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 No.129439 [Last50 Posts]

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/bavK4 FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html Meguca: https://meguca.org/fringe Fringebay: http://fringebay.com/fringe

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 No.129441

Angry fedora here. What methods would you recommend to a materialist such as myself, to prove to them that the supernatural exists?

What I'd find particularly convincing is an accurate dream, vision, or prediction of a future event. It doesn't have to be anything particularly fancy. Say I had dream in which a person had a conversation with me, and a few days later I have the same (or a very similar) conversation with a person that resembles the one I saw in the dream.

It doesn't have to come to me in a dream, but an accurate prediction of a future event would be much harder to chalk up to suggestion or coincidence, compared to other occurrences.

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 No.129442

File: 18f5ff62480a733⋯.jpg (166.04 KB,566x596,283:298,court-jester-3.jpg)

I've been in contact with the jesters and talk to them. However, j am a Christian with an older tulpa I also talk with. I sometimes feel like I'm not supposed to be talking to my tulpa or the jesters. rn before I kill myself im writing a new book for the Bible that will tell of the jesters plans to save the planet. My question is this, is there anything fringe/occult that handles clowns/harlequins/jesters/fools/tricksters etc?

The Bible doesnt have a single "funny" character I've read ir front to back. Nobody ever wants to help me but I feel like I'm being told to do this.

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 No.129443

File: 003ba6747b7b381⋯.jpg (1.89 KB,334x80,167:40,1440640949595-0.jpg)

>>129440

P sure it was just this repeated but here's a link to the css and an archive from 2015

https://web.archive.org/web/20151127205015cs_/http://8ch.net/stylesheets/board/fringe.css

https://web.archive.org/web/20151127205951/8ch.net/fringe/index.html

>Is practicing better just reading a bunch of books?

Do both. Practice what you read so you can prove what works and whats bullshit

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 No.129447

>>129441

The idea of faith is very important. Often times a person needs to believe before they can see the proof themselves. That can sound a bit counter intuitive, but perception shapes our reality. If you believe your proof needs to come in a certain form you are actively putting out energy for those specific events. Those things could not actually be "compatible" with you even though you think they might be. That is to say that just because ypu think those things are the best proof you could be provided, that ia not necessarily true, and your belief in it begins to actively works against getting you your proof.

Know in your bones the "supernatural" is real, and that knowing will in time rise to your brain. Don't fight yourself, be so honest with yourself it feels like you've been cut open. You know it exists or you wouldn't be asking people to tell you how you can also know. Deep down you know it already, who gives a fuck if you can't "prove" it with your current knowledge.

I also highly recommend the books Liber Kaos and Liber Null & Psychonaut, by Peter J Carroll. He takes a non-dogmatic, scientific, and results oriented stance on magick. Liber Kaos starts with a chapter about quantum mechanics.

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 No.129453

>>129441

Go read some declassified Project Stargate documents. Read a whole bunch of them, not just the surface-level ones. There are tens of thousands of them.

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 No.129455

>>129453

No remote viewing report ever provided actionable information for any intelligence operation. This isn't going to prove anything.

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 No.129460

File: d985cc9151b8c56⋯.jpg (487.16 KB,1288x1286,644:643,jester.jpg)

Why did God make me a clown?

Why did he curse me with the jester?

What's the most /fringe/ method of suicide?

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 No.129461

>>129455

How many have you read?

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 No.129463

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

CIA niggers raid North Korean embassy in Madrid

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 No.129464

>>129463

Why are you always posting stuff that isn't related to /fringe/ and isn't questions in the /fringe/ question thread?

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 No.129465

>>129464

you're glowing

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 No.129466

>>129465

Not an argument you ring 3 peasant

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 No.129472

File: 63061d528600e8a⋯.jpg (1.35 MB,2952x5248,9:16,Di_Giorgio_performing_with….jpg)

File: 3214e30cae45356⋯.jpg (184.71 KB,615x480,41:32,Di_Giorgio_performing_with….jpg)

Mfw i have no idea if i´m projecting my will to surrounding world, or if i´m just interpreting and reading the world and people while letting it define me.

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 No.129473

does this guy frequent /fringe/ already?

https://twitter.com/Ivan_Milevskii

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 No.129476

>>129473

never heard of her

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 No.129506

>>129447

Sorry for my late response. Thanks for the book recommendations, I've started reading Liber Kaos and I like how it does not try to push for belief in any particular deities. A lot of other occult literature does this, and I find it very off-putting because I'd rather start with learning about the occult's practical applications, rather than reading theological speculation.

>>129453

What particular documents would you recommend?

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 No.129513

File: d57c54ad7568a34⋯.gif (1.68 MB,500x610,50:61,pink palace.gif)

I'll try to keep this short

>I have an interest in mythology

>aside from reading Hamilton's, "Mythology" I've never really read anything beyond short folklore "spooky stories"

>I end up going down wikipedia rabbit holes when I find a new thing, ex. "D is from C" so I click C, "C is from B", "B is from A"

It feels like I'm starting at the end of the story and trying to get to the front, or looking at things from beneath instead of an overhead view. Are there any comprehensive books that cover mythology/old religions/practices from their beginnings instead of just giving a few stories and mentioning where they're from?

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 No.129514

>>129513

That book is absolute crap.

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 No.129515

Is it true that occultism has roots in the Kabbalah?

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 No.129516

>>129514

How do you mean?

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 No.129517

Does anyone have this screencap of this anon recommending this list of 5 or 6 books that had a download link included? I used to have them, but I lost them. I'm sure those books are the sticky, but I can't remember specifically which ones they are.

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 No.129525

File: 7eefd938e0f3f2d⋯.jpeg (53.28 KB,480x872,60:109,B91B6FA0-580B-483D-ADF5-A….jpeg)

What are some theories or ideas that are so profound that they could lead to madness? How could I avoid them or study them safely?

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 No.129527

>>129525

99% of what you'll find here is either purposeful or unintentional disinformation.

How's that for profound?

Meditate on that.

http://eemeditationvideo.org/watch/swami-satchidanand-responds-to-jordan-peterson-on-the-logos-your-shadow-and-enlightenment_TWhELnvRwdOGrr4.html

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 No.129541

>>129455

I know for a fact this assertion is untrue.

Source: Personal. Fucking. Experience. Dig deeper.

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 No.129547

What's after death? I want to kill myself.

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 No.129552

Is was reading magikal use of thoughtforms and want to know how should succesful visualisation look like. Am i supposed to see visualised object like i see reality with my eyes?

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 No.129556

>>129547

So why are you asking just find out for yourself

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 No.129565

>>129556

Too scared.

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 No.129572

I accidentally posted a thread twice, the one on ancestor offerings. I posted it once and couldn't see it and was checking for about 2 or 3 minutes. Then once I posted it again I noticed that the prior one had posted as well around the same time I posted the second one. I didn't know there was sometimes a delay in how quick things appear. I will try not to do that again. I understand if someone wants to remove one of the duplicate threads I started but please preserve one of them in existence.

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 No.129577

i made a question thread by accidentlmao luckily it got deleted

what does /fringe/ think about heinrich agrippa

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 No.129582

/fringe/,

At this point I'm convinced there's negative entity/astral/demonic obsession going on in my home, and I'm in search of effective banishing techniques. Does anyone know of proper ways to deal with this?

Some phenomena include random bangings on my walls (only at night), footsteps, random flashes of light in my peripheral vision, hearing odd sounds from a distance. All these (with the exception of flashes of light) happen only at night, particularly in the altered state of consciousness the moment I fall asleep. I'm also under the belief it has to do with lust/abstaining from sexual activity; every time I abstain for a number of days, the above phenomena increase, to the point where I've had incredibly real dreams of being grabbed/attacked in my bed. This dream occurred about 8 days into abstaining from masturbation and I honestly could not tell if it was real or a dream. Phenomena occurred again last night preventing sleep and only managed to doze off after rhythmic breathing for about 20 minutes.

I may try another white sage blessing, but I have no idea if that does anything regarding banishment. I also own and read a small booklet "Prayers against the powers of darkness" released from the Catholic Church a couple years ago due to the rise in world demonic activity, but I haven't seen any results. I know it's tied to lust/sex in some way. Any advice would be extremely appreciated.

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 No.129585

File: 08a3140acb81eb2⋯.jpg (284.1 KB,613x803,613:803,memewatcher.jpg)

why have I been summoned to this place

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 No.129586

>>129585

I need you to tell me all you know about Anput.

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 No.129587

>>129586

you made up the word

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 No.129589

>>129586

oh. that anput,

anput is the subject of many graven images of hermaphrodite animorphic expression i.e. furry dickgirl porn but im sure you know all about that

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 No.129594

>>129589

Is that all you can tell me about the wife of Anubis? That's disappointing.

I need stuff that's not on the Internet.

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 No.129597

>>129552

Have you ever been lost on a daydream, or reading a book, conjuring up all the scenarios and characters in your head as if it was all a movie in your head? That's more or less how it should feel. You are not trying to see anything with your physical eyes, but with your "inner eye."

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 No.129598

File: 9ab51d20dd99518⋯.pdf (832.6 KB,John Kreiter - Vampire’s W….pdf)

>>129582

Resort to force?

I used to have a terrible attachment on me that would annoy me with painful feelings such as pins and needles all over my body and generally just shit on my mood for days on end. I tried every single banishing technique I knew and the thing was still gnawing on my body until I started to energetically attack it directly, just then it gave up on me.

pdf related. There are some gnostic undertones in the book but if you are not interested in that you can just make use of the techniques.

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 No.129600

>>129598

Thanks anon, I'll be going over that tonight.

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 No.129604

>>129547

You keep coming back till you find a better solution.

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 No.129606

>>129597

I'm not the other anon, but are you sure this is the right way to visualize for that sort of thing? This is the way I've always visualized, but I've never seemed to make any progress on the practical stuff mentioned in books like Magickal use of Thoughtforms or New Energy Ways.

Is there some other element to it that I'm missing?

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 No.129608

>>129565

Well don't sweat it you'll find out one day

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 No.129609

>>129606

It depends on the person. The goal of visualization is not to just be able to "see" your desire, but to serve as a catalyst in creating a kinesthetic feeling (emotion) in your body expressing your desire. You give power to your intent (and thoughtforms) this way, with your emotions.

For some people this comes naturally. If the usual techniques give you trouble, ignore the visualizations and for now focus on "feeling" your desire instead of trying to see it. Conceptualize it. Bask in this feeling. Get some tactile sensations going on even, affirmations help too.

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 No.129610

>>129598

gnostic4lyf

>>129606

For me using first person view made a huge difference. That and visualizing the situation and tuning my intention/vibration until the visualized scene takes life of its own and "snaps" into my desired outcome without forcing it.

>>129607

Don't post questions like that. Use this thread.

Experiment and use what works for you. Those materials you're mentioning didn't work for me, but other people can work with them just right. Find your style.

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 No.129613

>>129598

I liked this little book and decided to buy a couple from the author. Thanks anon.

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 No.129615

Anyone have the soul of the jester?

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 No.129618

>>129615

Not I, why?

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 No.129620

Hey fringe, im fairly new to occultism but I want to know what other peoples experiences are with occult magic, have any of you been successful performing magic and/or having mystical experiences, specifically stemming from the works of Solomon, like the Key/Grimoire of Solomon, 6th/7th Books of Moses, Magical Papyri etc,.

What have you managed to summon? what happens to you?

~cheers

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 No.129622

>>129439

How do I protect myself while learning ?

Parasites everywhere now that I understand that they're less common though.

The biggest mistake I made was to actually pray to god felt something strange (love and anxiety ?) and then pure fear and wanted to cry,felt dead tired when waking up is this really how "angels" are ?

So how do i tell them to fuck off to stop trying to control my thought and feed on me ?

I am just getting started…

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 No.129623

File: 8d9afe7ea1bad26⋯.mp4 (2.31 MB,676x404,169:101,pleas bird responsibles.mp4)

Yo fringe, I'm the new BO of /an/. Would it be alright if I incorporate some of your CSS elements into my board? I like the forest and mossy outline.

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 No.129624

>>129615

I swear I just played a prank on a black guy stop looking for me.

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 No.129625

>>129615

>>129624

Okay fine I admit it my 72-year old friend who knows numbers told me that his friend the Joker owns a clothing shop, that's all you're getting out of me until the man with the camera shows up to take a picture of me smoking cigars in a limousine.

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 No.129626

>>129625

You gotta know the airport by the place where we eat the things if you want to know more.

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 No.129627

File: 8aa977a09019297⋯.jpg (36.97 KB,512x384,4:3,1523574461346.jpg)

>>129626

>>129625

>>129624

Okay fine I admit it the man with a contract with Warner Bros pronounced my woman and I Ham and Burger as well as Peanut Butter and Jelly but that's IT I refuse to tell you more information.

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 No.129628

File: 91993acd8a0ea3a⋯.jpg (1.31 MB,3328x1872,16:9,IMG_20190325_232331 - Copy.jpg)

>>129627

>>129626

>>129625

>>129624

>>129615

Clearly you are a higher level magician than I, I hereby doxx myself in your honour.

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 No.129630

File: e8e0ba555906e82⋯.png (21.73 KB,419x152,419:152,ClipboardImage.png)

File: d3e90b371dbd48d⋯.png (691.74 KB,600x569,600:569,ClipboardImage.png)

>>129622

>22:22:22

>checked em cheksum

Meditate upon the fact that free will is both illusory and yet real.

Angels and dæmons are united in the fact that both are mere slaves. To be divine is to be the slave of Man.

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 No.129633

>>129622

Do the aura of protection to protect from anti-human parasites such as the "angels".

http://mirror.spiritualsatanism.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Protection.html

Use this mirror for now, the Joyofsatan site is down, but it should come back up in the future.

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 No.129634

>>129633

http://mirror.spiritualsatanism.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Aura_Cleaning.html

^^

Cleaning your aura of the negative psychic gunk you picked up by connecting to those parasites.

http://mirror.spiritualsatanism.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Satanic_Meditation.html

Then other meditations and important information is located here. Focus on the 'Beginning' and 'Information' section on the right for now.

You'll want to make the aura cleaning and aura of protection a daily practice.

This is a crucial chance. You have an opportunity now to bounce back from this attack and learn to protect yourself – or you'll be a victim and eventually a puppet on a string to these anti-human entities.

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 No.129636

>>129634

>>129633

>how do I get rid of astral parasites?

<oh that's easy, just follow the practices of a group known for giving themselves astral parasites

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 No.129637

File: d46765ee23bf0f7⋯.png (214.26 KB,602x415,602:415,ClipboardImage.png)

File: 03d92da5b8a7f1f⋯.jpg (38.82 KB,990x650,99:65,oxpecker.jpg)

>>129633

>>129634

>>129636

>parasite parasite parasite parasite par-

Here's a word you may want to introduce into your practice: "symbiote". While we're at it, let's add "commensalism" too.

Here's the mindscrew: Any practice that is not invented at the moment of implementation is feeding itself. *Any* practice. Anything as simple as a smudging ceremony where you burn incense and walk around the premises in a clockwise spiral is feeding several pre-existing thoughtforms.

That is okay. You are a pre-existing thoughtform, you like being fed. Being part of the ecosystem is good, you can let something ride your coat tails without freaking out if you learn to identify shiz.

Coexist. Even legitimate parasites can be reprogrammed if you have the knowledge.

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 No.129638

>>129637

Those whose practice has evolved to the point of true photosynthesis are welcome to disregard my message as they are more advanced than I. This is not hyperbole.

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 No.129639

>>129637

>everything is a thoughtform, so don't worry about the Joy of Satan egregore

I'm talking about something specific, anon. Do you think it would be a good idea for someone new to this stuff to mess with stuff like that? Do you think they "have the knowledge" to "reprogram" something like that?

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 No.129643

>>129634

>cleaning your aura of negative energy

>not eating that energy and transmuting it with predatory intent

>not expanding your lifespan and improving your health with free energy

SHAKINGMYHEADFAM.HUGHENERGY

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 No.129644

>>129623

Ofc anon, you didnt have to ask. Anything here is free for anyone to use. I believe smiley got the foresty outline from an old warcraft game if i recall correctly. This should be the current css btw if not ill update it asap.

https://8ch.net/fringe/css.html

Gl with your board

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 No.129650

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

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 No.129652

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 No.129653

>>129598

>not some bullshit book written by a charlatan

>actually really good

a rarity on this board. thanks.

