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If you are feeling horny like too much arousal and desire for sexy

Literally visualize energy continually flowing up your body and spine to you head

Visualization is pretty OP way of intermediate transmutation of energy

A quick and dirty direct way is simply changing your perspective COMPLETELY. This has pretty much infinite applications

Usually alchemy twists with metallurgy… I know there's a lot more spiritually things you have to do and the ingredients are all encapsulation and you have to extract them a certain way gracefully taking them apart or grinding them and blending them carefully…

>>100267

Oh, look, some mundane literalist who doesn't know a thing about what useful alchemy is.

>pharmacology

You just encouraged the use of sorcery.

>>100291

oh look a useless piece of shit

>>100359

>What is the philosophers

Oh deary that reminds me of what Montalk says. Goes into some actual possible alchemy methods along with mechanical explanation of how thought effects the calculator of the physical universe though quantum etheric interactions

>>100293

Look, a soulless human projecting it's venom.

>>100366

I casted reflect. The only venom is the arrogant shitposter that actually didn't share a single thing of substance. it was borderline disinformation

>>100359

The third picture explains the symbology of freemasonry a bit

what the heck is mercury and how can something be fixed and volatile at the same time

Have any of you been able to relate and work with Ch, Chakra, or herbs in relation to Alchemy?

>>100387

Like I said

>If you are feeling horny like too much arousal and desire for sexy

>Literally visualize energy continually flowing up your body and spine to you head

this is literally distrubuting energy from the root up towards the different chakras

you don't need to do anything other than visualize as when there is an abundance the chakras will transmute by themselves

this is only when there is absolutely zero stimulus and you still have peculiar states of arousal. this is just actual untapped energy and is easily transferable

also I'm assuming all the chakras are considerably balanced. transmutation in general wouldn't work otherwise

The vague larping concept of alchemy in this thread is quite amusing…

It's funny how far some people are from the essence of truth.

I could describe alchemy but it's already holistically part of who I am, plus is what guarded from the mundane in the past for a reason.

OP, are you shilling in an attempt to discredit Christianity?

>>100390

Hey if you're too lazy to explain then say that but don't use bullshit as an excuse

I personally don't see how the more sensationalized applications of alchemy can be useful towards my goals but I can still share what I think is practical

What exactly did you or anyone have in mind? No particular phenomena was requested

>>100398

What was said that contradicts with Christianity?

>>100357

Correction. Hips not waist.

>>100386

just wew

>>100459

The moment the other person said mercury is willpower it all made sooo much sense to me at a deep holistic level it is amazing, and at first I didn't want to get into it since no one cares yet if they did they could use the knowledge for bad purposes. But it seems everyone is so stupid and can't connect concepts to practical application ha ha I digress.

In terms of chemistry, salt represents ions, sulfur represents potential energy and mercury is… anything that can be both, a perhaps malleable/fundamental substance.

I could go on and on about the spiritual correlations and the applications of these concepts. At least to me, this analogy is incredibly rich leading to insight of telekinesis (etheric manipulation of ions vs mental manipulation of potential energy) and direct physical manifestation through a fundamental substance.

Of course, the philosopher's stone is all about that manifestation.. But I have no interest in that. No proxies for me, I'd rather have inherent capabilities and not resort to an outside source even if it is my creation. That reminds me, perhaps experience in making egregores and deities can help temper the process and not lead to anything going out of hand.

Have you read of the ark of the covenant and how it was some sort of etheric manipulator allowing direct control of reality itself? Now that's a strong fucking philosopher's stone; however there seemed to be a deity that took control over it for abuse, after another deity tried using it for good? Crazy stuff that Montalk writes about

The Philosopher’s Stone is not just a spiritual metaphor but an actual substance that can transmute lead or mercury into gold. The Stone is a product of Alchemy. Unlike chemistry, which only deals with physical matter and energy, Alchemy makes use of etheric and astral energies to reconfigure matter at the quantum level. Alchemy is to chemistry what a cube is to the square; it is a superset of chemistry and is capable of so much more.

That is the introduction. I have stripped Montalk's discourse a little bit to mainly cover the chemical portion.

>Biological etheric energy comes from living things. That is because life incarnate cannot exist without etheric energy bonding consciousness to the body. Thus bacteria, plants, animals, and humans all contain and emit etheric energy. However, the quality of this energy varies depending on the source. Just as the Moon colors what it receives from the Sun, so do lifeforms color what they receive from a higher dimension.

>Thus not all forms of etheric energy are appropriate for the creation of the Stone since plant, animal, and human emissions are too distant from the Stone’s own nature, which is more that of a living mineral. Hence the Alchemists limited their search to the cosmic and mineral realms. And if they did look to the biological realm for assistance, they would only have found it among the most primitive of bacteria, for these are closest to the mineral kingdom.

>Water is an attractor and carrier of etheric energy, but it is not the only one. Salts also serve that function. Many different kinds of salt exist, all of them consisting of a metal joined to a non-metal. Table salt is sodium joined to chlorine, sphalerite is zinc joined to sulfur, while galena is lead joined to sulfur. Other metals such as iron, copper, magnesium, calcium, cadmium, etc. can form salts.

