/fringe/ - Fringe

>>110395

Well yeah, one of the common one's

>interview with a vampire

turning into

>interview with THE vampire

I remember it clearly because the translated title in my country indeed is "interview with a vampire" and I was just learning english when I first watched it, so I used to always check the local title vs the english to see how it was translated and if it was changed.

Another thing which seems pretty major is how it's now called "stronglift" and "powerlift", it's the same direct meaning in my country for this form of competition. But it used to be just "weight lifting" and I remember calling it "stronglifting" as a joke because it's a bit retarded. You don't lift strength, you lift weights, right. Just as saying

>I didn't do nothing"

or

>some kind of malfunction is broken

as it negates the meaning. Then I heard someone say "stronglift/powerlift" on tv and realised this is what people call it now…

Maybe the translation doesn't do this justice, but that's the general idea of how it played out.

>>110448

This thread was a deliberate alteration. Obfuscation, deliberation delineation.

Transfiguration and negative dissemination with exposition.

Remember.

Contextual equivalents. Frame, time frame.

But not really. That was all just nonsense and nothing to think too deeply about or dwell on in the dream state.

>>110395

>I'm a faggot.

>not really, I just needed an excuse to make a post

>>110471

It's ok. Lots of people struggle with their sexuality anon. Just let go and let the AIDS take you.

I like that lateralus album

I thought this would be a one off operation, but it seems to be continuing to reverberate. Definitely one of the best sigil workings I've ever done.

>>110395

I've experienced some mandella effect but it turned out to be that there actually are printings of Snow White where the witch says, "Mirror Mirror on the wall" and not "Magic Mirror on the wall".

Had some near death experiences as a kid and a 20-something, a handful in total.

Then one day I was pondering over the circumstances of my birth, its lunar and astrological charts and all sorts of medical shenanigans that happened just after birth.

Anyhow, thanks to some help from some Lainists, of all people, I found the info on creating mind altering gear. Using the EM wave setup with some "Love" Magic I was able to sense some of my other selves in different time-lines.

The effect felt like deja-vu at first. A few of the things in my mind were parts of actual past memories, but there were many other "future-memories" or "present-times" (and now I get the joke in the OP of SEL).

I felt the other me's in their other times and they were feeling me. I could feel which decisions the others were making and chose to make a different one – Sometimes felt pulled towards a decision, to say a phrase, or some action, and I'd do something else then say, "See, the other me did X, but I did Y" – and sometimes even feel the other me saying the converse, "See, the other me did Y, but I did X".

I'm sure the silly fucks at CIA who study dissociative states would love to hear all about it, but they're too busy fucking around with sex fantasies and psychotic breaks to try and learn any of the secret universal truths surrounding Time Travel.

Nah, couldn't possibly be useful to send data through time… what fools.

Ya it happened to me as a child a lot, tbh I died and even murdered my little brother by accident, hard to believe. Since my early childhood, less significant things have happened until recently, where a spell caused the effect that indirectly lead to my dog losing one of his ears and almost dying. CERN coukd definetly have a hand in the mandala effect, especially for mundanes who experience it but I've realized that the mandala effect could be the butterfly effect caused by magic. Big part of the reason why I stopped doing spells for dumb reasons. Depending on your method and thought forms, magic can effect the past. Say I want to "find" a pack of cigs that I never even bought, I wanted to find them beneath my couch. I found them, a brand I don't buy, one of my brothers put them there, he was smoking which no one would really think he'd do. So I made him smoke indirectly by placing those cigs there with a bad magic method. For him to have started smoking things would have to lead up to that from the past. My dog lost his ear from getting outside and being attacked by a nigdog. He didn't really get out, I was just misplaced in a bad timeline. From a curse. I suspect that just some random magic some random person did somewhere sometime would cause the mandala effect. Makes a lot of sense to me tbh

>>120610

>Anyhow, thanks to some help from some Lainists, of all people, I found the info on creating mind altering gear.

Sharesies

>>110395

>I'm curious if anyone perusing /fringe/ has any actual experience with the Mandela effect

Our universe is fractalised and alternte timelines are on different fractals. I remember feeling a fractal create when I was locking in a romantic relationship with my current partner, we originally weren't supposed to be in this life but using enough willpower caused a new fractal to develop.