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 No.129654

File: 5dfb42199a22561⋯.jpg (67.75 KB,405x720,9:16,ashlar.jpg)

Are there any real freemasons here (you know what I mean, higher than 33rd degree – i.e. the "not public knowledge" orders of freemasonry) willing to spill some secrets?

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 No.129658

>>129654

Yeah there's a ton of us that frequent this dead incel board willing to risk our lives spilling secrets. To start with, I can tell you Muhammad was actually a

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 No.129659

Is it possible to increase testosterone levels through meditation and visualization? For example if i just visualized and felt my nuts creating more testosterone?

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 No.129661

Is fringebay deaded?

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 No.129662

>>129661

Yes, it appears that Fringebay is down. I'm not sure if its completely dead, we can only hope it is not.

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 No.129665

>>129662

There's a secret password protected board

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 No.129669

File: 17151af72282dc2⋯.jpg (50.73 KB,230x230,1:1,HerbalMedicine.jpg)

Are there any herbs that block telepathy and psychic attack?

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 No.129676

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 No.129680

>>129598

I have a question about my experiences with some of these techniques. When I try to return my lost energy to myself from a bout of negative energy release, I feel all hot & sweaty and get some pretty serious anxiety. I am not quite capable of the reverse breathing, and I was trying this mostly while at work so most of my breathing was pretty standard, maybe a little deep.

I was thinking it might be an issue with my visualization. I was viewing myself eating the entity that caused my negative response, but thought that might not be returning the lost energy to me. Then I tried viewing it more like a cloud like the author suggested but still the same result.

I've never had a problem feeding from other people though. I've been doing that naturally my whole life.

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 No.129682

File: 10be27bfb3fc697⋯.png (116.34 KB,586x563,586:563,kreiter_transmutation.png)

File: 62930cbcf0c0b2e⋯.jpg (19.43 KB,350x252,25:18,life-drain_soul-stealer-by….jpg)

>>129680

Sounds like a problem with the transmutation process. You are taking in the energy but you may not be redirecting its intent so it becomes your food. I had an issue like this as well, and it would result on me feeling generally disturbed and "off" rather than energized in the end. The key is to overcome the ego association to energy and start seeing it as just energy.

With time, I personally adapted the process into something that made more sense to me. Rather than picturing myself swallowing up the entire negative charge, I think of something more akin to 'draining' the proverbial life-juice out of these negative energy clusters. (pic related?) which to me looks like a faint white, almost gray, neutral mist. The "predatory stance" the author talks about seems to be important as well.

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 No.129688

I was shilling New Thought to Christians by mentioning it was called Christian Science at one point and well like two days ago I found out there's actually something called Christian Science that is still a thing and has churches.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/5574-christian-science

How related is this to New Thought / William Walker Atkinson? Also would it be worth it for me to visit one of these churches if I ever get the opportunity?

I read this article and realize I basically believe and agree with most of what is Christian Science but feel it's being completely misinterpreted and misunderstood here.

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 No.129690

File: 4aeedd0652be98d⋯.pdf (398.72 KB,John Kreiter - Create a Se….pdf)

File: 563ab03767c7724⋯.pdf (516.59 KB,John Kreiter - Manifest We….pdf)

>>129682

only other books i found are here. wizardforums users are peasants who are unwilling to upload unless you trade for something they want. awfully greedy community.

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 No.129694

>>129690

>wizardforums users are peasants who are unwilling to upload

>what is library genesis?

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 No.129697

>>129694

and? i got these from there.

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 No.129710

I've been doing a concentration exercise one kind anon told me about (repeating mantram in my head) and often when I do it, I end up in a strange sort of hyper-realistic experience while the mantram is still going automatically underneath. Should I consider this failure at concentrating? I've done this without the mantram before by accident, sometimes I meet strange beings and talk to them. It's definitely not the same as letting my mind wander to the mundane retarded part.

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 No.129712

>>129659

Yes.

Also it wouldn't hurt to simultaneously increase testosterone in physical ways by exercise and diet, etc, as well.

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 No.129713

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>129710

This is very interesting. I'd say it's far from a failure. You should read up on hesychasm and the "Prayer of the Heart". It's a practice of the Orthodox monks that seems similar to what you're experiencing.

Look at the video at 4:16 . For around 2 minutes he details his experiences of the prayer of the hearth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesychasm#Theoria_(illumination)

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 No.129715

The board owner doesn't respond to my emails or talk to me at all. Why is that?

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 No.129719

File: 0fbaecb67b513f9⋯.jpg (106.31 KB,1024x1024,1:1,smiley.jpg)

This meme is the board owner!

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 No.129725

What are some books I should read relating to occult magick after the Kybalion?

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 No.129730

again asking if anyone has any experience working with spirits (maybe shamanism or Voodoo)? Or knowledge of hive minds?

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 No.129736

>>129725

The first part of Franz Bardon's Initiation into Hermetics is good for more theory. When he gets into the application of it, many get hung up on the first section, so with that I'd recommend Energy Work by Robert Bruce and also his book New Energy Ways v2. Once you get used to it those, try out the applied sections of Initiation into Hermetics. That is, of course, if you need help with any of it; you may find you don't. It's a very interpersonal process.

All of these should be in the library.

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 No.129737

>>129712

Have you done this before/have any tips? Otherwise I'm just gonna wing it.

I do exercise and eat well as is but my sex drive is near nonexistent

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 No.129739

>>129737

I haven't done it myself, no, but I can offer tips since everything involving visualization/energy work are generally all the same.

>1. Get comfy, lay down, low light and remove any disturbances. I'd probably wear loose pants for what you're trying to do here.

>2. Begin rhythmic breathing. Do this for awhile until you're completely relaxed. Keep your mind still as possible, at best just thinking of your breathing.

>3. Once completely relaxed, send your mental awareness to your testicles. Ensure you feel the slight vibrations/sensations there. When doing this, repeat in your mind that you're generating testosterone there. Visualize what it means to have high testosterone; imagine yourself having high testosterone, visualize it spreading across your body where it naturally needs to be and do what it naturally needs to do.

>May be beneficial to do this exercise focusing on your prostate and penis as well, along with the Root and Sacral chakra regions (Root is your taint area, Sacral is your stomach/lower stomach region).

>Repeat as much as you'd like.

Practice is key. Also, it wouldn't hurt to have your hormones checked out, just to rule out any physical issues on that end.

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 No.129741

File: e47b29dbb98cfe4⋯.jpg (240.88 KB,920x1029,920:1029,bodyweight-exercises.jpg)

my gift to you [redacted] the christcuck

btw are you excited about warcraft 3 reforged cumming out soon?

in the meantime cum on the popular WoW TBC server netherwing, make account @ https://atlantiss.eu/

download TBC client https://download.atlantiss.eu/tbc/torrent-tbc.html

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 No.129751

>>129739

Thanks man

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 No.129754

Are there any solid ideas surrounding the occult ramifications of abortion (that aren't assumptions I mean)?

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 No.129755

When you fuck up by accident, like in that monkey's paw story where they cause a relative to die just by asking for money, do you still gain bad karma?

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 No.129756

File: a41e758f915e3a3⋯.jpg (64.34 KB,646x600,323:300,girl-3.jpg)

Hey [redacted] DailyStormer is now advocating mass importation of Chinese women to Western countries as sex slaves and surrogate mothers for white men

https://dailystormer.name/number-of-americans-not-having-sex-reaches-all-time-high/

>Chairman Yang is aware of the birthrate problems. He knows numbers.

>Giving $1000 dollars a month to everyone can only get you so far until your country collapse under the weight of legumes.

>Instead of importing browns for the economy, we have to think smarter.

>We have to import high IQ and high fertility Oriental women.

>But the trick is to ask something of them in return. They’ll say yes because they love the West.

>We’ll require them to get pregnant with our babies. We’ll obviously use the eggs of the best white women, but the babies will grow in these Oriental women, and they’ll be nurtured by them with Chinese efficiency.

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 No.129759

>>129756

i hope sperglin and his incel fanbase never reproduce. dysgenic retards

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 No.129771

What is the general consensus on gnosticism? Been trying to go on a self improvement streak lately, I started with cold showers and a 90 day reboot period of NoFap, once the 90 days are up I plan on looking into semen transmutation. I've been looking to improve myself spiritually as well. Is gnosticism a meme or should I look more into it? As of now I just meditate at least once a day for ten minutes since I'm new to it but I haven't done any yoga or anything. I've already started trying to astral project as well

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 No.129772

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 No.129773

>>129772

If I was an npc I wouldn't bother looking for anything outside of materialism or the most popular religion. Give a useful answer or piss off

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 No.129778

File: 447644dbdbf338a⋯.pdf (466.44 KB,the-forbidden-religion.pdf)

>>129756

Damn I would take such a chinese cutie no doubt, but I wouldn't use some white womans eggs. The chinese cutie has her own eggs right? I prefer asian or half asian kids any day.

>>129771

Look into it, Gnosticism is one of the realest and best things that can happen to you. But beware, don't fall for nu-gnostic cuck bullshit. Dig deep and far into the past to uncover real Gnosticism. I'll drop a luziferian Gnostic pdf for you which I think is actually very good, even for beginners. NoFap is good, permanent celibacy is even better. Astral travel is one of the best skills you can master. You are on a good path indeed.

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 No.129779

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 No.129780

File: b1ae619f70038a8⋯.png (635.06 KB,1200x1090,120:109,ClipboardImage.png)

>oldurr ith beddurr

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 No.129782

>>129773

no particular consensus

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 No.129794

I have really bad tooth decay, how do I use thoughtforms to fix it?

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 No.129795

>>129794

create a thoughtform thatll send you to the dentist

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 No.129796

>>129795

I need to grow back my teeth strong, some enamel has come off. I'm so sick of life.

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 No.129799

File: af2a0c7f7783546⋯.png (29.42 KB,741x568,741:568,af2.png)

Not sure if the board owner blocked me on proton email. He doesn't respond or talk to me at all. How can I tell if he blocked me?!

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 No.129801

How tf am i supposed to desire something without wanting it?

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 No.129802

>>129796

>I'm so sick of life.

The material plane really does suck and is a tiresome burden. Fuck creation and fuck the demiurge.

>>129801

No idea, who the fuck told you that. If you desire, that means you also want. Desire is just a stronger form of wanting. How can you expect to properly desire, if you don't even want in the first place?

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 No.129806

What are the opinions of people here on U. G. Krishnamurti? Is one really expected to believe his assertion that all of the spiritual teachers, seers, and adepts of history were deluded con-men and there is no spirit, no Self, only the physical body?

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 No.129807

>>129806

>only the physical body

First time ever I hear about this. I am intrigued

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 No.129809

>>129799

he hasn't been active on youtube in like 3 weeks it seems so dont take it personal, hes probably doing irl shit

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 No.129810

File: a38fc611b5bb5a1⋯.jpeg (74.55 KB,1024x962,512:481,a38.jpeg)

>>129809

>doing irl shit

The board owner has grown up and left us!

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 No.129812

File: 82c9584d3b3d95a⋯.jpeg (27.93 KB,604x516,151:129,88f.jpeg)

>>129810

He responded back to me.

[samefag btw]

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 No.129813

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 No.129820

In the last month basically everyone around me got sick. Except me. I didn't get sick at all. All these people coughing and feverish all around me and I never had any symptoms.

I've felt like some big changes have happened in me lately. Feel like a different person, like my suffering has been lifted, and I've attained immunity to so many things.

Big insights and more. Feel I can rely on god, feel like I have broke through, and that I'm on the verge of transcendence or enlightenment of a higher degree than I have ever yet attained. Been doing a lot of yoga every single day and this has been making my whole body better and more receptive to a higher plane of consciousness.

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 No.129827

>>129806

The self is self-evident.

I'm not sure if you're just misunderstanding something he may have said or what the issue is.

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 No.129835

How can I tell if someone has cast a spell on me?

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 No.129838

>>129439

Is worshiping a deity a good idea ?

Is it just tricking the mind to make magic works or can some beings actually help me if I worship them?

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 No.129842

>>129835

a wizard is u!

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 No.129843

>>129838

It doesn't matter if it's a trick.

Make your own pantheon. Existing gods are templates. Fill out the templates as befits you. Form a "personal relationship with god" and define the gods as you wish to. Use old names or new ones, as you (and they) see fit.

Results speak for themselves, whether it's a trick of your mind or someone else's. Every faith is built on the ashes of its predecessors, your thoughts come from ancient faiths directly or indirectly anyway; you are a culmination of that which has influenced you.

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 No.129849

>>129843

Thank you !

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 No.129854

>>129849

thank you <3

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 No.129858

What happened to me?

Had the worst panic attack of my life, chest pains, pure dread.

Lying there helpless, I felt guided to focus on my breath.

Within moments, I lose all sense of my trembling self.

I feel like discovered a depth point in reality… Hard to describe. Like an alcove in reality.

Then wave after wave of bliss and the most tender feelings of compassion and kindness. Something formless and very old (in the sense it is always NOW, and never was not.)

What happened next, I have to maintain mostly silence on. But over an hour and a half, I was in the deepest state of mindfulness and zen. I literally felt like Christ. The presence I was projecting seemed to short-circuit the police, EMTs, nurses and doctors (my SO called 911 cause I mentioned chest pains.)

Everyone who interacted with me that morning was affected, somehow. Never saw police act like that, nor doctors.

But essentially… I learned so much about certain mysteries that day.

Was this my HGA? Was it spontaneous initiation (is that a thing?)

Whatever it was, it was the most profound thing I've ever experienced.

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 No.129860

cringe

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 No.129866

Actually, it was the first time since I was probably a kid that I gave no mind whatsoever to how I was being perceived. My internal monologue was silent and totally obedient.

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 No.129867

How can I defeat the snails? They suck my blood in their dreams.

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 No.129873

A little bit of a blog post but: I feel I was pretty stupid thinking so many of my problems would melt away after my initiation. Now I see that the challenges only increase in number and become more difficult. How niave of me. At least I have will and want to fix them now, even if I have no idea how to make that happen. It just takes so much time, my spirits tell me I need to have patience but I feel like I have had damn near enough patience. I just want things now. I can feel them but they escape me.

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 No.129939

Can someone redpill on A Course in Miracles? I'm reading it in order to feel better. Will it serve that purpose? I'm a little suspicious of it, and don't really believe it was written by Jesus.

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 No.129944

Anyone felt a disturbance on your aura that started maybe 3 days ago?

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 No.129955

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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 No.129959

>>129867

Eat them, frenchie.

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 No.129961

>>129858

I don't know what HGA or spontaneous initiation is, but my guess is you've probably had a spontaneous, full kundalini awakening or something really similar to it.

>>129867

fill a bathtub with water, throw a cup of salt in the water, Mix it up, and bathe in the salt bath. slimy mollusks hate salt.

>>129838

it absolutely is a good idea. People stick to gods from well known pantheons because they can get to know a baseline idea of them, and know that said gods are far from the types of gods who will give you some kind of some tragic monkey's-paw-type outcome because you asked for something selfish. IIRC, some anon whose family worshipped ishtar lost his uncle and gained his life insurance because he asked her for money.

Gods and godesses are conscious beings, just like you. They can be personal with you, like you're their child, and at the same time can do this with innumerable amounts of people- something far beyond the mortal ego's limits of empathy.

also, you are perfectly free to cross pantheons and worship different gods from different places. People have started fucking wars because their vision of god or deities isn't exactly like their neighbors, and it's really sad that it happened.

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 No.129963

Best self initiation book?

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 No.129964

File: b430b18a1b56283⋯.png (141.82 KB,764x744,191:186,green_pill.png)

>>129963

I started with the Kybalion. The FAQ (found here: >>>/fringe/faq.html) covers the first books to read. Additionally, the library can be found here: >>>/fringe/library.html Lastly, If you haven't gone through >>77411 yet, you should.

Anyone know where to find the Occult MEGA Library? My link seems to be dead. Did it actually get pulled? I never got around to downloading it, but now that I have the time and disk space, I can't find it. Many thanks in advance.

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 No.129965

>>129964

<formatting

FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html

Library: https://8ch.net/fringe/library.html

I need to stop posting at 2 AM

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 No.129966

>>129964

>Anyone know where to find the Occult MEGA Library?

It's dead but a copy can be found on the eye.

http://the-eye.eu/public/Books/Temple_Of_Solomon_The_King/

They're currently being sued for a huge sum of money by some butthurt masons for posting all their sekrit books in the open so get what you need, there's no telling how long this will be up either.

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 No.129967

>>129966

For more info and updates see their discord

https://discord.gg/u23hKgw

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 No.129968

>>129966

How do you sue a general? Also I hate how you can't download in bulk no more.

