Julius Evola 10/09/16 (Sun) 09:28:43 No. 84825 [Last50 Posts]
How familiar is /fringe/ with the works and occult philosophies of the philosopher Julius Evola?
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10/09/16 (Sun) 16:21:35 No. 84832
[riding the tiger intensifies]
\Would add Evola flag if only codemonkey would finally fucking fix the flags so I can upload new ones.
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10/09/16 (Sun) 19:05:42 No. 84835
>>84832
I'm more of a Schuon fan but I would totally use a Perennialist flag if that was a thing.
I have no idea what that would look like though.
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10/09/16 (Sun) 19:40:31 No. 84836
>>84835
I have so many flags I want to add but 8chan is STILL buggy and the problem that prevents new flags being uploaded still hasn't been fixed:
>>>/sudo/6465
>>>/sudo/6132
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10/12/16 (Wed) 05:53:39 No. 84942
I guess you could call me a "fan" of his work. I don't post here often, though. If anyone is interested in discussing him my email is juanbaptistefitzcarraldo@gmail
I generally prefer conversation, one on one, through email to message boards, but I browse here occasionally.
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10/12/16 (Wed) 12:44:27 No. 84950
>>84942
I can't tell if your post is a joke or not.
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10/12/16 (Wed) 16:35:49 No. 84957
>>84950
it's not, I prefer more serious, long term engaged discussion through email
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10/12/16 (Wed) 22:15:32 No. 84973
>>84957
>fourth way flag
>fan of evola
i may email you yet, juan
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10/16/16 (Sun) 06:54:08 No. 85153
Can anyone comment on the content inside Introduction to Magic? I've heard its a good alternative to IIH but i haven't seen Evola or his techniques discussed anywhere near as much as Bardon.
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10/18/16 (Tue) 04:52:45 No. 85227
>>84973
Still waiting on that email. Are you at all involved in "the work"?
>>85153
I'm still new to that particular book (started it recently), but it's not exactly any kind of systematic exposition on a topic. It has several authors contributing with Julius Evola as the editor. It's basically a collection of essays. Evola has a seperate book on Hermeticism and Alchemy called "The Hermetic Tradition".
I haven't read that Bardon book, so I can't offer a comparison.
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10/18/16 (Tue) 04:55:03 No. 85228
>>84942
>If anyone is interested in discussing him my email is juanbaptistefitzcarraldo@gmail
We have this imageboard called "/fringe/" where you can have discussions about shit like this.
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10/18/16 (Tue) 04:56:34 No. 85229
>>85153
I read parts of it long ago and found it very flowery. I'm not big into poetry and just read to find actually useful information, so I dropped it.
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10/18/16 (Tue) 04:58:11 No. 85230
>>85228
And some of us have emails where we discuss things in addition to the discussions we already engage in on image boards.
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10/19/16 (Wed) 06:12:25 No. 85283
Some of you may find this useful.
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10/19/16 (Wed) 06:19:13 No. 85284
>>85283
Only thing I disagree with is that he says to read Path of Cinnabar last. If you really want to get into Evola, more than superficially, then read it early on. It not only goes into the context in which each of his books was written, but also summarizes their major concepts. It's a good intro to his work. He also comments on the ways in which his views may have changed. For example, with reference to Heathen Imperialism, he considered it to be the work of an immature mind.
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10/19/16 (Wed) 11:10:06 No. 85285
>>85283
>conspicuous knuckle duster on book with his name.
>assault rifle magazine and bullets sprinkled on top of another book.
Poser chic.
I think 'ride the tiger' may have been his catchphrase 'come to bed' remark, probably with a growl at the end and a 'come on baby and' at the beginning.
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10/20/16 (Thu) 05:59:21 No. 85323
>>85283
Does an English translation of Heathen Imperialism exist? I absolutely need it.
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10/21/16 (Fri) 00:57:46 No. 85350
>>85323
It is here: https://juliusevola.co/library/
>>85153
It is not nearly as clear as IIH, but may be just as valuable. Read the essay "knowledge of the waters", and if you like it, you'll like the rest of the book. There's also an intriguing, complex ritual described a third of the way in, from old Mithraic texts so it could help those looking for a "non jew-pozzed" ritual preserved from antiquity.
