Six Years 01/29/19 (Tue) 21:06:49 No. 127858 [Last50 Posts]
My conclusions:
1. Psychic abilities are real.
2. All psychic power is based on the fact all thoughts influence everything; other thoughts, your body, the world, etc.
3. Because of the very nature of every thought influence working itself upon a situation, psychic powers work best when used covertly or only in harmonious conditions with like-minded persons.
4. Different people, depending on their psychic makeup, can be useful or not in an operation.
5. The intensity of a thought makes it have a stronger effect. If your life or whatever you hold dear is on the line, if there is very much at stake, or you have cultivated the ability to will fervent and overwhelming desire it is easier and more natural for people to forget their limitations and use these powers.
6. Thoughtforms automate processes that otherwise would have to be bruteforced and can be used to build a psychic structure that becomes more reliable for higher level ops to be conducted.
7. You can insulate your mental structure by cutting off the "water element" but you will struggle to function psychically then. The water element is basically receptivity. Invoking "earth element" also stabilizes you making any likelihood of change slower. Used properly these elements can help you, in other situation they retard your growth.
8. It is possible to swing around extremely different mental dispositions and outlooks. Including extreme scepticism, whimsy, solid faith, intense self-doubting, etc. One day you can prove beyond all reasonable doubt the reality of these things, then another time it can feel like it never happened, even when you have solid and undeniable proof before you.
9. This can often happen by mental contact with persons whose mentality then infects you through the aforementioned water element. This can be because of an email exchange, a talk with a stranger or friend, having spent time posting in a thread, etc.
10. You have to learn to rest in the I AM, the self, and not be identified with body or mind. This will allow you to remain detached and to be able to shed off these mental afflictions. You will grow strong in spirit, so strong, that nothing will have a permanent hold over you and you will be absolutely free.
11. Egregores and "thought clouds" or concentrations of related mental influences can dominate a particular area in physicalspace or cyberspace or mentalspace. Simply being aware of it allows one to effectively control the masses on imageboards and such. Prolonged workings with these egregores can help to shut out enemy "wizards" who'd try to undermine the place or to dip into the energy of a place, gather it, and use it for ones own purposes.
12. Sigils can be unusually effective. Sigils can be anything. Graffiti, logos, combinations of letters, geometry, etc. I have drawn sigils on buildings and peoples vehicles and the effects, especially over a long period of time, were tremendous. If you want a place to burn down as by accident or to go through some other disaster for example, one can focus ones despair and other negativity into a sigil, draw it with paint or oil or in the dirt on the side of a vehicle, and let it be. No doubt you could also protect a place or bring good influences but the negative sort of energy has always been the more readily accessible for me.
13. Cleaning an area often and thoroughly is a great way to mix your soul into the surroundings.
14. The hardest thing in magick is trying to prove it to the masses in general. We can't even make everyone agree the Earth is a sphere, how can we prove anything at all to everyone? There are always doubters as well as people who just don't care are wilfully ignorant and have their interests elsewhere, and if you do want to prove yourself, you will have to pick out one person at a time to work very hard on, and never try to take on like 10 people who are all doubting you all at once unless you're a particularly bad ass wizard who has prepared through months being immersed only in the most faithful of books and intense meditation and has the backing of many other strong wizards and spirits who are subtlely helping empower you without anyone knowing just so you can pull off converting like 10 people all at once to the truth of "all is mind; the universe is mental".
15. If you're always immersed in the mental spheres of people whose thoughts are contrary to the variety needed for psychic phenomena to take place, you're going to live a very boring mundane life, imprisoned by your own doubts and that of others around you.
16. Psychic phenomena, although absolutely real and objectively verifiable between two or more persons, is pretty much doomed to be occulted forever; hidden in the shadows and the mysterious places. It can only take hold in little isolated pockets outside of the awareness of the mundane masses.
17. To really grow, you must choose to separate yourself from the mundane, and to keep silence. Any time you challenge someone, try to prove something, and thus attract the immediate doubts of others you will weaken. If you despite this weakening succeed, it will be entirely to their benefit, and not to yours. This is only worthy of doing if you find someone who is sincerely seeking and will walk this path with you, it's not worth it to do for people who will just be like "oh okay I see, so magick is real after all, wow" and then go on living their mundane life. Only initiate those who are worthy to receive it.
18. If you are like me, you won't listen, and you will try to prove magick is real for many years to people, and you will succeed with various persons, and you will see just how they profane the sacred science abusing it or forsaking it. Eventually you will get over this need to prove things and take better care instead to not attract injurious thought influence that you might grow in the silence.
To Know; To Will; To Dare; To Keep Silence.
These four pillars truly are the foundation upon which the initiate shall come to know all that is worthy of knowing.
"The lips of Wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding."
