/sunflower/ - Sunflower

After getting accustomed to working with the artifacts, you may want to try this large scale session for aiding your ascension process:

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>>4

>If you look further you will find a bathtub in the back of the room, use it for a relaxing and cleansing bath.

>Try them out!

I did try it out and now wonder what the hell is up with your bath? I've never had this kind of result from taking an astral cleansing bath until now. When I was lying in bed last night I visualized how I went into the bath for a cleansing and as soon as I visualized myself entering the water a silent "boom" went through my whole body in the physical world while I was lying in my bed. It was like a shock went through me and everything went absolutely silent for a couple of seconds. All the internal noises in my mind, all the outsides noises that I would hear, it suddenly all went completely silent…just the very second I imagined entering the bath. I honestly didn't expect that kind of instant physical reaction. Then when everything came back some kind of terror and anxiety came over me and I wasn't able to sleep for half of the night. No idea what the hell happened but I could only lie in my bed, trying to calm myself and to fall asleep and meanwhile to keep thinking about lots of stuff ( I even thought the bath might have been a trap). Eventually I fell asleep and when I woke up this morning I felt pretty good tbh. A lot of clarity and relaxation came to me and I have made up my mind about some things that were bothering me. It's like a layer of insanity was cleansed from me and I found back on the right track.

Anyone else experienced this kind of stuff? Either I am completely crazy, mad & insane or your bathwater has some real BANG to it.

>>4

I got the black pearl, but there's something I'd like to understand better about it. I don't dare use it until I know.

When expectations are projected into it, are they realised in the future or neutralised? The upper paragraph seems to suggest this pearl is for manifesting things, but the lower paragraph got me confused because it seems to talk about relieving attachment.

>>50

>The upper paragraph seems to suggest this pearl is for manifesting things, but the lower paragraph got me confused because it seems to talk about relieving attachment.

The first part is for standard usage. The lower part is for a full activation of the pearl, meaning it can be used at full effect and your mind adapts to the state needed to do this. The idea is to charge the pearl with positive energy and then feed all the negative blockages into the pearl to let the positive overcome the negative, using the pearl. This will give you a clear vision from here all the way until leaving the karma sphere. It still only shows what you look for though.

It should be noted that full activation (of any artifact) may require a linked session to be performed. Use the silver tray together with at least 2 other participants, and do the full effect meditation with the pearl placed on the tray to achieve a higher energy level.

>>4

Is it a coincidence that both the silver tray and the crest look like pussies?

Especially relevant in the case of a past life access artifact I must say.

I might unironically do a pussy diving meditation.

>>77

They're not intentionally made to look like anything, the design is entirely functionalistic.

The silver tray is an adaptation of an original artifact which is a sacrificial knife. The visions it gave people scared them and it couldn't be copied, so the silver tray was made as a sharable abstraction of a relevant part of its function.

>>79

Your energy is beaming out from the post so it must've done something even if you don't feel much.

So I did the super session yesterday. Tried gensyoko then tried vampire gensyoko combo. Also tried just not using the ritual and doing it myself with the artifacts from a chest.

Will do again in perhaps a year or so if not complete.

>>369

There's also an opposite of this, for positive effects, it's a pink crystal. Same usage but for creating positive effects for yourself or others.

After telepathic contact with the group behind

>>>/nothingness/

we received a nanobot device for communication with them. It has been installed in the middle of the meeting room table.

Material is black with a matte finish, shape is geometrical, size about a half honey melon with the flat side down.

As a heads up, this is long even though I’m only describing ~20mins. I’m sharing everything to receive feedback. This was my first time visiting any astral world, so I only experienced it in vague fragments.

1/?

I think I met Yuuka before noticing the Gazebo. I visualized the Gazebo earlier in the day as I read the tutorial, but she stood out with a coy but warm smile, sitting across a candlelit wooden table, the surroundings simultaneously the interior of a wooden house and the outdoor gazebo, as I was rereading the tutorial. I greeted her, she greeted me back. I asked how she was. She responded positively, asked me the same. I felt rude that she didn’t have my full attention, so I asked for a moment before giving her my undivided attention and she said “certainly.” Then, I lied down and closed my eyes and immediately entered a trancelike state (which I’m not used to happening so quickly). I’m unsure if she asked again or the question came back to me as if it actually happened again, but I responded to the effect of, “I don’t feel I can honestly answer that question because I barely understand myself. I’ve come here to gain understanding if you’d like to help me out.” I didn’t notice at this point that my actions felt out of my control, because I genuinely felt great and would’ve just told her that instead.

Anyway, she responded positively to my request. We probably communicated for a few seconds that I wasn’t conscious of. She asked if I’d be willing to grant her permission to do anything to me. I responded, “no.” She, “wise.” A translucent demonic female face appeared in my physical eyes to fade away, which I initially was suspicious was her actual form, with the anime appearance serving to deceive (but now I think it was just her making fun of my fear).

