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 No.8433 [Open Thread]

Is anyone else looking at this invasion of Europe that's happening right now and coming to the conclusion that the widespread resurgence of some form of European Paganism is all but inevitable at this point?

The flood of Muslims is seemingly endless, their murdering and raping is beginning to spread outside of the shelters as they seem to be tired of raping their own women and now attacks on Europeans are becoming increasingly common, white Europeans are finally starting to wake up in large numbers and every day more and more people are becoming enraged over this insanity, and we have gone well past the point that this could be ended peacefully and massive amounts of violence is now unavoidable.

As for how this relates to religion and spirituality though, it just seems to me that some form of European Paganism is the only likely result of all of this. Humans need spirituality and without it we descend into the same abyss of nihilism and apathetic hedonism that large parts of Europe have already been in for several decades now, so Europe will need some kind of spirituality that the people can rally around as the violence begins and chaos erupts throughout Europe. I don't see any trend towards a Christian revival that would make me think that Christianity will be the choice of Europeans outside of maybe Southern and Eastern Europe. Christianity is just rotting right now, and even Christians will admit this if they're honest. Christianity is on life support in the rest of Europe and when it is practiced then it's practiced in such a watered down and meaningless way, so it seems impossible to me that most of Europe will rally around Christianity as a spiritual source of strength in the coming conflict.

If we look at the present trend amongst Western European nationalists though then it can be argued that a kind of primal and subconscious form of European Paganism is already being practiced. If you look at the symbols that they're using, the artwork that they admire, and the heroes and figures that inspire them then almost all of it is pagan. You might see a crusader painting here and there, but that's definitely in the minority compared to the amount of people who are connecting to their identity as a white European through symbols and images that are dPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.8442

>>8440

>secular European nationalism

>Nationalism.

>Secular.

Nationalism and spirituality are like conjoined twins sharing the same organs: separate them and they die.

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 No.12677

All the Old Gods will walk the Earth again, not just those of the North.

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 No.12678

I don't know if we'll see a lot of people believing in the Gods,but we will see people shake off "white guilt" and start loving themselves, their ancestors and wanting a better future for their children and grandchildren*.

What will happen when the number of "awoken" Europeans reaches the tipping point remains to be seen, but I predict a Europe of & for Europeans in the future.

* By which, I mean a future where the country is overwhelmingly or 100% of the native people.

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 No.12684

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>>8433

>>You might see a crusader painting here and there, but that's definitely in the minority

They are really the same same thing or at least the same ideal, it was Germanics who made Christianity a warrior cult. The Templars/Teutons even still used runes up until their complete annihilation. The spear has a place in Christianity not because of Jesus but because of the one eyed god who stares at me from the dark. All Germanic languages use the word God, which is a form of Gautr which is a Germanic deity. All Romantic languages use the original Deus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaut

To the Gothics whose patron god was usually God who was a deity of weapons. The Visi-Gothic word for weapon is gun, while the normal word for weapon in Saxon is seax. These are named as so because to Saxons their "weapon" god is Saxnot but for Goths and Vandals its God, unknown the stories of Saxnot and God but here's a Gothic poem you might like, strangely enough it seems to occur with relative frequency with minor changes throughout the years of the history of our people.

"The mighty Gaut bless our arms when the time comes. Be peerless just has you always are, judge by yourself [and only yourself] whether we deserve our freedom. Ferra bless our fighters …"

God is only for your weaponry while probably Ferra if being Freyr can only bless the people actually fighting. In Saxon during the dabble into Christian mythos you see the word Lord becoming Freyr as well check out Caedmon's hymn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cædmon%27s_Hymn

>>metudæs maecti end his mōdgidanc

It even mentions Wotan as well.

>>æfter tīadæ firum foldu, Frēa allmectig.

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 No.12687

>>12684

>All Romantic languages use the original Deus.

…which in itself derives from the pagan IE root dyēus ph₂tḗr and was repurposed for Christianity

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 No.8480 [Open Thread]

Hello my fellow aryans, did you worship your god Odin today?

