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4162a8 No.187

This thread will start off with a mass of seemingly unrelated information bits which I'll connect. I personally see them as an integrated system, the question is if this can be communicated?

This is the result of meditation and interactions with spiritual entities and it's very personal so I don't expect others to see the same things. But maybe you'll see some new perspectives.

These images conveniently turned up on /x/ just in time for the connections to be made. They were said to explain the creation of humanity, and I do agree. You can understand them as represening both the three steps of 1D, 2D and 3D or the bottom three chakras of the body which make up the base, but after accepting this view and meditating on it, the last bulb will appear to not merely reach the 3rd chakra but actually represent all levels above. I'll throw in a chakra map for reference as well.

In reference to the bible you'll find that god made light first, and light being a waveformed particle is one dimensional and as such corresponds to 1D or the root chakra. This is to explain the connections I see and the overall structure.

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4162a8 No.190

File: 43090266eb688f1⋯.png (25.85 KB,578x401,578:401,universal levels 15 -sigil….png)

File: 057c1f45edee2fd⋯.png (60.4 KB,1495x609,1495:609,universal levels 15.png)

These screencaps are from meguca/fringe/. I found them to correspond neatly with the bulbs in the first post. The "sigil's version" presents an even structure which fits into the first bulb or 1D, the root chakra.

The next screencap has a structure with 4 levels on top, the same structure being represented in bulb two as supporting bars by the top of the bulb. This then represents 2D or the sacral chakra.

The third bulb so far doesn't seem to be summed up by anyone so that's a work to be done, it would then be a description of chakras 3-7 or levels 3D-7D.

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4162a8 No.191

File: d397a787d05b53b⋯.jpg (163.92 KB,708x1060,177:265,kabbalah.jpg)

File: add64c084ba2a97⋯.jpg (124.98 KB,1003x1024,1003:1024,yggdrasil.jpg)

The Yggdrasil of old norse paganism may here be used to understand a double structure both seen in all three main levels represented in the bulbs, as the roots, the stem and the crown of the tree, and as the visible parts above ground versus the hidden parts below.

In kabbalah this is represented as the tree of life and the tree of death, qliphoth. You would be able to see this structure on all of the three main levels, with one visible side and one dark, mirror side behind, also representing the hidden and denied part of the human mind in Jung's psychology, referred to as shadow.

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4162a8 No.192

File: e2969e7e5e694ba⋯.jpg (82.21 KB,706x1000,353:500,Ran.jpg)

File: 05aac2cb121aac6⋯.png (40.83 KB,432x477,48:53,samurai emblem.png)

Next I'll move on to my own understanding and how I relate to these structures personally.

One time a number of years ago I saw a form in a dream and I had the thought that this was "my method", when I woke up I drew it on a piece of paper. It was a structure consisting of two joined hearts. I later saw this same form as a decoration on the clothes of a samurai in the movie Ran. I was unable to locate an image of this so I drew one in paint.

Relating this to the structure above, this represents bulb 1, 1D or the root chakra.

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4162a8 No.193

File: b63981392bf91b9⋯.png (14.94 KB,1024x1024,1:1,1024px-Odal_rune.png)

File: 10d2b9da4e306c6⋯.png (35.91 KB,675x518,675:518,odal rune.png)

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During interaction with a spiritual entity I've referred to as the silver lady, based on her silver hair, I was given a grimoire about the odal rune. This proved being deeply relevant to me and my past lives. Upon my entering into the reincarnation cycle I had cast a spell, which was to lead me up the the point of grasping the basic meaning of the odal rune from my own perspective. See pics for how this was linked.

It should be noted that other participants in the same session were given other runes with a similar meaning, based on their own inner nature.

The odal rune here relates to bulb 2, 2D, or the sacral chakra.

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4162a8 No.194

File: 2fef5ab02e15b17⋯.jpg (40.87 KB,439x679,439:679,ankh.jpg)

File: ecb1af3ea57352d⋯.jpg (13.01 KB,490x490,1:1,aum-om-ohm-symbol-vector.jpg)

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Lastly I saw this mere days ago. While it may not look like much, it also had a deep meaning to me personally, but I'll just post the obvious likeness here to present the connection.

What I saw was a form which would solve everything for me, and it turned out being in the shape of Ohm. Ohm placed on a staff and made into an artifact becomes an Ankh. In hinduism the word "aum" is said to be linked to the universe. This all connnected very beautifully.

