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087d00  No.1

Welcome to the Sunflower!

This board is for the discussion and organization of ascension and enlightenment related activities.

Board rules

1. Stay on topic

2. Start a new thread only if a related one doesn't exist, or if it has reached bump limit

3. Anime/manga images may spice up a discussion, but keep it decent

4. Trolling or derailing with ill intent is not allowed

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087d00  No.16

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There's been some issues in trying access the board, showing an error page. According to the 8kun admins it's a combination of some site wide issues and that you have to make a thread for the board to show. But there's plenty of things to show here already, so that can't really be the problem now can it?

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a5b55c  No.20

>>1

shouldn't you be honest with them and mention how you're from the Succubus Collective? I know you need loosh, but don't be rude about it. Many people will willingly enslave themselves if you give them a good enough reason.

>I wanna cum a lot!

easiest way ^

ya feel me?

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087d00  No.21

>>20

This group was originally created for those who couldn't join the Succubus Collective but who were still interested in the movement and methods used in the Collective, aka "the keikaku."

As long as you're interested in improving yourself on the path of immortality or the occult you can take part here and benefit from it.

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a5b55c  No.22

>>21

gotcha, thanks for the clarification <3

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77a124  No.32

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>>21

>the Succubus Collective

Tell me more~

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087d00  No.35

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2418d8  No.47

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>>35

>Blog: https://succubuscollective.wordpress.com/

>A common way to discuss the location of humans in the cosmos, is to start by identifying our living space as the three dimensional world – 3D. Logically, this leads to the conclusion that there also exists a 2D and a 1D. Humans normally refer to the two dimensional world as the underworld, or hell

>From this we can see that 2D was simply a cemetary in the eyes of humans, and for spiritual entities it’s just another place still. 1D being just length with no other dimensions included, appears as a canal. It may be obvious once spoken, but not the first thing the reader thinks of, so let’s jump right in. In the body, this canal appears as the connection between the womb and the outside world. The womb is the place of no dimensions, where life is formed.

I would like to know more about 0D specifically, but also 1D. I can understand the concept of 2D, but from there on, things get confusing. Can someone exist in 1D or 0D?

If I'm not mistaken, the ability to create life in the physical womb means there is a direct connection to 0D there, and maybe undead creatures or other kinds of immortals do have that connection too, right?

What other analogies can help grok what 0D is and how to connect with it?

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087d00  No.53

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>>47

>I would like to know more about 0D specifically, but also 1D. I can understand the concept of 2D, but from there on, things get confusing. Can someone exist in 1D or 0D?

An essence can exist there. The womb is a gate of chaos or void. If the body is a society, the womb is a nuclear power plant. Something can exist there, anything can exist there, but to humans it cannot be perceived properly.

In chinese medicine it is referred to as the dantian field, exising in both men and women alike.

Something one dimensional, apart from being the path of creation, may be a thought, or a frequency of radition, light. "Let there be light" is what the creator says in Genesis of the Old Testament. It is the first visible creation coming out of the chaos of the "womb."

If humans uncontrollably enter this stage, you get something like what's implied by the classic horror comic "Enigma of Amigara Fault."

https://imgur.com/gallery/Wht7z

If you wanna get an idea of what happens with people who go full materialist after they die, this is what you will find at the bottom of hell. You can see it on the mentality of some people that their souls are already down there. That's why this comic hits so hard. This is the opposite of the creative force at the one dimensional level.

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065a2d  No.55

>>53

I get it. It's quite terrible.

I need to form a connection to the bottom without losing coherence.

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071fa4  No.60

>>21

How can you even tell in an unbiased way that you got into the Collective? I've received several indications but how I am not merely deluding myself?

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087d00  No.63

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This thread is for board meta discussion so let's try to move other topics to their own threads from now on!

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5e05ec  No.87

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Looks like this board was created on 8kun.

How long does the moderation take to aprove your board? I'm trying to open a board, I've already waited three days and nothing. How long did they take to open your board, BO?

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087d00  No.91

>>87

>How long does the moderation take to aprove your board?

I think it took 2 days.

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5e05ec  No.92

>>91

Three days already passed, do you think I should assume they didn't approve my board?

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087d00  No.93

>>92

They could just be busy, the site malfunctioning or your board wasn't approved based on its topic.

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5e05ec  No.94

>>93

I oppened that board just to check the Board Owner dashboard, didn't know it would took this much to be approved or denied. I miss when board creation used to be instantaneously.