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 No.8481

Please provide actual link for these sources, this sounds like a load of horseshit. I have never heard anywhere that Odin drank dead mens semen, I googled the book "Before Homosexuality" and found nothing except some Muslim book.

Go back to /christ/ and suck off a little boy, catholic creep

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 No.8491

Now this is some elaborate homosexual propaganda.

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 No.8492

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 No.12671

youve posted this faggot kike shit a couple of times already go away

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 No.12679

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Cuckstians and Jews. Two peas in a pod!

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 No.8626 [Open Thread]

The father god and ruler of the Tuatha Dé Danann. Perhaps the most important of all the Celtic deities, Dagda (sometimes referred to as ‘The Dagda’) was worshiped by the Celts as the god of magic, wisdom, and fertility.

Dagda’s many fine possessions indicate the array of his talents. His magical club could kill with a strike from one side and restore life with a blow from the other. The weapon was so big that it could injure more than one man at a time, and Dagda had to drag it behind him on two wheels.

His cauldron could provide an endless supply of food for the gods. His fruit trees were always ready to harvest. Of his two swine, one was always roasting upon a spit while the other was always alive.

His harp could summon the seasons.

In various stories, Dagda is named as the son, the father, and sometimes the husband of the mother goddess Danu. His wife is usually given as Bóand. He also mates with Mórrígan at the start of the new year. His many children include Angus Óg, Bodb Derg, Brigit, and Midir.

Dagda killed many Fomorians in the second battle of Mag Tuired. But this battle ended his career, for he was killed there by Caitlín, wife of the Fomorian leader Balor.

In the middle of the second battle of Mag Tuired, the Fomorians and the Tuatha Dé Danann called a truce. The fighting halted for a short time, but neither side let its guard down. The Fomorians kept themselves busy looking for ways to gain the advantage over their adversaries. They thought that if they could distract the great father god, they might be able to win the battle. They also knew that Dagda had a weakness for porridge, his favorite food, so they decided to concoct a porridge of superhuman proportions.

The Fomorians began by digging a massive crater in the earth. They poured in enough milk to satisfy an entire village for one year. Then they added enough fat to supply an entire kingdom for two years. Next they added enough meal to feed every man, woman, and child in an entire province for three years. Then, for good measure, they threw iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.8652

Well don't leave us hanging, post the rest!

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 No.8508 [Open Thread]

November 1, 2015

http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/the-solar-storm-seana-fenner-11-1-15/

Kyle speaks to Seana Fenner of Odinia International. They discuss the importance of our ancestors, communion with the dead, connecting with the gods, the possibility of reincarnation, the role of Ragnarok, Seana’s recent articles at VikingAlthing.org, and much more.

The links http://odinia.org/ http://vikingalthing.org/article/

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 No.8509

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 No.8266 [Open Thread]

Found this article on Heathen Harvest. It is dated by five months, so old news but worth mentioning (didn't see it anywhere on the catalogue).

It is a response to a sloppily researched article by VICE magazine (aren't they all?) about the "violent racism" prevalent in folkish Asatru painting McNallens group as goosestepping Nazis no different than the Aryan Brotherhood.

Here is the original Vice article (archived to avoid VICE getting shekels): https://archive.is/UQIap

And the Heathen Harvest article: http://heathenharvest.org/2015/05/12/contra-vitium-how-vice-mischaracterized-a-religious-movement/

The Heathen Harvest rebuttal is pretty good as it argues in a moderate way which would garner sympathy from outsiders who may otherwise be turned off by any sort of indigenous European tribalism (couches the argument within the paradigm of multiculturalism and preserving religious minorities).

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 No.8267

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>that Vice article

What a fucking hit piece.

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 No.8382 [Open Thread]

Hey don't you have to die a warrior's death or else you go to Hel?

How do you all intend to go out?

