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 No.2 [Open thread]

Featured Threads: Resources: ( >>540 ) Questions: ( >>17126 ) Opposing Views: ( >>14534 )

Asatru Essentials: >>13 Rules: https://8ch.net/asatru/rules.html

Friends: >>>/fringe/ >>>/cucktianity/ >>>/pdfs/ >>>/zundel/

What is Asatru?

Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors – had their own form of spirituality that influenced every aspect of their culture. One expression of this European spirituality was Asatru. It was practiced in the lands that are today Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and other countries as well. Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions. Nevertheless, Asatru is more than just a religion in the narrow sense of the word. It is our way of being in the world; some of us call it the “Germanic Folkway” to underline this larger concept.

What does the word “Asatru” mean?

It means, roughly, “belief in the Gods” or “those true to the Gods” in Old Norse, the language of ancient Scandinavia in which so much of our source material was written. (A more literal translation would be “gaining experience of the ancestral sovereign gods.”) Asatru is a name given to the religion of the Norsemen, but we use this term to include the spiritual worldview of all the Germanic peoples, not just the Scandinavians.

When did Asatru start?

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 No.16635

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 No.19742 [Open thread]

https://8kun.top/x/res/62629.html

Thank you in advance!!

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 No.19741 [Open thread]

Help me please https://8kun.top/x/res/62629.html

Thank you in advance

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 No.19734 [Open thread]

Based Thread

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 No.19732 [Open thread]

Odin is just another name for Shiva. Rudra/Shiva/Mahakala and Odin line up closely. Vedic/Indian/Tibetan and norse magick evoke the same deity in one form or another. Norse runes are also related to Turkish runes, wow, that's a lot to talk about. Germanics speak a turkish language, their gods have turkish origins and turkish names, and germanics also had a turkish culture like horse-flesh eating. There are gokturkic runes that pre-date all futhark runes by centuries in Mongolia and tales of eight legged horses are found in Kazakhstan as well, relating to the nomadic oxen+horse combination most travelled with. Yggdrasil is Ygac a Sil in turkic meaning "Noble world tree" and Asgard is Askal Gol (City Lake). Ostrogoth comes from Austergok, auster coming from Latin meaning southeasterly and gok coming from gokturk. It literally means southeasterly turk. Same with Ostrohun.

Also, Tyr used to rule before Odin so a migration from "Tyrkland" as the scepter is passed makes sense.

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 No.19733

>>19732

You started this post alright with the connection to Eastern gods, because of course there's a connection because og PIE roots. However, as soon as you mentioned the supposed Turkish connection and your reasoning for it your post went to shit and then just further down.

Firstly, the runic similarities are only visual. The letters don't correspond with one another at all. The reasons for the similarities are likely because they wrote on similar surfaces (rock and wood) and that they adopted their letters from a similar source, likely Greek or some Aramaic script, from trading and/or travelling. At most you could say they got inspired from one another, but there's no concrete record for such interactions between them.

Second, your claim that Germanic Gods, culture, and languages, have Turkish origin, is blatantly false and historically illiterate. You must be a turk to make such a claim. Anyway, the Gods between the two are similar because they both derive from PIE source, same reason why Eastern religions are related. Phonetic similarities for their names are also there because of the same reason. You make connections between religious terms and names in old norse and Turkish, when you don't know what the old norse terms even mean. Yggdrasil doesn't even mean "World Tree", it means Óðinn's Carrier (Yggr (freightful) + drasil (horse, an animal that carries or drags)), a symbolic reference to how the tree carries him (literally by hanging) through a terrifying/terrific experience of ascension and rebirth. Ásgarðr means Fortress/Garden of the High Ones (Áss meaning high and Garðr meaning a closed off area). Ostrogoth does not com from Austergok. Ostro means eastern, yes, but that's not a reference to Turkey but rather that they are an eastern Gothic tribe. East as in eastern Germania. The term Goth comes from Got-þioda, Got People. The term is likely related to Gautar, a name for a tribe in southern Scandinavia.