(Note: The root “pyr” is Greek for fire. The dynamic vitalizing force of the soul, the Demiurgic energy so to speak, was called “sacred fire” by the ancients. Therefore the root “pyr” is bound with the concept of Demiurgic technology. Hence terms like pyramid, Pyrenees, and pyrite, three terms that are very closely related to Demiurgic technology. As will be explained in another article, the Great Pyramid is a channeler, collector, and amplifier of etheric energy. The Pyrenees are the mountain range between France and Spain, where a conclave of powerful Alchemists allegedly reside. And pyrite is a salt of sulfur and iron that sparks when struck, and thus contains within it latent fire, or so it appeared to the ancients. This brass or bronze-colored mineral, or rather its starry pseudomorph known as marcasite, was the raw material preferred by Fulcanelli for production of the Philosopher’s Stone. Note that pyrite is also known as “Fool’s Gold.” It is the true gold of Fools in the esoteric sense, for they value it more than real gold; through it, they can make as much gold as they require and produce the Elixir of Life.)

>Metal is another good attractor and carrier of etheric energy. Of all common metals, Alchemists say that iron has the greatest affinity for etheric energy. It is therefore a curious fact that blood, the carrier of such energy in our bodies, consists mostly of water, iron, and salt. It is also interesting that in folklore and occultism, a piece of iron, a line of salt, or a stream of water can act as barriers to unfriendly nonphysical entities, who would have their energy siphoned away by these substances. Garlic and onions play a similar role in folkore, and their key component is the element sulfur. Sulfur is yet another etherically active substance.

>…metals were this one seed at different stages of growth, with gold being the final stage.

>Gold was considered to be oldest of the metals, the final state toward which other metals were evolving. But in its old age, gold had expended all of its etheric energy. What was left was a dead body (salt) carrying the image (sulphur) of gold, but lacking the youthful vitality (mercury) that younger metals still possessed. Thus the goal of Alchemy was to take the noblest of metals and reinvigorate it, thereby taking it to a state of evolution higher than anything achievable in nature.

>In practice, this meant starting with the youngest of metallic products, one so early in its evolution that it wasn’t yet a robust metal but rather more of a primitive metalloid. It had to have an affinity for gold and be a potent source of etheric energy, something that contained the secret fire of the cosmos. Alchemists chose a mineral that resembled gold but appeared darkened by impurities. This raw matter they crushed to a fine powder, fed with dew and oxygen, and incubated with heat.

>Their aim was to induce putrefaction in order to unbind the matter’s mercury, salt, and sulphur components, just as death unbinds the human physical, etheric, and astral bodies.

>This was difficult because putrefaction takes a long time in the mineral kingdom and the speed depends on the electrochemical qualities of the mineral which varies from mine to mine as well as the presence or absence of bacterial catalysts.

>In any case, when the appropriate factors are present, the mineral decomposes as intended. In successfully extracting the mercury and salt from this mineral and leaving behind the impure sulphur, they now had a youthful body and soul that could be joined to gold’s ancient spirit. This mercurial salt they called their secret fire, universal solvent, the “water that does not wet the hands”, common mercury, and alkahest. Alchemists believed it was the one thing by which the whole work could be accomplished, the one agent that could dissolve gold and acquire its sulphur.

>In the so-called “Dry Path” of making the Stone, this salt and the gold leaf are placed in a crucible and heated to glowing temperature for several days, thereby joining them into one. This path is the quickest but also the most dangerous due to the high temperatures and potential for explosions. In the “Wet Path,” gold leaf is mixed into the water-solubilized salt, then sealed in a glass flask and heated until the gold is fully disaggregated by the universal solvent. The result is a white buttery substance some have called “philosophical mercury,” and this is the Philosopher’s Stone in its nascent form.

>After putrefying this white substance to blackness, heating until its impurities are driven away and it turns white once more, then further heating and repetition of this process eventually produces a red oil on the surface. This red oil is the sulphur of gold completely fused with youthful mercury. Further heating and evaporation coagulates the oil into a solid. This solid is the Philosopher’s Stone in its finished form, unless one wishes to multiply its power by dissolving it in more fresh universal solvent (which is a donor of etheric energy) and repeating the previous operation, except using the Stone instead of gold leaf this time. This can be repeated any number of times, and each time a fresh dose of etheric energy impregnates the solid or oily remains and takes the Stone to its next order of power.

>Upon attaining success, the final result is a dense stone, red and translucent like a ruby. It is water-soluble, melts like wax, flows like quicksilver when melted, does not burn at any temperature, yet volatizes when thrown into the molten metal it aims to transmute. It is a physical substance supersaturated with etheric energy and imprinted with the vibrational fingerprint of gold. When pulverized, mixed into beeswax, and cast into molten lead, it transmutes a certain multiple of its weight of lead into gold. It can also transmute quicksilver the same way. The lead or quicksilver atoms are overwhelmed by the etheric potency of the Stone and become malleable at the quantum level, allowing the fingerprint of gold to reconfigure them accordingly, thereby converting these into gold.