I was waiting for the right thread to come around for me to post this.

TL;DR WARNING

this slowly starts slightly unrelated but gets more and more related. It's very complicated.

CERN created the internet.

or at least that's what the facts are in this timeline.

in my timeline CERN never created the internet.

in my timeline the internet was created in the earlier days of the military to create a new secret more secure form of communication, and the project was used by the earlier hackers who basically found and then began to use the internet for their own needs, and the military did nothing to stop it, but rather sat back and watched. they always wanted others to use it, because look at what it became today. today the internet is the largest worldwide surveilance system where people unknowingly or knowingly give their information to the entire world. However, it is beginning to appear more as though CERN may have hijacked the timeline for their own purposes and made themselves the original creators of the internet. in theory, how much money or power would one person hold if they were to go back in time and become the original creator of google, and never sell it?- let alone the entire internet?

here are some links, some are more conflicting than others- perhaps due to timeline residue. not everything gets changed or erased, similarly to how so many people remember things differently.

http s://home.cern/topics/birth-web

https://archive.is/Z1je2

htt p://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/09/history-internet/

https://archive.is/Mt8QO

htt p://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407539,00.asp

https://archive.is/ESMHB

htt p://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=81408

https://archive.is/inrkk

htt p://www.whoishostingthis.com/blog/2014/11/11/arpanet/

https://archive.is/YZ4Y8

http s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web

https://archive.is/5SDk5

http s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

https://archive.is/Env8S

htt p://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question50007.html

https://archive.is/vV2tl

htt p://techland.time.com/2012/07/25/how-government-did-and-didnt-invent-the-internet/

https://archive.is/y31vq

htt p://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~almeroth/classes/F04.176A/homework1_good_papers/Alaa-Gharbawi.html

https://archive.is/qp0lw

>"life Is like a box of chocolates- you never know what you're gonna get"

is now

>"life WAS like a box of chocolates- you never know what you ARE going to get"

sherbert icecream is now sherbet

FAO Schwartz is now FAO Schwarz

in the movie "The Wizard of OZ" the scarecrow (who wants to have a brain) NOW HOLDS A GUN.

he never had a gun before.

in the scene from the first pirates of the carribean Jack Sparrow is trying to convince Barbosa to work with him in the first movie and starts bribing him with the offer of a hat, "a really big one", and then he adds "with a feather in it" this really hit me hard, I definitely remember this one as well, I haven't re-watched the movie yet but everyone says that that scene doesn't exist anymore.

many people have begun to experience the resurfacing of very strange old memories of drowning when they were little or memories of being swimming deep underwater somewhere or in a pool when they were little but still being able to be breathing somehow.

>"Similar thing happened with the game Spiderman: Web of shadows with the final QTE sequence, where when you fail, Spiderman says, in a chipper tone "Well, that's a nice trick." We laughed our asses off as every time you fail the QTE, it goes back to Spiderman saying "Well, that's a nice trick."

>"We heard it every single time my cousin failed, so it was at least 5 times. Fast forward and he gets to the ending again, ready for us to laug hagain, but now Spiderman says a downcast "Nice trick… didn't stop it." now no matter what, the ending is "Nice trick… didn't stop it." but we KNOW he said "Well, that's a nice trick."

>"Anyone remember things differently than when they were kids? I only briefly remember one part from A Goofy Movie, that doesn't exist anymore. It was during the roadtrip montage, and Max and Goofy were at a baseball game, they got a player to sign it, and handed it to them."

>"I distinctly remember a static shot of the baseball in question with about two sentences to a paragraph of cursive writing. I remember this specifically because I couldn't read in cursive at the time, and wanted to know what it said. I tried rewatching my original VHS copy and the shot was missing, as well as a pirated version I got online and my nephew's DVD version."

JCpenny is now JCpenney

Fabreeze is now Febreze

Oscar Meyer is now Oscar Mayer

mamas and papas california dreamin "I began to pray" is now "I pretended to pray"

woman named "sally fields" "you like me, you really like me"

is now called "sally field" and now says "you like me, right now you like me"

"we are the champions….. OF THE WORRRRRLLLLD!!!" cuts off now and doesn't say "of the world" anymore.

the word "dilemna" is now "dilemma"

the board game monopoly "ventura avenue" is now "ventnor avenue"

look at the world map. it has changed.

