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17ecb5  No.384[Last 50 Posts]

This thread will be dedicated to the practical learning of basic esoteric skills.

As it seems people inexperienced with the occult are now finding this board, it is necessary to provide help towards the development of a stable foundation in their practice. Since occult theory is discussed to great lengths in other threads, we require a place of practice.

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17ecb5  No.385

File: 3c767d923dfda48⋯.jpg (224.01 KB, 563x800, 563:800, 6a9PAnb.jpg)

Exercise 1: Basic Energy Manipulation

Visualize your own body. Close your eyes, and picture your body, exactly in the position you're in. Stretch out your hands, move a bit, and picture your body executing those movements. Clench and relax your fist, and watch your mental fingers do the same, at the same time. Now, take a closer look at your visualized body. Picture a stream of vapour coursing through your arms, your legs, upwards and downwards along your torso, and into your head. Examine how this energy is moving, and try to feel the streams of energy as they rush along their course.

This is your energy body, made up of vital, or etheric energy, which exists in a transitional state between the physical and astral. Time and space occur almost as in the physical world, though distance is largely relative.

Having a feel for this energy, try moving it into one of your extremities. Force the energy into, for example, your right hand. Concentrate a fair bit of energy there. Observe what this feels like. Once you've held the energy there for a small amount of time, try pushing it further along, into your fingers, concentrating it even more. Does this feel any different?

Finally, push the energy into the tips of your fingers, as much as possible. Hold it for a couple of seconds.

As soon as you're ready to move on, force the energy through the tips of your fingers, into the outside world. Do your best to roughly hold it in front of you as you do this. Continue pushing the energy out until the full concentration you had there is in front of you. Attempt to move this energy a bit, in various directions. See how it responds. Move it around you, disperse it, pull it back together.

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17ecb5  No.386

File: 962329eed09f320⋯.jpg (685.03 KB, 950x1205, 190:241, LE-CHEF-DORCHESTRE.jpg)

With this step explored, now try to compact the energy again, into a sphere, in front of you. Try to make it fairly small and concentrated, if you can get it slightly smaller than a basketball, that will be perfect. Focus on solidifying the sphere, with the intent of keeping its integrity without your attention. When ready, let go of this energy, and observe how well it stays together. Does is start unraveling immediately? Does it hold out for a dozen seconds or so? Perhaps it maintains itself without change to the point that you get carried away and forget about it, and only hours later you notice it is gone. The result largely depends on your power of concentration, subconscious control, and other factors, so it will vary quite a bit depending on your studies and profession throughout life. Despite this, the result doesn't matter much, as all these will be improved with practice.

If the sphere doesn't hold its shape for more than 20 seconds, keep repeating the same exercise over the next day or so, until it maintains itself for this long.

Once it resists for those 20 seconds, it will last enough to observe the results of basic programming. Programming energy is simply creating subconscious thought processes which manage its behaviour. At first, these will be purely mental, and you will notice that with loss of focus, any effects will cease within minutes. With practice, not only can these processes persist for days and months within your subconscious, but they can also be crystallized within reality itself, persisting as the energy does. A subconscious process is a servitor, or daemon. A crystallized one is a construct.

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17ecb5  No.387

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Build your energy sphere again, but this time with a very specific intent, imagine the intended behaviour of the energy, perhaps even word it out mentally. There are more advanced processes for this, which come naturally through practice. In order to observe the effect of this, build this sphere to, for example, move around you until told otherwise. Once the sphere is fully formed, mentally signal it to begin its behaviour. Observe how well it behaves. If it doesn't behave quite right, simply keep repeating the exercise, closely examining the process and outcome every time. This trains multiple faculties, including concentration, subconscious control, willpower, and external perception.

Once the program behaves correctly, build it to perform more advanced functions. Perhaps it could move in random directions, or bump into people to get their attention. Things like lowering or raising the perceived temperature of a space are also possible, though it would be best to limit the effect to the physical space within the sphere at first.

With this last step, you have gained a grasp of basic energy manipulation, which will become an important tool for you in the future. It is such a diverse and foundamental skill, that it wouldn't be strange for you to play around with various ideas and projects every day. This will give you a better sense of the possibilities and limitations of this practice, and also develop important mental faculties.

The next step is also vital to your safe practice of this skill, and should be learned ideally before any further experimentation, as it can prevent and mitigate accidents and imbalances that come about through practice.

The steps beyond that will simply build upon your already existing competence to develop energy manipulation into a more useful ability.

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1c8b38  No.388

I think telepathy is one of the most useful skills one can get and is a important topic even for beginners. Let's just learn telepathy together. In the vampire threads someone posted about seperating voices in your head into different parts of the brain but I still don't get it. Like your thoughts appear in the right brain side and incoming telepathic toughts in the left brain side or something like that. Seems like massive nonsense tbh, toughts are just there, I don't feel them in any side of the brain. The telepathy sigil doesn't do anything either but I really want to obtain telepathy.

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ddd1fb  No.390

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Great thread anon. Because it fits the nature of this thread I was wondering what you think of Energy Work by Robert Bruce on this topic?

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ed145f  No.391

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Newfag from the other thread here. I was wondering if the energy might be observable on video like in the pic? I remember hearing from my ghosthunting days that these balls of energy could be replicated in labs and are not spirits themselves. Might something like that be visible with a camera or is it a different kind of energy?

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819f23  No.392

>>388

“Telepathy” is a very misleading term. Most people won’t sense words, at least at first, and some might even receive information in the form of bodily sensations. It’s a way of receiving information via synesthesia. You can call it telepathy when the information comes from another being, but it’s really scrying in general terms.

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c6cf97  No.394

>>388

>The telepathy sigil doesn't do anything either

The sigil itself doesn't do anything, but the spell linked to it does. There's also a bracelet. If you can't access them by the sigil your problems lies there, not on the sigil not working. If treated as an artifact, spells tend to look like scrolls, but this one just activates by request. It doesn't do anything until you give it a target to call though.

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e080f0  No.414

File: 0cdb6ae043bb11c⋯.jpg (253.87 KB, 600x863, 600:863, impact.jpg)

Exercise 2: Grounding

After practicing energy manipulation for the first time, you might already be feeling the effects of an imbalanced energy body. Since most of your etheric organs have never been actively used before, suddenly placing a lot of stress on them (as is the case with energy work) will lead to various issues, such as strained meridians, disharmonized energy centres, and overworked chackras. All of these will manifest themselves in various ways, but common problems from sustained energy use are headaches, disorientation, nausea, and pain in the abdominal and sacral areas.

These problems do pass away on their own, but this often takes days of recuperation, in which energy work must be avoided. A quicker, and more convenient way to deal with this is through "grounding." Grounding, as the name implies, uses the Earth's capacity for energy filtration to re-balance your etheric body, much in the way water is filtered by passing through layers of soil and rock.

For many, it becomes part of their daily routine, as a form of dealing with energy pollution, and some will ground themselves at all times, with every step they walk.

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e080f0  No.415

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The explanation, in truth, is more complex than the exercise itself.

Visualize your energy body, as you did before, and actively feel the energy coursing through it. Once again move your energy into your extremities, but, this time, instead of your arms, push it into your legs.

Compress the energy downwards, until fully saturated, then push it through your feet, into the ground below. At the same time, pull in energy from your surroundings into your torso. Form this into a flowing cycle, with the energy entering your body going smoothly donwards, and into the Earth.

As you do this, you will notice an improvement in any symptoms you have been experiencing.

It is good practice to ground yourself regularly, and after intense efforts, though with time and practice you may notice your body can deal with a lot more strain before it suffers any imbalance. For some, they rarely if ever need to ground after a few years of practice.

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726fc9  No.418

>>391

Not saying it's impossible but I believe I never saw a legit photo or video of this stuff and I also find that when you see orbs or energy yourself it appears very different and appears only in your own vision through your third eye. Those videos and pics are so obviously fake that they make me laugh and everyone who tries to sell this shit to you and convince you of something is bound to be full of shit themselves too. Again I don't wanna hold the position that it's impossible but I am confident that it'll never happen and all you will find on videos on photos is fake. Kinda a paradox but whatever.

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418fba  No.444

File: dc153adb4305ead⋯.pdf (1.91 MB, The Book of Knowledge - Un….pdf)

Newfag here. I stumbled upon the book of knowledge by anonymous, and I was wondering if it was a decent guide. I browsed through it and I found it spoke well of the ARVARI program, so I thought it was just viral marketing for it.

Also, how many hours a day should I dedicate to practicing? How long it took you guys to develop some tangible skills?

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bfd648  No.445

>>444

That book is a mixed bag. There is no harm in following it. You'll see some things work, others not so much. It's the same with everything.

>how many hours a day should I dedicate to practicing

As many as you can before you get into diminishing returns. You also need downtime to integrate whatever you practice. Same as with learning a language or training at the gym. Trust your instincts.

>How long it took you guys to develop some tangible skills?

3-5 years before I could manifest whatever I want consistently as long as it doesn't run against my fate. Around year 4 I began getting confident in my astral perception skills. I usually don't meditate or do any practice for more than 10 to 20 minutes a day. Some days I do up to an hour. I think it's much more important to be consistent than to grind for hours at a time and get burnt out or bored, unless you can grind for hours consistently and not drop out (same as with physical training).

Also if you decide to work with spirits, be careful not to end up paying someone to lift your weights. That's a shit substitute for training.

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e19697  No.475

File: cb8b761315d6213⋯.png (206.5 KB, 568x668, 142:167, OPUS_102b.png)

Exercise 3: Energy programming foundations

You've already covered the very basics of this step in the first exercise, but, you'll now find out that energy can be imbued with very complex structures, achieving detailed and precise actions, based on your understanding and intent.