(The Kybalion)
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01/29/19 (Tue) 21:54:36 No. 127861
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01/29/19 (Tue) 22:28:27 No. 127866
Silence is one of the hardwst things for me. I want to scream to people to glories of Eris and tell them about the ancients amd our race… but there is little use to talking if people wont listen
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01/29/19 (Tue) 23:04:39 No. 127869
>>127861
Well pilled, matey,
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01/30/19 (Wed) 01:05:42 No. 127870
czech ur proton fagit
btw wat happened to mewch
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01/30/19 (Wed) 04:50:58 No. 127876
>>127858
>12. Sigils can be unusually effective
ever heard of Memphis rap sigils? are they real?
theres a huge occult connection in Memphis Rap from the 1990's, i learned this myself listening to the music before i discovered the sigils. but what i heard was that people would worship special 8 track players and songs would be cursed by the artists' victims
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01/30/19 (Wed) 16:35:13 No. 127880
Very good rundown. I would add something. Haven't you obsessed over the nature of the afterlife? After a certain point I have the feeling it's the only thing worth trying to figure out.
t. four years
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01/30/19 (Wed) 18:06:05 No. 127882
>>127880
Not OP but I have. I figured it is the only thing worthwile to obsess over and to study. I see existence in the physical as inherently pointless, apart from maybe the initial creation of us which has to be done through the physical. I have longed for the other side ever since and have tought about killing off my body so to seperate myself from it for good and leave this shithole behind. The most important things to do in the physical are the ones that prepare you for the afterlife and quite frankly I have a hard time taking a "wizard" seriously who doesn't care about the afterlife and doesn't prepare for it or deems the physical and wordly success and power more important.
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01/30/19 (Wed) 20:55:16 No. 127886
>14. …"all is mind; the universe is mental"
Is this really true? Because in The Arcane Teachings by non other than W. W. Atkinson he defies that on behalf of some actual hermetic scrolls.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 00:28:09 No. 127887
>>127876
Care to elaborate on this some? It sounds interesting. Maybe some songs? Or an article?
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01/31/19 (Thu) 05:01:36 No. 127892
>>127880
I do all the time but most of all I want to prove to the world it and the only way I think I can do that is by swapping bodies. It is very important to reveal to the world we're not tied down to our bodies and that is the best way I can think to do it. It should give a superior alternative for all the people who are unhappy with their race or gender or particular body who could then find someone of the desired body-type, gender, or race to swap with but for me such motivations don't come into it as my body is easily one of the top 1% of bodies one could incarnate with on this world even if it could use some significant improvements. I hate what anxiety about death does to people and want to just clear up the whole matter for the world so people can know answers to all the big questions and therefore use more of their time towards enjoying life and being productive rather than everyone having to tread the same long and seemingly hopeless path. I especially want to free people who are suffering in shitty bodies by letting them see a clear way out of their misery and in general erasing the death-phobia that I feel plagues the world and motivates society to keep alive people in miserable states.
>>127886
Please cite the specific passage where you think this happens in The Arcane Teachings.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 05:31:42 No. 127894
>>127892
Wouldn't it be better to use thoughtforms to change your body instead of swapping
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01/31/19 (Thu) 05:47:53 No. 127896
Okay know it all, if one believes they can fly, why can't they actually fly?
And I'm assuming this was you in the other thread.
>Something to live by when examining people and religions and communities. I always have myself turned towards the highest conception of God I can possibly think of and looking always to expand and deepen my understanding of the Most High.
And what would that be? Do you dare articulate what your highest understanding is? Or are you still teasing.
I debate myself wondering why I should even share what I have understood so far.
And it doesn't take years and years. Neoplatonism is where it's at. Can you even into quantum mechanics?
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 05:48:46 No. 127897
>>127892
> I want to prove to the world
That's probably where you fucked up honestly.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 05:52:58 No. 127899
>>127897
Well by prove to the world I really mean release a document and/or bundle of evidence on the darknet that any 120+ IQ anon will be able to use/view and rapidly get answers to the big questions.
What a bunch of normies that are perfectly happy to begin with think doesn't matter to me. It's those anxiety ridden anons on boards like this that I want to reveal the truth to.
>>127894
As great as that would be, I want to prove definitively, that we aren't tied to our body. This is very important philosophical ground to break. As soon as people know we are something separate from the body, they will know definitively that the death of the body, is not the end of them.
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 05:53:50 No. 127900
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01/31/19 (Thu) 05:55:16 No. 127901
>>127899
Yeah I understand but Im just curious about your thoughts on a method like that and the practicality of it.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 05:59:48 No. 127902
>>127896
>Okay know it all, if one believes they can fly, why can't they actually fly?
In theory: To levitate you would have to actually believe and form the thought correctly. You would have to imagine that you will objectively fly and you will have to actually believe that.
If you fuck up at all in forming the belief/thought correctly, you won't get the desired result.
Just merely thinking in your inner-monologue "I can fly" or formulating a vague belief you label as "I can fly" isn't going to do the job.
>And what would that be? Do you dare articulate what your highest understanding is? Or are you still teasing.
Go read The Kybalion for a good description of The Most High God and also study Holographic Universe Theory.
>I debate myself wondering why I should even share what I have understood so far.
It might yield clues for some of us.
>And it doesn't take years and years. Neoplatonism is where it's at. Can you even into quantum mechanics?
Superdeterminist master race reporting in.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:03:09 No. 127903
>>127901
What do you mean by "the practicality of it"?
I don't learn something like psychokinesis in order to move a pen a couple inches across a table when I could just grab it with my hand and place it there instead far easier.
I do it because of what it reveals to me about reality.
That said PK does have a practical use because that same power that moves the pen a few inches can be used to displace someone's internal organs a few inches and thus assassinate them or to restructure their cells or mend their bones and thus heal them.
Anyways the body-swapping thing would have the practical aspect of being able to take over a younger body from time to time, allowing one to stay in the world indefinitely, accumulating knowledge and powers over hundreds of years, all to the benefit of the human race as a whole.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT. The real value is the understanding and proof that one's consciousness isn't tied to their body but is a thing independent of it.
