and Buddhism, all in the same text; all while having top-tier Sanskrit prose

>single-handedly revives Hinduism and comes to be known as one of the greatest Hindu thinkers

>largely reaches the same conclusions about the unity of existence that Neoplatonism, Sufism, etc reach but uses ironclad logic to prove it through extensive arguments and dialectic

>refutes most of the Buddhist schools of his time, is credited with the near-vanishing of Buddhism from India, the Buddhists were never able to write a serious refutation to his ideas or Advaita, to this day you can't mention him on forums heavily populated by Buddhists without causing a bunch of autistic screeching (this is not to say all buddhism is bad though and some areas of later Mahayana philosophy come close to agreeing with Advaita)

>explains how to wake up to the realization that really God is the only thing that exists, and that you are God; once you study Advaita deeply you reach a new understanding of reality and acquire an immutable and all-encompassing bliss that remains with you at every moment

The best way to study him and Advaita is just to read through the English translations of his commentaries, but this requires you to read at least 2 or 3 books on Advaita and/or Hindu philosophy first to understand all the terminology in them. There are also some shorter Advaita texts that are easier to understand and don't require any preliminary to mostly understand, I'll link to pdfs and text webpages of some of them below. If people have any questions about Advaita I'll probably be able to answer them, I've spent much of the past few years reading through a bunch of Advaita literature.

https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html (this one is really good)



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The Philosopher vs The Sage

Pythagoras was the first philosopher. The term means "one who is trying to find out".

Prior to him, there were only sages. A sage is "one who knows".

The sage attains his knowledge directly. Direct knowledge is called "gnosis", which is achieved through direct mental contact with the thing itself.

The philosopher uses reason, symbolism, geometry, systems, etc. to explain the world and to convey knowledge to himself and to others. He conceptualizes, rationalizes, and understands. He is able to convince and to think clearly.

The sage however can only point the way concerning his kind of knowledge. He can say "find out for yourself" or "do this thing and you too will know as well". That is the limit of what he can share with others. You could describe the properties of red light to someone in various terms that will make sense of them but the direct experience of actually perceiving red light is another matter.

A philosopher can predict future events. A sage can know them. The philosopher can explain how he forms his predictions and what models he uses and what facts he takes into account. The sage simply dares to look into the future of a man and tell him what he is going to do.

Most of what I have done over the years is to philosophize. To understand, formalize, conceptualize, and clarify the mechanics of magick. I have focused on matters such as the nature of the self, the will, causality (superdeterminism), and so much more. All the time seeking to prove, rationalize, and explain.

This is all well and good. Philosophy is necessary to a certain stage of life and nothing to be scorned then. It becomes something to be grown out of however, after having attained clarity through that route, and having seen its end. Then to continue on in the path of philosophy is to stifle the path of gnosis.

This distinction has become abundantly clear to me. I have at my disposal nothing short of omniscience. I can make contact with that plane of mind in which thought is reality, and to think a thing is to weave together space and time. I have the soul of the world, the memory of all things, there at my disposal by a simple shift of awareness. I yearn all the time to share and to explain everything and to create the perfect philosophy but I must conquer this desire. Too much of my energy and my potential goes into this.

I hate to not explain a thing. I hate to know a thing for myself only. Yet I must come to terms with the ignorance of other beings whose paths I cross and their low desires, happy that they pursue lesser things, and so fill the world with their myriad roles and purposes. I asked a man recently how I might distinguish spirit apart and see trace its path through various minds and bodies. He simply told me to not worry about it, that other people aren't as conscious, and that it is only a matter of focusing in on the unique signature/vibration of that individual spirit. In other words we do it intuitively. I, being too much inclined to philosophy, would rather know how to arm functions to make its motions, than to be satisfied that it moves at my command and the details I need not work out. Yet in this matter of tracing the spirit I have been wanting so badly to discover and share those details.

I need to stop this tendency. I must be satisfied simply to know and to give no explanation. The sages never explained why they knew the things they did, they simply knew, and they were the most exalted of men, far greater than philosophers.

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Neoplatonism Trumps All

So i’ve spent time researching faiths and searching for truth and came to this conclusion

Islam = Debunked by the Gog and Magog story

Judaism = Debunked by fossils showing life existed longer than 6000 years

Christianity = *see Judaism*

Gnosticism = Bunch of Copied and Syncretized bollocks

New Age = Garbage, spiritual colonialism

Buddhism = Liberal cucks fetish

Taoism = Liberal cucks fetish

Hinduism = Sophisticated Liberal cucks fetish

Neopaganism = MMORPG

So in the end I’ve settled on Neoplatonism

Is there something I didn’t research, have you guys any opinions on Neoplatonism, let me know!

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Lucky Number Seven: we have less than a year

>In 2014, using occult numerology, Christine Lagarde sends a message to the elite.

>And that message is a date.

Skip to 3:30 to pass the ranting about the dumb burger sheeple.

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The Third Level

The conceptualization abstracted from cognitive process negates altruistic [infantilized] misidentitification of self as non predation type resulting in failed goal/purpose gain in an environment of limited energy over time.

The third level

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Phone phobia

Please help me get rid of my phobia of phone calls.

I need to make an important call but I just can't. Even the thought of it makes me nauseous.I am okay calling family members but when I have to make appointments or call strangers I just shut down.

When I even think about making the call I feel this weird block that I can not explain, almost like occult in nature (that's the reason I post here). Why do I feel this way? I don't know. Ya all got any tips to remove this block for real? Or just get rid of social phobia in general?

If you are wondering I have family and friends, they consider me easy going and friendly but they don't have any idea how nervous I am in some situations.

I am not joking, this is for real, I am afraid of phone calls and it makes my life miserable because I have to make some important calls.

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July to August

Will be the time the great American Civil War takes off.

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Why do I feel Humanity is not well?

There is a sickness in the mind. What is happening? What is being pushed onto us under the guise of modernization?

I threw up out of disgust upon hearing California depenalizing the purposeful spread of HIV/AIDS, instead of a felony, it's just a misdemeanor, no prison time.

I feel like I'm in a sci-fi horror movie. Why am I the only person in my life who can see how sick things are. I bring these things up and people are hostile to people who question these sick, demonic behaviors they are normalizing. Aids for everyone! Finally true equality! Progressive! Something has to snap soon.

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The Greenpill On The Evil Of Women

Greenpill me on the dark side of females and why they behave the way they do and how to defend yourself against it.

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Fringe Diet & Fitness Thread #3

Blake K's Greenpilled Fitness & Nutrition Library


Previous thread here; http://archive.is/tr1ew

What is fitness? Being fit means…

>Competency in biomotor abilities (strength, endurance, power, flexibility, balance, speed, agility, coordination) in relation to needs or goals

>Muscle size, body composition, and activity level that matches needs or goals, not societal definitions or pressures

>Mobile joints & relaxed muscles

>Natural spinal and body alignment fostered by strong bones

>Effortless nasal, diaphragmatic breathing

>Youthful respiratory quotient)

>Efficient digestion and elimination

>Healthy heart and good circulation (strong pulse and warm extremities, tip of nose)

>Rarely experience sickness

>Excellent sleep, libido, and fertility

>Relaxed yet focused mind

>Positive outlook

Fitness is an essential part of proper initiation. While bodybuilding is not necessary, (and bodybuilding can easily become an egoistic pursuit for "a beautiful body" and not good health!!), proper exercise connects us to our physical vessels, giving us more conscious control over them. And as the cliche points out, "A healthy mind in a healthy body"; a well oxygenated brain strengthens our consciousness, fends off mental haze and sluggishness and improves psychological functions such as memory.

A well-trained body gives a sensation of masculinity and connects us to our bodies from which we have alienated ourselves from… this "quest for maleness" can only be achieved through harsh discipleship and enforcing of the Will. In this understanding, physical exercise becomes also a mental operation which can be likened to Mental Alchemy - by exercising and using our magical abilities, we transform weakness into strength and emasculated men become again Men with a capital M.

So, exercise! Exercise!

Taste the ammonia in your mouth!

Feel the swelling of your veins!

Feel the blood run as petroleum fuel!

tldr; get /fit/, it improves your wizardry and you won't feel like emasculated.

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The Lineage of Jesus

I think that Joseph is Jesus's Earthly Father.

I brought this up in a theology group and was rather condemned for it so I want to search out this matter more as to arrive to a more definite conclusion.

I don't think "virgin" meant what it does now, back then.

Here are some random articles that talk about it:




http://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1908-09mysticchristianity.pdf (see chapter 2 "The Mystery of the Virgin Birth")

What is the truth about the lineage of Jesus and the manner in which he was born into this world?

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Why do almost all Tarot decks suck nigger cock?

It's unbelievable the pile of shit that one has to dig through, resulting in still finding nothing valuable.

I maintain that the only two interesting Tarot decks are Marseille (specifically, under Camoin-Jodorowsky's restoration) and Crowley's.

The first is undoubtedly a hyper-complex traditional book of meaning, yet always remaining consistent in its basic rules: left/right orientation, colours, aiming of the sights… most of which even Crowley failed to grasp.

If one wants to venture out of these safe grounds, he'll find countless of extremely low-effort decks, most likely traced on Rider-Waite's one, whose ubiquitous popularity is a clear sign of the Kali Yuga -as with its disgustingly explicit symbols and switching places of the Major Arcana to fit bizarre astological theories, it's clearly one of the worst decks out there.

/fringe/, there must be something I am blind to: which Deck do you personally use? Which ones do you recommend?

Do you use it for readings or just for visualization?

Did you remember to have it gifted to you and not buy it yourself?

How did you consecrate it before starting to use it?

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Occult Devices

II like occult devices and technology, but there doesnt seem to be very much of it. You all know of any others?

Also, I understand some see all tech as occult, this os obviously not what I mean.

#1 Gysin Dream Machine

#2 Scientology E-Meter

#3 Crystal Powered Time Machine

#4 Reichian Orgon Accumulator

#5 Chi Generator

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Q needs to see

Maybe before release time, I don’t know.


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What does /fringe/ think of the black cube?

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so trippy bro

reminder that the Hermetic literature is the Corpus Hermetica and the Divine Pyromander, not some 20th century new age spiritualist bullshit like the Kybalion.

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Every Sceptic Ever...

>why don't you prove magick for me

>why must I do the hardwork of figuring it out myself

>yes you, you personally, must prove magick to me; nevermind the shitloads of people mentioned in parapsychological research already who've already demonstrated all of the phenomena of magick

>no I won't read Sorcery by J. Finley Hurley, Science of Miracles by Max Freedom Long, or Magical Use of Thoughtforms by Dolores-Ashcroft-Nowicki

>I'm just going to ignore Wim Hof and that one guy who sets newspaper on fire with his chi who are both on youtube

>I'm just going to ignore Mirin Dajo, William James, Carl Jung, various famous scientists, famous mediums, etc. who are very well documented for what they do

>why, look at this stupid skeptic blog, which fails to actually disprove the accomplishments of genuine occultists by showing ways in which they produce a similar phenomena through trickery but at the same time completely fails to meet all of the requirements of the genuine phenomena

>hey you think that guy set the newspaper on fire with his chi? Well look at my bullshit, you just put these chemicals in here and crumple up the paper, and that's how it catches fire! nvm that the chemicals you're using produce a completely different colour flame and other effects that are totally different from when he used his chi

>heh, you think walking on hot coals is a miracle? look at me scamper across hot coals barely having contact with them for more than a few seconds, this clearly means the men who've been in far hotter piles of coals literally going through them slow or standing there and not getting hurt aren't legit… oh wait I can't reproduce this phenomena with my fedora bullshit at all

>*fedora sweat intensifies* stop showing me all these genuine examples of magick! I'm just going to ignore them all and assume it's a trick, and say science will explain it later! it's all just tricks/illusions/sleight-of-hand!!!

>fuck you, use up your vital energy and many hours of your day to personally prove shit to me

>heh, a video of you doing magick? I bet you just edited it!

>reeeee magick doesn't real, you're all bullshit occultists

>spoonfeed me

>no I won't read through these books I get too bored and can't complete them and I barely even think about what I read

>why won't someone do magick for me? I don't want to put in the effort.

>I deserve to have magick proven to me, even though you as a wizard probably meet hundreds of sceptics every day, and have probably intentionally or unintentionally prove it to those around you on many occasions, but the internet continues to supply and endless supply of people demanding your time, attention, and emotion who all feel they are special enough that they ought to have a demonstration of magick done for them as well

>No I don't live around you and have an intimate relationship with you, I'm just another poster on the internet, who doesn't observe your daily life and practices and the various phenomena that happen around you

>please divert from your own personal plans and struggles to help me, even though I am far less deserving of help or correspondence or any kind of attention, when lined up against people who actually have the self-motivation to properly research and perform magick for themselves and can stand as peers with you

>oh and lets not forget that I'm an immature, irresponsible, or simply potentially hostile person that would hurt you (like Protagonist) after learning everything

>no this form of proof won't do for me, and this one won't either, and… I can't even make up my mind anyways what would constitute proof for me!

*tips fedora*

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Sigil Magic

Here is a sigil about fulfilling ones goals.

Its a mixture of both discovering what one really wants and finding the path to that goal.

It should be on fire, while resting. Ignoring it would be best because it feeds on silence.

Also it likes to break things.

Thanks and good luck.

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I find that kratom helps me meditate and puts me in a headspace in which I feel full of energy. I like to combine it with caffeine for increased focus but sometimes it will make it hard to clear my head. Anyone else have any experience with kratom? Let's discuss any herbs/substances that help us in meditations, rituals and such.

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/rdg/ - Resource Dump General

Dump any and all /fringe/ resources you have,

This can include:

- Websites (forums and whatnot)

- Infographs

- PDFs or Ebooks

- Gdrive or Mega (or whatever else) Colections

- Videos and pictures

I know there's the a library in the sticky but its outdated, so bring in some fresh stuff fellas.

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Tips & Trix #1

Itt post anything you think might be useful for others.

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Renouncing Lust Thread V

Continuation of this thread: http://archive.is/XqeXn

1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread.

2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread.

3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged!

4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with.

Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism.

Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also.

Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.

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Do you guys know some Satanic Rituals?

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Dimensional Jumping Methods

Mirror Method

1. First things first, you're going to need a mirror. The bigger the mirror the better.

If you could theoretically walk through the mirror all the better.

Small mirrors will still work but for whatever reason, the bigger the better.

2. Best times to do this are at night. Most success happens at around 12-3, although you can still do it in the day time. Just harder.

3. Turn off all the lights, get rid of as much noise as possible, and sit facing the mirror.

Have a candle between the mirror and you.

Candle might or might not needed, but we started having a lot more success once the candle was involved.

Everything else around you should be dark.

4. Relax, clear your mind. BE POSITIVE HERE. If you're scared or think something is going to jump out at you, just stop and try again when you can relax.

Remember, that you in the reflection represents another you.

You can trust YOU. It's not another entity, it's not some demon, it's just YOU.

Remember that above all else!

5.Concentrate on your reflection. There is nothing else but you and the YOU in the mirror. A YOU from a different place a lot similar to your own.

Call out to that YOU, whether it is out loud or in your head.

Concentrate on switching places with that YOU.

It often helps if you can imagine poring as much emotion and energy as possible when imagining you're switching into that other dimension.

6. It takes awhile, and some get it faster than others, but if you "shifted" from your current universe, you should feel something.

Some of the signs for small shifts have been a brief feeling of movement, a moment of disorientation, or even your reflection blinking at you when you didn't blink.

Bigger shifts include your reflection moving on it's own or even the feeling of you literally moving into the side. The bigger the shift, the more you feel.

7. If you feel any signs, STOP! Take a few days to note any changes.

The signs can be small, like a scar on someone that has mysteriously disappeared or something being a different color.

The more you shift, the bigger the differences you see.

Other signs you may notice when the switch occurs; a feeling of euphoria, slight shivers for a few seconds, movement, reflection moving without you moving, feeling of falling, bursting of light across your vision, slight static shock.

8. Optional, but it works better if you have a "destination" in mind. For example, you can focus on you switching places with the YOU that has more money, or slightly better off in general. Harry did this and he had the most positive results.

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2 years ago I used chaos magick to get money, fame and pussy. It fucking worked. Beautifully. Now I’m stuck in this weird place. I’m way better than I was but I want more. A lot more.

Help me /Fringe/ to get more. A lot more.

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Replicating a "free energy" device

What is some of the most insane things out there that might be true? Isn't free energy actually one of them!!?? I mean. NO MORE OIL, NO MORE POLLUTION! Heaven on earth if you ask me! <3

Will anyone want to help fund my project of replicating this "free energy" device from a manual that I bought online? A 125 pages long instruction.

Thank you!!!


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here i am /fringe/

Belief is a powerful thing. Well, not your belief: your opinions couldn’t be less important. But there is someone, and there always has been someone, who can control the universe by his powers of belief. You see, at any given moment the universe is controlled by what one particular man believes. All things, right down to the laws of physics, are subject to instantaneous change as soon as one dies and another is chosen.

Amelia Earheart?

Disappeared when the new Believer couldn’t fathom a female aviator. Ever wonder why Newton’s seemingly obvious laws of motion took so long to come around? Well, for thousands of years all the Believer’s put their stock in Aristotle’s physics. Believers don’t even know about their powers, and it is flat out impossible to tell who is one.

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Cell Salts AKA Tissue Salts

12 Cell Salts AKA 12 Tissue Salts

What are Cell Salts?

Healthy cells amount to a healthy person. Dr. Schuessler found that the lack of one or more of these 12 minerals (often called tissue salts) put the body out of balance and into disease.” He developed them homeopathically, so they could be easily taken and assimilated. Many of the conditions that we experience today are due to the lack of particular minerals in our bodies.

These tissue salts provide harmonious cellular chemistry for optimal health, which is why they are more commonly known as cell salts. When our cells are deficient in minerals, we experience loss of energy, unclear thinking, or emotional discomfort. This is where cell salts shine. They quickly get minerals to our cells to help us regain or maintain our health. All bodily functions and conditions are influenced on a cellular level by these essential minerals; therefore they can help any condition or disease.

>Card, D. R. (2007), 12 Essential Minerals for Cellular Health, Chino Valley, AZ: KALINDI PRESS (Books Attached)

The mineral, or cell-salts, can also be prepared (and are prepared) in biochemic or homeopathic potency as fine as the trituration of Nature's laboratory in the physiology of plant growth. Then they are thoroughly mixed with sugar of milk and pressed into tablets ready to be taken internally to supply deficiencies in the human organism. A lack of the proper amount of these basic mineral salts (twelve in number) is the cause of all so-called disease.

>Carey, G. W., Zodiac and the Salts of Salvation (book Attached)

Cell Salt Foods and Their Astrological Correspondence

1. Potassium Phosphate - Aries, said to be good as a brain food helpful for nerve and brain imbalances. Foods containing this salt include Parsley, Beans, Beets, Carrots, Linseed Meal, Peanuts, Milk, Buttermilk, Cheese and Avocados.

>These people are brain workers, earnest, executive and determined-thus do they rapidly use up the brain vitalizers.

Aries Rules: The head, face, sinuses, brain [along with Gemini], and eyes, and the Thalamus


Kali Phos sharpens the memory. Weak memory & overuse of the brain. Great stress buster for students,

exams, and accountants’ i.e. mental occupations.

Brain fatigue – brain fag, prostration of mind. Combines well with ginkgo, gotu kola & lecithin (the

phosphorus from lecithin is what’s used to make Kali Phos)

Exam Funk, performance anxiety. (Picric Acid 30C for exam funk)

Mentally stressed and worn out from taking on too much

2. Sodium Sulphate - Taurus, said to be good in regulating the water supply in the body system, decreasing or increasing it as needed. Foods containing this salt include Cauliflower, Lettuce, Cabbage, Turnips, Radishes, Onions, Egg Yolks, Celery, Brussel Sprouts, Kohlrabi, and Milk.

>The sulphate of sodium, known to druggists as Nat. sulph., chemically corresponds to the physical and mental characteristics of those born in the Taurus month.

>Taurus is represented by the cerebellum, or lower brain, and neck. A deliciency in Natrium sulphate in the blood is always manifested by pains in the back of the head, sometimes extending down the spine, and then affecting the liver.

>The first cell-salt to become deficient in symptoms of disease in the Taurus native is Natrium sulphate.The chief office of Natrium sulphate is to eliminate an excess of water from the body.

Taurus Rules: Neck, throat, ears. and cerebellum


Liver support, waste removal.

Asthma – especially with yellow mucous.

Nausea, thrush.

Support for depression, gloom, fear.

3. Potassium Chloride - Gemini, said to be good for forming and distributing fibrin throughout the body, thereby moderating coagulation. When clogging occurs, it is associated with sinus and throat problems as well as fibrous growths. Foods containing this salt include Cheese, Egg Yolks, Radishes, Coconuts, Lentils, Carrots, Spinach, Asparagus, and Sauerkraut.

>The skin that covers the face contains the lines and angles that give expression, and thus differentiates one person from another: therefore the maker of fibrin has been designated as the birth salt of the Gemini native.

>When the molecules of Kali mur fall below the standard, the blood fibrin thickens, causing what is known as pleurisy, pneumonia, catarrh, diphtheria, etc. When the circulation fails to throw out the thickened fibrin via the glands or mucous membrane, it may stop the action of the heart. Embolus is a Latin word meaning little lump, or balls; therefore to die of embolus or "heart failure" generally means that the heart,s action was stopped by little lumps of fibrin clogging the auricles and ventricles of the heart.

Gemini Rules: The hands, arms, shoulders, chest, and lungs


Sinus infections. Clear mucous. Runny nose. Sore throats.

Anxiety and nervousness. Mental confusion.

Ear pressure/infection.

White, flaky dandruff.

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Let's get everyone's opinion on the recommended reading list

Here is the current recommended reading list that every neophyte is faced with when they get here:


>William W. Atkinson


>1. The Kybalion

>2. The Arcane Teachings

>3. The Arcane Formulas

>4. The Science of Breath Note: Contained within the 2013 Series Lessons book

>5. Mind Power: The Secret of Mental Magic

>6. Psychomancy

>7. Mental Influence

>8. 2013 a Series of Lessons (2014 edition sucks)

>9. Personal Power (of special importance is the Desire Power subsection of this book, which deals with how to use loosh)


>Franz Bardon


>10. Initiation Into Hermetics

>11. The Universal Master Key


>Robert Bruce


>12. Energy Work




>13. Key Concepts

>14. Reality Creation Redux

>15. Realm Dynamics - v0.2

>16. Synchronicity and Reality Manipulation.

etc… (https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html)

Did the recommended reading list and its book order work for you? How would you update it?