And since you mentioned "horse-eating culture", note that horses were not universally eaten among all germanic peoples. They were eaten by some and others shunned eating them.

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 No.19731 [Open thread]

What does /asatru/ think of Rökkatru and Thursatru?

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 No.19711 [Open thread]

How did the ancient Europeans believe that reincarnation works? To be more specific, did they believe that there were limits on what one could reincarnate as?

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 No.19713

>>19711

To understand reincarnation, one must first understand The Spirit. Your Being is comprised of multiple levels, not just two components (body and an soul, like in Christianity). One must also understand that these components correspond to the Divine Hierarchy. The most general components is the Tripartite. Óð, Fylgja, Hamr. Those three correspond to the First Act of creation, where Óðinn, Vilji, and Vé killed the primordial Jötunn Ymir to Make Existence. Hamr is the form, body, needs, the physical. Fylgja is your twin spirit, That Which Follows but also Pulls You Forward. It is an inherited spirit that comes before you, is above you In The Now, that is to say it's above you in Body. It is the Will which pulls you towards the Higher, to better Hamingja by gaining honor. The Fylgja is also represented by the Horse, so for Óðinn it is Sleipnir, and in some sense Ymir as well. It's inherently ancestral, so it can be thought to be a single manifestation of your ancestors, but more accurately their Spiritual Honor. Then, there is Óð, The One Who Directs. This is your Highest, your true spirit, and it is this that gives Higher Inspiration (to be Óðr is to be divinely inspired) and Revelation.

There are more parts of your being, as shown with the accompanying animals of Óðinn. Huginn and Munnin are his two ravens, who represent the mind and memory, and they fly all over to accumulate knowledge for Óðinn. In the same manner, our mind and memory works the same way. Then there are his wolves, Freki and Geri, they represent ambition and initiative but not in the purely physical sense as in greed and act. All of these accompanying animals are types of Fylgjas to Óðinn, and for us they are necessary components of your Being.

So to summarise, the Hierarchy of Being within us is thus:

Óð

Fylgja

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Hugr & Minni

Frek & Ger

Hamr

Solt & Losti

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 No.19714

>>19713

cont.

Now, with that out of the way, we can move on to the nature of reincarnation. That which is of a higher nature, that is Fylgja and Óð, those parts reincarnate. Or rather, one part reincarnates whilst the other lives on forever. The Fylgja reincarnates multiple times through a family, and it is what shapes the family and Pulls it towards honor and better Hamingja (hence the relation between the two). According to Tradition, the fylgja manifests physically for each person as the placenta (which itself is also called fylgja for that reason, at least in old Norse), in order to shape and create the new born person and attach a certain Óð to them, and hence the relation to Ymir (The Twin, every Creative Act requires a Sacrifice, in this case it is the body of the Fylgja, the fylgja, and it dies after the new person is born). This is why they were traditionally buried almost like a person, either under a threshold of a house or under a sacred tree.

The Óð, the highest part of your being, both reincarnates and stays in an afterlife. It reincarnates in that it possesses a new body after a certain amount of time, to experience new lives and accumulate more Honor and Hamingja. However, just like how Óðinn sends out his mind and memory to do that task, our Óð likewise sends such aspects of itself to do that task.

One of the crucial aspects of paganism is reconnecting to your Óð. This is something only those that live according to a Higher Ideal (trust their Óð and Fylgja, live according to the thousands of year old ancestral wisdom) can achieve. And they did this by remembering past lives. The only things that one truly remembers from a past lives are moments which were of a spiritual importance to the person, hence why living according to a higher ideal was necessary (to live honorably and heroically, do something memorable). The myths again point as to how then remember, by going through a ceremony of rebirth which acts out like how Óðinn hang on Yggdrasil and how the gods found golden tablets in the mounds in Völuspá, and countless other metaphors in other myths and even later folklore. Probably the best description of a person describing the feeling was by Sæmundr Fróði in is Sólarljóð. In Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.19721

>>19714

This is fascinating. And it does match my previous research about the nature of the soul. Why have I never checked out this board before?