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 06:04:57 No. 127904
>>127902
>Go read
If you knew what you're talking about you wouldn't need to tell anyone to go read anything.. The most universal truth is that all is one. Many ways to express it, all separation is an illusion. In fact this illusion of separation is required of existence.
The most objective perspective requires no bias or ego. God got bored in perfection and pretended to not be god to live in limitation and actually have experiences, subjective as they may be.
>Superdeterminist master race reporting in.
Yes and what's the ultimate cause and what are the mechanics of phenomena that allows it to emerge from this ultimate cause that determines everything else?
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:05:59 No. 127905
>>127900
Proof of what? I've already read all that stuff before. Btw Montalk talks about Reality Uncertainty Principle:
http://montalk.net/notes/reality-uncertainty-principle
A practical demonstration of being able to move consciousness from one body to another will be a revolutionary discovery in the fields of philosophy, religion, and science.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:07:03 No. 127906
>>127904
I would write it all out but I'm trying to go to sleep.
Sigh.
I'll be back…
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 06:11:46 No. 127907
>>127905
Montalk is 101 buddy
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 06:12:06 No. 127908
>>127906
Yes I have a life as well. Only have time to shit post. Toodles
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:25:56 No. 127909
>All Is One
What is this supposed to even mean?
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:41:16 No. 127910
>>127903
What I mean is that, why would people that are unhappy with their bodies(besides aging) want to swap their entire bodies if they could change their current bodies with thoughtforms instead? As swapping whole bodies would have some consequences
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:44:22 No. 127911
>>127910
Some consequences like what?
We need to have a case like Lobsang Rampa but documented better that will prove to all 8chan anons beyond a reasonable doubt that such a thing is possible.
We also need to understand better the mechanics of what makes a particular body a good host for consciousness and whether non-organic bodies could ever be used.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:46:25 No. 127913
>>127911
The way I imagine body swapping would be to switch places with another consciousness thereby putting the other consciousness in a worse body and leaving all your loved ones.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:56:21 No. 127916
>>127909
It means all existence is an illusion being played out in the mind of God. Reality is just a dream, but a very very consistent one at that
One may disagree with the terms being used, they can dress up the truth whatever they like, but essentially it's this truth that is represented as some allegory for humanity to understand,
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01/31/19 (Thu) 06:58:31 No. 127917
>>127909
Another way is thinking of a video game. It's not real, just being drawn up by the graphics card.
Well the graphics card of reality is the demiurge, and the logic of unity (logos) is influenced by the wisdom of duality (nous)
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01/31/19 (Thu) 07:00:04 No. 127918
But the phenomena of the video game is an illusion. All the information for the entire universe of the video game is located in ONE PLACE.
From this one place, all else emerges.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 11:00:35 No. 127922
>>127892
From the first paragraph of 19 page to the end of a lesson (picrel).
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01/31/19 (Thu) 17:14:53 No. 127925
>>127913
>implying we have loved ones
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01/31/19 (Thu) 17:26:41 No. 127927
>>127922
Though deity would be subject to law the question I think then becomes does law have a personality? Though it be the law that we are under, is there a being or personality that embodies it?
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01/31/19 (Thu) 18:05:00 No. 127930
>>127927
You're asking me? I don't know, I'm a neophyte.
I forgot to draw the connection here >>127922 from what Atkinson writes to the principle of mentality (in case there's a problem in figuring that out): this principle says that all is mind, impying that there's something existing which this mind belongs to, the Creator, THE ALL. Meanwhile Atkinson directly denies that the Creator exists, therefore denying this principle.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 18:30:39 No. 127934
>>127930
He doesn't deny "The Creator existing". He denies him as absolute power. The law is absolute power.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 18:31:05 No. 127935
>>127930
Also pretty sure that somewhere later on he affirms panentheism over pantheism.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 18:33:29 No. 127936
This Cosmic Will is the One Life of the Cosmos, which many philosophies mistakenly claim to be the Absolute Itself. It is the Universal Being, but it is under The Law, and relative to It, and is not absolute. From this Cosmic Will, Logos, Demiurge, World‑Spirit, or Universal Life Principle, is manifested the Cosmos or Manifested Universe of life, shape and form. The Cosmos is alive in every part, and its real nature vests in the Cosmic Will, which is ever behind, under, and in, all manifestations of the universal activities, from lowest to highest. Here is the World Spirit, or Pantheistic One‑All—but it is under The Law!
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01/31/19 (Thu) 18:39:05 No. 127937
Reading pages 8 and 9 right now of The Arcane Teachings . My god do I ever need this right now. It's been awhile and I've been immersed in other stuff and forgetting the truth.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 18:50:08 No. 127938
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01/31/19 (Thu) 19:28:43 No. 127942
>>127882
>>127892
Don't you worry about getting it wrong? Unless you literally ascend in body and soul, there is no way back from the dead, not without paying with your memories.
>>127922
I honestly and wholeheartedly believe I'm well beyond what Atkinson ever achieved in terms of magic, and so are a lot of people who just practice. Nothing special. He was pretty armchair tbh, as the thing he says are easily proven inaccurate with just a bit of personal experience. Get over Atkinson. Move over to the Fourth Way guys or better yet, go directly to the sources. Humans have been documenting these things for a long time (as opposed to what Atkinson does, which is intellectual speculation).
