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Varg - About Halloween

>>850

I don't understand this, why is Freya observed on this day? Should it not be Thor? I heard Thor was "god of the Harvest" (forgot from which source). Would it not make sense that we should sacrifice to him? Freya is often associated with Spring since she is a goddess of Fertility I mean she is the Norse equivalent to the Germanic Eostre who is celebrated on the Spring Equinox (Easter).

>>8504

>Freya is often associated with Spring since she is a goddess of Fertility I mean she is the Norse equivalent to the Germanic Eostre who is celebrated on the Spring Equinox (Easter).

Aye. I also thought that Walpurgisnacht was a more appropriate time to offer to her as well. Though I don't think it's too much of a stretch to honor her on a night honoring the Disir.

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>>8732

I plan on reflecting on the past year and how to improve myself. Perhaps be an edgelord and offer my blood as a sacrifice. By the way, does anyone know the actual way to blot to each god? The havamal seems to say you shouldn't give too much, but I don't understand what this means

>>8738

>The havamal seems to say you shouldn't give too much, but I don't understand what this means

Just my thought. Perhaps "too much" means "you shouldn't give so much of your blood that you fucking die." So at any point between a drop of blood and death could be seen as being "enough."

>>8485

I'm just gonna have a little private Winter's Night blot this evening.

Did a ritual where I had an ancestral vision seeing a burning man and drinking mead with men and women in white robes.

It was really nice, then It got too cold so I pussed out and went ontop of a mountain and listened to my ancestors teach me aboht the stars. Then got cowshit on my foot and had to go home.

why call it samhain? youre not vaels are you?

>>8591

>vaels

*gaels

There's no such thing as masculine 'homosexuality'. Its a mental illness and treason against your people.

>>8489

See >>8454

Homosexuality was not regarded by the Viking peoples as being evil, perverted, innately against the laws of nature or any of the other baggage about the concept that Christian belief has provided Western culture. Rather, it was felt that a man who subjected himself to another in sexual affairs would do the same in other areas, being a follower rather than a leader, and allowing others to do his thinking or fighting for him. Thus, homosexual sex was not what was condemned, but rather the failure to stand for one's self and make one's own decisions, to fight one's own fights, which went directly against the Nordic ethic of self-reliance. (Sørenson 20). Being used homosexually by another man was equated with cowardice because of the custom of sexual aggression against vanquished foes. This practice is documented in Sturlunga saga, most notably in Guðmundar saga dýra where Guðmundr takes captive a man and his wife, and plans for both the woman and the man to be raped as a means of sexual humiliation (Ok var þat við orð at leggja Þórunni í rekkju hjá einhverjum gárungi, en gera þat vi Björn prest, at þat þaelig;tti eigi minni svívirðing.) (Sørenson 82, 111; Sturlunga saga, I, 201). In addition to rape, defeated enemies were frequently castrated, again testified to in several places by Sturlunga saga. Grágás records that a klámhogg or "shame-stroke" on the buttocks was, along with castration, a "major wound" (hin meiri sár), ranked with wounds that penetrated the brain, abdomen, or marrow: the klámhogg was thus equated with castration as "unmanning" the victim, and classed with wounds that cause major penetrations of the body, strongly suggesting that the term refers to rape or forced anal sex such as was inflicted on a defeated combatant (Sørenson 68). It is not known how widespread the practice of raping defeated foes actually was, or if it existed before the advent of Christianity, but in other cultures which have had as strong an ethic of masculine aggression as existed among the Vikings, the rape of defeated foemen was obligatory. The attitude that homosexual usage of an enemy was a means of humiliation in turn would have weighed heavily against men in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>8455

Why do you think everyone on earth calls a submissive man a bitch or a fag; because the act of allowing oneself to be penetrated is a submissive act

sage for off topic

THE TREE HAS FALLEN!

depends who you ask

but the whole idea of astrology is that basically, the planets are the physical representations of the gods , and their energies flow down to earth and effect us daily. the picatrix makes this very clear, and states that each planet is basically the face or "head" of a god

i dont really worship planets, but it is odd that each planet correlates to its god pretty well (mars is a war-torn wasteland that looks like its been bombed for a million years, jupiter is the largest and uses power of gravity to sling powerful bolts away, saturn has a fucking jew star on its forehead)

>>14516

>jupiter is the largest and uses power of gravity to sling powerful bolts away

Don't forget Jupiter's other aspects of raw power. It's radiation belts are such that even being near it would kill you; it's skies, littered with greek zeus' thunderbolts.

>saturn has a fucking jew star on its forehead

Lol, this is not saturn the god though. Rather, saturn is saturn, that is chronos, because he is subordinate to jupiter in this world's order and as the slowest moving classical planet, has the most purview of time. That he is adorned with rings that appear as sharp as a scythe and is likewise a dangerous hydrogen gas giant like his son and successor jupiter is also something to consider.

The saturn = YHWH thing needs to die. Saturn is the bloodthirsty and supplanted titan of the ur-myth of the greeks and romans – Ymir, even, in our myths.

>>14457

Huh, I've never considered the jotnar as being a real people, but a mythopoeic understanding of nature vis-a-vis with the aesir.

The jotnar, then, are the mountain, the wood, the storm, the sea…the untamed earth that very well can kill us if we don't know how to tame their wiles.

