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 No.19711

How did the ancient Europeans believe that reincarnation works? To be more specific, did they believe that there were limits on what one could reincarnate as?

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 No.19713

>>19711

To understand reincarnation, one must first understand The Spirit. Your Being is comprised of multiple levels, not just two components (body and an soul, like in Christianity). One must also understand that these components correspond to the Divine Hierarchy. The most general components is the Tripartite. Óð, Fylgja, Hamr. Those three correspond to the First Act of creation, where Óðinn, Vilji, and Vé killed the primordial Jötunn Ymir to Make Existence. Hamr is the form, body, needs, the physical. Fylgja is your twin spirit, That Which Follows but also Pulls You Forward. It is an inherited spirit that comes before you, is above you In The Now, that is to say it's above you in Body. It is the Will which pulls you towards the Higher, to better Hamingja by gaining honor. The Fylgja is also represented by the Horse, so for Óðinn it is Sleipnir, and in some sense Ymir as well. It's inherently ancestral, so it can be thought to be a single manifestation of your ancestors, but more accurately their Spiritual Honor. Then, there is Óð, The One Who Directs. This is your Highest, your true spirit, and it is this that gives Higher Inspiration (to be Óðr is to be divinely inspired) and Revelation.

There are more parts of your being, as shown with the accompanying animals of Óðinn. Huginn and Munnin are his two ravens, who represent the mind and memory, and they fly all over to accumulate knowledge for Óðinn. In the same manner, our mind and memory works the same way. Then there are his wolves, Freki and Geri, they represent ambition and initiative but not in the purely physical sense as in greed and act. All of these accompanying animals are types of Fylgjas to Óðinn, and for us they are necessary components of your Being.

So to summarise, the Hierarchy of Being within us is thus:

Óð

Fylgja

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Hugr & Minni

Frek & Ger

Hamr

Solt & Losti

Bræði & Ást

(basically Physical Feelings)

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 No.19714

>>19713

cont.

Now, with that out of the way, we can move on to the nature of reincarnation. That which is of a higher nature, that is Fylgja and Óð, those parts reincarnate. Or rather, one part reincarnates whilst the other lives on forever. The Fylgja reincarnates multiple times through a family, and it is what shapes the family and Pulls it towards honor and better Hamingja (hence the relation between the two). According to Tradition, the fylgja manifests physically for each person as the placenta (which itself is also called fylgja for that reason, at least in old Norse), in order to shape and create the new born person and attach a certain Óð to them, and hence the relation to Ymir (The Twin, every Creative Act requires a Sacrifice, in this case it is the body of the Fylgja, the fylgja, and it dies after the new person is born). This is why they were traditionally buried almost like a person, either under a threshold of a house or under a sacred tree.

The Óð, the highest part of your being, both reincarnates and stays in an afterlife. It reincarnates in that it possesses a new body after a certain amount of time, to experience new lives and accumulate more Honor and Hamingja. However, just like how Óðinn sends out his mind and memory to do that task, our Óð likewise sends such aspects of itself to do that task.

One of the crucial aspects of paganism is reconnecting to your Óð. This is something only those that live according to a Higher Ideal (trust their Óð and Fylgja, live according to the thousands of year old ancestral wisdom) can achieve. And they did this by remembering past lives. The only things that one truly remembers from a past lives are moments which were of a spiritual importance to the person, hence why living according to a higher ideal was necessary (to live honorably and heroically, do something memorable). The myths again point as to how then remember, by going through a ceremony of rebirth which acts out like how Óðinn hang on Yggdrasil and how the gods found golden tablets in the mounds in Völuspá, and countless other metaphors in other myths and even later folklore. Probably the best description of a person describing the feeling was by Sæmundr Fróði in is Sólarljóð. In short, some (Sólarljóð and Óðinn's hanging) describes a euphoric feeling, traveling out of your body, and most others as going into burial mounds that belonged to you in your past life (which is something tradition keepers, either Nornir or Goðar, would judge) and reclaim your goods (they are supposed to help you remember). However, one must also keep in mind that stores that describe going into burial mounds are also likely to express Óðennic feelings as well, rather than literal descriptions of going into burial mounds, but I'd argue that the two are highly linked. Of course, the purpose of burial mounds were to be a physical representation for rebirth. For one, most of the time there was a horse accompanying the dead in the grave, and it has the same symbolism as the fylgja pulling it into the next life. The mound represents the dead waiting to be reborn, and he is reborn when it is reopened by his next reincarnation. That's one purpose, but there are likely many more reasons for burial mounds being the way they were that varied between tribe to tribe.

So, I hope that answers your question. There is a lot more nuance to be said, but this should be a good start.

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 No.19721

>>19714

This is fascinating. And it does match my previous research about the nature of the soul. Why have I never checked out this board before?

Where can I read more?

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 No.19722

>>19721

Well, this board is pretty dead most of the times. I don't know why though, I'm rather new here myself. It's a shame, this board would have had a lot of potential.

There's not a whole lot of places you can read about this that I can point to directly. I'm myself Icelandic so I just read the source material in old norse. So, it wasn't too hard for me to understand the stories. That coupled with related Icelandic folklore and traditions that I grew up with, so I just learned this myself. I also read Icelandic academic papers that I come across. So all of the sources I can point to are either in Icelandic or Old Norse, so they might not be that helpful. But, even so, my recommendation is to just read the Eddas and try to translate the names, with an Old Norse or Icelandic dictionary or online search. Comparative mythology would do good too, that's where I lack due to my lack knowledge of other mythologies (and I don't know the source languages of those myths which would be very helpful). Then just ask questions, as many questions as you can think of both to others and yourself.

If you want youtube videos, STJ makes some good videos. There are some things he can do better, but overall it's alright enough to at least start with.

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 No.19730

>>19722

Oh that's cool. Have any of you ever shared these subjects with anons on the imageboard webring through anon.cafe? They're from when the site used to be known as 8chan but they're not exactly that fast, either, the least slow among them being 8chan.moe

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