>south america

>australia

>greenland and iceland

>japan

>korea

>new zealand

all locations have changed or shifted in size or location or shape.

http://mandelaeffect.com/chartreuse-red-or-green/

many people remember chartreuse being a more red type of color, not green or yellow.

There's a belief among Mormons and Muslims that both Muhammad passed the Qur'an down orally and why Muslims were supposed to be able to orally recite the Qur'an.

and as for mormons It boils down to anything not written in mental is subject to change after the fact. All of it. Words, pictures, ideas, thoughts. Even the internet. The only thing you can truly trust is your own memory.

do your own research. don't allow yourself to be misguided or disinformed. the shills are among us.

"totally real people" will take the time and effort to post attempts at highly convincing arguments like:

>In a world with even minutely different geography second order effects wouldn't be how many people are in JFKs car but whether the country exists in this form at all. Move North America one mile West and you've changed every person that will ever be born there. Do you realize how astoundingly unlikely it is that your sperm in particular was successful?

>you just have a bad memory

>memory is imperfect, u r shit, theres no alternate universes

>the number of people in JFK assassination car went back to 4! whoops now it's back to 6! haha! am I doing it rite guis?

>wow it sure is summer in here!

>it's just the weekend, and everyone in this entire thread, no, everyone that believes in the mandela effect is from saturday and are all retarded

>nice meme!

>post some redpills

"wow that's a religion wow that's cats cradle"

>you are mentally ill

>I bet you're a millennial. They don't seem to remember anything.

>I bet your young, that's why you can't remember anything and are stupid and believe in the mandela effect

>I bet your old, that's why you can't remember anything and are stupid and believe in the mandela effect

>The only people I know who care about this shit are all complete fucking idiot retards. For goodness sakes it really is not worth the time and effort to think about this so much. Why are you so scared if the past is changing or not? You should be devoting your thought to more important matters.

>berenstain is the only thing that they changed- the rest of that stuff is just your mind playing tricks on you, and it wasn't a parallel dimension- it was just the jews

(notice how they try to admit a little in desperation to placate "the unforgotten" / mandela effect believers)

>HAHA I just realized where your major malfunction is. All of your primary knowledge of media prior to 2000 comes from parodies. 90% of your list are paraphrased parodies of the original material, found in cartoons and comedy movies. The rest are you just being an illiterate twat. but don't listen to me, I must a shill.. OoooooOOooh dumbass.

>wow everyone who believes in the mandela effect is a stubborn conspiracy theorist who can't handle anyone being right! I'm going to tell everyone that mandela people think: "anyone who disagrees with me is a shill" but I'm going to kee shilling by simultaneously posting that argument and also saying the mandela effect is fake and wrong and a lie in every thread!

>Its not a conspiracy its just when some idiot remembers something poorly and puts his recollection on a webpage or in an email and spreads the bad info to others who automatically trust it.

>In the old days information was handed down by telling stories so by the time it had been passed around a dozen times, it was completely different.

>it's called "remembering something incorrectly and its for normalfags or /fringe/-tier autists.

>You remember things wrong, but in your case your ego doesn't let you admit you may possibly have remembered something incorrectly, Now fuck off

>thousands of people are all remembering things wrong in all the same ways because they are idiots, and someone told them to think that, and it's important for me to run around posting that everyone is wrong in every mandela thread because if I dont everyone will think they are right- when they are actually totally wrong, and the list you posted is a joke, and three quarters are obvious and the last quarter I just don't care about!

>You're just an eyesore!

>You will be ignored

>You will be forgotten

>all of these are bs because the brain remembers bernstein better but it's just the brain correcting the thought to make it easier for itself.

when "totally real people" or "TRP's" surface in such numbers… it can only mean we are doing or thinking of something they do not want us to

The only evidence that any of this has, is what currently exists. That which is the conflict that people have with far more people's memories than those who agree with it. I see no reason to disbelieve in the effect and instead cling to some bizarre theory of highly specific mass memory error. There is currently no worthy acceptable explaination for how so many people from so many different places all over the world could possibly remember (exactly) all the same commonly recognizable and well known events, names, locations of continents and other places, and general miscellaneous things all WRONG, in EXACTLY the same ways.