Where can I read more?

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 No.19722

>>19721

Well, this board is pretty dead most of the times. I don't know why though, I'm rather new here myself. It's a shame, this board would have had a lot of potential.

There's not a whole lot of places you can read about this that I can point to directly. I'm myself Icelandic so I just read the source material in old norse. So, it wasn't too hard for me to understand the stories. That coupled with related Icelandic folklore and traditions that I grew up with, so I just learned this myself. I also read Icelandic academic papers that I come across. So all of the sources I can point to are either in Icelandic or Old Norse, so they might not be that helpful. But, even so, my recommendation is to just read the Eddas and try to translate the names, with an Old Norse or Icelandic dictionary or online search. Comparative mythology would do good too, that's where I lack due to my lack knowledge of other mythologies (and I don't know the source languages of those myths which would be very helpful). Then just ask questions, as many questions as you can think of both to others and yourself.

If you want youtube videos, STJ makes some good videos. There are some things he can do better, but overall it's alright enough to at least start with.

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 No.19730

>>19722

Oh that's cool. Have any of you ever shared these subjects with anons on the imageboard webring through anon.cafe? They're from when the site used to be known as 8chan but they're not exactly that fast, either, the least slow among them being 8chan.moe

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 No.19680 [Open thread]

>Loki was the adopted son of Odin, whose father were Ice Giants

>Loki spent his years trying to fuck over his brother out of jealousy and spite

>Loki Ushers in Ragnarok, the end of the gods where in Thor gets killed by Jorumgadr, Odin dies to Fenrir and the world gets bathed in darkness

Loki is literally the god of Non-Nordics/Jews. I remember reading about Egyptian Mythology and seeing that the god Set (equivalent to Loki) was the "god of foreigners".

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 No.19688

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>>19680

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(deity)

>Set (/sɛt/; Egyptological: Sutekh - swtẖ ~ stẖ[a] or Greek: Seth /sɛθ/) is a god of deserts, storms, disorder, violence, and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion

>(((foreigners)))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

>Hyksos (/ˈhJksɒs/; Egyptian ḥqꜣ(w)-ḫꜣswt, Egyptological pronunciation: hekau khasut,[4] "ruler(s) of foreign lands"; Ancient Greek: Ὑκσώς, Ὑξώς) is a term which, in modern Egyptology, designates the kings of the Fifteenth Dynasty of Egypt

>In the Aegyptiaca, a history of Egypt written by the Greco-Egyptian priest and historian Manetho in the 3rd century BC, the term Hyksos is used ethnically to designate people of probable West Semitic, Levantine origin

>While Manetho portrayed the Hyksos as invaders and oppressors, this interpretation is questioned in modern Egyptology

>Josephus associated the Hyksos with the Exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. Many modern scholars believe the Hyksos may have partially inspired the Biblical account

>The Hyksos are known to have worshiped the Canaanite storm god Baal-zephon, who was associated with the Egyptian god Set. Set appears to have been the patron god of Avaris as early as the Fourteenth Dynasty

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 No.19726

>>19680

Loki did actually go and solve a lot of the problems he caused once confronted with them though, never heard of them cleaning up (((their))) own messes the way he often did.

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 No.19729

>>19680

Clearly you didn't read the myths yourself (otherwise you would know for instance that Ragnarök is not the end of the Gods, and like what the post above said Loki fixed a lot of his problems himself and many of them indirectly benefited the Gods greatly). And if you would then clearly you likely wouldn't have the capability to grasp the myths further than word for word reading (without even understanding them).

Come back when you're more matured spiritually. When you stop viewing the myths and therefore the world through the lense of a contemporary time.

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 No.19700 [Open thread]

Are you worshipping the Aesir, and Vanir, but still holding on to the heliocentric belief? Heliocentrism(round Earth) was invented by the catholic church, which I'm sure most of you know is controlled by jews.

