/fringe/ - Fringe

>>120853

I'm curious what made you think the OP was sliding their own thread?

>>121079

I watched it but I don't remember that scene.

>>121084

Episode 2, I didn't recognize it until I saw it again either.

>>121105

what does it mean :)

If i understood the concept of timelines correct youll have to make changes in your life / behaviour which are bigger than usual stuff

then youll jump / switch between different timelines but i didnt managed to do it according to my will

it more feels like i jumped to timelines where i didnt want to jump but i did because of my belief of unworthyness and negativtiy

>>121079

DUDE

anyone else notice jumping around constantly and details being different?

>>121668

>inb4 schizo hue hue

>inb4 skeptic cancer

>>110395

Yes I jumped timelines. I cannot tell you how, why, or what happened except that the moon didn't exist and now it does. If you know the secret about the earth/moon relationship then you will understand.

>>121812

>Corporations run the planet, governments are mostly ceremonial.

You should read Snow Crash. It's a short novel that's a silly portrayal of the near future. It was written in late 80s but it's good.

>>121817

in my reality everyone had two dicks

i miss my second dick..

>>121819

I'm calling bullshit. I have two dicks and have changed realities multiple times without losing either or both of my dicks.

I just want to give thanks for the success of this thread and the sigils I posted in it.

Granted I was progressively getting drunker from the time I started this thread, but at no time was it intended to be a mockery.

Jumping timelines just gave me an excuse to pour out the emotion needed in both the music videos I posted and especially in the actual sigils I drew as I went.

I didn't make the thread as a larp or as a disingenuous jab at anyone. I've experienced things that will never translate into the normiesphere and don't even bother trying anymore.

Anyone in a similar position knows what it's like to draw the ire of the npc's, to the point that people around you are like "What the fuck man!?" Crazy shit.

So, don't take offense if you misread the intentions of this thread. I take magic serious, believe that reality is far more comprehensive than our higher selves is going to let us see, and only wish good on all people, even if that good is a shitstorm.

Thanks, and good luck.

Also fuck off if you can't take a joke.

I remember toy story 2 being slightly different with Woody's nightmare involving Buzz Lightyer flying.

>>120661

chick-a-fil

Damn anon the timeline is really messing you up.

I miss our talks.

Also, some of these sigils could use a recharging.

Timelines have shifted, but that doesn't mean we are out of the woods, so to speak.

>>128634

for full affect/effect open image in private window, then meditate or contemplate what the image conveys or means to you personally

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_IX_Hispana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Battalion,_9th_Marines

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>>110395

>Timelines

Yes, and it's a long, /x/tier story. Might as well spill my guts since it's an anonymous board & I'm feeling morose today already.

I actually created my own system years ago based around time manipulation that I called "Chronomancy", and after a LOT of meditation, invocation & general mucking about I figured out how to switch timelines (also how to speed up & slow down time itself, make a day last a week for example. A few other things too). I got VERY good at it. Loosely based on a combination of inspirations, mainly Sacred Math, Austin Osman Spare, Tibetan Dream Yoga, Pranayama, Lovecraft & Carlos Castaneda. Chaos Magic Theory too obviously. It's hard for me to explain, for reasons that'll be obvious.

So one day, circa 2009, I finally decided that I wanted to try something different - a timeline where I've got plenty of money, a wife, just good old Mundane worldly success. I'd moved through plenty of others at this point, all fairly similar, just a few details different (it was almost a more extreme version of belief shifting for me) - but I didn't understand the ramifications of this jump & I got stuck. Basically, it was a timeline where I wasn't an Adept any more (obviously) - the others had all been into timelines where I was just a different kind of Adept (sadistic LHPer, selfless RHP New Age Christian, you get the picture), since I was after knowledge - at least someone with enough "power" that with minimal effort I could get up to speed & jump back agon. I wanted to explore being "normal", and I got my wish! Siddhis man, there's a reason the old Masters tell you to beware of them. I'd expected that I'd be at least able jump again, but it was just all gone.

So while I still have the raw knowledge I haven't spent decades applying it & evolving into it here, and I can't really make it work. I have no Chi & my etheric body is puny (my material one was fortunately in decent /fit/ shape, but more a power lifter build than yogi - my joints ache, sigh).