The energy ball you've created as the last step of the first exercise showcases the most distilled function of energy manipulation: control, or, in the case of such a mental action, discipline. The end result, which I usually call a "construct", is nothing more than the crystallized intent to hold energy in a particular shape, and move it in a particular way. The energy could be changed to anyone's or anything's, and the construct would stay the same. It is the non-spatial, semi-temporal intent projected into the mental plane, which forms the actual "essence", or soul of the construct. As the intent starts to dissipate, the energy it controls loses coherence, and slowly fades away.

It is not a lack of energy which ends this construct, but the dissipation of will and intent. Whenever a steady supply of extra energy is required, such as for constructs which channel energy into certain effects, such as changing the temperature of spaces, or affecting a person's vital energy, extra energy can be programmed to be collected from the surrounding space, as there is always energy flowing about, or from living things, which provide a steadier source of power.

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e19697  No.476

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As your mental presence and intensity strengthen, you will be able to control more energy, to a higher intensity of action, and achieve greater effects. With proper care and cultivation, your vital and ethereal bodies will also be able to fulfill your intent to a higher degree.

The greatest advantage, though, is that with enough growth in the mental faculties, as well as meditation and understanding of metaphysics, it becomes possible to crystallize intent which lasts for years, decades, and centuries.

It is to that effect that the third exercise is nothing more than the regular creation and use of constructs.

At this stage, you have the basic necessities to create basic working constructs, with the proper application of will and intent, and it remains up to you to choose the challenges which will drive their further development. Play around with energy, program it in different ways, observe the effects, and seek improvement.

A dozen minutes a day is more than plenty of practice, so look to maximize the outcome of effort, not the input.

On average, 4 to 5 years is the amount of time required to reach competence, though this certainly varies with aptitude and prior development.

This third exercise marks the end of energy manipulation. Once you are comfortable with your grasp of programming and control, you can begin moving towards more advanced and specific regions of practice, where your dilligence so far will be fully rewarded. A couple of weeks are recommended as a minimum.

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e19697  No.477

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Exercise 4: Authority projection and subplanar cracking

With the very basics of personal internal operation taken care of, you, the initiate, can begin exerting your existential sovereignty over a local space, as well as blurring the border between the Universal Absolute, which is Being, and yourself.

Profound meditation will reveal that your Mind is built the same way as the Universal Mind, consisting of an Existential Absolute, and the principle of Chaos, which contrast with one another to create an ever-changing, yet never-ending stream of progressively lower and more concrete forms and ideas. In effect, the Mind, your Mind, is God, if not in substance, then in operation, or Grace. It reflects the perfect foundamentals of existence and creation, shining its own creative light over the various levels of the world. Largely, your own unconscious thought already defines the world around you to an extent, incoherent and unproductive as that extent is. Your expectations and subconscious programming work together to shape your world.

It is at this stage that, understanding the function and nature of the Mind, you are ready to begin to form a conscious awareness, projecting its Authority, and envelop your own relative space, shifting it away from the baseline reality.

For the first half of this exercise, focus all of your attention on your own existence, on the passage of time, on being mentally present. Set a chronometer down, and try to maintain this state for as long as possible. You will likely notice that after only a minute or two, your mind strains to keep up that level of exertion, and drifts away into unsconscious thought. You will now have to realize that even in this state, most of the actuality of your existence, of the passage of time, and of your own presence, is not acknowledged. You cannot even achieve a basic Awareness. With even a little daily practice, you will see your level of Awareness improve to an astounding degree. This Awareness is essentially the voluntary action of you Mind, and carries the fire and fury of your soul. Even looking at a person or object, with full attention and presence, strikes it with a piercing flame. This is why you can feel when someone is staring at you, and why simply acknowledging an object changes it.

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e19697  No.478

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This Awareness, when turned towards your own individual control of the local space, becomes Authority, and the greater the power of your conscious presence is, so is the degree to which you can dictate reality, in your percieved space.

With cultivation of this control, you can begin slowly changing the operations of reality around you. You may stop heat from burning you, blades from piercing you, or any threat from harming you. By slowly developing your perception of reality towards these goals, with the help of your previously developed energy manipulation, you can define your own "bubble" of subjective space to behave by different laws than everyone else's.

With practice, your own presence of mind will be enough to enforce your perceived reality over that of other people's, but even without years of practice, you can help things alone by slowly shifting others' perceptions as well. This can be done through limited displays of physical or nonphysical feats, until any doubt of their reality is erased from the world, or through either subliminal control or conscious override, which are fairly advanced telepathic techniques.

With this voluntary exercise covered, its involuntary counterpart, reality merging, is next.

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e19697  No.479

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Exercise 5: Reality merger

Having grasped your own Awareness, Consciousness, and Authority, it is time to achieve the next step towards existential sovereignty.

Now that you've fully taken hold of your immediate reality and separated it from the world at large, it is time to do away with the false dialectic, the distinction between "other" and "I". Just as the Universal Principle, Being, contains and is contained in every thing and form, having complete sentience of and control over everything, so is your Foundamental Principle, the divine Mind.

This exercise consists of deep meditation and intense observation, directed towards perceiving the world around you as an extension of yourself. For however long it takes, you need to recognize any thoughts which perpetuate that false dialectic, and forget any difference between the operations of your consciousness, and the operations of the world. Tune your awareness to the world around you, as you tune the world around you to your awareness.

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e19697  No.480

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In order to expediate the process, you'll want to take certain efforts in addition to your meditation. Perform moral and immoral actions of varying severity, observing their nature in relation to the Absolute. Observe the subjectivity of their nature, and their dependence on your conscious perception of them. Morality is an extension of Yourself upon the world. Ethics are an extension of God upon the world. Help out at a charity, then get high and visit a brothel. Strive towards the peaks of sinceirty and benevolence, then dive into the darkest depths of degeneracy. Between those two, and with constant Awareness, the individual "I" slowly dies, and is consolidated into a whole animal being.

This process excludes the development of a soul. Masturbation, as well as tantric cultivation, should be practiced according to your vitality, developing the infernal and superior minds.

After an appropriate period of development in this exercise, clairvoyance will become the norm in your daily life, all events approaching with an immediate synchronicity. The synchronicity goes both ways, and reality will start naturally gravitating towards your goals and desires with no effort or resistance. At this point, a comfortable life can be maintained without any voluntary effort, and such will provide a stable platform on which to work on further developing these wonderful skills.

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726fc9  No.481

>>479

>>480

>>386

Do those pics with the lovecraftian-like beings have any relation to the posts? The beings depicted in it look like giant disgusting astral larvae. Or maybe they're aliens or even archons since UFOs are in one of the pics too but either way it looks like they feed on the (possibly enslaved) humans.

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005a0d  No.482

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Exercise 6: Vital energy control and bio-hacking

If you've followed the exercises up to this point, you've likely tried programming energy to help with certain vital functions of your own, such as maintaining a clarity of mind, boosting wakefulness and energy, and perhaps even improving physical strength and resilience. All of these are possible to achieve to wildly varying degrees of success, based on your skill and development in basic energy manipulation. The problem here is that basic energy manipulation is based on mental forms and structures, which descend down the chain of emanation several steps before manifesting physically. As such, any influence you manifest may vary in its specific characteristics, and focused results will take a lot of concentration and mental stability.

In order to more effectively and accurately work at a biological level, we need to develop an ability to directly manipulate and control the vital body, which can be thought of as the semi-energetic, semi-physical superimage of the physical body. Wherever cells and organs are working, they will have an energetic counterpart performing the non-physical functions of that specific component. Chemistry can only take you so far, and life has evolved past it.

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005a0d  No.483

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The vital body, composed of life force, is much closer to the physical plane in terms of frequency of vibration. It is a largely viscous, resistant substance, and it cannot be controlled as freely as the ether. Mostly for the better, as well, since messing up here has immediate, direct, and dire consequences on the physical body. While a witch may use curses, the magician can harm another by simply grasping their vital energy, and displacing it even slightly.

Conversely, it is also entirely possible to heal and improve the body by working with this substance, by gently and precisely adjusting it into the form and function you wish to achieve. For a cut, you would stimulate the surrounding life force with etheric energy, then push it to expand itself into the sliced area, enveloping and filling it back. The physical cells will follow this same pattern, and, using the transmuted energy, replicate and close the wound in seconds.

Increasing and governing the growth of your muscles is also fully possible, and advanced practitioners can change their bodies overnight, at will. Note that abuse of this has heavy implications on your own mental and spiritual health. If you push things out of balance, that disharmony will spread to all levels of your being, which are supported by the body. You may at this point erase any thought of changing your body to be closer to that of the opposite sex, since I'm convinced beyond doubt someone will try it, given the site I'm posting this to. Don't. There's a reason you are the way you are.

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005a0d  No.484

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For an exercise in developing your control over this force, visualize a viscous fluid superimposed over your physical body. Feel its low vibrations compared to the etheric energy you've been using until now. Pinpoint your focus on the life force covering your left hand. Just the unconscious influence you exert through your attention should cause physical disconfort and pain. Once you've managed to get this response, stop at once. Any further experiment on your body wil have to be placed on hold until you can reliably control life force without disharmonizing it or harming the body.

Get a lab rat, or alternatively a houseplant, and practice your control on its life force. Try to induce targeted growth in specific areas. Make a small incision in the skin of the plant or animal, then try to close it as quickly as possible. Do this until you can reliably achieve your intented effect, and only then even think about using this on yourself.

