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Order of Bovine Excrements

What's with the obsession of regularly making shitty question threads about Saturn/Satanism/Lucifer? There's tons of them in the catalogue.

>>137453

They use discord and encrypted apps. But you won't find anything special online. It's all shitposting central. ONA is organized by personal relations irl. You won't be initiated without meeting someone.

I highly recommend you to just test their methods, their chants, their pantheon, etc. Find out for yourself.

There is the italian Secuntra Nexion but then again they are discrete. If you really makes part of the kollective… Well, just start your own group/cell.

>>137673

>nekrophile

reminds me of that "national socialist necrophiliac" kid; i wonder what he's up to

this site used to be so fun…

>>137677

Which one was he?

>>137457

Pretty much this, mostly use telegram IIRC. Not sure why you'd want to join up with them though, it's basically just a bunch of goths larping as terrorists.

Anyone got a copy of NAOS?

>>138037

Who's the central authority in ONA? If you want the original print version, buy the original print version.

>>137481

Not the OP, but I will begin doing meditations on their Sinister Tarot, as this is the only thing I can do where I currently live in. Well, it seems that from this now on it will be basically learning from trying and error.

>>138122

Invest a year in that and if you feel you want to continue you should seek out a personal contact, you need a formal relation with someone for the advanced stuff. If you live near Chicago there's an active group there, but I would advice you to exercise extreme caution if you see any hints of actual terrorism.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-soldier-alleged-member-white-supremacist-group-accused/story?id=71392427

It may look like ironic shitposting and then someone turns out to have been serious all along.

>>138139

>It may look like ironic shitposting and then someone turns out to have been serious all along.

I already know the implications of following the 7fw, the philosophical ones, that is. I already come from a background relating to political extremism, so no worries.

Thanks for the advice nonetheless.

>>138147

Also, are all the rituals (for the noviciate) in NAOS, The Black Book and Hostia? Because, well, it seems rather simple and almost not 'esoteric', excluding the hermetic invocations, that is.

>>138159

You can do self initiation following the instructions openly available, the blood ritual and swimming in a lake version. If you want to move on from that and proceed further you need to work with someone in a nexion for continuous feedback. While there are no official memberships, joining or leaving, and you can do just fine on your own working with the dark gods, you still need that contact if you choose to work with the system in a dedicated fashion. But it's up to you of course. If you don't feel that you need to, don't do that.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7qvny/random-murder-of-muslim-man-linked-to-neo-nazi-death-cult-report

https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3e3ew/neo-nazi-memoir-describes-terror-groups-acid-soaked-ram-sacrifice

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/order-of-nine-angles-an-incubator-of-terrorism/

>>138166

Based

>>138255

Nazis are cool though.

>>138255

More like satanists in nazism.

O9A ask their menbers to take part in a radical group as form of experiencing a different worldview. Political groups are the most common choice, for some reason.

>>138257

If you want to join the black panthers as an insight role go ahead and try to convince them you're transblack. Probably easier to pretend to be a nazi if you're white though. :P

>>138271

Not a fan of niggers or trannies.

>>137664

where to find more info on dis?

>>138303

discord

An interesting thing for them (ie the "Inner O9A") to do, is to publish more methods of hermetic and ceremonial workings for loner niners and practisers that can't make itself to an Nexion based on local or other circumstances, instead of focusing more on their esoteric philosophy, which they been doing since years. For example, I remember coming into one O9A text which exemplifies a sigil working using the powers of the Dark Gods, which was similar to the Hermetic Pathways described in "NAOS", but I can't find the text anymore. I know many of this you can get to know via a Traditional Temple/Nexion, but sometimes there aren't any where you live or you're too "antisocial" (or rather schizoid) to ever want to get into one.

>>138701

They don't have an interest in it because they're very old school and not after spreading to the public like that.

IMO there's 2 sides to this: the dark gods on one side, and the magic system and organization on the other. You can work with one of those or both, but you can't seperate the magic system from the organization.

If you're not going to actually physically connect, don't bother with the system itself, it doesn't work as a standalone thing. The gods are always available and they can lead you to the same insights, but if you do this as a loner, the methods they use will not technically have anything to do with ONA as such. It would be your own "dark path" of some kind.

>>138710

Well, in my case the only way I can make it is actually from the loner niner aspect, as there aren't any physical nexions where I currently live.

>>138724

http://www.o9a.org/2021/01/corporatocracy/

You're going to have to use the internet then, with all what that means.

>>138738

Already doing that, heh, but thanks.

Bump.

>>138045

Good luck buying any of the original spiral bound manuscripts unless you have thousands to throw at occult books. The version on amazon, which was just taken down anyways, came out like 20 years later and I wouldn't be surprised if it was different. O9A revises their manuscripts a ton.

The closest thing to a central authority in this case is probably Chloe from White Star Acception. She runs o9a.org and handles the authorized books on amazon unless I'm mistaken. Had Myatt's blessing as the top nexion leader in the states in the 2000s before Tempel ov Blood started making waves and maybe still does.

In general it's a very decentralized network though. Niners themselves and O9A texts love to claim that it's completely decentralized but that's definitely not the case. There's an inner circle of guys like Myatt and Richard Moult, most of the nexion leaders are in communication with each other and there have even been big O9A conferences called sunedrions.

>>139327

Anon complained about the new revised PDF version posted in the thread not being the barely readable facsimile of an original scanned 26 years ago. This obessession with originality isn't going to get you a better connection with the dark gods. It's just niner gang mentality. If they see this post they're likely to get upset too, because of exactly this mentality.

>>138159

>it seems rather simple and almost not 'esoteric'

That's O9A for you. There's not much there besides edge, the mystery and Myatt's ego. The insight role/exeatic way stuff, the grade rituals and the little bit of practical hermetics there is is all cool but you can get it all elsewhere or separate it from its source.

The reason it seems non-esoteric is that Myatt didn't have a background in esotericism when he started it. His story about being initiated by a woman who was carrying on a 1000 year old pagan tradition in the Welsh marches is bullshit ofc. He was a high ranking Nazi in CIA linked groups before he had anything to do with the occult and is on record as saying he wanted to create an occult order to recruit occultists to NS. Basically there are two options with Myatt. Either he's a glownigger who's trying to manipulate edgelords into disrupting radical groups or he's a genuine Nazi who's trying to manipulate edgelords into furthering NS and it's just a coincidence that he's continually involved with groups, individuals and situations that glow brighter than the sun. He's a fedkike or he's a Nazi incompetently trying to imitate the tactics of fedkikes, those are your only two options.

Anyone who's being pulled in by this bullshit should go read Nietzsche, Spengler and Bardon instead because everything interesting or useful in O9A comes from them.

>>139406

Yep. Myatt is an MI6 officer. His daddy worked for the British Foreign Ministry, kind of like how Anders Breivik's daddy worked for the Norwegian Foreign Ministry. It's always the same pattern with these spooks.