Self-Determination is Greater Than God 07/30/19 (Tue) 18:56:49 No. 134034
Anybody who allows themselves to be controlled (in spiritual terms) by anything outside of themselves has committed a fault.
What is inside of us is greater than what is outside of us.
Our own will, and our ability to determine our own circumstances is greater than any conception of God. Even if God is real, if He is not doing the right thing then He should not receive any sort of place in our lives.
Do not be deceived, playing around with things greater than ourselves which we do not understand.
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07/30/19 (Tue) 19:02:01 No. 134036
For those of you who seek to be controlled by those forces outside of yourself, there is the decision to be submissive to those forces but remember that first it should be you who makes that choice.
Unless you have always been controlled by forces outside of yourself, and that just so happens to be going well for you, then whatever.
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07/30/19 (Tue) 19:03:27 No. 134037
What I am saying is that if you really want to do the right thing and make the right decisions then you should be doing so for yourself and not allow anything else (such as a Demiurge construct) to dictate reality to you.
It is better to die with honor than to live with injustice.
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07/31/19 (Wed) 06:04:10 No. 134100
The TRUTH! Let it lay bare, before it surely will get sullied
I have to say though, that the mechanisms for rewiring the self-circuitry to allow a greater cultivation of will, self-determination.
These mechanisms really should be explored, but such abstract concepts always were hard to pin down and define to allow any semblance of consistency in language…
It's not words per se (that I myself would use presently), but the metaphors and analogies themselves that show the truth. The macroscopic picture of the mechanisms of metaphysics (conceptualizations of God, like the holy trinity, or even the tree of life) show not only the greatest picture of the ALL but also the backdrop of the smallest picture of any ONE perspective…
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08/01/19 (Thu) 04:44:05 No. 134165
>>134034
Well God (actual God) isn't a created entity outside yourself - he or it is the Absolute, the single principle existence of everything. This is why "idolatery" was a sin in most ancient religions - worship of a created being, even a lesser diety (including the Demiurge) is always wrong. Your innermost will literally IS God manifested, in the ideal sense you aren't serving an entity outside yourself if you're doing it right.
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08/01/19 (Thu) 15:17:46 No. 134175
Well most of this is just false though, you wake up everyday and have to deal with shit that was put on you way beyond your control.
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08/01/19 (Thu) 15:28:59 No. 134176
>>134175
If you repress all your fucking memories from before the present moment, then yea you are absolutely giving up control over your life.
I get it, actually being able to remember all your actions would mean that you are actually responsible for your actions and this spiritual repression allows you to play this pathetic victim card
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08/01/19 (Thu) 15:37:41 No. 134179
>>134175
Is that referring to deterministic/existential things, or Divine things (i.e… things that have to deal with Creation)??
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08/01/19 (Thu) 15:54:10 No. 134187
>>134176
cringed, how many past lives do you remember?
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08/01/19 (Thu) 15:55:50 No. 134189
>>134187
That's not how this works
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08/01/19 (Thu) 15:57:43 No. 134190
>>134189
cringe and LARPpilled
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SAGE! 08/01/19 (Thu) 15:58:37 No. 134191
>>134190
you are really bad at shitposting, why don't you do something more useful with your time?
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08/01/19 (Thu) 16:00:33 No. 134192
>>134191
stop LARPing degenerate
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08/01/19 (Thu) 16:03:48 No. 134194
>>134192
Why do you think anyone owes you an explanation? Fuck off with your worthless existence
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08/01/19 (Thu) 16:11:13 No. 134195
>>134175
>HURR DURR I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT
>I VOLUNTARILY GIVE UP MY CONTROL BUT STILL PRETEND TO NOT KNOW WHY I CONTINUE TO SUFFER
disgrace
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08/01/19 (Thu) 16:13:08 No. 134196
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08/01/19 (Thu) 16:16:37 No. 134197
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08/01/19 (Thu) 16:18:09 No. 134198
>>134187
The notion of past lives actually has zero influence on the circumstances of a present life
try to stop being retarded
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08/01/19 (Thu) 20:26:49 No. 134222
guys why le trolling in my thread?
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08/01/19 (Thu) 20:29:25 No. 134224
>>134222
Well this single post derailed the thread
>>134175
You tell me, Mr. OP. How to deal with mundanes that can't handle esoteric concepts? Like I said, you cannot lay bare the truth and expect it not to get sullied.