A good control of this skill will allow near immunity to burns from temperatures under 200 degrees Celsius, and a good way to test it is to immerse a fingertip in hot, bubbling cooking oil, and see how long it takes until the heat starts to hurt you. Even five seconds is enough freak out an uninitiated person, and reaching into boiling water is another way to shift people's perception of you into a larger-than-life, supernatural image.

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005a0d  No.485

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File: e7cfb76631de4d6⋯.jpg (447.48 KB, 1205x700, 241:140, Les_voleurs_de_cadavres.jpg)

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>>481

The beings depicted represent the unseen world, the many levels of existence concurrent to our own, which do not follow the same laws as the physical plane. The abstract, ever-changing, chaotic nature of these upper worlds is depicted as monsters, the traditional symbol of change and synthesis. You will notice that some are feeding on the people, others are influencing them. Some are obeying them, and many simply make up the landscape and architecture. You can see here the many different levels of reality and their inhabitants depicted in a single form.

The paintings, I believe, are meant to represent Atlantis, most likely from an inspired vision of the author. The saucers were a form of private space travel, and the ones seen in these pictures are likely just shuttles used to get to orbital and lunar stations.

The beings depicted definitely aren't the masters of the people. You can see them obeying fearfully as the Magician/Conductor waves his wand, in the The Chief of the Orchestra, second post of the first exercise.

They're also depicted working in parallel with humans, at a similar level. What's most striking about the paintings is the way it makes the humans look more monstrous than the monsters surrounding them.

You can see some people directly interacting and seeing the monsters, while others are entirely oblivious. That is another hint.

Pics related.

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c6cf97  No.486

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>>479

>it is time to do away with the false dialectic, the distinction between "other" and "I"

>>480

>Morality is an extension of Yourself upon the world. Ethics are an extension of God upon the world. Help out at a charity, then get high and visit a brothel. Strive towards the peaks of sinceirty and benevolence, then dive into the darkest depths of degeneracy. Between those two, and with constant Awareness, the individual "I" slowly dies, and is consolidated into a whole animal being.

This thread is turning into one of those manuals telling you how to create mustard gas to summon fairies in your kitchen. It does create mustard gas and you may meet the fairies, but there's something they aren't telling you.

Plato called the kind of person this produces the democratic man, the lowest form of life. I'll post The Republic in the library thread for those who want to see what I mean.

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005a0d  No.488

File: e72ce9068ada8c8⋯.jpg (96.39 KB, 515x265, 103:53, soreq1.jpg)

Exercise 7: Mind reading

This next exercise focuses entirely on the mental plane. You may have noticed by this point that your mind is a physical space, within your imagination there is a certain "emptiness", void, darkness, or empty space, which serves as the vehicle for thought. You already know that there is a mental plane which can be influenced with external thoughts. You will now learn that your very own imagination, or internal mind space, is simply a bubble in this mental plane, somewhat like a pocket dimension, and is affected by, and affects the surrounding space. That much should be obvious, since even your unintentional thoughts have an impact on the world around you. This is crucial, since it means the mind can be accessed from without, as from within.

It is best to practice with willing and eager training partners here. You'll find that random, uninitiated occult Discord servers are filled to the brim with people easily impressed by the simplest supernatural actions. By going into such a place, and offering free "soul scans", "mind readings", and the such, you'll obtain for yourself the perfect test subject.

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005a0d  No.489

File: 248b711fef55fc7⋯.jpg (143.7 KB, 435x288, 145:96, soreq.jpg)

For the most basic form of mind reading, enter a trance state, and let your mind settle into stillness as deeply as you can. With that achieved, reach out towards your subject's energy, which is that same immaterial vibration contained in their typed words and sentences. Reach towards that mass of constantly revolving thoughts, that unitary entity of opposites, and simply observe what appears before you. The mind subconsciously goes through and projects its most significant ideas, memories, and beliefs, on its own. Simply observing without any action will tell you almost everything you need to know about a person. Everything from their mental state, sanity, and coherence, to their childhood traumas, family situation, goals and ambitions, and personal outlook on the world, will make themselves known to you.

Some folks keep a personal motto to motivate them and remind them of their ambitions and goals. Typing out this phrase to your subject will offer you some quality entertainment, and they will likewise make it very clear if your readings are correct. If you've practiced the previous exercises up to this point, you can expect good results from the very start.

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c6cf97  No.490

>>485

>You can see some people directly interacting and seeing the monsters, while others are entirely oblivious. That is another hint.

Google, facebook, tencent…

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005a0d  No.491

File: 42a0fc6b4fa7c3c⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 433.92 KB, 995x554, 995:554, soreq_accident.jpg)

>>486

>there's something they aren't telling you

I should make it clear that the techniques posted here are meant to avoid the full usage of tantra, and the realization or destruction of the soul.

Since sexual transmutation is ommited, the side effects of sexual depletion are used to reinforce and empower the animal mind, and unreasonable instinct. The point of this is to achieve a working grasp of magic and the occult, as well as develop a tenebrous false immortality, from which the practitioner can choose to continue into either right-hand, or left-hand practices.

The exercises posted here do result in the formation of a near "husk", but not to the point where forming a soul becomes impossible. I'd post right-hand techniques, but I have no authority to tell anyone to follow them, and I refuse to advocate for left-hand practice.

>it does create mustard gas and you may meet the fairies

Mustard gas isn't lethal in small quantities, and seeing the fairies may be worth it to certain people.

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726fc9  No.492

File: 4a141084320922e⋯.jpg (17.59 KB, 474x316, 3:2, Iunderstandnotingyet.jpg)

>>491

I'm even more confused now. I hope you can answer some questions in order to help me and possibly other beginners to understand better. It is a thread for beginner after all.

First and foremost you are mentioning a "tenebrous" false immortality. What exactly is this, Anon? I understand immortality only in two ways:

1. False immortality which states that a being can survive indefintely in the astral or in the physical, but will cease to exist when all of creation/maya/matrix etc will collapse and dissapear again at the end of one cosmic cycle. Thus false immortality or pseudo-immortality.

2. Real or actual Immortality which states that a being exists even beyond the collapse of the entire universe and is not dependend upon the physical or the astral. At the same time the being will forever remain an individual consciousness, the true and literal eternal.

So how does your false immortality fit into the picture?

Also it has been posted elsewhere that if you want immortality and ascension you should stay away from masturbation. Yet here you seem to advocate masturbation in order to maintain the animal mind. Do I understand it right that you are saying masturbation prevents dissolution into the all and helps to keep an individual self/ego? This is where it gets really confusing. It appears to me that some people think dissolution into "god" or the all is the highest form of Gnosis or Enlightenment, but from what I have learned it is only your literal death and true Gnosis and Enlightenment is to attain true immortality as described above while at the same time NOT dissolving yourself into anything and staying an individual consciousness forever. Does this have anything to do with you endorsing masturbation and maintaining your animal mind?

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005a0d  No.493

File: 902461b231ac46d⋯.gif (103.86 KB, 774x576, 43:32, 902461b231ac46d8df4a0b2dae….gif)

>>492

>false immortality will cease to exist at the end of a cosmic cycle

That's generally orders of magnitude longer than what I'm referring to here. A crystallized consciousness can survive without the activity of the soul for a few solar cycles at most. This is because the consciousness naturally begins to descend in vibration, slowly entering the mineral level of existence and dissipating into all but its very essence, which gets recycled. So you shouldn't expect more than 20000 years or so of life after death without development in one direction or another.

False immortality is simply an extension to allow ample time for the achievement of true immortality, which may require re-incarnation to begin.

>you seem to advocate masturbation

Masturbation is suggested as an exercise for the malkuthic mind, being counterpart to tantra. Instead of developing the emotional and rational minds, the animal mind is empowered, in order to fully crystallize your consciousness once it is unified. It is much harder to shift the higher faculties from one state to another, and by avoiding their realization before a proper path is chosen, further development becomes much easier.

>people think dissolution into God is the highest form of Gnosis

That's a heretical interpretation in Buddhism and Hinduism. The only way to achieve dissolution into the Absolute is through the left-hand-path, as it ends in the devolution and dismantling of the Self, after millennia. Right-hand practice cannot achieve dissolution at all, it realizes the soul into its own self-contained deity, a complete, separate existence from the world.

You would eventually have to practice one of these two paths, and either take up chastity and internal transmutation, or the descent of the being towards the infernal,

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c6cf97  No.494

File: 7d68527a38f6a70⋯.png (888.67 KB, 756x715, 756:715, akarinQ.png)

>>491

>The exercises posted here do result in the formation of a near "husk"

>>493

>Masturbation is suggested as an exercise for the malkuthic mind

Assuming this following post is from the same anon, what is your real motivation here?

>>204

>They're also called 'husks', and are the chaotic counter-impressions of the Divine emanations.

>For practitioners of these schools, it isn't uncommon for their divine essence to completely retreat from their bodies, leaving them as soul-less, empty husks, mere rational animals.

In the other thread you seemed to be critical and negative of some other things posted on the board, using a negative interpretation of what is achieved through those methods. Yet here you are advocating for those same methods (using jewish concepts).

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005a0d  No.495

File: 55bf2a1b466b6de⋯.png (23.68 KB, 600x390, 20:13, faces_chart.png)

>>494

I'm simply proposing a method of development which relies entirely on the individual.

Your exercises and techniques are very effective, but largely dependent on outside help. I've also noticed that the collective holds extensive influence over quite a few occult currents and schools, much larger than this limited group here. I'm still uncertain where I stand on that, so providing a neutral alternative is simply the natural result of that.

