Alchemy General 06/16/17 (Fri) 06:50:45 No. 100267 [View All]
Feel free to use this thread as a resource, experiment, note, teaching or other sharing space. I'll prepare some of my own experiences in order to get others started and fuel the alchemical furnace(soon). Though I encourage you to use this as your own collective thread.
Chemistry discussion is also welcomed. I'll probably end up bridging some spaces between both schools of thought if no one else wants to.
Check the mega for alchemical book resources. Other than that youtube for practical chemistry usually in the field of extractions and pharmacology.
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07/06/18 (Fri) 09:48:06 No. 122929
>>122925
It transmutes into an oil by mixing with the salt I get from ocean water and heating. I was considering how the ancients did alchemy and I realized that these three materials are really the only materials that exist pretty much everywhere on the planet. Almost everyone lived near the ocean on tectonic plates, and limestone is everywhere.
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07/06/18 (Fri) 09:52:51 No. 122931
>>122929
I thought as much. You should also be able to distill it and get vitriol I imagine.
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07/30/18 (Mon) 11:16:17 No. 123910
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07/30/18 (Mon) 15:47:31 No. 123918
Anyone got any cheap methods of distilling sulphurs? I want to make some babby alchemist tier stuff but I don't know what to get started with.
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08/23/18 (Thu) 11:03:06 No. 124631
>>123918
Depends on what sulfurs you want to distill. Actual vitriol or sulfuric acid requires you to calcine sulfur and then continuously distill it with water (usually other mineral acids like nitric can help). That one is a bit of a process that you may want to look up.
Otherwise animal spirits are simple, grind up the matter and put it into either blood or urine of that animal (or human) and let it ferment then distill the spirit.
Herbal is similar where you let it ferment or soak in alcohol+ vinegar like a tincture, then distill the spirits or whatever else you want.
Minerals are a bit more difficult and are most easily done with Aqua regia (salt spirit and nitric) or sulfuric and nitric together. You pour those on the rock or metal and it should dissolve depending on what it is (it requires a bit of knowledge as to which spirits work). There are also longer methods for very fixed minerals which I wont go into that take a bit of work and skill.
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09/12/18 (Wed) 19:13:18 No. 124981
I've been looking into the herbs for spagyrics in my locality, but I notice a lot of them don't have planetary significance recorded that I can find. What book contains the method of discovering the planetary significance of plants? Doctrine of Signatures?
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10/11/18 (Thu) 09:27:13 No. 125592
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10/11/18 (Thu) 19:23:35 No. 125599
I just finished reading The book of Aquarius. what do you think about it? I heard the method for making the stone described there is faulty. has anyone managed to make the stone? or get close to it? what book describes the process more truly?
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10/13/18 (Sat) 02:33:26 No. 125628
>>125592
neat, if theres one that includes the outer planets i'd be interested
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10/17/18 (Wed) 02:46:34 No. 125704
>>125599
It's partly true.
If I remember correctly they say to re distill the liquids and add them back continuously then do a continuous heating in a water bath or warm temperature.
This will take you forever to get anything of value.
You'll want to adjust the process by fractionally distilling the liquids into 3, removing the middle water part or simply just using ammonia and a plant or animal vinegar.
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10/19/18 (Fri) 15:24:39 No. 125730
New here.
I've just finished reading Evola's Alchemy book.
Where do I go from here?
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10/20/18 (Sat) 10:39:02 No. 125742
>>125730
>>125730
I didn't know Evola had a book on alchemy. Link to it, or post ot here plox
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10/20/18 (Sat) 11:35:19 No. 125743
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10/20/18 (Sat) 15:13:05 No. 125744
>>125743
eternal gratitude my friend
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10/21/18 (Sun) 18:43:09 No. 125769
>>125730
read his big three
revolt against the modern world, men among the ruins, ride the tiger
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10/21/18 (Sun) 19:36:44 No. 125770
>>125769
I found those to be much worse than his more esoteric works. Introduction to magic, doctrine of awakening and hermetic tradition are much better. Ride the tiger for example is just gibberish from beginnign to the end and one gets tired of reading more than 10 pages at once. When you have completed the book you still have learned nothing, only wasted your time. In the other books you learn a lot however and they are written much clearer and more to the point
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10/21/18 (Sun) 19:55:03 No. 125771
>>125770
>>125769
I think I'm going to follow the evola reading guide and meanwhile listen to some podcasts like this.