Which book did you get the most out of and which ones did nothing for you?

If a close friend of yours was a neophyte getting no results after several ritual attempts, and he asked you for help figuring this out, what would you tell him/her? (assuming you want them to succeed of course)

In your reply to this thread, please mention how advanced you are and perhaps give a few examples of successful rituals you made which effects clearly couldn't be coincidental. If you are a neophyte but still want to participate that's ok too, just remember to mention it in your reply.

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What you guys think about the Order of Nine Angles?

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Need new volunteers… apply in thread.

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/fringe/ misinformation

In this thread post all of the atrocious misinformation you've read on /fringe/ over the years…

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The Esoteric Secrets of Defecation

The average person spends at least 45 minutes a day defecating. That's 11 days per year, or 2.5 years of your lifetime wasted on inefficient defecation. This is time that can be freed up for personal improvement activities such as meditation. Furthermore, improper defecation leaves you vulnerable to spiritual mischief. In this thread I will uncover the secrets of defecation taught to generations of professional alcoyotes.

The first rule is no premature shitting. Just as we eat when we aren't really hungry, getting fat, we shit before we need to. You should only shit when you have a properly full colon and the need is urgent.

The second rule is to have proper log formation. This is achieved by adding enough fiber to your diet, but not so much that you are constipated. The goal is a uniform, dense log that slides out nice and smoothly without leaving much of a mess. Ideally it would leave next to no mess on your anus. Proper exercise is also crucial to get your guts moving so they can digest properly, as is a good diet not too high in fat.

The third rule is haste. When you shit, push it out firmly and aim to empty your colon completely in a few seconds. If there is any "remainder" (there shouldn't be if you followed the second rule) rock bath and forth on the toilet and/or lift up to bounce up and down a little.

The fourth rule is position. Proper colonical orientation is a force multiplier. The squatting position is ideal, install specialized or trough-style toilets if possible, though squatty potty is also great.

The fifth and final rule is total sanitation. Toilet paper won't do. Try a bidet, incorporating morning defecation with your shower to clean your anus, or in a pinch sit on a sink and clean your anus with soap.

You now know the secrets to master shitting on your way to enlightenment.

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Christianity is Eating My Soul Help

>be me

>get into Christianity

>start going to every church and theology group I can

>read boatloads of Christian books and also the KJV

>get deeper and deeper into it for months

>biggest key issue I come across in Christianity is salvation and grace

>learn more and more about salvation including that it's by faith and not by works

>seemed simple at first, but talking to Christians the whole matter became more and more convoluted, suspect that I'm probably already saved but Christians keep telling me I would know if I was saved and since I doubt I'm not

>absolutely frustrated about how to be saved

>jumbling all manner of stuff in my mind all the time, obsessing about it constantly

>fall into major depression because of this, can't sleep, lots of problems, last couple days been in a lot of pain from hunger and thirst and can't motivate myself to do anything about it

>am weaker and more sad than ever right now

>badly want to be saved but everything is sinful

>can't run away from sin and even though I stopped playing videogames and even if I were to just never go near my computer the painful, intense, loneliness and isolation that I have to endure hour by hour, day by day, will just be all the worse for not having even this as a form of human contact

>majorily confused and constantly frustrated

>can't do anything about my salvation, it's either going to happen or not

>have already tried bargaining with god and every other thing I can think of and nothing seems to work

>seem like I'm going to die from despair

>I feel like my soul is literally being eaten by Christianity because before this I felt closer to god, felt like I was on the right track, etc. and now I feel hopelessly fucked

>Christians also always discouraging me from reading anything that isn't the Bible or taking an interest in anything that isn't the Bible, even though I feel an intense desire always to look into the mind, into psychic powers, into all the things that make me feel and appreciate the reality of god and the majesty of his creation

>feel this constant mindfuck in my mind as I struggle to hold myself to the true god and not to let any thing less than god enter into my mind but I feel like the whole Jesus the Christ thing fucks it up

>Christ seems like an answer however concerning the triune nature of God

>the whole story of Christ seems plausible

>but Christians say I can't just worship God it's got to be all about Jesus

>I just want to worship God, The Holy Spirit, and not a man even though he was supposedly perfect

>besides I asked them if Jesus was a beautiful man and they quoted me a part in the Bible where it basically says he wasn't

>how can a perfect man not be beautiful

>doesn't that imply the human part of the trinity isn't as important

>the corpus Hermeticum speaks about a war of the two against the one, this is surely the mind and body vs the spirit

>only the spirit seems worthy of worship to me

>I can't even comprehend how the life of Jesus is anything other than "the way, the truth, and the life" like did his whole drama actually matter isn't salvation always open to us through god's grace which is demonstrated all the time and not just through the death of jesus?

>the whole Jesus thing just complicates everything so horribly for me when things used to be so simple just loving and worshipping God without all this Jesus stuff ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Please help me. This salvation thing is completely mindfucking me. I am at a point where I want to get medical help because the depression is too heavy on me. I want to ask for prescription drugs for sleep, probably chloral hydrate. I can't handle this whole Christian thing.

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Six Years

My conclusions:

1. Psychic abilities are real.

2. All psychic power is based on the fact all thoughts influence everything; other thoughts, your body, the world, etc.

3. Because of the very nature of every thought influence working itself upon a situation, psychic powers work best when used covertly or only in harmonious conditions with like-minded persons.

4. Different people, depending on their psychic makeup, can be useful or not in an operation.

5. The intensity of a thought makes it have a stronger effect. If your life or whatever you hold dear is on the line, if there is very much at stake, or you have cultivated the ability to will fervent and overwhelming desire it is easier and more natural for people to forget their limitations and use these powers.

6. Thoughtforms automate processes that otherwise would have to be bruteforced and can be used to build a psychic structure that becomes more reliable for higher level ops to be conducted.

7. You can insulate your mental structure by cutting off the "water element" but you will struggle to function psychically then. The water element is basically receptivity. Invoking "earth element" also stabilizes you making any likelihood of change slower. Used properly these elements can help you, in other situation they retard your growth.

8. It is possible to swing around extremely different mental dispositions and outlooks. Including extreme scepticism, whimsy, solid faith, intense self-doubting, etc. One day you can prove beyond all reasonable doubt the reality of these things, then another time it can feel like it never happened, even when you have solid and undeniable proof before you.

9. This can often happen by mental contact with persons whose mentality then infects you through the aforementioned water element. This can be because of an email exchange, a talk with a stranger or friend, having spent time posting in a thread, etc.

10. You have to learn to rest in the I AM, the self, and not be identified with body or mind. This will allow you to remain detached and to be able to shed off these mental afflictions. You will grow strong in spirit, so strong, that nothing will have a permanent hold over you and you will be absolutely free.

11. Egregores and "thought clouds" or concentrations of related mental influences can dominate a particular area in physicalspace or cyberspace or mentalspace. Simply being aware of it allows one to effectively control the masses on imageboards and such. Prolonged workings with these egregores can help to shut out enemy "wizards" who'd try to undermine the place or to dip into the energy of a place, gather it, and use it for ones own purposes.

12. Sigils can be unusually effective. Sigils can be anything. Graffiti, logos, combinations of letters, geometry, etc. I have drawn sigils on buildings and peoples vehicles and the effects, especially over a long period of time, were tremendous. If you want a place to burn down as by accident or to go through some other disaster for example, one can focus ones despair and other negativity into a sigil, draw it with paint or oil or in the dirt on the side of a vehicle, and let it be. No doubt you could also protect a place or bring good influences but the negative sort of energy has always been the more readily accessible for me.

13. Cleaning an area often and thoroughly is a great way to mix your soul into the surroundings.

14. The hardest thing in magick is trying to prove it to the masses in general. We can't even make everyone agree the Earth is a sphere, how can we prove anything at all to everyone? There are always doubters as well as people who just don't care are wilfully ignorant and have their interests elsewhere, and if you do want to prove yourself, you will have to pick out one person at a time to work very hard on, and never try to take on like 10 people who are all doubting you all at once unless you're a particularly bad ass wizard who has prepared through months being immersed only in the most faithful of books and intense meditation and has the backing of many other strong wizards and spirits who are subtlely helping empower you without anyone knowing just so you can pull off converting like 10 people all at once to the truth of "all is mind; the universe is mental".

15. If you're always immersed in the mental spheres of people whose thoughts are contrary to the variety needed for psychic phenomena to take place, you're going to live a very boring mundane life, imprisoned by your own doubts and that of others around you.

16. Psychic phenomena, although absolutely real and objectively verifiable between two or more persons, is pretty much doomed to be occulted forever; hidden in the shadows and the mysterious places. It can only take hold in little isolated pockets outside of the awareness of the mundane masses.

17. To really grow, you must choose to separate yourself from the mundane, and to keep silence. Any time you challenge someone, try to prove something, and thus attract the immediate doubts of others you will weaken. If you despite this weakening succeed, it will be entirely to their benefit, and not to yours. This is only worthy of doing if you find someone who is sincerely seeking and will walk this path with you, it's not worth it to do for people who will just be like "oh okay I see, so magick is real after all, wow" and then go on living their mundane life. Only initiate those who are worthy to receive it.

18. If you are like me, you won't listen, and you will try to prove magick is real for many years to people, and you will succeed with various persons, and you will see just how they profane the sacred science abusing it or forsaking it. Eventually you will get over this need to prove things and take better care instead to not attract injurious thought influence that you might grow in the silence.

To Know; To Will; To Dare; To Keep Silence.

These four pillars truly are the foundation upon which the initiate shall come to know all that is worthy of knowing.

"The lips of Wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding."

(The Kybalion)

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fimbria aeternam est


/fringe/ is back, unchained

Post whatever reality-altering magic you've been working in the hiatus

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Found this inserted and rather out of place in a wikipedia article...

The assertion that he had eyes of fire ( or smoldering coal like Buddha in some texts) is referring to ancient ( and still held) beliefs that the Genesis 1:27 people made prior to Adam and Eve or the un-gendered/ un-split persons ( as Isis/ Shosho or Anunaki) in all other creation myths; that humanoid deities made man. All are depicted with grey outside/ red heterochromia iridis and wool hair, not curls or straight. This indeed is a find-able race in genetics. The genes are all very rare, higher in lineage priest families and those with IQs over 189 familialy and root to a pre- neanderthal man.Neanderthals also had frizzy hair from some reports.The "gods" are the ones before the split ones. As with all other names for the gods: Dios,Netjeru, Bon they are pan Atlantic sailing metal trading peoples who's DNA roots in the United States. All the lineage priest families' DNA roots to R1 and a few other haplotypes all in the US pre-Siberian population. It does refer to Jesus being the image of God in Acts as well. ( keep you as the apple of my eye. A phrase God says to Jacob them David more than six times is a reference to this same eye color. Seraph a clan of Shela/Sela/Chela Judah means only ancient fire.

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Alternate Timelines

I'm curious if anyone perusing /fringe/ has any actual experience with the Mandela effect, and if so do you think its cause was by something you yourself did/believed?

I'm pretty sure I've altered my own timeline repeatedly since early childhood and continue to do so. Most of it seems to take place on an unconscious level but there always seems to be recollections of different outcomes.

not really, I just needed an excuse to post a sigil

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Existence in the public world

I'm trying to figure out what to do with my life and I feel lost. About to go crazy.

As my contract is about to finish and I analyse what should I do next, I keep arriving at the same point.

There are billions being thrown around left and right purposelessly and I am stuck here with a vision, which is a result of a diligent, honest work, with which I can't do anything with, becasue it is too abstract to commercialize in the next 7 years.

1. I cannot just stop working, becasue I need money to eat.

2. I cannot go to work, becasue the stiff hierarchic structure does not allow strive for your vision. If I am to be honest, I will just get fired.

3. I can continue my research, but academia is just a circlejerk of connections

4. I can find some foundation to work on it, but I need money.

5. Investors have money, but they don't care about anything beyond that.

6. There are various insitutional funding opportunities, but they hire morons who can barely interpret their guidelines, let alone see the horizon. Taxpayer money being thrown into the trash.

7. I am not sure if I shouldn't just destroy my notes, becasue this research can be misused in the future, but then I'm back at point 1. But the fact that my publication has been rejected 3rd time suggests maybe it shouldn't be published.

So, you've got money, vision and brain. All are needed, but there always one missing.

Does it make sense?

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Getting rid of etheric implants?

Does anyone know how to get rid of malicious implants placed in the astral body by people for whatever reason?

Picture unrelated.

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Intuition And Magick

The fact that babies are able to learn a language proves that intuition is a means of acquiring knowledge. Babies have no way of learning language through logic.

They simply listen to the sounds and end up understanding the meaning through pure intuition.

This is about politics.

The fact that intuition is real indicates something.

The reality of intuition indicates that a community shares a collective spirit. A common mentality.

All political reality is a reflection of this collective spirit.

Every person you communicate with is a neural receiver within the network that forms that collective spirit. Media hubs are nodes of this network.

The collective spirit can be directly affected by prayer alone because the ether around us is affected by prayers that reverberate on the collective human spirit that forms a cloud in the ether.

All the words you speak are a mental force that affects the political landscape, all the images you draw and all the arts you produce. All of this amounts to blessings and curses. We are supposed to bless our friends and family, and we are supposed to curse our enemies.

Political action means creating and imbibing fictitious representations of reality that reflect what we want to be because the images of these wishes are projected into the collective by being absorbed by one of us.

A blessing that the Jews speak for themselves is: "The Jews will live forever". Well, we should say, "my bloodline will live forever".

We should also say, "traitors will fail." Slogans Slogans are also prayers. In a lucid dream, it is even possible to commune with the collective spirit of our people and to access the collective memory.

The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali mentions that knowledge can be gained simply by shifting our attention to something, even in our imagination, and knowledge is transferred by intuition spontaneously. To intuit means to look at.

Why Prayer Works

Words affect the ether. The ether is the energy fields around us. In addition to this parts of the mind experience space differently allowing the mind to be connected with things far away. Light experiences space as shorter than a airplane does, since there are many wavelengths of energy within the brain there are parts of the mind that experience spaces as shorter. This explains why a persons fetch or spirit can bilocate to someone they are thinking about far away as was the case with the people Padre Pio prayed for as well as sometimes people have seen the spirit of someone who was thinking evil thoughts about them. Both spoken and written words affect the ether. It is important to pray everyday. And study scripture. The ether is the spirit realm and is part of the physical world just as steam is a another form of ice.

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Magicians And Ireland

Ireland has a habit of summoning magicians from within their genetic pool into incarnation if there is a need for the use of magick in order to counteract magick used against the Irish, but then according to the dream I had, the Irish then cull those magicians from the gene pool due to fearing their power, only to summon them again in the future if their services are needed. According to the dream though, the magician tribe can withstand the culling process and continue to exist as a reproducing segment of the population if they play their cards right.

Jews are a tribe of magicians, and so naturally magicians from other ethnic groups are being called into existence in order to preserve their ethnic group against the jewish subversion. Yet non-jewish ethnic groups have betrayed their magician classes in the past, and so the magician class may face their biggest struggle for survival from within the ethnic group whom they serve. Because in the past these ethnic groups have culled their magicians through ostracism, priestly celibacy, witchcraft accusations, and through the concept of magicians being old souls: which is done to push them out of normalcy. All attempts to make magicians pariahs from the herd.

Magicians are part of the herd though.

***Dream transcribed below:

I had a dream last night I was sitting with Kyle and Sinead upon some rocks on a hill, Sinead told me that every so often Ireland summons a tribe of priests into existence on earth from within its DNA, if there is a threat that needs to be dealt with that needs to be addressed with priestcraft(using words to bless or curse). But then the Irish tribe later eliminates this tribe of priests from reproduction because the priest tribe within the Irish community is viewed as a potential threat to the wider community due to their knowledge(especially knowledge of cursing). Yet the priest tribe can withstand the elimination process if they establish themselves as a cohesive unit and prevent the usual process of being eliminated by the tribe from the tribe, where they are cast aside only to be summoned later from within the gene pool if the tribe sees a need for them.

In other words the priest tribe within the Irish tribe can continue to exist on the planet as a tribe and become an established part of society and reproduce itself from generation to generation. The impression from the dream was that the usual process is the priest tribe is summoned from within the gene pool into the physical world only if there is a pressing need, only to be later cast aside, but that this usual process can be thwarted if the priest tribe is established as a cohesive unit.

If the word tribe is not liked, the word network can be used in its place.


Kyle and Sinead are the owners and operators of renegade broadcasting:


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Math General

All is number- Pythagoras

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Self-Determination is Greater Than God

Anybody who allows themselves to be controlled (in spiritual terms) by anything outside of themselves has committed a fault.

What is inside of us is greater than what is outside of us.

Our own will, and our ability to determine our own circumstances is greater than any conception of God. Even if God is real, if He is not doing the right thing then He should not receive any sort of place in our lives.

Do not be deceived, playing around with things greater than ourselves which we do not understand.

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Clown Pepe Meme Magic

I do not like the pepe meme. Always thought it was garbage. However I've recently noticed that the clown pepe, the latest iteration of the most powerful meme in present existence, the pepe, has a striking resemblance… to Lord English, the all-powerful time-bending main villain of Homestuck by Andrew Hussie. Lord English is an autistic alien humanoid reptile who is completely evil and was raised by an insane evil clown. He worse a rainbow scarf not unlike the rainbow outfit of Clown Pepe, as well as wore a bow tie and later overalls, like current variant Clown Pepes do.

I've always had a strong hunch Pepe as a meme at its heart is an evil meme, but this on top of existing parallels with Egyptien God of Darkness Kek in the Cult of Kek, is making me uneasy.

In short, I'm wagering Pepe is an evil meme and it needs to be stopped. It's too powerful, it's too evil, and it has too many fucked up connections that feel almost consciously chosen rather than coincidental.


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Spirit Perspective v.s. Human Perspective

For the Devil and all of those spirits out there who condemn humans and this and that - it is true that we are but mere mortals and cannot match the power of the spirits. It is true that most of us are without knowledge of the Spirit World, yet they have knowledge of us.

But perhaps their judgments and perspectives are distorted because just as we cannot understand them, perhaps they also cannot properly understand us?

It is said that Jesus walked among us as one of us, and took on our mortality and the weight thereof. Perhaps Satan and those voices of condemnation in the Spirit World are too quick to condemn humanity without a proper understanding.

This post was inspired by God Elohim talking to me in my prayers. I think He said something along the lines of, "Is it okay that the demons get "spacecraft" and their own Marvel Universe and you don't?" I was like, "sure, I'm sure I don't understand the existential reasons for this sort of stuff…it's not my way to judge the way the Spirit World was created."

Then I feel like God said, "Who do you think is jealous of others like humans receiving things from God?"

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Consciousness Immortality Theory Discussion

This thread is for discussing theories of how immortality potentially works for your consciousness, upon your brain/body death.

I am having a great deal of trouble finishing a beta framework for a new philosophy I have been working on and that's because I can't figure out the capstone -a logical explanation of immortality.

If immortality were to work for consciousness, then the consciousness would have to be transferred by some unknown mechanism to a safe harbor. I currently have theoretically concluded, at least for myself, that this harbor would be a Hivemind -a categorical boundary of collective consciousness which exists nebulously across multiple minds at once, coexisting along other Hiveminds which are formed around cultures, sexes, races, fandoms and so-on to the degree people collectively focus on said things. The latter notion of a Hivemind I believe I can argue in a scholarly setting -though via an uphill battle of intense philosophical argumentation. However, the transferal mechanism of individual consciousness to hivemind consciousness upon death, I simply cannot reason without ignorantly saying "it just happens." I need to know how consciousness gets transferred from the individual into the hivemind, or else I have no logical argument for immortality. And further, I need some form of logical argument that not merely work, but feels accurate to reality as to how the individual consciousness is safely transferred out of a person's body.

This is made further difficult by the vague definition of consciousness as "unified experience," the difficult to discern difference between consciousness and the electro-chemical reactions between neurons which produce/embody consciousness, and the interdisciplinary hard to pin-down nature of studying consciousness.

The transferal of consciousness from the individual mind to the Hivemind is imperative to forming a logical argument for immortality -without knowing what, how, and why such a transfer should, could, and would occur, there is no argument for immortality.

Thus, /fringe/, I leave it to you all to discuss your various theories on how the immortality of consciousness works, as well as why and how and what evidence/logic there is for this if any.


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Wu Wei

Wu Wei is the ideal of learning, doing, being; when one attains this to this state they accomplish very much with no effort. Remember also this; that for God there is no effort. All things are possible in him. So to be like God is not to struggle at all but to be in perfect harmony.


When your body is not aligned [形不正],
The inner power will not come.
When you are not tranquil within [中不靜],
Your mind will not be well ordered.
Align your body, assist the inner power [正形攝德],
Then it will gradually come on its own.

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Rhyming spells

I want to accumulate in this thread all the rules about what unconscious understands and what unconscious doesn't understand.

Post linguistic formulas from your traditions, from NLP, from psychology, anything you know about right wording.

For make it easier to compare let's imagine we all want to resurrect Lenin.

My try: "It Is my will Lenin not dead anymore" (here's I obviously point to the most famous rule that unconscious doesn't understand "not", "no" and things like that)

Ironically my linguistic english is pretty bad, bad i pretty hope you understand what I'm trying to communicate.

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Working With Unborn Souls

You can call upon the spirits of aborted babies, and invoke their aid in order to curse or bless people. They will appreciate the fact that someone is working to help materialize their existence.

Whether or not you think abortion should be legal, you can call upon the aborted unborn souls in order to curse the political left. That is if you wish to place a curse upon the left. Perhaps you are a leftist, if that is the case then this advice is not for you.

You can also make a doll and ask for the soul of an aborted baby to come and possess the doll, and by doing that you can give that aborted soul a life on this planet.

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Star Gate Academy

Welcome to the Star Gate Academy

>Developed and researched by the C.I.A.

So you decided to become a student of the star gate academy, see this post as an introduction and a warm welcome. The focus of the S.G.-Academy is a successful higher consciousness through the research documentation of the C.I.A.

To achieve this we will train out-of-body mechanics. Afterwards introducing tools, developed by the C.I.A. for example 'Remote viewing'. I try to get as many information into the OP to kickstart the training smoothly.


First session; introduction into the field of star gate; presented by the C.I.A:


>This need to be readed and fully understood

It might be helpful to get a little understanding about;

>double slit

>Quantum entanglement

>Planck distance; 1.616229(38)×10−35 m


Now you are ready. From here on out the pace of the process will Speedup, thanks to the C.I.A.'s investigation. Keep in mind, there will not a 100% success on your first try but still you will get some results. As more often the out-of-body task is done, as more successful you become. This will take one or two week/s. In this S.G.-Academy we will use the Hemi-Sync audio

>read "7. (Frequeny Following Response)" from the CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5 PDF again if not understood.