This corresponds to bulb 3, 3D-7D or the solar plexus chakra all the way up to the crown chakra.

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4162a8 No.195

File: 4bb44fa5a007f12⋯.png (27.68 KB,746x473,746:473,sticky past lives.png)

File: 16b79dff8f7e776⋯.png (62.87 KB,436x383,436:383,Elysian fields access.png)

File: a60ac0246ab30d0⋯.png (1.98 MB,638x1000,319:500,Schwabe_Carlos_Elysian_Fie….png)

Now on to the human mind. When using the Elysian fields crest artifact (available in the meeting room on our egregore) you're transported to the Elysian fields which is the location between incarnations. You're free to do this manually but the artifact was made to aid this.

When looking at your past lives, you'd normally see a recording of them, and this recording is fixed in chronological order like an old tape recording or a rolled up scroll. What you see will be like the attached sketch.

The meadow is an image of you landing on the Elysian fields between incarnations, your memories being reset and your soul then being sent to be incarnated again. When attempting to unlock past lives' memories you will face karma created during each lifetime, and this will block you from seeing clearly what took place, unless you clear that karma. This makes the process difficult.

The past lives, (appearing as tunnels when using the artifact) are actually what we call tulpas.

This is the reason tibetan monks developed the method to begin with. Refer to https://www.tulpa.info/ for more information. By learning to create a tulpa, you learn how they function. This is useful when unlocking past lives memories and clearing karma. A tulpa is simply a human mind. Your past minds aren't deleted when you die, they're put away and compressed in this "recording", scroll or tube structure (may look like marshmallows in a tube, one pink and one white alternating for each life and each period between). If you are able to access a past life tulpa and switch to it, you become that person again, your past minds can be activated.

In your process of ascension you will have to clear your past karma. This method will aid that process.

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0472a1 No.200

>>191

>In kabbalah this is represented as the tree of life and the tree of death, qliphoth

That is a modern interpretation (you can call it “qabalah”). In Jewish Kabbalah, the qlippoth are shells of “wrong” encasing the sephiroth.

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f9c42b No.204

>>200

This is my understanding of the qlipoth as well. They're also called 'husks', and are the chaotic counter-impressions of the Divine emanations.

In a human, they are roughly equivalent with the development of the kundabuffer, the inverted kundalini, which stretches towards the infernal mineral kingdom beneath.

There's several occult schools which focus on developing the qlipothic faculties, and many involve working with qlipothic entities, which are crystallized corrupt thoughtforms, or demons. They invariable involve rituals opposed to the universal ethics, which, more often than not, are also heavily opposed to our transient morality.

Blood sacrifice is common, as is outright human sacrifice and ritual murder. Theft, rape, and other such activities are undertaken with a ritualistic intent.

For practitioners of these schools, it isn't uncommon for their divine essence to completely retreat from their bodies, leaving them as soul-less, empty husks, mere rational animals.

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4162a8 No.207

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>>204

>the kundabuffer, the inverted kundalini

It's a useful concept because it describes something existing, but I can't quite see where you're getting the impression that it's a bad thing, or how people can call it "satan's tail", when it's the sole reason a lot of people aren't killing themselves from despair this very moment. (assuming the understanding of "satan" is negative here, it was in the context saw it mentioned) How is it an inverted kundalini awakening? To me it just seems similar to combat morale or any kind of force giving people a reason to continue against overwhelming odds. Doesn't the concept itself of it being a buffer against the horrors of reality imply it's a psychological protection mechanism which can only gradually be seen through after the person can accept reality the way it is?

I can definitely see how a willfull development of this shielding can be beneficial both in yourself and in others. It could make you and your allies completely fearless.

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aa73bd No.347

>>195

I just wonder if everyone has this tulpa structure or wether there are people ”without past lives”, so to speak.

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4162a8 No.350

>>347

Some people I've worked with had only one past life or came directly in from having been an angel or other being before incarnating.

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fca25a No.395

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>>200

>>204

Or

OR maybe you could practice chaos or hebdomatry instead of (((kabbalah))) as it's just a shitty jew knockoff of the Tree of Wyrd.

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fca25a No.396

>>395

>phone autocorrects "hebdomadry" to "hebdomatry"

For what purpose

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4162a8 No.397

>>396

Appearantly it's a poem?

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22b092 No.399

>>395

>Kabbalah as we know it: 19th and 20th century interpretation of Jewish mysticism mixed with hermeticism and other western bits. Very systematized, vast and effective with proper mentorship.