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10/22/16 (Sat) 01:44:22 No. 85373
>>85227
I've been away but I will contact you soon.
I am in contact with a group that practices "the Work" and try to run my own exercises as best I can from reading his material
>>85283
One comment I'd make on this image in relation to what the author said about Evola's criticism on fascism. Evola criticizes primarily the doctrine of fascism in that work, not specifically the actual regime of Mussolini, though that is addressed (and found to be certainly inferior to the 'pure' doctrine).
I think there is a major error in the way people on here view fascism and national socialism. They seem to think that these are political expressions of the 'higher order of things,' but really they are what one might call imitations, or even parodies. Evola, and the viewpoint that judges thing 'from the top down' in general, favors fascism, national socialism and related things only insofar as they are preferable to the other modern systems. I really recommend Rene Guenon's "Reign of Quantity" to anyone interested in looking into this, and of course Evola's criticisms of fascism and national socialism.
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10/31/16 (Mon) 13:40:29 No. 85668
>>84825
His works seem nice.
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10/31/16 (Mon) 15:43:55 No. 85672
>>85373
Yeah ok, Evola was actualyl an anti-racist liberal that wanted to insittute global street shitting, who would have thought. And here we thought he proposed ideals of fascist thought, talking about pagan imperiums and whanot.
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10/31/16 (Mon) 22:04:29 No. 85686
>>85672
you do not understand. please read what Evola actually wrote
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11/08/16 (Tue) 07:14:06 No. 86013
>>85686
He was anti-Fascist, but pretty much as right wing as possible aside from that.
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01/12/17 (Thu) 21:04:52 No. 89508
>>86013
>anti-fascist
In that it wasn't right wing enough
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01/21/17 (Sat) 21:06:02 No. 90130
Reading "Revolt Against the Modern World" and "Doctrine of Awakening" at the moment. Books like this should be part of the required reading for this board. Same with the UR Group's "Intro to Magic".
>>85672
In "The Path of Cinnabar" Evola said that people shouldn't even bother reading "Pagan Imperialism" since he wrote it during an edgy phase. In general Evola considered his "political" works as a source of annoyance since people would often visit him desiring to discuss politics when all Evola really cared about was the spiritual development and progress of the individual, which of course implies for Evola something transcendent, super-individual, and super-political.
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09/13/17 (Wed) 19:54:26 No. 109168
juliusevola.co library doesnt seem to have evola pdfs anymore
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03/03/18 (Sat) 04:43:11 No. 117040
Besides the first volume of Introduction to Magic, is there any other material from the Ur group available in English? I quite like the more practical aspect of that text vs some of Evola's more academic works.
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03/03/18 (Sat) 07:20:03 No. 117043
>>117040
This is the best we have: http://www.gornahoor.net/?s=introduction+to+magic&submit=Search
Unfortunately it seems unlikely the other two volumes of Introduction to Magic will be translated and published.
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03/03/18 (Sat) 08:29:29 No. 117044
I'm totally new to Evolas work and frankly I've wanted to read some of his works for almost a year now but never got around to do it. This thread remindet me of it. You have my thanks Paganon
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03/29/18 (Thu) 14:37:50 No. 118322
Reminder to read Guenon's works until "The Symbolism of the Cross" first before you even start Evola
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03/29/18 (Thu) 16:48:43 No. 118328
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03/29/18 (Thu) 21:58:07 No. 118337
>>84942
>juan
Just how many spaniards are involved in occult/esoteric and proto-european etymological research has always piqued my interest.
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03/30/18 (Fri) 17:18:51 No. 118364
>>118328
he was THE influence on Evola, and that's the date where Evola starts writing his own works. I can guarantee you that Evola read the first 10 works of Guenon atleast once, if not multiple times.
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03/30/18 (Fri) 23:34:38 No. 118376
>>85153
In the middle of reading it, really enjoying it so far. I recommend it.
I've already read Revolt against the modern world and thouroughly enjoyed it, well.. it is a bit heavy but really gets your mind/thoughts going
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03/31/18 (Sat) 12:58:28 No. 118391
Currently studying Revolt Against the Modern World . I've been reading each chapter twice, writing brief summaries after the first read and taking notes on key phrases and quotes after the second. It is indeed rather heavy material, but compared to Isis Unveiled which I waded through last year it's not too bad. Blavatsky is a really hard read. As for Evola I also have physical copies of Men Amongst The Ruins , Ride The Tiger and Introduction to Magic .