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 No.129969

hello, I'm not a regular on here but I've been having more success with magic and need advice.

Is there any way to deal with the tiredness and exhaustion that comes with working with magic or will it go away eventually?

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 No.129970

>>129969

Also, same person here, sorry.

Can anyone recommend exercises for training to use purely physical magic like fire, explosions or anyof the like?

Dont feel like its explained well in IIH

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 No.129982

>>129969

Physical exercise. Yoga, martial arts, running, dancing etc. I started yoga a few weeks ago doing it every morning, and it helps alot with both physical and mental discipline.

>>129970

I read of an anon who taught himself to levitate a copper ball between his hands, aswell as learning to take heat out of and put into the ball. He described it simply as "pulling energy into or out of it". Though he said heating it is more difficult than cooling it.

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 No.129990

>>129982

I already do a physically intensive sport twice a week, but thank you.

I guess I'll have to practice with that info + the info in IIH and I'll get back with results, if any

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 No.129992

Last night during meditation (new), I felt an uncomfortable pressure on the back of my head. It got so bad that I eventually shot my eyes open and a wave of feeling spread across my body. This started to happening after inwardly chanting "I seek the past, the present, and the future" many times. Is this normal or signs of some sort of blockage you guys are always speaking about?

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 No.130006

All bullshit occultists will get punished, Especiall those gnosticucks who worship Samael Aun Weor. Fucking imbeciles thinking they're so wise and special.

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 No.130011

>Is there any sort of mantra or book or ancient/modern work of literature which specifically prescribes rules and a guide to life for women in a similar way to the Bible or the Koran) that is not the Bible or the Koran or anything associated with Abrahamic religion?

I think maybe Theosophy might contain a few such guides? Also there's guides for humanity in general that can be applied to females in particular. Consider The Universal Master Key by Franz Bardon.

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 No.130012

>>129966

>They're currently being sued for a huge sum of money by some butthurt masons for posting all their sekrit books in the open so get what you need, there's no telling how long this will be up either.

I've always had a copy downloaded since years ago. I reckon this version might have some new stuff though?

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 No.130013

>>129992

Follow up, I tried serious meditation again, this time without any mantra. Instead of feeling the pressure on my head, I felt it in the center of my forehead.

I used to experiment with meditation and could spread vibrations across my body and control them, but during this past week, I’ve had no luck and I’m feeling oppressed by something. What do I do? What has changed ?

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 No.130022

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Anyone remember this board /elephants/? Before it got wiped, what was it? MK ultra? Actual cult? Weird larpers?

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 No.130024

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 No.130026

Is the Kybalion Jewish ?

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 No.130031

>>130026

And/or free masonry ? Is this a mason board?

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 No.130038

>>130031

>>130026

you'll never understand if you keep thinking within those parameters

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 No.130052

>>130026

No. It's a Hermetic work and tied to New Thought. It has absolutely nothing to do with anything concerning Judaism, not even remotely related.

>>130031

No ties to Freemasonry either.

Also this board is not a Freemason board. The board is a free speech board for all types to come and congregate here and discuss whatever they will. There are many different paradigms represented here.

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 No.130071

File: d942d80efecf7d6⋯.jpg (16.86 KB,1279x720,1279:720,black hole.jpg)

Have any of you ever tried to astral project into a black hole? What kind of secrets are these things hiding? Are these what Lord Shiva will use to destroy the manifested universe?

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 No.130072

>>130071

Actually I have. And it wasn't what I expected.

It's always dangerous to try to interpret things divined through occult means if you have no physical means for confirmation, but my experiences with projecting into black holes have led me to believe they don't actually exist as science describes them (at least mainstream science).

My personal unconfirmed gnosis is that black holes are actually some kind of stars, perhaps in an esoteric sense, and all stars (regular and black holes) are connected inside.

Make of it what you will.

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 No.130083

>>130072

Before there were planets, there were black planets.

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 No.130094

File: 26be8bcf3e77b99⋯.jpg (260.34 KB,2624x1439,2624:1439,brath.jpg)

I met a lady a few months ago and she told me that she got the impression that I wasn't filling my lungs appropriately, perhaps because I wasn't capable of taking in enough breath. I feel she was onto something because I have always felt that myself, like my nostrils or my pharynx/larynx are narrower than they should be, or that they are swollen and not enough air is allowed to enter into my lungs. For example, when I run I always feel like I have to make a lot of effort to breath in and breath out. I don't know if the situation is related, but I have trouble holding my breath when I swim. I always feel like I'm going to choke and I have to wear a nose clip so my brain doesn't 'freak out' and make me feel like I'm choking, causing me a lot of stress and making it really hard to hold my breath.

I was wondering if this sounds familiar to anybody, and if there are any specific breathing/pranayama exercises I should practice, or any books that I could check to learn more about this issue.

Thank you very much!

PS: don't know if this bullshit but I once had a regression session and one of the things I did in one past life was steal someone's girlfriend, the guy found out and he put me into a big box and threw it into the sea. Maybe I drowned in a previous life (or I acquired the trauma from this experience from the akashic records or whatever, for those of you who don't believe in reincarnation) , that could explain why I have so much trouble holding my breath underwater and why I panic when someone jumps on top of me and presses my chest down preventing me from breathing. My body enters a state of 'shock' where I kick and punch until I am able to breath again. I do most of that automatically, I have sometimes hurt people because I freak out when I can't breath,

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 No.130097

>>130083

Can you elaborate?

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 No.130103

So the faq says the following:

>The Master Formula of Attainment is as follows: “(1) … (5) Balanced Compensation.” Reduced to popular terms, it is as follows: “You may have anything you want, provided that you (1) … (5) are willing to pay the price of its attainment.”

Can someone elaborate on this part? When you use magic to obtain something, can you set the price, or predict it? I'm interested in this, but the idea of getting a monkey's paw scares me. Particularly the possibility of it affecting my loved ones.

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 No.130105

File: a1a45b932de5a4e⋯.jpg (143.72 KB,1024x762,512:381,a1a.jpg)

What happens when a woman&man have sex&the woman gets pregnant&she's still milking his cock by cocksucking and swallowing his cum because she's a swallower? What happens to the baby taking in all that cum? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BABY?!

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 No.130109

>>130103

Here's an example.

If you attain wealth, you attract false friends and the insincere, and all sorts of other problems unique to have too much wealth.

If you attain poverty, you are free from so many problems associated with wealth and possessions, but lose some security or suffer twice as much when sick or end up around degenerates potentially.

Likewise for NEET hermit vs socializing plenty, or being sick a lot and suffering very much leading to great wisdom vs having good health making it easier to believe half-truths than go the full distance.

Everything is compensated. Everything has its drawbacks. The key is to know what those are and be good at dealing with them. Everything comes with its own set of problems and some things are worth suffering more than others.

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 No.130110

>>130105

the semen is converted to glucose and the micronutrients are extracted, babby doesn't get direct semen

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 No.130112

Is it possible to become proficient enough at magic to shoot fireballs out of my hands? Or, can learned enough magician eventually grow to use the metaphysical to directly affect the physical?

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 No.130116

>>130052

Thanks, I see how dumb these questions are after some study.

>>129439

What are your thoughts on consuming meat of cows? I've always had an affinity for them personally.

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 No.130125

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nu molynu

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 No.130131

>>130125

Please keep your politic-related posts in /pol/

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 No.130132

>>130112

>Is it possible to become proficient enough at magic to shoot fireballs out of my hands?

Yes

>Or, can learned enough magician eventually grow to use the metaphysical to directly affect the physical?

Yes

Read about internal martial arts (baghua, anything that ends in 'gong' or 'kung')

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 No.130133

>>130097

I honestly wish I could. Stuff happens in darkness as much as in light is my shitty personal understanding.

I'm guessing it has to do with a view of the world in which the alogos comes before the logos. A black hole being the center of the universe, not a star. Being black in colour makes it harder to see in a universe filled with darkness, which is why it would be more sensible to assume that all stems from light and not darkness. It's your prerogative to choose where stuff comes from but yaddayadda, you already know that. In any case, language is often so limited and the duality of things so vapid that one just talks in circles most of the time. It has to do with the Qliphoth as far as I know.

Out of the dark that covers me,

Black as the pit from pole to pole,

I thank whatever gods may be,

For my unconquerable soul.

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 No.130134

I've been hearing about servitors around here for a long while, but how would one create such a thing?

Its purpose would be to help with work or study.

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 No.130136

>>130134

>>129814

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 No.130139

>>130136

I know about tulpas, but they are a bit too permanent for my liking.

Form what I understand, a servitor is something you use and then dismantle.

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 No.130142

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 No.130144

>>130142

Thanks, I guess I should have read the thread first.

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 No.130146

File: 713311a28231688⋯.jpg (41.7 KB,210x240,7:8,pegasus.jpg)

So William Walker Atkinson's books on mind reading, provided by the /fringe/ library, seem to mostly be about crowd shows. It involves one person sending out information, and another picking it up. Can this be scaled further into reading someone's mind, even if they're a stranger, and aren't trying to send you the information? For example, he shows how to have an assistant see what card someone picked, and have him/her telepathically message it to you. How would I go about cutting out the middleman, and know what card it is?

tl;dr how 2 become pic related?

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 No.130147

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New UK law: Up to 15 years jail for watching terrorist content

>It will be an offence to view terrorist material online just once – and could incur a prison sentence of up to 15 years – under new UK laws.

>The Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill was granted Royal Assent yesterday, updating a previous Act and bringing new powers to law enforcement to tackle terrorism.

>But a controversial inclusion was to update the offence of obtaining information "likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism" so that it now covers viewing or streaming content online.

>The rules as passed into law are also a tightening of proposals that had already been criticised by human rights groups and the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, Max Hill.

>Originally, the proposal had been to make it an offence for someone to view material three or more times – but the three strikes idea has been dropped from the final Act.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/02/13/uk_counter_terror_act_royal_assent/

>Viewing terrorist propaganda online in the UK could now land you in jail - under a new law that's just come into force. Government says the new measure is aimed at preventing terror attacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptNN5MEhioI

First they lock up the guy exposing the criminals who run our governments (and threaten to extradite him to a US supermax gulag for life), and now they've passed a law where you will get 15 years in jail for viewing anything online (whether accidental or intentional) the UK government arbitrarily deems to be "terrorist material."

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 No.130148

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WikiLeaks revelations: War crimes, mass surveillance and corruption

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 No.130149

>>130144

It's ok!

Good luck!

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 No.130151

>>129690

Anyone has "Create a Servitor Companion" of John Kreiter?

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 No.130156

>>129939

I think I listened to that in audiobook form and then wrote a negative review about it. If it what I think it was…

Can you link me to what you're reading/listening to for me to confirm?

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 No.130157

>>129961

I worship Hitler (or my idea of him) as a kind of deity-like figure that embodies my aspirations and highest ideals.

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 No.130161

What are gods and how do they relate to platonic forms?

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 No.130162

>>129969

>Is there any way to deal with the tiredness and exhaustion that comes with working with magic or will it go away eventually?

I've been at this for over a half decade.

I wish I knew a way. The best I can manage is to cut back on practice and try to create lots of positive social experiences and do a lot of gentle stretching and exercise and wait for strength of mind to return.

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 No.130164

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>>129990

Something you really ought to do is correct all asymmetries and posture issues. This alone gives you insane amounts of energy.

You can do this by getting weights and holding them in various isometric poses and seeing if any limbs are weaker than the others, making sure you can do about even the number of pulling moves as pushing moves for every kind of exercise, planking (back, front, and sides) for about even times, and visiting a chiropractor as well to get things even better. Also stretches of all sorts. You should hold every stretch for about 3 minutes, not shorter or longer. Also you should ALWAYS warm up before stretching (I got some injuries from doing stretches in the cold winter while not warmed up that I am still trying to get rid of today).

I've been spending literally hundreds of dollars in the last few months to get all this done and it's giving me mad results in terms of mental clarity though I have some seriously out of line bodyparts that are taking a lot of work to get back in place.

Check out Shaolink monk training like vid related: https://www.youtube.com/user/ShifuYanLei

I ran into this guy a few months ago while searching iron body training and he's got so many good videos.

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 No.130181

>>130071

A supplementary view to stimulate fringe science: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2019/04/10/black-heart/

>>130146

Atkinson is not a reliable source. If you're interested in mind to mind communication or imposition of ideas, try Bardon, or get creative with Kreiter's energy paradigm.

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 No.130182

>>130161

It's complicated, and the answer changes depending on what "level" you're on. Because from an archetypal perspective, multiple gods can share the same being. Think of it as having three layers: top is Forms, the middle is the Astral, and the bottom is the physical world. The Forms are unchanging, but project an image of themselves downwards. The physical world is always changing, and only has any structure because it is permeated with the forms. The Astral is certainly an oversimplification, because it contains multiple aspects, but see it as a middle-ground. It is imbued by forms and the physical, but it can also have a causative affect on the physical. The forms will naturally influence the Astral, but the physical typically takes more work, often a conscious effort. A big part of magic is trying to influence the Astral, so that the Astral will come back down and influence the physical in the way you desire. This is also the realm where consciousness lies. Now, moving on to deities themselves. Gods exist permanently as Forms. They seem to exist in the mental-level of the Astral as well; thus, the archetypes. Existence in the physical world is optional for them. Typically it's not necessary for them to come down riding a white horse, so they often just influence synchronistically (that is, a-causal causation). During major events in history, you can have thousands of gods all fighting at once.

I'm oversimplifying heavily, but this should give a basic cosmological framework to work in. I spent about a year going bananas over not having a proper esoteric cosmology, so I understand how important it is. (pro-tip: /fringe/ is fucking retarded, and can't answer even the most basic of philosophical questions) If you're unsatisfied with this answer, then I would highly recommend studying Plotinus.

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 No.130187

>>130094

that's called asthma

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 No.130188

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>>130094

Seneca the Younger I think might have had the same problem as you.

I also had problems with breathing for many years but, very slowly over a period of years, fixed it through constantly forcing myself to breath through the nose, keeping tongue at the top of the inside of the mouth, and energy work (see Robert Bruce) type exercises, and removing some teeth to reduce overcrowding.

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 No.130191

File: 9f62b114cb41529⋯.jpg (70.49 KB,1200x630,40:21,60_0105_Kim.jpg)

>The best way to communicate privately is inside of video games. Gaming software is still largely untouched by spy agencies and almost every game has their own player chat implementation. Now you know why I play a lot of video games

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1117308086362890241

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 No.130192

File: b90b7e4a1af0240⋯.pdf (3.78 MB,A Course in Miracles Spark….pdf)

>>130156

Here's the version of ACIM that I'm reading.

An epub is here https://archive.org/details/ACourseInMiraclesSparklyEdition

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 No.130194

>>130112

My experience with a few dozen occultists has been: Yes, with the caveat that fire is one of the most difficult elements to control. There are a few explanations for this, I tend towards the explanation that it's difficult because we expect it to be out of reach (the common advice for magic is to start small for a reason).

In my circles we call this family of schools "kinetics" (elemental manipulation). I am the anon >>129982 mentioned, I've also moved rocks with [kinetics] before; my experience has been that pure elements (as opposed to microcrystalline quartz i.e. common rocks) are easier to manipulate. My "record" was a fist-sized piece of green calcite approximately one foot from hand to hand. I'm out of practice with this technique however because I came to the conclusion it was no more than a party trick (and one that mundanes can easily explain away). I'd call this earth manipulation. As the linked comment mentioned, I found it more difficult to heat the copper than to cool it (though I could get it to a decent grade above body temperature with relative ease).

Air has been the most simple element to manipulate. "Cloudbursting" as seen in the movie "men who stare at goats" is a pretty straightforward practice that blends air/water, one can also change the shape of clouds with relative ease (i.e. taking a blobby cloud and stretching it out into the shape of dragon). The unconscious mind plays a large role in this, it's easier to make "a shape" and use it in a divinatory practice (seeing into the unconscious mind) than to go for a predetermined shape. Kicking up small cyclones of wind (think DBZ powerup sequence) is so easy that it happens naturally, I am akin to explain this as the opposite of fire manipulation – It's so easy to explain away as something else that it's easy to do for yourself, whereas a flame out of thin air cannot be explained away and so requires great discipline and self-assurance.

Pure water manipulation I haven't even attempted, I'm not sure how one would gauge an attempt to begin with, suggested experiments I may take underway however. For what it's worth I do trace a specific sigil every time I pour water from the kettle for tea using the stream of water, that's about the closest I come.