After thinking back on it, I think she “restarted” my visit at this point, while making me think I was responsible for it restarting. If so, she also made me show off an obnoxious, braggadocious side of me.

I was so suspicious I had imagined everything that I restarted twice by visualizing the gazebo. I started counting the indentations on one of the columns to find I couldn’t count how many there were. At this point I noticed everything had sped up to an insane degree, as if my mind was racing at the fastest it’s ever been, and my heart physically began beating heavily. I asked for a pen and received one in my left hand (odd as I’m right handed) either from Yuuka, who I now noticed was wearing red, green and yellow, or someone else I confused for her. I drew a line on an indentation with my left hand, walked around again a few times and counted 6 indentations, but I wasn’t confident. I asked for a “magic eraser,” was handed a dirty small orange/red towel from the same entity and cleaned the pen mark. I possibly blanked out before walking around the entire gazebo to count the amount of columns. I stopped, stood and noticed 6 column, and I expected 5 for some reason. I joked with someone next to me (who was probably a user of this board) that 5 would be more appropriate to signify a pentagram, and you responded clarifying that you aren’t Satanists.

>>813

3/3

We were back at the area that was simultaneously an outdoor gazebo and wooden candlelit interior. I saw 6 people sitting symmetrically across from each other while I sitting at an end of the table, the other end too dark to see if anyone was sitting there. You all looked the same to me, like a copy and paste of the same early 20th century russian official, all wearing a brown expensive coat, sporting a short, groomed hair and facial hair. I clarified that I was striving to see your actual forms to find that you had become touhou-like characters, but were all physically larger than me like >>134 mentioned. I made myself larger and you in turn, alongside the room, mockingly became much larger than me. I was like, “let’s just agree to be the same size” and we shifted to the same size.

What followed was like a hazing. I remember everything moving at an absolutely insane speed with you shouting criticism at me as I spoke and responded instantly with egoistic shit that was expressed without my control. It was like soberly observing myself as drunk - my astral body spoke without consideration while my lucid physical mind felt embarrassed. I began physically meditating to control my astral body, and you berated me for doing it while lying down. You told me to sit up, so I did, and you criticized my posture. You told me to sit up with my back on the wall, and I did (I later lied down again and you berated me back to sitting upright). You continued criticizing my meditation and made me realize that part of why this was coming in vague fragments was because I meditate by only becoming aware at the beginning of breathing in and out, as opposed to staying aware. So, my concentration is poor.

I unintentionally started acting more braggadaciously. I made light of your insults, treated them as a challenge, and told you to actually try and distract me while pounding my chest. I then demanded you bring in my love interest to both show her that I could overcome your challenge and so she could meet the actual Alice (accidentally called her Reimu), who’s one of her favorite 2hus. I accidentally referred to her as a he first before immediately saying “she,” which she was horrified by as you started berating me for it (she’s trans, although I was taken aback that I made that mistake myself since I’ve always known her as female). A couple of you started consoling her while the rest continued berating me. I felt you were just trying to break me down so I could grow, but was also suspicious you were genuinely disappointed with me.

To whoever whispered at that point to reassure me that I was doing well and that they and you were just breaking me down for my own good, thank you.

After Yuuka tested me by telling me to bow to her, I resisted the gravity pulling me to down to remain upright. After all, you did tell me to sit upright. The hazing ended. I was very briefly praised by her or another 2hu. I thanked her alongside Flandre(?) and a black haired girl who told me her name was Alice. I also want to thank you who were there for helping me.

I asked Yuuka for a sign this was real, and she said she would give me one. I told her I’d respect her efforts by coming back after training more. I bid farewell, she and those of you there did the same, but I didn’t know how to leave. For about 20mins after leaving the trance, I still faintly saw her smiling at me from across the wooden table.

After this, someone who normally doesn’t entertain anything spiritual suddenly asked me, “it’s a strange existence we live in, yes?” I took that as the sign. Also, before posting this, I had to fill out the captcha 6 times, which motifs 6 as recurring to me. Afterwards, I attempted to post this 6 times due to connection errors and fitting the post in the word limit.

Although, I looked up the touhou characters afterwards and found Reimu introduced herself as Alice which makes me think only part of this was real.

>>814

I also just remembered that at some point early on, I used the tray and saw a pink orb rise and connect me and others by the table (which had suddenly gone from rectangular to round) with a thread. I physically felt something when it happened. I saw it in the third person which made me skeptical that it didn’t work, so I redid it but the exact same thing happened.

>>818

Thanks for explaining.

>you asked the christian god

I thought I believed in God as being a combination of love, discernment, the pure awareness of being that everyone can "rise" to. Yet it might actually be that Christian dogma is still making me believe in an external God.