I've previously stated that I'm not hostile to anyone or anything here, and wish to learn from your philosophy and practice. That remains true.

Lastly, as a Saturnine emanation, I don't have any allegiances, aims, or motivations. I'm not posting these exercises for any reason other than it being the most actionable potential of fate.

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3182a5  No.496

Does morality or alignment matter?

>>480

hh:22

is the current time, I guess you answered my question in advance.

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726fc9  No.497

File: 91c98293d60fafb⋯.jpg (27.72 KB, 350x350, 1:1, flames.jpg)

>>493

>The only way to achieve dissolution into the Absolute is through the left-hand-path, as it ends in the devolution and dismantling of the Self, after millennia. Right-hand practice cannot achieve dissolution at all, it realizes the soul into its own self-contained deity, a complete, separate existence from the world.

Well that's a first for me. I've always been under the impression that it's exactly the opposite. That the right hand path would lead into dissolution and the left hand path into individual immortality. Because it's mainly the right hand-pathers who practice selflessness, sacrifice and strive to unite with god or the all. Meanwhile the left hand-pathers value independence and personal power, freedom and strive to be seperate from the rest. I saw the actual teachings of buddha and real gnosticism both as left hand path or "luciferian", coming from lucifer the true liberator and emancipator. Therefore the left hand path was for me a path into freedom and true immortality and the right hand path was a path into false immortality until one gets completely dissolved into the demiurge. But actually I saw myself as a middle path guy, balacing between left and right, sometimes swaying left, sometimes right, taking the best from both sides. I just want true immortality and don't want to be dissolved.

I even argued on 4chan with someone who claimed that vampires are qlipoths or husks while I hold the position that vampires, at least as understood by me, are true immortals and therefore everything else but a husk. In fact I argued that those who raise up the kaballistic tree of life are the true husks for they only get ever closer to being devoured by the demiurge and dissolve at the end of their journey while vampires remove themselves completely from it and descend into the tree of death instead, hence they can be considered undead.

But now I don't know anymore what's right and what's wrong. I guess I knew nothing all along. Just give me the exercises to achieve true immortality, the rest is unimportant.

But if vampirism doesn't lead to true immortality as I still believe it does, even worse if it actually somehow hinders it or even pushes me to dissolution…I would be seriously fucking pissed.

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e19697  No.498

File: 6c50f7464addb14⋯.gif (232.61 KB, 1000x1200, 5:6, 6c50f7464addb14f2c7bc92cbd….gif)

>>497

As far as I can see, vampirism is pretty much a middle path, and for its core functions, involves neither the clipoth nor sephirot. It's pretty much left to the disposition of the vampire which path to pursue and not.

Luciferianism is, in large, a right-hand movement. The only distinction is replacing Satan, the adversary, with the Demiurge. Both represent the same lower reality and Will which hold us in place, like pawns in a game. Some call it Gaia.

In fact, from your other post, it seems most of the movements and schools of thought you appreciate are, in fact, right-hand.

Black magic is acting in accordance with the World.

White magic is acting against it.

True immortality is achieved through tantra, and the crystallization of the Self.

This article is a pretty good summary. Any article on tantra or sexual alchemy is also recommended.

https://gnosticteachings.org/books-by-samael-aun-weor/the-perfect-matrimony/940-the-work-with-the-demon.html

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3182a5  No.499

>>388

I've heard some females can momentarily read minds naturally, in Japanese culture this is called kokoro no koe and it's widely used as anime gag.

Telepathy maybe useful but there are plenty of ways to relay information technologically. Most 'above connections' can be considered telepathy if you think about it.

The only time I had an external input out of nowhere was while I was outside, there was a incomprehensible and short whisper over my right ear. Spooky, also the stars were somewhat not glowing much that night to add to spookiness.

>one of the most useful skills one can get

First thing that came in my mind was foreknowledge and rem⊙te viewing. This can be practised and developed. It's like divination but clearer and instantaneous.

Another would be time travel - moving back a save point. Usual proof is retained memories of gameover and/or out-of-body vision but such memories might be from foreknowledge or foreknowledge of rem0te viewing.

>>391

Cameras have better color range than our eyes and can capture infrared so probably yes.

>>486

>oreo

Just recently I mistyped prep(per) as oreo in the pol board, coincindence?

>>497

Above dissolution and coagulation, I think it is ne plus ultra - like being the game master.

Maybe vampire is the highest form attainable as human, but I don't see it as the 'game master'. I am imagining the manhua Infinity Game as example for the 'game master' and the sequel Bloodline as the 'vampire'.

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c6cf97  No.500

>>495

I'm not going to force anything on you, but I'd see it as an achievement on my part if I could somehow show you what I have and how I really see things. I'm going to make an assumption again based on obervations and send you something. You'll know what it is when you see it. Hopefully this will help you see what we're doing here.

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c6cf97  No.503

>>499

>some females can momentarily read minds naturally, in Japanese culture this is called kokoro no koe

Interesting considering past postings about talking telepathically with Shizuka Arakawa. Do the nips have a natural proficiency for things like this?

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bfd648  No.506

>>478

>>477

This is gold.

>>479

>>480

This needs to be realised from the above before it can be really understood.

I've been slowly approaching this lately, and thinking a lot in these terms.

>>482

>>483

>>484

I'm at a point where I can't even pretend to believe this is real. But I have a feeling this has been put in my path for a reason.

>>499

>kokoro no koe

In Kabbalah that's called the inner self. Reality Transurfing also talks about the voice of the heart, which doesn't speak using words, and requires the mind to be quiet in order to be heard.

>>503

>Do the nips have a natural proficiency for things like this

As a culture, they do. Same with Australian abos, African magic practitioners, people from the Pacific and some Middle Eastern mystically-inclined sects.

Actually, there's a lot of cultures in the world that do. The West is increasingly fucked by the disease of materialism, is all.

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bfd648  No.508

>>484

I recently posted about this elsewhere. I had a minor injury with inflammation and I focused my awareness fully on it as I went to sleep. This increased my pain on it exponentially, to the point I thought something was going very wrong with it, but I ignored and went to sleep without even looking at it. And the next morning it was healed.

I don’t want to experiment on others because I don’t even know how to sense others’ energy. I want to do it on myself, but your post makes me think I might seriously fuck myself up.

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e19697  No.509

>>508

What you've done there was entirely energy manipulation. Remember that even attention on its own carries energy and intent. Anywhere you direct your attention, stimuli will be more easily perceived, and energy will gather.

If you fully focus your attention on a spot on your skin, and then pinch yourself there, the pain may become worse than a serious injury.

You can practice suppressing that pain stimulus while you focus on your injuries, and will achieve the same effect. In fact, practicing this will prove itself extremely handy for headaches and migraines.

I should note that people have various degrees of attunement to the various levels of existence, and I've seen students heal serious burns and the like in the same way, days after starting.

For me, I'm nowhere near as gifted in this area, so vital force manipulation becomes a necessity.

>>500

>you'll know what it is when you see it

Looking forwards to it.

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e19697  No.510

File: bb9c4e14edb5e31⋯.jpg (29.06 KB, 600x378, 100:63, vanunu_7.jpg)

>>509

>>500

Alright, I understand. That's a much more compelling position than what I had in mind before. Whew.

Definitely puts things into perspective.

I may want to get involved as well in the future.

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bfd648  No.511

>>509

Vital energy remains a mystery to me. I only relatively recently realized how to perceive energy. I can’t imagine how to sense this viscous other thing.

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bfd648  No.512

>>385

You used the term “vital energy” here, but you talk about a gaseous, not viscous body. Is this a different one? This one seems safe to experiment with, while the viscous one you said it’s better not to. Please clarify. I’m trying to grok vital energy.

>>477

Is this fire?

>>484

Is this earth?

>>489

Is this water?

And if so, where is air? Thank you for your enlightening posts, anon.

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726fc9  No.513

>>510

For some reason I couldn't help but initially laugh when I saw this post.

What did you see that was so compelling and "whew" and made you think about being involved, anon?

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005a0d  No.514

>>513

Well, I got high, very high, and meditated deeply on the matter.

What I managed to find was a detailed explanation of the white lodge as a form of hive-mind, and of all opposed movements forming a unitary chaotic fringe. It seems the black lodge as a whole is ready for a large-scale takeover in which various parties wish to replace the current church-cultural loosh farm with a system of their own. The end goal being the complete liberation of Earth from the hive-mind, and a massive source of power and energy for black lodge masters. Initiation and progression of magicians would be restricted to those who actually benefit the common good, and in much smaller quantity than the come-one-come-all approach seen currently around the world.

The Succubus Collective is a sizeable part of this, and the name 'succubus' refers to their status of undeath, as beings which 'lie under', removed from the wheel of samsara and karma.

I was also taught a technique of black tantra after this, which awakens and develops the fiery tail, having managed to find none before through academic research.

Overall, the "whew" was about having my entire world-view thrown upside down and learning some very precious knowledge. Not a bad few hours, overall.

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005a0d  No.515

>>512

>you talk about a gaseous, not viscous body

That would be the emotional, or astral body.

>is this fire?

Yes.

>is this earth?

Yes.

>is this water?

No, that would be Air.

<and so, where is air?

Instead, water would be >>385

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726fc9  No.517

File: 9d003c0e8964891⋯.jpg (147.64 KB, 500x375, 4:3, bodhi.jpg)

>>514

Ah I've read something like that already here on the board. Just more maya things happening in maya. Nothing that a man of spirit would be concerned about but surely a interesting time for the unenlightened. The leadership of the prison is changing, and

>Initiation and progression of magicians would be restricted to those who actually benefit the common good

seems kinda menacing, but then again it's the kali yuga so whatever.