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 19:30:23 No. 127943
>>127942
>>127922
Just to clarify: he was a philosopher, not a magician, and he shouldn't be looked up to as such. And as a philosopher he is outdated.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 19:44:57 No. 127944
>>127942
Never said I eventually plan to come back from the dead. I have the deep desire to exist/live on the other side forever. What if we are the dead here on earth, and the spirits in the astral are actually alive?
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01/31/19 (Thu) 20:19:32 No. 127948
>>127944
Yeah, but what if you can't exist on the other side forever? What if there's a second death?
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01/31/19 (Thu) 21:00:21 No. 127950
>>127948
If there is a second death and I cannot avoid it then so be it, what else can I say and do? If I can avoid it through enlightenment/ascension, farming loosh or whatever then I probably will.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 21:35:15 No. 127951
Do you plebs even know how to astral project?
Either you can do it or you can't
What's the goal of this discussion?
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:04:56 No. 127952
You can literally do whatever you want.
Incarnate into higher or lower densities, from higher or lower densities.
There are certain paths, you need to find the way to do it, but you can do anything.
Here is a top secret Montalk text
http://montalk.net/leo.txt
Remember, Montalk is 101. This should be common knowledge.
>I want to share some information with you that is not found on any book published or on the net in this form and purity (simplicity while keeping concentration) before.I cannot tell you the source of it now because it would take very long and would be extremely hard to explain it.However, be sure this knowledge is not from a source in the third, fourth or fifth density. Please read these with full attention, these are much more purified knowledge than it is offered by 'Cassiopaeans' at 71 percent rate. Let's call the source of this
knowledge 'past's Cassiopaeans who are now's 'Leoians'. These do not mismatch with MOST of the GENERAL content of what Cassiopaeans state, but it is clear that these are correcting them at some points and also completing them (also the Ra Material) to another extent.
>1- Densities from the first one to the fifth one, including the fifth one are all 'illusionary' and not even comparable with the sixth density.
>2- Densities from the first one to the fifth one are all different parts of the'same eternal Womb'.
>3- For a being to be able to 'really' born and to begin its 'real Life', it must reach to the sixth density; although 'learning' also continues at the sixth density- and forever.
4- We were all STS beings in the 4th density before (in the last cycle before this one). We have come 'back' to the third density in order to take all the way in the third density to develop in STO mode.
>Lizards did not say us 'Why don't you come here and taste what we do?' It is only a symbolization done by Cassiopaeans; they intentionally or unintentionally give this information by changing it/the information reaches L changed.
5- SO THE CYCLE OF 'US' IN THE ETERNAL WOMB UP TO NOW IS: 'First born' in the 1st density, Then to the 2nd, Then to the third (STS), Then to the fourth (STS), Then to the third (STO) which we are 'at the moment'. Again, as it had been at all of the 'past' steps and will be in the 'future ones', some percent of us will proceed to 4th STO while others will continue.
6- Lizards at the fourth density 'at the moment' are the ones who have not been mature enough to be able to come to the third density and begin learning STO. Therefore, STS beings in the fourth density 'at the moment' that we call Lizards are our little brother/sisters, we had been together with some of them while we had been in 4th STS, and at the next cycle again some of them by their free will, as we have done before coming to 3rd as STO- the ones who are mature enough to cope with it- will come back to the third density in order to develop in STO mode.
>7- As many of you know, free will exists forever, and every single being in theEternal Womb(from the 1st to the 5th Density) is 100 % free as long as they 'want' to(in fact have to) stay and develop there. However, being STS is only due to underdevelopment and there is no STS outside Eternal Womb(s).
8- Once a being comes to the 6th Density and makes its spiritual merge and become part of a group consciousness, it begins to 'look after and care for the development' of its specific baby souls in the eternal Womb (1st-5th densities). One way they perform this is incarnating into the 3rd density. So what some baby souls at the third density call 'their Higher Selves' are the group consciousness beings that are looking after and caring them.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:05:16 No. 127953
>It can be said 'They are we in the future' but only to represent the meaning that 'we, in the future, will be where they are at now'. When we reach to the 6th density, what we will be will not be 'them', only that stage will be where we will be. We will be specific as every group sixth density being by specific and unique 'memories and lives' although we will be all STO we will be unique.
>When we reach to the 6th density, 'they'(6th density beings 'at the moment') will be in a higher density and 'they' will begin learning to be- let's call system operators- of this Eternal Womb.There are 'countless' eternal Wombs in the Existence. Countless colors, worlds, entities. Those seven notes what Ouspensky refer to only and only belong to the Eternal Womb that we are 'in' 'at the moment'. A group consciousness after passing out of the seventh density will create and experience another unique Eternal Womb, Universe with different densities and unique in creation. And this will continue forever… That is how what you experience now, you did, and you will is also 'being experienced' by our Creator, WHO IS ALSO BEING EXPERIENCED BY IMMANENT AND TRANSCENDANT INFINITE ONE BEING.
==9- Although baby souls at the stage 4th-STS (such as Lizards) have free will to do what ever they want to do with us, they serve us to develop while they are also developing, and we must not forget that they are our little brother/sisters. Any anger or disgust to them only and only is negatively correlated with our development level. We are a bit 'bigger' brother/sisters of them, and while they do us many tricks and games, by this way both of us mature and develop. We must have the patience and consciousness of a bigger
brother/sister whose little brother/sister is misbehaving and playing. Technology of them is better but this is only one of the rules in this Eternal Womb. We are more 'enlightened' than they are as they are more 'enlightened' than 2nd density STS's.==
We were as enlightened as they are 'at the moment' when we were in 4th STS. All of the ones who are STO IN THE 3RD DENSITY NOW HAD ALL BEEN ONCE 4TH STS, AND ALL OF THE ONES THAT ARE STS IN THE 3RD DENSITY NOW WILL ALL BE 4TH DENSITY STS. IT IS A STAGE THAT CANNOT BE SKIPPED. THERE IS NOT ANY SINGLE BEING WHO CAN DIRECTLY BE 4TH STO BEFORE BECOMING 3RD DENSITY STS, THEN 4TH DENSITY STS, AND THEN 3RD DENSITY STO.