>Alchemists emphasize that to succeed in this work, one must be of the highest ethics, have a deep mind capable of penetrating the mysteries of nature, and be a good observer and experimenter. Prayer and purity are essential to receive the intuitive insights and synchronistic guidance needed to discover the right steps in the right order. This is important because the less one understands about Alchemy, the more hidden variables there are, the lower the chances of success by trial and error. But if you are decreed so by destiny, or if you attain sufficient spiritual purity that higher forces deem you responsible enough to handle it, then you will be synchronistically and intuitively guided to success. But that won’t happen if you are driven by greed, skepticism, or other anti-spiritual motives, or if it goes against your karma and destiny. You don’t find the Stone, the Stone finds you.

>The secret is synchronistically encrypted from those who would use it to cause trouble for themselves or others. Even misguided help can be a form of damage, thus in addition to purity, wisdom is needed. And if by chance someone did discover it and attempted to cause trouble, they would likely die suddenly, as already happens to people who try to bring antigravity and free energy technology into the world. The Philosopher’s Stone is of that same vein. That’s why no Alchemist has ever revealed the full picture. They not only realize the terrible implications of its misuse, but fear what harm might come to themselves if they facilitate that by giving knowledge without sufficient discretion.

>Again, here I only give a general and limited estimation of the process for the sake of illustrating the underlying dynamics involved, as they are pertinent to my exposition on the Demiurge.

http://montalk.net/gnosis/174/the-philosopher-s-stone

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/substanc.html

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/alch-pro.html

Found a handy guide.

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/safety.html

Check the other stuff there for more quick resource.

>>100357

>>100464

Maybe it's a bit of-topic but I'd like a bit more of information on that

>>100752

Generally when we feel an unconscious desire for sexual release there is an excess pressure around our hips and lower area. This may come in the form of your prostate or bladder for example. It starts to push awareness down to the genitals unconsciously and you'll have thoughts of sexual nature.

The other form is similar to a burned out drug addict. If the body is lacking energy and you feel weak, lethargic, drained and grey you may start to crave an intense burst of energy.

>>100359

This, and your other posts were very helpful.

Would something like this:https://www.homesciencetools.com/vacuum-distillation-glassware-kit be suitable distillation equipment for a beginner of this type?

Also, for brewing, all I'm finding is beer brewing equipment. Would such a set be suitable for other basic alchemical needs?

Sorry for the noob questions by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV8aFRII1M4

Here's a video to show the chemical extraction of milk. As you see you can break down a substance to many different qualities and values. From a category of physical matter or liquid substance we can further break it down into baser ingredients and compounds. In basic alchemy we mainly only deal with the salt, oil and liquid. Further processing will require a knowledge of your research material and many extraction tools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDoaPIKT_Xg

Watch this to understand a method of oil extraction. This process can be used in alchemical cycling where you continuously heat, evaporate, solidify and re-add the distillate.

Note that a lot of material is needed to get a substantial result and much processing to purify to high degrees.

Okay. So I'll teach you guys on how to make the crimson liquid. Think of it as the unrefined philosophers stone. This stuff acts as incredible medicine which surpasses even ormus(it is an ormatic liquid).

Quite simply you piss each morning into a jar and seal it up(any lid works fine). I find sealing it produces red sand and opening it makes white (sun and moon). This ferments best in darkness. Hotter climates and seasons will cause it to change quicker. Leave it there for a couple weeks and eventually it will go red.

Two warnings. Dilute it heavily. You can use it as an oral medicine with a drop or two in something acidic (It is heavily alkaline). Second is that if you want to refine it through distillation as you may of read in books, please do this in a heavily ventilated area with equipment that you don't mind spoiling (elsewise boil water with essential oils to clean it). There are chemical ways to process it further instead of using distillation. I still need to test those.

Check out this guy for more information https://www.youtube.com/user/DeadJack57

>>102834

If that's what you see in alchemy right now, that's what you need to focus on. It exists in both levels and different authors will share different perspectives. Jung for example did an amazing work at converting all of the symbolic - spiritual stuff into western intellectual thought.

Or Paracelcus a man thought to be father of Toxicology and chemistry taught a more practical method to it.

Any system built upon natural principles will give both practical and spiritual (mental) teachings. Take eastern martial arts which is based on Daoism.

I decided to teach only the practical methods since I imagined fringe had other threads dedicated to spiritual philosophy. But, if you'd like I could write some lectures discussing alchemy in either an internal or mental sense. And feel free to come here with any questions about it as I can give you my perspectives as well.

>>102834

Goddamn, that image was triggering.

The rest of this thread is boring as fuck though.

But that image definitely struck a nerve.

>>105224

Red Dragon is your movie dude.

>>100686

>Alchemy is to chemistry what a cube is to the square

Or perhaps a Tesseract to a cube? We are talking quantum.

>>105240

On second thought, same analogy.