Do you know if I'm going to get a deny notification if they don't approve my board? I would ask this on /sudo/ but that board is not working.

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087d00  No.95

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>>94

>Do you know if I'm going to get a deny notification if they don't approve my board?

Sorry no. My application went through so I don't know. I get the feeling the attacks on the site are slowing things down, making e-mails bounce etc so maybe try again? But if you didn't have a real idea for a board maybe that's the reason.

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5e05ec  No.96

>>95

Okay, dont' worry. Thanks for helping anyways. I just submitted my actual board idea, so I will help a week.

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c441d8  No.110

I was waiting for someone to create this kind of board and I'm happy something finally popped up. The only thing bothering me is anime aesthetic, it puts me off. Is it really necessary?

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c620f8  No.111

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>>110

It's an energy thing. It's getting a bit messier than what it was when the board opened, but that's to be expected.

Try to look at the energy. Get rid of your hindering prejudice.

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087d00  No.112

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>>110

>The only thing bothering me is anime aesthetic, it puts me off. Is it really necessary?

Short answer: yes.

Long: This is one aspect of a movement which started to form based on a sentiment around 2014-15. The network of spiritualist wordpress bloggers had reached its peak building on a theme of succubus/satanism. This overflowed and connected with the dying remains of tumblr and general new age. On imageboards the incel movement didn't have a name yet, /pol/ hadn't reached peak toxic masculinity and the MGTOW part of /fringe/ hadn't fully taken over.

This lead to connections between these different cultures and groups into what looked like a common interest. A will for cultural, spiritual and political change with occultism and sexuality as the means of propelling changes in society.

Over time it soon became clear that the diversity of this sentiment's adherents was not a strength. As a result, it was split into "far right" terrorism, which shut down a number of imageboards, INCEL terrorism which provoked further division, a rise of female occultists online (witch youtubers) and Trump supporting cultism, in lack of a better word. Add to the mix: Joy of Satan shills, honeypot movements like Atomwaffen, brittish Order of Nine Angles, and the new age, alien believing hippies who consider the ruling elite to be "evil satanists."

One step in either direction will place you in a narrow, toxic and streamlined group. All of whom oppose each other and accuse each other of supporting whatever evil establishment they see as the enemy.

We don't want that shit here. As a symbol of rising above the drama and division, the sunflower grows towards the sky and the light. This place is for people with skill and potential for spiritual growth, no matter what your ideology is.

The eastern way, 東方, touhou, has provided us with support in doing exactly this. It's a diverse world where yokais and humans can coexist. There is fighting within the group, but it's contained and doesn't impair the overall goal. We need to maintain this idea and repel those wanting to cause division. If posting anime images can do this, so be it.

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8833f6  No.130

>>112

>toxic masculinity

>MGTOW

>INCEL terrorism

>/pol/ is guilty of what it has been accused of by the mainstream press

Are you for real? How can you claim to be for spiritual growth if you are so dishonest?

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087d00  No.131

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>>130

The sunflower group does not support political activism, such as those types you mention. Leave those by the door when coming here please.

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7f8c4b  No.136

>>131

>The sunflower group does not support political activism,…

Then why do you do it? That is my very real question. Nobody would find it strange if you got annoyed by the political lobbyism attacking imageboards and that you want a place without it, however this post >>112 reads less like "we don't want political lobbyism" and more like "we got owned by all these evil right winger groups". The post also reads like something written by somebody not native to image boards and their culture.

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f874d0  No.137

>>136

At risk of engaging when I shouldn’t, I’ll say the types of people he mentioned only know how to wallow in despair and spread it wherever they go. They are a disease. The other side of the coin to the also diseased “left” we find in shallow Gamergate and SJW activism. If you consider being right wing or a conservative an important part of your identity you’d do well to search for healthy and intelligent expressions of it such the Hoover Institution YouTube channel and IRL discussion and exchange of ideas as well.

I think it’s a good idea too keep any of it out of this board, as the people it’s intended for are preoccupied in much broader issues than fabricated polarization topics such as this you two are talking about.

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087d00  No.139

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>>136

>Then why do you do it?

This board is not for any organization or advocation of street activism, we practice in private and do not push our views outside of the group.

>"we got owned by all these evil right winger groups".

It's a fact that hosting terrorism is harmful to the website. This is why we are now on 8kun and not chan. From another perspective we could successfully have hosted this board on a website running meguca since that makes for interesting ways of interaction well suited for real time group sessions. But given past experiences with this, it would put a lot of pressure on the website owner, something which would be both troublesome and unfair in the case of doing this on a more laidback /a/ related website.

