Six Years 01/29/19 (Tue) 21:06:49 No. 127858 [View All]
My conclusions:
1. Psychic abilities are real.
2. All psychic power is based on the fact all thoughts influence everything; other thoughts, your body, the world, etc.
3. Because of the very nature of every thought influence working itself upon a situation, psychic powers work best when used covertly or only in harmonious conditions with like-minded persons.
4. Different people, depending on their psychic makeup, can be useful or not in an operation.
5. The intensity of a thought makes it have a stronger effect. If your life or whatever you hold dear is on the line, if there is very much at stake, or you have cultivated the ability to will fervent and overwhelming desire it is easier and more natural for people to forget their limitations and use these powers.
6. Thoughtforms automate processes that otherwise would have to be bruteforced and can be used to build a psychic structure that becomes more reliable for higher level ops to be conducted.
7. You can insulate your mental structure by cutting off the "water element" but you will struggle to function psychically then. The water element is basically receptivity. Invoking "earth element" also stabilizes you making any likelihood of change slower. Used properly these elements can help you, in other situation they retard your growth.
8. It is possible to swing around extremely different mental dispositions and outlooks. Including extreme scepticism, whimsy, solid faith, intense self-doubting, etc. One day you can prove beyond all reasonable doubt the reality of these things, then another time it can feel like it never happened, even when you have solid and undeniable proof before you.
9. This can often happen by mental contact with persons whose mentality then infects you through the aforementioned water element. This can be because of an email exchange, a talk with a stranger or friend, having spent time posting in a thread, etc.
10. You have to learn to rest in the I AM, the self, and not be identified with body or mind. This will allow you to remain detached and to be able to shed off these mental afflictions. You will grow strong in spirit, so strong, that nothing will have a permanent hold over you and you will be absolutely free.
11. Egregores and "thought clouds" or concentrations of related mental influences can dominate a particular area in physicalspace or cyberspace or mentalspace. Simply being aware of it allows one to effectively control the masses on imageboards and such. Prolonged workings with these egregores can help to shut out enemy "wizards" who'd try to undermine the place or to dip into the energy of a place, gather it, and use it for ones own purposes.
12. Sigils can be unusually effective. Sigils can be anything. Graffiti, logos, combinations of letters, geometry, etc. I have drawn sigils on buildings and peoples vehicles and the effects, especially over a long period of time, were tremendous. If you want a place to burn down as by accident or to go through some other disaster for example, one can focus ones despair and other negativity into a sigil, draw it with paint or oil or in the dirt on the side of a vehicle, and let it be. No doubt you could also protect a place or bring good influences but the negative sort of energy has always been the more readily accessible for me.
13. Cleaning an area often and thoroughly is a great way to mix your soul into the surroundings.
14. The hardest thing in magick is trying to prove it to the masses in general. We can't even make everyone agree the Earth is a sphere, how can we prove anything at all to everyone? There are always doubters as well as people who just don't care are wilfully ignorant and have their interests elsewhere, and if you do want to prove yourself, you will have to pick out one person at a time to work very hard on, and never try to take on like 10 people who are all doubting you all at once unless you're a particularly bad ass wizard who has prepared through months being immersed only in the most faithful of books and intense meditation and has the backing of many other strong wizards and spirits who are subtlely helping empower you without anyone knowing just so you can pull off converting like 10 people all at once to the truth of "all is mind; the universe is mental".
15. If you're always immersed in the mental spheres of people whose thoughts are contrary to the variety needed for psychic phenomena to take place, you're going to live a very boring mundane life, imprisoned by your own doubts and that of others around you.
16. Psychic phenomena, although absolutely real and objectively verifiable between two or more persons, is pretty much doomed to be occulted forever; hidden in the shadows and the mysterious places. It can only take hold in little isolated pockets outside of the awareness of the mundane masses.
17. To really grow, you must choose to separate yourself from the mundane, and to keep silence. Any time you challenge someone, try to prove something, and thus attract the immediate doubts of others you will weaken. If you despite this weakening succeed, it will be entirely to their benefit, and not to yours. This is only worthy of doing if you find someone who is sincerely seeking and will walk this path with you, it's not worth it to do for people who will just be like "oh okay I see, so magick is real after all, wow" and then go on living their mundane life. Only initiate those who are worthy to receive it.