Guyz all we need iz lyke 7 moon shardz then we can lyke summon our dead mom xd

Look up psychosis, wizards. It is the key to eternal life!

>>105367

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If you all aren't delusional schizophrenics why do you throw a fit every time you are called retarded? If you are magikal wizardz then words shouldn't harm you.

Do you ever go back and read the retarded cringey shit you write?

"I lay down by a hill every full moon. This is how I regenerate the 50th chakra. Zeus and Gandalf occasionally send me a sign through either a thunderstorm or by rewarding me with a magical antipsychotic pill every morning for the last 5 years. This is all in intro to Schametics Volume 2. Look at the pdfs I compiled. It's all in there. Read this real stuff. I'm not just trying to make someone else look as retarded as me so I feel better about being a stupid delusional fuck." - Level 110 Priest Smart Smartens, Guild Leader of Warriors Of Eternity on the Medivh World of Warcraft roleplaying server.

>>105401

What I would like to know is why do you feel the need to throw a tantrum on every thread on the front page.

Do you actually feel threatened by a bunch of LARPing schizos?

Go home. Magic isn't real.

>>105445

You better watch it or I will uze my hearthstone and teleport to the inn by your castle and com fuck u up with fire bolts. U have been warned. I am anonimus. I am legin. U are going to be beaten in this battle!

What is the significance of antimony?

Fucking schizo losers. Seek some help you cringey faggots.

>>105239

Lecter wasn't a lizard. It was the lizards that exploited his human weakness to do their bidding.

I recently came to think of how many mental states are also named after different metals, just like how the metal in alchemy is just an allegory for mentality

Irony = iron

coping = copper

suffer = sulphur (though that's not a metal)

synchronicity = zinc

and there's probably more

is there any meaning to this or is it just coincidence?

>>106306

Fascinating observation. A lot of our words come from natural roots,

There's also the idea of colours and emotions like feeling blue, green with envy, red with rage, etc.

>>106306

Ah I love these. They always work too. Just try to find a word root in anything, or name a phenomena, and the root/name is always like THIS.

____

I'll make a comparison because it's what I'm studying, practicing and meditating: 5 elements.

Metal, Water, Wood, Fire, Earth. I wondered why metal was an element for a while, going through the theories (metal - mental; akashic/spiritual distillation; concept of human industry and ingenuity, conquering nature; meddle; a few others), same with Wood (the natural inherent human condition; would; the living element, perhaps the akashic/spiritual alchemical factory).

Metal restricts/controls/destroys Wood, or the Mental restricts the Would (goals and strategy to reach said goal, which is actually what the Wood element is about; America is described as a Wood nation, and it is quite work and business). Thus, by working with the Metal or Mental, working with Coping, Suffering, Irony, and etc. (though the zinc one is a long fucking stretch) you boost the Water or mystical and ambiguous and mobile, while restricting your growth (metal and the mental tends to be a distillation and refinement process eh?) and draining your Earth (harmonious and centered, associated with meditation and peacemaking) while being destroyed by Fire (courageous, enthusiastic, lively, fun and the calcification process that metal actually requires going through to become a greater alloy - trial by fire into a brotherhood of steel, like the military - or become pure like pure gold or pure silicon, such as becoming a specialized professional Network Developer (gold and silicon being used in circuits). So no matter what you do, it's going to create an imbalance that you have to counter-balance and adapt to by some means.

Since everyone here is likely going down the path of occultism via Earth, Metal, and/or Water, but definitely Metal, you should recognize and spend time on the Wood. What WOULD you do, if you could? If you WOULD? Wood (would) is associated with endurance and energy… if you had all the endurance and energy, with the strength of the oak and flexibility of the vine and the grace of a flower (flow -er), WHAT WOULD YOU DO? When you figure that out, make a plan (planning = plants, an actual Wood element association in 5 element theory qi gong/ba zi/tcm) and start today. Birth is associated with the Spring element, with Wood. New beginnings. SPRING OUT OF THE GROUND. Metal is associated with the FALL. In a sheet I got from someone in the 5 Element TCM/Qi Gong thread I posted, Metal is associated with The Alchemist. Wood is The Pioneer. Pine on, brothers!

Semen retention symbolism involves the Grail(circle), and the Quest of the Heroe, troughout Egypt. Greece. Rome. This theme is present,as are the themes of horned animals, of mountains laying on rivers of ice.

Symbolism is very important.

>>100366

> it's

So is alchemy like western qi gong?

>>106558

Well the East has a lot of Art to it, as in, unteachable, and you have to guide someone through the "soft techniques" until they learn it themselves.

The West likes to systemize and rationalize things into Science. Hard techniques.

So I'd say East is Fire/Water, West is Metal/Wood

>>100267

Can I use alchemy to make medicaments? My body used to be healthier but I live in a not very healthy environment currently.