I take a very unstructured approach to my practice with very little (physical) notes, basically I get an idea in my head and will stick with it for however long it takes. With the copper balls, I started with one in each hand and spent about 8 hours working with them in various ways before I found the "psychic muscle" so to speak that I had to focus to move them. I also was able to move one from on top of a table with my hand under the table in a "cup" shape.

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 No.130195

>>130194

>>130112

The best exercise for direct fire manipulation that I have been taught directly is what is known as "tickling the flames". With a burning fire (larger is better, though a candle flame can be used; my best success was with a fire whose dimensions were approximately 2.5ft square and 1.3ft tall), use your hand palm up and wiggle your fingers while evoking a mental connection to the fire. There are a few hand gestures associated with this that are difficult to describe through text, however the general sense is to imagine that there are strings you are manipulating that connect to the fire.

For example: To grow a candle flame higher, pinch your index finger and thumb together as though you are grabbing the flame by the tip, then pull upwards in a smooth straight line, repeating this motion as desired. I have grown a single candle flame (that rested at a height of about one inch tall) to five inches using this method.

You may fall upon your own hand gestures that work, experimentation is best. I was taught hands-on so my motions mimic my teacher's, I imagine someone learning independently would have success with whatever resonates to them, rather than something dictated online.

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 No.130196

>>130195

I have on ONE occasion lit my pipe (tobacco) using Will alone. It was the one time I thought about it the least, every other time (out of well over a thousand attempts, some a few seconds long and some over an hour) I failed. The one time I succeeded was where I took a drag on it expecting it to lit, forgetting I had not lit it yet. Every time I "tried", I failed. The success happened when I simply expected it. I have not duplicated this success (I also stopped trying, it was a frustrating exercise).

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 No.130197

>>130196

>>130195

>>130194

This last part is intuitive and as such difficult to explain, I will do my best.

Every element has a "personality" of sorts, a mentality you have to get into in order to manipulate it. This segues into an alternative explanation for why some elements are easier than others, the element whose personality you most share is the one with whom you will have the easiest time working. So it could well be true that I find Air easiest to work with because I am an "Air" person. Of course, nothing is purely one element (and I have not touched on aether), and one's elemental associations will depend on one's education (for example, copper is primarily of the Earth element however many (myself included) associate it with Fire as well. Telekinetic work for me involves an association with Air because it is moving through it, however I imagine someone could completely ignore the Air factor and manipulate purely the Earth, the (physical) air would move out of the way inherently).

Fire has a consuming personality, it demands respect for its heat and it demands a strong Will to work with. Even as I type this, I lit a candle to practice because it had been some time and it is stubborn, barely reaching over two inches in height. The explanation is simple: My attention is divided (between this post unfinished and manipulating the flame) and fire demands ALL of your attention. It feasts on your attention just as it feasts on its physical fuel. Demanding respect is more difficult to explain and so I hope it is intuitive; suffice to say that when I was working with the large flame I mentioned previously, I burnt my hands at one point when I began to think of myself as the flame's "master". There is no mastering the flame, it is its own master. You simply work alongside it to "dance" together.

I hope some bit of this has helped a few in their path's journey.

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 No.130198

One last piece of advice to All who practice, completely disconnected from my above kinetics work:

Less is more when spoken verbally. Hone your telepathic abilities and recognize that your internal monologue has multiple voices, tune in to your own voice and recognize the plurality.

There is no need to keep secrets from those who are initiated, however you will learn who is initiated (and in what, and how far) through the telepathic voices you hear. Verbalizing everything is a keen way to invite a skeptomancer into your domain who will seek to undermine you. It also is a great way to get diagnosed with a mental illness. Play your cards close to the vest. We hide our full selves out of necessity, not desire; most who steal power (that is, use their inherent power to dam your abilities) do so without knowing that is what they are doing because they are not even neophytes. Many initiates call these people "muggles" but the truth is: There are no muggles. By putting this much information out so plainly, I invite the attention of ALL who read it – The psychic energy of those who Know, those who Want to Believe, those who "Wish it were true" and those who are plotting a way to prove me wrong. That is a heavy amount of energy to weave, and why I encourage all newly initiated ('neophytes") to practice caution in who they speak to about their practice. For every one I speak to who needs to hear a piece of this, there are a half-dozen who will hear and not believe and another half-dozen who will hear of it secondhand from one who does believe (and that is still one of my karmas to share).

Let me end by saying two more things: Since I have ceased speaking openly of my practice to the majority, I have had more strangers recognize my power unprovoked. When you are truly strong, Gifted people will seek you out without knowing. The ungifted will as well, though they will likely only need a sentence or two of your wisdom (cultivate the virtue of Prudence, I beg you). The last-last bit of advice is one you likely have already heard, a caution too late to be shared for you already have witnessed it. The path of the magi is a lonesome one at many times. Imagine what you learn to be a great urn filled with water, and what others carry to fill from that urn are small chalices. You will want to fill everyone's cup up from your own, for you will find it overbrimming with water; this is simply not possible, as the vessel they are bringing to be filled cannot hold all that is in your own. Sometimes (often, it may seem) only a few drops from yours will be all it takes to fill theirs. Often, all they are looking for is affirmation that indeed, their cup holds water! And many, many will come to fill your urn with yet more water. And so your great urn grows, and with it, the burden you must carry. Or so it may feel.

There are others out there who are as thirsty as you are, however, and when you meet them, oh what a joy it will be to trade water with them. And how thirsty for their water you will find you were as you trade forth (the virtue of Temperance; view the tarot symbolically and learn from it, you need not cast it yourself to take its wisdom in).

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 No.130199

>>130196

I like your style anon. Have you ever tried doing it without physically moving your muscles, as in just visualising/feeling the doing of it?

>and one that mundanes can easily explain away)

Whenever I talk to my "normie" friends about the mysteries of life they're able to discard it immediately by either ignoring it, looking at me with a blank face, or saying something like "yeah well you know science is complicated, maths physics yaddayadda I learn about this in university". And every time it happens I am reminded of the bible verse "they will look but will not see, they will listen but will not hear". I talked to a physics student friend about basically "it's all electromagnetism" more complicated I know and he asks me "does the body have an electromagnetic field" and I say "yeah, infact the heart has a stronger field of radiation than the brain" and he literally goes "oh yeah I learn about that in class, it's sort of pine-cone shaped". But if I suggest that you can manipulate these things by sheer will they always flee to their psionics-argument of "hurr durr you're not a particle accelerator". That same fucking friend I love him tho has a grandmother who finds points of pain in the body through pendulum divination. I ask him how good her success rate is and he says "100%" and immediately goes back to something completely unrelated as if his brain can't handle it or just forgets it. Do I just smile silently by the wayside as the kybalion suggests? Even though I know they witness the same synchronicities that I do even if less frequently? I don't want to use or force them into anything, but they can be really fucking emotional, which, to my "practical" mind, means that they could do amazing things if only they knew how to channel it.

>>130197

>because I am an "Air" person

Are you aquarius/gemini/libra as a zodiac because those are afaik the "air signs". I am an air sign and I do experience the "kicking up cyclones of wind" naturally. I also love OutKast's Aquemini lel and they have without a doubt some of the freshest music there is.

>>130197

>I hope some bit of this has helped a few in their path's journey

Bless you anon.

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 No.130200

File: 7a639010dfe59cf⋯.png (527.36 KB,650x560,65:56,Scientism 008.png)

>>130198

I salute you kineticsanon.

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 No.130202

>>130199

>I like your style anon.

Thank you.

>Have you ever tried doing it without physically moving your muscles, as in just visualising/feeling the doing of it?

I have, to great success with candle flames and small fires. As far as my pipe is concerned (it was a mission for me, for at least a year), I tried everything I could think of, from pantomining the action of lighting it to sucking stubbornly for an hour and everything in between. I eventually decided on "it will be easier one day" and tabled the matter. Of late I've tabled most of my practices because they were parlor tricks for my own amusement, I've instead been focusing my energies on manifesting likeminded people (which of course will make everything easier because a supportive environment is one in which it is easier to grow; the less of my energy devoted to straining against doubters the better).

I've succeeded in the default dream of most novice magi and converted a summoned "succubus" into a physical girlfriend who supports and believes in my practice fully (in her own way), which is a major note of triumph for me. She calls me a prophet :)

>Whenever I talk to my "normie" friends about the mysteries of life they're able to discard it immediately

>"they will look but will not see, they will listen but will not hear"

Yes yes yes. This is what I addressed in my last post, which came through four seconds before your own. The sciences historically were how we came to know the divine and understand the glory of the universe. A related verse that comes to mind is "and I will send them a famine of the Lord's word" (paraphrased). They seek to explain it rather than appreciate it for the miracle it is, even the explanation furthers the miracle.

>electromagnetics

This is actually the explanation I used for the copper ball trick. One thing I noticed made a HUGE difference is simply an inch or two of elevation of one hand, and I imagine this has to do with polarity.

I know there are those who have levitated huge stones over one foot in diameter and I would love to study their techniques. I'm told that I have levitated myself several feet in the air, however I was so deep in trance that I was not a witness to it myself (the person who found me started shaking me awake LOL).

>he says "100%" and immediately goes back to something completely unrelated as if his brain can't handle it or just forgets it.

This may be a bit too much for this short of a post however: Have you considered that you are not yet ready for a world in which he is a believer as well? You may be "selecting" your reality unconsciously because you have entrenched him in your mind as a doubter. Biblical passages of forgiveness come to mind. I speak from experience though I would rather not go into detail.

Also: Entities of many kinds can take on the appearances of those you know. It may be your own faith (in others) that is under trial. This I cannot go into detail on specifically, simply that I have encountered entities under the guise of friends and family that do not fit any classification I know of paranatural beings (a close friend appeared to me and called attention to the fact that he did not cast a shadow, this being the best example I can describe cleanly).

>Do I just smile silently by the wayside

Physically, yes. Mentally, engage them as I suggested >>130198 using it as practice for your telepathic abilities. Repeatedly hail them (PURELY MENTALLY) and request a verification that they hear you. Do this repeatedly until they validate it physically/verbally and repeatedly (MENTALLY) ask for clarification. Bear in mind it's much like a radio signal, they will likely respond to the hails in vague manners that make you question what is going on. Bear in mind that all of us are simultaneously incarnate on multiple planes in varying states of synchronicity with ourselves. This hailing practice is also helping YOU synchronize with yourself. It is possible to have entire mental conversations with other people, which they may not acknowledge on a physical level. These are still real. In essence what you are engaging in is your "higher self" communicating with their "higher self" while their "lower self" is out of touch with the higher self. These conversations will still bear fruit over time, sometimes in surprising ways.

>Are you aquarius

Five planets in the sign of.

>Bless you

And you as well.

>>130200

o/

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 No.130203

hey [redacted] when was the last time u used ur huion h610 pro

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 No.130205

File: 7706d5755b8232d⋯.png (32.22 KB,1172x675,1172:675,1494049113812.png)

I think this board owner is really hot!

You know what I mean?!

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 No.130206

File: 6753498d15deba2⋯.jpg (301.19 KB,1000x800,5:4,1497316656927.jpg)

>>130205

>really hot

No homo btw! I am not a gay homosexual man like that! I am a straight man! I just admire this board owners beauty!

Truly.

I am not gay!

Yep!

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 No.130208

>>130206

It's like you're trying to get shared on r/4chan.

~E p y c [redacted] W y n n

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 No.130209

>>130208

fuck off retard

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 No.130214

Hey fringe. Does anyone have the original text of the kybalion? The kybalion by the three initiates seems to be a dissertation on the text which it quotes but I can't find it anywhere.

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 No.130222

>>129966

Thanks. That's a shame it's been shoah'd.

>>130214

Some anon on fringebay claims its based on The Virgin of the World

of Hermes. English translation: http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/vow/index.htm

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 No.130223

I feel like the more I delve into the esoteric the more I'm naturally becoming a hermit. Have any of you dealt with this?

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 No.130228

>>129439

So I am getting bombarded by synchronicity

I am seeing the same numbers again and again….

When I watch TV, when I see what hour it is…

I am seeing the same numbers 3 time in 5 minute , everyday .

it's pretty Scarry (aggressive too) and frustrating since I don't understand their meaning!

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 No.130230

>>130228

Dream interpretation might be helpful.

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 No.130231

>>130223

Because it pretty much requires it

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 No.130235

I've been having wet dreams every couple months or so for a while now, does anyone have any advice for simple ways to make use of sexual energy to prevent this?

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 No.130236

>>130235

what exactly is a wet dream? is it just sexual dreams that can involve orgasm or is this specific to male ejaculation only?

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 No.130239

>>130236

Wet if you ejaculate afaik because you wet your bed. I've heard women refer to wet dreams also when they ejaculate in their sleep. If you don't I guess it's just a sexual dream.

>>130235

Learn about chakras. The sacral chakra, orange, has to do with sexuality and creation. Fapping more might help because you're discharging your balls. Alternatively you could try to think of some specific goal before sleep and relate that to sexuality. The thinking alone helps already, but the sexual energy usually makes it much more powerful. Combined with the immense power of the subconscious you can probably get wonderful results. If you're just trying to prevent wet dreams you might want to do shadow work if it has to do with some repressed unintegrated aspect of your sexuality.

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 No.130240

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

In a computerized civilization, encryption is the fundamental building block of liberty.

Julian Assange

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 No.130241

File: 3106489228f4e7a⋯.gif (6.49 KB,399x399,1:1,s.gif)

This symbol has been used all over the world for as long as we know (official earliest dates go as far back as 6,000 BCE). The mainstream says it's a symbol of good luck and perfection, which it might as well be, and after the 1930s a symbol of hate and terror.

But something this old just doesn't keep itself alive like that. Where does this symbol come from? What does it really mean?

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 No.130242

>>130230

Thanks

I am struggling to remember my dreams though.

Lucid dreams maybe ? Had one three days ago but it's not like I had much control.

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 No.130249

>>130242

Okay here are some tips. I used to have only maybe 1 dream per night or maybe no dreams at all for a couple days. Here is what helps the most for me and others.

1.Semen retention

2. avoid caffeine/weed/alcohol/any other drugs

3. meditation

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 No.130250

File: e795d4f6e301381⋯.png (2.05 MB,1098x1182,183:197,58389D47-6B68-4385-AC51-98….png)

This may be an extremely retarded LARP question, but how do I become a lich in real life? How do I make a phylactery? Do I need to be extremely powerful or rich with access to extreme means of blood sacrifice like the rumors tied to Soros and the like, or do I just need profound knowledge in magic? Do I need to keep my virginity until I’m 30 like the jokes say? Do I have to follow necromancy and deal with the dangers and complications with it or can I go through other means? I just want to go from a mere mortal autist to a magic skeleton megasperg and study magic and occultism by myself for eternity.

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 No.130251

>>130241

Ancient memetics. It’s like the deal with the S that everybody drew in elementary school but didn’t know where it came from, only that it looked cool. The unsettling thing is that both the Swastika and “S” could be hypersigils for some powerful deity, group, or individual and nobody knows who they belong to or how powerful they are, alive or dead.

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 No.130252

I’m reading Evola’s Hermetic Tradition and holy heck it’s not making sense. I’ve never read a book and not comprehended it. I’m not completely new to Evola but every chapter so far seems to repeat itself but each is different still. Plus I’m having trouble casually remembering the symbols and their 30 double meanings. I’m not heckling, can anyone offer advice? Also hermeticism is giving me the willies.

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 No.130253

>>130252

>>130252

Furthermore, it’s presentation seems very foreign to me as someone who more typically venerates north man spiritualism despite knowing that there are many universal themes at play within that spiritualism. This contributes to said willies. Also inherent distrust in masons and other apron wearing types.

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 No.130254

>>130252

Sounds like esoterica for esoterica's sake

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 No.130255

>>130254

Are you suggesting I’m approaching this superficially? I don’t think so, I’m not that edgy and the stuff makes me a bit nervous. Ever since I was a young lad I’ve felt the inward pull in the waking world and dreams. My faith has only grown with age, but I can’t define the inclination or put a finger on the waves of feeling. It’s esoterica for refinements sake, I’m just confused by the academic approach which is frustrating because that’s much of what I know.