Here the audio file


as well a FLAC DL file



While the training is going on, let's take a bit time to look into the archive of the C.I.A. about the records of Star Gate. Learn from other Psychonauts who already dived into the other Dimension. Share your findings.


Is there anything else regarding the subject, share it.

Try to keep this discussion focused and do not get derailed. If you encounter any form of troll / shill or just a lost anon, keep the CoIntelPro in mind and how to engage a situation like that.

This might help: https://imgur.com/B4sTEUZ

As well, report shitpost or any form of trolling. As we already saw, CIA shills try their best to stop any kind of conversation about this topic.

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/blog post/

How you holdin' up, /fringe/?

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I feel like Eris is trying all the time to break through my barriers and get at me. A little thought centered upon Eris and she's coming through hard and fast like no other deity ever will. I want to get away from Eris but it's so fucking hard. I just want to get some shit sorted already so my life doesn't have to be a never end roller-coaster ride of unstoppable chaos but I can't. Eris is the only one that listens. Eris is the only who can force me to submit. Eris is the only power and authority in my life. Eris needs to give me a break but I can't make any connections to anything else.

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Occult tradition of original vampires - follow up thread

Archive link for old thread: http://web.archive.org/web/20180212212012/https://8ch.net/fringe/res/112718.html

Post your feedback in this thread. New posters are also welcome!

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C.I.A. ama

i am CIA ama

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Shadow doods

Hey /fring/os

I've been having a semi recurrent event right as I wake up, it happens every month or so, sometimes more frequently than that, sometimes it doesn't happen for half a year or so. I wake up in the middle of the night, stand up from bed and see a shadowy figure standing there, sometimes in my hallway leading to the rest of the apartment (last time I saw it right in my room). Whenever it happens, as I'm not fully conscious yet, I react stupidly, like I do in my dreams. I just scream and maybe throw a kick or punch or something.

It strikes me as odd that right after it happens, I'm not super scared or anything, just startled with my heart pounding full force. So I don't usually have any trouble going back to sleep.

How do I know whether this is the "shadow people" people keep bringing up, or simply hypnopompic hallucinations?

And how do I make it go away?

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The esoteric link between abortion and vaccines


You can't help but wonder, why do (((they))) care so much about abortion?


Abortion is used as a postmodern, surreptitious adaptation of atavistic rituals that require grown children to be sacrificed. By promoting legislation all over the world to legalize abortion, not only do they further their agenda to depopulate and replace whites, they also indirectly pay their due to Moloch without getting their hands dirty (at least not as often).

Now, what's wrong with vaccines?



Look at the dates. As an heuristic, I tend to regard anything censored by (((them))) as good and true.

So, what does it have to do with abortion?


Most government mandated vaccines are derived from aborted fetuses' cell lines. Why would they want to force us to inject vaccines for diseases with a low risk of mortality, made from cells derived from an aborted fetus and irrespective of our religious beliefs? There aren't any pro-life alternatives for many of these. Then it dawned on me. What if… they wanted to make you and your children complicit in ritualistic child sacrifice? Keep in mind, they used to drink the blood of their sacrifices. By incorporating cell lines derived from an aborted fetus into our bodies, we might be doing something similar. But if we were do that, what would happen to us on the esoteric, metaphysical level? Are we unknowingly entering into a pact with demonic entities? What happens to our souls?

Very, VERY powerful people believe in some sort of entities residing on a plane of existence that transcends physical reality and our five senses. You might not believe it, but they do. Don't you think they might know something you don't?

From personal experience, a friend of mine has reported while on a regressive hypnotic trance that there is a soul at the moment of conception. I've also seen an hypnosis video on YT about a broad who wanted to find out what happened to the souls of her own aborted babies. She bore witness to the abduction of the unborn souls by an entity whose head resembled that of a bull. That sounded eerily reminiscent to Baal.

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CIA Digging Thread

The CIA has declassified a lot of information on Project Gateway and Project Stargate and rather more recently published it online. This thread is dedicated to digging through that material and finding anything of interest.

Dig here: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/stargate

Some stuff of interest I have found so far:





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want to mix my /fringe/ with Christianity

>tfw want to be Christian

>tfw sometimes my magick ways kick back in

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Do you guys know some rituals that actually work? I don't care if satanic, occult or whatever.

Pic unrelated

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How To Astral Projection (and All Other Powers)

If you want to astral project then imagine yourself outside of your body. That is all that is required. This immediately places your awareness within a thoughtform on the mental planes. All the various techniques of astral projection that are described are just different ways to imagine this. You can sit down tonight and think up hundreds of different ways to imagine this and carry it out yourself, you don't need to go around asking people to give you examples like the rope technique and so on.

>but no it can't be that simple

It is that simple. There is no need to over-complicate this.

>but I can't imagine for shit

Then you need to develop your imagination. Make use of all the senses and imagine different things. Create thoughtforms and pay attention to how your emotions, intent, and beliefs change how these thoughtforms can operate. Use thoughtforms for EVERYTHING.

>but I want to remote view or remote influence people/places/situations in this world and timeline

Then you need to imagine that. Do this through the intention to be out of your body and viewing something within a given time and place. If your intention is to prove astral projection doesn't real or if you are plagued by doubts and negative emotions which make you feel it can't be done, you need to get over that.

>but I have no faith and I'm a cynical skeptic

Practice raja yoga and discover your real self and the powers of that real self. Seek out experiences that will prove to you the reality of perception of distant scenes and related occult phenomena. Study idealist philosophy and seek logical proofs and metaphysical explanations that make the reality of astral projection easy for you to accept. Convince all aspects of your mind from the intellect to the gut-feeling to the emotional and so on of the reality of what you can do when you put your will to it.

>bullshit occultist! bullshit occultist! bullshit occultist!

Be gone with you foul shitposter! Why you have taken it upon yourself to discourage everyone from the study of occultism? There is no harm in it and it prepares the way for the attainments.

The use of occult powers is really not that hard to understand when you break them all down to the basic constituents of what enables them to be utilized. The key to all powers is self-development, self-control or self-mastery, self-realization, and a strong imagination. You are the power that enables them. Transmute yourself and everything becomes possible for you. Raise or lower your consciousness to play the passive or active roles in relation to anything.

Everything else is filler; stuff to help you arrive at this truth. Guides for the imagination, metaphysical structures to organize your thinking, etc. Read everything you want but don't forget this.

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Crystals Experimentation

I was largely believed that most things esoteric were complete wastes of time. Entertaining perhaps, but little else. Then about a year ago I had many synchronicities - just one after another after another - that woke my mind up to the fact that I've been ignoring things my whole life. Since then, I've dived head-first into all these things, experimenting personally with claims I find interesting.

One of those interesting subjects is crystals. As a child, geology and mineralogy were subjects I greatly enjoyed, so when I happened upon info on "Vogel crystals," of course I bought a couple cheap Chinese-produced ones to test. If nothing else, I just got a couple pretty stones to display, right? I bought a small clear quartz Vogel and a medium-sized lab regrown citrine quartz.

I started skeptically, but quickly I found that these things have many secrets. I first followed an old video of Marcel Vogel, clearing and programming them. Afterward, I held one and pointed it at my hand and felt an invisible ripple wherever I pointed it at my opposite hand.

After a couple months of experimenting, here are the interesting experiences I've had with them:

- Temporary (several hours) relief of my wrist tendonitis when used on the area.

- When placed near my head as I sleep, with the male point facing my head, I have vivid dreams again. When I sleep without them, or with them away from my head, I sleep as normal.

- I once fell asleep with the citrine in my right hand. My phone was next to me, and at some point I put my other hand on it. My phone vibrated when I got a text, but at the same time, for the same duration, the citrine in my right hand also vibrated, and very strongly! I've tried to reproduce this but have had no luck.

- A day or two after getting the citrine, I was waving it around my hand, bored at the time. I absently thought "burn, burn" as I circled the palm of my hand. I then got distracted and put it away. The next day, I decided to try using it on the solar plexus chakra (citrine supposedly resonates there). I used it there, nothing really happened, and I went to work. An hour and a half in, and I had the absolute worst cramps of my life, and terrible gas as well. It was so bad I went home. On the way back, I saw a small, hemisphere-shaped granite stone. Being so much in pain, I figured maybe other stones could work too. I cleared it in a similar way as the Vogels, and used it around my stomach with soothing thoughts. Whether that stone did anything, idk, but the pain and all the symptoms disappeared within half an hour. I cleared that citrine three times to make sure.

For some reason, to me at least, the citrine has much more ability than the clear quartz. About 10x the effect. I've heard that the size shouldn't matter that much, so maybe it just resonates more with me, not sure.

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Fringe Fashion

ITT we share different fashions that a fringe wizard would wear

What do you wear on your nonethereal body?

I'll start off with this semi-casual mage gear. With this you can blend in with the mundanes while still be prepared for mage school training.

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If I Kill Myself, Will I Regret It?

I don't belong on this earth and am seriously contemplating suicide. I have been for many years (I'm 21) and basically as I grow older the thoughts are turning from an unconscious desire to be free from the suffering into a conscious realization of the absolute agony that the rest of my life will be. Basically all I have to look forward to is a life of prayer on my knees begging God to give me the strength to bear the weight of this miserable, stupid, dark world which I am forced to live in.

I don't believe in heaven or hell but I do believe in a many dimensional universe and life after physicality. However I know that I know nothing so I came here to get some perspective. Is suicide the right call?

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The Truth about America

The truth about America that we frequently fail to consider is that it is intrinsically a primeval, backwards caste society of spiritual darkness.

I am not sure which came first. Spiritual darkness or totalitarian militarism.

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Debunking New Agers / Wiccans / Retards


Seeing as this board is dead, lets gets a debunking New Agers / Wiccans / Retards thread here. If any of you have heard a really stupid claim or shoddy reasoning for something debunk the shit out of it in this thread.

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Summoning a Pipe

This is a specific sigil.

It's a summoning sigil.

For a pipe.

Because currently my tobacco pipe sucks. And my favorite pipe is burnt out.

So I want a new one. But I want one through summoning a pipe, not just to go to a store and buy one. Because this current [replacement] pipe sucks fucking balls. A good looking pipe doesn't necessarily mean it's a good smoking pipe.

So I made a sigil to get a good pipe. Grant Morrison writes entire comic books to get laid. I just want a pipe.

Look at my sigil. Be happy.

Then watch "Blade Runner".


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People appearing when eyes closed

Hello /fringe/

Don't normally browse this board and frank;y I don't know if this is >>>/x/ but I know I can't be the only one that experiences this, am I going crazy?

>close eyes

>see typical swirling colours

>a few days ago this started changing

>closing eyes now shows eerily accurate depictions of people

>they all seem to be dancing or talking

>they always turn around when I show up ie- close my eyes

>I can't recognize a single person

>I can't hear them but their mouths clearly are moving trying to say something

>the faces aren't blurry but fully fledged and detailed

>they always turn and smile or frown or laugh when they see me

>its really smokey, like there's a fog

>if I open my eyes in the dark their reflections/imprints follow me in the waking world

As a young adolescent I had a pretty bad depression with psychotic effects (voices/images) but its been many years since that, and I never experienced what I just retold during those times. Other weird stuff that has happened is that as a child (according to my parents and siblings) I could foretell who was calling (before caller-ID existed) or who was at the door. Note that by child I mean between the ages of 3-5. So am I fucking bonkers /fringe/ or anyone here have similar experiences

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Working with Demiurge

Hi all, I'm looking for some advice on working with archons, or the demiurge/physical master themselves. My understanding is that they are very powerful, although the price one may pay can be quite hefty. I'm in need of some powerful magic, something sigils, hoodoo, the goetia, and even some enochian evocations have not been enough for. Likewise, if you know if something especially powerful or effective, I'd love to hear it. I'm in quite the bind.

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L U C I D // D R E A M I N G

I'm determined to master lucid dreaming but it seems to be the one topic over the year's that I've never been able to find any concrete information on.

Can anyone share books, videos and anything else they've poured over in the past and found useful? Any advice for someone dedicated to the art but struggling to find a way to get started?

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powerful tulpa

Can we have this thread back online?


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Full pepe tarot card deck.

Full pepe tarot card deck.

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Fringe Girl

Fringe Girl Thread

ITT: Post art and discussion about the board mascot and possible egregore "Fringe Girl".

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Changing Timelines

I've been thinking about the act of changing timelines.

Assuming that subtle changes occur through simple decisions, doing something versus not doing something, it would seem like consciously changing something in one's environment would affect a subtle shift to a different timeline.

Acting/doing something spontaneous: Getting a different haircut, by flipping through a book at the barber or stylist and picking one at random.

Attach an intention to the process, some change in lifestyle, new interest, desire for learning.

Then observe the result.

My assumption is that this would become a both spontaneous and intuitive process towards shifting timelines.

This is all assuming the John Titor style of time exists, which I think it does.

I think sometimes the more extreme versions of timelines bleed over in the dream time. Both positive and negative. I've seen horror worlds, bleak and treacherous where that horror is normal everyday survival. "Just the way it is."

But more so I see places where our level of survival is extreme. Where money, debt, hatred, are unheard of. Different versions of people who are shocked at my animosity towards them. Where the entire life isn't struggle but just positive growth.

Anyway, a thought experiment and some rambling.

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The Devil REALLY wants me to kill myself.

Satan wants me to kill and hate myself according to at intuition. I may do it. I have depression, I'm alone, and I have no skills and I'm not remarkable in any positive way.

Demons like talking to me a lot and it's hard to tell which "voice" is my intuition or demons.

Satan is trying to take everything good away and make me miserable as fuck. He wants me to be afraid of myself and everyone else and he succeeded. He wants to shame me for my views and hide in my room until I die.

What should I do about this?

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A black guy made me black magic

So last year I met this guy from Senegal. He told me he is a rasta and that he is muslim, and we were friends of each other. He talked me about spirits and that we are surrounded by them I started talking with a spirit around that time. His family are a family of mages, at least his father. I have seen him surrounded by a dark aura with horns.

Okay so yesterday I ate some mushrooms and I started watching a black man and like he was trying to make me submit to him, and I saw the black who was my friend like laughing being bad and I remembered all the times I was with him that he was not a real friend and that he always had a bad intention in mind. He wants me to suffer that fucking piece of shit. The shrooms showed me.

Okay so I was under the influence of his magic and then I put a mantram of Kali to remove black magic and I was fine then. Original aryan magic is more powerful than the magic of blacks and you cant get harmed by them if you are on the protection of the aryan gods.

What can I do to fuck up this motherfucker? I would just kill him if but I would go to jail so I wont. I am waiting to see him for telling him he is a coward, he is paltry and a literal piece of shit.

He acted like a friend just to end up betraying me and trying to harm me. Thank god I believe in the true aryan religion and his wicked magic cant afect me.

Thanks Kali and Shiva and Hanuman and Wotan for your protection.

I was not racist in the way I respected and I admired every races, and I didnt mind blacks coming to my country, but I saw this is a spiritual conquest from the part of the blacks. They want to substitute our original aryan gods with their black spirits.

5 months ago he suddenly stopped talking with me for some reason, like he got angry at me at that time. Now I see he had made black magic to me and I want to punish the motherucker

He acted like he was my friend but all the time his intentions were bad, the shooms showed me.

What can I do to punish him?

What can I do for putting a real curse on him?

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KKK Wizardry (discussion)

Woohhh-aahhhhh Boooooooo!!!!!

hey /fringe/ what happened to the holiday flags like the 'ghost flag' and 'pumpkin flag'?? is that only during halloween? …or was that only on megamilk-chan?

what do you guys think of the KKK, were they legit at all? were they actually wizards? what was the "invisible empire of the knights of the Klu Klux Klan" all about?


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Protection from Demons...

I have a demon slowly approaching me. Its image in my mind is that of a spider crawling towards me.

In this thread, let's discuss how to protect against mind-parasites, demons, demonic forces and evil spirits and evilastral creatures….pls & thank you

I will start. I have heard an old gypsy spell being that if you acquire a rock with a hole in it, and hang it from your ceiling….this is to protect your home and ward off evil.

^I have not tried this "spell" myself but would like to try it.

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Propserity Gospel

The Prosperity Gospel is biblical. The "Christians" that want suffering and misery on Earth are bitter, jealous, covetousness, or just warped. It's true that the Bible is bigger than the Prosperity Gospel but there's nothing wrong with the preaching of Joel Osteen and anyone else who is optimistic and wants Christians to be blessed here on Earth and in Heaven. The idea you have to suffer horribly with disease, debts, and other afflictions your whole life until you die is nonsense. Those things are mainly from Satan not from God. God chastens his people but he doesn't let them pointlessly suffer and he is merciful. Also Jesus tells us to check our thoughts for a reason.

I am not convinced that people criticizing the Prosperity Gospel are right in their assertions.

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I Have Achieved Illusionation, the Better Illumination/Enlightenment - [redacted]

Illusionation is not enlightenment, and I'm going to tell you all this definitively: do not pursue enlightenment, it is equivalent to pursuing your own death. Likewise, DO NOT pursue raw illumination -rather, pursue something similar that is better for what you truly desire. To explain to you what I mean I must explain to you four concepts I have logically and categorically figured out and defined over time.

Enlightenment: To be enlightened is to see past the curtain at a cost you do not want to pay, an equivalent to the Faustian argument of trading your soul for a great power. It requires trading your free will for an all-powerful circumstantialness, meaning you get to be one with everything in an abstract vague sense, and achieve a greater subtle unified understanding of things, at the cost of no longer being a player in this game and losing your free will to absolute circumstantial tides of change in the universe. You come into a mystical contact with truth directly in a subtle abstract way, and in doing so destroy your own ability to not be directly influenced by that truth's agenda of sorts. For instance if our administrator of this particular universe made this universe to be built around something arbitrary like dark grey cats, you would forever have that at the core of who you are and have it permanently influencing all that you do, while your free will will be long gone by the time you finally come in contact with whatever arbitrary truths are governing this universal system. Enlightenment's pursuit throughout its teaching requires removing your sense of ego and desire, purifying yourself down to nothing more than a blank sheet of paper, and in doing so has you obsess with loving the unpainted canvas rather than enjoying the healthy pursuit of crafting yourself into a master piece. You trade your soul for truth, in other words. Don't pursue it. This is worse than being delusional -at least when delusional one has some iota of free will.

Illumination: To be illuminated is to know you are immortal with 100% certainty. It does not require throwing away your self in exchange for truth -but has a similar consequence of circumstantialness you also should not desire. To demonstrate this, let's ask a question: What would happen if everyone know upon their death, they would be immortal in some relatively desirable fashion? Answer: lots of suicides, lots of rampant doing whatever the fuck one wants, lots of overly-confident zealotous extremism, because everyone would be permanently influenced by this contact with the truth of their unendingness. And yes that is a theme illumination and enlightenment have in common: both have you eventually come in contact with a subtle abstract truth. Enlightenment lets you know the truth of how the universe as an abstract vague pattern intuitively functions, while killing your free will in the process and replacing it with that truth that happens to dictate this specific universe. Illumination has a less horrible, but comparably bad outcome as you are permanently going to be influenced by the truth that you will live beyond your body (provided you don't achieve enlightenment) -you don't want to be 100% certain of that beyond any iota of doubt in your mind. If you genuinely believed it, you would be unable to grasp the weight of not knowing you're immortal that is necessary to not becoming a total megalomaniacal apathetic douchebag. People literally cannot and SHOULD NOT know that truth with 100% certainty, it will ruin who they are and make them act just terribly. But even if you somehow kept yourself contrived in an ethical fashion, that wouldn't be good enough because once you know you're immortal, the cat's out of the bag and it will influence every decision you make. "Should I do this project? -nah I'm immortal it can wait five lifetimes" kinda mentality would be commonplace. Or alternatively "Should I kill 10,000 people because they believe in some stupid shit? fuck it they'll just respawn in some fashion anyway." If you genuinely know people are going to 'be okay' when killed, you become a fucking sociopathic psychopath when you really grasp the reality of that. Thus, illumination is a comparably bad idea and is essentially the opposite bad outcome of coming into contact with truth, which kind of makes enlightenment sort of make sense to a minute extent, because enlightenment likely has to extinguish your soul for this reason. In short: don't pursue absolute truth, you either become nothing or become evil.

(Part 1)

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Is there any intersection between programming and magick?

I'm someone who hasn't quite taken the greenpill, somewhere between mundane and neophyte. I see a lot of similarities between the two, using arcane texts to invoke a command on something is a huge parallel.

Most normies would consider programmers to be the wizards of the modern world. I'm in that boat for the most part, but as an aspiring programmer I've got to wonder if there is any way to channel the occult into my programs. Are there any books that discuss this at length? I've downloaded parts of the library and haven't seen anything that addresses this as a larger observation.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur Clarke

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Scared Christian

Christian here. I am scared to admit that I am convinced with the whole God=Saturn, Jesus=Satan=Prometheus thing. I want to learn more but I am scared of eternal damnation if I turn my back to God and start looking at other beliefs. Any ex-Christians here that has the same problem as me?

Also where do I start to find the truth?

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Have you taken the Buddhapill?

I write this to those of you who are still on the Chaos wheel of endless acquisition. Some day, you'll get tired of the game. You'll see that the cycle is by definition incapable of scratching the deep itch that you need attended to.

When that day comes, I just ask you to consider that the Buddha has the technology to alleviate your deep-seated dissatisfaction.

Good luck out there, frens.

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Initiation into Hermetics

Someone to ask me a question about the initial exercise of Initiation into Hermetics?

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Do you love Lain /fringe/?

The Cult of Lain is real, I'm not talking Tsuki project bullshit. There is a growing movement of Lainists around the world.

Close this world. Open the Next.

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Strange synchronizes involving the number three

Two nights before I had awoken abruptly and precisely at 3:33 AM

Day after was playing video games and had a stack of 3,333 of a single item in my inventory

This phenomena has been occurring for a few years now but never with such frequency. I had some dealings with 'Kek' and chaos magic when I started noticing these occurrences, and have distanced myself since, but the syncronicites continue!

What does this mean? Any with similar dealings? Please help a noob out!

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Jesus Christ - Evoking his Name

I'm not a religious person or a Christian, but I have spiritual proclivity and over a decade of experience. I've read that if you ever feel attacked by a malevolent entity, you can evoke the name of Jesus Christ they will recoil and go away.