To be very clear, the topic of this board itself will be likely to attract the kind of things we do not want. There's a fine line here, and unfortunately a lot of people can't sense that. Is the ONA a rightwing group? Some people would say so. In my view it's a legit occult group which has been attracting right wing movementarians. These people come and go and they create an image of connections to modern, brittish or american "nazis."

If they had been real nazis, they'd stick with the german occultism inherent to their own movement, but they don't because they don't feel it, they don't see it.

Same with Varg type "paganism" and satanism, it's essentially completely disconnected from brittish or german occultism, it's an isolated norwegian/swedish movement.

What we have here is people who understand very little coming in and thinking these are all the same, using a very shallow view. We may be "white supremacists" in the sense that we treat the white race as the factually ruling race, created by the most powerful deities. This still has nothing to do with fantasies and delusions of recreating Rhodesia and reinstituting some american 1950s christian welfare state. We also do not support "traditional gender roles" which only existed in the post war decade in a geographically restricted area (USA).

The reason? It's irrelevant.

>The post also reads like something written by somebody not native to image boards and their culture.

By this you seem to be implying that being a right wing, MGTOW, INCEL real life terrorist is somehow original imageboard culture?

4chan for a long time was a leftie, atheist, pro LGBT place. Anonymous gained support for being a "hacker collective" supporting these values. They were also animal rights activists. This is your valued "native" culture.

What's been going on here at 8chan/kun is a product of the PlayStation2 generation who grew up fed sloppy direct rendered remakes of classic game series, which made all games streamlined into playing and looking like FPS.

So girls play games now? Who cares, just play the games. But that's the real problem here, isnt it? Most games released in the past 20 years are the same. Instead of just playing with your friends and having fun you get involved with political activism and start pushing for "traditional" christian or right wing values, things which never existed before.

These are the things which are not welcome on this board: political activism framed as being something else.

Posting about gender roles in video games? That's not discussing games, that's politics. Posting opinions such as "only men can reach enlightenment, buddha said so", that's not an esoteric discussion. That's politics framed as religion.

"You are left wing, do not use the right vocabulary etc", that's not relevant here. You can have any political opinion on this board, because we do not hold ideological discussions here.

Talk about your practice. Take part in the sessions. Improve your skills.

That's what this board is for.

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029edd  No.148

>>139

>This board is not for any organization…

Yet your post was a political statement, full of lingo belonging to what the other anon so adequately described as the "diseased left". Unless I missed the sarcasm when you wrote about "toxic masculinity", you actually subscribe to the rotting ideology that gave birth to these words. You could have corrected this impression but you didn't.

The origin of the exodus from 4chan to 8chan lied in the subversion of the moderators by the "diseased left", who always claimed to be apolitical yet keep hitting on anything "right", even if what was "right" was only labeled as such for convenience. Your post reminded me of such behavior. There are many boards, both here on 8kun and the Webring that have made and managed to create rules against obnoxious politicking. Not a single one used such political lingo.

>It's a fact that hosting terrorism is harmful to the website.This is why we are now on 8kun and not chan.

Its a fact that 8chan never hosted "terrorism", everyone saying that is a liar. The material posted on /pol/ was also posted on other more mainstream public media sites and those weren't shut down. Anyone with a little bit of brain would know that the terrorism accusation was only an excuse to shut 8chan down. Similar excuses can be made with less serious things and you are just as vulnerable as /pol/ in that matter should you ever get the ire of some political group.

>By this you seem to be implying that being a right wing, MGTOW, INCEL real life terrorist is somehow original imageboard culture?

No, the point is that as somebody with experience of image boards and their history, you should have the background information on how, why and when things happened on image boards. You should also get the joke behind some of those things, as a lot of activity is just shitposts to have fun.

Your post sounded like it came from a Kotaku writer, full of false claims and half truths to push a narrative. INCEL and MGTOW are joke movements fueled by public hysteria as they are a symptom of the falling social order, yet together with the false terrorism claim and "toxic masculinity" they became the driving force of what drove you from the promised land. Even this new post of you continues the trend of making bullshit political claims, only to run away and complain how others mask their political opinion as spiritual topics.

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087d00  No.149

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>>148

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/halle-germany-shooter-meguca-anime-manifesto

This is what happens if you allow /pol/fags to share website with the things you care about. The site is ruined and has to disappear. It's an expression of masculinity, and it's toxic, hence the label "toxic masculinity" fits right in.