I bought two axes and I am going to get a hunting permit and go on a berserking rampage and fight bears in the forest till one gets me and I die with my axes crossed across my chest lying peacefully in the forest

Is that enough to get me to Sovngarde?

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 No.8383

Sage and ban plz we've addressed the whole afterlife thing a billion times with the christfags, at this point they're just trolling

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 No.8384

>>8382

>Is that enough to get me to Sovngarde?

No but it is enough to give the bears the shits though. Fucking Sage

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 No.8162 [Open Thread]

Thoughts on Ernst Jünger and his views on chivalry (sportsmans-like attitude/behavior in Storm of Steel and name-dropping Ariosto), his figures of the Soldier, the Arbeiter, the Waldgänger, the Anarch and his late conversion to Catholicism in the twilight of his years?

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 No.8167

He was white and redpilled

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 No.8043 [Open Thread]

Should norse heathenry ever become the leading faith of white nations again, should we re-introduce this game here as a national sports pastime?

Kinda like football in contemporary american society but as an asatrufied version instead

What would a Knattleikr stadium look like? What would the Knattleikr version of superbowl be called?

Let's share some dank ideas ITT

http://www.hurstwic.com/history/articles/daily_living/text/knattleikr.htm

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 No.12452 [Open Thread]

I have become fairly efficient in mental travel and evocation of entities.

I require deities other than Kek and Eris. Chaos alone won't fulfil my needs.

Tell me about who I can go to for magickal knowledge, love, physical cultivation, and various other matters?

Otherwise I'm going to have to chaos magick this shit and invent new egregores, but that's going to take a long-ass time to do. I especially want right now a deity that can help me find the perfect wife, so I don't make any mistakes there, and end up with a wife that is truly for me.

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 No.12599

>>12597

>bishops, synods, etc

>things early Christianity had

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 No.12600

>>12597

what are gothi and vitkar then?

how come the rigsthula mentions specifically a structured society based on race?

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 No.12606

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>>12585

>Project your own life situation onto others and accuse them of something that obviously isn't true

>They point out that you're wrong and projecting

>"LOL U DUN HAV TO INVALIDATE MY BASELESS ADHOM PROJECTIONS I'M DERAILING THIS THREAD WITH LIKE ALL THE OTHERS I'VE BEEN DOING IT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS BECAUSE I'M SUCH AN OBSESSED LOWLIFE STALKER SPERG VIRGIN"

Kill yourself and fuck off back to your dead hugbox where you belong you sad little projecting kissless + handholdless permavirgin loser sperg without any friends lel

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 No.12660

>>12606

insecure defensiveness - the second, all hail

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 No.13675

>>12580

>>Paganism: Because Jewish tribes were ignorant sheep-fuckers,

That's a strawman argument, no one who's done their research actually believes this.

What we believe about Jews is that they are a foreign culture, and that we have a right to maintain our unique cultural identies as white pagans.

The Jews have their own ethno-religion, it's called Judaism. Well, Asatru is ours. No one's telling you to stop practicing (((Christianity))), if you want to be a cuck that's no one's loss but your own.

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 No.7922 [Open Thread]

Hello /asatru/

I've always been very interested in norse mythology, and especially the sides of it that deals with nature and our ancestors' spirituality concerning it.

Here in my country, we have this organization called Forn Sidr that I heard about many years ago and decided to investigate, and while they do indeed claim to practice asatru, they came across more like a hobby club than an actual religious circle. They talked very little about any kind of actual religious beliefs and a lot more about how we should all just get together and talk it out and come up with our own idea of what Asatru should be in modern times. While I think it's fine that they're open to new ideas, it put me off too, because it made it seem like it was more like a roleplaying club that held very little regard for the traditions and ideas of the old ways.

My first question here is, is there really enough information regarding the viking beliefs to revive this "dead" religion and provide genuine answers to spiritual questions in modern day, or will it always just be a corrupted and modernized imitation?