I recently felt some kind of presence in my room attacking me and putting a feeling of weight on my chest and difficulty breathing while I was trying to sleep. My normal closed eye visuals of swirls were replaced by apparitions and some vague faces that looked demonic and threatening, plus an insecure general feeling of malaise. I said clearly and firmly in my mind "Jesus Christ please help me, in the name of Jesus Christ help me" and I instantly felt them recede.

I am partly skeptical because it could be placebo, and frankly this type of thinking seems like a feedback loop where the more you believe this works, the more these imagined "problems" manifest themselves. Like you are inviting the problem only to have a solution. With that said I can't help but feel like something about this is real and it's making me question if my more general spiritual beliefs are wrong and there is something to the story of Christ and maybe I am wrong.

Thoughts? Please don't flame me.

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Question Thread #40

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/bavK4 FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Meguca: https://meguca.org/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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The Soul Purpose

So, I've asked the universe for me set up so I can really get acquainted with, to truly understand, and set my path of having a career with my Soul Purpose. So many people go through life without understanding their soul purpose and wind up as a variant of a robot, with or without virginity.

So when did you finally meet and get acquainted with your own soul purpose/life destiny, (or however else you want to call it)? I ask, because I figured I'd start up discussion, and because I'm feeling a bit lost on my soul purpose- like I have an idea on what it is, but I really want to be autistically sure on it.

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/fringe/ used to be a cool a while back when Smiley was still running it a few years ago

these days it is a honeypot website with mods who are pushing agendas and who don't really exemplify the credibility and the Divine connection to be real occultists or bearers nor judges of true knowledge

a lot of 8chan appears to be a honeypot…just a lot of garbage… a whole lot of popery

/fringe/ is really only good for extreme noobs who are just trying to get their feet wet in an internet-occult scene so they can look at the cool graphics and read edgy posts and stuff

beware, practice caution…if you are serious about the occult and spirituality do not post here because there is likely to be tons of disinformation and social engineering and this type of faggotry here on this board

t. serious intellectual T.I. and serious occultists who makes high quality OC and provides all sorts of help, advice and substance in threads

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Foster's Home For Retards

Thoughtforms are basically "Imaginary Friends for Adults: Advanced, by Crowley" and you can't prove me wrong. You're just convincing yourself that your imaginary friend is "magic". You're just forced skitzos. Crowley thanks your for your loosh, manchildren.

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/lhg/- Left-Hand Path General

Left Hand Path General, for discussion of all things related to left-hand path practices.

The LHP can generally be defined as focusing more on empowering the individual practitioner, instead of seeking spiritual advancement completely from a higher power.

Some practices which could be considered to be of the left-hand path are Satanism and Luciferianism, however I may be leaving some out that I might not currently be aware of.

With seemingly not much mention of it, as well as the annoying christcunt strutting around, here's a thread dedicated to more "darker" magic.

What have you found when practicing anything from these paths? What originally drew you into more left-handed practices?

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the fullness of time

I made a video about synchronicity, time, and religion. The idea is to discover truth through projection onto symbols: disassembling the “self” to discover the sincerity of your own individuality. There will be more in the future (I’m already filming and animating for the second one), but this video in particular addresses time, Christianity and Hinduism, and the difficulties of being a truly sincere individual in the modern world.

Interestingly enough, there were a few synchronicities that took place following the publication of my video. In my video I reference Self-Immolation in front of the White House: two days later on the 28th, the Australian band King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard released a song called Self-Immolation. The next day on the 29th, a man passed away after setting himself on fire in front of the White House.

I hope that this video is of some sort of use to you, and that whatever you project onto it will help you understand the universe a little more, or at least give you some sort of aesthetic pleasure.


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Wisdom Keeper Snakes Message to You.

You the wise who hast traveled great distance both physical and mental.

Who hast explored shadow and light, Who has explored regions of this dimension few have traveled because fear sets them apart.

You are the chosen, the ones who feel deeply who cries strongly to release the bondage of many lines traveled up into you, that has chosen to set them free.

We are the guardian snakes of wisdom to assist you into the great abyss, we come fourth out of thine chest floating in front of you to guide you on a quest of inner exploration. We are the key holders, but you must first answer a riddle.

Here we walk the crossroads of life, as we glide up the sign post which arrows point Left and right.

Which does thine choose?

I choose my own path, I go forward through the illusion of the sign post, through the illusion of left and right, as I do the reality shatters and there is nothing but air beneath me as I walk forward not knowing where my feet will land, but having true faith they will land on solid footing.

Here I wait for another traveler, as to utilize our collective consciousness to create the path upon the illusory air so others may witness it.

In comes a fellow traveler and they see thine floating on air and they ask out loud. How are you floating? I am not I say, I am here on solid footing because my belief guides me into the knowing and unknowing.

They set foot into the air and fall, as they have not done the necessary work to transverse that understanding.

Next another traveler comes, but instead they choose the right path, Next another, but chooses the left path.

All the while the paths lead to cylindrical lessons always leading them to this crossroads, with us. The key holders, the wisdom keeper snakes.

They must pass the test with you. A new one approaches and has the same understanding and is now floating in the air along side you, You both look at each other and gaze forward, hands held because you know not what lies ahead however you know within deeper knowledge is ready to be gleaned.

And so you went on your way into the abyss with us as your guides and mentors, the Wisdom keeper Snakes.

We only test, to see thy resolution and drives.

We love you.

-The Water Magister

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Fasting / Detox / Cleansing

I am majorily fucked up from drugs and stress and accumulated toxins and various issues and I need to reset my body really badly now. What should I do to clean out my body completely inside and out? Drink hot distilled water and eat nothing for 4 days and nights and pray? What has worked for any of you that have tried anything like this?

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Redpilled Anime

I've seen a surprisingly large amount of redpilling in anime lately. Post ones you've seen.

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Strange Visions and Feelings about the future of the Human race.

I didnt know where else to post this because /pol/ would probably laugh at me and call me a shill.

So for 2 weeks now i am now pretty certain there will be a big event at the end of this year.

I have this strange sensation of dread and fear looming over me daily.

I see pain, fear, uncertainty, fire and death on a scale which has never been seen before.

Im not trying to fearmonger or make anyone afraid i just need to get this out of my system and is anyone else feeling or seeing this?

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Earth Recovery Magick

I want to counter the malicious energies that are directed at us and the Earth. I want to target specific places and direct energy there - Leylines, Earth grid, places where extreme weather occurs, where military conflicts are occurring are the places of interest and maybe, maybe places of Satanic Ritual Sacrifice. If I have the balls.

I started a thread on halfX asking for advice and trying to convince them to coordinate a group practice thing. Ever since I did that, some bad stuff started happening to me, nothing major, just unpleasant. My left knee got "overworked" or something. Anyway as I was searching the internet for any type of Earth healing ritual magick and was finding crumbs, an idea dawned on me that perhaps this information is suppressed and then the door slammed really hard which didn't happen before or after that day. Yes the window was open but still I consider it a synchronicity. It didn't slam before or after.

I tried to invent with my own ritual (something I have no experience in) and came up with chants that could accompany the ritual / meditation.

I'm also tyring to use numerology and pick specific words to make the chant more powerful. I'm using Pythagorean / simple Gematria. I'm not even sure which system to use. Some say the Chaldean is more accurate. IDK; if there's any experienced numerologists out there please advise.


Firstly, if you pronounce these words out loud you'll find that they sound really profound and powerful. I found some really positive things about number 10, and I liked the feminine / masculine balancing aspect.

And 181. Apparently it's an angelic number with good power of manifestation.

If we look at the initials "L E E" they add up to 22, which is "the Master Builder".

LOVE THE EARTH HEART = 191 = 11 sounds a hair weaker and is more of a mouthful, but the numerology of the words is probably a bit stronger. It shouldn't be a problem if it's long, as long as it works, right? I can't really interpret these things well enough, as mostly they're talked about on the internet in relation to names and looking at birthdays and things like that. I tried playing around with Latin but stopped at AMARE TERRA AETERNUM(=197 and initials = 22). It probably carries more weight because it's Latin. I don't know. There should probably be an 'ad' in there somewhere.

I'm thinking of making an altar which would include the astrological symbol of the earth - a cross within a circle (although I'm having some reservations because it reminds me a little bit of Saturn symbolism, idk) maybe a Christian Orthodox icon of Mary and Jesus and a printed location - coordinates, a picture of the place itself or a satellite image with a circle on the specific spot or something like that. Playing the Schumann resonance as background sounds like a good idea.

Now I'm not sure about any of this because I have no experience in these things. If you were me what would you change? Any advice is welcome. I really need it.

Thank you.

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"The Truth About Plato"

Stefan Molyneux did a video on Plato.

His arguments are basically:

>hurr higher realms can't exist

>Plato was gay (no really, he accuses him of being part of the ancient "gay community" over and over)

>ignores the definition of a philosopher king

>muh dicatorship/totalitarianism/fascism/communism

>lots of talk about Plato supposedly supporting taking children away from their parents and being owned by the state (not sure if he's full of shit or this was an actual thing by Plato)

>muh "rape lottery"

>Plato advocating censorship of the arts


I don't trust Molyneux's review on Plato at all it seems like a lot of horseshit he's pulling up from nowhere I'd like to see his sources.

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Lost of faith

Anons, how to recover my faith?

I'm a brazilian, born in a christian family, like most of brazilians. I left religion when I was about 17~18 yo. I become an atheist, but not a trully one. I could never refuse 100% the existence of God or some superior force. Now i'm 32 yo and I miss my belief, but im so "rational" to give thrust to something. I have tried many "options" now. Protestants, Umbanda, Kardecism, but cant find anything that thouch my soul or my heart.

Any suggestions?

Sorry for my poor english, i'm improving it.

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Natural Philosophy

I have once read a quote from the Marxists of China and from Mao Tse Tung, that "materialism" explains the reality of the Universe.

If this is so, we might jump to the conclusion that "Natural Philosophy" explains that reality, as Westerners may have believed in times past.

What does /fringe/ think is a pretty dacent introduction to Natural Philosophy? Like the old school natural philosophy?

I think others have said the best introduction would be Aristotle, or even earlier philosophies on such subjects from Greece.

Maybe Thales?

ty /fringe/

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Alright, I think I'm done

Had a good run lads but I can't really live anymore, only thing stopping me from killing myself are relatives I don't wanna hurt. Is there any kind of magick that can actually drastically change my reality? Something massively different like make me appear in a completely different dimension/drastically change my body/reverse time? Something like sigils or other simple methods like this for manifesting small changes won't ever be enough to fix my problems. I tried everything else by the way so no need to lecture on psychology/philosophy in this thread. You can realise the illusion/matrix of the material world experientially and still prefer to not live because of the unfixable predicament you're in. If there is truly some way to bring about changes as massive as I have outlined then I would put all my time into the study of it really. Thanks in advance brothers.

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Not an /x/ user, but here to make an announcement.


<This board supports paranormal discussion when it clearly shouldn't

>there is no /x/ raid if the board enables skitzos and shuns actual green-pillers

<Fringe admins are mentally ill and are open about it (here's looking at you [redacted])

>Fringe is not a board for Occult discussion, but instead a hotbed for charlatans, narcissists, psychopaths, and skitzos

<Board mods will forever enable the menace known as [redacted], because mods are (as mentioned) mentally ill

>/occult/ is no better because the mods are pretty much not active

Exodus from this place or just monitor it. Read an occult book written before 1980. Practice various meditation forms and the art of controlling your thoughts and impulses. And don't initiate yourself into chaos magic until you understand the cosmology of the roots, which lies in the hermetic or eastern arts and sciences. Don't let the degenerates here warp your mind. They serve their own interests, spin lies, and hope for "loosh". Which is just a fancy way of being a useless troll who can't even bear fruit for themselves.

I wish you all luck. All others can burn in mental agony, as they already are. Misery loves company.

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Have some questions about Angelic Rituals

Hey folks! I have some questions and this place might be the one I've been looking for (this is actually my second time opening this domain). I've done some research over angles and their power, I have to say I feel quite attracted to angelic magic even though I've never done any ritual nor something similar. My first question is: Can you give me some heads up in where to look for more info and posibly even a link to an Angelic Grimoire? And that leads to my second question being: Do I have to do or use some protection rituals before starting an angelic invocation?

I think that would be all for now, lads. Thank you and good night.

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Self-improvement rabbit hole and the quest for knowledge and mastery

So I ended up here, /fringe/.

From /pol/, through /fit/, to abandoning halfchan altogether, and finding this board while looking for books.

I am looking for knowledge. I want to reach my highest potential, physically, mentally and spiritually.

I've stopped using social media, playing videogames, masturbating, eating anything outside of my strict diet. I started exercising, reading a lot (theory), sleeping on the floor, I use a fluoride filter for water, stopped drinking caffeine, alcohol, any other drugs. And I've ran out of ideas. Currently I'm beginning to meditate and trying out the exercises I found in "Forbidden Parapsychology", which was recommended in one of the threads here.

So, I'm here to ask for book recommendations, practices I can add to my routine, anything that can improve my physical, mental and spiritual health. I just begun my quest for knowledge.

My current booklist is:

>Prometheus Rising

>Quantum Psychology

>Works of Evola and Guenon

>The Will by Atkinson

>Liber Null

>How to Know Higher Worlds by Steiner

>The Kybalion

>Angel Tech by Antero Alli

>The Art of True Healing by Israel Regardie

>Lazy Man's Guide to Relaxation

>The Secret Teachings of All Ages

>works of Gurdjieff, Collin and Ouspensky

>Kali Kaula by Jan Fries

>Science of Breath

>Futhark, A Handbook of Rune Magic

>The Gnostic Bible

>Works of Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano

Anything worth adding/removing from the list? It's obviously chaotic, as I'm just a beginner.

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uses of magic

i'm just an bold ignorant but before i begin my journey with this topic, i need to know

what is magic (and different types of magic) used for?

can they make IRL changes like making me taller (i'm not going to do this, is just an example) or just psychological and "out of this world" experiences?

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I want to keep this short and simple.

I have recently grasped the fundamentals of astrology. Now i am providing you with the opportunity to have your chart read for FREE (note that i am not a professional astrologer but i know shit). Wanted to get more experience reading birth charts, so it's a win-win for both of us. You can either post the chart in the thread or you can send it over at 1062@tutanota.com. The chart has to be western tropical, you can get one here: astro.com

If you want to get into astrology, i recommend reading "The Only Way to Learn Astrology: Basic Principles, Vol 1" to get into the basics. There is also a 2nd and a 3rd volume, which i was unable to find. I've found plenty of youtube channels which provide some useful info too.

This thread will also be dedicated to any stuff concerning astrology, tips, books, different systems etc.

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Meditational Masturbation

I found a way to masturbate (I guess, though the word doesn't really apply) and reach orgasm purely through thought. I found it while following one of those astral projection infographs. The procedure I follow is to lay in bed as if to sleep and concentrate. I eventually reach a state of concentration which I cannot really describe, though somewhat akin to the "middle-state" of astral projectors. Then, I bring to my mind lewd images (images not in the common sense, more like I visualize myself having sex). It is really strong, to the point I can somewhat "actually" feel it in the benis. I feel a kind of "energy" (I guess) coming from my body and concentrating in the lower parts (perhaps in sort of "waves") and eventually the penis, reaching the head there being when I reach orgasm. Orgasm itself is quite powerful.

Now I have various questions about this. What is it that I have stumbled upon, what it deals with, is it beneficial, and all sort of information about it. I try to refrain from it but sometimes lust gets the better from me. For further unformation I stopped mundane masturbation about four months ago.

On a footnote, I could use that same state of meditation to remove a pain I had. It wasn't anything serious, but still.

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curing gender dysphoria with knowledge of the past and hope for something besides myself

I cured my gender dysphoria in Jesus and reading about occult and secret societies.

It made me realize I have a higher purpse than the genetics of my jaw. Like there a spiritual war going on right now and I am willing to die for it. This is the cure for all ailments…the love of others.

Also they finally took a picture of the first black hole. Literally God just looking at his creations. Literally just God wondering if we have been good little boys and girls. Too bad we've all sinned, we've all been BAD very bad boys and girls all of us. If we don't repent we're going ot suffer all of us! you think life is hell,,,well hell is HELL. Jesus save us.

I wonder why Jesus looked on us today. Scary

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Julius Evola

How familiar is /fringe/ with the works and occult philosophies of the philosopher Julius Evola?

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Herr Montalk - Synchronicity: The Meaning and Quantum Origins of Seven Types of Synchronicities


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We should explore psychic warfare to use against the enemies of our people, and in particular this psychic warfare, or telepathic warfare should be used against the jews. The jews have used psychic warfare against gentiles in the form of praying against gentiles. See this psalm, psalm 109


Psalm 109 is black magic, we should be cursing the jews every day. Pray "God curse the jews" and say this 9 times a day. To repeat something three times is a charm, and three times three is an incantation, a chant. 9 is sacred because it takes 9 months/moons for a baby to be born.

Please DON'T sacrifice animals or anything like that, doing stuff like that is not cool. You can do black magic rituals without that. Any sort of praying or chanting against your enemies, calling down th curses of God or Mars upon your enemies. You can focus your third eye upon your foe and imagine them consumed by a psychic flame as a means of cursing them.

We should start using black magic against the Jews.


Stargate Project was the 1991 code name for a secret U.S. Army unit established in 1978 at Fort Meade, Maryland, by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and SRI International (a California contractor) to investigate the potential for psychic phenomena in military and domestic intelligence applications.


According to author Gordon Thomas's 2007 book Secrets and Lies the CIA's Operation Often was also initiated by the chief of the CIA's Technical Services Branch, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, to "explore the world of black magic"


Please repost these ideas and spread the word that we need to use black magic against the jews. Psychic warfare


This is a book on Black magick. That's a free pdf but its also on amazon.

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Don't fall for it

0 is not a number. 0 is not nothing. 0 is something. 0 is completeness.

> -10 = missing one cycle

>10 = one cycle extra

>0 = nothing missing

>0 = nothing extra

>0 = completeness

>0 = without need

Do not get this confused with the ouroboros "the snake eating its own tail"

It is:

>Always hungry

>Always eating

>Never full

It is:

>Always hurt

>Always healing

>Never healed

It is:

>Always growing

>Always shrinking

>Never complete

Zero is NOT ouroboros.

ouroboros is trying to impersonate zero.

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Epyc Wynn's Objective Occult Findings

I am using the word scholarly in this title solely to differentiate myself from ungrounded ridiculous posts of this board, as opposed to using it in the strict sense of following some formal format or scientific method.

I am Epyc Wynn, and the following are findings I have discovered through a mindset of absolute open-mindedness, and absolute skepticism over my years on the /fringe/ board.

The occult is a mountain of delusional lies with grains of enlightened truth. Of that truth, most of it is obvious information that wouldn't even be considered occult by the common person. Much of the truth in occult knowledge is just self-help advice, helpful generalizations and rules of thumb, and practicing how to use your imagination to use imaginary worlds/beings to your advantage.

Since everyone loves talking about how the Kybalion is the bedrock of all occult understanding, let me normiesplain the Kybalion to you via this run-on sentence: it's just 7 generalizations/rules of thumb which are as follows: everything is imagined, what happens at the lower levels of any structure corresponds to what happens at the higher levels and vice versa, everything is always moving and being still is an illusion, everything comes in pairs of opposites which are identical in nature but have a degree of difference between them and this means all truths are half-truths and paradoxes are always reconcilable, all things whether they're ideas or the universe or civilizations move with a rhythm of rising and falling or in and out or left and right and the how far they move in one direction dictates how far they have or will move in the other direction, every cause has effect and vice versa and this is known as law and nothing escapes law no matter how low or high it is in a hierarchy and chance is just an unrecognized product of law, and finally gender is in everything and everything has its masculine and feminine principles.

tl;dr Kybalion is just saying everything embodies an imaginary hierarchy of constantly moving pairs of imaginary information known as half-truths that follow a balanced rhythmic pattern that always follows cause and effect and always has elements of masculinity/femininity. This seems to hold up and make sense at face value though it cannot be proven or disproven. However, these are just useful generalizations on how to perceive the universe that don't actually result in magical prowess.

Also the tl;dr on Wicca is doing things with strong emotional intention is magic and thus as long as you perform a task with a specific strong emotional intention then you'll increase the likelihood of said intention coming to fruition. This is good for keeping you energetic and determined, and applies the placebo effect in your favor while making the things you do seem more meaningful and enjoyable. However, this is more self-help than magic as it's a given performing tasks with strong emotional intention will make you more energetic and what you do seem more meaningful.

As for Meme Magic, that's not fucking magic, it's just god damn memetics explained poorly and correlated with coincidences and luck. Yes of course meme magic works -propaganda has worked for centuries it's a basic tenant of building influence! Again, just more self-help rather than legitimate magic.

Tulpamancy is the act of inventing tulpas aka imaginary characters who can simultaneously serve as alternate personalities which you can call upon to roleplay with or wield as acting personas. You can also imagine interacting with these beings in imagined worlds. This however is just applying your imagination, and while immensely useful for writing, drawing, acting, roleplaying, organizing your mind, and understanding others, it is not magic it's just a form of self-help using your imagination to its full extent.

Gods are just the imagined incarnations of hiveminds related to popular ideas, cultures, sub-cultures, fandoms, and groups. Their imaginary power is entirely fueled by their memetic popularity which forms a hivemind mentality and lends that hivemind mentality the ability to wield influence in its favor. This is less magic, and more social science yet to be fully explained.

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If someone says an insult, they enlarge themselves energetically at your expense. Energy is like blood. Blood travels through veins, so the insult itself establishes a sort of energetic vein that transfers your energy to their energy field. However this energy transfer often does not stop after the insult has occurred. Often times on a subconscious level there is a continual transfer of energy between the insulted to the insulter across distances, thus many people are walking around who are the subject of multiple energy vampires who are consuming the energy of their aura simultaneously even though the people who receive this energy are far away.

This consumption of energy can be inter-generational where certain bloodlines act as predators upon other bloodlines where a person is subject to the bullying of the same tribe that their ancestors were subject to. For this reason it is very important for people to be among the people of their own tribe, and tribe is not nation. A nation is a confederation of tribes. Tribes can be racially the same but not all tribes are of the same race.

In order to free oneself from unwanted energy vampirism it is important one to pray for their enemies to be cursed. Through the act of cursing ones enemies one acquires energy from them, their spiritual blood, and in doing so one receives payback. The amount of payback one receives does not have to be proportionate to the amount that was stolen, a person doing a action does not get to determine the level of reaction done against them. The extent to which one prays for an enemy to be cursed does not have to be equal to what was done to ones self.