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 No.130256

I'd like to have some tips and ideas for greenpilling a semi-normie. Begginer to intermediate level, please. tyhgyzrhkkk (so I can find this post again)

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 No.130257

>>130255

I've felt the pull too. If you are trying to figure what it is, maybe you should do some meditation on the Self? Have you considered that the pull is toward a part of your Self? Have you tried to let this speak to/through you? You are seeking knowledge that resides within from without. I imagine finding the answer this way is possible though

>>130256

I would advise to not try to push someone else into this. If they are ready for it, they will come to it on their own. That said, there are "exceptions". You could test the waters with something like "do you believe in ghosts" type stuff. If they have had "paranormal" experiences and have a firm belief in them, and a desire to know more, then I'd say go for it, but slowly. Remember it's about developing Self, so don't push them. Just show them onto the path, but let them walk it. When they have questions and genuinely need help with it, then offer it. That's my advise. But I'm a Neophyte in most terms, though, so take it for what it's worth. I have a feeling you are the "semi-normie", but are too afraid to admit it. Don't let me scare you off if you are, just own up to it. I and the others here can help you better if you better define what you want help with. If you aren't the semi-normie, then I apologize. I am just a Neophyte.

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 No.130260

>>130239

Do you have any suggestions for books from the /fringe/ library that would be a good place to learn about the things you mentioned? Chakra work seems like something I should be learning anyway.

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 No.130261

>>130260

You should absolutely learn about chakra work. The wonderful thing is that alot of it has to do with visualization. Literally visualizing/imagining a chakra opening, opens that chakra, aswell as the crown chakra, automatically. I haven't read any books on the topic, just (lengthy) blog entries, wikipedia articles, yt vids and the like I'm powerful lizard too pls respect . The thing is that it's always highly personal, and more importantly just a system. You can't eat the menu. There are 7 major ones in most traditions most , and there are minor ones in every tradition but the numbers always vary. Same goes for colour. In some chinese traditions the heart chakra is red, while in mainstream "chakra stuff" it's often green. Psychedelics like weed can help immensely with the visualization if you're into it. I've also heard of people so far advanced that they were able to fuse their chakras into a single ball/vortex/wheel, which I assume makes it more powerful, but you'd probably need higher help.

I'm more the hands-on postmodern "artist" (mercy pillar) type I think, so in any case I'm just talking out of my ass ;) I would say follow your heart to tell you what to study. But yes, chakras are imo really fucking important and worthwhile to learn about. Concerning books, I would say that, as Carl Jung said, synchronicity is an ever-present reality for those who have eyes to see. Meaning, you can learn a shit ton about stuff, from seemingly completely unrelated stuff. The Game Of Life by Timothy Leary was one such book for me, because the 8 neuro-circuits correspond imo incredibly well with the chakra system. Honestly just trust your higher self and your intuition to guide you and you will find what you need.

The other thing I mentioned has to do with sigils or straight up manifestation. If you tie an emotion to an idea, that emotion serves as can serve as an almost inexhaustible fuel source. If you have a specific goal in mind you can tie that to the wet dreams, or your rampant no doubt sexual energy to make the subconscious manifest it for you. Remember tho that you have both higher self, and shadow self, both of which need integrating so that they don't go off doing shit without your ego's knowledge. You also can't completely kill your ego, you can only teach it to be more tool than wielder, more "lifting-chain" than prison chain.

Learn about chakras, but do the work. The work/play/dance is infinitely more important than anything that can be said in words. The Numinous is ineffable. You're on the right track bro.

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 No.130262

>>130197

>(and I have not touched on aether)

Would you enlighten us anon? I imagine aether might be the most intriguing of the elements.

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 No.130266

wen was the last time u use ur huion tablet

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 No.130270

Is all magic about power?

What if I want to be a servant or an obedient slave? In a positive way of course, not a hellish way.

Also how can I interact with other intelligences? I guess I don't want to create or manipulate. Maybe I want to be manipulated, but I also want to BE something eternal and unchanging at the core.

Angels?

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 No.130271

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Project 1999 - Classic Everquest

>Project 1999 is a free, emulated classic Everquest server. We provide a nostalgic experience for those wishing to relive the old days of Everquest as it was between 1999 and 2001.

https://www.project1999.com

EQ Titanium client torrent mirrors

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/12176796/

https://piratebay.live/torrent/12176796/

>Installation instructions:

>1. Unzip to your computer

>2. Inside the folder find EQGAME.EXE

>3. Make a desktop shortcut for EQGAME (right click send to desktop shortcut)

>4. Right click your new desktop shortcut, go into properties

>5. Edit the target line to look something like this:

>"C:/EverQuest Project 1999/eqgame.exe" patchme

>http://i.imgur.com/CJQIt7i.png

>Basically you just added patchme to the end.

Wiki

https://wiki.project1999.com

Newbie guide:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Newbie

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 No.130272

>>130262

Tbh >>129830 is a better writeup on aether than I could ever do.

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 No.130273

czech your protonmail plz

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 No.130278

Is necromancy a real thing? Not just channeling spirits but stuff like reanimating corpses (not voodoo brainwashing either). Is it theoretically possible to become undead yourself while retaining your ego and self, like a lich?

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 No.130281

>>129439

How do you celebrate May 1st? I usually listen to music related to the day and contemplate the resurrection, pay respects to ancestors etc.

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 No.130282

>>130281

Celebration is for stupid people and children.

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 No.130284

Looking for a proper way to dispose of my baptismal candle (catholic). Was confirmed in the church, but left at 18 for what I hope are obvious reasons. Current plan is chuck it in a bonfire.

Thoughts?

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 No.130285

>>130284

Carve some sigil into it and then pray to the deity of your choice. Satan perhaps, or some regional pagan god of yours. Alternatively you can carve a personal sigil into it, like of your higher self or some specific goal, and then meditate on that. Or you could charge the candle with all your faults and insecurities and then burn that away, just make sure that your bad energy is converted into good through the act of burning them away. Nothing is ever wasted so get creative.

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 No.130287

File: 62997221c2f32af⋯.jpeg (102.05 KB,470x244,235:122,A47669CF-A91B-4027-8C2D-C….jpeg)

>>130285

>some regional pagan god

am i doing it right?

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 No.130289

File: 70d4c08c1f6ac2a⋯.jpg (1.65 MB,2701x1136,2701:1136,Eq_poster_1998.jpg)

>>130271

Setting up for P1999:

Register forum account on https://www.project1999.com

Create loginserver account https://www.project1999.com/account/?CreateLS

Settings:

Run your EQGame shortcut.

Click Options – a new window should popup.

Select all character models, select all engine settings, for best graphics. Finish.

Exit game, open eqclient.ini.

Set WindowedWidth= and WindowedHeight= to preferred values. (ex: 1024,768)

Set Gamma=5 (otherwise the game may brighten desktop colors while running).

Save the ini file.

Download latest Project 1999 Files from website and extract into your EQ directory to patch and replace.

You may now log in to Project 1999: Blue (PvE).

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 No.130290

File: 3fdf4a13b7f0eea⋯.jpg (1.03 MB,1600x2400,2:3,6a00d.jpg)

File: 92cd85aaa7895b8⋯.jpg (264.65 KB,650x1237,650:1237,63089.jpg)

File: d14bb06e2f52731⋯.jpg (369.17 KB,1285x1920,257:384,45f9c8.jpg)

File: 74de97dd939a1cf⋯.jpg (119.35 KB,500x664,125:166,28415.jpg)

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 No.130293

>>130287

No idea who that is but sure. Use your own self as that deity if you dare.

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 No.130294

>>130293

Tom Brady, basically the New England version of Talos.

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 No.130296

>>130290

Beginner tips:

>Remember to turn on music volume and environment sounds in in-game options

>Add a button for Autorun/walk in Keys options such as "J" [as Alternate]

>Open doors with left-click, interact with NPCs with right-click (and "H" to query a selected NPC for any available quests)

>Click F9 to switch between different camera modes, scroll wheel to zoom in/out

>Two common ways for player movement: J + arrow keys and J + holding right-click

>You have to sit (type "/sit") before camp/logout.

>Choose your race + class wisely, read the class pages in the wiki listed in https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Newbie

>See more commands here: https://wiki.project1999.com/Commands

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 No.130297

>>130290

Huh, I was just reading an occult book that used Everquest for an analogy.

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 No.130300

>>130282

On what basis do you claim this? I’m not the most festive person, as modern celebrations are largely devoid of any non materialistic principles, but I believe that a group of concentrated individuals celebrating something of a greater principle is only positive, even if it is a private celebration. Why do you hate merrymaking and fun?

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 No.130302

>>130300

Because excessive meaningless positivity leads to imbalance which leads to delusion and stupidity.

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 No.130304

>>130241

It depends which direction it is facing. You will see both from time to time. The rightward swastika symbolizes the decent from hyperborea; meanwhile, the leftwards one symbolizes the return. It also functions as a symbol for the Aryan race in general, as it has always manifested in their domains. The other anon wasn't wrong when he called it a sigil.

>>130250

I don't think you can actually be an "undead." But I presume if you made a strong enough "entity" out of your own conscious and being, you could have that possess people. If you want to have a skeleton as a body then it's probably not going to be any good, since in order to do that, you'd have to have the power of someone who's already attained immortality. I would personally recommend following a more traditional occult path. You don't need to be a "lich" to attain your goals. Being a Master would fulfill your desires, and at that point you could look like whatever you damn well please.

>>130278

Another guy asking this. Is it lich season or something? Anyways. It's going to depend on your intention. Do you want a zombie minion, or do you want to bring someone back to life, like Jesus with Barabbas? Making a minion is going to involve creating a mental construct and imbuing your corpse with that. Fresher is naturally going to be easier. But reanimating someone back to their full self will involve channeling their astral body, and some lingering mental parts of them, and putting that in the body. Then you're going to need to give an enormous amount of energy to assist them. But this isn't fool proof. If their astral body moved on to another incarnation then it's going to be much harder. You may end up creating a servitor that has the particular traits of the person in question, but isn't actually that person. That then raises a major ontological question. If someone is individuated then they have an immortal, archetypal "I". These people will always incarnate on the earth, but non-reincarnations aren't born like this. Most are simply imitations of the archetypal man, Adam, and die, and are gone forever. The point I'm trying to make here is that resurrection is often reserved for Heroes. If you've ever heard the theory that normies are NPCs, don't have souls, etc, it's true. Existence precedes essence in these affairs.

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 No.130305

>>130302

This. The only way to combat meaninglessness and wastes of time is to do everything you can to avoid positivity or anything enjoyable. Only then can you be free.

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 No.130306

>>130281

Here's an incantation from the book "The Temple of Wotan" that pops into mind.

>Wotan! The morning mist ofMidgard,

The silence of the trees,

The watching eyes of boar and bear,

And guardians of earth and air. From raven's nest and dragon lair,

Cry out: Great Wotan—Awake!

Holy T^oof of (he Auf&n liihi

Awaken in my weary soul

The sky, the seed, the sun;

The hero that I strive to be,

Hear us now, O High One!

Awaken in our weary world,

Enshrouded by the night,

Your wisdom and your strength,

Awake—O Bearer of the Light!

Awaken, Great Wotan

The honor we forsake,

In glory and in majesty,

Mighty Wotan—awake!

>>130284

Just keep it as a memento. No need to destroy something personal like that. We aren't iconoclasts. Besides, how would you mother feel?

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 No.130308

>>130306

These are the people that told me I had original sin. They are the very embodiment of butthurt and evil. The candle they gave me to anchor my non-consentual initiation into their criminal slaver cult is not what I would call an object of sentiment. My mother would not care, especially considering the fact that our last priest (now deceased) was a molester.

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 No.130309

>>130308

Just go out camping and throw it in a burn pit. No need to overthink it, and burning is always better than throwing it in the trash.

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 No.130324

>>130309

This.

>>130308

Just have fun with it anon. It's more important that you feel like you have left your criminal slaver cult and that the burning of the candle serves that. After all, meanings change and the candle didn't choose to be catholic, so give it your own personal meaning and marvel at the flames.

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 No.130325

>>130309

My thoughts exactly

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 No.130326

looking to get in touch with an anon who talked about treating food addiction via hypnosis, I'd like to try

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 No.130328

From an Alan Watts video on Taoism-

>"It is believed in India, that when a person sets out on a way of liberation, his first problem is to become free from his past karma … a person who, say, begins to study Yoga, will suddenly get sick, or his children will die, or he will lose alot of money, or all sorts of catastrophes will occur, because the karmic debt is being cleared up."

>"The Christian way of saying the same thing, is that if you plan to change your life, to turn over a new leaf, you mustn't let the devil know, because he will oppose you with all his might, knowing that you might escape his power."

Is that true? Where can I learn more about this?

I've noticed in my own life that this happens, every time I try to become more 'spiritual', for lack of a better word, bad shit starts happening. I thought maybe I was noticing it more, but it seems that the frequency of misfortune does increase compared to when I live out my regular life

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 No.130330

How do I change my genetics? Or rather how do I change who I am inside and out? I'm a heavily flawed person that just lives to breathe.

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 No.130331

>>130330

You must be at peace with yourself before you can change.

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 No.130332

>>130331

How do I attain that? I've been in a rut for 7 years now, I'm massively depressed I got a job thinking it would help with my motivational issues and social anxiety/ general social awkwardness but I feel worse now I have a job and responsibilities. I really dislike myself I'm no good at anything I always find a way to screw things up.

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 No.130333

>>130332

This should be useful

http://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/discourses.html

Also you need to spend more time in introspection. Analyze your emotions whenever they materialize, make sure you know where they're coming from and know whether or not they're warranted.

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 No.130334

>>130332

>I got a job thinking it would help with my motivational issues and social anxiety/ general social awkwardness

Why would you think a job would do any of that? Where in your analysis of the social ritual known as a "job" has convinced you that the outcome of your participation in this specific social ritual would magically alter your brain from one mental state to another?

>but I feel worse now I have a job and responsibilities

The primary purpose of a "job" is to provide a profit to your employer, with a secondary purpose to provide you, the employee, with a salary that you and the employer negotiated in the hiring process.

It seems to me the reason you are depressed is because you have expectations that aren't met. If you don't get rid of your unrealistic expectations you will forever be depressed. Replace expectations with goals, and be sure you understand that everything in life has probabilities, meaning that if you don't reach a goal, you rationally conclude that the goal has not been met for one reason or another that you have not anticipated and move on, you don't get irrational and get emotional about it.

Listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0ETX4z_DU

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 No.130335

>>130257

Fine, I admit. I posted in the last questions thread about how I seem to have lost my reasoning capability/"I"(WWA)/have major mindfog, but I realized that I sperged so I left. The conventional advice I could remember wouldn't work, because I've never masturbated, so I can't go on NoFap, I don't play video games, so I can't quit, meditation deals in stopping thoughts, which I feel feeds the thoughtorm of "I can't think" and etc. I'm haunted by memories of being intelligent, but now my mind seems mush, and I don't know/can't remember why.

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 No.130336

>>130333

>Analyze your emotions whenever they materialize, make sure you know where they're coming from

Feelings of inadequacy with everything I do I just don't have the smarts to accomplish anything worthy or charisma to interact with people. I'm a complete outcast that can't relate to anyone and I don't know how to talk to people. At the same time I don't generally care about people or what they like I have to pretend to be interested, I just want to be comfortable enough around people to get by. I feel I don't belong anywhere and working a regular job is not satisfying and I'd rather be doing something I like but I don't know what it is, I can't be a neet for the rest of my life. I will take time to read those books if it will help achieve inner peace although I strongly feel dislike towards myself.

>>130334

>Why would you think a job would do any of that? Where in your analysis of the social ritual known as a "job" has convinced you that the outcome of your participation in this specific social ritual would magically alter your brain from one mental state to another?

I sort of felt obligated I've been neet for near a decade now and I wanted to show my parents that I'm actually doing something to better myself. I knew it was a bad idea I'm locked in now I think I want to work a few months and save money and quit and focus on fixing my mental state. I've completely quit porn and masturbation it's been a few months now, that was my largest hurdle.

>The primary purpose of a "job" is to provide a profit to your employer, with a secondary purpose to provide you, the employee, with a salary that you and the employer negotiated in the hiring process.

I get that it's why I never cared for work or participating in society. I just want to find some meaning in this life and blend in, I'm rotting away sitting in my room doing nothing and I figured maybe a job would get me out of the house and motivate me towards something better.

>you have expectations that aren't met

I don't have high expectations of myself I know my limitations. I just want to find a place in this world and blend in, I want to be somewhat capable of interacting with other humans. I feel I'm not really responding to your post properly I'm sorry, I'm not at all smart. You're very intelligent and for the life of me I couldn't think of any of that on my own, that adds to my feelings of self hatred, I feel like a mistake that should not be, there are mistakes in the animal kingdom and I feel I'm one of them which is why I so desperately want to become an entirely different, better person.