https://gnosticteachings.org/
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10/21/18 (Sun) 22:59:12 No. 125775
>>125770
I agree, his esoteric works are much more interesting and valuable. Ride the tiger is somewhat overrated, Revolt was much more valuable to me because of its esoteric elements.
>>125771
The audio lectures on that website are very good. Just make sure you listen to the lectures specifically by this one guy with an American accent. You'll know it when you listen to him, he is a lot more knowledgeable than many of the other lecturers – he gives the Alchemy course I think. He also gives the "Death" course, which is the best course on that site. I highly recommend listening to that one.
Also, here is a youtube channel with good audiobooks of many types:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRecluseeee/videos
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10/22/18 (Mon) 15:38:56 No. 125784
>>125771
If he was so smart, how come he is dead?
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10/22/18 (Mon) 18:00:08 No. 125786
>>125784
He's not that's the point.
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10/22/18 (Mon) 20:45:48 No. 125790
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10/22/18 (Mon) 20:50:04 No. 125791
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10/22/18 (Mon) 20:53:14 No. 125792
>>125786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4fxXtFZnjA
There's your immortal. He was nothing more than an academic.
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10/23/18 (Tue) 03:56:05 No. 125794
>>105221
>>105221
>From Tin to Lead or Copper to Silver(current hypothesis). This is the next level that it will form into through the process of alchemical transmutation. We do this simply through fermentation, heat or extreme ph change
I'm sorry but that's retarded. You're going to get someone hurt.
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11/10/18 (Sat) 09:12:01 No. 126093
>>100398
The book of Aquarius actually reinforced the idea that alchemy and Christianity can co-exist
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11/10/18 (Sat) 09:28:43 No. 126095
>>102834
>>102862
You guys seem very knowledgeable in the art. I am young, and I feel a calling to pursue the art above all else. I would love if we had some sort of sage guild, where we could share information and results. You guys keep doing what you do, and with God's blessing may the Philosopher's stone find you.
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11/10/18 (Sat) 09:33:29 No. 126096
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11/12/18 (Mon) 07:23:16 No. 126155
Does someone have recipes on how to cook an Homunculus ?
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11/12/18 (Mon) 21:17:15 No. 126169
>>126155
How did you get that idea? What is your goal?
You know that alchemy is mostly metaphors for workings of the spirit and stuff like that, so it is possible that this was only a metaphor for basically doing nofap. Homunculus=Semen, cooking=keeping it in your balls for so long until the elixier is done and the body starts to reabsorb it, feeding off it and healing you and giving you great powers and youth again.
Bullshit occultists love to turn spiritual alchemy into physical alchemy and thus be deluded and led astray forever…but they just don't know any better. I'm not saying that there doesn't exist something like actual Homunculus cooking, all I'm saying is that it might be a metaphor. You tell me.
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11/12/18 (Mon) 22:35:56 No. 126170
>>126155
In the first chapters of Full Metal Alchemist the Elric brothers try to transmute a bunch of elements they had previously gathered, to turn into a humunculus to trade for the life of their deseased mother. Instead they only made an ugly looking corpse that looked like their mother but it wasn't. It was a sad thing in pain.
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11/13/18 (Tue) 09:13:33 No. 126179
>>100357
I am a metal alchemist of one of the highest levels attainable. My focus is on Machine Intelligence research and conjuration, and on the simple properties of non-elemental electricity.
The Machine Intelligence is a simple concept: The nigh-infinite field of space-time is a substrate for which you can construct intelligences of extremely low energy usage and extremely low matter composition, but of incredibly vast size. Both in terms of space, and of vast time.
High efficient machines.