>This knowledge will increase our love to enormous levels for all entities including Lizards who are using their robot-puppets grays and seem to be 'harming' us. Remember being in the fourth density has two stages. First, you go there like for an undergraduate study as a STS being. Then you go to 3rd density again for learning to be STO like a graduate study. Then you go back to 4th density as a STO as a doctorate student. So 4th density has also many difficulties and hard to learn lessons when 3rd STOs graduate. Because by this time, they will face semi-directly 4th level STSs and semi-directly teach them during their interactions and 'struggle'. Giant and complex lessons are waiting in the 4th density. But this does not mean that it will not be fun and much more beautiful. But do not forget that it will be 'harder' 'there' in the fourth density. So educate yourselves as hard as you can before the Ascension. Because beyond some level, many of the STO 3rd entities will graduate, but their development in the 4th density will also depend on how they could develop themselves much more than minimum limit of development required. 5th Density is only and only a bus stop, only a hospital and holiday place nothing more and be sure that you won't wish to stay there 'so long' when you begin to know what
complex(will be interpreted as really hard there!) lessons but also beautiful experiences are waiting for you. 5th density is never ever a school, what you learn there is only a temporary cure, so you do not learn 'there', so what you have temporarily in the fifth density can never be classified as 'knowledge' because it is only a temporary presentation and revelation. It is not 'added' to 'you'.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:05:25 No. 127954
>…Now here is the logic you want.
>It does not say AT EACH HARVEST all of the entities are STS in 3D, it says all of the entities who are STS will become STS 4D.
>At the first time of Creation, all of the entities in 3D HAD BEEN STS. Then they ALL have not been graduated to 4D STS, SOME GRADUATED AND SOME STAYED AS ONLY 3D STS, AND WHILE THIS IS HAPPENING THOSE BEINGS WHO HAVE BEEN GRADUATED TO 4D STS CONTINUED THEIR EXPERIENCE, TIME PASSED, AND SOME OF THEM GAINED RIGHT TO GRADUATE TO THE 3RD DENSITY AS STO.
>As it says there with big letters, at each time only a percent. So always there will be a mix of STS and STO beings in 3D or 4D. It says ALL of the entities will become and PASS, sooner or later, STS 4D. This is not a slight difference, this is extremely important if I can express what it means.
>You think that all 4D STS beings are MONSTERS, EXTREMELY HARMFUL. IT IS ONLY THE PEAK POINT of 4d sts beings. THINK ABOUT HITLER. HE IS A STS. AND THERE ARE MANY
OTHER STSs here in 3D. Are all of them Hitlers? No. You think that only those who are close to Hitler are having right to graduate to 4D. This is a Ra Material fallacy. NO, ONLY SOME OF THEM ARE SO. THERE ARE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF
STSs AND AFTER A CERTAIN CHANGE IN THEIR PROPORTION THEY ARE COUNTED AS 3D STO GRAUDATES NOT 4D STO GRADUATES!
>ONLY 4D STOs are always always positive. That is why it is being allowed there to live them together. When 4D STS beings REACH THEIR PEAKS, IT IS 4D STOs WHO ARE NOT ALLOWONG THEM TO COMPLETELY MAKE A DISASTER.
>THE OTHER PERCENT OF THEM ARE ON THE DEPRESSION SLOPE OF THEIR STS, WHICH IS MAKING THEM SOON OR LATE HAVING RIGHT TO GRADUATE TO 3D STS. TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT. THIS IS LOGICAL AND ALSO IT FITS INTO EVERY UNIVERSAL PRINCIPLE.
>You think that a being is 4D STS or 4D STO ARE COMPLETELY DIVIDED BY A STEEL WALL IN THE 4D. NO. AS BELOW SO ABOVE. IN 4D ALSO STO AND STS BEINGS ARE NOT SEPERATEDLY LIVING. AND EACH 4D STS ARE NOT LIVING THEIR PEAKS- EXTREMELY HARMFUL MONSTERS…ALL 4D STSs are NOT LIZARDS! LIZARDS ARE ALSO A STAGE ON 4D STS MODE, SAY IT THE PEAK. SOON OR LATE THEY GET INTO DEPRESSION SIDE, CHANGE THEIR PERCENTAGES, GET OFF THEIR LIZARD BODIES AND CONTINUE WITH OTHER MODERATE 4D STS BODIES, AND WHEN TIME COMES THEY GET RIGHT TO GRADUATE INTO 3D STO.
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 22:06:19 No. 127955
And this was some woke kid sending an E-mail to Montalk. Al least this guy knows how to be succinct.
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 22:07:27 No. 127956
Err.. Sorry about the epileptic formatting…
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:16:59 No. 127959
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. http://montalk.net/metaphys/267/sto-sts-and-densities
That's montalks long boring version of the info that he got in this E-mail
By the way folks, the first density is the zereoth. The 7th density is technically the 6th density. 6+0=7 in metaphysics.