>See? But its likely this was all an illusion

Do you mean that it was a simulation she put me in (like the russian official part), or I imagined that part and wasn't actually interacting with anybody else? Is there a way to discern my own imagination from actual interaction with others on the astral?

>someone helped you

Thanks anon!

>>820,

Thank you for your feedback, explanation, and advice.

>giving yourself over to external influences

This is definitely a problem for me. Less in terms of giving into influence, but more in terms of having my focus on what feels intuitively right easily disrupted, so my thoughts and actions feel impotent and wasteful.

I don't feel like I strive to believe nor do I try to uphold anything. I don't have desire to deviate because it makes me feel weak. Even calling it deviation feels weird, because it's not something I consider. I rely on the intuitive feeling of whats right while being skeptical of whether what I feel is actually true or an egoistic illusion. What's right isn't opposed to evil in the traditional sense. This post is already going to be long so I won't go further into my beliefs there.

I fully agree with you about modern Christianity being problematic, and I personally would connect it back even to ancient Christianity. As soon as "Christianity" became a religion, the teaching was probably distorted.

I actually haven't been around Christian stuff for a while and have a heretical interpretation of the bible. I have a hard time believing your description of God as I feel God has spoken with me before. Its like a very familiar, unintimidating paternal voice that's totally in control, but makes you also feel liberated and powerful as it steps in to "get you back on the right track" if you show interest in willing to be there. The "right track" doesn't evoke puritanism, but it naturally involves Christlike purity through a realization that your deep-held desire for love is fulfilled through this path. There's a feeling of familiarity and, something that brings to mind the idea of an undeniable expression of who you truly are, at the same time to call it that, alongside anything else, is self-defeating, since it feels connected with all others too. The experience marked a change in my life where I began feeling far closer with and understanding of other people, which is why I have no room for doubt that it was something else. There was more I gained too, but that feels like the most important thing.

>mixing the blood

Is this for play, since I understand everything is already connected? That is, it'd serve to correct the side of you that thinks it is independent, as opposed to actually changing something on a spiritual scale?

>>820

On second thought, you may have confused God for the demiurge. The demiurge is described as "unwaveringly just" and hateful. I understand the demiurge as just a metaphor for what's loosely represented by the concept of the psychological ego. I think that's the foundational teaching of Gnosticism (even if many Gnostic texts don't actually understand that) and what the God of the OT represents (and sometimes Christ). Both in Gnostic mythology and in actual psychology, it still stems from God, making it a reflection of God in a sense. But the reflection serves to help you reach what's actually "there."

>>821

>it'd serve to correct the side of you that thinks it is independent, as opposed to actually changing something on a spiritual scale

It'll work in a way similar to sharing blood or familial relations with someone else. It's temporary. It works in the same as a blood oath, except the mindset and completion of the contract is different and thus provides a different mental response. Things related to the finger and hands are helpful in establishing relationships. Try placing your finger in someone else's mouth with the mindset of asking for forgiveness, for loyalty, to show submission, or to show trust. The finger can easily be bitten off.

>>824

>I like the idea of being judged by an all knowing… being

Relying on my experience, God is definitely the most critical presence. It's like a seemingly gentle teacher that will give vague compliments to the work of most of his students that don't show much interest in improving. He still grades his students harshly. When the students show up to complain about the grade not matching his feedback, he kindly provides the students with small, vague feedback, while expecting them to not actually improve until something happens to change them.

Then you show up, take the class seriously, and impress him with your work. He speaks with you after class and compliments your work before asking you for permission to help you improve. You agree. He goes sicko mode on you and chains you to his basement, starves you and tortures you as you're forced to produce work that meets his expectations. No matter how hard you work, he continues to get more disappointed and infuriated. He personally criticizes you through your work, pulling out things you didn't even know happened in your life, until you come to totally hate yourself, see yourself as worthless enough that you give up and produce a work that comes from a place of total sincerity that takes barely any effort.

To your surprise, he accepts it. At that point, you realize that the chains weren't locked, that you actually have no injuries, you were fed with the most nutritious food, and suddenly, have strength and clarity. The front of kindness you saw him show in class is now removed and you see something indescribable that doesn't evoke anything to do with kindness, but produces enough love from you that you turn to hug him, and as he hugs back, you vaguely feel the force of every possible existence's best form hugging you back, alongside something far greater than all of that. In the midst of the force being returned to you you feel your own presence stand out, even though your conception of your presence isn't your actual presence, and you come to regard it without taking it seriously.

I think we probably already agree about all of this. I just wanted to clarify for the sake of understanding and, in case you find anything of value here.

Tl;dr, I don't mean a maternal love. Its a brutal, torturing force that heals and makes you stronger. And the force is unbearably familiar, like it belongs to you.

>Gnostic traditions…

I fully agree. I dislike Gnosticism too and believe it was fully corrupted from the beginning. That doesn't mean that I think truth wasn't trying to express itself through Gnosticism though, its just that its followers were too obsessed with escapism to let it come to fruition.