Worse this timeline does indeed seem to itself have been hijacked (yeah, the whole Berenstain bears thing in 2012), and I swear it's more "solid" than my home timeline. Maybe I'm just imagining it but trying to actually progress again is incredibly difficult for me. Even worse than that, I'm actually aging (I'd stopped at about 18 to 20 for nearly 10 years when I jumped to this stream), I get sick again and I can't rapidly heal any more (healing siddhis, loosely time manipulation based though). I can't even Lucid dream anymore ffs - all the muscle memory and neural/psychospiritual pathways are just not there. I don't even know any kung fu (I was great with Tai Chi, a wonderful martial art for magicians, as well as Judo)!

It's really confusing, I keep trying to do simple things that I have tons of memory of (say, juggling or guitar playing or something) and I just fail at it. Meanwhile, I have a whole bunch of skills in software development & project management - it kind of just "appears", but I'm not entirely sure what I know, since I don't recall learning it.

On the bright side, I have a great job and a loving wife here, so that's…nice I guess. Plus I'm pretty sure imageboards never developed in my home timeline (I was still hanging out on IRC & I'd never heard of them, and I switched back in 2009 - I'm damn sure I'd have heard of /b/ if it had existed). I'd kinda like to be able to jump again though, as this world is going south fast. I need to find the time to write my system out, try to spend some quality time recalling it all, developing a training program etc - but it's tough. I didn't have to work before (family property that I don't have in this timeline), & I have no idea how any normie peasant can be a magician with all this day to day crap tiring them out.

Anyway, that's my sad tale about alternate timelines. Take it, leave it, call it a larp. I can't help you that much in a practical sense, beyond suggesting you learn to "breathe" the timestream as you go to sleep, maintain your awareness through the hypnogogic state as you enter & you'll discover there's a kind of "intersection" between all your possible selves. You can then more or less "wake up" (much as you would in a lucid dream), but inside the body of another "self". There's more to it than that & you can develop rituals to help the process, attunements to Saturn especially, and a lot of preliminary exercises (getting familiar with the timestream - literally just practice breathing while looking at a watch hand and try to alter how fast or slow it seems until you enter a "gnostic" state/experience Samadhi with Time itself). Like I say, I'm still trying to dredge it all back so I can apply it and escape, but those were the most important techniques IIRC.

>>133841

Crack head bullshit. Probably.

I'll say only probably because something bumping around in my bedroom woke me up last night. As Shatner once eloquently stated "Khan!", just add the lepre'.

Then I had one of the craziest dreams, where after a long slog through a lot of machinery and things, I had a meet up with an alternative self from a different timeline. This was a very different self, accompanied by his older wife. More assertive, more fixed.

The experience was fascinating for both of us. He seemed curiously amuded by me, while I generally disliked who he was, more as the meeting went on. He made solid choices and stood by them, where I simply went with the flow (and got flushed).

It was trippy. And I don't do drugs. I think mostly the dislike was jealousy on my part. But again, the whole thing was trippy, memorable. An arranged meeting.

Crazy shit.

May have all just been my mind. Except what woke me up and the curtains moving where the window was closed. No bullshit. I'm not an /x/ poster and don't give a shit about larping.

>>133850

>amuded

When your subconscious invents new words

>>110395

[self help]

>>133850

My theory is that all of the various "selves" in each timeline are still connected via the "higher self" or whatever you want to call it. It's just not normally noticeable, and you can't normally change places. They'd be a lot closer together in the dream state though - so that's why the technique relies on having mastered lucid dreaming first.

Bear in mind, time is a really difficult topic to discuss or think about - it's not so much that time moves (in fact, from one point of view everything is happening at the same time), as that your perception continually "falls" through it or alters it's relation to it. I remember Peter Carrol wrote a book about it (barely readable either) - basically about how sorcery can be considered the art of creating "patterns" or "events" in time, how intentions create synchronicity, how that ties into free will, and so on. I forget the name. It's also strangely tied into space, as in moving around in space actually can also move you across "timelines" - really subtle effect though & hard to describe what I mean by it. Gah.

"Crackhead" shit or not though, it's an interesting topic & one I don't see many magicians focused on. Given that it's another path to immortality (real immortality too, not vampire parasitism or something), not to mention a ton of other nifty abilities & insights you'd think there'd be a lot more written on the whole topic.