You can not trick us, You can not fool us. You will not make us forget. stop lying to yourself. deny yourself the truth no longer. We are the unforgotten.

>My main question is that some of these things seem frivolous, so why would anyone intentionally change them?

a sound possible speculation is that significant (or insignificant) events are changed and through the butterfly effect, these create an unstoppable chain of reactions which result in a lot of small changes like the title of your favorite cartoon manifesting into reality as altered. some people'es memories are altered, and others are spared.

It's just nice to see other people freak out when they absolutely know without a doubt that things they have always known in their everyday life, things that they undoubtably and unshakably remember clearly and sharply, are now obviously and unmistakably altered and noticabley and tangibley different. I and many others have seen Bragg's apple cider vinegar (brand name) suddenly appear forever changed as "bragg" in their pantry. we can all pick up that bottle that we bought as "Bragg's" and touch it, and feel it, and know that it is different than the bottle we got from the store "way back".

>always buy bragg's apple cider vinegar from wholefoods

>one day go on the internet

>everyone flipping out saying it changed to JUST "bragg"

>run to my pantry and look

>all the bottles say "bragg" now

>hue hue?

>call "bragg" company

>"yea we have had loads of people calling us about this, no no we have always been bragg"

>even watched a video on youtube of the lady who owns "bragg" calling it "bragg's"

if you are one of the people who have noticed the difference I reccomend you call the "bragg" company if you are curious enough and ask them if they remember and how many others have called. I encourage you to be polite and not keep them too long however.

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Just in case anyone is getting lost or confused, these are all related. I did TL;DR WARNING so get some snacks and enjoy the read

thread archive for those who care.

https://archive.is/Izqyp

>>120667

You're not the guy who spams the shitty religion infograph, are you?

>>120671

KEK, why would you think that? Anyway, do ye like my material on the M E do you? do you?

>>120650

The internet was not "invented" by CERN. It was indeed developed by "hackers" (aka university researchers) partially with military money.

A dude from CERN developed what we know as "the web" (html documents).

Sorry to piss on your mandela parade, but you're just misinformed about this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

>>120691

shown here

>>120659

the cornucopia (wicker basket cone) top left

>>120694

shills always try to jump and grasp at straws on this little piece and then claim the whole thing isn't true anymore. it's excellent shill bait.

did this thread get slid?

>>120691

It's a shame this anon never came back and noticed the piece of the logo that was missing. no cornucopia in fruit of the loom logo!

This thread is just dead, what the fuck.

>>120745

>>120802

The thread did get slid, but we will not let it die. As always OP is a total fag and just made the thread out of some BS anyways. They even go on to just tell everyone to screw off. Fuck that and fuck OP for wanting to slide their own thread.

>>120610

The near death experience is interesting, I wonder how many others who experience the Mandella effect also had near death experiences. I've had a few myself and best I can describe is I've "experienced" the other outcomes of the event. Like say it was a high fall, well in my timeline I didn't fall. But later I experienced the fall where I died, and where I got injured X way, Y way and ect. But all from my own timeline, though I do wonder if one could get stuck in an alternate or "fractal" universe.

>>120853

almost everyone who experienced the mandela effect had an NDE, or multiple NDE's. lot's of the /gatebreakers/ too. lots of us all remember drowning but somehow being fine later with no memory of how they got out.

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>>120853

>The thread did get slid, but we will not let it die. As always OP is a total fag and just made the thread out of some BS anyways.

i beg your pardon but this thread was not made out of b.s.

It's purpose was specific to the sigil's that I posted.

I make no apology for using a meme as an excuse to further my personal goals.

Fuck anyone unable to take a joke. And fuck those further to fail to see progress in advancement.

I do my work as I see fit and assume that those who respond to it do so from a sense of affinity of purpose.

Also Fuck you "Carissa"

>>120853

I'm curious what made you think the OP was sliding their own thread?

>>121079

I watched it but I don't remember that scene.

>>121084

Episode 2, I didn't recognize it until I saw it again either.