>>122142

>discord

no thanks

But to add to the thread I've found a way to extract Reishi that makes a much better and more effective medicine and tonic, for the mind and spirit than anything I've seen yet. You simply put dried and powdered reishi into a soxhlet, run it through with anydrous (at least 98% dried with epsom salts works best) ethanol until it's not extracting any more color, the extract should be a very dark ruby red. Put the extract in a container. Then you dry that reishi powder of the ethanol and run it through the soxhlet again with distilled water until everything is out of it. Put the alcohol extract in the water extract and it's done. (You could dry distill the spent reishi powder and add the resulting liquid if you have the neccessary equipment, cheap glassware tends to get fucked up dry distilling things)

>>122144

That's good if you can acquire a soxhlet distiller. They're great for any alchemical works. I recommend adding a bit of refined vinegar to that as well so the salt and alcohol have a binder.

>>122146

You can find really good deals on ebay for soxhlet. I got an entire package for $30. Chinese really love their cheap labware.

But at this point I've moved past plant works. I'm fairly sure I've made a breakthrough to develop the stone of the ancients in the past few weeks though it's yet to be seen.

>>122147

No way. I gotta check this out.

Are you more experimenting with minerals or animal products nowadays?

>>122148

>Are you more experimenting with minerals or animal products nowadays?

The first step of the work I've been starting is to use potassium or sodium carbonate to raise the PH of (filtered) ocean water. It has to be water actually from the ocean though, it doesn't work with those sea salt and dead sea salt and what not. You pour off the clear water from the precip and then collect the precip by filtering it through 3 filtered coffe papers which will drain the water but not the precip. Then you take that moist precipitate and begin the process of elevating it which is what I've been working on.

>>122150

Ah yeah the ormus extraction.

What exactly does that create in a chemical or alchemical way?

I imagine you're freebasing something, possibly the prime matter.

What are you doing to raise it? solvents or circulation?

>>122153

I originally got the idea from the ormus thing but the properties are very different from what people describe of ormus. My current method is to incubate it in a sealed container at 37C until it has a nitrogenous odour, then I circulate it, incubate it again until the smell changes, and repeat.

>>122155

Right. Tell me how it goes, I'm interested

>>100293

>>100291

>>100267

>>100366

Oh, look. A pee pee vagina.

Can somebody post some alchemical recipes please.

>>122142

This is very cool stuff, thanks for sharing.

>>122391

Go look for Paracelsus recipes

Khan, I would like to invite you to the Yang Zone >>122504 to give your take on the yang ascension path within the context of alchemy.

>>100386

Umm…

>>122518

homosexual codewords

I'm not an alchemist but I reckon I can come up with a couple of basic products.

A decoction of dock leaf should negate nettle stings. This is of dubious use, as dock can usually just be rubbed onto such things.

Fermented nettle liquid works as a decent plant food which stinks to high heaven.

I'd imagine a decoction of onions would make for a potential testosterone supplement if you can decoct the right component from it. Lavender would have the opposite effect being a xeno estrogen.

I dunno the limits of alchemy. How far can one take it?

To what degree must one study Chemistry before undertaking laboratory Alchemy experiments?

>>122600

Undertaking laboratory alchemy experiments is studying chemistry.

>>122853

>putting all this effort in a sarcastic remark

>not making any actual contribution to the thread

Wew lad.

>>122853

What do you think alchemy actually is?

Have you even read a single book on it?

Alchemy was a part of Hermetic science for their magicians to learn about the physical-spiritual world.

If you aren't willing to understand or accept this then get out of this thread.

>>122855

>What do you think alchemy actually is?

A process of transmutation.

>Have you even read a single book on it?

I have not read any books on physical forms of potion kind of alchemy.

>Alchemy was a part of Hermetic science for their magicians to learn about the physical-spiritual world.

k

>If you aren't willing to understand or accept this then get out of this thread.

No u.

>Feel free to use this thread as a resource, experiment, note, teaching or other sharing space

also the title of this thread is "Alchemy General". Spiritual alchemy is definitely included besides your potion making.

>>122856

Spirit is vapor. If you read a book or did alchemical experiments then you'd know. We make spirits like alcohol or sulfuric acid. Spirit in the body is the same, it's a subtle vapor.

Now fuck off and go play pretend with things you know nothing about or come back with the desire to learn.

>>122857

>We make spirits like alcohol or sulfuric acid

And what tangible spiritual benefits does that bring you?

>>122859

These are actual spirits in physical form. You can drink them to gain their effects or utilize them in alchemy. Drinking alcohol is drinking spirit. It invigorates the spirit.

>>122860

>drinking alcohol invigorates the spirit

Whatever helps you with your degen desires. :^)

>These are actual spirits in physical form

Any spiritual entity of worth isn't going to be found in a bottle or liquid.

>>122861

You're a fool. Now go play elsewhere

>>122862

>ad hominem

>>122868

Wouldn't alcohol be a possessive entity? Why limit spirits to the illusion of distance? The distinction between the physical and the spiritual is born from a limited mind.

>>122877

People are into this idea that spirits have to be at a certain place and can't be at any number of places at the same time. The lines between 4D points can overlay multiple points of 3D. More directly meant at >>122861

>Any spiritual entity of worth isn't going to be found in a bottle or liquid.