Also the lowest and highest density is the same. All of existence into a single point, or the smallest point possible. It's a singularity either way.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:30:14 No. 127962
>>127952
>>127953
>>127954
never liked Montalk. New-age brainlet roleplay like this makes me wanna vomit. Please someone tell me that not everyone here goes along with this crap
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:30:32 No. 127963
>>127962
Why does it make you want to vomit
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:31:09 No. 127964
Anyways it makes me want to vomit too. But I owe some of my understanding to him. He sure is wordy though. Great for autists, and I used to be autistic.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:31:29 No. 127965
And that alien shit is a red herring
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:34:06 No. 127966
Sorry I'm spmming and shitposting. Thinking about this gets me too excited. Not healthy when I have things to do.
>>127962
The thing is, Montalk derives his own understanding from Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, Hermeticism, Ra teachings Cassiopeia channelings, etc etc etc etc.
The gnosis series is a great breakdown (or rather extrapolation…) for an esoteric perspective of Abrahamic theology.
You can honestly skip all this shit and learn Buddhism though, IMO
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:35:35 No. 127967
Reality is the duality of repetition and novelty, samsara and nirvana
Absolute samsara is infinite reincarnation, and absolute nirvana is the end game unification
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 22:36:46 No. 127968
I have said too much. I must go now
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02/01/19 (Fri) 01:13:24 No. 127978
>>127968
>I have said too much. I must go now
Me too!
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02/01/19 (Fri) 05:15:23 No. 127988
Rolled 9, 6, 5 + 1 = 21 (3d9)
>>127858
Smiley, what a journey. 2019 had one month pass and I've already met wise elders and heard stories of sea monsters. One whole tremendous OP extraordinaire with a missing cherry, the true god of yourself. Phosphorus glows at 100 F, cells emit lights, the sun radiates energy, we are rays of lights in time space. Best of all, we're healing the karma of our ignorance. Deprogramming everywhere. We all have a part to play.
The secret is public, healing is always, everyone has fingers crossed for the human breakthrough. Imagine a mantra so powerful it could make you understand all the problems in the world. Imagine a cheat code that when entered, unlocks gateways to the beyond.
Knowledge is the true value. Information is key.
Today you know the 3rd Dimension, 4th dimension, 5th dimension. Tomorrow you will know the rest. The keys to the stars at your fingertips.
3 dice, 9 sides. Numerology n+n+n, if it's a 2 digit number, nn & n+n = nn & N. I charge the intention of this dice roll to be the number for Smileys next challenge on his journey.
"Do you believe me now, Trinity?"
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02/01/19 (Fri) 05:19:41 No. 127989
>>127988
Sorry for the +1 modifier.
20, 2
Cooperation, Sensing, Peace and Warmth.
Surpass duality. Realize ternary. Two pillars.
Post: 1+2+7+9+8+8 = 3+5 = 8
To infinity and beyond brother.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 05:26:29 No. 127990
Why would body swapping work if free will exists
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:10:51 No. 127993
>>127990
I don't know man. It's FOOLISH.
But from a purely autistically logical view, it seems possible.
Gotta look at the even bigger picture.
How did you incarnate into this realm?
You can swap and do whatever the fuck you want in a shared dream or whatever, but directly controlling another physical body?
That's not how this shit works, sorry.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:13:42 No. 127994
Although you can make a tulpa to be a helper for someone, and have subtle access to all the information of that servitor/egregore.
You would need to be REALLY close with a person to be able to do this, perhaps a loved one.
For all intents and practical purposes, you can arguably say that body swapping is possible, bot not in the literal direct sense. That's ridiculous in physicality.
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SAGE! 02/01/19 (Fri) 06:14:28 No. 127995
ALTHOUGH if you get really good at astral projection…
You can literally do anything any demon is capable of doing.
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SAGE! 02/01/19 (Fri) 06:15:36 No. 127996
Uncle chuckie knows, but I never bothered to read into it
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:39:16 No. 127998
>>127952
Mmmh… Literally yesterday I got a sudden gnosis and I realized we don’t really become our higher self, but we become LIKE our higher self, in care of another lower self. Very interesting that you would post this text which I didn’t know. My gnosis yesterday and what this person L said are the only two times I’ve come across that concept which didn’t make sense until now. Also, the way it fits into my paradigm has different implications and it takes a different form from the highly anthropomorphic way Montalk and co. interpret their gnosis.
Also
>hitler was a sts monster
lol you kight disagree with him but how blind do you need to be to not see the monstrous sacrifice he made for his people? Very flawed gnosis (like everything Montalk) but that tidbit about the higher self is very valuable to me.
In broad terms, I’ll try to explain. You need to be familiar with the gnostic structure of being in pic related. In my case I do not believe the spirit is trapped by the demiurge, but that everything is part of an evolutionary process, and by the cycling of reincarnation, the spirit is developing and refining the soul in increments until it has accumulated enough useful experience to reach a critical mass and become spirit itself.
I struggled to see how the soul could transcend and become the spirit while being both at the same time, since the spirit is timeless but the soul is not, and is currently embeded in a time where it hasn’t transcended yet. But it turns out one’s spirit may not be “us”, but that at some point the soul evolves into an immortal spirit that will engender a soul of its own. Expressed in fluffy anthropomorphic new age terms this is what the document you linked talked about. The rest is of little value, but if you squint and scrape away all the STS vs STO nonense and the grade school density numbering, you can actually begin to see the real shape of it.