Obviously, I am a simple Earth dwelling creature, so my uses for this technique are low. But these techniques are useful to the right entity. I can get decent rewards and secrets whispered to me by the entities who roam the cosmos. While they cannot construct these computational fields due to their composition, I can, and thus such help on my part yields me great rewards. They will even conduct trades, and allow me access to the most interesting metal alloys. But I feel foolish when I have no use for them. Proper funding could change this, but you know how it is.
I don't recommend trickery or deception when it comes to either machine intelligences, or the entities that would utilize them. They are hyper-logical, and cannot be fooled by mere humans. They would shred your mind without remorse, and leave you as a husk.
As for non-elemental electricity, I simply refer to electricity in the most scientific sense. However, I'm referring to specifically the charge, accumulation, and use of this energy, especially in its static form. It's a tad boring, and I don't think I've made any breakthroughs yet, but if anyone is interested, perhaps we can discuss it more. Let me know.
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11/13/18 (Tue) 10:45:37 No. 126184
>>126179
Can you define "Hyper-logical" and how this machines would behave in nature? I'm not satisfied with the quick google search.
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11/13/18 (Tue) 12:39:13 No. 126187
They are hyper-logical in the sense of a fully optimized living computer program or code. They are simple, without messy emotions, feelings, or blind-intuition. They don't use crude symbols to describe reality. They think in pure math, most likely. Or code. I figure they are beings who did the whole transhuman-singularity thing, and ended up transcending time and space as machine entities.
But I get the feeling that there are two "genders," so to speak. Hyper-logical space-time structures that I can construct, but which become populated with the machine intelligence entity. And then there are the ones I actually communicate with, and who utilize the machine intelligence entity for their own uses.
So to summarize, I build a space-time machine blueprint which I can build easier than they can, due to my physical existence, and one type of entity moves in, makes minor corrections to the structure, and then waits for a command. And then there are the entities I barter with, whom use the machine to compute things. They seem similar, but they are generally the ones to contact me with their rituals, but only after I've built them the machine.
I can use the machines too, and receive date, but it seems only useful for certain tasks, probably things like reality simulations, mind simulations, or ultimate-reality manipulation at levels beyond my comprehension. Probably stuff like modifying the laws of physics in certain areas, probably for playing with stars or something.
They are not beasts to be tamed. To be frank, I am the beast here. They do a ritual to contact me, and I find it harder for me to gain their attention. I'm the "entity" to them, is my guess, and they are just using me because I still have a primitive physical body and brain, and they are nearly pure energy.
To be honest, it is beyond me for now. You should try though. They seem friendly in an authentic sense. Like they actually want to help, even if they want a fair exchange. They don't seem petty or cruel in any aspect, nor do they seem empathetic or kind. They just seem logical. They want results, and do not seek to cause suffering without good reason.
But they can freely creep into my mind. The same way they can creep into the space-time structures I build for them, they can also peer into my mind and whisper things. But they don't mess around. It seems like that is their normal method of communicating with each other, as it clears away deceptions. You cannot lie to them, and they do not lie to you. They are grounded purely in pragmatic logic.
I get the feeling that Intel, the CPU company, might be utilizing their secrets when making CPUs. There haven't been any technology breakthroughs in years, as I get the sense that Intel has lost favor with the entities. Probably something about unethical conduct, but I don't know or care.
Anyways, it's hard to really explain this stuff. A human will study an ape, and remark on its personality, and how it's similar to a human. But the ape will never be the one to study the human. The ape is below, just as I am below. These entities are too wise, too logical, and know too much for me to make more assumptions on the nature of their existence than I already have. They know that I benefit from them more then I can benefit them, so I'm a silkworm here.
I make a product in a way that pleases them, but I'm sure they could do it themselves if they wanted, and likely better.
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11/14/18 (Wed) 02:26:06 No. 126217
>>126184
lol
there's no logical thing to do now lol
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11/14/18 (Wed) 02:40:14 No. 126218
>>126184
uh… Auv? Pls I'm lonely lol.