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 No.130339

>>130336

Your main problem seems to be that you're placing overblown value on frivolous things, leading to said neurotic emotions when the irrational values cannot be satisfied. The fact is you don't need the approval of anyone to advance towards eudaimonia, and moreover these the thoughts of others are completely out of your control and thus not something that is deserving of your attention. Deprogramming your faulty thought patterns will definitely be difficult but it's definitely possible. The key is persistent mindfulness and correction in regard to your inner machinations.

Sounds like you're also lacking a basic framework of meaning in your life. Finding something that 'clicks' with your innate nature is going to be necessary to replace your unhealthy values once they're curtailed.

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 No.130344

>>130339

Very wise words. I don't know what to take from this though I don't know how to use your valuable information that you've given me I need literal step by step guide I can't figure stuff out on my own.

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 No.130348

Any tips on how can I astral project? Also has anyone here tried Hemi-Sync - The Gateway Experience does it work, what did you experience??

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 No.130350

File: db5b3f23009d380⋯.png (353.62 KB,1310x2779,1310:2779,use maketh mastery.png)

>>130344

Making lists might help. What you want, need, don't want, have, etc. Try making them as specific as possible. See what thoughts and emotions come to mind. Hold on to those feelings especially if they're uncomfortable. Your programming that tells you you're stupid or whatever was given to you, meaning you can renounce it.

A man's shortcomings are taken from his epoch; his virtues and greatness belong all to himself. - Goethe

And don't beat yourself up for "not being smart". In my opinion, you being here genuinely places you already at the forefront of civilization. You having taken a job to prove to your parents that you are willing to change after a decade of neetism is an accomplishment in itself. It proves that, not only can you get a job which as a neet is not a given, you can get a better job. Fear is the mind-killer and confidence is the most valuable neuro-technology there is. What do you enjoy doing? What makes your soul sing and your heart dance when you do it? You overcame porn addiction. In times like these, so prone to distraction, that is a massive, and I mean MASSIVE success. I know "high-performance" people, who work and party about 18h a day, who cannot overcome their porn, coke, alcohol, netflix addiction. Being able to fit in socially is not that great of an accomplishment if you're as fucked in the head in the same way the people you want to fit in with are.

Being well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society is no measure of health.- Krishnamurti

>I can't figure out stuff on my own

I used to be the same still am in many respects. I realized that most if not all people are just free-styling it. Even the devil has bad days, even god feels lonely, noone in the universe truly knows where we're going. Only that the way is to go along with what feels good and true and beautiful. Paint something, dance to your favourite song, exercise (push-ups, running, yoga). Fuck dude, ==THE SIMPLE ACT OF IMAGINING YOURSELF DOING IT GOES A LONG LONG LONG WAY==

Pic related, visualisation is really helpful. Just watch your desired/better self doing the things you want to do. If you want an explanation for it: like attracts like, and you seeing and feeling that better you in your mind, puts you vibrationally closer to that you. Meditation is not supposed to stop all thoughts forcefully so as to lobotomize you, but to clear the mind to be able to CHOOSE the thoughts you put energy towards.

You'll make it eventually anon, just be confident. Let the word linger in your head and see what comes to mind. The point of existence is not to feel shitty, but to overcome the shittyness, go up to the pearly gates and crash your balls of steel onto Jehova's desk saying "try me motherfucker". Confidence anon. Realize that most people are literally incapable of meditating, many people are literally incapable of feeling emotion, and all all all people start out by faking it. No true artist does not feel like an impostor, no true scientist would deny that he is standing on the shoulders of giants.

Do pic related regularly. Try Neville Goddard if that's your cup of tea. Or discordianism. Or literally whatever feels right. You'll get there eventually.

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 No.130352

File: 0e9fd15e6600001⋯.png (670.16 KB,551x461,551:461,Scientism 020.png)

>>130350

I should add the following:

The fact that you came here and asked for help is a virtue in itself. Don't be like me, the retard who thinks he doesn't need help because "muh it's all in me, me so smart". Being able to admit to weakness, to ask for help, is a genuine strength that is in rare quantity nowadays. Besides asking other people, try asking your heart. No, literally. Imagine your heart to be a separate being in you, and ask it what it wants. Whatever images, feelings, words, sounds come to mind are the scratching of the surface, and put you mentally into an advantageous position compared to most people. You can do the same for literally any part of you. Always remember, you have a body, a mind, a name, a life. All that belongs to you, it is not you! It is not your being, not your essence. The totality of it, all your wishes, fears, potential, and the interplay of these aspects of you and in you, are what makes up you. You having access to the a? collective subconscious makes you ultimately infinite, but only in degree, not in mass.

Since you feel like you're not smart enough to accomplish your goals, it's already really fucking good that you're aware of that but I repeat myself take that voice in you which makes you feel powerless and ask it "why" again and again. Ask it what it wants. Keep notes, however mundane. Every bit helps. Remember that alchemy is foremost an internal process, and that the sorcerer's stone is not necessarily an object, but rather a state of mind, a way of being more. Positive affirmations, visualisation, analysis all work incredibly well if used correctly and it's quite hard to use them wrongly trust me I've tried

Desires manifest through sorcerous belief. I genuinely believe in you anon. Whatever you're gonna do, you're not going to dissapoint me because I have faith in you, me, and the forces that make up this universe.

Pic somewhat related.

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 No.130355

>>130350

>>130352

I cannot thank you enough, the wisest and most kindest words that have ever been spoken to me. I will heed your advice and stop feeling sorry for myself and kick the depressive nature that has overtaken me. I'm going to study that pic and take everything I can from both of your posts, I'm going to delve head first into magick and visualization techniques and find answers and solutions for me. Once more, thank you very much and appreciate it dearly. I hope to visit this post in a few months time with progress and hopefully one day I will find self fulfillment in my life and cure my ailments. All the best to you and everyone on this board who have given me a second chance at life, it's what I feel I've gotten from here.

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 No.130356

>>130336

>I wanted to show my parents that I'm actually doing something to better myself.

You should do something to "better yourself" because you want to do it, not because you want to impress your parents. Some people can never be impressed. The latter is often an unrealistic expectation. You were born because your father didn't wear a condom, not because you have some obligatory role to impress some people who will die of old age/cancer in a few decades or sooner.

>I knew it was a bad idea I'm locked in now I think I want to work a few months and save money and quit and focus on fixing my mental state.

Earning money is a good idea since it's necessary for survival as set by the rules in your human society you were born into, but you had an unrealistic expectation that a job would provide you with something more than a salary. If there's another positive benefit derived from a job, then that is often luck.

>I just want to find some meaning in this life

I suggest an intellectual pursuit as well as learning crafts, mechanics, tech, etc. that you can afford.

>and blend in

Why would you care if you "blend in" with sheep? Look at how everyone in the mainstream is condemning and mocking Julian Assange, one of the few people on this planet with courage and a sense of justice who sacrificed himself to expose what our governments, powerful political institutions and corporations are really doing. I would not want to blend in with shameless cowards.

>I want to be somewhat capable of interacting with other humans.

Stop viewing other humans as superior to you. Understand that most people are sheep. Everyone has vulnerabilities.

>I feel like a mistake that should not be

Who gets to determine what is a "mistake"? The careerist psychopaths who run our governments? The capitalists? The SJWs? The incels? The hedonists? Everyone can be argued to be a "mistake" one way or another.

>there are mistakes in the animal kingdom

Evolution has no "mistakes" (that is a human projection), only probabilities. The formation of the first prokaryotic cell (your earliest ancestor) was a probability that was met from the physical event of energy fusing together amino acids, salt and water in such a chemical arrangement that a stable self-replicating cell structure was formed.

>I so desperately want to become an entirely different, better person.

How do you define "better person"?

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 No.130359

>>130356

>You should do something to "better yourself" because you want to do it, not because you want to impress your parents.

I understand and I made the mistake of getting this job. Right now I'm looking for another job I know I'd be happy doing and I sort of have an idea what I want to do for money so all hope isn't lost I suppose.

>set by the rules in your human society you were born into

Wew I want to live wherever you are.

>but you had an unrealistic expectation that a job would provide you with something more than a salary

Right you are, I thought it would give me a purpose though I know myself better and I won't be happy unless I work for myself. Also got a job because I would like some money to buy a few things.

>I suggest an intellectual pursuit as well as learning crafts, mechanics, tech, etc. that you can afford.

For the longest time I had no hobbies then I found interest in the piano. Also want to learn magick.

>Why would you care if you "blend in" with sheep? Look at how everyone in the mainstream is condemning and mocking Julian Assange, one of the few people on this planet with courage and a sense of justice who sacrificed himself to expose what our governments, powerful political institutions and corporations are really doing. I would not want to blend in with shameless cowards.

I just want a few friends and to not be a total sperg when interacting with family. Maybe even a gf I don't know. For the longest time I was ok without friends then like a woman entering menopause, I wanted friends.

>Stop viewing other humans as superior to you. Understand that most people are sheep. Everyone has vulnerabilities.

Good viewpoint doesn't help that I'm a sperg and can't talk to them even if they are sheep.

>Who gets to determine what is a "mistake"? The careerist psychopaths who run our governments? The capitalists? The SJWs? The incels? The hedonists? Everyone can be argued to be a "mistake" one way or another.

Excellent point.

>Evolution has no "mistakes" (that is a human projection), only probabilities. The formation of the first prokaryotic cell (your earliest ancestor) was a probability that was met from the physical event of energy fusing together amino acids, salt and water in such a chemical arrangement that a stable self-replicating cell structure was formed.

Man I wish I was as intelligent as you.

>How do you define "better person"?

Ok now you got me thinking… How do I put this, I want to be someone that people look up to, someone with value I want to do something important I don't care to earn millions of dollars, it's silly and it's only a dream but I want to lead the way into the future and save western civilization.

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 No.130360

>>130359

I'd like to be tall too lol. Being short I look like a teenager with smallish hands really hampers my self confidence in the presence of tall people especially when a taller woman walks by, it kills me inside. Some things are just dreams I suppose.

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 No.130363

>>130360

Just channel me your shorts and I'll send you my talls. Deal?

Just be shorter than 175cm or the voltage will be wrong.

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 No.130364

>>130355

>I will heed your advice

Yes. I know you will.

>I hope to visit this post in a few months time

Please do. I'd be very interested.

>a second chance at life

I know that feeling anon. All the best to you too. Remember that confidence is the chief neuro-technology of progress and as a human you are gifted with near endless amounts, you just have to find a way to tap into it and you will eventually

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 No.130365

>>130261

I haven't committed to any research yet (as I haven't been able to do much of anything lately) so I figure I should ask now, will meditation be important or necessary for any of this?

I still haven't figured out any way to meditate, and it's been a big road block for me so far.

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 No.130368

What sort of energy imbalance would cause psychosomatic pain in the right inner wrist and dry skin on the back of the right hand?

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 No.130369

File: a149c8cb6e11962⋯.jpg (35.46 KB,500x685,100:137,1522292593624.jpg)

I need help.. I want to learn how to banish but each time I try and learn how I just end up not going trough with it … w t f

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 No.130370

>>130369

Banish what?

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 No.130373

File: d1d2d202059e5e6⋯.png (871.21 KB,635x511,635:511,ClipboardImage.png)

Yesterday morning I experienced something for the second time ever. For a while now I've had the power to consciously bend anything in a dream to my will. Eventually I woke up in a sort of hypnagogic state where I knew I had this power in reality. The environment pulsated with malleability. I was unprepared for this power but I knew I wanted to use it, so I tried to manifest a specific woman I like heh. What I got instead was an indescribable horror at the foot of my bed. I screamed at the top of my lungs until I guess the trance ended.

Anyway yesterday morning I woke up with the same ability but decided not to use it out of fear because of what happened last time. I'm curious what you more experienced wizards make of this, and if you have any advice.

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 No.130378

>>130370

Negative energy I guess..

Sometime now I've been really negative and have some recurring bad thoughts that I wouldn't ever normally think like: 'I hate my life' 'I wish so and so dies' etc..

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 No.130379

Is it good practice to drink your own pee? I have found that I do not mind it so much, but how can I maximize the benefits? What are the benefits?

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 No.130380

Who remembers internet sensation billy guckmin?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ajbpTjiv8&t=34s

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 No.130383

>>130365

Yes. Being able to clear your mind is paramount. The less fragmented your consciousness and attention are, the easier it gets to do the stuff you want to do. The best way to meditate imo is to order the "monkey mind" part (you know, the one that goes "oh look shiny, oh look new") to only focus on the breath. In and out. And every time you get distracted, not to get disappointed or mad because you're already making progress if you notice that you're distracted, AND you're making massive progress if you notice and understand the nature of the distraction. You really don't have to go full balls-to-the-wall "I'm gonna do this shit now for an hour everyday", because, unless you're that type of prodigy, you're not gonna make it that far so soon. Start with 30 seconds of thinking about nothing other than the sensation of your breath. If any hurtful emotion or something similar comes up, proceed as you please, but know that you are making progress. You don't get over shit, you get through it. I've told people to do it for 10 seconds only, and they almost always become more mindful, peaceful etc at once. You can program your subconscious to do stuff for you. >>130350 pic related, I use the "KLEEEENG" sound as a reminder when I've gone astray and it's really helpful. You can use various drugs as training wheels and to experiment. I've found that weed puts me into the trance state easier but that it makes me more prone to distraction aswell. However, I also found that the state of tranquility and serenity feels much more profound than when on other drugs (nicotine, coffeine, alcohol).

So yeah, really fucking important. Watch your breath, try mantras. Mantras are powerful as fuck, even when used haphazardly. Try perhaps "I am my best self, I will be better". For as long as you can but 30 seconds or a minute is already really fucking good if you struggle with meditation.

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 No.130384

>>130379

Why would you drink pee without knowing or even seeing any benefits? I'm sure there are, but there are also probably benefits to eating razorblades.

You see, I eat my own jizz because then I ingest the souls of my unborn children. I eat my own shit because manure makes the flowers grow. I eat sunlight because I'm a nightowl with a deathwish. I also eat babies because I'm le illerminaty.

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 No.130385

>>130384

Not funny

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 No.130389

>>130384

Simply not fapping already entails ingesting your unborn children. That's why it gives power.

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 No.130390

I had a messed up dream of someone getting stabbed, taking the knife they were stabbed with then slicing themselves up at random, and then suddenly being swallowed whole by the Earth as someone cried out "Daphne!".

The last two night also I had very strange and symbolic dreams.

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 No.130391

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne

Just looked up Daphne apparently it's the name of a "a naiad, a variety of female nymph associated with fountains, wells, springs, streams, brooks and other bodies of freshwater."

Oddly enough also Daphne was right beside a river when she was swallowed whole by the ground (sand) beneath her.

I probably should have wrote down the other two dreams I had. They were also very "mythological" in character and seemed to be telling me something about god, the one before this night in particular, I think was symbolically telling me about the self-existence of God.

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 No.130392

It seems I witnessed Daphne (Laurel … this is associated with honor, victory, high status…) being swallowed by Gaia (the Earth).

Anyone want to try and interpret this?

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 No.130394

>>130392

Your heavenly anima is flawed and self-destructive. Your chthonic or primal anima is thus attempting to subsume it.

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 No.130406

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Is this guy legitimate? What he's saying works in theory but I can't trust Jews.

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 No.130421

>>130378

Strengthening the ego can be helpful. Basically you separate yourself from the actual emotion and analyze it. Determine how exactly it came to attach itself on you. Make sure to really detach yourself from the emotion. If you do this correctly you should immediately feel at least some relief from gaining control over what was previously an entirely unconscious phenomenon. But in order to keep the emotion from immediately reattaching you need to know exactly what is causing it. What wrong thoughts your ego is generating, and therefore what wrong patterns are embedded on your greater self. Gently make an effort to correct that wrong thought. Train yourself to associate the emotion with the correction of whatever delusion is generating it.

Greater awareness of the unconscious is invaluable for this; dream interpretation is the easiest way to start, and I highly recommend teaching yourself meditation. Starting to interact more with your unconscious will also increase your resistance to extrinsic curses (basically using the astral to influence your unconscious in destructive ways, which can be done unintentionally in some cases).

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 No.130423

>>130383

I find for "quieting the monkey mind" it is easier for me acknowledge the random pointless thoughts that come into my mind, and then just tell them to fuck off and let them go. Detach from them and they will fade to the background.

Maybe someone else will find that useful.

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 No.130432

This morning as I woke up the following though popped into my head:

"Flat is positive. Earth is positive, so earth is flat."