Like you, I also believe comfort, as something to seek, is unnecessary. Nor do I believe in a deity that's metaphysically separate. Like you might want to imply, it seems every philosophy and expression expresses something that can't allow for a metaphysically separate deity and a totally systematic reality.

>>825

Got it, thanks again, and for going further in detail with the symbolism of it.

>>826

I also wanted to add that I think part of why Christianity is so corrupted is because people probably treat it as Gnosticism in disguise. Both Gnostics and a lot of xtians treat their pain as a "test" associated with their temporary condition. The latter sees it as a test to prove your loyalty to God, the former sees it as the demiurge trying to make you give up. In neither is it made the sole focus that there might be something to learn from it. The ordinary xtian conception of heaven as being a painless place where nothing has meaning is similar to the existence Gnostics strive for. And so forth

A portable volcano chalice has been placed by the edge of the meeting room to absorb any hostility attempting to enter. Feel free to copy it if you want one.

>>1237

Stirner was a suck, there isn't any more need for argument with that. Benevolence includes both selfless and selfish actions, so whatever distinction you're trying to make doesn't fit within the view of the dagger.

>>1249

I tried replicating the knife using female thinking by using that specific knife as the basis of it. Just turned into a replication of male thought using female thinking, which I've left on the table.

>>1250

That looks like how a lone male gang member would have to act in an otherwise all-female gang based off toxic femininity. Possibly this is what a real contextual inversion of feminism would look like.

>>1251

>toxic femininity

Isn't that actually male sexism enacted by women? What is toxic femininity and how does it differ from toxic masculinity (other than being done by women)?

>>1254

>What is toxic femininity and how does it differ from toxic masculinity

Toxic masculinity manifests things like whiteknighting, nazism, KKK, islamism and other movements in which men are treated as expendable assets to be wasted for a supposed higher ideological goal within a patriarchy. It's a degenerated form where these males are placed below the women, who are already subordinate in the patriarchy. This creates an underclass of men, often referred to as "betas" on imageboards. The conscription systems of modern countries is a good example of this in action.

Toxic femininity appears at the bottom of a matriarchy, where women rule. Men are subordinate here, but when this society degenerates, an underclass of women are placed below the men. Because matriarchy is uncommon today, we don't have many well known examples to use, but one such structure would be an older woman running a brothel and hiring women as whores, who are treated as expendable and below men. Another such structure would appear in families where older women make all the decisions and the wives of her sons are treated as slaves.

These subordinate women would turn to all kinds of toxic behaviours to defend what little freedom they can get within this power structure. Africa has more of this than the developed world.

Asathiel Ring

Thin golden ring with red stone. I made this as an expression of the energy shared by the red skinned alien deity Asathiel. Put it on your finger and it will increase your muscle growth by emitting a small amount of the red energy from this entity. Be aware that while it is very effective and can give significant results in a relatively short period with only moderate exercise, it will also lead to muscle soreness without exercising.

The ring has been placed on the round wooden table for anyone who wants one. This is not the real deal however, the energy itself has to be shared from person to person during a session. The effect of the ring is smaller. It's possible you would be able to produce an energy mass from just powering the ring more and using that for better effect, or summon the deity himself. It's up to your own creativity.

>>1531

>You either accept that real rulers are the incarnations of stronger spirits, with powers beyond ordinary humans, respect them for knowing more than you and follow their rule.

>Or you go along the path of ideology to criticise this view, explaining everything as mundane societal phenomena and seeking solutions in social reforms.

Just do both. If a person can't articulate their views of how things work, and why they work, people will either rely on faith to believe in them, or just not. Either that or be ruled by fear. Or just make it into a holy book, whatever works. Explaining everything in mundane terms is just removing the spiritual aspect of thinking and replacing it with hypotheticals and "things you must do if you don't want to be eaten by marauding bands of cannibals".

>>1727

I see its function as the same as what was called the "vampire's coffin" on meguca, the supposed second level of skills after the shield.

I meant for this thread

>>38

to correspond to those levels from back then but I see now that there is no organization in it.

Pic related, this is the same thing. Also note that Nod is the land Cain of the old testament was banished to. Cain has been called the first vampire, this theme was used in the Playstation game Legacy of Kain.

>>1763

>It's like making it less passive has caused the stubborness to lash out at everything instead.

Fair point. I thought it'd be useful in the case of trying to acquire something instead of passively brooding, forever.

Hi. I'm here cuz I wanted to understand better the Sunflower.