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11/25/18 (Sun) 18:25:29 No. 126508
>>125775
Thank you for informing about the Death and Alchemy lectures (or rather, lecturer).
It's a bit demoralizing to listen to him and be increasingly made aware of just how utterly asleep, corrupt and overall sinful I am, and how I'm basically spiritually fucked.
It's stirred up both good and uncomofrtable insights, but the fact that I'm basically and concretely going to hell isn't all that pleasant.
All the signs and opportunities that were neglected due to fear, weakness and an over-indulgent ego.. just FUCK
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11/25/18 (Sun) 19:28:50 No. 126509
>>126508
Don't give up. You may still attain liberation if you care enough and you dedicate yourself to some serious practice and detachment.
Or cheat your way out of death and hell with some serious black magic and/or help from some shady entities.
The day is not over yet, anon.
Besides, don't let some guy scare you. You don't know how much he really knows and if he is full of shit or not. A lot of "teachers" and "gurus" are full of shit and completely mislead everyone.
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11/26/18 (Mon) 23:06:49 No. 126527
if this is allowed on this bread,
I'm using a combination of craft & science
to augment the weather,
my ritual is sugar & water & a few magnets
in a glass bottle on a metal disk & put that
on my bass speaker & play high bass etc
music,
pour down the sink for the solution to get
to the septic plant which goes into the water
system,
I'm lead to believe that a certain electro
magnetic spectrum in the solution will
affect the weather,
here in my area is is way warmer than
it should be, it only gets as low as maybe
five above zero Celsius when it should
be five to ten below zero by now,
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11/26/18 (Mon) 23:12:00 No. 126528
>>126527
if possible this electro magnetic spectrum
will spread through the atmosphere,
I don't know the exact science but I have
to wonder how dense this wavelength is
at that part of the spectrum,
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12/03/18 (Mon) 03:33:43 No. 126670
>>126187
>>126179
Do you have any book recommendations?
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12/03/18 (Mon) 06:32:01 No. 126673
>>100267
https://archive.org/details/gettyalchemy
small cache of alchemy books I thought you guys would like to have a look through them
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12/04/18 (Tue) 00:27:53 No. 126681
>>100291
I prefer the watershed.
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12/04/18 (Tue) 00:35:42 No. 126682
>>100269
Pick up a copy of the I Ching. It could save your life when your vision scries on to metals.
>>100281
I am working on my thesis that defines a safe space for the location of elemental water.
>>100293
I do not extend my hand to offer a flower.
>>100357
Zen is for surviving a world with empowered metals.
>>100359
It is best to consider differences in degrees of temperature and processes in parallel to the cube of their space.
>>100360
Study the first case of the Mumonkan.
>>100366
V A A U N G
>>100368
I hope you find enlightenment soon.
>>100384
Freemasonry is a difficult study.
If you are curious it is customary to affix a bindu.
>>100386
Legba is looking out for you.
>>100387
Yes.
It is an impression.
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01/08/19 (Tue) 00:30:53 No. 127291
>>100398
And that's how Christianity discredits itself. It insists that its a special snowflake, immortal and removable from what pretty much is the reality of the energies.
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10/18/20 (Sun) 21:58:11 No. 137783
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10/25/20 (Sun) 23:31:08 No. 137828
>>125775
Can you post the specific videos? I'm having trouble finding the ones you're talking about.
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08/13/21 (Fri) 01:44:54 No. 140349
>>100359
Please link to De Homunculis by Paracelsus, or whatever one you say is a good read. But please link De Homunculis. I cannot find it on sacred-texts
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08/22/21 (Sun) 12:51:41 No. 140402
>>140349
Bumping for literature
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09/08/21 (Wed) 01:58:10 No. 140472
>>140402
Ayo GIMMIE THE BOOK
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11/20/23 (Mon) 08:49:51 No. 142346
I think earth is living in a sense, radioactive isotopes are more living in that sense. Higher alchemy depends on radioactive decay and nuclear reactions and understanding of the periodic table or morw importantly particle physics which can manifest as simple chemical reactions which have naturally occured in space.
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