>Kabbalah as practiced by internet occultists: watered down and misunderstood Golden Dawn magic. Basic but effective spiritual gains through simple exercises.

>Qlippoth: Misunderstood internet occultist kabbalah mixed with Catholicism for edgelords ("Satanism"). Can provide spiritual gains through hardship. Entities associated with it have good intentions. Practitioners usually infested by all sorts of shit though.

>Tree of Wyrd: Edgy spin on all of the above. The most watered down and distorted of all. Consists on indulging energy parasites and escapism. Actually fucks your afterlife up.

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213e38 No.629

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What does the 0D layer represent itself as? As I observed it from the perspective of an outsider on others, it's always a representation of a "collapsed existence," the entirety of a person's ideas and conception packed in a single layer. In myself it's exactly as I described, but it grows and more layers within itself develops. I also observed another layer even below that, although I noticed that almost immediately after first finding out the existence of the 0D-level but didn't understand it, so I ignored it. The level below from my very limited observation, represents itself as principles, words, anything binding and contracting that allows for the limitation that can express itself as life and death. From this simple understanding of this level, good and evil are representations of two different paths, one ultimately destructive to others and self-glorifying, the other destructive to the self and one's possessions, either leading to a form of ascension as long as moral standards are held to great importance. Morality being strictly defined as access to the laws of a certain level, and laws do exist both internally and externally even if it's not expressed in the form of a singular intelligence. Although law loses meaning in particular directions and is replaced by general intent and action of a single person, this mode of existence is looking at one representation of a binding act or word.

>>193

This looks like a representation of reincarnation, specifically the aspect of self-discovery and self-destruction in hopes of attaining internal stability. All things related to reincarnation, such as giving back what one owes to others, are also involved. Maybe.

>>195

I can't see my past life/lives. I can only see one image, a black haired somber man looking at a deep blue ocean while standing on a cliff's edge. Doesn't strike me as a picture of a past life.

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22b092 No.631

>>629

>a black haired somber man looking at a deep blue ocean while standing on a cliff's edge

Jump into the ocean and explore what’s deep under the waters.

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4162a8 No.634

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>>629

>I can only see one image, a black haired somber man looking at a deep blue ocean while standing on a cliff's edge. Doesn't strike me as a picture of a past life.

I first found myself unable to see my past lives as they were, instead seeing myself as a god in a different world, later descending into this human world. I was wrong however, it was a normal human life at a time just 130 years ago, and this was a breaking point of some kind. The human society was at a treshold and would soon after fall down into a state of collapse manifesting as the fall of the old monarchies and a state of world/cold war. Looking back to the period before, I was indeed a god by comparison, this is how low the modern world is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderer_above_the_Sea_of_Fog

When using the Elysian fields artifact, it may take a few tries and a raising of your own energy level to be able to reach the actual fields where you have an overview.

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213e38 No.635

File: d68f69902d92923⋯.jpg (426.76 KB,1000x1430,100:143,admech.jpg)

>>631

Nothing substantial was in the water. First thing was a giant black whale-koi fish lazily swimming around and watching a black abyss. Entering the abyss, a giant squid and crabs, more curious than dangerous, both entering into my mind as words like "Observation" and "Curiosity". Bottom of the initial ocean is white sand, the abyss a pale yellow.

>>634

TL;DR I'm not entirely sure I'm using the artifact for the intended target.

Based off of the things I observed and did to myself, I saw the need for my main conscious to leave my body and go somewhere else. Although I have complete faith in spirituality and of the existence of the spirit and soul, I doubt my own ability to observe reality in it's actual state, and since my faith is reliant on my ability to understand the laws of the universe it presents itself as a constant chink in my ability to progress. I've always soothed this paradox with the assurance that if I'm wrong in my assessment of how the universe works, I will suffer for the consequences, in hope that there truly is one all knowing being who can judge me truthfully and give my a just punishment. Either that or my fear of eternal damnation prevents me from seeing past it, but I can also see this insecurity as being the foundation for my desire for cultivation. Only mentioned because this has been my problem for the last three years, and stating it before saying the next thing helps as psychological buffering. Once my main spirit lift "I", or what I can comprehend "I" to be, created a new main spirit and left him to his own devices. Looking at my main spirit, which I can still see, the past lives present themselves normally. It presents itself as an arrangement of images tied together by a string. Really even this depends on the angle of observation, from another one I see it as a flowing river the slowly ascends upwards.