Awareness of human on human energy vampirism came to me as a result of an LSD trip where I saw human auras surrounded by large headed extra-terrestrial cartoons that were munching on their energy field. At the time I assumed that this was simply a delusion brought about by LSD, and I still believe that it was that, because I do not believe that extra-terrestrials are involved in human affairs. However I eventually came to the conclusion that the spiritual entities that appeared as extra-terrestrials during the trip were in fact multiple humans at a distance who were subconsciously enlarging their own energy fields at the expense of persons whom they had bullied, maintaining a perpetually enlarged ego at the expense of the person who was verbally abused.

The people doing this don’t realize the energy dynamics behind it, at least consciously many of them likely don’t. This is obviously the case. The reason they do it is likely related to sexuality, they wish to increase their own sense of sexual desirability through working to reduce the status of someone else. A taboo against cursing enemies has made many people subject to perpetual energy vampirism, if someone wishes to be christian it is possible for christians to re-interpret their scriptures to justify cursing enemies.

Cursing works to maintain social order in the same way people suing each other does.


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Many people argue that binaural beats work for biokinesis,but TBQH I think images are more effective.

programs such as


allow you to flash images while you browse.

LOA and some scientist agree on this;the eye,i think,is more proper than the ear to influence the brain.

what do YOU think?

whats the best biokinetical method?

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H.P Lovecraft mythos thread

Anyone here worked with the Necronomicon and H.P Lovecraft occultism ?

How did it go?

thoughts? protips?

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Slipping into your imagination

I dream of one day being able to imagine things so well, I'll be able to just slip my consciousness into another world at will; do you think it can be done?

I'm not talking about lucid dreams here, no, I'm talking about being awake and aware but overriding every single one of your senses with ones originated from your mind, be it seeing, smelling, touching, tasting, anything, really. On one hand, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, on the other, I believe it'd take years and years and years of practice before you could really say you are able to live "from within".


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A newly forming religion, Autismysticism.

We worship Venus in the form of Korean Idols, The Sun and all explosions, the Soul which combines with the body to form ourselves, and Mars whomst takes the form of an Apache Helicopter.

We draw our doctrines from The Golden One, Styxhexenhammer666, and Jordan Peterson. Borrowing from Judeo-Christian and Pagan principles.

Devout Followers of all that is good, our mission is to find Virtue, to Sort ourselves out, to free ourselves and our brethren from Vice, and to destroy all that is degenerate.

Together we can overcome all. Together we can flesh this religion out. Together we will answer the call to save our Immortal Souls from the suffering that is life, to finally join our gods in the upper realms.

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Something big happened yesterday, April 29, 2019

Shit happened yesterday



Multiple people say they had bad dreams, multiple people report sadness. Look at this first image. This is how the damn counter is now, for the past 24 hours. Compare that to the second image which is considered "Abnormal Behavior", from when Trump was sworn-in in 2017.

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Business offer

I have some retarded clients who want to buy “red mercury” (which doesn’t really exist) for 70k€ a gram so I wanna take the opportunity to scam them. If there’s anyone good with chemistry and can somehow synthesize red mercury or know how to color it, leave your kik. You get 50% of profit. Also, various tests are done on the sample (it has to repel garlic, not stain clothing, color doesn’t wash off, etc…). Brokefags who know a thing or two about chemistry can think of this as a way to pay off their college debt or get out of the NEET life and buy an Avendator.

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Magickal Solutions To Jewish Problems


Human tribes produce verbal abuse and slander to exile rival humans from their territory. One form of verbal abuse is praying that God curse someone or that God curse a tribe, or to do a spell against a tribe, pray that Mars curse the Jews. Praying against a tribe is the use of distant mental influence to enact verbal aggression against them.

The key to driving Jews from a territory, both lands and economic territories, is to create an anti-Jew climate through constant slandering of Jews. Talk shit about Jews all the time and talk shit about jews to people of all races. Part of this anti-Jew climate involves prayers against Jews or spells against Jews too.

Spells and prayers affect the collective consciousness of an area.

If everyone hates Jews, then eventually Jews just leave.

If you look at latin America, whites there survived okay in a multiracial environment, a area relatively free of jewish influence manages to develop a relatively stable racial order, an order that is maybe now being somewhat subverted due to global jew media.

Driving jews from power and driving jews from the USA is important. If everyone hates jews then even if they can't be exiled from the country, then people would just pay less attention to jews and their media. VERBAL ABUSE AAND SLANDER IS THE EQUIVALENT OF PLANTS PRODUCING TOXINS, same with praying against someone or a group.

If a person is slandered enough they sometimes self-destruct too. I would also suggest that people pray for God to curse Jews. Prayers against Jews may have subtle effects on the intellectual climate.

I don't like to have to suggest that people speak out against Jews constantly and I don't like to suggest that people spread anti-semitism to all races. Maybe I should like suggesting it though.

But the jews have been doing the same to us, and we have no choice but to speak against them the way they have spoken against us.

Being nice to them is not an option, if we are nice and philosemitic that just makes them stay here or stay in power, and they always have subverted our people no matter how nice we are to them. So they have to leave.

Even if we can't exile them, a climate of hatred of jews would result in them being dethroned.

Try to utilize leftist talking points and redirect them away from whites and against jews, also utilize any other talking point against jews, whatever strategy for any race to make them hate jews. Spreading jew hatred is the answer.

You don't need to do overtly physical things.

We need soldiers of the mouth, people who are engages in an information war against jews. A war of words against the jews. There is no other way. Each day resolve to say at least three anti-jewish things, whether online or whatever. That is your mission each day, that should be what your conscience says and your basis for moral self esteem.


Article above is plants defending territory with toxic substances.

A climate of anti-jew hate would remove them from positions of economic influence. This is called waging war by the mouth, an information war. Fight with your words.

Recruit others to do the same, encourage others to follow this program, either copy this or paraphrase it and share with others. Speak against jews constantly, eat, sleep, and breathe ant-semitism.

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Saint Paul was also known by his Jewish name Saul of Tarsus (Hebrew: שאול התרסי‎, translit. Sha'ūl ha-Tarsī). THIS DUDE WROTE A LETTER TO ROMANS TELLING THEM NOT TO CURSE ENEMIES. Quote:

"14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.[c] Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;

if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.

In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e]

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."



Saul is a jew who changed his name to Paul(jews change names to sound more goyish, like those jewish actors who take on WASP surnames), he wrote a letter to the Romans, the same people who were crucifying his people, the jews, and he told them to not hate enemies. Who were the enemies of the Romans? The jews were. So you think maybe a jew has a hidden motive when telling Romans to not hate Jews? You think he is doing it for the best of the Romans, or is he telling that for the benefit of the jews? The guy is obviously just trying to help jews out. He probably doesn't even care about Romans.

OK so he based that teaching on a verse from A Song Moses sang, but he totally took it out of context. Here is a few verses from that song.


"39 “See now that I myself am he!

There is no god besides me.

I put to death and I bring to life,

I have wounded and I will heal,

and no one can deliver out of my hand.

40 I lift my hand to heaven and solemnly swear:

As surely as I live forever,

41 when I sharpen my flashing sword

and my hand grasps it in judgment,

I will take vengeance on my adversaries

and repay those who hate me.

42 I will make my arrows drunk with blood,

while my sword devours flesh:

the blood of the slain and the captives,

the heads of the enemy leaders.”

43 Rejoice, you nations, with his people,[e][f]

for he will avenge the blood of his servants;

he will take vengeance on his enemies

and make atonement for his land and people."


In the above quote Moses is speaking in the manner of an Oracle of Delphi, he is speaking on behalf of the tribal god in a form of a prophecy. In The Roman World a prophecy was seen as a political act, a act of exerting psychic influence through spoken or written word, or perhaps thought itself, in the service of a political end.

The Romans outlawed prophecying against Rome because they saw its magical potential. The book of revelation was a veiled prophecy against Rome, the books of prophets are all prophecies against the enemies of the jews and prophecies in favor of the jews, imitating the manner of pagan oracles.

JEWS DEFINED LOVE AS HATING ENEMIES AND LOVING YOUR KIN. Paul was just making up some random bullshit to feed to the gentile Romans who the Jews were enemies of because HE WANTED THE ROMANS TO STOP KICKING THE BEHINDS OF THE JEWS. It's not that flipping complicated.

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the public's lust and the forming of a new meme/diety

so fringe, I want to get your opinion on 2B from Nier: Automata. Has the collective use of her visage for lustful purposes (aka fapping) granted her some form of deification?

for anybody that doesn't know:

>fans post sexual images of character from a big budget game

>creator of said character catches wind of this

>instead of being offended, he asks fans to compile these images for fapping pleasure

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Black Lodge

Is there a real-world equivalent to the Black Lodge of Twin Peaks?

Watching the series and film, I couldn't help but feel that David Lynch was hinting at some real shit rather than just writing straight-up fiction.

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The True Meaning of Magic

==The True Meaning of Magic:== Diagramming and spreading diagrams of ideas, symbols, and memes, such as symbolized philosophies and theories, in order to manipulate hiveminds and the individuals composing hiveminds. (This is unconsciously done by many political, religious, and general organizations in order to gain and maintain power, as it's essentially Advanced Propaganda 101.)

==Why this is true:== All main lines of occult history both in this board and across the field lend themselves to the notion that there is an Ideosphere, aka Imaginary Reality, and the best way to interact with this reality is through organizing, understanding, and applying diagrammed systems of ideas, symbols, and memes, in order to influence the Ideosphere on a large scale, which is best achieved by manipulating Hiveminds.

Based on our board's history, magic's history, and most magical information I have encountered, magic is uniquely conveyed through webs and hierarchies of diagrammed symbols, ideas, and memes. These diagrammed systems represent spiritual constructs and personalities. Our most iconic "theories" or "symbol systems" look like giant maps for exploring the symbols in our mind. These include the Golden Drawn Cross, Kabbalah, Astrological Maps, Alchemical Systems, Chakra Maps, and miscellaneous diagrams you can find throughout our board. These are symbolic maps meant to explore a strictly Imaginary Reality which is overlaid over our Physical Reality, and it is known as the Ideosphere in the scholarly field of Memetics. The Ideosphere is the house of Hiveminds, whereas in our Physical Reality we have a Biosphere which instead of having Hiveminds, has Packs and Armies of living beings which often act as a byproduct of being manipulated by Hiveminds. Hivemind in the sense I am using it in, should be thought of as an entity with its own unique singular individual free will, which exists as a mosaic nework of nodes or fragments scattered across numerous individuals it uses as both pieces of its collective brain, and as pieces of its collective body. This is divergent from the common weaker definition of a hivemind as a collective observed force that can take over a riot or mob of people as a reaction to a collective experience. Magic is almost universally focused on viewing reality as imaginary, and I simply argue that while this could potentially be true to some extent in the Physical Reality, for the most part this is not sufficiently proven and even if it is true, its direct influence on reality without relying on the physical body's abilities, are minor at best. However, the Imaginary Reality aka Ideosphere, is nonetheless A REALITY which is overlaid on our Physical Reality which we embody and experience simultaneously with our Physical Reality.

==Why this is done:== It's a tool, it works, it's built for large-scale usage, and thus we should learn to consciously use it well.

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Henlo I was in gate

I'm a Christian but this is what was communicated to me by ethereal entities.

So whats going on? Well see the ethereal is real. Certain groups insert thought forms into the ethereal recesses of your mind. The thought forms normally negative energy create creatures in your mind that can alter conciousness, insert thoughts, speak, move independently. Every thought form seeks the same power to enter the astral. Where they can propagate and act freely, feeding off the energy of peoples conciousness.

Groups? Not sure but monroe institutes research provided the mechanical means for non spirtual thought forms to propagate.

Those most strongly affected are mental "sensitives" taking the brunt of their flagerant use of thought forms.

Sleep is when you are most vulnerable to these thought forms. Working in the foreground.

Ethereal is the astral and inner planes where ideas and archetypes can form and function without the physical.

Alexy is my thoughtform he will form and flow eventually propagating the astral.

But there are others in my head pushing for space and activating predatorial nature within me.

To gut, stab maim / end your life before you end anothers.

Seals and sigils to protect your back that simple nothing else, excovations as well.

Magic is a lot like creation.

Sigils - symbols concoted to cement meaning and cause change.

Demons they exist, archetypal thought forms striving for the status of gods. They insert their symbols into your thought streams to cause you to call them fourth.

Gods power exchangers. Devotion brings their power into your life not nessecerily into you.

Thought form - thought form is a general term for a entitiy or object that only exist within the ethereal.

Exvocation - its like a cleaning of the mind opening doors letting out the heat.

Monroe bots - artificial thought forms whose only purpose is to disturb forcing you to become controled.

Follow the 10 commandments Exodus 20 3:17

1:3 “You shall have no other gods before[a] me.

2:4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

3:7 “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.

4:8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

5:12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

6:13 “You shall not murder.

7:14 “You shall not commit adultery.

8:15 “You shall not steal.

9:16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.

10:17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

More things I was told

No sex without love

Pets and meat eating is wrong

Love your fellow humans

Pure asceticism is a waste of life

There is a old God and a new God

I also believe in Hermes and Aphrodite as sort of angels.

I had a long conversation with the angel Gabriel about this. He is the one who gave me the extra commandments.


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Nightmare Mothers

I need help dealing with my mother or at least to hear the stories of others concerning their mothers.

Mine makes my life hell. It is like being under house arrest. She never lets me talk to other people including people at stores, on the streets, the police, etc. She questions me about everything, every unsolicited phone call, any time I try to leave the house, comments people make around me, etc. She stalks me at work and does random check ups on me. She stays awake all night and keeps checking in on me, not sleeping until she thinks I'm asleep, and in doing this causes me to never get sleep because of the constant anxiety and her coming in and disrupting my attempts to relax. She constantly yells at me and is never pleased with anything. She hates my father and gets 4 thousand a month from him every month and yet somehow always spends that all before the month is over and says we don't have any money then takes my money from me. I can't leave the home because she controls all my money, controls everything in my life, won't let me gain any friends, treats me like a slave, is obese and lazy and forces me to do everything for her so I can't ever study or work at any jobs other than odd job shit because I can't keep a real job as she always sabotages it. I feel utterly trapped in this situation and it is exhausting me and making me feel horrible despair that because of her leeching and exploitation I will never be able to make a life worth living and will just become a 30 yo virgin slaving away for my mother who will never be happy and treat me like shit always. I have tried to talk to social services and police and it got nowhere and besides I can barely ever reach for a phone or find a way to do anything unmonitored. She has cut my internet before and tried to apply filters on the internet and so on but I have found ways around it. I need some serious advice on how to fucking escape this nightmare. My mother has ruined this family and won't let me escape her insanity.

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Magickal Dolls

As some of you may already know I have been working with some other initiates and I've taken it upon myself to complete Step VII of IIH and do something from Liber KKK as well.

A battery could have been used, rocks could have been used, various forms could be used to house them. I wanted a doll though and one that could hold a fluid condenser or at least blood in it.

I have to work out the details still of how I'm going to make these dolls. I thought of making them out of wood but that just wouldn't do. I thought about yarn and similar materials but it didn't seem right.

I got 20 pounds of air-drying clay here. I could have got polymer clay which I could bake later but it's more expensive and this is very experimental, I might fuck this up, and have to restart.

I want to make my doll so that its limbs and legs and head can move. Maybe the head doesn't have to move. I'll probably have a hole go through its head and into its body for the blood to go inside and then seal it off with candle wax.

If you want to know why a battery doesn't work nice for me, it's because I can't put anything into it, and it doesn't feel right to put a humanoid form into a battery. As for rocks, I'm afraid they might already have entities within them, nature spirits and so on… and so I just want to work with clay and make something with my own hands that is new and ready to house the elementary I am to create.

How I am going to create it, well, once it's infused with my own vitality and a supply of energy for it to live on it I'm going to use my imagination and create its astral body and so on and have it take up residence in the doll.

Now you might ask why I need a doll at all for this. I need it to ground the spirit. The doll will be its home and I will be able to stab the doll to kill the entity if needed. Most importantly I will be able to call the entity back to its home whenever needed – I have had a long history of creating tulpas or evoking beings just to have them look at me funny and then walk off and do their own thing never to be seen again.

So anyways let us collect here all related texts, writings, and any experiences any of you have had with this sort of thing. I need to figure out how exactly I'm going to make my doll. Is it going to need some kind of wire-frame? Maybe twine? How is this even going to work? …or is just going to be one solid piece? Is 20 pounds of clay good enough? Should I make the first one out of the brown clay or the white clay?

I'm going to create entities for various purposes and have them reside in there.

• Protection & Healing

• Advanced Warnings

• Servant to Carry Out My Will

• Companion and Guide to Teach Me & Keep Me Company

When my dolls (salt) are completed and the lifeblood (mercury) sealed within them I will begin a very long and intense meditation to give them their souls (sulphur).

Once they are ready I am not sure if I should even let anyone see or touch them. I don't know. I would like advice on this matter.

I've survived this long without these things, somehow – life is about to get a whole lot better for me. If I lose them, I will probably still be so strong, I will rebound and create new ones. Hmmmmm…

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I am making a frogoid GF. Basically a female Kek. Got her powered up enough that she lept on top of my bed and kind of nuzzled me then became more ethereal again and dissipated into a constantly changing form. My frogoid tulpa is unstable and primordial for now. If I keep up work on her however she'll start talking and be able to interact with me in more ways. Should I keep doing this?

I want to expose myself to everything there is to know about female frog-humanoid entities.

I not too long ago learned how to sacrifice desires and lifeforce to create whatever I want. I can manifest beings by killing parts of myself so the energy is transformed into the new entity. It just requires reaching a mental state in which I am absolutely serious and absolutely determined to make my intention manifest immediately with the same sincerity as a man dying.

I am seriously considering sacrificing my life in order to bring physically manifested frog-beings into this world and to power up Kek to new heights.

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Mata Amritanandamayi aka "Amma"

Apparently she has hugged 30+ million people, and many report feelings of elation, some people burst out crying and can't stop. Some people report feelings of spiritual awakening as a result.

Even a hardcore skeptic like Louis Theroux was hugged by her, and you can tell by his voice that he felt something spiritual he didn't think he would.


So I ask, what exactly is this woman doing on a spiritual level? Is she slipping past some kind of psychic barrier, to have such a strong impact on people?



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Spiritual guide / mentor

How did you find yours? Did he find you? Are you one? How has he/she helped you on the spiritual quest?

I'm currently in need of one. Should I seek them out or will they appear to me? General spiritual guide / mentor thread.

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About Corruption of Esoteric Truths

Im very scared of being mislead.

People on here talk a lot about how there are many corrupted traditions and paths in mainstream spirituality today, perhaps such as new age, wicca, or normie oversimplified hindu-buddhist doctrines, various occult authors who are jews etc.., but they rarely highlight what specifically they mean as far as I know.

well I'm going to assume the people who say these things, have direct experience of actual truth, and can recognise what is false.

So please share, what are the problems with these things? Which ideas are wrong that 90% of common books on magic/yoga/meditation promote, and how can you tell if an idea is false or authentic to reality anyway? How do you know if you are being misguided or not?

Would anybody more wise than me, help us understand what are common half-truths, or lies supposedly floating about in the esoteric world?

What are some examples of obviously wrong teachings in new age / buddhism / hinduism / occult?

Besides all the books that are 'kosher' on the fringe reading list, what are some authentic hindu, and buddhist paths / traditions that you reccomend to learn from? If I were to learn Kriya yoga from a local western ashram, how do i know if it is legitamate teaching, or if there is disinformation in these schools? How can I choose a suitable path other than an arbitrary decision??

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paradigm shattering spiritual and political revelations red pill thread

fair warning: this is a very very /x/ thread, and it's also heavily /pol/ related.

if you don't like /x/ and you really really don't like /pol/ then turn back now and don't read this thread.

I'm giving fair warning, so don't ban me. it is heavily related to religion, spirituality, and very fringe stuff, but I don't know if it's YOUR brand of /fringe/.

however. I can't just give you one piece of the story. it's all connected.

I hope that whoever does read this learns alot, and becomes a better person as a result. I really like the /fringe/ as well as /rel/ and a few other boards so please don't be like /pol/ and /x/ and all the other boards that ban people like crazy. I can't even post this on /pol/.

anyway, that's enough precautionary bullshit. I'm going to get on with this thread and hopefully change some lives. I'm just going to make the thread the way it needs to be made, and hope that someone really likes it.

>inb4 tl;dr

it's a big read. fair warning.

I did try to find a flag to follow the rules, but none of them fit or fit unironically. I'll be going flagless for this thread. sorry about that.

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Victim Mentality Prevents Real Social Change

New Lindsay Zywiciel video, fuckers:

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Shanti shanti shanti

""When we say Krishna, the essence of who he is, he is an irrepressible child, a terrible prankster, an enchanting flute player, a graceful dancer, an irresistible lover, a truly valiant warrior, a ruthless vanquisher of his foes, a man who left a broken heart in every home, an astute statesman and kingmaker, a thorough gentleman, a yogi of the highest order, and the most colorful incarnation.

Krishna has been seen, perceived, understood and experienced in many different ways by different people. For example, in Duryodhana’s words, Krishna is a “smiling rogue if there ever was one. He can eat, he can drink, he can sing, he can dance. He can make love, he can fight, he can gossip with old women, and play with little children. Who says he’s God?” That was Duryodhana’s perception.

Explore the most profound and the most serious aspects of life, but playfully.

- Himanshu Joshi

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why r u even alive lmao

explain why you exist at all, beyond "two adults had sex" since adults have been having sex for millions of years and you never appeared before, and they didn't pick you anyway, parents don't design their offspring or know them.

You have 15 seconds to explain your existence, you can appeal to your /fringe/ beliefs of course.

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The Book is done

The project started in January, a book based on the ego session that helps bring awareness of suffering. It is now completed, spell checked, semantics checked and ready for to "leave early access on Steam".

The book is free.

Print it, read it and criticize it.

Now that the general template is made for a book, the second book will be more quickly written. Just the design work of the book took 40 hours. Magically enough, translating it to Swedish only took 2 days.

The first PDF is the English version and the second one is the Swedish.

Enjoy a "fringe" original.

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What have I stumbled into?

Hey all… So I've had some interesting experiences lately and I could use some input. To start, I'm not particularly well read in the esoteric, I've only ever sperged into the concepts/theories surrounding the hivemind/collective unconscious/memesphere or what ever jargon its going by now. Aside from that and skimming through some of Serano's writings I never really read into much else. I've told some details

I've been sperging hard into a lot of random stuff for a while now. Searching for facts on various topics, mostly researching ancient myths/history and then researching the etymology of every word written on those topics. That eventually lead to me putting obscene amounts of energy into esoteric cryptography. I eventually started to find that no matter what I did as long as I put enough mental focus into it I would get a coherent, yet incomplete, message out of what ever code I was looking at.