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04/05/18 (Thu) 20:54:55 No. 118493
i've read about 100 pages from Metaphysics of Sex along with "Meditation on the Peaks" and "Ride the Tiger". I find him to be too unclear in most cases. >>84942 do you have a blog? you should start one if not. I'm interested in what people have to say about Evola but I don't have anything to contribute
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04/11/18 (Wed) 20:09:04 No. 118590
>>118337
I wouldn't know, since it's a pseudonym and I'm not actually a Spaniard.
>>118493
I do. Haven't updated in a while, though.
https://juanfitzcarraldo.wordpress.com
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04/13/18 (Fri) 15:43:52 No. 118728
Instead of making a separate thread, I'll ask here: what do readers of Evola think of Rene Guenon? I'm currently reading "Symbols of the Sacred Science", and I've never had my mind so blown by a book before, I mean this book has elicited genuine spiritual experiences out of me.
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04/13/18 (Fri) 16:50:18 No. 118734
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04/14/18 (Sat) 00:14:43 No. 118744
I've more read his more mainstream stuff but I got a book called The Occult War on his recommendation in his essay about historiography which I'm about to start. I dont expect anything much in terms of actual occult discussion but it looks pretty interesting and semi-related
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05/24/18 (Thu) 16:44:37 No. 120494
I like Evola, but he never really gets to the heart of the issue, the core of our existence here and the obvious bullshittery with things like astronomy or paleontology so it seems he's just a loosh farming idiot.
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06/28/18 (Thu) 05:07:45 No. 122313
>>120494
And what would you consider to be the heart of the issue? Evola diagnosed the issues of modernity in great detail while providing insight into the various different paths a "differentiated individual" can follow.
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06/29/18 (Fri) 07:33:29 No. 122407
I tried to read ride the tiger and Julius Evola just drove me insane. I feel like I couldn't really get to the base of what he was trying to say because he may have believed he was some kind of poet but instead his words were a pain to read. I really wanted to understand his message and think about it, but I couldn't even understand him in the first place. I'm upset when knowledge is lost because people can't just get over their ego and speak plainly.
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07/12/18 (Thu) 10:42:55 No. 123193
Found out the next volume of ITM is getting released in February.
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07/12/18 (Thu) 22:33:35 No. 123235
Recently I decided to give Evola a try and I'm just about to finish his "The Doctrine of Awakening ". It's the single greatest introduction and overview I've seen of original Buddhist practice ever. He's phenomenally educated on the subject and quotes extensively from the Pali Canon on just about every page. His perspective as a 20th century Italian fascist is also highly refreshing compared to your modern, typical neolibs who superficially skim the surface of the topic.
Evola likes to play up the angle of Siddharta as an Aryan crown prince of the warrior caste as well, and quotes often from the Buddha's war like metaphors on the topic of awakening. Going to do battle with the typical samsaric currents and so forth.
Greatly enjoying this and I think next I'll read his book on Shakta and Tantra.
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07/13/18 (Fri) 22:18:17 No. 123285
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12/13/18 (Thu) 06:08:43 No. 126851
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03/12/19 (Tue) 02:39:09 No. 129305
>>123193
You preordered your copy, right?
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03/12/19 (Tue) 03:15:27 No. 129307
>>123193
Why does nobody make audiobooks of Julius Evola's works?
Someone has to narrate his stuff.
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03/12/19 (Tue) 18:06:59 No. 129335
Can somebody scan the book or buy the Kindle file and upload it
https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Magic-II-Initiatic-Wisdom-ebook/dp/B07C7KNX3Z/
I'm willing to donate if necessary
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03/12/19 (Tue) 19:23:12 No. 129338
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03/12/19 (Tue) 19:36:14 No. 129339
>>129338
Just downloaded your file and it says "the pdf has been damaged" and that "xodo can't open the file".
…
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03/12/19 (Tue) 19:54:06 No. 129340
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03/12/19 (Tue) 20:41:20 No. 129341
>>129338
I just want to remind everyone to buy the book as well to show interest in Evola's work. It will suck if we have to wait another 18 years for volume 3 to get translated.