This means that jews invented heliocentrism

>but what about the greeks?

The only account of round Earth in ancient Greece was by Pythagoras, and it was never accepted by people then.

It's time to quit believing this kike lie, and go back, do you really think our gods want you to believe in a false view of the world?

Of coarse not, and if you can't accept this, then you are just as lost as the Christian sheep!

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 No.19710

>>19709

Retard, the fact that Pythagoras proposed that the earth was round is fact enough that it was not invented by the Catholic church, and you still completely gloss over the entirety of Christianity's existence where the vast majority of their theologians and followers proposed a flat earth model and considered anything else as heresy. You absolute baboon.

>So you're just basing this off of pure speculation and no actual evidence to back it up. The only thing's that were pulled were the Sun, and the Moon, and they don't pull it in space, outer space does not exist, the Sun, and Moon are simply just luminaires, and not terra-firma objects that you land on, same goes for the Stars, they're just luminaires that are attached to the firmament/skydome that covers the Earth. The Sun , and Moon are simply pulled in the sky, above the clouds, not in "space".

Don't mistake my care for presenting evidence in a factual and honest manner as speculation, it's more grounded in reality than the junk you spouted. You make a lot of claims without any referencial basis, they are not grounded in what is actually written. And you completely miss the point I made, you aren't supposed to read the myths as literal, physical descriptions. This is further seen in your next paragraph.

>One last thing, if you claim that flat-earth isn't in Asatru, then why does the creation story involve beating Ymir's body down, and crushing it, do you think that would somehow appear round, and how about the fact that Odin, and his two brothers literally get Ymir's skull and use it as the firmament/skydome, if the Earth is just flying in space why even need a skydome?

The story doesn't envolve them pinning him down like you pin a person down to the ground. There are no literal descriptions as to how they defeated him, only that they subdue and then kill him. You then go to claim that they used his body to create "the firmament". There's no such term in the myths, they only say that they made Miðgarðr (The Central Home, Our Home) out of various parts of his body. You are trying to shove the mythPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.19716

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>>19710

So you're basically saying that the myths are synonyms for modern science/nature?

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 No.19717

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I think I'm done here

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 No.19719

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>>19716

>So you're basically saying that the myths are synonyms for modern science/nature?

What? How did you even remotely come to that conclusion if you read what I wrote? I'm honestly just baffled.

No, what I said is the complete *opposite* of that. Science is the study of The Physical. Of course, the study of the physical works fine under the myths, but as a completely different field below. The Myths are expressing the Metaphysical Laws of existence, that which supersedes all that is Physical. Hence, for the fourth and last time, the Myths are not and cannot be *literal descriptions* of Physical existence (that is Nature, the universe and all within). You are the one trying to bring them lower down as such descriptions, however you even fail miserably at that since there's nothing in the myths that fits your stupid worldview. Please, just do everyone a favour and off yourself. It might just gain you some sliver of honor for removing yourself for being such a damned fool. I say it again, peasants like you should not be allowed to have any say in religion. Just shut up and do as you are told.

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 No.19728

For all the reasons cited above, this is retarded. However, if anyone is interested in an alternative cosmology that works well with Asatru, consider the Glacial Cosmogony.

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 No.19104 [Open thread]

ITT we collect everything related to vocal ritual worship of the gods.

Prayer texts, prayer beads et cetera are all welcome ITT.

http://valhalska.webs.com/prayersandblessings.htm

http://www.northernpaganism.org/resources/prayers-rituals.html

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 No.19275

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>>19272

>when somebody saves ur picture

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 No.19683

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I don't like using the term prayer, as begging wasn't considered a good gesture (rude and shameful if anyting). >>19107 is a fine video, it gives a good summary on what people did in the past, with good descriptions of said acts. But personally I find it lacking a crucial thing, as it only looking at the act without reason behind the act. To sacrifice (blóta) is not just to exchange gifts (the act), it is to express that you are opening yourself to the god as a loyal friend. That is essentially the essance of pagan faith (trú), trust and loyalty. You are offering something that is off your self to the god which is to symbolise your trust, and if the god trusts you back, then it will also offer something off itself.