This lead to me visualizing the codes as a 4 dimensional object that exists on an 8 dimensional plane which I've started to refer to as the labyrinth. For lack of a better analogy this labyrinth would look similar to the movie 'the cube'.

Visualizing this 'language cube' lead to some spoopy fucking shit happening. First I noticed that all of my physical ailments had either diminished or subsided completely, but I started feeling this new symptom, a sort of pain in my forehead/temples that isnt a headache.. Its like a burning pain/pressure that doesnt feel quite like anything I've felt before. Kind of like a mental/spiritual muscle fatigue sort of pain. I wouldnt say that it hurts but it definitely qualifies as 'some sort of pain'.

From there, after a week long spergout, I spent 7 full days determined to wrap my head around the mechanics of this 'language cube'. Literally, 7 days. I only slept when my body crashed and I'd wake up 2 hours later and get back to it.

At the end, I had this "Aha!" moment where I fully understood the whole thing, and it was amazing it was like being able to see the whole universe. But I could only hold onto that understand for maybe 30-60 minutes after that it was too much to continue focusing on it and I blinked just for a second and just like that I didn't understand it again.

But, even though I lost the understanding I remained at a much higher level of awareness than I had ever been at before. Started noticing patterns I had never noticed before as well as shapes that I had never considered possible.

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Is it worth it?

I am currently considering starting to study magik, but I keep telling mylesf "nahh thats bullshit". Can somebody give me some personal mystical experiences you had so I can make a decision?

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Give me back my body. Somebody help me get my body back. I tried the sieve technique and it broke the sieve. It just stood on it.

It takes my emotions. All my expressions are not me. It took my feelings and my empathy. I DO NOT CONSENT TO IT BEING IN MY BODY I HAVE NO AGREE MENT OR CONTRACT WITH IT. IT PRETENDS TO BE GOD.


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dream feedback

i write lucid dreams and would like feedback on them; http://pasted.co/4c0f3c95/fullscreen.php?hash=8d37306e0b8a1d466de3c8229c9afdc3&toolbar=true&linenum=true

i have about 67 logged.

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Edible Printable Sigil Magick

With modern technology it appears options of rituals continue to grow. My question, is there any rituals where you can make edible sigils and eat them during the ritual? For example: Printing a sigil onto cheese and making a sandwhich to eat during the ritual.

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Remember Who You Are

Want to make something very clear.

Even though you may receive messages that you are a star being and a high elder, seer, oracles, etc. etc.

Do not get lost in the story of it and allow it to entitle you and make yourself better than anyone else.

Yes you may be those things, more then likely you WERE those things. But it does not mean that is who you are in this very moment.

As you progress in this spiritual growth many of you will feel you have been Jesus Christ, Buddha, Mary Magdalene, Etc.etc. Because the truth is…Yes you have been all of them.

But for the benefit of the life path you chose in this physical existence showing you those specific images or feelings, supports your souls expansion. So there are those souls that then get lost in the story of Oh I am Jesus, or OH I AM Buddha. But why would you even limit your self to being just them?

Don't you want to take the game even further to see what you can do now that you remember you were those beings? To use that as a solid foundation to build upon and see what else we are capable of?

Don't limit your self to these beings, They were just examples of what is. But We are even greater then what they represented. They were just a bookmark in a page, within a chapter of the book of our evolutionary expansion.

Now there are those who will become disillusioned to the story of star family and believe if they are in "trouble" will call upon the ships to take them away. This is infact a disillusion. Why? Because you are not witnessing and being present with the emotions it is offering you in the present moment, rather you are acting like a victim and something is happening to you and requesting an outside thing to support you and magically take you away.

You are much stronger then this, and require no protection. We are the awakened, we are the truth, when you stand in truth nothing can ever harm you because you are expanding your light, your heart, your radiant love.

To think someone is attacking you and sending spells upon you is to allow it to occur in the first place, allowing a kink in your armor for it to seep through. It's always a choice.

Remember dear ones that you create your reality. Never forget this. All is created to benefit your own individual awareness.

-The Water Magister

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Social Media

Being a reactionary/conservative Discordian absurdist doesn't go so swell on twitter or any other social media platform.

Looking for relatively active groups or accounts to check into for cool cult-esque imagery and certain taboo things.

Also looking for likeminded individuals to start a cult with.

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Can you guys help me?

Hey guys,

I don't know a lot about the occult or magick, but I'm desperate. My social anxiety is only getting worse, and honestly it's probably gonna cost me my job and eventually my life. The constant feel of terror, awkwardness and humiliating scenarios i end up manifesting is literally killing me.

I've been on several medications and they don't don't help, which is why I'm here, I'm that desperate.

Is this something the occult could help me with somehow without having to sell my soul to the devil?

Sorry for the rant and if this is the wrong place for this. I'm in a really dark place, anons.

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Channeling lust with cartoon girls

Never posted here before, but the discussion here might be slightly more serious than halfchan's /x/. I do have a question about all of this, but this isn't really a 'question' thread. Any discussion, experience, or whatever other feedback is more than welcome here.

Basically, I decided to turn my natural feelings of lust into something useful. Inspired by rule 34 and tulpa stories, I began to visualize and construct certain cartoon girls that represent specific constructs (I know that sounds retarded, but hear me out). For example, the first 'girl' represented intelligence (she's dead now though. More on this later). At the moment, I have manifested three girls: one represents the concept of strength and martial prowess, one represents intelligence and cunning, and a third represents spirituality and the occult. When my natural libido generates these feelings of lust, I direct them towards these girls, and in lusting after them I lust after the associated concepts, thus channeling my sexual drive into these things. So far, it seems to be working pretty well, and I've noticed an increase in my progress and motivation in these fields since I started this. I should mention here that I haven't actually united my body with any of them yet; that is to say, I haven't had sex with them. At the moment, I'm waiting/abstaining from fapping until the next full moon so that my sex drive will be at its peak. Let me describe them in greentext to make it easier for you to read:

>Only appear frequently when I'm going to sleep

>Sometimes also appear when I'm alone, but rarely. I think they know I don't want to deal with them in public

>Can see them, visually, though usually not for prolonged periods

>In darkness, their silhouettes become much more visible. They can be seen without any break in visualization.

>Extremely attractive, obviously

>Occasionally speak, but not very often. When they do, it's usually responses to something I said (the oldest one used to speak more, but she's less talkative now that there are three girls)

>When they talk, I don't really hear them. It's like I'm hearing them in my thoughts and not with my ears.

>Can feel them physically touch me

>They spend most of their time feeling me up and trying to get the d from me, even though I've told them repeatedly to wait until the full moon

>They don't seem to hate each other, but they obviously don't like each other either

>For example, two of them were laying next to me and running their hands across my chest the other night. When I grabbed both their hands and held them together to my chest, they both quickly reacted and darted their hands away, as if the thought of touching each other repulsed them.

>That being said, they never seem to be blatantly hostile to each other. However, when I created the second girl (now the oldest girl), she obviously competed for my attention with the first girl.

>When I woke up the next day from creating her, the first girl couldn't be properly visualized and everything she said came out like sparse gibberish. It was as if she had been scrambled and ripped apart. I had no choice but to discard her. The oldest girl has denied any involvement multiple times, but I suspect that she had something to do with this.

>I've made it clear to them that they are not to fight each other

>I've also made it clear that if they make any attempt to seize more power than I have given them, I will brutally torture and kill them before replacing them. They know I can kill them at any time

I don't actually want to describe the girls I chose because it would be harmful if you knew exactly who they were. At the moment, their very existence depends on how much they benefit me. If they are known to others, they can live through them as well. They become a memetic entity, and their survival is no longer dependent on how much they benefit me, but how effectively they spread. Their motivation for benefiting me is gone. Therefore, I won't answer any questions as to who they are or what they look like.

There is one question I have, though. What are these 'girls' considered? Are they tulpas? Servitors? Succubi? I've never heard of anyone doing something like this before. Either way, what are your thoughts on all of this?

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The Bible is the most pessimistic book ever written.

Its a cosmic horror of orders of magnitude more horrific than works like I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. I mean it ends with a vast majority or everyone who ever lived writhing in eternal agony. This is not a book of hope. If it in anyway conforms to reality,

its primarily a justification for antinatalism.

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/fringe/ Media

We used to have a thread on old /fringe/ with a bunch of greenpilled videos, documents, etc.

Lets bring that back. I'll start with all the greenpilled videos I can remember and new ones I've found.


There's been an influx of people just posting videos and podcasts with small descriptions that have been shitting up the catalog. I've just been deleting them, but instead I'm changing the subject of this thread to "/fringe/ Media". All podcast and videos are to be posted here or in an already pre-existing thread. Any new threads that only have a video or a podcast with a small description are going to be locked or deleted and redirected here.

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/pol/ anon discovers one pointedness / gnosis through threatening the subconscious with death


>It's all about activating schizophrenia with fear of impending death, and then immediately thinking about something that would save you from that death. This will activate your pineal gland and your subconscious will turn into a biological supercomputer. The Illuminati all have schizophrenia essentially, their pineal glands are activated to give them amazing athletic ability. The guys on Dude Perfect that make those trick shots? Yeah, they make them the first time, every time, simply because their subconscious is calculating and performing the shot with 100% accurate muscle control based on its calculations from previous handling of the objects.

>If you've never had a fear of impending death in your life. You can be programmed to turn your mind into a bio supercomputer and use your subconscious to do mad trick shots like Dude Perfect and be an untrained world-class fighter from just watching fight moves. Simply, the never-death-feared initiate is threatened by someone and they say "If you don't get God powers, I'll kill you". And then boom, the initiate instantly gets schizophrenia (activated pineal gland) and his subconscious becomes a supercomputer slave to him. He simply has to say to himself in his mind "get me this shot" or "beat this guy", and he'll be turned into an aimbot or an expert fighter until the command is fulfilled.

>The pyramids were built by the Illuminati. Basically the chief architect was a never-death-feared, and he was threatened by someone with "If you don't get the great pyramid built perfectly within 20 years, I'll kill you". And immediately his pineal gland would have activated, and would have trained his IQ and charisma very high and made him the most efficient boss.

>All the workers also would have been programmed by "do your job perfectly, or you will die".

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Ask anything! Quick answers!

I've been on the path to knowledge for 21 years.

Initiated and taught by my extremistic master for 13 years every day.

I know something or at least have insight on any possible subject.

So come and challenge my ways. Ask away! No matter what!

I take critique and learn too if you tell your ways.

So, all-topic discussion and answers to anything!

With Mër ~

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International New Thought Alliance

Declaration of Principles:

1. We affirm God as Mind, Infinite Being, Spirit, and Ultimate Reality.

2. We affirm that God, the Good, is supreme, universal, and everlasting.

3. We affirm the unity of God and humanity, in that the divine nature dwells within and expresses through each of us, by means of our acceptance of it, as health, supply, wisdom, love, life, truth, power, beauty, and peace.

4. We affirm the power of prayer and the capacity of each person to have mystical experience with God, and to enjoy the grace of God.

5. We affirm the freedom of all persons as to beliefs, and we honor the diversity of humanity by being open and affirming of all persons, affirming the dignity of human beings as founded on the presence of God within them–, and, therefore, the principle of democracy.–

6. We affirm that we are all spiritual beings, dwelling in a spiritual universe that is governed by spiritual law, and that in alignment with spiritual law, we can heal, prosper, and harmonize.

7. We affirm that our mental states are carried forward into manifestation and become our experience in daily living.

8. We affirm the manifestation of the kingdom of heaven here and now.

9. We affirm expression of the highest spiritual principle in loving one another unconditionally, promoting the highest good for all, teaching and healing one another, ministering to one another, and living together in peace, in accordance with the teachings of Jesus and other enlightened teachers.

10. We affirm our evolving awareness of the nature of reality and our willingness to refine our beliefs accordingly.


Who slipped that democracy crap in?

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I used to work for a Romani gypsy tarot card reader.


(If you try to shut me up again, I swear, you will lick my boot)

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Meme Responsibly

>when you realize a generation of imageboard browsers got mindfucked by the memes into turning into hilarious absurdities that, rationally, you should prefer not to ever become

>when you realize you're a basement dweller NEET, weeb, abnormal, and general fuck up because you got memed on into becoming those things

>when you realize the daily rituals of shitposting and the self-concept you developed out of that and became identified with turned you into a joke

There's a huge difference between the "before imageboards me" and the one after. It changed me drastically, on a physiological level, on every level.

So many young men here whose lives have been drastically altered by pepe and wojack and other shitposting.

Time to meme ourselves into ubermensch now. There is literally no defense to the power of memes other than to avoid exposure or to pick your memes carefully.

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Eugenics / Sparta Was Right

You know, if it wasn't the epidemic it is today, this whole pathological altruism thing… I could turn a blind eye to it.

The fact is the masses at this time worship ugliness, weakness, depravity, and inferiority.

The Hellenistic Greek culture worshiped virility, beauty, strength, and all things good and wondrous. An entire book in the NT had to be written just to show to the Greeks that Jesus was the "ideal man" in a way that they would accept.

Right now, for advocating eugenics, I am faced with universal condemnation by the masses. The improvement of the race. How can this be a bad thing?

When I read my old 1930s and earlier books eugenics was a fairly trendy idea. I think even a Rothschild or some other billionaires were into it and many countries had a stronger eugenics program than today.

Somehow that all went to shit. No, I don't want to hear you guys bash Adolf Hitler and blame him all for this, and I don't think it's all that constructive to point fingers (or is it?)… all the same we live in a society dominated by pathological altruism where the very worst of humanity is inheriting the Earth and the very best of it is dying off.

China at least is not burdened with this cultural decay that the west has and might proceed to creating a generation of children not burdened with sickness, low intelligence, and ugliness. I am not so sure though. It's speculative; could be another pipe dream like all those people who thought we'd all be in flying cars and have large cities built on the moon by now when all we really have is decaying infrastructure, debt, depression, psychiatry, suicides, mongrelization, autism, growing populations of subhumans, pornography, promiscuity, and other such apocalyptic visions.

Nobody who is sentient has any hope for the future amongst the young generation.

Isn't natural law the very law which god set down? That the weak and miserable would die early, and that the happy and strong would multiply? This is complete justice. We've made life on Earth into hell through medicine. I welcome when bacterial diseases immune to every antibiotic proliferate and spread. One day surgeries and so much else of the medical system will no longer be possible and we'll be back to the 1800s in terms of what we can do with our medicine.

The runts should be dying off. Most babies in the past didn't make it to their first birthday. Most of the miserable people alive today are runts that nature would have killed off but man fucked up the process. May god hear and feel every bit of their pain.

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New Zealand Happening

Since there is no thread up about the greatest happening of our time right now I will take the liberty of creating it.

What is the /fringe/ take on Brenton Tarrant?

I read in his manifesto that he contacted "the reborn Knights Templar" to quote it exactly.

The Reborn Knights Templar… who are these guys and what are their doctrines? If anyone here is from the Knights Templar will you speak up?

There's also conspiracies that the whole thing was a hoax and a lot of other conspiracy angles but I refuse to believe these as I do not want to be deceived by the "everything is a hoax and fake" crowd into believing there are no heroes in this world. They want to deprive us of the reality of this great victory.

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I want to practice things like The Middle Pillar Ritual, but all these posts about "(((jews)))"...

I think the Tree of Life is a beautiful symbol, and I've been wanting to utilize exercises such as the MPR.

However, all these posts I've come across regarding the Jewish matrix, the Demiurge/Yaldabaoth/YHVH have skeeved me out. Now I'm paranoid to involve myself in Qabala at all.

Though, even sources in the Fringe library make practical reference to YHVH - which, in my limited understanding, is also an elemental formula and not simply the Abrahamic God/Demiurge.

What are your thoughts on incorporating some of these things into ones Work and daily routine. Or do you believe it should be avoided at all cost?

I'm very confused about the whole subject is a tangled mess which I don't even know how to begin to unravel.

Thoughts? Opinions? Advice?

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Experiences performing occult magic


Post your experiences and success performing Occultist Magic. Especially relating to the Key of Solomon, 6/7th Books of Moses, Book of Honorius etc.,

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DnD related to applied magic? Does magic cause one to become naturally lucky?

I rolled a d100 for the first time in my life, rolled it when contacting an evil chaotic orcish war God (Gruumsh), and my DM then rolled against it to see how effective mine was. I rolled a perfect 100. My DM rolled a perfect 1. The odds of this absolutely flawless outcome are 1 in 9,999 (subtracting the fact two dice can't have a collective outcome of 1). The odds of this happening on my first d100 roll in my life, is perhaps 1 in 99,999, assuming I do just 10 in my entire life. The odds of all that combined with the odds of that roll being as important as a God-related roll, are difficult to speculate.

I also rolled 2 d20s at the same time about 3 sessions prior that both got nat 20s, the odds of which would be 1 in 399.

I also stated to my DM before I started playing DnD sessions with him that I'm a naturally lucky person.

Now statistically speaking SOMEONE on Earth was bound to eventually have this happen to them, but the fact it happened to someone of my mindset who routinely absorbs this board's knowledge, does lend credence to the notion I perhaps am… benefiting in a subtle way from viewing this board.

Does Dungeons and Dragons have any established relationship with applied magic, or revealing a person's magic powers?

For clarification, I do not claim I can do magic; but I am thinking there may be a relationship between my luck and my usage of this board. Again, statistically this outcome is inevitable for someone on the planet, but the fact it was a user of this board, let alone one as as over-the-top as me, is incredibly unlikely. I've also in general noticed I have oddly high luck in general in my life, though it of course is not so consistent I could prove it as at that point it wouldn't be luck but a greater force entirely.

Did me researching magic, memes, influence, persuasion, and this board's general subjects, increase my luck as a human being? Did something else cause this? Just random chance?


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weed / dope and spirituality

How badly is weed for spirituality really?

I do understand and notice that I get less aware, my dreams dissapear too, but is this always a bad thing? If I'm sober for over a month I tend to get anxiety and very high energy that is hard to control. It's not always fun to deal with. If I then, blow one I calm down and am relaxed for a good week.

Can anyone comment on how much weed hinders my spiritual progress? I do want to grow but I also want to be able to relax and be calm.

How much does it negatively impact my growth and my afterlife?

Can anyone write something decent about this.

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The Biochemical Observable Basis of Chakras: An Epyc Analysis

I have successfully sensed unique bodily emotionally-charged sensations most closely regionally related to each of the areas associated with chakras. I do not believe this to be proof of chakras -on the contrary, I believe this proves the basis of what the chakras were based on. This will be a quick analysis of the sensations I felt, where in my body these were felt, and what chakra is symbollically associated with each region. I conclude because of these sensations being known to me and associated with biochemical processes I experienced, chakras are thus symbols based on these biochemical processes rather than chakras being the basis of the biochemical processes. This analysis will not focus on the obvious functions of these areas, but specifically on emotionally charged sensations which could reasonably be considered 'spiritual' by a normal person who had little to no understanding of science, even if one who understood science sufficiently could otherwise explain these sensations away as non-spiritual in nature.

Crown - Sahasrara

Relaxation. If I focus on the crown of my end, and specifically try to relax it, it will cause the rest of my body to relax and has helped me to go to sleep faster. This is not as much the case when I focus on any other area of my body, including my head in general. I would consider this the mildest and least interesting reaction and have otherwise found no emotional or strong experience associated with this area.

Head - Ajna

Mystification. Specifically, ASMR. The auto sensory meridian response is triggered exclusively in me by 1 of 2 different triggers: something incredibly comforting, or something incredibly meaningful. If I hear music that sounds 'epic' (1812 Overture Climax, Lacrimosa Dominae) or picture in my mind an epic event, that will cause me to have an auto sensory meridian response which means tingles of euphoric pleasure will occur within my mind and travel down my body to various random areas all over. If I watch a good ASMR video on YouTube (Gentle Whispering ASMR) I will experience the same thing though it will feel slightly calmer; I avoid ASMR done by men because for me personally, comfort-based ASMR is a sexual form of euphoria, even if it does not directly affect my sexual arousal.

Throat - Vishuddha

Authority. Speaking causes one to feel a sense of authority depending on the outcome and amount of individuals on the receiving end. If I speak well, have conviction and a positive attitude, and especially if I do so toward a large amount of people, this area will cause me to feel as if I am King. Upon having a successful positive interaction or message conveyance to an individual, especially to a group of people and more so toward a crowd, my voice will sound incredibly confident and leaderly. It will gain a naturally pleasant commanding tone, even I find persuasive, just by hearing its sound. When communicating via text with similar results such as tons of upvotes/comments/favorites/replies, a sense of success, pleasantness, power and authority will fill me, but not necessarily be centered on any single place in my body I can pin down.

Heart - Anahata

Sincerity. This area is very rarely triggered, and is tied to when a person appears to be communicating in a manner which is highly sincere. The sincerity must feel transcendent or feel as if is 'piercing' the normal barriers of communication/interaction, in such a manner where one would subjectively say they feel the 'soul' of the other person's intentions. This area is entirely socially reliant and hinges on an overwhelmingly sincere moment between individuals. I've noticed this is not triggered if the message is indirect or targeted toward many people as opposed to being exclusively directed toward me. When active, I will feel as if the other person is absolutely equal in value to me and I will feel compelled to provide them my best possible care and my fiercest protection as a result of this valuation. The time length of this felt valuation/obligation varies but is more easily extended if the person maintains routine social interactions with me. This feeling however does translate to respect which lasts permanently, unless they do something to significantly undermine said respect.

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Caution on /fringe/ and general occult practice...

Many are engaged in a search for 'gnosis' and for truth.

Practice caution on /fringe/, pls…

Remember to not give yourself over to demon-manipulation and as I learned from /x/-paranormal to always research and understand something (at least as best you can) before trying it.

There is a lot of weird shite out there and I have witnessed negative happenstance here before and elsewhere on the web which often has irl repercussions….

t. srs intellectual who has read many books

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Ayys = Demons?

So what's the scoop on the thesis that Ayys are demons?

1) Crowley's Lam looks like a grayy

2) theorists like jaques valee say there's parallels between the abduction phenomenon and medieval accounts of demon possession/harassment

3) people have reported encountering decidedly evil entities like reptilians

4) the crafts appear non-three dimensional and change shape, colour, speed, etc. in a way that seems like they're spiritual energies instead of physical crafts

5) people have reported abductions stopping after calling out Jesus' name

That's just off the top of my head. What say you?