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bfd648  No.550

>>509

Can you do anything with energy manipulation, or is vital force manipulation necessary for some things? For example, I read some stories of magicians extending their lifespans by centuries or materializing their tulpas as physical companions and servants.

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c6cf97  No.553

>>550

>materializing their tulpas as physical companions and servants

Tulpas being simply human minds, this would mean being able to partition off a part of yourself not only as an alter, but to either incarnate it or materialize it by creating a body for it. If you could do the latter you would already have such control of yourself and your material manifestations that you could already travel freely in the astral while in your body and perform physical shapehifting with no restrictions save for breaking the functions of biology. You'd be a god already.

Incarnating one of your minds in a new body sounds comparably easier but what would the implications of this really be? You'd be stuck with split personalities which you couldn't fix as long as both bodies are alive, it would be principially the same as creating a horcrux.

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c6cf97  No.591

>>514

This analysis is pretty accurate. Keep an eye on current events to see it unfold.

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5c1a82  No.672

File: 394af6746d04f59⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 963.48 KB, 639x652, 639:652, 2mim5vquf3w31.png)

Fuck magians and mundanes

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bfd648  No.675

Poppy's album "I Disagree" in one go from start to finish

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bfd648  No.747

>>515

I again. I hope you’re still checking this thread from time to time.

Where would vital energy fit in all of this (“qi”, “prana”…)?

Are you going to make more posts in this thread?

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d70442  No.751

>>514

Succubus Collective?

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c6cf97  No.762

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e0e1ad  No.792

Are there any good exercises or rituals that deal with preservation or regeneration of youth?

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c6cf97  No.797

>>792

Posted in library

>>796

Basically it's a yoga program.

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e0e1ad  No.805

>>797

Thanks, much appreciated.

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19f64c  No.808

>>797

It's not the original version, but another tainted one…

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bed0df  No.830

>>506

Vital energy control is definitely real, I've been temporarily mutilated by vampire users of it before and I'm kind of nascent at changing and healing myself with it, too. Don't know how to harm/heal others with it yet, though. Maybe I'll practice helping my onion grow with the advice from those posts.

I'll add a really good basic technique I'm learning to master that everyone should know first thing: relaxation breathing. When you breathe, even if you're agitated, begin with your diaphragm and fill your lungs from the bottom up, using your chest muscles only once you've reach halfway, then when exhaling, release the air from the top of your lungs first using your chest muscles, followed by the bottom of the lungs using your diaphragm. Works wonders for both relaxing in a panicked or stressful situation, and for entering a meditative or trance-like state.

Anyone know any other basic breathing techniques?

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bfd648  No.837

>>830

For energizing: breathe into your belly while you contract your perineum slightly. Then breathe our and as you push your belly in, keep pushing upwards with your perineum more intensely. If you do it correctly you will feel a kind of hot wind rush up your center and/or sexual arousal.

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cca2a4  No.932

>>498

>Black magic is acting in accordance with the World.

>White magic is acting against it.

In the early vampire threads vampirism has been called "the blackest of black magic". But seeing it from that perspective shouldn't it actually be the whitest magic? Since it can't get any more against the world than becomming undead and immortal. It's probably the most unnatural thing when it comes to this world and even harmful to it/to the demiurge.

>As far as I can see, vampirism is pretty much a middle path

It makes more sense to be right hand path then. Middle right-leaning at best.

>Some call it Gaia.

I wouldn't call it Gaia. For me Gaia is only the earth while the demiurge or "this world" is all of creation both physical and astral. That's a big difference.

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cca2a4  No.933

>>932

Wait a minute…can it be RHP and still black magic? Somehow I just assumed that RHP is automatically white magic and LHP is black magic but after I read my own post I realized the confusion. Maybe vampirism is by the above definition RHP while still being black magic?

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bfd648  No.936

>>933

Ah, labels. For me, white magic is the one you do through your higher self, and black magic that which requires “hiring” other spirits.

For some people black magic is the one that interferes with your spiritual ascension (merging with your higher self). I can agree with that.

But in any case labels can’t accompany you all the way, so you’re going to have to drop them at some point. Words too. Even thought.

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cca2a4  No.937

>>936

>But in any case labels can’t accompany you all the way, so you’re going to have to drop them at some point. Words too. Even thought.

I agree with that but for me this will come at a later point. I'm not that far yet. One needs to understand in some way first before one can drop words and toughts. When studying occult material and learning spiritual systems you read words and you use thinking to make sense of it. There is nothing wrong with it. Clearing things up and putting them in perspective, thinking about the stuff is what brings me foreward in my understanding.

When I read posted stuff that seems confusing or contradicting it's naturally to ask about, that's how one learns isn't it?

The same with the post I made about the mirror being a symbol for spirit. In the end it's just labels and words, but it would be so much better for my practices and study if I actually understood when I encounter "mirror" as a metaphor somewhere instead of just not getting the teaching at all.

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bfd648  No.1002

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The language of the gods

tfw you hear that sweet ASMR. tfw you taste your gf's cooking. tfw you see a stick in the ground that resembles a snake. tfw you feel the words "his daughter was found dead, her body ravaged; she had been raped repeatedly by a pack of wild dogs". tfw you get triggered by an imageboard post.

You respond but it is not you. Your body reacts, but it's not just your body. Something within you stirs in response to your circumstances, yet you made no conscious decision to stir. What happened?

Check out the card of The Lovers. The conscious mind, symbolized by the male, looks at the unconscious, symbolized by the female, who in turn ignores him and looks instead at the collective unconscious, symbolized by the angel, symbolizing the divine as well.

All three could be considered (You), yet we are normally only conscious of the conscious. This is one of the first secrets of magic. A map, if you will, that is not the territory. But a very useful map.

What has the tower of Babel have to do with any of this though?

>If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.

And thus the male developed spoken language, which is not the language of the female, nor that of the angel, or the gods. This is part of the fall. This is what made us mortal.

To communicate with the gods and to become gods in our own right, we must speak the part. It's the language of psychometry. It's the language of the so called "energies". Of emotion. Of symbols, dreams and rites. The word is but a tool that should it not evoke a deeper response in us, would be useless for magic.

The language of the gods is instant, precise, unequivocal. It doesn't require calculations, debate or opinion. It implies creation. It is creation.

>In the beginning existed the Word, and the Word existed with God, and God was the Word.

This "Word" is not a spoken word. Is not an English, Greek, Latin nor Hebrew word. It is the language of the gods. It is reality itself.

Operate this Word to speak with the universe on a first name basis, and become reality itself.

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22336b  No.1019

File: 2f47c82a7815f91⋯.jpg (123.23 KB, 500x496, 125:124, 186f2ddbfd1bd9f66a8478a39a….jpg)

>>1002

Unironically based, thanks for massively improving this thread anon.

Divine language is authority, also known as authorship. It is direct creation in the most fundamental sense. It is the realization of the World within the I, abstract thought at a cosmic level. At this stage, words can act as a tool, but are entirely symbolic and insubstantial of themselves, they serve simply to provide a temporal anchor for building timeless actions and effects.

This is what I would call advanced magic, it's hard to attain and completely incomprehensible for those that haven't. It is nothing less than complete command and control over reality at the whim of a single thought.

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bfd648  No.1020

File: 3abebb5d90a330c⋯.png (1.39 MB, 1253x703, 1253:703, divine_marriage.png)

>>1002

This series definitely has some esoteric knowledge encoded in it.

Pic related, full bidirectional communication. Even the divine is pictured. Akira can now communicate with his subconscious fully Mikoto (his subconscious) accesses his dead mother's (unconscious) and his forgotten memories via her psychometry. This is literally the story of someone learning magic.

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c8cc52  No.1104

I wanted something new and all I got are ERPing edgy boys and people who think crystals cure autistism. Modern magick is a sorry affair.

Where does modern magic come from?

I, of course, mean the white people versions.

Take a guess at what time period.

Comes from the 1800s. Which makes modern occultism as old as the first car. Magick traces its roots back to two main people Alister Cromley and Julious Evola. Evola having been erased from history in modern times due to his views on the jews. Speaking of Jews. How many symbols of whitchcraft are antisemitic?

That's open to interpretation, but when you have a group going against the Christian image. What in history have the christians always called pagan and immoral? The Jews.

I'ma break some of these practices down for you and explain how they work.

Tarot cards- they're open ended and your mind is really good at writing a story if given open ended pieces. Also confirmation biases. You easily forget the times when the cards are wrong.

Pendulums - you know you can change how a pendulum swings just by thinking about it? Yeah, that but subconscious.

Summoning spirits - at first I wanted to discredit this as edgy bois making up stories for likes. But I reflected on it, there is a thing from my childhood that explains it really well. Tulpamancy, the kind that was a trend in the mlp community a few years ago. Where you train yourself to hallucinations. It's not hard. If I hold my hand out and close my eyes, thinking only about a soft girl's hand then I can feel a soft girl's hand.

Anyway that's my damnation of Magick. If any of you have something that will for sure prove me wrong. (I already did MR Cromley's how to summon demons book. Nothing happened, I even got the original untranslated version.) Then I'm willing to die to experience something new.

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c6cf97  No.1107

File: 9c8b0d7b8d7baa2⋯.jpg (96.08 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 47e3e09378764eb12d9e362b8d….jpg)

>>1104

>Summoning spirits - at first I wanted to discredit this as edgy bois making up stories for likes. But I reflected on it, there is a thing from my childhood that explains it really well. Tulpamancy, the kind that was a trend in the mlp community a few years ago. Where you train yourself to hallucinations. It's not hard. If I hold my hand out and close my eyes, thinking only about a soft girl's hand then I can feel a soft girl's hand.