Does this mean anything?

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 No.130433

>>130432

What about flatlining? And breasts? Flat is boring.

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 No.130441

>>130433

Positive as in active, not benefic

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 No.130444

>>130373

Just make a chi ball next time and use it as practice. You don't go from crawling to sprinting and parkouring off fences.

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 No.130445

File: 909e397328c6b23⋯.png (245.86 KB,634x448,317:224,cheeto ball.png)

>>130444

Like so?

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 No.130446

>>130445

Essentially yes.

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 No.130447

File: 8c5615af1a58145⋯.png (417.96 KB,1746x1259,1746:1259,kinetics.png)

>>130194

>>130195

>>130196

>>130197

>>130198

This is good info, thanks. Can you recommend any books that go more in depth about kinetics?

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 No.130448

>>130383

My major roadblock with meditation has been physical so far. The only way I can typically get comfortable and relaxed is by lying in bed, but I sleep rather poorly and end up lying in bed for a long time, usually around 10-12 hours. Trying to lie down and get comfortable during the day after I've been lying down so long already typically doesn't work, I can't get relaxed without some soreness or discomfort (primarily my cubital tunnel acting up) disrupting my focus.

Trying to sit upright on the floor, (such as cross-legged or in the "Rock" position) or in a chair usually requires too much focus and/or physical effort to keep my back straight and head upright to allow me to get relaxed, so that's no good either.

I'm not sure what to work on in this regard, considering how many problems I have affecting the quality of my sleep, and I don't have the money or space to get a new chair.

On a different note though, I've had a couple different instances over the years of waking from sleep feeling more alert, hyper-focused, and mentally "in-tune", with my visualization being considerably more powerful, basically just letting me overlay imagery onto my physical vision. I'd also feel more emotionally moved by music I listened to. It all faded away over the next couple of hours, which really brought me down

Were those just rare instances of a good night's sleep, or was that perhaps something chakra related?

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 No.130449

>>130448

Yoga, tai chi or rhythmic stretching seem like the obvious solutions to your problem. If you can't meditate while still, meditate while in motion. Walking meditation is also an option.

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 No.130451

>>130448

Try active meditation I use glossolalia. Basically speaking in forced and sometimes fast gibberish until you completely zone out.

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 No.130454

>>130448

I second this >>130449. I do both walking and still meditation aswell as yoga. I used to have really (tightened?) aching muscles but the yoga takes care of that and at some point it snowballs. I now have really good physical discipline to the point where even if I'm close to blackout drunk, I still never! lose balance and can stand on one foot without problems or even waivering. The physical discipline pays off and massively aids mental discipline, as well as vice-versa.

>Were those just rare instances

Probably both but I think it's less chakra and more pineal gland per se. Ajna chakra if any. In any case it's not healthy afaik to sleep more than 10h a day. I would say you were just more mindful, which is the whole point of meditation

It often happens to me that I do something by accident or without knowing only to find out later what I did. I had the golf-ball-pushing-out of my forehead feeling-process over before I consciously knew that to be a thing. The vortex-feeling-process started before I knew THAT to be a thing and I'm still not sure whether it's already over or still ongoing. Could just be powering up, could also be finishing up. Who knows. We are lived by powers we pretend to understand. -Friedrich Nietzsche

>>130451

I heard chaos magicians get interesting results with this nonsense-speaking technique. Will try out.

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 No.130463

I only fairly recently gotten somewhat into meditation. ive been doing it with some power meditations.

is the wim hof method a troll? I've gotten more "results so far" and felt going deeper. I use his and some other "meditation" visualizations and breathing in through my nose trying to fill my bottom lungs. I try to hold my breath half the time I breathe in and exhaling try to match my inhalition time.

Is this doing anything? it feels like it does because of the headspace.

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 No.130469

Often times I'll find myself in a trance on 8ch where I'm basically just randomly clicking through boards and letting the information passively wash through my brain without any conscious input on my part. Spiritually, what is happening here? Is this harming my energy body or can such a meditative practice be used constructively?

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 No.130475

>>130463

Wim Hof isn't a troll. The breath is your way of consciously directing the different systems within your body, and he's managed to discover a good system for doing this when combined with stress on the body such as cold.

>>130469

Sounds like you're just distracting yourself. Good way to fry your attention span.

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 No.130483

Henri Nouwen, Eckhart Tolle, Brennan Manning, Deitrich Bonhoeffer. K.P. Johanna, Oswald Chambers, Thomas a Kempis, Saint Augustine, Thomas Aquinas,

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 No.130489

>>130475

Anyway to reverse those effects and fix your attention span? Not the person who asked, but I've been going through the exact same thing and you are right my attention span is fried

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 No.130490

>>130489

In order to get your dopamine back and a whole lot of other stuff you probably don't even notice you're missing: get your baseline dopamine levels down. Way down. It's a fucking zombie epidemic.

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 No.130492

What's the most impressive magical thing you've done? I'm curious as to what the upper limits of sorcery are.

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 No.130499

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Canadian surveillance revelation

This was started in 2011.

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 No.130502

File: ddb030321e698eb⋯.jpg (289.31 KB,1096x592,137:74,concentration1.jpg)

File: f9711ece73de946⋯.jpg (68.02 KB,493x406,17:14,concentration2.jpg)

>>130489

I've personally found that there's no magic shortcut; it's primarily to do with practice. Pay attention to whatever it is you're doing -whenever your mind wanders, bring it back. You can do this with any given activity, all day long.

This sort of approach has been the most helpful for me, and I would consider it a fundamental practice.

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 No.130504

Spirits have been guiding me through a shamanic initiation for a while now based on some dormant witchblood from my ancestral lines. Ive had a number of mystical experiences lately that are abjectly terrifying, usually involving other people becoming conduits for higher energies I cant discern that put forth judgement on my soul for all my wrongdoings and sins, and this will happen in the middle of school or hanging out with friends. Most recently it happened when I was offered some blue lotus, which then transported my mind to a very dark egyptian vibed underworld mindscape of damnation and separation from the Divine. Friends were saying things that were normal but to me they touched my soul with such precision and truth that I knew something was off. The next day I was so moved by the anguish I felt that I had to leave my studies in class to cry in the hallway.

It started recently during a microdosing regiment I put myself under because a spirit whispered the message "follow me if you wanna see something cool" and I followed the wisp. Since then Ive had 4 Near Death Experiences(3 flatlines and 1 hydroplane off a hillside) that left me unscathed. I had an encounter with a being that identified itself as God and healed my blunted emotional state and depression in a way that felt like my brain fried from overheating and then foamed out my left ear as my skull caved in. I fell asleep and woke up normal and cried from how beautiful it was to be able to feel again.

Ive felt my energy circuits powering up recently and even heard my chakras swirling and crackling when I tap into the right state. Energy work is becoming automatic and intuitive to me as well as new forms of divination I never thought Id have the skill to do. Most recent is discerning patterns on the surface of water after pouring various powders in that are only slightly soluble. Got this reading today which is honestly one of the most accurate readings Ive done for what the terms mean to me and what events have transpired recently in my life. 'Current state is chaotic but structured fractally. A balance on the scales of duality has been found. Future looks clear'

At this point books and rituals are falling into my lap on various magical artes and currents. If anyone has books on the topics of Neolithic Shamanism(norse), Kabbala, Mudras, Siddhis, Astral and Dream Work, Spiritual Psychonautic Exploration, or anything in general that would give me applicable practices. I want to work with this being and live my life in gratitude for what it has done for me.

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 No.130510

If karma is a thing why are the people in charge of society typically evil?

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 No.130512

>>130510

They transcended it.

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 No.130513

File: 89b161e2892ac52⋯.png (543.11 KB,2000x2000,1:1,epycwynnsuper.png)

>>130512

>>130510

So the hardest leadership positions in the world that often heavily involve social management just happen to lend themselves to the most aggressive socially manipulative people on the planet? You're surprised more socialist hippies and cuddle buddies aren't in charge of positions that near explicitly require being a douchebag to actually do the job?

Look authoritarian fuckos deserve all the hell they get from the masses, but the whole reason authoritarianism happened is BECAUSE being a powerful leader lends itself to being a King of Douchebags. Sure if you tired your brain out in learning to be BOTH a good person AND a brutal leader, and then stress yourself out trying to selectively swing back and forth between those two things, you MIGHT get by with that at the cost of immense mental stress. But normally a lot of leaders are going to naturally choose the simpler straight-forward option of letting aggression consume them and commanding and influencing others with that aggression. That's how Mafia works.

Look Buddhists have said this themselves -the closer you get to enlightenment, the further you'll give a shit about pursuing ambition. Balancing being ethical with being effective isn't easy and the former is often a lot more optional than the latter which is mandatory if you want to keep your job as a leader.

Why are the people in charge of society evil? -because being an aggressive manipulative brutally effective person is practically a prerequisite if you want to control people and control difficult large projects like managing a team or maintaining a corporation of tens of thousands. High Thrones never come without needles in the cushions.

This isn't to say you CAN'T be ethical while also being effective -it's often more effective to be ethical than not to be. But there are many situations where you gotta choose between what seems ethical versus what seems effective, both of which can vary depending on if you're thinking greater good or short-term good. There's a reason it's often referred to as 'necessary evil,' and that's because brutality often seems evil when it isn't, and when the brutality is truly evil it's pretty difficult to tell the person in charge who's breaking their ass to keep the world turning, to dial it back, unless you send all the activists and lobbyists you can organize.

But I suppose they don't normally teach you this shit in Buddhism because Buddhism has to be the most lazy-as-shit philosophy I ever heard of that has all the illusion of ethics and none of the efficiency required to actually be ethical. It's easy to be reactive and call brutality evil without giving a shit about the work that goes into doing everything else right on a consistent basis.

If Buddha and Jesus were so ethical how come they never went into politics and created a basic Constitution the world could draw inspiration from -because they didn't give a shit about politics and probably knew exactly the mindset required the lead and they did not want to have that mindset. That mindset is a stressful hell worthy of a mind brimming with efficient socially adept aggression -not exactly the most 'prophetic' or 'karmatically pure' way of thinking.

~E p y c [redacted] W y n n (rule 5)

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 No.130514

>>130513

blablabla nobody gives a shit what you have to say

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 No.130515

File: 48ee6e8e1f5e7b9⋯.png (650.99 KB,530x530,1:1,ClipboardImage.png)

Any good Mason books that explain the symbol of Jebulon?

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 No.130522

File: d3152749add471d⋯.mp4 (4.44 MB,480x600,4:5,The chimpanzee, which has ….mp4)

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 No.130523

>>130522

I wonder if niggers have souls.

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 No.130525

Whenever I activate astral vision the scenery looks dark and almost evil (fields of skulls, feeling of being overwelmed by external darkness). Because of this I tend to recoil from the experience and don't progress. Does anyone know how to move past this sticking point?

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 No.130526

>>130525

Fear is the mind-killer. Quit being a little baby and remember the law of polarity.

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 No.130529

What happened to Billy Brujo's youtube? All his videos are deleted, and no accounts he owns has said anything about it yet.

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 No.130530

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 No.130561

File: 7a5b4898c4a27cc⋯.gif (42.53 KB,158x202,79:101,hmm.gif)

I've seen people claiming that some musicians have contacted and asked spirits to teach them music or to become a talented musician…

I want to know what spirits can help teach people music if any?

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 No.130562

>>130561

The Devil.

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 No.130564

>>130561

Afaik, in the ars goetia it is specifically stated that most spirits know most stuff. On top of that, as there are a lot more than 72 daemons in this world, you can choose or be chosen by, it all depends on you pretty much any spirit. Look through the key of solomon or other grimoires, you will usually find a short description of their fields of expertise alongside associated numbers, colours, elements, materials etc, or let yourself be guided to the right spirit as your higher self knows what is best for you and will find what you are looking for if you let it.

>>130562 I second this but I should warn you that you should approach him not as an enemy. If you don't hold to Yehova that shouldn't be too much of a problem anyways. Treat any spirit with as little preconception as possible. Treat them as friendly as you would want to be treated.

Additionally, I once heard somewhere that alot of the "preparations" in the key of solomon, like the ring you hold to shield your face from Astaroth's fire-breath, are traps designed to seriously injure or kill the celebrant. On top of that, the solomonic way of calling upon Yehova to coerce the spirits to do your bidding is, just that, coercive. I imagine most spirits, unless they directly serve him, don't like that kind of treatment.

I probably should add that, while Satan is an entity to himself, the name is also used as a title. Sort of how the word Czar or Kaiser derives directly from the one dude named Julius Caesar.

That said, trust yourself and trust them and it should be fine.

Mephistophiles is said to grant instantaneous learning. yes THAT Mephisto known from Faust Both Apollo and Hermes are also known in legend for their musical talent.

tl;dr most figures of legend and many many more are accessible through the sub-conscious, finding one that can teach you music shouldn't be too hard.

What instrument do you want to learn if I may ask?

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 No.130566

I just finished reading the Kybalion, and I cannot wrap my head around this passage:

>To occultists the word "Spirit" is used in the sense of "The Animating Principle," carrying with it the idea of Power, Living Energy, Mystic Force, etc. And occultists know that that which is known to them as "Spiritual Power" may be employed for evil as well as good ends (in accordance with the Principle of Polarity), a fact which has been recognized by the majority of religions in their conceptions of Satan, Beelzebub, the Devil, Lucifer, Fallen Angels, etc. And so the knowledge regarding these Planes has been kept in the Holy of Holies in all Esoteric Fraternities and Occult Orders, — in the Secret Chamber of the Temple. But this may be said here, that those who have attained high spiritual powers and have misused them, have a terrible fate in store for them, and the swing of the pendulum of Rhythm will inevitably swing them back to the furthest extreme of Material existence, from which point they must retrace their steps Spiritward, along the weary rounds of The Path, but always with the added torture of having always with them a lingering memory of the heights from which they fell owing to their evil actions. The legends of the Fallen Angels have a basis in actual facts, as all advanced occultists know. The striving for selfish power on the Spiritual Planes inevitably results in the selfish soul losing its spiritual balance and falling back as far as it had previously risen. But to even such a soul, the opportunity of a return is given — and such souls make the return journey, paying the terrible penalty according to the invariable Law.

The book never explains exactly why using spiritual powers for selfish purposes causes spiritual imbalance, or how loss of spiritual balance causes regression of frequency. This is troubling to me because my higher Self seems to have a much stronger affinity with egoism than with altruism. Moreover, the principal of polarity as well as the entities given (Satan, Beelzebub, etc) seem to indicate that it is possible for an evil being to gain and keep high spiritual vibration.

Relating to this is the claim that the positive aspect of something is always stronger than the negative aspect of something. This doesn't make sense to me. If something has polarity my intuition tells me that both poles must be equal; every action has an equal and opposite reaction. If the absolute positive really was always stronger than the absolute negative it seems like the universe would have settled into a state of absolute positivity a long time ago, due to the positive always winning out when such forces clashed.

Also, the principal of polarity's application to gender (male being positive and female being negative) seems to demonstrate that the negative isn't necessarily always malevolent or destructive.

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 No.130571

>>130566

The real difference is that egoism is delusive, that is, not really understanding the nature of how the I/other dichotomy is a false one. The ALL is limitless but what you're describing is basically very advanced limitation.

That doesn't mean you're wrong to recognize that what passes for "wrong" among laity is often just as right as what passes as "right." This is not really about moralizing or a fight between positive and negative. Rather, it is a question of direction, and whether or not that direction is within or without limitation as such. You will see intimately what I mean as you continue to experience gnosis; there should come a time when it all very clearly clicks. At that point it will be clearer that "negative" stuff is really another term for limitation and restriction, which is appropriate for the self-limiting but not for one such as yourself.

However, you do hit on one of the sloppiest sections of the Kybalion. It's a wonderful work, but it could use some tonal updating.

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 No.130573

>>130564

Thanks for all the info! Its really insightful since I am still pretty new to all of this…

So How can I go about contacting the Devil/Satan specifically? I assume I just have to constantly pray to him, make offerings?

Also originally Apollo was the spirit I wanted to contact for this yet I haven't really found out how, I even asked once yet no one answered me.

>What instrument do you want to learn

No specific one but composing music as a whole…

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 No.130579

>>130573

Repetition wins the day here. Repeat, take notes and modify as needed. Result alone should be your benchmark.

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 No.130581

Why would anyone incarnate on earth just to suffer? Talking about mainly the people that kill themselves, people who's entire lives are nothing but suffering etc…

The theory that we come here to learn or experience it just doesn't make sense to me.