>>121105

what does it mean :)

If i understood the concept of timelines correct youll have to make changes in your life / behaviour which are bigger than usual stuff

then youll jump / switch between different timelines but i didnt managed to do it according to my will

it more feels like i jumped to timelines where i didnt want to jump but i did because of my belief of unworthyness and negativtiy

>>121079

DUDE

anyone else notice jumping around constantly and details being different?

>>121668

>inb4 schizo hue hue

>inb4 skeptic cancer

>>110395

Yes I jumped timelines. I cannot tell you how, why, or what happened except that the moon didn't exist and now it does. If you know the secret about the earth/moon relationship then you will understand.

>>121812

>Corporations run the planet, governments are mostly ceremonial.

You should read Snow Crash. It's a short novel that's a silly portrayal of the near future. It was written in late 80s but it's good.

>>121817

in my reality everyone had two dicks

i miss my second dick..

>>121819

I'm calling bullshit. I have two dicks and have changed realities multiple times without losing either or both of my dicks.

I just want to give thanks for the success of this thread and the sigils I posted in it.

Granted I was progressively getting drunker from the time I started this thread, but at no time was it intended to be a mockery.

Jumping timelines just gave me an excuse to pour out the emotion needed in both the music videos I posted and especially in the actual sigils I drew as I went.

I didn't make the thread as a larp or as a disingenuous jab at anyone. I've experienced things that will never translate into the normiesphere and don't even bother trying anymore.

Anyone in a similar position knows what it's like to draw the ire of the npc's, to the point that people around you are like "What the fuck man!?" Crazy shit.

So, don't take offense if you misread the intentions of this thread. I take magic serious, believe that reality is far more comprehensive than our higher selves is going to let us see, and only wish good on all people, even if that good is a shitstorm.

Thanks, and good luck.

Also fuck off if you can't take a joke.

I remember toy story 2 being slightly different with Woody's nightmare involving Buzz Lightyer flying.

>>120661

chick-a-fil

Damn anon the timeline is really messing you up.

I miss our talks.

Also, some of these sigils could use a recharging.

Timelines have shifted, but that doesn't mean we are out of the woods, so to speak.

>>128634

for full affect/effect open image in private window, then meditate or contemplate what the image conveys or means to you personally

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_IX_Hispana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Battalion,_9th_Marines

dark clouds pull

stink rises

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Activation

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>>110395

>Timelines

Yes, and it's a long, /x/tier story. Might as well spill my guts since it's an anonymous board & I'm feeling morose today already.

I actually created my own system years ago based around time manipulation that I called "Chronomancy", and after a LOT of meditation, invocation & general mucking about I figured out how to switch timelines (also how to speed up & slow down time itself, make a day last a week for example. A few other things too). I got VERY good at it. Loosely based on a combination of inspirations, mainly Sacred Math, Austin Osman Spare, Tibetan Dream Yoga, Pranayama, Lovecraft & Carlos Castaneda. Chaos Magic Theory too obviously. It's hard for me to explain, for reasons that'll be obvious.

So one day, circa 2009, I finally decided that I wanted to try something different - a timeline where I've got plenty of money, a wife, just good old Mundane worldly success. I'd moved through plenty of others at this point, all fairly similar, just a few details different (it was almost a more extreme version of belief shifting for me) - but I didn't understand the ramifications of this jump & I got stuck. Basically, it was a timeline where I wasn't an Adept any more (obviously) - the others had all been into timelines where I was just a different kind of Adept (sadistic LHPer, selfless RHP New Age Christian, you get the picture), since I was after knowledge - at least someone with enough "power" that with minimal effort I could get up to speed & jump back agon. I wanted to explore being "normal", and I got my wish! Siddhis man, there's a reason the old Masters tell you to beware of them. I'd expected that I'd be at least able jump again, but it was just all gone.

So while I still have the raw knowledge I haven't spent decades applying it & evolving into it here, and I can't really make it work. I have no Chi & my etheric body is puny (my material one was fortunately in decent /fit/ shape, but more a power lifter build than yogi - my joints ache, sigh).

