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File: d0e224c0ba6cced⋯.jpg (79.72 KB,375x500,3:4,fd8d41dfb3476980046103e69c….jpg)

 No.136240

I'd like to share a book with you all.

It is the core book of Falun Dafa entitled 'Zhuan Falun'. It talks about spiritual things from a scientific perspective. It talks about other dimensions, the soul, the cosmos in the microcosm and the macrocosm, supernatural abilities, karma, healing, the true history of mankind, transcending the 5 elements and leaving the 3 realms and many many other fascinating things.

It is a spiritual science of the highest order. I'll give you a copy and you can take a look if you like, totally up to you of course:

https://falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/Zhuan-Falun-2018-v1.9.pdf

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 No.136241

>>136240

Thank you for sharing, anon.

There is so much reading to be done that its gonna take me several lifetimes to get through it all, so books like these that try to condense a lot of things are a blessing.

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 No.136243

File: 945ae9b2837bda0⋯.pdf (1.71 MB,zfl_en.pdf)

Is this a good version? There is also a 1998 version which is translated by chinese practioneers.

I want to read the book but I have no idea which version I should read. Anyway, here is the other version. Maybe I should just read both, reading a good book only once is usually not enough anyway.

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 No.136244

File: c43c45010e6b8d9⋯.pdf (869.28 KB,ZF.pdf)

>>136243

Your copy there still has the replaced introduction page from 2015 so the translation isn't really from 1998.

>>136240

I'm still waiting to see an explanation for this. The book was to never ever be changed. I'll just leave this comment here so OP has a chance to give his view on this, it's been ignored and avoided and resulted in a change of topic every time I've asked about this. But I've lost trust in this movement and am frankly tired of this all so I'll just post this once:

<Why was the original introducation page (Lunyu) from the original version of the book, replaced with a new version in 2015? If the Fa (law) is perfect and must never change, how can you cut out and trash a page of it (as the instructions said on the website)? Or was that page faulty, and we've been studying a false law for 23 years before it was removed? What does that do to the credibility of the other parts of the book? Can those be taken as true or will those possibly also be replaced sometime? This sounds like it's all going down the path it wasn't supposed to, if you actually read what Li himself writes.

I've attached the original 1998 release version to this post and you can compare the intro page yourself.

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 No.136245

>>136244

I was in fact wondering what the fuck was up with the 2015 intro page. Thank you for posting the pure version.

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 No.136246

File: d575e586073fd6c⋯.pdf (1.59 MB,zfl_pdf.pdf)

>>136245

Here's the chinese version. Someone may want to read it in original.

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 No.136260

>>136246

What are the chances of anyone here being able to read Chinese?

What are the chances of such a person not being able to find the original on their own upon stumbling across this subject?

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 No.136261

>>136260

Considering that the topic is banned on the chinese web, some random firewall climber may stumble in here.

The unedited book in chinese also seems very hard to find anywhere online.

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 No.136325

File: 97fb5157a2b675e⋯.jpg (102.82 KB,680x382,340:191,UBd3IQqDH4JIdiLREHMVH7qOt1….jpg)

>>136304

>in relation to FG, may I ask if that's the case as well? Did you have results? I find it hard to find any credible reviews.

The main aspect of the Falun Dafa practice is the cultivation of character, this approach is what I've used to most success. Overall the teachings contain some valuable views, such as that of karma (ye) and virtue ("de", same as in "Dao de ying") as material substances. There are also some historical references and general things talked about which are good for awareness.

Now on to the actual review part:

The approach of aiming for virtue and getting rid of karma does work, it often comes down to making the right choices in your everyday life. In some way it can be said to make your life interesting and beyond mundane even in the most mundane settings if you are able to apply this approach.