18. If you are like me, you won't listen, and you will try to prove magick is real for many years to people, and you will succeed with various persons, and you will see just how they profane the sacred science abusing it or forsaking it. Eventually you will get over this need to prove things and take better care instead to not attract injurious thought influence that you might grow in the silence.
To Know; To Will; To Dare; To Keep Silence.
These four pillars truly are the foundation upon which the initiate shall come to know all that is worthy of knowing.
"The lips of Wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding."
(The Kybalion)
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:05:25 No. 127954
>…Now here is the logic you want.
>It does not say AT EACH HARVEST all of the entities are STS in 3D, it says all of the entities who are STS will become STS 4D.
>At the first time of Creation, all of the entities in 3D HAD BEEN STS. Then they ALL have not been graduated to 4D STS, SOME GRADUATED AND SOME STAYED AS ONLY 3D STS, AND WHILE THIS IS HAPPENING THOSE BEINGS WHO HAVE BEEN GRADUATED TO 4D STS CONTINUED THEIR EXPERIENCE, TIME PASSED, AND SOME OF THEM GAINED RIGHT TO GRADUATE TO THE 3RD DENSITY AS STO.
>As it says there with big letters, at each time only a percent. So always there will be a mix of STS and STO beings in 3D or 4D. It says ALL of the entities will become and PASS, sooner or later, STS 4D. This is not a slight difference, this is extremely important if I can express what it means.
>You think that all 4D STS beings are MONSTERS, EXTREMELY HARMFUL. IT IS ONLY THE PEAK POINT of 4d sts beings. THINK ABOUT HITLER. HE IS A STS. AND THERE ARE MANY
OTHER STSs here in 3D. Are all of them Hitlers? No. You think that only those who are close to Hitler are having right to graduate to 4D. This is a Ra Material fallacy. NO, ONLY SOME OF THEM ARE SO. THERE ARE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF
STSs AND AFTER A CERTAIN CHANGE IN THEIR PROPORTION THEY ARE COUNTED AS 3D STO GRAUDATES NOT 4D STO GRADUATES!
>ONLY 4D STOs are always always positive. That is why it is being allowed there to live them together. When 4D STS beings REACH THEIR PEAKS, IT IS 4D STOs WHO ARE NOT ALLOWONG THEM TO COMPLETELY MAKE A DISASTER.
>THE OTHER PERCENT OF THEM ARE ON THE DEPRESSION SLOPE OF THEIR STS, WHICH IS MAKING THEM SOON OR LATE HAVING RIGHT TO GRADUATE TO 3D STS. TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT. THIS IS LOGICAL AND ALSO IT FITS INTO EVERY UNIVERSAL PRINCIPLE.
>You think that a being is 4D STS or 4D STO ARE COMPLETELY DIVIDED BY A STEEL WALL IN THE 4D. NO. AS BELOW SO ABOVE. IN 4D ALSO STO AND STS BEINGS ARE NOT SEPERATEDLY LIVING. AND EACH 4D STS ARE NOT LIVING THEIR PEAKS- EXTREMELY HARMFUL MONSTERS…ALL 4D STSs are NOT LIZARDS! LIZARDS ARE ALSO A STAGE ON 4D STS MODE, SAY IT THE PEAK. SOON OR LATE THEY GET INTO DEPRESSION SIDE, CHANGE THEIR PERCENTAGES, GET OFF THEIR LIZARD BODIES AND CONTINUE WITH OTHER MODERATE 4D STS BODIES, AND WHEN TIME COMES THEY GET RIGHT TO GRADUATE INTO 3D STO.
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 22:06:19 No. 127955
And this was some woke kid sending an E-mail to Montalk. Al least this guy knows how to be succinct.
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 22:07:27 No. 127956
Err.. Sorry about the epileptic formatting…
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:16:59 No. 127959
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. http://montalk.net/metaphys/267/sto-sts-and-densities
That's montalks long boring version of the info that he got in this E-mail
By the way folks, the first density is the zereoth. The 7th density is technically the 6th density. 6+0=7 in metaphysics.
