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 No.7922

Hello /asatru/

I've always been very interested in norse mythology, and especially the sides of it that deals with nature and our ancestors' spirituality concerning it.

Here in my country, we have this organization called Forn Sidr that I heard about many years ago and decided to investigate, and while they do indeed claim to practice asatru, they came across more like a hobby club than an actual religious circle. They talked very little about any kind of actual religious beliefs and a lot more about how we should all just get together and talk it out and come up with our own idea of what Asatru should be in modern times. While I think it's fine that they're open to new ideas, it put me off too, because it made it seem like it was more like a roleplaying club that held very little regard for the traditions and ideas of the old ways.

My first question here is, is there really enough information regarding the viking beliefs to revive this "dead" religion and provide genuine answers to spiritual questions in modern day, or will it always just be a corrupted and modernized imitation?

My second question is, I'm aware there's a lot of neo-nazi connections to "Wodenism", and that many Scandinavian and Germanic ultranationalists look to ancestor-worship more for its justifications for their political beliefs than any genuine religious conviction. Is that something that takes up a lot of space in the various Asatru circles? Do you find it's generally accepted, or do the "true believers" shun those who use the faith as a political tool?

Thirdly, both Islam and Christianity has tons of secondary literature on their primary sources, i.e the Koran and the Bible. Could you recommend me literature on this religion, apart from the Eddas? Has anyone written about the Eddas and what they mean in a religious sense?

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 No.7923

>>7922

>My first question here is, is there really enough information regarding the viking beliefs to revive this "dead" religion and provide genuine answers to spiritual questions in modern day

we know enough to recreate several varieties of ritual, to the point that, in form, asatru can be about as complex (if not a but more rustic) as a typical catholic ritual.

we know enough from sagaic literature, the eddas, and various legal codes to make a rough estimate as to what our ancestors found to be moral. following gragas, havamal and the various nuanced moral implications presented in the eddas would be about as complex as following the mosaic law.

so in terms of having a religion that's roughly as complex as other living religions, we can indeed do it.

>will it always just be a corrupted and modernized imitation?

it will never be the exact same as what it was in the year 900ad, or in the year 200ad, or before…but the religion of 900ad must have seemed a corruption of the year 200's etc.

most modern religions are a far cry from their original forms and are all "corrupted". compare modern judaism to essene judaism, or the henotheistic yahwism of 600 or so BC.

compare modern shinto to the shinto of the time of the kojiki.

compare the catholic church to the 1st century church (hint: they have very different theories of atonement that change alot about the meaning of christ).

all religions are "corrupted" by time.

>Is that something that takes up a lot of space in the various Asatru circles?

you'll definitely see it, and even in this community it exists, but it's not everywhere.

>Do you find it's generally accepted, or do the "true believers" shun those who use the faith as a political tool?

I could care less if asatru is used politically. My problem is with people like varg vikernes who literally make shit up and pull it out of their asses just so they can have something to use politically.

if it's valid and citable, I say use it as you will, but if you're lying about what's correct just to sell your ideology, fuck you.

>Thirdly, both Islam and Christianity has tons of secondary literature on their primary sources

christianity also has a tradition of literature going back to the 1st century AD. asatru's exegetical "tradition" rightly starts in the 1960s and 1970s.

There isn't much out there that isn't tied to either nationalist politics, new age shit, or anti-racist garbage.

however, http://heathengods.com/ has a few books written by their members that are pretty decent and not too far rooted up some nazi or pseudo-wiccan's ass.

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 No.7926

>>7923

Thanks for answering my questions friend, I'll take a look at that site.

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 No.7958

>>7923

> My problem is with people like varg vikernes who literally make shit up and pull it out of their asses just so they can have something to use politically.

What has Varg pulled out his ass or lied about?

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