This sort of relationship is antithetical to prayer (biðja), asking without giving. Not only is that rude, but it also gives off the idea that you intend to rely on the subject you invoke, to submit to them and be indebted to them.

I know this might all seem like semantics, but it is important as the mindset you have whilst invoking the Gods is crucial. Don't go in asking for favors, and then look at the activity as a exchange in goods and services. Look at it as a expression of loyalty, as symbolism for opening eachother to one another, and you are expressing it through the act of giving.

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 No.19697

>>19110

Just to make a correction, in Icelandic we don't have "Kåre" (å doesn't exist in our language), but we have Kári (pronounced "Kauri") and he is a wind giant, son of Fornjótr. There's a saying here that if the winds are strong then Kári is angry.

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 No.19725

>>19683

I'm pretty new to this. What would you say is a worthy thing to sacrifice?

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 No.19727

>>19725

It depends on the god in question. Alcoholic beverages and food items were likely used traditionally, though more simplistically, money also works.

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 No.17126 [Open thread][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is for /Asatru/ related questions that don't need a separate thread.

#1: >>299

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 No.19712

Did ancient Europeans believe that there were limits to what a person could reincarnate as?

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 No.19718

Do heathens actually have a literal belief in their gods like how christians have a literal belief in Yahweh?

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 No.19720

>>19718

The Myths are not descriptive, so the proper interpretation is a metaphysical one beyond existential feelings. But with that said, yes, the gods exist and influence through their physical incarnations and expressions (that is, the physical world and all within). However, they are not considered as literal anthropomorphic beings like how Christians view God, and trying to bring the Gods down to such a level would be idiotic. The Myths are told the way they are as expressions for us to better understand that which supersedes the Body, and they can only do that via symbolism related to the world we understand (see and feel). So no, the stories are not to be taken literally, not by the elite. Slaves and related lower classes (those ruled only be The Body) may take the myths literally though, and follow the examples of the gods as historical events to imitate in effort to participate in something grander than themselves (something all Traditionalists also strive to do). And most did that by just listening and following what the elite said because they knew the elite knew much more than them. So in that sense some pagans (don't use the word heathen it's dumb to do so) did indeed believe the Myths literally and therefor perceived the Gods through that lense. However, free thinking people. However, any free man, people who thought and created by themselves, they didn't take the myths as such. They undrestood that there was much more to the stories than that, that the nature is not by itself the Gods, but that they worked through nature (and therefore narture was sacred as the Bodies of Gods and Spirits). But, they couldn't understand the myths on a very deep level, and they didn't even know all the stories (mostly local folklore). And they knew that, so they followed wise elites (Jarlar, Goðar) and learned from them. Then there were the elites themselves, who truly understood the symbolism behind the ceremonies and Traditions. And they understood them intrinsically, remembered all the myths by memory, and could therefore lead society according to the Higher Principles and could see existence in ways normal men could not.

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 No.19723

Can a mexican practice Asatru?

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 No.19724

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 No.19703 [Open thread]

There are more then 70 gods, and goddesses in norse mythology, but since you claim to worship them, how many of you know your gods, and goddesses, and can you name all of them?