As I lurked around I found this thread and I was quite curious. I wanted to try this temple space, so i tried to reach the place, and is actually pretty welcoming. I still didn't wanted to touch or interact with anything so I waited at the entrance in a suspandend meditation state to see of someone would come around. And around the third hour someone come. A beautiful female looking entity. She definitely was humanoid, but not human, she was to beautiful with sharp face features silver eyes and very long floating blue hair. She had an invisible but perceptible silver energy around here like a breeze, the energy looked somewhat divine or more like "immortal"(maybe a vampire? But she looked more pure, or better "not chaotic" . But maybe I have a bad conception of a vampire). She was returning from somewhere leading a group of friends, she looked pretty happy . I only saw here tho, cuz as she noticed and smiled at me I regained consciousness. I now feel a thin telepathic connection to the place, like someone is looking for me, not in a bad way. But I kinda can't "connect" rn.

So I'm here to ask you guys if she or he was one of your members or one of your allied entity. If that I wanted to say sorry for the poor display and lack of self presentation haha. Thank you for your time

>>1811

Try a Gensokyo session using the instructions in this thread:

>>97

Don't be shy, just enter the temple and sit down. Call for Yuuka and request a visit.

>>1817

Is it really that easy?

>>1817

Ok I did as you said, but it was rather confusing. Even if now I feel very refreshed. I think I failed or something but Idk. I will post my experience in the weekend

>>1845

That only applies if it's a group session, as in it's scheduled. I don't think it'd matter if you'd just write it down and post it, up to you of course. Unless you want to wait until the weekend to post it for whatever other reason.

>>1833

Yes. Today was the second time I tried to visit the temple and for me it worked.

Did everything as it was explained before without any expectations.

I appeared at the gazebo and sat down by the wooden table.

Called Yuuka for help and she instantly appeared, explained my current situation and surprisingly got helpful advice and instructions to improve.

Filling that silver tray afterwards was very refreshing and all I can say is the constant bad feeling I am suffering

from is suppressed, at least for now.

It all kind of boils down to how receptive/open you are and how advanced your senses are, I think.

I'm still a beginner at all this stuff and my sensory inputs from astral projecting somewhere comes in bursts.

It's also extremely hard to tell made up imagination apart from real input. I try to maintain this calmness to suppress my thoughts, but

for example telepathy still feels so oddly made up, as if I was talking to myself, but in a very uncontrolled and very responsive manner.

It's hard to describe these things without coming of as insane.

What I just noticed out of nowhere was a kind of sweet smell I cannot describe and that the surrounding outside of the gazebo was a sunflower field.

>>1850

>a kind of sweet smell

This is common, it's because of the kind of energy used to create this place. If you felt it, it's usually a sign of purification.

>>1960

>I see and feel something there but haven't a decent connection yet

The sigil felt more like a command. Like, "get up." Wasn't a complete sigil, since it was only a command rather than a method. Solve it yourself, perhaps is the message.

>>1894

i dont know what a super touhou might be, so i'm gonna trust your call. But just to make things clear i didnt felt that kind of energy from Yukari, i felt it from the stairs. and i think that >>1953 is right about it. because after that experience i felt lighter and now my energy is more "calm and refined". It feels like i now need less energy to do things.

But to be fair that Yukari was "strange", i mean the whole vision of the sigil thing felt like she made me enter her mind or her soul to see it. Like sharing her memories with me

>>1960

i'm actually the anon from both the sigils hahah. ty once again. I actually think that is time for me to study about theme in general. >>1961 which one? the one from the gensokyo session or the other one?

>>1974

The energy I get from your post looks like a karma cleanse, breaking and letting new pathways of thinking form, ultimately letting new and cleaner energy through. Feeling like you can do more for less is what I would personally expect.

I meant this sigil >>1785.

>>1994

They look fine. Thanks for sharing.

Oi 0rbie, I got banned off Discord again. Don't know how else to contact you, tag is Nemicu#4796

>>1850

Judging by your comments, you are doing it right. You got the skills.

>>2034

>>2074

I made a ring with the essence of what was given to me. It may look like a golden ring with a white stone, I placed one in the study corner of the Temple.

>>2101

Looks like something I made a couple of days ago. It's a wheel based off of Formation and Reformation, or Formation, Annihilation, Reformation, and Annihilation again. Repeated. I placed that on the table.

>>2103

>wheel

It looks like something similar but placed differently in the body with a different aim. It somewhat looks like the tactic I've used successfully in Myth II for 2 team games, gaining and maintaining an upper hand by rushing while not counting losses. As long as you keep your losses comparatively lower to your opponents anything goes. It does not work in free for all games.

What I was given was a two way approach of one supporting and one performing part, joined in the middle, each then being able to do its own job with no concern for the other.

>>2108

It was the culmination of the spirit (main spirit) I just named Sigil for convenience. The thinking was the syncretic formation of all possible thoughts with the goal of forming solutions through breaking and recreating. It's entirely ineffective for anything other than sitting down and thinking for eternity, which naturally requires there to be an opponent in order to solve and break.

>>2109

Was also an attempt to form a connection between different methods of thinking. So it can't really exist independently from another system. It's effective for this, since it aims to cultivate through unique methods.