That's not what a tulpa is, or what it's for. It's a practice method to uncover past lives' memories. See thread

>>187

and this website

https://www.tulpa.info/

If you had been looking around this board a bit before diving directly into the most mainstream thread, you had seen

>>3

and

>>97

Try the methods presented here yourself and you will have results. Maybe you'll explain it all as "tulpas", then at least you would be amazed at your own ability to create all this, yeah?

>Reflecting

on something you have absolutely no personal experience of makes you come off as a bit of a fool imo.

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853f7b  No.1109

>>1107

I wonder if he thinks he's the first or only person to suggest that spirits you summon are just "parts of your brain" that you "bring out". Anyone that's done this sort of work long enough knows better. But that would be if we assumed he was being sincere, which I don't think he is at all.

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02bfcf  No.1110

File: 800e93394239ed1⋯.jpg (77.41 KB, 1024x512, 2:1, external_content_duckduckg….jpg)

>>1104

>Summoning spirits - at first I wanted to discredit this as edgy bois making up stories for likes. But I reflected on it, there is a thing from my childhood that explains it really well. Tulpamancy, the kind that was a trend in the mlp community a few years ago. Where you train yourself to hallucinations. It's not hard. If I hold my hand out and close my eyes, thinking only about a soft girl's hand then I can feel a soft girl's hand.

I basically came to the same conclusion. But I understand that it may be triggering to some people on this board to even read this considering this board is centered around heavy spirit-mommy/waifu interaction and them more or less doing everything for you.

I think from an unenlightened viewpoint most spirits, gods etc indeed do seem very external to you and very "real". That's why many occultists are so convinced about them. But from an enlightened viewpoint one realizes that most(or maybe even all) of them are indeed merely manifestations of your own mind and archetypes/forces of it. From your own mind in the small scale and at the same time from the entire maya in the large scale. Still the same, as above so below etc etc. I think most of all that spirit interaction stuff is 50% shizo ERP and 50% "tulpamancy". I also tried the stuff posted in the other threads here but nothing really happened. Even if it worked and something happened, I probably would have tought of it as manifestations of my own inner stuff and not something genuinly real and external. I don't think there is much that is real or external to begin with, unless you look at it from an unenlightened perspective then the illusion can be very real.

>>1107

>If you had been looking around this board a bit before diving directly into the most mainstream thread

I think this actually fits well into the thread.

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c6cf97  No.1112

File: 157109a48d601ee⋯.jpg (356.18 KB, 1368x1900, 18:25, d4500c0d3bb343c2d631f86a5c….jpg)

>>1110

>But I understand that it may be triggering to some people on this board to even read this considering this board is centered around heavy spirit-mommy/waifu interaction and them more or less doing everything for you.

It's more that you come off as silly and inexperienced. The idea of different entities doing everything for you also exposes that you don't understand what we do. Maintaining that view will prevent you from taking part in the core activities of this board, i.e. actual ascension with the aid of spirit ladies.

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02bfcf  No.1113

File: efe68d93c28156f⋯.gif (1.33 MB, 320x286, 160:143, poohell.gif)

>>1112

>The idea of different entities doing everything for you also exposes that you don't understand what we do.

Maybe I actually don't. But I nevertheless realize the usefulness of externalizing parts of oneself and giving them life of their own. Gnostics for example eternalize negative aspects of their own being and make them into personifications which would be the archons. Then they go around bashing the archons and ERPing as if they were some evil demons out there. Also they even externalize the demiurge and make him into the evil creator god even tho in the end both archons and demiurge are just parts of us all. They are inside us. Some people who have wet dreams or sleep paralysis which are caused by their own energy and/or mind blame some "succubus" for it. Elementals like salamander and sylphs are just parts of yourself too. Mikal Nyght in his/her "Teachings of the Immortals" and "Darker Teachings of the Immortals" goes on to externalize your very own higher self or spirit into basically a super tulpa and give it energy and ERP as if it's real until your super tulpa comes and unites with you, therefore you achieve Gnosis and immortality. It all makes it easier for you to work with that stuff but still it's all just inside your mind/soul. It can be effective to work with what you perceive as external beings but for me it appears lame if I know that they aren't genuinly real and external. The attached bored pooh is what I look like when I even think about working with externalized parts of myself.

But assuming you are right and I'm full of shit…

>the aid of spirit ladies

What if I prefer the aid of spirit gentleman? Where would I go? I don't know about a sunflower group except with male spirits and gods and an incubus collective. Or even better, spirit futas/hermaphrodites? That actually seems the most balanced and complete, the best of both worlds if you will.

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c6cf97  No.1114

>>1113

>I nevertheless realize the usefulness of externalizing parts of oneself and giving them life of their own

All interactions bring new perspectives I guess. This is what humans do as they incarnate. Each mind being a new tulpa, each lifetime or incarnation being the most mundane method of "tulpamancy." If you could just meditate yourself into it from a metaphysical view, maybe you wouldn't need to incarnate. Or maybe you would because entering a new body is the best way of creating a new tulpa and learning something about yourself? We're all tulpas, as humans. Understanding the concept is one reason we come here. If you say all exernal beings are tulpas, do you mean to say that you are my tulpa? I don't see any usefulness in that kind of thinking at the practical stage we are in here. I'm just throwing this out there. Don't bother answering the questions above, it's rhetorics.

>What if I prefer the aid of spirit gentleman?

Just go to the temple/meeting room and ask Yuuka to be connected with one. Ancient greek deities have been appearing at our sessions and those who come are the ones participants are interested in and can work with. It's just cultural and personal interests that's made this to be dominated by female deities.

There's an incubus king allied with the Succubus Collective, the Maergzjiran undead gods are both males and females and same for the actual earthbound vampires. There just seems to be an overall female dominance in all of these, especially among vampires.

>Or even better, spirit futas/hermaphrodites? That actually seems the most balanced and complete, the best of both worlds if you will.

Start seriously practicing yoga if you want to meet Shiva. He started appearing after about 8 months of daily practice for me. He has a dominant male side but can turn female at will, you can just tell that he's more male overall and even in his female form you'll still in your mind refer to him as "him."

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02bfcf  No.1115

File: 18ec0a1f21b5535⋯.jpg (109.43 KB, 731x508, 731:508, vooh.jpg)

>>1114

The way you describe Shiva is almost what I would like to be my final "complete" form.

>If you say all exernal beings are tulpas, do you mean to say that you are my tulpa?

I'm a big tulpa …for you.

>actual earthbound vampires.

You mean the cabal that anons took the spell for with the matriarch and alissa? It actually scares me to think that I might become earthbound now if it somehow turns out that it was real after all. Who would want to be bound to this shithole? Don't ask why I took it then because I don't really know myself.

In that case I would probably actually start working with the undead gods and get a waifu (preferably vampire or spirit) because otherwise I would be bored out of my mind and go insane.

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bfd648  No.1116

>>1110

>being so right without even knowing

It's all in your head, you just don't know how big your head is.

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bfd648  No.1117

>>1113

My point being there is no difference between "internal" and "external". Thus you are actually right, even if you don't really know what you're talking about.

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bfd648  No.1118

Oh wait. I thought you were another poster. You actually know what you're talking about, sorry.

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bfd648  No.1119

>>1113

I bought that book because you mentioned it and perhaps you should read it again if you have it. And go through any references to other books and philosophies it makes. The author knows what he’s talking about.

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c6cf97  No.1120

File: 44c72273feea4ac⋯.jpg (873.56 KB, 1035x1400, 207:280, _hijiri_byakuren_touhou_dr….jpg)

>>1113

>Mikal Nyght in his/her "Teachings of the Immortals" and "Darker Teachings of the Immortals" goes on to externalize your very own higher self or spirit into basically a super tulpa and give it energy and ERP as if it's real until your super tulpa comes and unites with you, therefore you achieve Gnosis and immortality.

I'll just address this part because this isn't all wrong if you remove it from the context it was brought up in here. We've recently found that some people formed their true self into a human mind in a past life and that this mind was preserved in its perfected form. As human minds are all tulpas, this will appear as a tulpa later on, but it's just a past you talking to you. In your current life, in your current tulpa/mind, you will perceive it as an external entity. I know I did. As my true past mind started eating its way through all the other past lives, and my curent self, I started having indeed, a person commenting on what I did from behind my left shoulder, until this "other person" broke through and took over. That's when awareness shifted back to my previous, perfected mind and I regained awareness of who I was back then.

This process may take many lives but there are ways to possibly speed this up, making this happen in this life by intentionally working for this goal. The method you describe may work to achieve this, as the methodology sounds "right enough", even if the understanding of why these mechanics function is backwards.

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bfd648  No.1121

>>1120

What made you choose that image?

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c6cf97  No.1122

>>1121

The master mind swallowing all the other.

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4ababc  No.1124

File: d6ef242205d4b72⋯.jpg (131.28 KB, 800x541, 800:541, ching_khun_1.jpg)

>>1104

You foundamentally misunderstand tarot. Each card is a symbolic representation of a metaphysical principle, starting from the first tarot card, the Magician, representing the completed, spiritually actualized human being.

There's a reason I used it as in the very first post of this thread, which is more or less a guide to becoming human.

The pendulum thing could be correct, but consider this: your subconscious mind takes into account all the sensory information and situational cues that your conscious mind discards for brevity. Having a direct, clear way to query your subconscious about a question that you only have a limited perspective on is magical in itself.

