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>>136899

It's one of the big secrets of esotericism, the easist way to source it would be investigating tibetan buddhism. Vajrayana practitioners meditate of buddha-deities in order to realize their own buddha-deity nature. "Buddha" here means inner spiritual maturity, not a dead guy from 2500 years ago.

When the mind is completely still, our fundamental nature, which is luminous and aware, shines forth through the "veil" that obscures it. This veil is created by conditioned existence, which is to say habits we nurture which lead away from enlightenment. Those habitual obscurations form the dreamlike illusion we call the outer world. All esotericism is an attempt to explain this same thing. Some traditions are more open with their secrets than others.

What we call the universe is created and destroyed, entirely, trillions of times per second. What we call reality is a series of frozen still-frames, experienced sped up, exactly like individual cells in a roll of film observed passing so quickly in sequence that they appear to be one continuous event rather than individual bursts of creation and destruction. In this way you are fundamentally Indra, Shiva, Kali, Brahma and every other deity, simutaneously, right now, without realizing it. Those potentials are waiting for you to realize them through the practice of letting go of illusory mind, emotions, habitual patterns and attachments

Within every cell of film is an entire illusory universe, a reflection of a world that never truly existed yet seems life-like and meaningful.

Every flash of our illusory false-existence as humans is the same way.

Tibetan buddhism is the practice of realizing your own fundamental deity nature.

That appeals to a few, doesn't to others. But to perform vajrayana requires great bliss. So the first task is to do the practices until you can reach bliss. That takes sincere, determined effort. It's not for most people.

As you see illustrated here, as you "create illusory mind" by thinking or being emotional, you destroy your connection to the reality within you which is the source. As you meditate you gradually still the mind, and at that point all the fun mystical stuff may be experienced because thoughts/mind stop getting in the way. People don't experience it only because they remain fixated in thinking, which creates the physical universe.

Meditation gives one the discipline to be able to shut the mind off and back on, like a lightswitch. Most people's minds are stuck in the "on" setting permanently, and they are at least slightly neurotic as a result.

>>136905

>It's one of the big secrets of esotericism

Its actually all Logos. Simply everything being Logos. Buddha, Tao, God - all forms of Logos. Reality is a fabric that exists in order for new born souls to acquire a form. Religion is one way to do it, other way was philosophy (Socrates/Pythagoras style) and spiritual cultivation. Muses and Nymphs of greek society were guiding Daemons.

>But to perform vajrayana requires great bliss.

Even Kukai said that faith is given by the Buddha. Katha Upanishad 2.23 states Brahman elects. Fate/Daemonic guardian spirit (daimon) plays part in being's character ("ethos anthropos daimon" of Heraclitus).

Forms are needed in hierarchy of afterlife where the meaning of spirituality is revealed not in a way people of all religions expect, and most certainly not world wide ones, and vajrayana is one of those.

Because if fate here is sealed, it is sealed "up there" also.

>>136860

Celestial bodies account only to certain criteria of messages to early humanity to develop Logos, but they are only metaphorically associated with gods. Saturn is not Lucifer, "satan" is a jewish word for "enemy", that is a barrier from real spiritual progress to not look things up. Space up there exists to provide harmonies like notes on a music sheet, its purpose like the one of atoms.

>>136913

>I don't think there's enough ground to claim that all deities are internal if there really are no deities. I also find it much more likely that you have a connection to these deities, rather than them literally being you.

Its a leftover from brahmanic monism, turned into meditation practice of "lesser" deity. Has some significant similarity to Pharaohs and cult of Roman Emperors, but in reality its just self-wank in order to get worshiped, similar to Catholic cult of saints and other hero worship. When people die they can get a job of being a Daemon, but you have to be specially chosen for this and extraordinary spiritually uplifted, as in:

>We assume a new being in death: we become protectors of the living and the dead.

>>136916

>oral instructions from a qualified teacher

Gurus been abusing tantric rules for a while. Think of all the temple devadasi prostitutes in Shaktist indian temples, which are mostly sold out by their own parents for money. I understand Shakti metaphysics are appealing especially in how Evola and John Woodroffe describe them (mostly because they project their own non-eastern ideas because of personal Spirit), but think twice if sex and abuse ascend you anyhow.

Just so you know, random "number" generator, which generates not just numbers, that contains all forms of Logos in the whole universe, contains all ideas of God. But only one (Trinitarian God) created our own order, that you pretend is not real, hurt your hand and pretend it doesn't hurt. That original primordial water of chaos is not god. Because it lacks Personality that came out of it.

If God came out of chaos, human comes out of orderly world. We both meet at heavenly order where chaos and order meet up. For one to be a God it would take to be born of chaos.