Worse this timeline does indeed seem to itself have been hijacked (yeah, the whole Berenstain bears thing in 2012), and I swear it's more "solid" than my home timeline. Maybe I'm just imagining it but trying to actually progress again is incredibly difficult for me. Even worse than that, I'm actually aging (I'd stopped at about 18 to 20 for nearly 10 years when I jumped to this stream), I get sick again and I can't rapidly heal any more (healing siddhis, loosely time manipulation based though). I can't even Lucid dream anymore ffs - all the muscle memory and neural/psychospiritual pathways are just not there. I don't even know any kung fu (I was great with Tai Chi, a wonderful martial art for magicians, as well as Judo)!

It's really confusing, I keep trying to do simple things that I have tons of memory of (say, juggling or guitar playing or something) and I just fail at it. Meanwhile, I have a whole bunch of skills in software development & project management - it kind of just "appears", but I'm not entirely sure what I know, since I don't recall learning it.

On the bright side, I have a great job and a loving wife here, so that's…nice I guess. Plus I'm pretty sure imageboards never developed in my home timeline (I was still hanging out on IRC & I'd never heard of them, and I switched back in 2009 - I'm damn sure I'd have heard of /b/ if it had existed). I'd kinda like to be able to jump again though, as this world is going south fast. I need to find the time to write my system out, try to spend some quality time recalling it all, developing a training program etc - but it's tough. I didn't have to work before (family property that I don't have in this timeline), & I have no idea how any normie peasant can be a magician with all this day to day crap tiring them out.

Anyway, that's my sad tale about alternate timelines. Take it, leave it, call it a larp. I can't help you that much in a practical sense, beyond suggesting you learn to "breathe" the timestream as you go to sleep, maintain your awareness through the hypnogogic state as you enter & you'll discover there's a kind of "intersection" between all your possible selves. You can then more or less "wake up" (much as you would in a lucid dream), but inside the body of another "self". There's more to it than that & you can develop rituals to help the process, attunements to Saturn especially, and a lot of preliminary exercises (getting familiar with the timestream - literally just practice breathing while looking at a watch hand and try to alter how fast or slow it seems until you enter a "gnostic" state/experience Samadhi with Time itself). Like I say, I'm still trying to dredge it all back so I can apply it and escape, but those were the most important techniques IIRC.

>>133841

Crack head bullshit. Probably.

I'll say only probably because something bumping around in my bedroom woke me up last night. As Shatner once eloquently stated "Khan!", just add the lepre'.

Then I had one of the craziest dreams, where after a long slog through a lot of machinery and things, I had a meet up with an alternative self from a different timeline. This was a very different self, accompanied by his older wife. More assertive, more fixed.

The experience was fascinating for both of us. He seemed curiously amuded by me, while I generally disliked who he was, more as the meeting went on. He made solid choices and stood by them, where I simply went with the flow (and got flushed).

It was trippy. And I don't do drugs. I think mostly the dislike was jealousy on my part. But again, the whole thing was trippy, memorable. An arranged meeting.

Crazy shit.

May have all just been my mind. Except what woke me up and the curtains moving where the window was closed. No bullshit. I'm not an /x/ poster and don't give a shit about larping.

>>133850

>amuded

When your subconscious invents new words

>>110395

[self help]

>>133850

My theory is that all of the various "selves" in each timeline are still connected via the "higher self" or whatever you want to call it. It's just not normally noticeable, and you can't normally change places. They'd be a lot closer together in the dream state though - so that's why the technique relies on having mastered lucid dreaming first.

Bear in mind, time is a really difficult topic to discuss or think about - it's not so much that time moves (in fact, from one point of view everything is happening at the same time), as that your perception continually "falls" through it or alters it's relation to it. I remember Peter Carrol wrote a book about it (barely readable either) - basically about how sorcery can be considered the art of creating "patterns" or "events" in time, how intentions create synchronicity, how that ties into free will, and so on. I forget the name. It's also strangely tied into space, as in moving around in space actually can also move you across "timelines" - really subtle effect though & hard to describe what I mean by it. Gah.

"Crackhead" shit or not though, it's an interesting topic & one I don't see many magicians focused on. Given that it's another path to immortality (real immortality too, not vampire parasitism or something), not to mention a ton of other nifty abilities & insights you'd think there'd be a lot more written on the whole topic.