Also the lowest and highest density is the same. All of existence into a single point, or the smallest point possible. It's a singularity either way.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:30:14 No. 127962
>>127952
>>127953
>>127954
never liked Montalk. New-age brainlet roleplay like this makes me wanna vomit. Please someone tell me that not everyone here goes along with this crap
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:30:32 No. 127963
>>127962
Why does it make you want to vomit
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:31:09 No. 127964
Anyways it makes me want to vomit too. But I owe some of my understanding to him. He sure is wordy though. Great for autists, and I used to be autistic.
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:31:29 No. 127965
And that alien shit is a red herring
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:34:06 No. 127966
Sorry I'm spmming and shitposting. Thinking about this gets me too excited. Not healthy when I have things to do.
>>127962
The thing is, Montalk derives his own understanding from Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, Hermeticism, Ra teachings Cassiopeia channelings, etc etc etc etc.
The gnosis series is a great breakdown (or rather extrapolation…) for an esoteric perspective of Abrahamic theology.
You can honestly skip all this shit and learn Buddhism though, IMO
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01/31/19 (Thu) 22:35:35 No. 127967
Reality is the duality of repetition and novelty, samsara and nirvana
Absolute samsara is infinite reincarnation, and absolute nirvana is the end game unification
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SAGE! 01/31/19 (Thu) 22:36:46 No. 127968
I have said too much. I must go now
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02/01/19 (Fri) 01:13:24 No. 127978
>>127968
>I have said too much. I must go now
Me too!
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02/01/19 (Fri) 05:15:23 No. 127988
Rolled 9, 6, 5 + 1 = 21 (3d9)
>>127858
Smiley, what a journey. 2019 had one month pass and I've already met wise elders and heard stories of sea monsters. One whole tremendous OP extraordinaire with a missing cherry, the true god of yourself. Phosphorus glows at 100 F, cells emit lights, the sun radiates energy, we are rays of lights in time space. Best of all, we're healing the karma of our ignorance. Deprogramming everywhere. We all have a part to play.
The secret is public, healing is always, everyone has fingers crossed for the human breakthrough. Imagine a mantra so powerful it could make you understand all the problems in the world. Imagine a cheat code that when entered, unlocks gateways to the beyond.
Knowledge is the true value. Information is key.
Today you know the 3rd Dimension, 4th dimension, 5th dimension. Tomorrow you will know the rest. The keys to the stars at your fingertips.
3 dice, 9 sides. Numerology n+n+n, if it's a 2 digit number, nn & n+n = nn & N. I charge the intention of this dice roll to be the number for Smileys next challenge on his journey.
"Do you believe me now, Trinity?"
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02/01/19 (Fri) 05:19:41 No. 127989
>>127988
Sorry for the +1 modifier.
20, 2
Cooperation, Sensing, Peace and Warmth.
Surpass duality. Realize ternary. Two pillars.
Post: 1+2+7+9+8+8 = 3+5 = 8
To infinity and beyond brother.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 05:26:29 No. 127990
Why would body swapping work if free will exists
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:10:51 No. 127993
>>127990
I don't know man. It's FOOLISH.
But from a purely autistically logical view, it seems possible.
Gotta look at the even bigger picture.
How did you incarnate into this realm?
You can swap and do whatever the fuck you want in a shared dream or whatever, but directly controlling another physical body?
That's not how this shit works, sorry.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:13:42 No. 127994
Although you can make a tulpa to be a helper for someone, and have subtle access to all the information of that servitor/egregore.
You would need to be REALLY close with a person to be able to do this, perhaps a loved one.
For all intents and practical purposes, you can arguably say that body swapping is possible, bot not in the literal direct sense. That's ridiculous in physicality.
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SAGE! 02/01/19 (Fri) 06:14:28 No. 127995
ALTHOUGH if you get really good at astral projection…
You can literally do anything any demon is capable of doing.