My second question is, I'm aware there's a lot of neo-nazi connections to "Wodenism", and that many Scandinavian and Germanic ultranationalists look to ancestor-worship more for its justifications for their political beliefs than any genuine religious conviction. Is that something that takes up a lot of space in the various Asatru circles? Do you find it's generally accepted, or do the "true believers" shun those who use the faith as a political tool?

Thirdly, both Islam and Christianity has tons of secondary literature on their primary sources, i.e the Koran and the Bible. Could you recommend me literature on this religion, apart from the Eddas? Has anyone written about the Eddas and what they mean in a religious sense?

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 No.7923

>>7922

>My first question here is, is there really enough information regarding the viking beliefs to revive this "dead" religion and provide genuine answers to spiritual questions in modern day

we know enough to recreate several varieties of ritual, to the point that, in form, asatru can be about as complex (if not a but more rustic) as a typical catholic ritual.

we know enough from sagaic literature, the eddas, and various legal codes to make a rough estimate as to what our ancestors found to be moral. following gragas, havamal and the various nuanced moral implications presented in the eddas would be about as complex as following the mosaic law.

so in terms of having a religion that's roughly as complex as other living religions, we can indeed do it.

>will it always just be a corrupted and modernized imitation?

it will never be the exact same as what it was in the year 900ad, or in the year 200ad, or before…but the religion of 900ad must have seemed a corruption of the year 200's etc.

most modern religions are a far cry from their original forms and are all "corrupted". compare modern judaism to essene judaism, or the henotheistic yahwism of 600 or so BC.

compare modern shinto to the shinto of the time of the kojiki.

compare the catholic church to the 1st century church (hint: they have very different theories of atonement that change alot about the meaning of christ).

all religions are "corrupted" by time.

>Is that something that takes up a lot of space in the various Asatru circles?

you'll definitely see it, and even in this community it exists, but it's not everywhere.

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 No.7926

>>7923

Thanks for answering my questions friend, I'll take a look at that site.

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 No.7958

>>7923

> My problem is with people like varg vikernes who literally make shit up and pull it out of their asses just so they can have something to use politically.

What has Varg pulled out his ass or lied about?

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 No.7573 [Open Thread]

What does /asatru/ think about Golden Dawn's hellenic pagan roots and membership? If Golden Dawn win the coming elections and get leads, you could see a true interpretation of ancient European paganism manifest in state-funded avenues

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 No.7576

>>7573

I wouldn't say they have roots in hellenic paganism, more that they have roots in ancient Greece as their model to strive towards. Greece after all is almost entirely eastern orthodox christians. I doubt we're going to see this turn into the Greek version of the Nasjonal Samling and go full pagan. If the Golden Dawn win the coming elections we are going to see a strong nationalist party come to power and wipe its nation clean of evil foreign influence, and possible some ethnic cleansing if we're lucky. They golden dawn will be good for European people in general, but it won't do any good for paganism unless they have a major shift in religious policy.

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 No.7629

Golden Dawn pretty much became putinist and judeo-orthodox so no

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 No.6793 [Open Thread]

Do we have an official calendar for holidays? Which one do you use? If we don't have one I suggest we put all the important dates and events into one ITT

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 No.6808

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Ripped straight from Odin's Volk:

1. YULE (Jol) 20th December – January 1st

2. DISTING (Disablot) 31st January

3. OSTARA (Ostara) 21st March

4. MAY EVE (Valpurgis) 30th April

5. MIDSUMMER (Midsumarblot) 21st June

6. FREYFEST (Freysblot) 31st July

7. FALLFEAST (Haustblot) 23rd September

8. WINTER NIGHTS (Vetrnaetr) 31st October

9. LESSER FEASTS Days of Remembrance

LOOKS LIKE FREYFEST IS TOMORROW.

Fire up your grill and prepare a noble burger sacrifice.

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 No.6810

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Happy Freyrfest!