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 No.19705

>>19703

This is a rather faulty premise. I get what you are saying; it's dumb to claim to revere something whilst not knowing anything about it. But with that said, not every God or Godly thing was worshipped, and they were certainly not worshipped like how christians worship God. Only a handful of them were subject of great worship at high festivals, and many gods were considered derivitives of other gods; if not as their children then a derivitive role. For instance, Óðr is the husband of Freyja, however, whilst he is considered a different character from Óðinn (less important), he has a derived role from Óðinn (and arguably Freyja had a similar relation to Frigg). Most of the "Smaller" gods work that way, as either children, servants, or otherwise related characters that are derivitives of those more important and powerful Gods, and such gods were not worshipped but respected (elves fall into that category as well, as the subjects of Freyr and "small gods" of local areas). Then there's the other issue of shared role (related to the issue mention previously), or that of a God in different bodies. The seperation lines between one God to another can sometimes be quite blurred, as with Óðinn and for instance Heimdallr. Both have very similar roles and function very similarily, and it is interesting how Heimdallr (or Rígr as he was portrayed in Rígsþula) is quite an important god to royalty in Rígsþula, however, historically Óðinn or even Ingvi(Freyr) are the most important ancestral gods to Kings and clans. So it would seem that Óðinn and Heimdallr had closly linked roles, and were possibly considered synonymous by some people (even Freyr, but he has more distinct lines than Heimdallr).

Then there's the issue of Gods having multiple names and appearing with different names, but that's an easier issue to solve as it's usually mentioned who he really is (and I assume you don't mean this). So to go back on to the main issue with your framing, knowing the names of all the gods is fine, but worshipping them all equally is not. There's a distinct hierarchy of the Gods, there's a hierarchy among Ásar and Vanar, and among Jötnar (and finally Hrímþursa but you definetly don't worship them).

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 No.19706

>>19705

cont.

So, I'll try to answer that question with that in mind. I will first mention the most important regin among each branch (the ones you sacrifice to during high festivals and in temples), but not in order of importance.

Ásar (and Vanir as well, since their roles and importance were intertwined):

Óðinn (Lóðr, Hænir, Vilji, Vé, and then possibly Heimdallr as well, were all arguably aspects of Óðinn and therefor not revered seperatly from him, unless the occasion called to when they needed the special properties and symbolism behind the name)

Ingvi(Freyr)

Freyja

Frigg (possibly she and Freyja were somewhat synonymous, although, Frigg might have been a more Higher Mother figure, in the same vain as Óðinn is to Óðr)

Týr (a remnant of perhaps a more singular god of Óðinn, Heimdallr, Ingvi, and all other male primarily Father like gods)

Baldr (he was probably worshipped in a similar manner to Dagr, Sól and Sunna were, but more specifically as Brilliant Light in a more general sense, beyond just the sun and the seasons, but the beginning of the winter season is heavily linked to his death)

Þórr

Njörðr

Then there are the gods which likely weren't really temple gods, but were all deeply respected and revered in homes and individually (and according to the occasion), and would be sacrificed to during home blóts:

Iðunn

Eir

Lóðr (likely an aspect of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

Hænir (also likely an aspect or epithet of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

Vilji (also likely an aspect or epithet of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

Vé (also likely an aspect or epithet of Óðinn, and revered as such according to context)

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 No.19707

>>19706

Then there's Loki and his kin (Fenrir and Miðgarðsormr) who will be the eventual enemies of the Gods. Loki is his own category, as he is both a Ás and a Jötn, and he definitly wasn't a figure that was revered in a very positive light, and definitly not his children (except for maybe Hel, who is more neutral than anything eles). So, he and his children belong to no strict category, other than that they will become the enemies of the Gods.

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 No.19708

>>19707

cont.

Then there's Jötnar. Some also belong in the enemy category, however, since mythologically at least half ar neutral or even friendly, then I put them all in the same category as was done before. Some of them were indeed worshipped, so I will mention them first:

Búri

Bor

Bestla

Gunnlöð

Mímir

Bölþorn

Hel

Ýmir

Auðumbla (Auðumbla is generally not considered a Jötun, as she is a cow: however, I still catagorise her as related as these primordeal Jötuns such as Ymir are much less "humanoid" in their state, as they are primordeal and powerful. But If you disagree with my placement of her here then that's understandable)

Þorri

Góa

Then revered but unworshipped in festivals or temples (you also get into the territory of trolls, in which case they are even more numerous than dwarves):

Grýla

Fornjót

Kári

Logi

Hlér

Angurboða

Surtr (and all his children)

Any of the Dwarves

Any of the Trolls (Grýla is one of the principle trolls, but like with elves, most are nameless since they are local to their area)

So this was my counting of divine beings in Mordic Myth. Obviously here are more, I know, and I won't claim to know every single one there were. But one must also consider their hierarchy, and knowing every single one is not as important as knowing their role.