>>133863

>My theory is that all of the various "selves" in each timeline are still connected via the "higher self" or whatever you want to call it. It's just not normally noticeable, and you can't normally change places. They'd be a lot closer together in the dream state though - so that's why the technique relies on having mastered lucid dreaming first.

Seems legit. Accurate.

On further brief reflection of the dream of meeting another "self", the idea I get conveyed is "No". That my conscious self will never navigate timelines the way I would like. That a completely different self is the one who made the choices for a completely different timeline.

And again, it may have all just been theater. Entities dress up wearing memories like costumes in dreams. Always towards passing on some useful lesson or knowledge, even when I completely miss the point.

From lucid dreaming experience, I will say that these are distinctive entities entitled to a degree of respect.

Posting the "machine" video seemed like a premonitory thing. Slogging through a machine land to reach a place where access could be found for another "self". It was only after the slog, being led, that a place was finally arrived at where the "other self" was just on the other side, and invited in.

The "Powwow Blues" was random google search. The "Pow wow" I was searching for was about German Dutch Pow Wow magic, not Native American Powwow's. But I thought the song was cool, and definitely fringe.

>>133874

Also, meeting my "other self" was like meeting yourself when your other self is Dom Corleone.

I felt like a complete fuck up, even though being true to who I am. The shit I tolerated this other self dealt with without remorse. Being looked at with amusement, sympathy, and pity, was harsh.

Yet, I would rather die alone in a desert, than live a minute being full of shit.

[Which is probably where the pity came from.]

Sorry for the fucking blogposting.

>>133841

My guess is that software directly interacts with etheric mass like continuous mindrape going on 24/7 for most anyone living here? Consider that digital relates to the hands and that you're very much complicit in your work position - then consider the caste that plays the role of "hands of God" - the baalim.

Have you considered Viynana Bhairava Tantra (IN SANSKRIT) and "magic" in the form of mathematics/geometry practice with good intention? Or "Torah and Mitzvot" + alepbeis? Or Enochian, "Chenuch" is literally the guy sitting down writing for the tetragrammation.

I got suckered back into some social circles when I went full Saturn here and it seems like someone broke both my wrists and both my ankles as well, or I'm starting to succeed mastering bone structure.

Pretty disappointed in people still. Shit memory functionality and barely even the capacity to remember dreams. I don't even truly care about people I know or meet fucking off into different timelines or universes or whatever the fuck else.

IMO higher self is how you get assraped, there are souls, humans are compounds of souls with a specific outline, spirit is whatever is a 100% uncatchable inside a soul, call it absolute or perfect or abstract depending on your attitude.

>>133872

Interesting insight - maybe the other version is "more advanced" as it were, and is exploring the technique himself. Well, when you think about it, ultimately it doesn't matter which "self" gets to be enlightened - ultimately that benefits you in this life as well. Good point that it can be another entity wearing a mask too though.

>>133877

>In Sanskrit etc

Not a bad idea anon. Maybe approach it from more of a "programming" perspective you mean? And yeah, it does seem like there's a relationship there between programming & magic, in caste terms. Hmmm, a bit to meditate on there.

>>133869

Well, he IS the danger.

>>133888

Or c: Little people/lepre [Shatner voice] "Khan!"'s engineered the whole thing and did it in dream time for me to resolve issues.

Super Power'd Majic Sigil

of the Vid'ya type

use irresponsibly

best o' luck

>>110395

This thread has reached a level of mojo I didn't think possible.

I'd like to thank my [future] sponsors

in A.A.

>>133841

There is a sort of spiritual timeline that graphs the development of the changes of the physical timeline.

It's like when a timeline ends, or even when an event in a timeline happens, people/entities decide that there's probably a better way, and they go back to a previous point to split the timeline and try again. However these splits are graphed, and you can't do over a previous timeline.

But even that's a oversimplification. It's more like, your higher self (not god, not the eternal spirit, but some intermediate version of yourself. 5D or 6D, when you are a 4D (or 3D…) version of yourself in this realm), a more advanced version of you that exists outside of physical time, sees the end of the timeline that you are traversing on, and creates synchronistic events to help you shift to a seemingly better timeline.

You can't do over a previous timeline if there is no higher energy to help you shift to it.