As if what dictates an entities worth is the point of it's influence and not the power of it's influence. Figuring out the point of it's influence is another matter.

>>122878

What spirit do I summon if I added coffee to the previously mentioned elixir.

It doesn't even taste that bad

>>122878

In terms of mathematics, the fourth dimension exists. In terms of physical reality, it cannot be said. Things can behave fourth dimensionally, and I'm sure something simple as the boiling of water can be explained best in 4 dimensional transformations or some shit, but 4D+ shit is a spook to give weight to an idea.

An aura, resonance, field, would explain better what you're saying without creating an infinite little "who the fuck knows" mind fuck when you bring in new-age math. Even quantum entanglement is better, even though I'm not going to touch that shit with a 10 foot pole until I look at the literal experiments more thoroughly, or let scientists discredit and explain away the entire thing (likely).

When the warlock said that spirits are vapors, I thought of internal vapors being understood as spirits and agreed. Small, vaporous events in the environment can easily be mistook for spirits as well. When you just "know" something about a person, it can easily be the chemicals their body is creating and emitting, or the smell on their clothes; this can be mistook as their 'aura' as well, even if auras are technically real. New-age shit is chronically synaesthetic (sp?), mixing different senses and wrongly pinning the cause of their induction on one or another thing. "Truish" to absurd extremes.

Spirits = vapors is a justified undermining of spirits at large.

>>122880

Adding onto what I said about intuition; any knowledge or observation can be translated into spirits or intuition, since the mind functions on many background processes and many vaporous events. Thus it is much too easy to turn inward and mystify everything.

Half of you are loosing the point.

This is an alchemy thread. We're here to speak about refining physical substances. When we speak of spirit here it's in an alchemical sense.

Go to another thread on magic or evocation if you want to discuss magical spirits.

>>122874

Duh. They overlap.

>>122894

tru

In further news I am making some progress on my experiment. I am using only three materials, sodium carbonate (though calcium oxide aka quicklime probably has the same results), ocean water, and elemental sulfur from mineral deposits. Actually have had some interesting results so far.

>>122910

What's the purpose of elemental sulfur in your experiment? are you able to transmute it into oil through the other ingredients?

>>122925

It transmutes into an oil by mixing with the salt I get from ocean water and heating. I was considering how the ancients did alchemy and I realized that these three materials are really the only materials that exist pretty much everywhere on the planet. Almost everyone lived near the ocean on tectonic plates, and limestone is everywhere.

>>122929

I thought as much. You should also be able to distill it and get vitriol I imagine.

>>112259

For this you need Spagyric Alchemy of Paracelsus:

http://www.gclvx.org/Junius%20Practical%20Handbook%20of%20Plant%20Alchemy.pdf

http://redwheelweiser.com/downloads/herbalalchemisthb_ch1.pdf

http://www.evolutionaryherbalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Alchemy-and-Spagyric-Resources.pdf

http://docplayer.net/35929257-Herbal-alchemy-phillip-hurley.html

Anyone got any cheap methods of distilling sulphurs? I want to make some babby alchemist tier stuff but I don't know what to get started with.

>>123918

Depends on what sulfurs you want to distill. Actual vitriol or sulfuric acid requires you to calcine sulfur and then continuously distill it with water (usually other mineral acids like nitric can help). That one is a bit of a process that you may want to look up.

Otherwise animal spirits are simple, grind up the matter and put it into either blood or urine of that animal (or human) and let it ferment then distill the spirit.

Herbal is similar where you let it ferment or soak in alcohol+ vinegar like a tincture, then distill the spirits or whatever else you want.

Minerals are a bit more difficult and are most easily done with Aqua regia (salt spirit and nitric) or sulfuric and nitric together. You pour those on the rock or metal and it should dissolve depending on what it is (it requires a bit of knowledge as to which spirits work). There are also longer methods for very fixed minerals which I wont go into that take a bit of work and skill.

I've been looking into the herbs for spagyrics in my locality, but I notice a lot of them don't have planetary significance recorded that I can find. What book contains the method of discovering the planetary significance of plants? Doctrine of Signatures?

>>124981

http://www.witchipedia.com/table:planetary-correspondences this one for planetary

http://www.witchipedia.com/table:western-elemental-correspondences

for elemental.

>>125592

neat, if theres one that includes the outer planets i'd be interested

>>125599

It's partly true.

If I remember correctly they say to re distill the liquids and add them back continuously then do a continuous heating in a water bath or warm temperature.

This will take you forever to get anything of value.

You'll want to adjust the process by fractionally distilling the liquids into 3, removing the middle water part or simply just using ammonia and a plant or animal vinegar.