>>133863

>My theory is that all of the various "selves" in each timeline are still connected via the "higher self" or whatever you want to call it. It's just not normally noticeable, and you can't normally change places. They'd be a lot closer together in the dream state though - so that's why the technique relies on having mastered lucid dreaming first.

Seems legit. Accurate.

On further brief reflection of the dream of meeting another "self", the idea I get conveyed is "No". That my conscious self will never navigate timelines the way I would like. That a completely different self is the one who made the choices for a completely different timeline.

And again, it may have all just been theater. Entities dress up wearing memories like costumes in dreams. Always towards passing on some useful lesson or knowledge, even when I completely miss the point.

From lucid dreaming experience, I will say that these are distinctive entities entitled to a degree of respect.

Posting the "machine" video seemed like a premonitory thing. Slogging through a machine land to reach a place where access could be found for another "self". It was only after the slog, being led, that a place was finally arrived at where the "other self" was just on the other side, and invited in.

The "Powwow Blues" was random google search. The "Pow wow" I was searching for was about German Dutch Pow Wow magic, not Native American Powwow's. But I thought the song was cool, and definitely fringe.

>>133874

Also, meeting my "other self" was like meeting yourself when your other self is Dom Corleone.

I felt like a complete fuck up, even though being true to who I am. The shit I tolerated this other self dealt with without remorse. Being looked at with amusement, sympathy, and pity, was harsh.

Yet, I would rather die alone in a desert, than live a minute being full of shit.

[Which is probably where the pity came from.]

Sorry for the fucking blogposting.

>>133841

My guess is that software directly interacts with etheric mass like continuous mindrape going on 24/7 for most anyone living here? Consider that digital relates to the hands and that you're very much complicit in your work position - then consider the caste that plays the role of "hands of God" - the baalim.

Have you considered Viynana Bhairava Tantra (IN SANSKRIT) and "magic" in the form of mathematics/geometry practice with good intention? Or "Torah and Mitzvot" + alepbeis? Or Enochian, "Chenuch" is literally the guy sitting down writing for the tetragrammation.

I got suckered back into some social circles when I went full Saturn here and it seems like someone broke both my wrists and both my ankles as well, or I'm starting to succeed mastering bone structure.

Pretty disappointed in people still. Shit memory functionality and barely even the capacity to remember dreams. I don't even truly care about people I know or meet fucking off into different timelines or universes or whatever the fuck else.

IMO higher self is how you get assraped, there are souls, humans are compounds of souls with a specific outline, spirit is whatever is a 100% uncatchable inside a soul, call it absolute or perfect or abstract depending on your attitude.

>>133872

Interesting insight - maybe the other version is "more advanced" as it were, and is exploring the technique himself. Well, when you think about it, ultimately it doesn't matter which "self" gets to be enlightened - ultimately that benefits you in this life as well. Good point that it can be another entity wearing a mask too though.

>>133877

>In Sanskrit etc

Not a bad idea anon. Maybe approach it from more of a "programming" perspective you mean? And yeah, it does seem like there's a relationship there between programming & magic, in caste terms. Hmmm, a bit to meditate on there.

>>133869

Well, he IS the danger.

>>133888

Or c: Little people/lepre [Shatner voice] "Khan!"'s engineered the whole thing and did it in dream time for me to resolve issues.

Super Power'd Majic Sigil

of the Vid'ya type

use irresponsibly

best o' luck

>>110395

This thread has reached a level of mojo I didn't think possible.

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>>133841

There is a sort of spiritual timeline that graphs the development of the changes of the physical timeline.

It's like when a timeline ends, or even when an event in a timeline happens, people/entities decide that there's probably a better way, and they go back to a previous point to split the timeline and try again. However these splits are graphed, and you can't do over a previous timeline.

But even that's a oversimplification. It's more like, your higher self (not god, not the eternal spirit, but some intermediate version of yourself. 5D or 6D, when you are a 4D (or 3D…) version of yourself in this realm), a more advanced version of you that exists outside of physical time, sees the end of the timeline that you are traversing on, and creates synchronistic events to help you shift to a seemingly better timeline.

You can't do over a previous timeline if there is no higher energy to help you shift to it.