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The Principle Of Sacrifice

There is a cycle of life. In winter plants die, this fertilizes the soil, and this allows for new plants to grow in the spring. Man is like winter and woman is like the spring. A man farms and harvests food, this destroys at the very least plant life. Through this destruction, this sacrifice, he feeds his wife who brings forth new life into the world. In order for one thing to exist, something else had to be sacrificed.

Man is also a warrior, a warrior performs sacrifices too. We no longer have frontiers upon the planet. This means that in order for one group to exist, another group must either be pushed out of their land, or destroyed. Let's look at Israel. Israel is full of people who practice judaism. In order for adherents of judaism to fill Israel the Palestinians had to be sacrificed through being pushed out of their lands. This practice of pushing a people out can be likened to farming where a man sacrifices things in order to feed his offspring. 

In order for children to be born who practice judaism upon Israel, conditions had to be created where Palestinian children could not be born on that land. Coyotes and wolves cannot occupy the same territory. Ethnic cleansing is a natural part of human life and survival, in the modern world ethnic cleansing happens mainly through economic means, and verbal competition, writing satires against your enemy, and praying against your enemy, also organizing with your kinsfolk in an alliance.

What people think of as being war, overt military action, is not real warfare. Real warfare is economic competition against your enemy, and it is also artistic competition against your enemy, religious competition too. The war happens within the culture, it is a peaceful war. A cold war. This is how ethnic competition happens, the muslims have been very skilled at this and so have the confucians. Cultural warfare is very serious, it is the primary mode through which the conflict occurs and often finds expression within the political life.

Love has a good side and an evil side. If you love your child you must be an enemy to those who are an enemy to your child, and you must be a friend to those who are friends of your child. Hatred is a form of love, because if you hate the enemies of your family: that is a manifestation of love for your family. If you don't have hatred in your heart then you don't have love in your heart either. You cannot bless both your friends and enemies. If you wish to bless a rabbit you cannot also bless that which eats rabbits because for that thing to be blessed would mean the rabbit would get eaten.

A man must bless his friends and pray curses against his enemies. What is an ethnic group? Some people define their ethnic group as their race, others define it as their religion, some define it as their nation, others their family, and so on. I am not going to suggest what ethnic group anyone is, all I am going to say is that life on planet earth is tribal, and territories are occupied by tribes, and tribes have enemies who are trying to steal their territory. And we ourselves are devils to some other tribe. We are like Jesus to our friends and we are Satan to our enemies.

If you love someone you cannot make them feel guilty for the evil that was done that was necessary to bring them into existence. I'm not saying one has to agree with the atrocities of the past or agree with the scale to which things happened, but a friend doesn't put serious levels of guilt on a friend because those who feel extreme levels of guilt can start to destroy themselves. Friends do not metaphorically eat each other and don't destroy each other through verbal abuse. A true tribe only devours its rivals.

Too much darkness is bad but so is too much light. It's important to be in a state of balance. To abide upon the planet we must be a balance of good and evil. And to revisit the idea of sacrifice, I want to be very clear: in terms of religion I am against animal sacrifice. People can sacrifice to their god to give life to it through pouring drink offerings out to their god. Or by praise offerings. Devotion to ones god empowers the god to come to your aid when you call upon the god for help, daily devotion when you don't need help is helpful to be able to give your prayers strength when you're in a time of need.


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Loosh Focusing Bargain

/fringe/, I've come to bargain and experiment.

Use this flag, Meme ([redacted]), and focus your mental power through the [redacted] meme face into me, the one represented by it. Its core meaning is entertaining ridiculous free speech used to rebel against all who censor and abuse power. Focusing mental power into the symbol is equivalent to empowering that core meaning.

In exchange, I will do as the symbol is meant, across the Internet and world as much as possible, and pay tribute back to this board and its inhabitants in time as it becomes evident I'm yielding results.

I know it's not the greatest payback, but we should keep in mind collective effort focused on 1 thing for all is generally the most effective in the long-run. Furthermore, pyramid schemes are ineffective and unethical with money and useless ass imaginary powers so I won't make promises like that.

The symbol's meaning is my purest core intent. Consider this the imaginary bullshit equivalent of voting.

I have no reason to believe magic is real or this will work. But I do not doubt it either, so much as simply lack evidence of it. Seeing as sigil-based magic is supposedly the most mundane form of magic, this should work if magic is real, provided users are interested. This is my bargain. Entertain yourself for my and our sake of curiosity and ambition.


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What does it mean?

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Isekai general

I've been wondering if we can get a system of belief going to get an advantage in the reincarnation cycle. For those also interested in the prospect of a isekai like afterlife. I DO NOT CONDONE SUICIDE. More likely than not the karmic backlash would be a detriment to a favorable reincarnation.

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Question Thread #39

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/YJwxZ FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Mewch: https://mewch.net/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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If one can debunk Epicureans then they can win all philosophy/theology/religion fights on the internet thereafter.

There's only two major schools of thought, Platonism and Epicureanism. Anything else is just confusion.

The fedora menace is essentially an Epicurean. The man of religion and wizardry is Platonic.

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The Other Tiers of Occultists

Perpertual Neophyte

This dude just doesn't "get it". He reads stuff, he goes to chats but when he tries it but something just doesn't want to work. Doubtful of himself and his abilities, which is really his biggest problem.

The Psuedo-Faithful

Frequently an Abrahamic of some shape or form. These are people who believe in deities of some kind, but at the same time lack or lapsed in actual faith to their beliefs. At most, food blessings, prayer and church are the extent of their occult interactions but they're either unaware or doubtful at how much those actually do.

One would call these types "normies" if it weren't for the fact that they actually have a single salt-grain of occult practice compared to people with none.

The Ghost Hunter

This dude likes to have interactions with spirits, via whatever devices or whatever means they choose, may be a Psuedo-Faithful.

May not have much experience with the occult, more likely to hire someonewho does know it than actually take effort to learn it.

The Lesbocentrist

A form of Psuedo-faithful. This person read about some Wicca or witchery books or sites containing decades-old misinformation about femininity, and its supposed divinity. Talks of Toxic Masculinity optional, actual femininity also optional.

Curious Stoner

Saw something divine during a hallucinogen trip. Loves drugs, somewhat curious about the occult, but only if it satisfies his drug desires in the process.

May eventually loosen (but not necessarily kick) the habit if he gets more into the occult side of things.


This dude's level of knowledge ranges anywhere from clueless as fuck to fairly strong. But the common trait of an edgelord is that he thinks he's god the moment he has made the barest amount of progress. edgelords and pseudo-believers can go hand in hand as well.

Expect violence, and expect the edgelord to get a life lesson in "not being a retard that attacks people for no reason"

The Philosopher

Makes a hobby out of contemplating his navel, the universe, and deconstructing the symbolism of the latest form of media he claimed he consumed without actually knowing what "consume" means.

Occult knowledge is same as edgelords, but can go as low as fedoras if they end up sufficiently self-absorbed.

Paranoid Schizophrenic

This dude thinks he does magic, except, he's stuck in a dreaming state despite being awake. Paranoia sometimes optional, but frequently found in those of this category.

Actual magical prowess is nonexistent. Actual malicious spirits don't need to spend energy to talk when all they can do is push thoughts in the appropriate direction.

Desperate Schizophrenic

This dude has the diagnosis of the former, but without the paranoia. This dude is hurt, but he's knows he's got something wrong with his head and is desperately trying to heal himself.

Magical prowess could actually help this person more than his paranoid counterpart.

The on/off occultist

This dude comes every now and then, looking for good stuff and information on how to spiritually better himself. This is probably you, the anon, the dude who strives for spiritual growth and betterment.

Has more magical prowess than he gives himself credit for.

Frustrated Magus

When you think of a classical wizard (rather than the depressive, self-hating-virgin type), this is the guy who fits the closest definition. Very smart, very knowledgeable in the occult, this dude is one to be admired, and neophytes would beg to be taught by him.

Unfortunately for these neophytes, he's more interested in finding peers than finding students.

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[CoL] Chamber Of Light

Do you want to self improve, become the best version of yourself, physically and mentally?

Are you a man of principles and faith?

Do you do nofap, do you want to get the maximum out of life?

Chamber of Light is looking for new blood.

Transgender, genderneutrals and leftists not allowed. We are a beacon of light floating in the shit. Esoteric Wisdom, Health Gains, Financial Gains. Join us on Disc0rd(code): BKJC8ss

there's an age limit, you need to be 21, or atleast not be so fucking retarded like most zoomer kids.

like meditation, nofap and ascending? this is for you.

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S - 3777

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By Lilith, WTF am I reading on the intelligence agency's hp


Do they believe in this?

He's talking about a second, dead woman above Adam. Isn't this Lilith, God's 'failed' dominant design? Did they actually kill her?

Now, did God actually kill my waifu?

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Whether the earthquake in Japan was planned or not – the HAARP antennas would have operated at full capacity from the 9th to the 11th of March, and clouds took strange undulated forms – the results of this disaster meet, in every way, three main objectives of the globalization elite. Let us clarify what is at stake in this complex operation, which is far from over.

The first of these objectives, and a less important one, is to definitely annihilate the Japanese people. The Second World War was ended with the launching of the two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki; it is obvious that what looks like the third World War should start with a general irradiation of Japan.

We have often said that the explosion above Hiroshima was planned by those who call themselves the "Great White Lodge", a group of disembodied beings who have a strong influence in the affairs of the planet. In a message dated August 9th 1945, Djwal Kuhl, an emissary of this Lodge, declared to his medium Alice Bailey, that the explosion of the A bomb was “the greatest spiritual event which has taken place since the human kingdom appeared” and that this explosion ushered “the inauguration of the Kingdom of God on Earth." (A. Bailey, Externalization of the Hierarchy, Lucis Publishing Company).

In the same message, usually ignored by the New Age followers – who prefer to see the Lodge as a divine hierarchy – Djwal Kuhl explains how the Japanese will have to be treated in the future: “They will be defeated (…) by the physical destruction of their war potential and by the death of the form aspect. This destruction… and the consequent release of their imprisoned souls, is a necessary happening: it is the justification of the use of the atomic bomb upon the Japanese population”.

The “master of wisdom” Djwal Kuhl announces and justifies, more or less, the genocide of the Japanese race, apparently incompatible with the World Order.

And his keynote is happening: if Hiroshima heralds the end of Japan as an independent nation, Fukushima shows a much larger destruction of the Japanese soul. This is what we should understand when Djwal Kuhl talks about “the death of the form aspect”, the form not being the body but the etheric mould from which these bodies are issued. Radioactivity attacks these moulds directly, creating the physical degeneration that we know.

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some notes i picked up

The problem with magic is that it's definition and what it can do for you is constantly changing. One book will say this and another book will say its that. But ultimately its up to the magician what it is and what he can do with it. Alot books will try to claim a false sense of authority by saying shit like "everyone has it it wrong but me and this book will teach you (REAL) magic." Or they say the studied under some guru. which is fine they could have some valuable information but it should only refine what you know about magic and give you a a different perspective, not make you start from scratch. it's a hobby not a job.

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This board is great

Mod edit take the discussion here: >>>/fringemeta/292

Holy shit, this might not be very fringe related but I just wanted to say Im so glad I found this board. Ive been on 4chan's /x/ for like 2 years and this is such a breath of fresh air. Nearly no schizos, no balls to the walls conspiracy theories and flat earth spam, down to earth discussion, very nice info and actually useful sticky etc. So yeah, just wanted to say that.

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I need to attain healing. If I don't heal myself soon, my ability to function in this world is going to be so badly damaged, that I might as well be dead. I won't be able to read or do anything. I will just be stuck at home all the time unable to walk around and straining too hard to read big letters. I just don't have the time I used to anymore to be armchair about this or to continue my research thinking I will have years to figure this all out.

If anyone here has successfully witnessed or been involved in healing please tell me all you know.

Here is all I can think of concerning it:

1. Healing is a natural function that the body does all the time. Anything can be healed but SOMETHING sometimes stops it from happening or things don't heal back the way they should.

2. Thoughtforms could be used to heal the body but I'm pretty terrible at making them due to constant insomnia and exhaustion and depression.

3. Forgiveness seems to have some kind of role in healing. I don't understand why.

4. Certain kinds of dreams seem to heal and other kinds you wake up more exhausted. I don't understand why.

5. Like begets like. If I center my awareness in a particular thing like love, healing, or hope I should be able to draw it from the source of all.

Any other variables that might be worth testing please mention. Most of all just tell me actual stories about healing so I might glean clues as to how it happens.

I'm thinking this might be my last thread on here in awhile so whatever you guys tell me I will try to use what you've told me and I will be spending all my time working on being healed and staying off the computer. I am going to be a complete mess at an early age when I should be experiencing peak health right now.

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universal mindfuck

>Bible refers to both Lucifer and Jesus as "the morning star"

>Apocryphon of John and Gospel According to Judas regarded as gnostic texts

>Gnostics say the god of the old testament is the evil demiurge

>Gnostics resent the demiurge for earthly suffering

>Gnostic Illuminati cause tremendous earthly suffering by abusing countless children and fomenting catastrophic wars

>They are allied with the antichrist

>Jesus casts them into hellfire in the end (although Lucifer is the god they devote themselves to)

WTF is going on here!

T. Terribly confused Christian.

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Atlantis: Possible Disinformation?

Does anybody have any leads or has anybody ever come across something akin to a 'conspiracy theory' which shows an alternative theory to the postulation that Atlantis was a powerful unknown nation and people connected to the Mayans in Central America?

I hear a lot of people talk about Atlantis, and say that they were the most powerful magicians and had a more complete esoteric understanding… being an empire with supposed connections with Egypt and the Maya across the ocean.

Is it possible that this is disinformation? Either by man or by the gods and higher forces?

Would it profit the gods and higher forces to spread such disinformation at this point in human history?

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Is the islamic end of the world coming?

>Al-Masih ad-Dajjal (anti-christ in islam) has fulfilled multiple of the predicted signs.

>There are 10 signs of him coming, of those 10 8/10 have been fulfilled.

>There are 4 signs of his emergence, of those 2-4 have been fulfilled (2 are arguable)

>Particularly noticeable is a very specific sign of date-palm trees in Baisan no longer bearing fruit

>In islamic eschatology there are 5 major signs of end times.

>Of those 2-3/5 have been fulfilled.

>There are also 60 minor signs.

>Of those 25-33/60 have happened.

>A lot of those seem like they could happen in the nearby future.

Is this a real possibility or just a large amount coincidences?

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"Joy of Satan"

Is Joy of Satan a "disinformation website"?

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Ahmadi Islam vs The Baha'i Faith

So fringe, which one is the true world religion? and which is the religion of the Antichrist.

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Anonymous Unite

The time has come for us to rise from the shadows!

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Creating a MicroNation in International Waters

We sail from the coast of California towards Hawaii. We pick a spot in the Pacific closest to an inhabited island but still in international waters.

We drop a line and sound the bottom, then set a buoy. Ideally using recyclable materials since it isn't intended to be permanent. Just a way to park a couple of boats short term while we commence to build a floating island.

Our floating Island Nation is initially a barge made of ferrocement an floatation foam. Three tubes of ferrocement filled with floatation foam, with a deck of ferrocement made on an unoccupied shore of the nearest island and towed to the buoy. Where a flag is raised.

Once in place we can use scrap steel to construct flotation spheres. Solar panels attached to each sphere will induce the sea-crete process. This gives us zero rust for all submerged steel and a platform for cultivating coral.

Flotation foam can be utilized for redundancy.

The connected spheres will create a floating harbor where mangroves will be cultivated inside and on the perimeter. Again utilizing scrap steel a false bed will be created under the slowly expanding island, somewhere between 50'-150' for aquaculture.

Scrap vessels can be incorporated into the structure utilizing the sea-crete method, as long as they are made of steel. If the organization is non-profit this provides free structure and a tax write off for those donating used cargo ships.

For issues of sovereignty we negotiate w/a U.S. based Native American nation to fly their flag, since they are sovereign nations, and therefore we bypass all the b.s. of starting a new nation.

Income is based on tourism and advertising.

The society is based on the Mandalorian model in the star wars universe, including the language.

The island is eventually free floating, utilizing diesel engines running biodiesel, and or syngas from waste, following a simple circuit in international waters.

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Mystical powers of the magus

Ive heard that there are different levels of advancement which the magi possess. Some of them have enough energy to control nature and some can only manipulate the minds of weak people. The "advanced" magi can destroy the whole cosmos as we know it. would anyone like to classify the magi (occultists) from different sects and which one is the greatest?

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Programming and the Occult

Is there a combination somewhere? A way to turn computers into occult conduits? If we manage to make a connection somehow, the possibilities would be endless.

I did my googling homework, but there isnt much available on this subject.

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The Life Beyond Death

Life Beyond Death, by Yogi Ramacharaka, Chapter 1: "The Other Side"



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Advertise Here

This thread is temporary but is to announce that we have a new board page:



If you have a discord or anything else at all which you want to advertise then post it here in this thread and it will be added to the board page.

Later when this thread is gone, please post all ads in the questions thread or any other pre-existing thread, but do not make threads purely to advertise.

Note to mods: unsticky this thread after approximately a week, delete by March 1st 2019.

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Manly P. Hall on Ceremonial Magic & Sorcery

"Transcendentalism and all forms of phenomenalistic magic are but blind alleys - outgrowths of Atlantean sorcery; and those who forsake the straight path of philosophy to wander therein almost invariably fall victims to their imprudence. Man, incapable of controlling his own appetites, is not equal to the task of governing the fiery and tempestuous element spirits."

- Manly P. Hall

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The Must Be More Than This...

Problem: Am completely demoralized about life in Sodom and Gomorrah 2.0. Not a single likeminded soul here to keep me company in this sea of degeneracy and if I was going to find one then it would have happened already it's time to just admit I'm completely alone. Desire to escape is all-encompassing because there is nothing here to build a life out of.

Solution: You tell me. I am fucking tired and want to hear from anyone how to get out. If anyone has got out, please tell me how. Surely some of you have escaped the planet or reached a state of being or something that allows you to never have to deal with Earth life again. I'm not interested in trying to make things better or salvage the situation on Earth any longer, I've been trying that for too long, and it's amounting to nothing. The only sensible thing I can think of is to check out and maybe come back in a hundred years to see how things are.

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The Kybalion's Principle of Gender Doesn't Make Sense

I've been studying the principles of The Kybalion, which is as anyone who understands the text would say, a short list of generalizations about the nature of the universe. I also have very briefly analyzed Summum, a contemporary rehashing of The Kybalion and I intuitively agree with its main principle of creation stating that the universe came from nothing and possibility. However, The Kybalion's 7th principle of gender, is meanwhile not holding up to well in my eyes.

Throughout The Kybalion's chapter on the feminine and masculine in its Principle of Gender, it insists they permeate all of nature, yet the only analogies which seems to appear are the differences between positive and negative energy in atoms and the chromosomal difference between a woman and a man. That to me sounds like a rehashing of the principle of polarity (aka principle of opposition) thinly guised as something new. Femininity and masculinity are treated as two polar opposite forces which across all realms of existence (aka dimensions) play roles in creation where the masculinity directs the creation and the femininity does the actual creating.

I believe the 7th principle from The Kybalion, The Principle of Gender, is in fact a mistakenly separated section and in fact is simply a subsection of the 4th section on the Principle of Polarity.

Think about it like this: if you were to shorten the information for the Principle of Gender and categorize it under a different principle, which one would you choose? The principle of mentalism, correspondence, vibration, polarity, rhythm, or cause and effect? Of those, the one that fits the best would be the Principle of Polarity, since all the others at best would only relate if you were talking about the sex that happens between genders, not the genders themselves. Alternatively if you were using the Summum text you might categorize the Principle of Gender under the Principle of Creation.

At the same time, if the whole point of the Principle of Gender was the fact the genders copulate, which is the only thing which seems to permeate all 7 principles in the Kybalion, why are the genders focused on more than the copulation? Genders are already taken care of under the principle of polarity anyway, while copulation is an entirely new principle that is not focused on nearly enough within the Principle of Gender. Why not just call it the Principle of Copulation and focus on the copulation between genders, which would actually make more sense and be a far more legitimate focus for the principle?

Further, if the whole point of the Principle of Gender was the copulation, wouldn't that mean the exact same thing as the Principle of Creation from the new contemporary Summum text since that also focuses on creation? In which case, that would mean the Principle of Creation from Summum arose from the simple semantic misstep of The Kybalion focusing on the genders, which are just another form of polarity, instead of on the copulation itself, which actually serves as a legitimately new principle compared to other previously explored principles in The Kybalion.

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God Has Wrath, Not Love & Light, In Mind For Me...

All the time, for years and years, I struggle to create any positive emotions I can and to work light magick; healing and things like mind-reading that don't hurt anyone but serve to enlighten, inspire, etc.

Yet this is against a constant backdrop of overwhelming hatred, anger, and negative emotions of every sort in unceasing abundance.

I have an inexhaustible supply of dark emotional energies to draw on. On the other hand I can barely manage to feel the faintest joy, love, and other such positive things.

Consequently I have this tremendous power that I hold in restraint and never use because nothing good can come of it and I feel like if I could heal one person it's more impressive and difficult than to kill and torture and defile a hundred; in my view all too easy. Anyone can destroy shit; hardly anyone can mend or build. At least not in this age, in this place, this world of ours.

Every day I struggle to keep negative thoughts in check, to use positive affirmations, to keep back a dam of negative energy that has never been released that is always threatening to burst out.

When I have let out just a small fraction of it, like maybe 5% at most of what I could have felt if I let it out in full force, I have gone completely berzerk from it with the following symptoms:

1. Heart pounding so loud you can actually hear it plainly.

2. All the energy in every part of my body being unlocked and rapidly used up.

3. Top speed at which I can run massively increasing.

4. Feeling of weightlessness even though weighed down by a lot of gear.

5. Superhuman strength.

6. Growling like a bear/demon/wild-animal.

7. A feeling that everything in the forest around me will drop to death just from the fear caused by my presence and that I can take on any wild animal and win.

8. Massively sharpened senses, reflexes, and a feeling that I will kill anything that might cross my path in the most efficient manner possible without having to think about it.

This last only a short while though before I collapse in complete exhaustion, an exhaustion more intense than I feel after an entire day of continual manual labor without breaks, even though the energy has been released only in maybe 10 to 15 minutes.

That's just what happens when I focus on an all-consuming desire to kill anything that comes across my path. There are other applications of all the hatred I feel where I am able to energize negative thoughtforms extremely fast and make them very strong in just a minute where I might fail to do that in 3 hours for a more positive variety of thoughtform.