There’s a lot of missing gnosis you need to fully make sense of this, but I don’t have the heart to lay it all out here in a way that can be understood. Some of it needs to be experienced.
What’s funny is I was withheld this breakthrough until I figured it out on my own, somehow, but between yesterday and now it has been given to me. Why, what have I done or changed in order to be able to take a step is something that always eludes me.
Anyway, thanks for posting that.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:46:41 No. 127999
>>127990
Because free will is greatly misunderstood. Basically, it doesn’t exist (queue terrified new agers autistic screeching). Your free will is your karma, and your karma is your free will. And sometimes it is to be consumed and destroyed (as you consider yourself “you”, at least).
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:30:17 No. 128005
>>127858
O = True
/// = Mostly True
// = Kinda
/ = Mostly False
X = False
1. //
2. /
3. ///
4. O
5. O
6. O
7. O
8. O
9. O
10. //
11. O
12. //
13. //
14. X
15. //
16. X
17. X
18. X
I have taken into account the grey area between the meaning of psychic and the meaning of psychological when judging. I vehemently disagree with these notions no one will believe, as all that's been described here is some persuasion, memes, advanced imaginary friends (tulpamancy), and some social advice, all of which, apart from tulpamancy, is acknowledged in a scholastic setting. In regards to the mention of water and earth, for those confused just replace water with influence and earth with stubbornness it's one of those "I wanna feel important by using symbolic language" things. People should quit acting like there's one accurate definition of magic as all it is is a general collection of interesting areas of study with an emphasis on its pragmatic application via imagination and influence; much like politics but with more creative bullshit. When you cut out the shitty information and unnecessary symbolism magic is more of a category of communication-oriented information, like something you'd find in an Arts Humanities and Social Sciences college, rather than something impossible or elite in nature.
~Epyc Wynn
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:36:58 No. 128007
>>127999
Oh you were great until you started using gibberish terms. We speak english here, and you can respect tradition all you want but knowing foreign terms should not be a prerequisite.
I know what you're talking about and find that to not be a sufficient explanation to say the least.
What's really happening is that we have complete and utter free will with our actual nonphysical form.
But the physical realm is such a fun time (seemed like a good idea at the time…) that everyone here actually consented to incarnte into this realm.
They consented to forget. They consented to pretend to not know, similar to what God Consciousness does, to allow existence to happen.
We all gambled that we would somehow come back to the realization of our life purpose when we incarnated here…
You gave up free will when you consented to all the limitations of physicality
In fact this is the crux of the issue here.
>>127858
You can't just say that everything is mental. Sure it is, but that doesn't mean anything.
It's still physical, and that is because we also agreed to another condition when we incarnated. We can't break the rules of physicality.
That would defeat the purpose of this physical existence. You have access to developer mode every night. Try your God mode there, not here. It literally feels just as real, so what is the use of fucking around here? The gratification of abusing another entity? They are all a part of you just as your dreamscape is a part of you.
But good luck sucking demirgic dick to get what you want. It's silly.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:37:52 No. 128008
>>128005
> "I wanna feel important by using symbolic language"
kek
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:41:42 No. 128010
>>128008
Your kek fires my waters and enlightens my crown chakra.
~Epyc Wynn
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02/01/19 (Fri) 08:06:27 No. 128011
>>hitler was a sts monster
oh fuck I didn't even notice that. He did have good intentions and Nat Soc is great, but I still wonder about a greater conspiracy; still can't be sure about what happened.
Also this STS and STO shit might be a false dichotomy, but at the same time there is a lot of coherence here. I mean being trapped in the false dichtomy leads to STS behaviour, but with some possibly flawed logic you can say being selfish about your race… Again I don't know what really happened (nor do I really care know). I've heard so many alternate narratives for history, it's just hilarious. Some say Hitler was working for the Jews and Jews are Martians that invaded Atlantis and Jesus is the son of Cleopatra. Fuck history man, I just don't know.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 08:26:10 No. 128012
>>127998
>But it turns out one’s spirit may not be “us”, but that at some point the soul evolves into an immortal spirit that will engender a soul of its own.
Perfect! Now an explanation of mechanics behind this phenomena is needed. Oh man I wanna write an essay now, on the physical circuit of the brain correlating to a nonphysical informational circuit of the mind that becomes… way more important after you die. Or something. But that begs the question of what nonphysical information is there before one incarnated here, and how access to that information changes as one incarnates elsewhere. This would require a second essay.
>There’s a lot of missing gnosis you need to fully make sense of this, but I don’t have the heart to lay it all out here in a way that can be understood. Some of it needs to be experienced.
I haven't given up on the notion that everything can be logically explained, but it's a full time job since there is no coherent system today. It needs to be made.
>What’s funny is I was withheld this breakthrough until I figured it out on my own, somehow, but between yesterday and now it has been given to me. Why, what have I done or changed in order to be able to take a step is something that always eludes me.
This is why I hesitate. Even if you can logically explain everything, being spoon fed all the answers to life robs one of the experience of figuring it out themselves. This may be a fallacious line of thought however…. In that second essay I'd talk about how limitation is actually a benefit. Before incarnating we had knowledge and we lost that knowledge. We chose to forget so we could have the experience of learning!
Either way whatever is meant to be is meant to be. And for whatever reason.. Oh that makes me want to write a third essay. Everything is predetermined but time doesn't exist. Predetermined events are basically contingency plans.
For whatever reason, perhaps a contingency event occurred for you or something who knows. Regardless, this is an instance of synchronicity.