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SAGE! 02/01/19 (Fri) 06:15:36 No. 127996
Uncle chuckie knows, but I never bothered to read into it
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:39:16 No. 127998
>>127952
Mmmh… Literally yesterday I got a sudden gnosis and I realized we don’t really become our higher self, but we become LIKE our higher self, in care of another lower self. Very interesting that you would post this text which I didn’t know. My gnosis yesterday and what this person L said are the only two times I’ve come across that concept which didn’t make sense until now. Also, the way it fits into my paradigm has different implications and it takes a different form from the highly anthropomorphic way Montalk and co. interpret their gnosis.
Also
>hitler was a sts monster
lol you kight disagree with him but how blind do you need to be to not see the monstrous sacrifice he made for his people? Very flawed gnosis (like everything Montalk) but that tidbit about the higher self is very valuable to me.
In broad terms, I’ll try to explain. You need to be familiar with the gnostic structure of being in pic related. In my case I do not believe the spirit is trapped by the demiurge, but that everything is part of an evolutionary process, and by the cycling of reincarnation, the spirit is developing and refining the soul in increments until it has accumulated enough useful experience to reach a critical mass and become spirit itself.
I struggled to see how the soul could transcend and become the spirit while being both at the same time, since the spirit is timeless but the soul is not, and is currently embeded in a time where it hasn’t transcended yet. But it turns out one’s spirit may not be “us”, but that at some point the soul evolves into an immortal spirit that will engender a soul of its own. Expressed in fluffy anthropomorphic new age terms this is what the document you linked talked about. The rest is of little value, but if you squint and scrape away all the STS vs STO nonense and the grade school density numbering, you can actually begin to see the real shape of it.
There’s a lot of missing gnosis you need to fully make sense of this, but I don’t have the heart to lay it all out here in a way that can be understood. Some of it needs to be experienced.
What’s funny is I was withheld this breakthrough until I figured it out on my own, somehow, but between yesterday and now it has been given to me. Why, what have I done or changed in order to be able to take a step is something that always eludes me.
Anyway, thanks for posting that.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 06:46:41 No. 127999
>>127990
Because free will is greatly misunderstood. Basically, it doesn’t exist (queue terrified new agers autistic screeching). Your free will is your karma, and your karma is your free will. And sometimes it is to be consumed and destroyed (as you consider yourself “you”, at least).
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:30:17 No. 128005
>>127858
O = True
/// = Mostly True
// = Kinda
/ = Mostly False
X = False
1. //
2. /
3. ///
4. O
5. O
6. O
7. O
8. O
9. O
10. //
11. O
12. //
13. //
14. X
15. //
16. X
17. X
18. X
I have taken into account the grey area between the meaning of psychic and the meaning of psychological when judging. I vehemently disagree with these notions no one will believe, as all that's been described here is some persuasion, memes, advanced imaginary friends (tulpamancy), and some social advice, all of which, apart from tulpamancy, is acknowledged in a scholastic setting. In regards to the mention of water and earth, for those confused just replace water with influence and earth with stubbornness it's one of those "I wanna feel important by using symbolic language" things. People should quit acting like there's one accurate definition of magic as all it is is a general collection of interesting areas of study with an emphasis on its pragmatic application via imagination and influence; much like politics but with more creative bullshit. When you cut out the shitty information and unnecessary symbolism magic is more of a category of communication-oriented information, like something you'd find in an Arts Humanities and Social Sciences college, rather than something impossible or elite in nature.
~Epyc Wynn
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:36:58 No. 128007
>>127999
Oh you were great until you started using gibberish terms. We speak english here, and you can respect tradition all you want but knowing foreign terms should not be a prerequisite.
I know what you're talking about and find that to not be a sufficient explanation to say the least.
What's really happening is that we have complete and utter free will with our actual nonphysical form.
But the physical realm is such a fun time (seemed like a good idea at the time…) that everyone here actually consented to incarnte into this realm.
They consented to forget. They consented to pretend to not know, similar to what God Consciousness does, to allow existence to happen.
We all gambled that we would somehow come back to the realization of our life purpose when we incarnated here…
You gave up free will when you consented to all the limitations of physicality
In fact this is the crux of the issue here.
>>127858
You can't just say that everything is mental. Sure it is, but that doesn't mean anything.
It's still physical, and that is because we also agreed to another condition when we incarnated. We can't break the rules of physicality.