And the knowledge of this comes from the aesir and vanir. Odin the wanderer who, with his wide-spanning wisdom of the world and traveling, teaches us to outsmart them. Thor, with his unyielding strength, teaches us to overcome them by endurance. Even Loki, who's dishonor, teaches us to use any means necessary to defeat them in the most bleak of situations. Freyr teaches us how to lord over the land and rule it.

Our gods are gods of making gardhr – enclosures like asgard – to secure human life over and against the jotnar, who threaten it, and through boldness, take the boons the jotnar have hidden away.

Basically, the whole thing is an illustration about civilisation vs. natural dangers. our gods are civilisers, the jotnar – the wilds.

>>14526

Then there's jötnur vetur, Skadi who rules Hel.

>>14149

>r-remember the communist vikings?

>>14356

It never fails to piss me off when someone conflates tribalism and communism.

>>14151

There is immense shilling, every thread remotely mentioning religion devolves into "kike on a stick" and "muh wicans".

>>14149

How, the devil of Asatru is depicted as being a pervert and homosexual (loki) and several eddic poems are basically about how sexual depravity is bad (most notably Lokasenna).

He, I can see these people worshipping Loki or the Jotuns, or perhaps some of the Vanir, but the Aesir! neh!

>>14436

We already have an aztec and greco-roman thread, also

>Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

>paganism

asatru and European polytheism should still be the main focus, but a thread on chinese land spirits isn't going to fuck with the board's integrity.

>>14438

>We already have an aztec and greco-roman thread, also

And in every thread everyone tells OP to get lost.

Learning about other cultures and whatever is fine, but we should really have a non-Euro general for this.

>>14447

>but we should really have a non-Euro general for this

That's my point

>>9706

TGGI

In more modern terms, the journey of Odin has parallels with the "crossing the abyss" sought by Thelemites, which is a metaphorical death and rebirth as expressed in the ancient Greco-Egyptian formula of I.A.O.

Esotericism can hardly be reclaimed in the way it may have existed once a thousand years ago as it is secretive by nature and probably varied wildly among the many little groups practising it that way.

Do modern Asatrus even want to be esoterics is the question?

Pondering over very specific hidden meanings in small circles which may inevitably absorb some newage or /fringe/ elements as you dont easily make up a new spiritual current from a few stories and your independent mind alone without borrowing seems like a road to endless fragmentation and obscurity.

On the other hand, if you worship deities, people will call you out as a LARPer when its by practise alone. The moment you come out with deeper independent thoughts about it you drift into esotericism which is often not taken seriously as well. (Often for good reason)

Reading about the definition of Esotericism it makes me wonder if there even is a way to be conpletely non-esoteric about it while still having a faith that is not ritualistic only and can be understood by outsiders (which seems to be among the first steps to respect).

>>14469

>hurrr we know nothing about presents aryan religion

>here's some sourceless funfacts about presents aryan religion

Ok I can spend some of my free time arguing why you are wrong, you seem like a smart gu-

>Valhalla is Christian ! Hurr only Christians believe in afterlife, just ignore elysium from Greco-Roman myth and the fact that "Heaven" is linguistically based on haven, a germanic word

Greco- Roman Wrestling and boxing. Just learn both. You may not be able to compete in MMA but you can fuck someone up in a street fight.

just learn boxing.

>>14359

what if im taken down to the ground, or fighting a kickboxer or grappler?

throwing fists at peoples heads will just hurt my hand tbh

>>14363

Thing is that before you have to worry about the hypothethical scenario of having to fight a variety of asiatic special fighters or a jewish grapple-and-poke-in-eye Krav maga squad you should come to the point where you stop shaking or get into panic mode if your average dude starts threatening or hitting you.

For that boxing is said to be quiet straightforward and good because they'll make sure you are ready for some time and then train actual blunt fist to face combat so next time you are faced with aggression you think a bit more clearer.

I dont know about asiatics in asia, but in the west many fighting sports are said to have become kinda ritualised in such a controlled enviroment that you need way longer until it becomes useful in other situations.

>>14318

All of that stuff is pretty cool

>>14320

Guess you must settle for a home altar then and practize what is compatible with an urban lifestyle.

I mean.. Tree-sanctums seem to be one of those places that usually already have had a very long history of communal worship and whatever indians may or may not have associated with old mangrooves-its probably not what you want to turn to anyway.

>No quietness

Sucks. Use Headphones maybe?

Either noisecancelling or with something that equals out noises into a steady stream like binaural beats or a soft version of white/brown noise.

Any1 have an estimate on how many posts we lost?

Some of the threads from the upper pages seem to have missing images in the OP, i think this is a result of the database recovery or something

Oddly enough none of the older threads are affected by this it seems which is all the better of course heh

What exactly happened?

>>14310

Idk hackers as far as I know…

>>14131

>can be pagans

>/asatru/

>"Asatruar"

>"Another name for the faith is the Icelandic Ásatrú, which translates as "allegiance to the Æsir" – the Æsir being a sub-set of deities in Norse mythology."

Hmm.

From north england, blonde with blue eyes and have a nordic phenotype. Gonna take an ancestry test but I know it'll show up probably Irish And Scandinavian, maybe scottish as well.

>>14138

I know it's b8 but shit you're a newfag if you don't know that the deities are the same in most IE religions.

>>14140

>From north england

Same though originally from Derbyshire way. I really want to move back to the peaks. It's comfy af there and 97% white.