>>2166

Looks like an exo-mind.

The only real interaction I have with people IRL is with my parents, and from what I can see in them, they don't think in terms of governments or what laws have told them. They, in all likelihood, don't even know what many laws it begin with. Instead, they operate under moral beliefs. For my mother, she's incredibly selfish. I won't speak much about her since I don't consider her human. There's also peer pressure and expectation (the robotic exchange of pleasantries most people seem to like), but since I don't experience that often I can't say much about it.

I say this since I don't see the mind in the way the bracelet shows it to be. There's of course qi in each person, and this can be programmed through living a life in the modern world, but this is still a complete mind. It's not their own complete mind, they haven't created these concepts themselves in all likelihood, but it is complete. Rather than making a complete mind personally, I'd prefer to remove the qi from the person. This means removing the programming that has been taught and instilled in them throughout their life.

I don't know what notions you've held when making the bracelet, and I don't know where this "exo-mind" would fit in my own structure (I can't make an exo-mind, it's qi and that's destroyed instantly), but I placed a ring aimed to remove and have a person process these things themselves.

>>2167

>They, in all likelihood, don't even know what many laws it begin with

They, in all likelihood, don't even know that many laws to begin with. If any.

My dad is similar to me and holds moral beliefs strongly, but he's a typical person regardless.

>>2167

There are also other large external minds which serves the same function, such as christianity, the islamic califate, the communist party of such a country and other entities which replace the human mind. This is something which only happened in the last 100 or so years, before this humans all had their own mind. It seems from history that each time humanity degenerates into the state of building empires and mass movements, it is the result of not having individual subjective minds. Once those are again created and a culture for the creation of complete minds has been established, a civilization can flourish. This seems to have taken place sometime after the 900s in the west in this current cycle, with the roman empire being the last version of an external superstructure mind, and early christians through resisting it forming a culture of mind creation.

One might argue that the reason for the "invading hordes" coming to the west today is a result of the culture of individual thought having collapsed, and the emergence of an external mind has lowered our culture to the level of those countries we used to colonize. As there is no longer any barrier, those cultures are now washing over us, and we need to again establish a culture of independent mind creation to fight them off and take control. The imageboard hivement as such cannot achieve this as it is at the same level, all it can do is exist. One must become an individual to make a difference.

>ring

This worked like a single use spell for me, dissolving with a direction upon use. It seems to be working only on one specific narrow part of the left side of the brain. I'm aware this is me using my own energy to perform something based on what is mostly a manual or program. The target for this "spell/artifact" seems to be the most toxic of the male side brain thinking. I'm aware of thoughts of "divine extremism" being very strong in this area before, this type of energy targets what is left of it.

Qi is what the human body and world is made from, you cannot remove it. The mind made from qi is as strong as the concept it was based on. For this reason, with this method, something made from qi can be immortal.

>>2167

The ring spell manual lead up to the creation of a single red gong particle with god particle standard.

>>2170

I see your viewpoint as coming from an external to internal viewpoint. I don't know how to even begin to talk about this, so I won't. And that's literal.

>Qi is what the human body and world is made from

I think matter is different from qi. And I don't think this world is actually made of qi, I think it's a different matter. Qi exists within the region of 1-4D, arguably a bit lower than that. For a number of reasons, I don't think that's true.

>something made from qi can be immortal

I think it could be made immortal through other methods. The thing I see is like a collection of qi particles, making up a whole mind. It's entirely self-made rather than one made up by collecting and picking up human habits. It doesn't have to be connected to the "higher self".

>>2170

It's likely you're seeing the qi formation that people hold and considering that the mind. People have other attributes beside the superficial qi formation that actually dictates their personality and how they act, for the most part. I consider that the mind, and the superficial layer to be just memes picked up. If enough time goes by, and enough things go unquestioned, these things can insert themselves into the person and become the person.

>>2172

>I think it could be made immortal through other methods

The real question I have is why would you. Qi is just information, if you don't want to be controlled by external entities then you should understand yourself and understand the information that's given to you. This is difficult, but this is actual control rather than one built off of denying something from entering your mind.

>>2074

Brother thank you for your time. I will share my info with you if you can give me a way to contact you. Don't misunderstand I think that this group is trustworthy, but I prefer not to leave some kind of info public. Ganryu#6456

>>2166

If I used this, what would happen to my current mind/servitors as you call it?

>>2184

If you, somehow, already have a mind formed in this life, although very unlikely, it will be corrected into a form closer to your perfected mind. This is based on how much access you have to your true higher self and your understanding of it. It will just result in some flaws being rubbed off and your current mind being fine tuned. When you at a later time gain a better connection with your "higher self" (it's a vague term but I chose to use it here for lack of a better one), the human mind will be updated accordingly. This in the case of a mind already existing.