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08/01/19 (Thu) 20:32:34 No. 134225
In your unprofessional opinion, what is the difference between stoicism and cynicism? I consider them more like attitudes, and consider my philosophy itself to be derived from some neoplatonism.
If cynicism is to give up on society, because there is no hope to ending the convolution of the simple fundamentals, is stoicism like 'everything is fine just be calm and practical' or what?
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08/01/19 (Thu) 21:05:50 No. 134228
I can never be a cynic because I respect my own capacity of self determination. However I do consider myself cynically optimistic, as I know that no matter how corrupt humanity's understanding of the fundamentals are, it's not actually over until it's over.
And if all you have any self respect, you all would cultivate that capacity to make your own decisions. Agency is a precious thing; it's the greatest power, it's the only power, and everything wrong in your life is because you didn't use your power of agency.
Agency requires responsibility, which requires maturity. It's not for kids
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08/01/19 (Thu) 21:23:15 No. 134231
What if I let myself be influenced and my life manipulated by Moloch?
He is a pretty cool dude once you get to know him. I'm glad I let my life path be changed by him.
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08/01/19 (Thu) 21:32:59 No. 134232
>>134231
wHAT IS THE POint of your existence? To be a slave?
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08/02/19 (Fri) 02:10:01 No. 134258
>>134100
there is a lot of decentralized and local research and revelations that you will never find in humanity's 'pop culture' but which are everywhere and which are all around us…if i may quote Hume…"many of humanity's greatest minds"…
i applaud you for saying…
>"…the mechanisms for rewiring the self-circuitry to allow a greater cultivation of will, self determination."
I don't know too much about 'metaphors' and 'anologies' but perhaps you could say that I believe "Creation speaks for itself".
I think you are on to something with this post, anon.
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08/02/19 (Fri) 02:13:14 No. 134259
>>134165
I would like to say the same for this anon, but the previous anon before you in this thread did not make as grand a claim and had a more subjective revelation to expound.
Ty, for your weak vain attempt at philosophy, mortal.
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08/02/19 (Fri) 02:16:05 No. 134260
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08/02/19 (Fri) 02:18:34 No. 134261
>>134224
What is it about the nature of 'truth' which causes for it being 'sullied'?
Is this some sort of wiring in the universe, desu?
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08/02/19 (Fri) 02:22:20 No. 134262
>>134225
wish i knew more about the stoics, gosh
Marcus Aurelius surely would not simply give up on Rome, rite? i think a friend one time ( a real stoic…a person who devoted himself to that philosophy in a really intimate way) once tried to describe stoicism to me as….
>"Separating yourself from the issue, or from the world….so as to be able to make better decisions."
??? I might be wrong. So embarassing.
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08/02/19 (Fri) 02:26:00 No. 134263
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08/02/19 (Fri) 02:28:01 No. 134264
I am OP, I actually regress on the original point of this thread. I don't think that I can claim that anything about is is greater than God. That is simply how I felt when I made the thread.
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08/02/19 (Fri) 03:15:03 No. 134271
>>134264
Dude, Self-Determination IS God
God gave us free will, and has actually never violated, contrary to what people may think
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08/02/19 (Fri) 12:44:11 No. 134294
>>134271
No one has as much free will god(and arguably there is no free will at all).
Why would people choose to be incarnated into terrible life conditions.
This thread is just total gobbledygook
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08/02/19 (Fri) 12:44:37 No. 134295
>>134294
No one has as much free will as god*
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08/02/19 (Fri) 15:53:16 No. 134302
>>134294
>No one has as much free will god
Thank yo for proving my point. Self-Determination IS God
>Why would people choose to be incarnated into terrible life conditions.
Why don't they immediately suicide? Why is there even any drive to live?
Deep down they know there's a reason Some do kill themselves, but if it really was meaningless, there would be no humanity
>>134295
No one has as much responsibility as God. God gives the free will to those who ask for it
To those who accept responsibility, to those who are actually mature enough to accept the gamble they decided to play of incarnating in this realm
They are the ones that accept their right and duty as children of God and then therefore get the pleasure of control, agency. free will. etc.
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08/02/19 (Fri) 16:08:25 No. 134306
>>134302
This concept of god as some entity that has responsibilities and morality is one of the most retarded ideas in spirituality circles.
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08/02/19 (Fri) 16:24:20 No. 134310
>>134306
[citation needed]
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08/02/19 (Fri) 17:09:32 No. 134311
>>134306
How do you think the universe was created?
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