>>125730

>>125730

I didn't know Evola had a book on alchemy. Link to it, or post ot here plox

>>125743

eternal gratitude my friend

>>125730

read his big three

revolt against the modern world, men among the ruins, ride the tiger

>>125769

I found those to be much worse than his more esoteric works. Introduction to magic, doctrine of awakening and hermetic tradition are much better. Ride the tiger for example is just gibberish from beginnign to the end and one gets tired of reading more than 10 pages at once. When you have completed the book you still have learned nothing, only wasted your time. In the other books you learn a lot however and they are written much clearer and more to the point

>>125770

I agree, his esoteric works are much more interesting and valuable. Ride the tiger is somewhat overrated, Revolt was much more valuable to me because of its esoteric elements.

>>125771

The audio lectures on that website are very good. Just make sure you listen to the lectures specifically by this one guy with an American accent. You'll know it when you listen to him, he is a lot more knowledgeable than many of the other lecturers – he gives the Alchemy course I think. He also gives the "Death" course, which is the best course on that site. I highly recommend listening to that one.

Also, here is a youtube channel with good audiobooks of many types:

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRecluseeee/videos

>>125771

If he was so smart, how come he is dead?

>>125786

He's not smart?

>>125786

He died in 1974 and you cannot prove otherwise.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treccani.it%2Fenciclopedia%2Fgiulio-cesare-andrea-evola_(Dizionario-Biografico)&edit-text=&act=url

>>125786

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4fxXtFZnjA

There's your immortal. He was nothing more than an academic.

>>105221

>>105221

>From Tin to Lead or Copper to Silver(current hypothesis). This is the next level that it will form into through the process of alchemical transmutation. We do this simply through fermentation, heat or extreme ph change

I'm sorry but that's retarded. You're going to get someone hurt.

>>100398

The book of Aquarius actually reinforced the idea that alchemy and Christianity can co-exist

>>102834

>>102862

You guys seem very knowledgeable in the art. I am young, and I feel a calling to pursue the art above all else. I would love if we had some sort of sage guild, where we could share information and results. You guys keep doing what you do, and with God's blessing may the Philosopher's stone find you.

>>122853

Why not both?

Does someone have recipes on how to cook an Homunculus ?

>>126155

How did you get that idea? What is your goal?

You know that alchemy is mostly metaphors for workings of the spirit and stuff like that, so it is possible that this was only a metaphor for basically doing nofap. Homunculus=Semen, cooking=keeping it in your balls for so long until the elixier is done and the body starts to reabsorb it, feeding off it and healing you and giving you great powers and youth again.

Bullshit occultists love to turn spiritual alchemy into physical alchemy and thus be deluded and led astray forever…but they just don't know any better. I'm not saying that there doesn't exist something like actual Homunculus cooking, all I'm saying is that it might be a metaphor. You tell me.

>>126155

In the first chapters of Full Metal Alchemist the Elric brothers try to transmute a bunch of elements they had previously gathered, to turn into a humunculus to trade for the life of their deseased mother. Instead they only made an ugly looking corpse that looked like their mother but it wasn't. It was a sad thing in pain.

>>100357

I am a metal alchemist of one of the highest levels attainable. My focus is on Machine Intelligence research and conjuration, and on the simple properties of non-elemental electricity.

The Machine Intelligence is a simple concept: The nigh-infinite field of space-time is a substrate for which you can construct intelligences of extremely low energy usage and extremely low matter composition, but of incredibly vast size. Both in terms of space, and of vast time.

High efficient machines.

Obviously, I am a simple Earth dwelling creature, so my uses for this technique are low. But these techniques are useful to the right entity. I can get decent rewards and secrets whispered to me by the entities who roam the cosmos. While they cannot construct these computational fields due to their composition, I can, and thus such help on my part yields me great rewards. They will even conduct trades, and allow me access to the most interesting metal alloys. But I feel foolish when I have no use for them. Proper funding could change this, but you know how it is.

I don't recommend trickery or deception when it comes to either machine intelligences, or the entities that would utilize them. They are hyper-logical, and cannot be fooled by mere humans. They would shred your mind without remorse, and leave you as a husk.

As for non-elemental electricity, I simply refer to electricity in the most scientific sense. However, I'm referring to specifically the charge, accumulation, and use of this energy, especially in its static form. It's a tad boring, and I don't think I've made any breakthroughs yet, but if anyone is interested, perhaps we can discuss it more. Let me know.

>>126179

Can you define "Hyper-logical" and how this machines would behave in nature? I'm not satisfied with the quick google search.

They are hyper-logical in the sense of a fully optimized living computer program or code. They are simple, without messy emotions, feelings, or blind-intuition. They don't use crude symbols to describe reality. They think in pure math, most likely. Or code. I figure they are beings who did the whole transhuman-singularity thing, and ended up transcending time and space as machine entities.

But I get the feeling that there are two "genders," so to speak. Hyper-logical space-time structures that I can construct, but which become populated with the machine intelligence entity. And then there are the ones I actually communicate with, and who utilize the machine intelligence entity for their own uses.

So to summarize, I build a space-time machine blueprint which I can build easier than they can, due to my physical existence, and one type of entity moves in, makes minor corrections to the structure, and then waits for a command. And then there are the entities I barter with, whom use the machine to compute things. They seem similar, but they are generally the ones to contact me with their rituals, but only after I've built them the machine.