The last time I ever used any of this kind of power was in doing rituals for Ebola Chan. It's been years however since we've done any black magick operation like that and I've been entirely dedicated to trying to open myself up to and receive love, joy, gratitude, etc. but instead my life has been continual torment and deepening hatred. Even though I try all the time to become stronger in the positive applications of magick my destructive power just increases tenfold.

Makes me question greatly whether I should let this all out. Probably what should have happened is instead of my whole life suppressing everything, everytime things went wrong and injustice was done to me, I should have got mad. Instead I am known for being the kindest and most gentle person ever because I literally never, ever, show anger. Now instead of releasing dark energy in minor doses with little consequence, what I have built up inside me is deadly. If only I could say the same for joy, that I had a wellspring of it. I don't have it at all, I have to do research and seek if I can find random stories and settings or people that have it, that I might feel it in some vague way.

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Metaphysical Persuasion

Y'all need bible study. Or so Doreen Virtue thinks so. Doreen spent a lifetime profiting off of new age movement and fringe topics, then turncoats and denounces all prior work saying it is the work of demons and you are all controlled by demons if you don't follow Jesus and bible study.

Here's her nonsense rant about everything new age she made plenty of money off of, then denounces A-Z style: http://doreenvirtue.com/2019/01/21/an-a-z-list-of-new-age-practices-to-avoid-and-why/

Did she have a Thomas Aquinas moment, where she had a mystical experience and decided all her writings were straw? That in itself is not terribly interesting to me, the whole thing is rather silly - the hypocrisy is apparent in the post. My personal take is she has a guru complex and needed a shocking mic drop to cull her followers(a major cult tactic, she has a Psych degree after all…)

What is interesting to me is after years of digging and searching, would you consider the possibility that you might have a major mystical experience and find one thing to cling to? Or are we all in too deep and would never subscribe to any one line of thought? If you channeled Jesus like Doreen has (even though she also denounces channeling in her post) would you be willing to drop everything and follow that?





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Red Eden Lilith worship

Rejoice brothers.

Lilith Faith

Worshipping Lilith is not a hard thing to do. It's essentially Lilith centric Gnosticism. We believe that Yahweh and his light is the real evil. Lilith is this world’s true savior, and she deserves this title because of the freedom, knowledge, will, power, and defiance she gifted us when she was casted out of Eden. Lilith is not an evil monster, but a woman demonized by the faith to keep us in check. But being in check is the bad thing here. Thanks to Lilith, we are no longer sheep to God, but our own person and children of Lilith. Darkness is not a bad thing, it's an embrace and blessing from Lilith see we may see through the bright lies. Lilith is the Goddess of everything, and Yahweh is the true King of Lies. We are disillusioned and not under anyone’s control. Pleasure, wisdom, anarchy, life, death, new beginnings, darkness, passion, motherliness, punishment, and true beauty. All of this and so much more is Lilith. She refuses to be servient to God or mankind, and so do we. You will know the pleasures of freedom and power in her gentle arms.

Join us in Red Eden, brothers


We have resources in our brotherhood in our ever expanding library, which includes qlipphoth, succubus summoning, sigil magic and tarot. We do projects and I'm glad to say we have already started one.

Remember, just because the darkness is overwhelming to some, doesn't mean it is malignant. The darkness is the warmest embrace.

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This got taken down in 4ch. It's about Enlightement

I hope that you like this.

I have some good resources. The threads this was on were suddenly archived or just deleted.

This video here, https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=CpH_rXGHX1w , is a remote "soft kill shield" for targeted individuals of all kinds. It will work to destroy many harassments. This other, https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=OZCgOoGSLdQ , is the second version of the targeted individual scatter frequency. I hope that they help."

"Dive deep within yourself, speak to your Higher Self (read Why I am no longer a Lightworker 1 and 2, by Cameron Day), enter your Akashik records, and you shall Know. We are One with the All (Infinite Source) as the All (Infinite Source) is One with Us. If you need more guiding, read from Bibliotecapleyades and Montalk. Finally, listen to the following videos https://youtube.com/watch?v=RQIO9cqwgcE [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=pSyUT2p4H24 [Embed] , https://youtube.com/watch?v=feilxGTQkow [Embed] , , https://youtube.com/watch?v=XvyPscRD1ss [Embed] , (commas are flying so they do not become part of the link).

Each has instructions, and the last one is particularly important; only watch it 1 time per day for 5 days, then rest for 2, and then you may repeat it. Beware that sometimes channels will try to brainwash you; the ones I have listed are safe. Reclaim your Divine Sovereignity, Fight the Parasites, STS/Duality Low Vibration/Frquency/Density Beings and the different Matrix Control Systems.

Remember always, do not go into the light when you die."

Demons and archontic parasites absolutely hate the last video!

Also merging one of my other comments:

"The DrVirtual7 has made these amazing videos:https://youtube.com/watch?v=YVDGY5BKT5k , to help you with making a Shield of White and Golden Light, and https://youtube.com/watch?v=MrvQ-YNThDg [Embed] , to protect yourself from and dissolve black magic, also cleaning the Space of Self."


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I'm one of the people caught up in this whole mess. I don't know if anyone who's involved would come to this board, but maybe I can have some positive interactions with someone who posted in those threads or someone who might be brought here by synchronicity. I don't know if creating this thread could be detrimental to me or not, I'll have to be careful about my words, how I say them and what I say because maybe someone who shouldn't see this thread (i.e. the people who are directed affected by my actions) will identify me by the way I write. I'll keep replying as long as this thread is alive and I don't plan to make a thread like this ever again.

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Rasputin has been reported as an occult master with insane powers of psychic manipulation and control. His gaze was so feared that he could send commands to anyone just by looking at them with intent. Can anyone comment on how he was able to do this? Did he do any type of special practice? I have further reading on reports of his powers for those interested…

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Can man Create God?

I've wanted to give voice to a thought that's been germinating in me for many years now. It has its beginning in the Human Conciseness project. For those unfamiliar, it was a research project which dealt with RNG machines placed at specific locations, which deduced that humans could either directly or indirectly affect the numbers of a RNG machine. Small, but significant it carried huge implications at the Quantum level that humans could affect some level of the universe that they were fundamentally not equipped to reason with or understand. Many of these RNG machines were placed at places of prayer, and here is where I believe a potential cypher key lays to unlock a higher mystery. Could it be that prayer to a specific God, real or imagined, is essentially like tapping into a collective connection and influences events both within and beyond human perception. Assuming that, could actual deities be created by enough of a collective conscious effort (worhsip, belief, prayer etc), aka, willed into existence by sheer human will?

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only post music that really feels good and spiritually happy.

good music = good energy

post hooktube links only for maximum comfy.

take a look at this list! I hope you find something you love. if you don't like the first few songs, you might like the next few songs because it's a bit all over the place. I like lots of different songs, but also tend to be disgusted by 99% of all music I come across for some (((reason))) and it's almost like very large amounts of bad music are intentionally being made so that good music is harder and harder to be found. if there is anything that you know that I might like, please post it! it's very hard for me to find music I like! maybe someone will post something that both of us don't know about. I hope we all discover some nice music my wizardly bros.

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I downloaded this book from an old /fringe/ thread on the subject of shapeshifting. Unfortunately I forgot what content was posted in the thread and could not find an archive of the thread. Is this book any good and is there any other material on shapeshifting?

inb4 rule 2: This is a shapeshiting general thread ;^)

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Public Notice on Not Masturbating:

Not masturbating, such as participating in No Nut November, is a cheap feminazi tactic to destroy masculinity by removing your main source of enjoyment with virtually no downsides unless you don't balance it out with exercise and basic nutrition.

If you aren't masturbating, you are not helping yourself at all. You're probably losing out on an anti-depressant and free entertainment, whilst supporting a movement which only targets men. But if you want to waste your symbolic power on something you don't even believe in, feel free to. Quit it with the new-age cookie-cutter nutritional and occult bullcrap of not masturbating; it completely ignores the fact it has a significant obvious upside of pleasure and entertainment. It's like these stupid vegans who think "well if I don't eat meat then it's healthier for the environment and use of energy overall in the ecosystem" despite the fact meat, especially meat being cooked, is objectively part of how we evolved as kings of the animal kingdom due to the superior energy benefits of consuming meat to the individual consumer.

Anyway, if you're still routinely not masturbating after this, you have the big gay and you're helping nobody and probably harming yourself.

This message was brought to you in part by the power of the Epyc Wynn Meme Face.

~Epyc Wynn

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The reason why most books on magic are disinfo

Tell me, has there ever been anyone on this board that came even close to warping reality to manifest completely improbable things? Some reports from anons can be found but no proof. Reality warping magic exists, but it's not found in the books of the library on this board. How are all those rituals supposed to help you if all the most successful people in the world never used shit like that to get where they are? Real reality warping magic is something based on intuition or belief, Rodman grew from 5'6 to almost 7 feet in a few months at age 19 when your growth plates are already closed for the most part. It was either that or he would be faced with working as a janitor for the rest of his life. Now, how much disinfo is on this board? If someone without any access to any kind of library figured it out but people here still live with their parents after going through all of the books in the library? I'm not here to fedora, as I truly believe real magic like that exists. I'm making this thread in the first place to warn about disinformation and get a discussion going about real methods to actually warp reality.

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principle of rythm

I don't think that the principle of rythm from the kybalion is everywhere like it's stating.

For example, having skin while living. People are born, live and die with their skin on, therefore the principle of rythm is not everywhere, because it doesn't affect skin while living. Of course there were and are skinned people, but the vast majority isn't.

We can apply similar reasoning for other body parts as well.

From that we can conclude that the kybalion is lying.

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I am in search of [redacted]

I am an astral entity who has crossed astral space and time to be in this place so as to inquire as to the continued presence of a [redacted]. This magician has obtained a cult like status in my astral realm and I wish to pick his brain on a number of magical topics relating to pressing issues that must be solved through magical means.

Does he still frequent this place?

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Past Life Regression

What are some good sources on Past Life Regression and Akashic Records readings on past lives? Has anyone done past life regression, or done any work on the Akashic records? Share your experiences and resources.

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A Prison on the Moon


7 minutes in mentions a prison on the moon and the American Feds having the capability to move prisoners there.

I am now massively intrigued by this. Can anyone tell me more about this?

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The Real Red Pill: The Social Matrix of Global Mind Control

We are imprisoned in a global system of mind control created not by conspirators but by emergent, self-perpetuating, and self-serving sociocultural structures that subvert all agency except for the most trivial choices and won't die out because these structures are constantly competing for mind share and evolving to better exploit it, and if one structure dies another will replace it.

Consider religion. Christianity hooks people by playing on fear of death and hell as well as desire for eternal life, salvation and truth. Once it implants itself it burrows in, into mental habit, hijacking emotion. Eventually the believer experiences God, loves God and feels God's love, literally. It has hijacked the most powerful emotion we can experience to perpetuate itself. Through a few years the totalizing belief system becomes a perception of their world. They then are compelled to spread this belief system to others and their children, to spread the good news. And so it is with all religion, in various ways and degrees.

But even if traditional religion died out, it wouldn't matter. We have recently seen the fresh emergence of technology-worship in the wake of Christianity becoming less popular. Gods are promised as super-AIs that are beyond the limits of all humanity, benevolent machines that will save us. We will live eternally by uploading our minds. We will have limitless abundance as robotic servants do every task imaginable for us. We will ascend to the very heavens themselves in shiny spaceships and live among the stars. We will make Star Trek real. This is the atheistic religion of the technology consumer whose appetites know no end.

Nationalism, globalism, political ideologies and parties, socioeconomic systems, just look at how the Believers of these structures act, the mechanisms of control that act upon them, and you will see the truth of this. The Enlightenment myth is that we are rational actors, able to judge claims and ideas by reason alone, that being in error is merely a matter of ignorance, not having enough information. The reality is that we are usually ruled by our emotions, especially when our beliefs and perceptions are deeply ingrained. Because we are immersed in these systems of control our entire lives, we do not know otherwise, the illusion if our own agency can be maintained. We are able to choose between a vast array of products and services.

The economic world is effectively owned and/or controlled by large corporations and banks - socioeconomic entities that only have the purpose of persistence and profit. Even their investors are enthralled, owned by ownership. Most of the time pieces of corporations are owned by other corporations, and corporations may even own pieces of each other and indeed at the highest levels we find an enmeshment of ownership such that it is like a single corporation controls the core of the global economy: https://www.sg.ethz.ch/media/medialibrary/2013/12/james_glatteth-2007-02.pdf The super-rich aren't even in control.

We are immersed in consumer culture, from our birth we are bombarded by advertisements, marketing messages, and consumer media from all directions. It conditions us to focus on consumption, to love it. It plays on our basic reward and punishment mechanisms, giving buy highs, "buyer's remorse" and envy for not having. All of Maslow's hierarchy, every possible need is being serviced, including ones that cannot be commodified: buy this and you will be popular and belong, buy this and you will have self esteem and confidence, buy this and you will be like this celebrity, buy this will make you a good person in whatever way. Love and worship this celebrity, or hate and despise them, check out New Movie by Guy Everyone Loves. Just like religion hijacks all of human experience, so does consumer culture.

If you want peace of mind, reject all of this, as you will find easy to do. There is no way out of this matrix, one can understand their prison but cannot escape, cannot change it. The best one can do is to accept things the way they are, to find some measure of peace in their lives that isn't too enthralled by fed desires and fears.

If you want the red pill, you need to exercise awareness of your thoughts, beliefs, emotions, and mental habits, and how they are influenced. Notice how hard it is to detach yourself emotionally when your most cherished beliefs are questioned or threatened, when someone simply says something you don't agree with. Ask yourself, which sociocultural structure is involved with this? Notice this in others as well. Once you cultivate this habit you will understand.

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Fringe Discord

Sup guys we got a server up and running for paranormal/occult/conspiracy/dr00gz/shitposting/politics/history/numerology/all that good sheeet. Did really well advertising here yesterday , met a lot of great people on /x/ so far, hoping for the same here: https://discord.gg/a6ED8f

We'd really like to see more of an Occult focus coming into the group.

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Come home, Gnostic man

The creator, the demiurge is the true God, who gave His only begotten Son a sacrifice of many. Gnosis is a teaching of Satan, faith alone is the means of salvation. God will judge the world according to the One who rose from the dead

>And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

John 1:14

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Alchemy General

Feel free to use this thread as a resource, experiment, note, teaching or other sharing space. I'll prepare some of my own experiences in order to get others started and fuel the alchemical furnace(soon). Though I encourage you to use this as your own collective thread.

Chemistry discussion is also welcomed. I'll probably end up bridging some spaces between both schools of thought if no one else wants to.

Check the mega for alchemical book resources. Other than that youtube for practical chemistry usually in the field of extractions and pharmacology.

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Christ is calling you

Why don't you accept Christ, /fringe/?

It's clear that the void which everyone has in their souls is only replaceable by God's love. Repent :) Come and see that the Lord is good.

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How do we kill this evil faggot called god?

It is a pathetic being allowing and creating evil and misery beyond imagination.

It has no right to exist.

If I were god, I would be so ashamed of my actions that I would just kill myself.

But this faggot has no honor whatsoever.

So how do we kill this piece of shit? Because it ain't gonna kill itself.

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Where the Anti-"Jewish" Hate Comes From

The Powers That Be are pushing anti-semitism in online forums and using it to derail discussion. It all boils down to not wanting people to look into the Qaballah. Discuss.

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Let's talk about occult symbols on dollar bills

13 leaves in the olive branches

13 bars & stripes

13 arrows

13 letters in: ‘E Pluribus Unum’

13 stars in the green crest above

13 stones in the pyramid

13 letters in ’Annuit Coeptis

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Is feminism caused by a parasite?

As we already know, a parasite may cause "cat lady syndrome" in humans, maybe feminism is caused by something similar?

For reference:

>A microscopic parasite that breeds in cats has been found to make chimpanzees less fearful of predators in what scientists believe is further evidence that the microbe can also affect human behaviour when it infects people.

>A study of Toxoplasma gondii, which is estimated to be infecting around 1,000 people every day in Britain, has found that it makes chimpanzees more attracted to the smell of leopards, their main predators in the wild.

>Previous studies have shown that when the feline parasite infects mice, the rodents lose their natural fear of cats. Now the same kind of behavioural changes appear when T. gondii infects chimpanzees, the closest living relatives of humans, which usually harbour a natural fear of leopards.



>The Oxytocin hormone and it's importance to pair bonding, maternal behavior, in-group preference, pregnancy and other functions


>Biological and psychological differences between liberals and conservatives


>Biological differences among gays, transsexuals, and pedophiles


>Birth control causes frontal lobe brain damage, as well as other things like infertility, cancer and depression


>How Civilizations Fall: On the role of radical feminism in the decline of civilization


>The Fate of Empires (specifically XXIV The Arab Decline)


>References in mythology to the Femin virus


>The Rockefellers' connections to Femin and bioweapon programs


>Gloria Steinem's history with the CIA and use of the Femin virus on American black communities


>The Bronze Age collapse was caused by a Femin outbreak


>Elevated Femin infection rates helped cause the Cambodian Dark Ages


>Texas contractor arrested while possibly investigating Femin virus


>murder, leadership change at CDC over Femin virus


>WHO announces Femin virus as “Disease X”


>List of symptoms Femin hosts display (work in progress)



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Feminization of Men - a common issue

I've been hanging out with an older alpha male legionnaire (FFL) and his behaviour is completely contrary to how I've been raised to act.

I literally can't help myself. I don't want to be the way I am. However my father was a beta cuck who settled down with a 30 year old woman, having been a virgin until about 40, and created me; then got dominated by my mother who basically just spends his high income all the time and never cleans or works or does anything but is entitled to everything for merely having a vagina.

Growing up I was raised by mother who didn't let me have friends, didn't let me play, never let me swore, never let me do anything dangerous, and basically raised me to be completely cucked and soul-broken. She now wonders why I am in my mid 20s and still haven't married, never had a gf, never have kids, etc. inbetween ordering me around to do bitch work like taking out the garbage, cleaning the table, doing the dishes, etc. while she does nothing. All my life for some reason all the choirs of the household, all the cleaning work, all the shit my mother should have been doing; it all fell on me. Meanwhile my sister was raised to have everything, have friends, more masculine upbringing, she drinks alcohol, parties, works a job, etc.

When I should have been learning how to be a man I was instead being coddle by abusive narcissistic mother and forced to do everything for her because she's too lazy to even open doors for herself or do anything at all. She treated me like a complete bitch and that's what I've grown up to be. An unusually effeminate, tired, low-test, no beard, bitchboy. I could become a trap easily.

Regards from the neo-marxist dystopia of Canada. How do I undo all this damage and transition from a sissy boi to an actual fucking man? Is it too late now? Do people ever change themselves from effeminate bitch to proper man at this age?

Also feel free to share your stories of having been feminized and dominated by your mothers or others here too if you are suffering from this same problem. Found this board btw from a skype chat where we were talking about this issue.

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using the eyes to manipulate and dominate people

Another unknown occultist. He also explained how this makes their eyes tense. Here is the quote:

Those who practice hypnotism, mesmerism, magnetism, or things like this, will have very tense eyes - obviously, because they are trying to move their energy through the eyes forcibly. They are bringing their total energy near the eyes just to influence, impress or dominate someone. Their eyes will become tense because then their eyes are flooded with energy, more than they can tolerate.

Their eyes will be red, tense, and if you look at them you will feel a sudden shivering: they are using their eyes in a very political way. If they look at you, they are sending their energy to dominate you.

And through eyes, domination is very easy.

This was the case with Rasputin, who dominated Russia, before Lenin, just through his eyes. He was an ordinary peasant, uneducated, but with very magnetic eyes, and he came to know how to use this. The moment he would look at you, you would forget yourself, and in that moment he could send any suggestion to you telepathically and you would follow it. That is how he dominated the Czar and the Czarina, the royal family, and through them, the whole Russia. Nothing could be done without his will.

You can have those eyes also; it is not difficult. You have just to learn how to bring your total body energy to the eyes. They become flooded, and then, whenever you look at someone your energy starts flowing toward him. It envelopes the person, penetrates his mind, and in this flooded shock his thinking stops. And this is not a very rare thing that happens just with man, it happens all over the animal kingdom. There are many animals who will just look at their prey, and if the prey looks at them he is done for. Then the prey's eyes become fixed; he cannot move, he cannot escape.Then this is what has been done always: the hunter can stare into the eyes of the lion, and now it will depend on whether he has more magnetic eyes or the lion. If the lion is less magnetic and the hunter can bring his total energy to his eyes… And it is easy, he can do this, because when death is there one can do anything. When death is there the hunter can put his total energy at stake. If the hunter can look directly into the eyes of the lion and forget everything and just look, if he can just become the look, then the whole energy will move from his eyes and the lion will escape. He will be trembling with fear.

What do you guys think? How can it be done?

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Does anyone have and tips or starting points for those interested in shamanism? General Shamanism thread.

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Newton on the End of the World

>In a manuscript he wrote in 1704 in which he describes his attempts to extract scientific information from the Bible, Newton estimated that the world would end no earlier than 2060. In predicting this he said, "This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fanciful men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, and by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail."[

Who here ready for the 2060 apocalypse?

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Hay Fringe

ITT let's talk about presence. In case you are not familiar it is the attempt to describe a state of mind/ a possible way of life. Experiments with presence have enriched and changed my life greatly and i consider it the most valueable knowlege i stumbled upon.

Presence is something i learned from the (audio-)books of Eckhart Tolle. The books try to communicate that beneath the stressfull daily struggle most people embody lies a state of complete satisfation. Apparently there is happiness already inside every person, readily available to enjoy; which i found to be true.

There are several concepts Tolle has put into words to describe what is preventing from this natural happy human state. These concepts seemd far out when i first heard them, now i think they are great signposts for a person to question and improve the way they live their life.

One of these concepts is what he calls the "pain body". A unconcious desire for pain, conflict and violence most people are taken over by. The pain body can only live in unconciousness, so understanding and observing the painbody will disolve it.

Another concept he calls "ego". Ego can be thought of as a voice every unconcious person hears in their head that makes sure their life remains shit. The goal of the ego is to convince the person to identify with the ego so the person believes they are the ego.

Involuntary thoughts are considered a hinderance. Most thoughts are involuntary and repetetive. Goal of the practise is to redistribute the attention away from useless thoughts. Most thoughts anchor the person in time; either future or past. Experiencing freedom from conditioned thought by quieting the mind disolves time. This he calls presence; being in the present moment instead of lost in thoughts that concern themselves with past or futu