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 No.19439 [Open thread]

Do you believe in the gods as influential materially existing deities, or do you just value the ethics/worldview of Germanic (or other PIE) religion?

Have there been any books attempting to comb through different pre-Christian European religions and distill all the ideas contained therein about how we should live in the world as individuals/families/societies?

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 No.19516

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>>19513

>>19515

What is Grimnismal.

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 No.19533

>>19515

Why would a 'powerful spiritual being' need to assume a physical form? And what exactly is a 'spiritual being' anyway?

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 No.19534

>>19533

>Why would a 'powerful spiritual being' need to assume a physical form?

Does it need a reason to if it is capable of doing so?

>And what exactly is a 'spiritual being' anyway?

A being that does not have a material form. Would you expect the gods to made up of actual physical matter like you and me? Obviously not

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 No.19539

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>>19533

Giants have never needed a reason. That's why they must be hammered back into place. Be weary, for Giants come in many forms like in Grottasongr, always inquire into their race, unlike Frodi.

8. "Thou wast not, Frodi for thyself over-wise,

or a friend of men, when thralls thou boughtest;

for strength thou chosest them, and for their looks,

but of their race didst not inquire." -Grottasongr

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ffs eveyone in this thread are zelous larpers. Imagine not understanding the deeper metaphysical truths within the stories, and instead do like the christians and take them literally like some peasants and þrælar. This is what happens when you read translations instead of reading the actual source in the original language.

The gods are higher kennings that we can only understand with referenceable characters and personifications of said concepts. The stories are written in a way so that we can better understand the deeper underlying Truth behind the inner workings of the world through allegories. These higher Laws/Patterns are expressed in the physical world in the things we see and feel, the physical; That is the physical aspect of the stories. However, that is only so that we can have a baseline for reference when we experience Divine Revelations and experience the Higher; we can then grasp the metaphysical through the physical expressions.

This is why Óðinn hangs on Yggdrasil, the world tree, for nine days and nights, sacrifices himself to himself, falls down screaming and then comes to understand Esoteric Knowledge. The pattern is similar to Childbirth, not because it is Childbirth like some of Vargians like to say, but because the Higher State of Rebirth functions similarily but in a metaphysical manner; it's not that you literally see a tree (or teh placenta!!1!1), but this Movement of falling down this Tree and being Reborn feels similar.

Ever since the conversion of Christianity, and even more so after the reformation, people have been obsessed with the existential question of the Divine. Not only is this spiritually bankrupt, materialism masqerating itself as religion, but it muddles the water of Truth. Instead of trying to understand the Kennings, decipher the Higher Principles presented in the myths, peasants now get a say in how we interpret the myts. To peasants and slaves, the sun is the charriot of Sunna ("the gods are spiritual entities duuuuud"), bringing it to the level of normal spirits ("they are just larger spirits duuuuud"). Religion turns into superstion. In the same manner, naturalists go in the other end just say that the trees and stones are the gods ("gods are just allegories for those physical things duuuud, all ChallengesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.19681 [Open thread]

>beautiful white woman

>can breed many white children with her

>save the white race

>fertile and ripe for breeding

>must breed fertile woman

>i love those genetics

>must breed with women

A lot of closet fags in this board.

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 No.19685

>>19681

Me on the left

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 No.19696

>Someone who honors their ancestors and upholds traditions

Or

>Some dude with a personality disorder and stupid mustach who thinks he's some guy from 80 years ago because he has no personality or identity of his own

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 No.19684 [Open thread]

Anyone else feel a strong connection to the philosophy of Zoroastrianism? I find it more relatable on an instinctive level than other religious faiths.

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 No.19695

What about it do you find interesting?

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