These synchronous events, is further evidence of a collective consciousness. There's many layers to it, and something special is happening to Humanity
>>128010
You must have a lot of fun with crafting those images. And if you want you can factor in the witnessing of your creations by humans as some of the variables in this layer
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02/01/19 (Fri) 22:55:50 No. 128061
>>127887
here's a list i found a while back
this is also one that i found mentioned somewhere, i actually really like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5sPv65HV08&t=783s
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02/02/19 (Sat) 04:20:30 No. 128078
>>127942
>as the thing he says are easily proven inaccurate with just a bit of personal experience
Like what?
>>127943
Who supersedes him then?
>>127948
Second death is the consequence of desires burning out. Life here with all its suffering and tension produces a surplus of desire. The key to immortality is to desire in such a way as for one's desire to never burn out.
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02/03/19 (Sun) 19:08:53 No. 128118
>>128078
>Second death is the consequence of desires burning out. Life here with all its suffering and tension produces a surplus of desire. The key to immortality is to desire in such a way as for one's desire to never burn out.
Energy can be received through connection with the source, or through parasitical action.
Those that cut themselves off from the source, can only sustain themselves through consumption.
That is why there are those entities in the realms that seem to only exist to take your attention.
The monsters in nightmares whose only weapon is fear to attract your attention for their energy and sustenance.
There is no true harm, only fear.
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02/16/19 (Sat) 09:37:34 No. 128570
Six unto seven years as of now for myself. I can thoroughly state that one of the most intuitive fundamentals upon my own teachings is well platformed and executed STO workings.
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02/16/19 (Sat) 15:17:55 No. 128574
OP who art thou?
From whence come ye?
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02/16/19 (Sat) 15:24:09 No. 128576
>>127876
nigger voodoo is very real and rampant in amerika
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02/16/19 (Sat) 21:47:53 No. 128582
>>128005
With no retort I am forced to assume /fringe/ agrees with analysis of OP, without me even having to argue any points.
~[redacted]
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02/16/19 (Sat) 22:08:10 No. 128583
>>128582
Your posting style breaks rules #5 and #7.
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02/17/19 (Sun) 00:50:32 No. 128585
>>128583
Kybalion rules trump Fringe rules. Only real fringefries understand.
~E p y c [redacted] W y n n
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02/17/19 (Sun) 01:49:49 No. 128586
>>128583
Where did you get his portrait!?
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02/17/19 (Sun) 03:57:57 No. 128588
>>127962
Me neither. I don't even know why he's so shilled around here. He's not even a magician, he's just your average conspiracy theorist with new age tier ideas about morality. I also get a generally bad feeling about him so I take everything he says with a grain of salt.
If ayy lmao conspiracy theories are your thing then I guess but I think that's all a waste of time when you could be doing actual magick.
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02/17/19 (Sun) 07:07:03 No. 128590
>>128588
>>127962
I think he was originally promoted here due to his correspondence with the prolific 'green pill' zeitgeist at the time.
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SAGE! 02/17/19 (Sun) 15:11:34 No. 128595
>>128583
Your posting style breaks those rules then, "anon".
Also rule #8
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02/17/19 (Sun) 15:16:40 No. 128596
>>128588
His truth analysis articles are highly valuable.
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07/26/19 (Fri) 20:41:16 No. 133857
>>127892
How do you know that that's possible?
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05/20/20 (Wed) 14:53:06 No. 134593
>>127892
>swapping bodies
waaaaat
Is there a book I can read on that? I don't care if I'm ressing a dead thread I want to learn that
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05/21/20 (Thu) 15:26:17 No. 134618
>>134593
Lobsang Rampa writes about it and purportedly accomplished the very act himself. His books used to in the /fringe/ library in the first year of /fringe/ being a thing but were eventually discarded.
https://lobsangrampa.org/
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05/21/20 (Thu) 15:36:21 No. 134620
is it true that the emerald tablets say that 3 days without food or water is enough fasting to attain a mystical experience?
…or is this not exactly found in the emerald tablets. i've read the emerald tablets and have not come across this
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05/22/20 (Fri) 10:57:34 No. 134649
>>134620
I think the Medicine Men (North American Natives) do 4 days and nights of fasting (no food or water) and no sleep and just constant prayer. I forget now.
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05/22/20 (Fri) 14:00:09 No. 134651
>>134620
I haven't come across this either. Regardless, I dry fasted for a week a few times and didn't have a mystical experience by merely doing just that and nothing else. However, it does simplify it so there is that.
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05/22/20 (Fri) 16:50:42 No. 134654
I'd like to point out one thing about fasting. It was mentioned as a panacea by Paracelsus and it was used throughout the ages to sensitize the body to influences of herbs, medicines, etc. that otherwise do pretty much nothing. A lot of stuff that has basically no effect on you normally have a very powerful effect if you take it while fasting.
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05/23/20 (Sat) 11:15:10 No. 134669
I'll use this thread to dump a realization I just had.
It is often said that reality is holographic, and as such, every part contains the whole. We for instance, contain the whole of the universe (as above, so below, etc).
However, one thing that is usually not known is that when you cut a hologram in half, even though both halves contain "the whole", it is reduced to half the resolution. Meaning, it's the whole, but degraded. And subsequent divisions of the hologram degrade the resolution of the information even more.
I'll let the reader deduce what this means in the context of "as above, so below".
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05/23/20 (Sat) 14:03:28 No. 134672
>>134669
reminds me of this
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