When it comes to the exercises, this is the part where I feel things aren't all completely right. Everything comes down to the person's own understanding of course, this is mine. The exercises do work, but not in the way it is commonly understood among its practitioners. The Falun Gong movement, as in social movement has many problems. Some of this seems to be a result of the way it was spread, and to whom. I have so far only met 4 people who I can say for sure got good results and did well in the practice. The rest range from "meh" to the most common, downright drug addict level, but 100x worse. This last part is the reason for what is happening with this movement's followers in China, in my opinion. They're using the egregore as a large garbage can and fill it up with all their dirt, then when they do the exercises they all connect to it and fill their bodies with it. Now conveniently for those people, you are not supposed to talk about what abilities you have and if you can see things like this. So if you point out that someone is doing it wrong based on what you see on their bodies and in their energy, they will attack you for being a "heretic" or similar. So it's impossible within the movement to discuss the problems. It all comes down to

>do you not believe in Master?

with a threatening tone of voice implying they'll shun you and start drama in the mailing lists used to communicate nationally.

With that said, if you are able to perform the exercises in isolation and not connect them to the existing egregore of the movement you can do ok with them. But developing enough gong to form a pillar with these alone? Nah. The exercises work once you already have a gong pillar reaching at least to your head of your physical body. I did this by looking into northern tiger kung fu. After I felt confident with my own energy level I picked up the FG exercises again - with your gong already formed, the results can be very good. But picking someone off the street to practice this, it very rarely works the way it's done currently.

>The 5th exercise originates from a different entity entirely and Li himself says so.

>Does that mean you only do 4 exercises?

Rather is means you can safely do the 5th exercise as seperate without being accidentally connected with the egregore. As Li himself describes it, the sitting meditation is an independent cultivation system.

>pic related, the average person trying to practice falun gong

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 No.136348

>>136325

>cultivation of character

>aiming for virtue and getting rid of karma

Is that the compassion/tolerance/truthfulness part? Concerning that, I wanted to know if what you post sometimes is in accord to this. Like, lolis terrorizing humans, praying to slaughter entities, Liber Falxifer, etc. I think you get an idea why this looks strange when you also write about Falun Gong. Intuitively I get a vague understanding, but rationally I do not.

>Now conveniently for those people, you are not supposed to talk about what abilities you have and if you can see things like this. So if you point out that someone is doing it wrong based on what you see on their bodies and in their energy, they will attack you for being a "heretic" or similar.

Did you develop this ability due to FG?

>a gong pillar reaching at least to your head of your physical body

What exactly is that? I saw you writing about Gong itself in earlier threads but I don't recall anything like that.

What about developing a diamond body and health? Does this work successfully via FG?

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 No.136349

>>136348

>I wanted to know if what you post sometimes is in accord to this. Like, lolis terrorizing humans, praying to slaughter entities, Liber Falxifer, etc. I think you get an idea why this looks strange when you also write about Falun Gong. Intuitively I get a vague understanding, but rationally I do not.

Other people will not agree but they don't see what I see, obviously. Something being "evil" should be judged by its effects in the long run and for the person and those in interaction with them. Right? The conception of "goodness" referred to in FG and as it's said, in western religions and buddhism, all leads to the outmost evil. But if your perspective is narrow you're indeed creating a new universe and can live in there - for a while. Then you're back outside and the karma got tons worse, you'll have a literal hell handling that shit. But shortsighted "gods" don't know this, because time within a universe from the perception of its inhabitants is "eternal." Until it ends, which is a harsh awakening for them.

But it's enough to just look at what people do from a mundane view. Everyone in the FG movement keeps repeating

>it's not a cult, it's not a cult, we are not a cult, REEEE, the communist party is the real cult

But after experiencing things from the inside for a while I had too many WTF moments, and then I stumbled upon a government funded organization in my country. It was formed in the 80s and was working to help people escape from cults. It was mostly targeting christian and satanist cults. It's important to note here, that it was formed before FG was ever spread, so there was no secret conspiracy to work against FG in its founding. They had a list of signs and behaviours to look for to identify a cult, and I could just go

>check check check…

when comparing to FG. I wrote a letter to them about this but got no reply. This is how they react, they stick their head in the sand hoping any criticism will go away.