Your perception on spirit summoning is more or less correct. Do keep in mind that all subconscious thoughtforms, or tulpas, that you create, are microcosmic representations of microcosmic, or physical, principles and laws. These subconscious entities represent and reflect the supra-conscious meta-entities of foundamental reality. You can think of the "spirit interactions" you have to be subjective interpretations of objective events.

You've posted less of a damnation of magic, and more of an informed, and qualitative interpretation of it. You're a wizard, anon. Gratz.

Now follow the exercises I've posted and become a good wizard. I may post some more advanced ones in the near future, dealing with the stage of adepthood and beyond, if I feel like it.

>>1110

Good analysis, anon, but keep in mind that shizo ERP and tulpamancy can often have very real and powerful effects. After all, conviction is the principal element of manifestation. I don't understand why you'd even make a distinction between "internal" and "external", and why you'd define one as real and discount the other as fictive. For the adept, the external follows and obeys the internal.

>>1113

Hmm, you definitely have a very good understanding of the internal world, the only thing limiting you, it seems, is that you separate it from the external. The natural human ability for pattern recognition and meaningful interpretation are genuine super-powers. Remember the external world follows the same mental structure as the internal world, and with a certain bit of meditation and enlightenment, is hardly distinct from it.

>>1120

Largely the same process for me, except my "true mind" as you call it, was less of a person, and more of a depersonalized, absolute and all-devouring principle of universal authorship. It first manifested as a sigil I instinctively drew at around age 9, and I slowly synced with "it", or myself, since then. Your spell helped a lot in that regard, and so did my use of students to offset psychic rebound from it.

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e15d8f  No.1125

File: 5f6dde5d633b6b3⋯.jpg (269.89 KB, 850x607, 850:607, flandresitting.jpg)

>>1104

>>1110

>>1113

>>1115

>>1116

>>1117

Can someone please prove this guy wrong, this is my only cope.

Please someone do something extraordinary please prove these people wrong.

I need your help, please, you know magic you can prove them wrong.

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c6cf97  No.1126

>>1125

There's gnostic thought and references to Trismegistos, unfortunatly these anons cannot see the reality of it. Maybe this is a hint from the universe to get rid of those egregores.

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216cd6  No.1128

>>1125

Their thinking would be better suited to a more scientific environment.. Anything you see or do can be reasoned away into mundane and natural forces, even magic. If they took the actual scientific approach to all of this, relying on the world to provide the principles and data used for philosophical or theological thinking, they might get out of whatever stupor or dead-end they've placed themselves into. Or, taking the opposite approach and taking purely idealistic and ivory tower-tier thought and treating it as objective and as real as the material world, either way the ultimate outcome should be revelation through meditation or through practice.

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bfd648  No.1129

File: ab59d8a18c6924b⋯.png (105.19 KB, 563x239, 563:239, Screenshot_2020_04_29_at_1….png)

>>1125

>>1126

>>1128

It looks like you didn't understand me at all (last two). The universe is literally in your mind.

There is no difference between internal and external because reality is a dream. You just need to become even partially lucid and can make shit levitate, or cease existing, or become someone else.

You are projecting your closed-mindedness into others.

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216cd6  No.1130

File: 890d97503f49d1c⋯.gif (182.65 KB, 500x250, 2:1, 100_Percent_High_on_Juice.gif)

>>1129

The universe is within my mind as much as my mind follows the principles of the universe, and as much as my ability to observe the universe allows. The universe isn't me, the universe and the external has managed to do things that I don't comprehend and can't predict. I don't see a logical reason to believe that the universe is literally me. I also don't believe reality is any more a dream than anything mentally conceived and understood. I'm of the stance that the external, internal, and anything conceivable, that can be understood through logic or lack of, is real. The application of any of these things are what interest me more.

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853f7b  No.1131

>>1128

>Anything you see or do can be reasoned away into mundane and natural forces, even magic.

I'd disagree with you there. There are certain paranormal phenomena that can't be explained away by materialists, so they just chalk them up as totally fake to cope, even if there a studies and data to back them up. Terminal lucidity, remote viewing, verifiable out-of-body experiences, physical evocation (when it happens), poltergeist phenomena (either in general or as a result of evocation), certain types of divination, shared dreams or astral experiences where subjects report experiencing the same events, ESP (especially when more than one person sees the same thing), miraculous healing, and so on. I've even read an excerpt from a book by a medical doctor written many decades ago where he reported seeing an undeniable example of shapeshifting by a tribe in Africa doing a ritual dance, where two participants turned into jackals before his very eyes (it was quite a grotesque thing to witness). At some point you just have to concede that being a fedora is stupid. You can explain away a successful spell as a coincidence, but how many times will you be able to do that before you can't keep doing so? You eventually have to acknowledge statistical significance. Things like that. Fedoras are fedoras because they want to be, literally every one you encounter will say the same thing: "magic doesn't real, trust me I never tried it." You'll never convince people that don't want to be convinced. It's honestly quite amusing watching them try to deny that there's anything more to reality; you'd think that they'd be excited to learn more. But such is the nature of Hylics.

I noticed a few of the people here take "All Is Mind" to a whole new level, which is an interesting perspective, I suppose. I'd disagree with certain things because I think entities you summon do have external reality, not just internal.

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853f7b  No.1132

>>1131

I'll add to this that I suspect at least part of the reason fedoras want to cling to materialism is because they like the feeling they get from doing so. They enjoy the high they get from believing they have the nature of reality figured out when other people are "too stupid" to realize "it's all matter, bro!" They also like the comfort it gives them to not have to think about what lies beyond; life is much simpler if you think you can learn everything with science. It's the hubris of thinking they have reality and the nature of existence figured out, probably the most embarrassingly absurd kind of hubris you could have, that they love so much. That's why they're always so smug about it, almost like they're proud they've never experienced the supernatural. And of course, they never have to do any of the work themselves. They won't actively seek it out, no, the burden is on everyone else to prove it to them, to their satisfaction, using unreasonable standards that would dismiss anything someone could show them. And they'll happily "debunk" anyone that comes their way in order to avoid being convinced, or just flat-out deny anything that challenges them. They are not trying to be convinced by others, but rather they're trying to convince themselves they were right all along so they don't have to reevaluate or change their minds. That's the sort of mentality they have. The majority of them are just pissed off at Christianity so they lash out at everything else. You'll notice many of their arguments are tailored specifically to respond to a typical American Protestant fundamentalist cosmology. That's pretty much all they know, since they've never bothered investigating anything else.

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853f7b  No.1133

File: 6a58fc6ef643fd8⋯.jpg (114.25 KB, 498x960, 83:160, naturalist_origins_of_reli….jpg)

>>1132

pic related

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c6cf97  No.1134

File: e302eec2109bbf6⋯.png (148.49 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 626278f83367f6a174f89e2335….png)

>>1129

>It looks like you didn't understand me at all (last two). The universe is literally in your mind.

If you let her in, yes.

>There is no difference between internal and external because reality is a dream.

What is the point of statements like this? This is pure nonsense, mental masturbation put in words.

Share the methodology of your practice please. This is meant to be a place of practice, development and learning through performing exercises and rituals. I see none of that in this recent "discussion" in this thread.

If you look back at how the thread started:

>>384

>This thread will be dedicated to the practical learning of basic esoteric skills

>practical learning

>>385

>Exercise 1: Basic Energy Manipulation

>>386

>>387

Whatever this thread has turned into isn't what it was intended for.

And this is directed at any of you feeding this kind of posting.

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216cd6  No.1135

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>>1134

This is an exploration of a certain kind of thinking and is absolutely acceptable. It only becomes a problem when it's removed from actual practice, and this hasn't been removed from any practice. Building a basis of thinking just from exploring ideas through discussion does have beneficial effects on whoever participates, and is in my view the entire reason why /sunflower/ or any community forms.

>If you let her in, yes.

The universe has no shape, it's void, nothing, and contains everything possible within it. Sex itself a manifestation of two kinds of energies.

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e15d8f  No.1136

>>1129

I won't believe that the universe in your mind or anyone else.

I believe in external entities and places, you may not believe it as maybe you are a materialist but you could be wrong.

In the end maybe you should ask Yuuka, I never seen her myself but some people here have.

I would trust her over anyone here, or any scientist when it comes to magic or the universe.

>>1134

I don't think the universe can ever be your mind even if you let it in, but thanks for defending this position.

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19f64c  No.1137

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I like what this video says about you and the universe. I feel the connection to this discussion.

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794872  No.1177

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Exercise 8: World state actuation

This is the first exercise meant entirely for the stage of adepthood, and as such, we are entirely concerned with the conceptual, or intellectual plane. Completion of exercise 5 is required to operate at this level of reality, it requires the perspective of the "eye" on top of the tower.

By first time that you access this state of being, you will have fully consolidated your Self as an archetypal simplification of the world structure, or literally the superlative principle of the world. If you have managed to maintain your sense of individuality in this state, the ego, then you should have a fully subjective perspective right now, seeing everything as an extension and aspect of your self. If you haven't, you're probably not reading this, as upon your consciousness dissolving into the All, you've lost your sanity.

Similarly, if you've maintained your individual will on this path, you have now become a hasnamuss of the third degree, having the foresight of the First Principle of everything.

These two points having been realized, you are now in a position to voluntarily act upon the concept structure of the world, at the a-physical and a-temporal level.

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794872  No.1178

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Enter a deep meditative state, and access the world structure under the mantle of the Author. You will notice that every virtual subject is governed by its imaginary potential, or soul, which by varying weights and biases, and governed by the principle of improbability, actuate a specific potential only when impelled by an external Event.