That would defeat the purpose of this physical existence. You have access to developer mode every night. Try your God mode there, not here. It literally feels just as real, so what is the use of fucking around here? The gratification of abusing another entity? They are all a part of you just as your dreamscape is a part of you.
But good luck sucking demirgic dick to get what you want. It's silly.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:37:52 No. 128008
>>128005
> "I wanna feel important by using symbolic language"
kek
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02/01/19 (Fri) 07:41:42 No. 128010
>>128008
Your kek fires my waters and enlightens my crown chakra.
~Epyc Wynn
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02/01/19 (Fri) 08:06:27 No. 128011
>>hitler was a sts monster
oh fuck I didn't even notice that. He did have good intentions and Nat Soc is great, but I still wonder about a greater conspiracy; still can't be sure about what happened.
Also this STS and STO shit might be a false dichotomy, but at the same time there is a lot of coherence here. I mean being trapped in the false dichtomy leads to STS behaviour, but with some possibly flawed logic you can say being selfish about your race… Again I don't know what really happened (nor do I really care know). I've heard so many alternate narratives for history, it's just hilarious. Some say Hitler was working for the Jews and Jews are Martians that invaded Atlantis and Jesus is the son of Cleopatra. Fuck history man, I just don't know.
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02/01/19 (Fri) 08:26:10 No. 128012
>>127998
>But it turns out one’s spirit may not be “us”, but that at some point the soul evolves into an immortal spirit that will engender a soul of its own.
Perfect! Now an explanation of mechanics behind this phenomena is needed. Oh man I wanna write an essay now, on the physical circuit of the brain correlating to a nonphysical informational circuit of the mind that becomes… way more important after you die. Or something. But that begs the question of what nonphysical information is there before one incarnated here, and how access to that information changes as one incarnates elsewhere. This would require a second essay.
>There’s a lot of missing gnosis you need to fully make sense of this, but I don’t have the heart to lay it all out here in a way that can be understood. Some of it needs to be experienced.
I haven't given up on the notion that everything can be logically explained, but it's a full time job since there is no coherent system today. It needs to be made.
>What’s funny is I was withheld this breakthrough until I figured it out on my own, somehow, but between yesterday and now it has been given to me. Why, what have I done or changed in order to be able to take a step is something that always eludes me.
This is why I hesitate. Even if you can logically explain everything, being spoon fed all the answers to life robs one of the experience of figuring it out themselves. This may be a fallacious line of thought however…. In that second essay I'd talk about how limitation is actually a benefit. Before incarnating we had knowledge and we lost that knowledge. We chose to forget so we could have the experience of learning!
Either way whatever is meant to be is meant to be. And for whatever reason.. Oh that makes me want to write a third essay. Everything is predetermined but time doesn't exist. Predetermined events are basically contingency plans.
For whatever reason, perhaps a contingency event occurred for you or something who knows. Regardless, this is an instance of synchronicity.
These synchronous events, is further evidence of a collective consciousness. There's many layers to it, and something special is happening to Humanity
>>128010
You must have a lot of fun with crafting those images. And if you want you can factor in the witnessing of your creations by humans as some of the variables in this layer
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02/01/19 (Fri) 22:55:50 No. 128061
>>127887
here's a list i found a while back
this is also one that i found mentioned somewhere, i actually really like it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5sPv65HV08&t=783s
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02/02/19 (Sat) 04:20:30 No. 128078
>>127942
>as the thing he says are easily proven inaccurate with just a bit of personal experience
Like what?
>>127943
Who supersedes him then?
>>127948
Second death is the consequence of desires burning out. Life here with all its suffering and tension produces a surplus of desire. The key to immortality is to desire in such a way as for one's desire to never burn out.
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02/03/19 (Sun) 19:08:53 No. 128118
>>128078
>Second death is the consequence of desires burning out. Life here with all its suffering and tension produces a surplus of desire. The key to immortality is to desire in such a way as for one's desire to never burn out.
Energy can be received through connection with the source, or through parasitical action.
Those that cut themselves off from the source, can only sustain themselves through consumption.
That is why there are those entities in the realms that seem to only exist to take your attention.
The monsters in nightmares whose only weapon is fear to attract your attention for their energy and sustenance.