Now overall in the big picture, the 'best' timeline or the most meaningful or potentially practical timeline (words which have nuanced differences in meaning for all the different entities, but the entities that are PRESENT in a particular timeline obviously all agreed to fuck around together, or at least their 5D versions decided, and our 4D selves are just here for the ride, with only our actions to be tested and influenced by our own selves that exist outside of physical time…

I think it's PRETTY CLEAR that this universe is where the most entities are the most present (still much less than before; a lot of souls switched timeline in 2012, and many of them just died or got fucked elsewhere, so they are slowly and grudgingly coming back to this timeline)

Yea this really is the best timeline. I have a lot of theories about all the differences in this timeline, and all the major shifts, but pretty much every major event in history was not in the original timeline. We are so advanced in this timeline, there have been so many changes.

It's like playing new game+++, or going to level 1 after getting prestige or all that shit.

This timeline has the most experienced and stable entities working to create a decent environment that apparently is conducive to the most development possible, compared to all the other timelines.

If there's a better timeline, we will soon invent it and many of us will shift to it, without any conscious perception.

Now personally I don't see the benefit in trying to fuck around with this shit when I am still an amateur in the 4D/5D experiences. I'll let my 5D/6D self deal with that shit, all I can do is speculate from my limited perspective here in the physical… I mean I already know what to do, but how and why we got here doesn't really matter when you can see everything in the HERE AND NOW and know very well in what direction things are going.

This is why I like saying that History is my weakest subject. I say it jokingly, but shit like berensteins and mandela and whatever, absolute complete waste of time to try and figure out. Yeah maybe shti happened, now move on.

That being said, although I used to be obsessed with changing the past, within the past few years I've realized that everything that happens is meant to happen or it simply wouldn't have happened in the first place (thanks to the Ain Sof…). I do not believe that you can change the past because obviously what that really means is consciously switching to a timeline from a higher dimension to manifest as awareness (and then somehow connect with all the memories that aren't yours?). You might as well reinvent the whole universe if you could just fucking manifest your own awareness in other vessels, across timelines no less…

What I think is happening, is either two things which is kind of the same thing. Either you were able to channel visions from your 6D self and witnessed the mechanisms of how the higher dimension makes it's decisions in finding the best timeline, and the visions felt like experiences you actually had, OR you're a really high dimensional being that is only pretending to be 3D (aren't we all? I don't want to stop pretending and accidentally delete myself or something, so I'm fine right here) and from the higher dimension you literally traversing back down and up through dimensions… Maybe you allowed yourself to go to timelines that are basically empty (only you who are present, and everyone else just empty vessels, basically dream characters of your dream) or something of that sort, but the reason it isn't working anymore is because it was never supposed to work.

Going to a timeline that has already been determined to be a meaningless existence, is not conducive to personal and spiritual self growth… So it's inherently meaningless, and your higherself will go through all hell just to make sure you are having meaningful experiences, spiritual growth, etc. Your growth is contingent on their existence, after all

>>133888

CHECKING THESE TRIPS THOUGH Yes this permission granting at the highest level is certainly thanks to the Ain Sof, which I would NOT call my higher self. That is THE HIGHEST SELF OF ALL EXISTENCE. The darkness behind the light… Or rather, the nothingness behind the light that is behind the darkness…10D or 11D or something

>>133841

The other thing that may have happened is that you have incredibly potent powers but since you didn't make use of them nicely the universe god mad and locked those powers up

GG NO RE

>>133877

>IMO higher self is how you get assraped

Yeah limiting yourself to a single notion of a higher self does tend to lead to assrape…

The higher self is supposed to be the ideal version of you. and you are supposed to be the highest manifestation of your ideal.

Putting a particular to the abstract of ideal is the limitation, and shows an arrogance of the imperfect physical being in concluding that they truly understand any particular ideal…

Limiting yourself to an ambiguous symbol is a decent middle ground, or even a phrase. I like 'cultivation of consciousness' but I'll be damned if I even know what the hell that is supposed to mean…

Practice Tantra with your wife and you will not have energy shortages. Casual newspaper reading (which, absurdly, is a technique for ultra-grounding) for mental stability and social acceptability.

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Read all of them in Bogart's voice.

thanks

>>110395

context

spinal bifurcation and the soul