In the more likely case that your mind is that of a religion or governmental system (or cult), a personal mind will form, the external system will no longer be hardwired into your head, and your servitors, assuming they are your own, will be attached to your personal mind. There is a possibility that they weren't your own but were attached to the external mind, and were just given to you through it. In that case those will only be accessable depending on you maintaining the connection with this external mind. But there is nothing stopping you from converting them and making them your own if this was the case.

In short, using the bracelet to create your own mind/tulpa will be an improvement. It won't destroy anything that's a part of you for real, if something was removed in the process, it was harmful to you.

Be aware that using any such artifact is merely to accept a way of thinking as your own, following an elaborate pattern or manual which is created in the form of said artifact. Nothing will just "happen" on its own. It's all your own doing, you can stop the formation at any time if you want to and if you do not want to do something it won't happen.

We'll be holding some sporadic live sessions at around 6 - 8pm GMT, more likely to happen during weekends.

https://shamik.ooo/sunflower/

>>3211

>egregores created by idol worship or rituals

So I can use this to destroy government egregores?

>>3216

It targets egregores which have seperated themselves from their physical context of origin and now function as spiritual parasites. A regular government is just a group of people so the egregore is synced with that group and would dissolve or change if the group changed. If you had a religious or fanatical government which managed to create an egregore that remains fixed after the actual physical conditions change, then yes, you can destroy it with this weapon.

>>3230

FWO?

I left 2 rings in the study corner.

One silver with pink diamond, represents black magic or the human magic with the strongest transformation ability.

One silver with yellow stone (heavily ornamented), represents grey magic, the highest form of the "grey" alien's magic when applied conventionally.

>>3479

Is this noticeably different from bathing the food in cleansing white/golden energy and infusing it with high vital energy?

Will it work if I'm pissed or low energy, for example?

>>3496

Quite specifically this movement is for nullifying anything bad in the production process behind the food. In an ideal situation you'd grow your own vegetables, grains and hunt your own meat. Then you'd have control, but today there would be all kinds of bad energies tagging along when you buy food. What you describe doesn't sound specifically targeted at solving this.

>>3498

Got it. There's no need to target it specifically though. Simply clean it energetically in its entirety and your done. I've been doing it for years to great success.

I'll try this other method and see if there's any differences.

>>3496

>>3500

Since the Yuuka blessing seems only to remove the negative stuff, you can still charge your food with any kind pf property/spell/blessing you want. Or dedicate it to an entity of your choice (preferably yourself or your higher self though)

A module for connecting to the collective subconscious of humanity has been left in a small box in the study corner. May appear as a clear crystal. It will install over the area of "personal opinion" in your brain. If you are unwilling to give up "personal opinion" to gain access, you cannot use this version. However it's fully possible to remodel it to install over any area of your choice.

>>3919

I did the session. My astral senses suck even though I'm trying to improve.

There was a biped lion in the table area.

When I linked with the tray, I started filling it with energy, and eventually something dropped for me (I think, I have to explore it further). When I unlinked, however, I felt kind of a malaise.

>>3923

>There was a biped lion in the table area.

It's an open session so anyone, physical or non-physical, can participate if they agree with the Sunflower. The red crystal will sync you with the right moment in time so you'll be there with everyone else no matter when they did it in physical time.

>When I linked with the tray, I started filling it with energy, and eventually something dropped for me (I think, I have to explore it further). When I unlinked, however, I felt kind of a malaise.

Some of your energy was invested into making the artifact. It's also a powerful session because it links to a rare celestial event, so anyone could feel tired after, especially if you're not used to astral interactions.

It would be interesting to hear about what kind of artifact was made for you.

I received a silver pendant with etchings, it creates a pink energy when interacting with it. The function seems to be to incorporare hyper perception with primordial thinking, or north and south in the djinn universe's view.

>>3924

I actually did it twice (both times made me feel not so well afterwards and now I'm completely floored with a headache). The first time it was some sort of crystal orb with a different-colored core. Extremely heavy.

The second time it was a couple of small keys in a keychain.

I have yet to explore what the artifacts are because I'm so very tired. But I just ate and will take a nap soon.

>>3925

Did you do the new year's session for 2021?

This is meant as a follow up of that, adding something to get started on the 2nd half of the year. If you didn't do that one, maybe it filled in with the artifact you didn't get 6 months ago. Otherwise it may be a set of artifacts.

>>3926

I did. But I don't remember how it went.

>>3927

Then I assume you didn't get an artifact from the new year's session. Mine was very important, I've used it since then. I suggest figuring out what your orb + keys do, they're probably important for this year of your life.

>>3928

I experimented with them. The orb is an incredible tool for meditation. It’s like a three dimensional magician’s circle.

The keys seem to open portals to places. I have to experiment further with them because I don’t understand their purpose yet.

What happened to the megu-tent?

I sat down at the gazebo last night and started filling my tray when Yuuka appeared to my right and handed me what looked like a diamond ring. I can't recall what it was meant for though. It was a pretty large gem.