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03/13/19 (Wed) 03:33:16 No. 129344
>>129341
Or just learn the language? What is it, Italian? Shouldn't take more than two years to master
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03/13/19 (Wed) 05:08:39 No. 129345
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03/14/19 (Thu) 04:12:16 No. 129358
Any thoughts on the book so far? The essay Subterranean Logic is pretty good.
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03/16/19 (Sat) 18:55:37 No. 129393
>>118728
>>118734
What are Guenon's best books, or which of his works should I read first? I've been making my way through Evola's oeuvre, and have finished reading much of his writings translated and published into English; I'd like to study more of Traditionalist esotericism, and Guenon seems to me the most logical philosopher to read next. Any other recommendations for esoteric philosophers of this school of thought and illuminating insight would also be appreciated. Also, are there any modern esoteric authors of Evola's caliber?
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03/17/19 (Sun) 01:25:50 No. 129402
>>129393
Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines
Man and His Becoming According to the Vedanta
Symbolism of the Cross
The Reign of Quantity and the Signs of the Times
Symbols of Sacred Science
The Multiple States of the Being
These 6 books are considered to be the core of Guenon's metaphysics, but other books that are interesting of themselves are The Great Traid, The Esoterism of Dante, Metaphysical Principles of the Infinitisemal Calculus,Insights into Islamic Esoterism and Taoism, and his two books on initiation. Spiritual Authority and Temporal Power is necessary if you want understand how Guenon and Evola's thoughts differ.
>Any other recommendations for esoteric philosophers of this school of thought and illuminating insight would also be appreciated.
You mean other Traditionalists? Well, that depends on what you're interested in.
>Ananda Coomaraswamy
Wrote extensively on Hinduism, Buddhism, and art
>Frithjof Schuon
Considered to be the torchbearer of the Spohia Perennis after Guenon's passing. Though some anons criticize him for his syncretism. I haven't read any of his work, so I can't say for sure one way or the other.
>Titus Burkhardt
Wrote a lot on Islamic esoterism and art. He also wrote a book on alchemy which is pretty good.
>Jean Borella
His main focus was on Christianity.
>Marco Pallis
Has a few works on Buddhism. Also compiled an encyclopedia of comparative religion after decades of research which is pretty good.
>Martin Lings
Sufism
Other authors who aren't Traditionalists in name, but very greatly influenced by them
>Mircea Eliade
Wrote academic works on religion.
>Algis Uzdavinys
Mainly wroteon Neoplatonism and the Geco-Egyptian traditions
>Seyyed Hosein Nasr
Probably the world's leading scholar on Sufism. His claim to fame is he is the chiefe editor of the Study Qur'an.
Also, are there any modern esoteric authors of Evola's caliber?
I am also interested.
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03/22/19 (Fri) 19:52:12 No. 129533
>>129402
Thank you kindly, anon. With this list of scholars you've provided, I will have no shortage of useful study material for the foreseeable future.
It's too bad that there doesn't seem to be any contemporary esotericists who can measure up to the standards of Evola, compared to whom most other occult authors are mere dilettantes; perhaps it's a consequence of the further decline in the age of Kali Yuga. What a shame if the best that the current generation of occultists has to offer is Styxhexenhammer666!
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03/22/19 (Fri) 21:38:04 No. 129535
"Occultism" is reading books - The Thread
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03/23/19 (Sat) 22:11:02 No. 129560
>>129535
Something like that…
[Auric field pulsating intensifies with increasing knowledge]
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05/21/19 (Tue) 22:22:33 No. 131444
Can anybody upload an ebook or scan The Mask and Face of Contemporary Spiritualism? The book had a ridiculously short print run (not because of Jewish tricks this time) and I can't find a copy anywhere. I'm interested in his valid and crucial take of modern forms of spiritualism being outlets of escapism, and I was also surprised he held Crowley and Gurdjieff in a high or at least a positive regard and want to know more.
Here's the Arktos podcast review of the book.
>https://youtu.be/rw6G485JraM
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05/27/19 (Mon) 18:01:17 No. 131655
>>89508
in that it wasn't spiritual enough, which I guess can be associated with the right due to the tradition of religion. I recall a quote about how it tried to adorn itself with religion like a newly rich man does with culture. But it did it heavy handedly through the catholic church.
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