The MGTOW mentality was strong on later /fringe/, to the point it was impossible to hold honest conversations. Yet these were original /fringe/ banners.

If you wanna be a faggot and hate women, you are free to do so, but not on this board.

There are currently 309 boards on this website, surely there are boards better suited to your taste?

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f874d0  No.150

>>148

Just don’t let yourself be triggered by one person’s take on this. I think that’s the whole point of not mixing subjects.

>>149

>hating women

What?

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087d00  No.152

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>>150

>What?

I've made my standpoint clear. This must not become /fringe/, because that board included in its fabric the materials which would bring its destruction. /sunflower/ is not for ideological discussion. I used a word which correctly describes the behaviour of the /pol/ type of people and this triggered anon because he does what he accuses others of - treating his own biased political stance as neutral and attacking anything that doesn't conform to it.

For example, if someone used the term "shadow" from Jung's psychology, should anon then accuse the poster of being a zionist because Jung built on Freud, who took his original world of concepts from jewish kabbalah? That kind of thinking falls under "derailing with ill intent", not allowed under rule 4.

Keep the ideologies outside of this board please.

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f874d0  No.158

>>152

/fringe/ did have the seeds of its destruction in it, the same way everything does. Including this board.

After the madness with the vampire threads I was forced to look deep in order to understand why it is that we age and die, and I came to see astrally what I had only read about until then. Death, transformation, is inevitable in all things, and it is an indispensable part of any thing being created the same way the Three Laws of Robotics were indispensable for positronic brains to work at all in Isaac Asimov’s novels. Nothing gets to Malkuth without passing through Binah first. What this really means is that nothing can be conceptualized in this universe without its end being included in the package as well. I saw this energetically and understood it at last. It was fascinating, but enough rambling.

You decide your board’s rules, but don’t think for a second it is not fated to die once its job is done. You can’t enforce that away. /fringe/ had contact points with /pol/ that served as an entryway for disenfranchised people to enter the outer sanctum. Those that were fit to, outgrew this and passed onto the inner (I used to be one of those original left-leaning anons in /b/, then a nazi romantic in /pol/, and then I found /fringe/ and understood what it was all about). That’s why /fringe/ had that ideological component. And it was very elegant because as you said it caused its death when it was time. I’m rambling a lot sorry. There’s a point in there though.

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087d00  No.159

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>>158

>don’t think for a second it is not fated to die once its job is done

That is entirely correct. But anything can die in two ways:

1) too early, as a failure

2) after reaching saturation when death is the only piece missing

If /fringe/ had anything more to do it would have survived losing its last platform, but it didn't. That still doesn't change the fact that the /pol/ association made it impossible to restart the board. The area it rested on has turned into quicksand. It was actually attempted on the new meguca, but the locals freaked out and would have banned the board if it was left up because - as they phrased it - /fringe/ brings the legacy of Smiley and that brings /pol/ and then we'll lose our home again because some retard shoots up a synagoge and posts about it.

/sunflower/ has shed its skin a few times already before reaching the point when going public was the only way forward. There was never a /pol/ connection even if general racial views may overlap and most notably the things now mostly associated with /r9k/ was never a part of it. Establishing here means being exposed to already existing notions of what a certain type of board is supposed to be, before its characteristics are either solidified or it fails. For this reason proper distinctions are needed.

There is something which needs to be done here, which will be exposed step by step as anons come in and take charge of their own growth.

After the foundation is in place and an understanding has settled in, it may be possible to go deeper into the lore of what this is.

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f874d0  No.161

>>159

This is a surprisingly mundane way of looking at it. There is at least one /fringe/ board that is more active than this board, and I wouldn’t be surprised if nobody over there knew who Smiley was. It’s a new generation. /fringe/ is an initiatior board.

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087d00  No.162

>>161

>at least one /fringe/ board that is more active than this board, and I wouldn’t be surprised if nobody over there knew who Smiley was.

If you're talking about xchan it's hardly active (who will find the site anyway) and not knowing about Smiley won't remove the board culture. The place reeks of armchairism and the same kind of detached mentality.

Some people are now using the term "fantasy based martial arts" for styles like aikido which were developed in total isolation from the situations they were meant to be used in. What's taking place over there is fantasy based occultism.

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087d00  No.239

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If anyone feel like using the meeting room

>>3

for private sessions or testing of some kind and want better syncing there's a Skype group for this purpose.

https://join.skype.com/jqQEfmiEhsPO

If you just want to chat that's fine too. It doesn't require registration to join.

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