>>4191

I made that drawing!

>>4200

It's gomfy. I originally put that black blob in the chest outside the tent but somebody took it out and placed it inside lol

>>4245

I had put it in a transparent blue container with a small hole that would slowly leak it to the tree, dunno if it still exists, good times.

>>4267

The tree was some part of me. So I guess you cursed me lol

>>4273

Wew, I thought it was just something the goblins planted to absorb that loosh, hope you're alright, I apologise for that, I didn't know it was a part of someone.

>>4274

No problem at all, don't worry.

>>4278

For those who did manage to connect to the atlantean net (earth LAN) you can also look to the south east side, far off, for access to the Sunflower temple itself within this interface.

As the reply first said when you asked first time, use the temple and ask to talk to someone from Gensokyo, because there are all kinds of beings there, including kitsunes and yokais.

hello, am in need of astral projector

can someone ask yuuka (the green haired one, I think), if they want something? had dream where two yuukas came up to me and turned me into one of them. kind of become sleepy after being touched by them, and become baby and regrew again. originally appeared as cops trying to arrest me, but randomly turned into yuukas, not sure. also when seeing touhou things outside board, gives me odd feeling.

would ask myself, but don't have skills for projection. also not sure what it means, but have been having dreams from higher self lately, this happened in one of them, where the higher self told me it was a "game"

>>4325

Follow the instructions and read the shared experiences in the thread for visiting Gensokyo here if you want to visit:

>>97

>>4333

i'm asking here because i can't. am unable to normally astral project, as attempting separation from my body causes me to move, aswell as pain occasionally if i keep trying, feels like tar the whole way through. trying to dream into there wouldn't work, as they seemed to have been broken, recently only dreaming of the true present, dreaming of being in bed, trying to sleep. am also unable to emotionally detach myself, or reach a true state of calm mind. can calm mind, but raging undercurrents still exist and forcefully pause any interactions. telepathy works rarely, but cant hear other side, but can feel.

have been working on energy body basics, aswell as exercising to help build up energy body. just am currently unable to astral project. want to know what yuuka want is anything, or just stupid dream thing. came across many flowers (never see flowers) while letting higher self lead me while outside, and looked up yuuka and related. from what i learnt, true spirituality depends on mind. currently don't have good true mind, only surface. don't even know what yuuka would want. had serious aversion to youkai once finding out what they are, but am over it now.

90% of my online interactions about spirituality get ignored, know in a way my higher self is stopping me, and know why. still get much annoyance but acceptance of reason, paradox

>>4334

No one else can do this for you. It sounds like you just have to practice your own esoteric abilities to get better at it. Daily exercise is the way forward.

>>4334

>astral project, as attempting separation from my body

This is not a subject here, you got the wrong impression. When "astral" is used here, it's meant as in visualization. If you close your eyes and imagine being in the places and interacting with beings described here you're already "doing it".

>>4339

>>4335

yes, have in some way had realization, in one way already knew, but greatly reinforced. went to friend much more experienced than I to contact yuuka/other and told me what already knew, but friend wouldn't know. "move forward or back" (song synchronitization, related). feels like stupid message, already knew, but very important. had today yuuka follow me around today twice when outside. first time, ignored, told her to come back later if real and when able to tell if real, she said am able. couldn't ignore no matter how much I tried, always came back. eventually convinced her to go when near home. second time left house, yuuka came back, couldn't ignore, more receptive this time. long, simple, spiraling and repeating conversation. eventually not sure of yuuka or I, compared me to a weed, and she mentioned they're flowers too, aswell as being unbloomed or something. feels like something I would both say and not. odd. during meditation inbetween above, thought about gazebo for some seconds, yuuka appeared almost instantly and patted me, had to forcefully break vision. still not sure if real, tulpa, genuine, or trick. probably combination of all four. reading others' experiences with gazebo city place, am expecting rug to be pulled out under me, not sure what she wants.

will continue in daily practices, decided to get off internet while doing so, only minimally. will still check sunflower occasionally to look at stuff. maybe want to ask for advice on visualization and things. read thread(s) but only seems like experiences, and don't understand artifacts

>>4365

I sense water energy. Interacting with it felt like water energy flow as well.

My intuition made me remember Iemanjá. It's a goddess from African and Brazilian religions.

She is a goddess of water and fertility and has the archetype of the divine mother.

Remembering her could be my bias from looking into her recently and being part of one of the few magic systems I know, but she fits the description of being from a very specific culture and very specific magic system.

That magic system contains mostly music, willing possession, and food offerings,

>>4366

>made me remember

It's possible this is the important part. Another person recalled something specific from childhood. It may show you something relating to yourself by connecting you with a different time in your life?

>>4367

Could be it.

What's the origin of that cristal?

>>4368

Interacting with a green dragon.