There are points made which are fairly correct such as how killing creates karma, and of course you'll get in fucking trouble in most places if you murder someone. But that doesn't mean it always has negative effects. There's a well known story of a taoist who was a butcher, and it's described how he knew the anatomy of the animals so well he could cut them up before they realized they were dead. It's told as a story of following the Dao, yet he killed large animals all his life. So the general understanding here clearly doesn't add up.

Human "good" is just an inversion of "evil", the common mundane has no clue what is really beneficial for their souls in the long run. Someone like Genghis Khan and his grandson Kublai, they slaughtered entire cities to conquer China, but in the end they also founded a more just society as a result. The chinese treated their farmers as slaves, their women as slaves. The mongols killed 15 mil in their first campaign and numerous more in the second one. Still the effects in the end were positive for people overall. Real hardheaded people won't change with less than that, so how will you judge "goodness"?

>Did you develop this ability due to FG?

I developed it from practicing the abilities. This was not guided by FG. Any practice where you work on your own energy will probably help tho.

>What exactly is that?

It's mentioned in ZF, I think there's artworks showing it too. It's just a formation of high level energy, when it reaches a certain density it forms a vortex rising up around your body.

>What about developing a diamond body and health? Does this work successfully via FG?

If you treat is as a method and internalize your understanding of it, maybe. But I can't tell what is the hen or the egg here, I'm merely filling in my lower parts, the top is already done since past lives, so it can't really fail. But FG does have legit stuff in it, you just have to watch out and not become a cultist zombie.

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 No.136351

>>136349

very well said especially the good and bad part. one of the final understandings of enlightenment is that there is no good or bad, what is good for you might be bad for someone else. once you have this understanding you love everything in the universe so much. you will love how everything just is. the murders the love its all the same. and on a even deeper level it is all just you doing it all.

added a video about the subject too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qj4wDM4nQ0&t=1s

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 No.136361

>>136348

>I wanted to know if what you post sometimes is in accord to this

I don't think it requires much of anything to understand that he doesn't follow falun dafa. If you want serious advice that's not "good and evil are the same thing!" or "what's good is actually really bad!", then understand that falun dafa is mostly just reading a book. And doing the 5 exercises, and spreading pamphlets.

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 No.136397

>>136325

I would expect Li himself to call out their karma garbage can, as teacher to students. Heck, even call out their social behaviour within the cult. He seems like that kind of guy…

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 No.136402

>>136397

I have reason to believe he either doesn't know that this is happening or that it's all a giant loosh farm.

Or, it's "because enlightenment." He's said before that students have to understand on their own or it won't count.

He has lectured them on trying to treat corona though. This shit is happening repeatedly, he said already in 1992 not to treat illnesses, yet the chinese can't comprehend the meaning of it and the westerners are just following along believing anything the chinese do is right because of chinese historical/cultural mindset being a mysterious vehicle to the true understanding of the universe no westerner can really grasp. Or something. I don't know.

It just looks like people are really dense when he has to come out and say this

http://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2020/7/8/185764.html

to stop some drama involving some alleged spy from Singapore shittalking in Japan (?) or the other one

http://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2020/3/20/183715.html

where it seems practitioners still are not getting it, that illnesses are created by karma and that you shouldn't try to treat other people. How hard is it to comprehend this? Idk what's up with this.

This instruction for how to start your own practice group also clearly states not to treat illnesses, and this one is from 1996. It feels like this should be common knowledge by now.

https://www.falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/dymf_2014.pdf

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 No.136434

>>136402

I see, thank you for your review.

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 No.136829

I've learned that one would have to learn the exercises from a teacher in your area. Can you confirm that or is it enough to learn on your own?

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 No.136834

The vids are fine, use the one on the website at

https://en.falundafa.org/falun-dafa-video-audio.html

along with the instructions in the Falun Gong book. I can't recommend meeting up with people as it is currently.

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