Now overall in the big picture, the 'best' timeline or the most meaningful or potentially practical timeline (words which have nuanced differences in meaning for all the different entities, but the entities that are PRESENT in a particular timeline obviously all agreed to fuck around together, or at least their 5D versions decided, and our 4D selves are just here for the ride, with only our actions to be tested and influenced by our own selves that exist outside of physical time…

I think it's PRETTY CLEAR that this universe is where the most entities are the most present (still much less than before; a lot of souls switched timeline in 2012, and many of them just died or got fucked elsewhere, so they are slowly and grudgingly coming back to this timeline)

Yea this really is the best timeline. I have a lot of theories about all the differences in this timeline, and all the major shifts, but pretty much every major event in history was not in the original timeline. We are so advanced in this timeline, there have been so many changes.

It's like playing new game+++, or going to level 1 after getting prestige or all that shit.

This timeline has the most experienced and stable entities working to create a decent environment that apparently is conducive to the most development possible, compared to all the other timelines.

If there's a better timeline, we will soon invent it and many of us will shift to it, without any conscious perception.

Now personally I don't see the benefit in trying to fuck around with this shit when I am still an amateur in the 4D/5D experiences. I'll let my 5D/6D self deal with that shit, all I can do is speculate from my limited perspective here in the physical… I mean I already know what to do, but how and why we got here doesn't really matter when you can see everything in the HERE AND NOW and know very well in what direction things are going.

This is why I like saying that History is my weakest subject. I say it jokingly, but shit like berensteins and mandela and whatever, absolute complete waste of time to try and figure out. Yeah maybe shti happened, now move on.

That being said, although I used to be obsessed with changing the past, within the past few years I've realized that everything that happens is meant to happen or it simply wouldn't have happened in the first place (thanks to the Ain Sof…). I do not believe that you can change the past because obviously what that really means is consciously switching to a timeline from a higher dimension to manifest as awareness (and then somehow connect with all the memories that aren't yours?). You might as well reinvent the whole universe if you could just fucking manifest your own awareness in other vessels, across timelines no less…

What I think is happening, is either two things which is kind of the same thing. Either you were able to channel visions from your 6D self and witnessed the mechanisms of how the higher dimension makes it's decisions in finding the best timeline, and the visions felt like experiences you actually had, OR you're a really high dimensional being that is only pretending to be 3D (aren't we all? I don't want to stop pretending and accidentally delete myself or something, so I'm fine right here) and from the higher dimension you literally traversing back down and up through dimensions… Maybe you allowed yourself to go to timelines that are basically empty (only you who are present, and everyone else just empty vessels, basically dream characters of your dream) or something of that sort, but the reason it isn't working anymore is because it was never supposed to work.

Going to a timeline that has already been determined to be a meaningless existence, is not conducive to personal and spiritual self growth… So it's inherently meaningless, and your higherself will go through all hell just to make sure you are having meaningful experiences, spiritual growth, etc. Your growth is contingent on their existence, after all

>>133888

CHECKING THESE TRIPS THOUGH Yes this permission granting at the highest level is certainly thanks to the Ain Sof, which I would NOT call my higher self. That is THE HIGHEST SELF OF ALL EXISTENCE. The darkness behind the light… Or rather, the nothingness behind the light that is behind the darkness…10D or 11D or something

>>133841

The other thing that may have happened is that you have incredibly potent powers but since you didn't make use of them nicely the universe god mad and locked those powers up

GG NO RE

>>133877

>IMO higher self is how you get assraped

Yeah limiting yourself to a single notion of a higher self does tend to lead to assrape…

The higher self is supposed to be the ideal version of you. and you are supposed to be the highest manifestation of your ideal.

Putting a particular to the abstract of ideal is the limitation, and shows an arrogance of the imperfect physical being in concluding that they truly understand any particular ideal…

Limiting yourself to an ambiguous symbol is a decent middle ground, or even a phrase. I like 'cultivation of consciousness' but I'll be damned if I even know what the hell that is supposed to mean…

Practice Tantra with your wife and you will not have energy shortages. Casual newspaper reading (which, absurdly, is a technique for ultra-grounding) for mental stability and social acceptability.

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>>134153

Read all of them in Bogart's voice.

thanks

>>110395

context

spinal bifurcation and the soul