There is no true harm, only fear.
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02/16/19 (Sat) 09:37:34 No. 128570
Six unto seven years as of now for myself. I can thoroughly state that one of the most intuitive fundamentals upon my own teachings is well platformed and executed STO workings.
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02/16/19 (Sat) 15:17:55 No. 128574
OP who art thou?
From whence come ye?
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02/16/19 (Sat) 15:24:09 No. 128576
>>127876
nigger voodoo is very real and rampant in amerika
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02/16/19 (Sat) 21:47:53 No. 128582
>>128005
With no retort I am forced to assume /fringe/ agrees with analysis of OP, without me even having to argue any points.
~[redacted]
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02/16/19 (Sat) 22:08:10 No. 128583
>>128582
Your posting style breaks rules #5 and #7.
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02/17/19 (Sun) 00:50:32 No. 128585
>>128583
Kybalion rules trump Fringe rules. Only real fringefries understand.
~E p y c [redacted] W y n n
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02/17/19 (Sun) 01:49:49 No. 128586
>>128583
Where did you get his portrait!?
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02/17/19 (Sun) 03:57:57 No. 128588
>>127962
Me neither. I don't even know why he's so shilled around here. He's not even a magician, he's just your average conspiracy theorist with new age tier ideas about morality. I also get a generally bad feeling about him so I take everything he says with a grain of salt.
If ayy lmao conspiracy theories are your thing then I guess but I think that's all a waste of time when you could be doing actual magick.
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02/17/19 (Sun) 07:07:03 No. 128590
>>128588
>>127962
I think he was originally promoted here due to his correspondence with the prolific 'green pill' zeitgeist at the time.
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SAGE! 02/17/19 (Sun) 15:11:34 No. 128595
>>128583
Your posting style breaks those rules then, "anon".
Also rule #8
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02/17/19 (Sun) 15:16:40 No. 128596
>>128588
His truth analysis articles are highly valuable.
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07/26/19 (Fri) 20:41:16 No. 133857
>>127892
How do you know that that's possible?
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05/20/20 (Wed) 14:53:06 No. 134593
>>127892
>swapping bodies
waaaaat
Is there a book I can read on that? I don't care if I'm ressing a dead thread I want to learn that
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05/21/20 (Thu) 15:26:17 No. 134618
>>134593
Lobsang Rampa writes about it and purportedly accomplished the very act himself. His books used to in the /fringe/ library in the first year of /fringe/ being a thing but were eventually discarded.
https://lobsangrampa.org/
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05/21/20 (Thu) 15:36:21 No. 134620
is it true that the emerald tablets say that 3 days without food or water is enough fasting to attain a mystical experience?
…or is this not exactly found in the emerald tablets. i've read the emerald tablets and have not come across this
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05/22/20 (Fri) 10:57:34 No. 134649
>>134620
I think the Medicine Men (North American Natives) do 4 days and nights of fasting (no food or water) and no sleep and just constant prayer. I forget now.
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05/22/20 (Fri) 14:00:09 No. 134651
>>134620
I haven't come across this either. Regardless, I dry fasted for a week a few times and didn't have a mystical experience by merely doing just that and nothing else. However, it does simplify it so there is that.
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05/22/20 (Fri) 16:50:42 No. 134654
I'd like to point out one thing about fasting. It was mentioned as a panacea by Paracelsus and it was used throughout the ages to sensitize the body to influences of herbs, medicines, etc. that otherwise do pretty much nothing. A lot of stuff that has basically no effect on you normally have a very powerful effect if you take it while fasting.
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05/23/20 (Sat) 11:15:10 No. 134669
I'll use this thread to dump a realization I just had.
It is often said that reality is holographic, and as such, every part contains the whole. We for instance, contain the whole of the universe (as above, so below, etc).
However, one thing that is usually not known is that when you cut a hologram in half, even though both halves contain "the whole", it is reduced to half the resolution. Meaning, it's the whole, but degraded. And subsequent divisions of the hologram degrade the resolution of the information even more.
I'll let the reader deduce what this means in the context of "as above, so below".
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05/23/20 (Sat) 14:03:28 No. 134672
>>134669
reminds me of this
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