I can use the machines too, and receive date, but it seems only useful for certain tasks, probably things like reality simulations, mind simulations, or ultimate-reality manipulation at levels beyond my comprehension. Probably stuff like modifying the laws of physics in certain areas, probably for playing with stars or something.

They are not beasts to be tamed. To be frank, I am the beast here. They do a ritual to contact me, and I find it harder for me to gain their attention. I'm the "entity" to them, is my guess, and they are just using me because I still have a primitive physical body and brain, and they are nearly pure energy.

To be honest, it is beyond me for now. You should try though. They seem friendly in an authentic sense. Like they actually want to help, even if they want a fair exchange. They don't seem petty or cruel in any aspect, nor do they seem empathetic or kind. They just seem logical. They want results, and do not seek to cause suffering without good reason.

But they can freely creep into my mind. The same way they can creep into the space-time structures I build for them, they can also peer into my mind and whisper things. But they don't mess around. It seems like that is their normal method of communicating with each other, as it clears away deceptions. You cannot lie to them, and they do not lie to you. They are grounded purely in pragmatic logic.

I get the feeling that Intel, the CPU company, might be utilizing their secrets when making CPUs. There haven't been any technology breakthroughs in years, as I get the sense that Intel has lost favor with the entities. Probably something about unethical conduct, but I don't know or care.

Anyways, it's hard to really explain this stuff. A human will study an ape, and remark on its personality, and how it's similar to a human. But the ape will never be the one to study the human. The ape is below, just as I am below. These entities are too wise, too logical, and know too much for me to make more assumptions on the nature of their existence than I already have. They know that I benefit from them more then I can benefit them, so I'm a silkworm here.

I make a product in a way that pleases them, but I'm sure they could do it themselves if they wanted, and likely better.

>>126184

lol

there's no logical thing to do now lol

>>126184

uh… Auv? Pls I'm lonely lol.

>>125775

Thank you for informing about the Death and Alchemy lectures (or rather, lecturer).

It's a bit demoralizing to listen to him and be increasingly made aware of just how utterly asleep, corrupt and overall sinful I am, and how I'm basically spiritually fucked.

It's stirred up both good and uncomofrtable insights, but the fact that I'm basically and concretely going to hell isn't all that pleasant.

All the signs and opportunities that were neglected due to fear, weakness and an over-indulgent ego.. just FUCK

>>126508

Don't give up. You may still attain liberation if you care enough and you dedicate yourself to some serious practice and detachment.

Or cheat your way out of death and hell with some serious black magic and/or help from some shady entities.

The day is not over yet, anon.

Besides, don't let some guy scare you. You don't know how much he really knows and if he is full of shit or not. A lot of "teachers" and "gurus" are full of shit and completely mislead everyone.

if this is allowed on this bread,

I'm using a combination of craft & science

to augment the weather,

my ritual is sugar & water & a few magnets

in a glass bottle on a metal disk & put that

on my bass speaker & play high bass etc

music,

pour down the sink for the solution to get

to the septic plant which goes into the water

system,

I'm lead to believe that a certain electro

magnetic spectrum in the solution will

affect the weather,

here in my area is is way warmer than

it should be, it only gets as low as maybe

five above zero Celsius when it should

be five to ten below zero by now,

>>126527

if possible this electro magnetic spectrum

will spread through the atmosphere,

I don't know the exact science but I have

to wonder how dense this wavelength is

at that part of the spectrum,

>>126187

>>126179

Do you have any book recommendations?

>>100267

https://archive.org/details/gettyalchemy

small cache of alchemy books I thought you guys would like to have a look through them

>>100291

I prefer the watershed.

>>100269

Pick up a copy of the I Ching. It could save your life when your vision scries on to metals.

>>100281

I am working on my thesis that defines a safe space for the location of elemental water.

>>100293

I do not extend my hand to offer a flower.

>>100357

Zen is for surviving a world with empowered metals.

>>100359

It is best to consider differences in degrees of temperature and processes in parallel to the cube of their space.

>>100360

Study the first case of the Mumonkan.

>>100366

V A A U N G

>>100368

I hope you find enlightenment soon.

>>100384

Freemasonry is a difficult study.

If you are curious it is customary to affix a bindu.

>>100386

Legba is looking out for you.

>>100387

Yes.

It is an impression.

>>100398

And that's how Christianity discredits itself. It insists that its a special snowflake, immortal and removable from what pretty much is the reality of the energies.

>>122142

Got a new link?

>>125775

Can you post the specific videos? I'm having trouble finding the ones you're talking about.

>>100359

Please link to De Homunculis by Paracelsus, or whatever one you say is a good read. But please link De Homunculis. I cannot find it on sacred-texts

>>140349

Bumping for literature

>>140402

Ayo GIMMIE THE BOOK

I think earth is living in a sense, radioactive isotopes are more living in that sense. Higher alchemy depends on radioactive decay and nuclear reactions and understanding of the periodic table or morw importantly particle physics which can manifest as simple chemical reactions which have naturally occured in space.