I put on my most volkisch clothing, cooked some biscuits (I make damn good biscuits) and cut up a cucumber (the first vegetable we've harvested from the garden this year)

I filled my drinking horn with milk because I don't have alcohol and went to my small stonepile altar.

I called upon my ancestors and the land spirits and Freyr, said a prayer, and took a bite of the foods before tearing the rest up and putting it around the altar. I then poured some milk and drank the rest. Not exactly le noble burger sacrifice but oh well

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 No.6932

in gaelic polytheism there's Samhain, (sow-in) Lúnasa (loonasa), Bealtaine (beltah-een) and Imbolc (i-molk)

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 No.6934

Printable PDF format when?

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 No.6883 [Open Thread]

Hey asatru, I have a problem. I follow asatru to the best of my ability (not many places around here where I can buy Nordic things), but I have thoughts of being a female. I know most heathens stance on being a tranny, and I agree. It's a mental illness. Is there anything I can do to quell these thoughts so I can get some peace of mind? I've already quit jerking away my testosterone but it just made my urges worse. Thanks for your help.

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 No.6884

The harshest side of me would say that you, merely having these thoughts, means you should be euthanized.

The gentler side of me would say you should just not think about it and focus on being a man. As Marcus Aurelius said, "Do not think evil thoughts, and evil actions shall not follow"

But yeah, transexuals are not welcome in our faith.

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 No.6885

>>6884

Thanks, that's what I was looking for. I'll just start lifting and take my mind off of it. I feel like a massive homo for thinking about it.

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 No.6897

Why would you post a shitty thumbnail OP

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 No.6892 [Open Thread]

The Bloop is actually Jormungandr, the serpent of Midgard, sleeping on the ocean bed, wrapped around Earth(Midgard) waiting to awaken on the days of Ragnarok.

Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBN56wL35IQ

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 No.6898

This belongs on /fringe/ tbh

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 No.7073

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>>6892

I mean I crack jokes about this all the time, but I don't think any of us actually believe that

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 No.7074

>>7073

a man can dream

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 No.7105

I mean what the fuck would a giant serpent eat at the bottom of the ocean to be so big?

Most colossal animals existed when earth was abundant and this age has everything much smaller. Although whales are massive and live off tiny things. I don't think its possible that these things have managed to exist without us finding out about them while also being so big and there would be a few of them unless they live as long as LOTR elves.

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 No.12644

bump

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 No.7435 [Open Thread]

>Ancient heathens were not Folk

k lel

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 No.7446

>>7435

>varg vikernes, a convicted murderer and arsonist

>implying that has any relevance

>implying i didn't stop reading there

it doesn't matter anyway. the world has changed, and we have seen the effects of multiculturalism, and they are not good.

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 No.7449

>>7435

>the ancients were courageous

>you lack the courage to be honest either with yourself or others

Solution: flooding native asatruar (the european peoples whose religion we're reconstructing) communities with Present Day Political Correctness; feminist progressive rokkatru universalist tribalist-as-in-rest-of-the-world-welcome-to-dilute-our-identity anti-racist liberalism

k

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 No.7465

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>The only intelligent arguments I got either admitted in the end that heathenry was never Folkish or recognized that the Folkish belief was modern, a UPG.

How nice. The only arguments that were "intelligent" fit into your predisposed belief system. Convenient.

>You are not heathen

If I repeat it enough it will become true

>You lack the courage to be honest with yourself and others

Like the Ledditrus and Norskk who ban dissenting opinions? That courage is real.

>You strike poses of yourself looking oh-so-tough with guns (Let me clue you in. People who are GENUINELY strong don't need pictures of themselves posing to prove it)

This seems to have gone off-topic to attacking gun-lovers/conservatives, not Folkish Heathens. Interesting. Also:

>what is Heathens Against Hate

>There are real heathens trying to bring us into the future. Get out of our way

Or what. You'll get triggered all over me? You'll ban me for hate speech? Start a hashtag?

Fuck you OP's pic. There's a special place in Hel for fags like you.

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