You may shift your perspective from the micro- to the macro-cosmic, and observe how this holds as true for vacuum chaos perturbations as it does for overarching concept-currents of persons, ideas, ideologies, and nations. By taking the place of an active observer, you can pre-set or bias the outcome of an Event towards any potentiality of your choosing, and turn it into an actuality. This holds true irrespective of the time, place, or scale of the thing you're influencing, with the only limitation is that the less likely your desired outcome is, the more effort it will take to over-rule the improbability principle in its favour.

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794872  No.1179

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Play around a bit, see what changes you can make at the physical, mental, and emotional level. Alter a foundamental law of reality. It's all up to you. The level of adepthood is the threshold of immortality. As a metaphysical first principle, you can no longer "die", as your being pervades all, and you may manifest yourself physically at any time and place of your choosing. At the same time, your present manifestation is still very local and temporal, and unless you choose to take the fun out of living and turn off your physical needs, you will likely want to force the world state in your favour, as you no longer depend on synchronicity to bring about a vague effortless prosperity, and can decide how and when to receive something. This doesn't mean you have unlocked god mode or anything, making large changes will require diligent practice and development, but you can still transition to a hands-off source of income with some creative manipulation of concepts and currents.

I personally recommend that you first work to de-realize the concepts of "disease," "aging," and "poison" in your perceived space, as well as to solidify your health and well-being as unalterable constants.

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8f2696  No.1536

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>>384

I want to learn how to do magic like the joker

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b46925  No.1546

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>>1536

Get in touch with the Magic Circle or whatever version of it you have in your country. They should be able to direct you to a local magic club where you can practice stage techniques and misdirection.

Joining the Circle itself is a lot harder, but definitely worth the effort if you're into stage magic, you also get to meet very skilled stage magicians, many of whom use actual, occult magic to augment their tricks.

Otherwise, reaching >>477 will help a great deal with overpowering people's will and directing their attention where you want it.

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853f7b  No.1605

>>1546

>illusionists that use real magic

I've thought about this a lot in the past. Really good illusionists (I don't call them magicians because magic isn't what they do and I think "magick" is a retarded and redundant term) can replicate feats that seem supernatural but are not. However, there are some things I've seen that have left me wondering if the illusionist in question does practice actual magic as well. David Blaine and Chris Ramsay come to mind. I've seen them do things that defy materialist explanation, and it wouldn't shock me to learn David Blaine was an occultist considering his fame and connections to the elite. Chris Ramsay once did a trick on MrBeast's channel that appeared to be a clear case of telepathy. The person he performed the trick on described receiving a message directly to the back of his head that was similar to a radio. The only possible alternative I can think of is that it was staged and planned beforehand, but the trick was part of a competition with a prize and Chris didn't win in the end anyway, so that explanation hardly makes sense. Maybe he used some device or something that made it possible, but I don't of anything that could do that. I'm not quick to call illusionists occultists, most of the time they're just good at their job, but there are those rare exceptions that are truly mind-boggling.

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52845e  No.1631

>>1605

I'm not familiar with that latter trick you mentioned, but directional speakers have been a thing for two decades now. Accurate enough to be audible to a single audience member at a range of 50 meters, last I remember. Not sure if they sound like a radio in the back of your head, but the entire part about a message 'sounding' at all really makes me think this was a traditional trick.

I've practiced telepathy, with a downright bizarre 100% success rate, and it's always interpreted by the receiver's subconscious. You might be a good enough telepath to completely overpower someone else's inner monologue, but the message will always sound like an internal, imaginary voice, with the voice being the closest to your intent that the receiver is familiar with. Same for other media like music or pictures. If the receiver has never heard the song you're trying to send, it'll sound like a hodge-podge of samples from other tracks that sound roughly analogous together.

What makes me pretty confident that at least some stage performers must use actual magic is how easy it is to energetically mark specific cards in a deck after even less than a month of occult study. If you're a good performer, even the most basic energy work should improve your skill massively.

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853f7b  No.1686

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>>1631

This is the video it comes from, the timestamp for the trick I was talking about is 10:50. It starts off with some standard stuff you've probably seen before if you watch illusionists often enough, but the end of the trick is what I found impressive. As for stage performers using real magic, I'm sure a few of them probably do, like I mentioned before I'm confident David Blaine is probably an occultist just based on who he is and the people he hangs around. When it comes to energetically marking cards, I doubt that's how they'd end up using it. It's very easy to just use physically marked cards and train your eyes to pick out which one is which. If someone were going to use real magic in stage tricks, I'd imagine they'd probably get a bit more adventurous or "flashy". But then again, little things can also go a long way.

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f5654f  No.1752

>>386

I have a questions. Quite a while ago, when I had absolutely no clue about anything about magic, I could simply form energy balls that created resistance in a matter of seconds. I didn't feel anything, just the resistance.

This has drastically changed since the beginning of this year however and I would like some insight on the matter.

Now, whenever I am in the state of doing anything with my energy, it feels like electricity is running through my body. It's very subtle, but can get to a point where

hair, especially in my face and scalp area, physically zaps, or at least if feels like it. It's also only present in my limbs and the head, not the torso. Whenever I try to form said energy ball like I always did, no matter how much concentration and time, it never causes any resistance despite my clear intention. Very rarely does it create resistance, but then it "dissolves" again, although I am sure that I can see the ball as a very subtle shimmer from time to time. There's also this slight pressure in my brain that rarely appears whenever I try to work with my energy.

Is this a bad sign? Did I mess something up? What's the best action I can take to build from my current situation.

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71722b  No.1760

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>>1752

The physical resistance you felt was due to tension. You likely mentally induced a state of tension in your arms around the area where you envisioned the ball. You can get the same effect, but between your hands, by holding them out, parallel to each other, palms open, and very slowly pushing them together, until there's a 1 cm gap between them. You'll feel the resistance increase with every second of pushing them together, until at the very last part you may even feel a dull and diffuse pain when pushing. Once that 1 cm gap is reached, move your hands closer together than further apart, very slightly.

The resistance feels exactly like trying to push two opposing magnets together, and you'll even see one hand following the movements of the other, as if really pushed away by a magnetic force!

You can create the opposite effect by slowly bringing your palms near each other, but by trying to hold them apart from a force pulling them together. At the 1 cm mark, pulling your hands apart is nearly impossible, and just holding them in place takes quite a bit of force. If you stop resisting the force, your palms will instantly collide with one another.

This phenomenon is etheric in nature, not magnetic, I've measured the magnetic flux next to and between my palms when doing this, and there's no change from the background magnetic field. I've not tested whether this works with beings external to you, but if you have a small animal handy, try creating tension between your hand and part of its body, and see if it reacts. In my experience animals react very strongly to energy work, and are especially receptive to telepathic intent.

I think the reason you couldn't do this with mental constructs anymore was that you've assumed them to be the same as the constructs described in most energy work guides. You were unknowingly using a very different force, specific to a field of its own, which requires different techniques to manipulate, and your practice with energy manipulation made you mentally override it with the more "normal" astral energy of the mental-emotional field, which behaves exactly as you described it.

I've actually made a pretty major mistake in writing the first exercise, in that my brain stopped working for precisely 5 seconds as I described the astral energy body as

>made up of vital, or etheric energy

which goes to prove that no amount of magic will ever cure one of being a brainlet.

That section is entirely concerned with astral energy work, >>482 is the first exercise which deals with the etheric stuff.

I'm acutely aware that this thread could have contributed to your confusion, what with the word salad and confusion of terms, but make no mistake,

>did I mess something up?

You didn't, I did. You can freely practice with both types of energy, as long as you can distinguish the two.

>what's the best action I can take

If you haven't yet, I'd recommend you learn to program astral energy >>475 as this is helpful for developing abstract reasoning and getting a feel for the intuitive nature of the mental dimension, otherwise >>477 is honestly the only way to really develop power and understanding, as the two are roughly analogous when dealing with magic and the occult. Once you have a basic grasp of energy work, practicing further doesn't result in stronger results, it simply improves your attention and conceptualization. Power, past that point, is derived from an understanding of the universal structure.

sage for shit thread

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6f8e5a  No.1777

>>1760

Don't be so harsh to yourself, at the end of the day the correction is in the thread.

I realized only by this post that I actually experimented with the other exercises on my own without realizing it.

I am very thankful for your response, as it helped me a lot, but want to touch on a slightly different subject now.

Telekinesis.

The only thing I can consistently do is wiggle things like the psi wheel, sometimes it even spins according to my will, but it's very unreliable.

There was one day where it just worked like a miracle for a long time, but I fail to replicate this sudden proficiency since then.

What I observed so far is:

- The intensity, range and speed of telekinesis is determined by the emotional state and mental focus. An emotional high and very relaxed mental "focus" leads to the best results in most cases.

- With time, the electrical feeling will rise to a specific point.

- The longer I focus on my intent, the less likely it will work.

- Imagination as an aid can be very helpful for a short burst, sometimes for quite some time.

- It is necessary to see the object in my case. There was an occurrence, actually one of the first times of performing this, where I opened my eyes after some affirmations and the object moved with

a burst right after that. But at the same time, when I don't directly focus my sight on the object, it works better than before.

But why is that so? There are so many variables to this ability it's frustrating. If you can share some insight on this matter, I would greatly appreciate it.

The only new thing I can think of and will try is

>otherwise >>477 is honestly the only way to really develop power and understanding

and getting better at forming powerful energy constructs, but I am probably missing the proper understanding to just make it work.

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