Before I saw the man I first saw a chaste princess who instead of being observation and patience was virtue and chastity. In the same image, the man replaced her, but I can still observe the woman if I move my mind towards her. I watched her life and it ended much the same as the one you've described with yourself but instead ending with her descending onto earth, she poked a hole in reality and made the soul I have now. Don't know if I can attribute that to memory or actually using the device, if I'm even using the device correctly.

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4162a8 No.636

>>629

>What does the 0D layer represent itself as? As I observed it from the perspective of an outsider on others, it's always a representation of a "collapsed existence," the entirety of a person's ideas and conception packed in a single layer.

This is from the view of the external, from the view of humanism. All these things must collapse for the real personality to manifest. All things such as race, morals, social classes, economic standards, material assets and possessions which are today used to define a person, these all must be mentally cut off or physically destroyed for the real person to develop. A genuine super human (to use the german concept in translation) may still use any material assets as he sees fit, but will never let himself(or herself) be defined by them. This remaining core is the 0D.

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213e38 No.637

>>636

I see it in the exact opposite direction. All material assets, possessions, race, morality, whatever it is, is an extension of the individual. It's for this reason that the 0D-0D particle has an ability to interact with everything above, and why it's the main driver for personality and the person himself. Even literally, the ability to comprehend and understand others, know technology and techniques for acquiring or assembling/creating items and goods, acquired skills is a realization of the person's innate facilities. While not literally being from the person himself it's telling that there's an innate ability to interact with others, meaning an existence isolated and pure to itself isn't a required concept for the 0D-0D. It goes as far as allowing for the individual to be a product of another person, although this can quickly descend into manufactured belief and falsehoods.

I wish I could make into words the things I see, I can only ever describe the most surface level of a thing using my lingual habits. No amount of words could be used actually describe the meaning of the particle using the English language. The more I think about it the more sides I see in it's ability to manifest as reality. This text will serve as another viewing of something I can understand very little of.

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213e38 No.638

>>637

I realize I'm thinking everyone has an 0D-0D particle. That's not true. Otherwise it's despair plus the choice of self-reliance or destruction.

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4162a8 No.639

>>637

>All material assets, possessions, race, morality, whatever it is, is an extension of the individual

If the person is a real super human, they are. If not, to a varying degree. For today's humans, I dare claim it is as I said:

>>636

>things such as race, morals, social classes, economic standards, material assets and possessions which are today used to define a person

People today are not in control, but they are mere consumers picking and choosing between the things that should be under their control. They think they are expressing themselves through what they consume, but they are from the beginning controlled by them. From birth onwards, few people rise above the material situation of their surroundings to assume control of it and redefine themselves as master of their own lives. Instead, they define themselves by what kind of upbringing they had, if it was rich or poor, and what groups they belonged to, and how they evolved from that position. Being herded along by society's expectations, they merely adopt the government approved life stories into becoming a person made of material assets, who stripped of them become nothing at all.

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213e38 No.640

File: 5e4bf14ac408712⋯.jpg (32.11 KB,320x279,320:279,Relax_enjoy_death.jpg)

>>639

For reasons too divine and demonic for my puny mortal mind to comprehend what I derived from this interaction was three mental items, two flowers and one wand. The wand is already posted, it's the wand being held by one of the adeptus mechanicus, the two flowers I left on a body of water in the temple. Flowers love water. I don't want any in-depth description or any explanation for their functions posted here.

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213e38 No.646

>>629

For the sake of completion, continued viewing of the device/dismantling and observation of the internal structure of the artifact, the image changed to a viewing of my current life in the form of a portrait/rough symbolisms. A blue-haired child watching over an ocean in an island nation, angrily trying to hold his ground against forces that he doesn't understand and more importantly doesn't like. Ends with him acquiring an homicidal attitude. I haven't looked into the external connective structure, mainly because I don't know how. The external structure looks more complex and meaningful than the base usage of the artifact.

Use on the intended target leads to observance of a semetic man worshiping/contemplating the christian God and his undead son, along with 7 other lives.

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4162a8 No.984

File: 0882b3b3ca27f84⋯.png (347.06 KB,1173x1013,1173:1013,chaos_evil_good_edit.png)

https://pastebin.com/CSXTEv8z

A reference to connect this cap to the previously posted sketches.

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