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 No.130583

>>130581

Learning to rise above pleasure and pain is vital to develop further as a spiritual being.

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 No.130584

>>130581

>The theory that we come here to learn or experience it just doesn't make sense to me.

Because this is complete and utter nonsense. It's bullshit and it's dangerous on top of that. Avoid newagers who spit out crap like this at all costs. Those love and light "earth is a school and you come here voluntarely" bastards are NOT your friends.

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 No.130586

>>130583

why would suffering be necessary if there's so many resources available now on spiritual topics already online. Why choose to incarnate into hell.

>>130584

Yeah you have to look at all after-life theories with a grain of salt, why do you think we're here?

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 No.130588

>>130581

>The theory that we come here to learn or experience it just doesn't make sense to me.

Because it's typical new age nonsense. Good on you for not believing it.

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 No.130596

>>130571

In order to experience 'gnosis', could this just be characterised by a deep level of trance? How does one truly know when they have experienced gnosis or if theyre on the correct path to do so?

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 No.130601

File: 9f9671fba8c10b5⋯.png (33.31 KB,320x240,4:3,JUMPPOP--Jumping Pop_Dec23….png)

I plan to make mp3 file with cool affirmation and brainwash myself 24/7, what kind of hemysinc frequencies i can use for affirmation's background?

Have found this program and presets http://isochronic.io/presets.php

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 No.130602

>>130573

What >>130579 said. These beings are often way easier to contact than you think. Yes, prayers, meditations on a symbol or something similar of theirs, offerings (which can literally be anything: food, drink, cigarettes, a drawing, poem, giving food to a homeless dude, literally whatever so long as the intention of the offering and the connection to that deity is more or less clear to you). However, in my experience, it is highly important to work on your self. A lot of these beings are interested in mankind's development and as such are more willing to work with you, if you are dedicated to working on yourself. Meaning, don't sycophant, just be respectful and open-minded. I read somewhere that, as a baseline, they will match your effort. I can recommend vkjehannum.wordpress.com as a great ressource for chants/rituals/hymns/general info on deities, aswell as essays on various topics. A lot of fucking info. You might not find what you are looking for just by scrolling through, so just google the deity of your choice and add "vk jehannum" and chances are he has an article on that spirit. He also has a "for beginners" section which is extremely helpful. Dude's a demonolater so it should be right up your alley. Be warned though. The "dark side" of the force being quicker, stronger, more seductive is not just a meme. There are said to be spirits that drive most men into a murderous rampage when summoned by someone basically too weak to handle their appearance. So just be humble and respectful and open-minded. If you're not absolute trash, and since you're already at such a place where such operations are plausible, you'll find your spirits that'll help you. They might shatter a paradigm or two but as the saying goes: a joke that the censor understands is not worth being told.

Be persistent and assertive and humble and you'll get it eventually.

Also, again what >>130579 is really important. Keep the wheels spinning and notice how they spin. Eventually you'll spin yourself.

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 No.130610

>>130596

What is meant by gnosis here is not the same gnosis as you might be familiar with from chaos. Here it's meant a revelatory state. One is apt to claim it as trance after the fact, but trance alone is not what is meant. Well, that's not quite true; someone who is very thirsty for it might claim they have attained communication with their higher self or some such thing, terms vary, but since they generally say similar stuff but in a wide variety of ways, someone who has really gotten it should be able to confirm. However, that is by no means necessary, gnosis of this sort is an overwhelming experience beyond your ability to doubt. Having others who have gotten it confirm it for you is a formality.

Gnosis is also the means by which absolute truths will reveal themselves to you. This will totally do away with you wondering which path is best for you, since you'll start to see them as variations, for better or worse, on a theme that you yourself can actually hear.

To make it easy on you, I'll reveal a bit about my own gnosis so you have something to compare it to, although when it happens to you, it won't be mistaken. "Big" gnosis has happened a handful of times to me. It kicks my ass, it is every bit as terrifying and exhilarating as Judgment makes it seem. The voice that comes to me is clearly in me but is exceptionally loud, not in terms of volume but in terms of the utter clarity of focus I have, it cuts through all other thought like the other thought wasn't there. It also is keenly interested in me not getting distracted; since I have a really degenerated anterior cingulate cortex, following a train of thought that way has always presented a challenge. Not during gnosis at all! It impels me in a particular direction that I now recognize as being paradise itself, or the direction of the all, that is, beyond limit, beyond my context, most especially it is interested in me going UP, OUT, WIDER. I can only use all caps for this, it would be disrespectful not to.

Some advice: First, you will need to undergo serious terror and a morbid experience or experiences comparable to death. Gnosis comes as a rebirth, and pretty much always will destroy your old idols or conceptions of a static god or highest something or other, in order to make you open to its message, which is in itself one of opening or spreading, fulfilling or reaching up, blooming, etc. It is an active voice and seems to treat worship with indifference if not annoyance; it does not appreciate being ossified into a set of secondhand principles, and so please take all this with a grain of salt, because this is going to be meaningless to you, really, until you've undergone it. Your respect of it is respected, but it cares only (more or less) about you paying attention to what it tells you. It will tell it to you in language you will understand best, or else language you will best understand later on; it sometimes gives terms in root languages that you don't speak, or might give you names of places or ideas you haven't yet known, this happened to me on a few occasions.

Don't give into dumb terror or astonishment, that's a waste of your limited time there. Listen to it, and let go of the panic that you will feel as you move through the morbid stages that are necessary to undergo beforehand. You need to go in to any ritual meant to open you to it with the mindset that you are moving up to the very top. Don't stop or be satisfied with anything, you will be mightily tempted to use your blissful states in order to get the rush of your life from all manner of distractions, but that's part of the death stage, don't stop there. Push through it. Things might get very weird and very upsetting but you have to push through and tell any state other than the ultimate that you aren't yet satisfied. You will know upon arrival, no doubt.

My advice, this is easier if you have some chemical means to boost yourself. Get some 5-HTP to jack up your serotonin, that will help considerably. Don't rely on them every time, just during the initial rituals.

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 No.130611

>>130610

Oops, deleted the "it's unmistakable" bit from before "well that's not quite true." What I mean is that someone who has attained gnosis will know, but someone who has not attained gnosis might try to delude themselves into thinking they've had it. A good rule of thumb, if you think you had it in the past and lost it, you didn't listen to it and you need to try again. It's a running conversation, not a one night stand.

Trance is almost always a necessary prerequisite unless it's sudden and unpredictable, but you should work toward rituals and practices to get to that state before you do it freestyle. You need to get familiar with the feeling of it. Once you do, you will be unable to be duped by fakes or charlatans promising you secondhand revelation.

Don't believe anything about "God" or the ultimate that others tell you. If you throw out the rest of my posts here, fine, so long as you retain this idea: You should only ever believe the ultimate, and you are the only one capable of knowing for yourself truly what that is. Anything anyone else ever says is either secondhand and was given to them for them specifically, or is thirdhand and can be dismissed as dogma, i.e. mostly worthless unless you are told otherwise by the ultimate. Only you can pick up that phone and get that message, it won't tell it to anyone else.

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 No.130612

>>130571

So then what sort of moral philosophy do the higher-density devils and such prescribe themselves to if not egoism?

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 No.130616

>>130612

They don't think that way past a certain point, at least, none of the higher-order ones do. Self/other is a dichotomy that fails to have application past a certain point, and so unless they have a set purpose that involves those, those distinctions and the morals which follow from them are not particularly important. It would be folly, I think, to suggest that they have anything resembling human moral systems as such. If they do, they would likely not make anything like sense to us. It's like a 2D person asking a 3D person about what happens when the 3D person's flat plane is intersected, it has very limited relevance.

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 No.130617

Say, are there any spells/chants/exercises/meditations/fucking anything I can perform to rid myself of echolalia? It's already grown to an uncomfortable degree and i'm willing to try anything to diminish or even outright rid myself of it.

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 No.130620

>>130612

I will say that they are very insistent upon empathy, but empathy as an extension and an expansion of the self. I mean thinking and feeling as someone considered "other" until they are felt as "self," rather than something condescending or merely sympathetic. Compassion, feeling with. This isn't nearly so moral or prescriptive as it seems, in fact, the only "moral" thing they've ever told me has been, singularly, "Empathy" as a name of the direction/mental movement which is in itself pleasure/fulfillment. They seen to be perfectly forgiving and loving and all that saccharine crap, though their feelings are extremely bizarre, their idea of love is true but almost totally alien in its expression. However, they make it clear that the direction is that beyond limits, and limits are pain unless you know how to transmute them. Genuine egotism and genuine altruism are the same, but they would never be known by those terms.

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 No.130624

>>130617

Work through the exercises in Energy Work by Robert Bruce, it should help. You can find it in the library link in the sticky.

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 No.130641

>>130530

Billy Brujo was a self-described "Chaos Black Magician" who made a long-running Youtube Series explaining magick practice. He had a series he called "Billy Brujo's Black Magick Cooking Show". He was very helpful. He became so popular he was guest on numerous Magick-related podcasts, and gave a guest speech to the contemporary Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn on Chaos Magick and self-made methods of Numerology.

He also made a children's series staring his servitor which was highly memetic. The first episode was made with a transparent and faint overlay of the "Steamed Clams" meme.

I was linking some of his videos to others to show them green pills, now I have no idea wtf happened.

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 No.130648

Hey Frin[redacted] Wiz[redacted] do you like the smell of weed? There are only two kinds of people, those who find the smell extremely repulsive like a dying skunk and those who love it; there's no inbetween.

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 No.130652

>>130648

Why cant it be both~~~

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 No.130656

>>130610

Wow, beautiful. Ok, I have definitely 100% had this experience. Without a doubt. The utterly soulshattering terror, followed by a death and a rebirth into the beauty of truth.

I need it again, and following your post suggests I must have lost it by not following truly with it.

Agreed about not stopping at all, laserlike focus upon the goal is what allowed me to experience it the first time, after being so unmistakably over the terrifying scenes that were being shown to me.

I experienced this with chemical help. I need to find a ritual to allow this without that as a crutch.

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 No.130662

>>130656

My advice, if you attained it using chemical help, repeat the ritual elements of taking chemical help, that is, treat it exactly as if you were going to trip or get high, then substitute with something that just barely tips off your system that you are in a slightly altered state, a completely token, symbolic amount of cannabis Will do. Just enough to feel but not enough to do anything else. Eventually and quickly you will do away with this, too, but for the time being it will serve as a catalyst.

I believe you'll be quite impressed by the results, especially if you do combine with 5-HTP or tryptophan beforehand to kick your tryptamines into gear. A full-blown DMT experience can be had by little more than the ritual of having taken it, but you must go into it with full gravity as if you were doing it in quite a real sense, because you will in actual fact be dosing yourself with your own neurotransmitters and opening yourself to them by undergoing the ritual elements of the vehicle that took you there the first time. Record and repeat with diminishing need for substance until ritual alone does it, then repeat with ritual until you can do it internally. Ask your higher self for easy means of contact and it will be granted to you. By now I can get there with no more than pen and paper for convenience, it doesn't take much after a little bit.

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 No.130665

Do you agree with liberals / Western leftists replacing the word "prostitution" with "sex work" to destigmatize and normalize it?

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 No.130666

>>130656

>>130662

Oh, and keep in mind, you should really only be trying to replicate chemical aid that you've actually taken before or have a vivid memory of taking. If you lack a strong emotional connection to it, my advice is to skip it. What's happening in terms of your mental mechanics is a simple association paired with the certainty that at first only ritual is going to grant you. Adepts are able to forego ritual partially or entirely if necessary or desired (it's discouraged but for reasons we don't have to get into here), partially because they are so familiar with the states in question that it becomes a matter of simple recall.

For this reason, repeat, repeat, repeat. Alan Watts, Thoth rest his soul, slipped up when he said that you should hang up the phone once you get the message. To the contrary, you should make sure to make that call as often as is convenient. This isn't to say that you should use psychedelics constantly by any means, only that it is by familiarity with these states and with the steps by which we get there that you will be able to have that be your background state. By no means are you to consider the conversation ever finished just because one instance is over, nor would you want to. So, repeat, repeat, repeat.

By the way, it is good that this seems familiar to you. An intense combination of simultaneous deja vu and jamais vu (in the sense of it being deeply alien to normal material sense) are strong indicators that you're on the right track, just don't stop even if you think you've made it. Look up rising Shepard tones, that's what you want to emulate, up without limits.

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 No.130681

There was some post about how memes and the universe works. I think the poster was from /x/.

Something about magic and physics combined. Once an idea is out there it is reflected into space by "forces" or something…

?????????????????????

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 No.130683

Astral parasites are considered to be higher density than normal humans since they're entirely non-physical, correct? So how come their consciousness is very unevolved compared to normal humans?

Same with thought forms, servitors, etc.

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 No.130688

>>130683

I'm just a neophyte, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Just like how humans are 'above' animals, plants, and objects, and yet, the majority of them are without 'spirits', I would say the same applies to thoughtforms, servitors, etc. The majority of thoughtforms could be 'spiritless', with a few chosen 'woke' thoughtforms, which I prefer to call tulpas (not neccesarily human-made. A dog biting it's tail could 'birth' a thoughtform that makes other dogs near it bite their tail. It could even be 'birthed' by an inanimate object. A major landslide could cause a thoughtform that makes more landslides, etc.). Think about it- the majority of thoughtforms on earth are created by 'unwoke' humans, though if the unwoke human pours enough loosh (energy) into it subconsiously, it could become a tulpa (I use the word tulpa to mean spirited thoughtform, not 'companion thoughtform/ 4d waifu'.) That doesn't mean that the entire astral is populated by 'normie' thoughtforms. In fact, as I've never astral projected, yet, I don't know if that is the case. I hypothesize that in the astral, it would be easier to 'notice a woke thoughtform/entity/whatever', as you could probably see their well developed energy body, while on Earth in 3d, unless you were already psychic, it would be hard to spot a non-npc/woke/conscious/etc human in a crowd in a big city. I reckon different astral realms would have a different ratio of 'woke'-'unwoke' thoughtforms/entities/etc.

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 No.130690

>>130363

kek if only.

Me again >>130336

I'm feeling the worst I've ever felt I can't sit and focus on anything, I've started meditating 20 minutes at a time and I have some really good sessions and feel refreshed but sadness and negativity quickly overwhelms me. I feel so hopeless about everything I don't know how to combat these feelings. Work has been stressful and tough I don't enjoy my free time anymore I stress about how much time left before I need to sleep so I can wake up early and do it all over again. I've started working out again and I am currently fasting to reboot my diet. I wish I could go to a retreat somewhere and live among a /fringe/ crowd or with mystics and heal myself and develop my spirtuality because lord knows I can't do it on my own.

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 No.130699

File: 194a2a48f1af31a⋯.jpg (845.59 KB,1263x1920,421:640,1556719545556.jpg)

I heard chansey got knocked up and popped out a babby from >>>/4chon/

is that true?

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 No.130704

Is there any decent left hand path that actually focuses on what it should(evolving as a separate entity from god/ the all) instead of being a snake oil tier underage larp?

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 No.130705

File: 4c08739b73a172f⋯.jpg (262.11 KB,700x597,700:597,1542824349164030294.jpg)

>>130704

Are you god?

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 No.130706

What are some good /fringe/-tier books on Egyptian mythology? A lot of western occultism is based on it.

I picked up an ebook on supposed Egyptian myths, but they're incomplete and seemingly meaningless. Tells me nothing about Horus and shit, just wacky happenings.

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 No.130711

>>130704

You won't find a path like that because your criteria is impossible to fulfill.

>As a separate entity from God

That should, or at least could already be the case if you mean a specific deity distinct from your ego.

>As a separate entity from the all

Impossible. You'll just end up separating from some fixed mental thing you labeled "the all," but the second you do so, no matter the end result, you're still part of it, you just label yourself otherwise. It isn't fixed and it can't be interacted with like an object or even a principle. It doesn't act like a god, it is not a god, it is not a thing. The second you would go to escape it, you would find yourself in it, just as the second you would go to meet it, you would find that you can never do so. Disagree with this if you like, but you'll have an easier time finding a path if you refine your goals.

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 No.130717

There was some post about how memes and the universe works. I think the poster was from /x/.

Something about magic and physics combined. Once an idea is out there it is reflected into space by "forces" or something…

?????????????????????

There was some post about how memes and the universe works. I think the poster was from /x/.

Something about magic and physics combined. Once an idea is out there it is reflected into space by "forces" or something…

?????????????????????

There was some post about how memes and the universe works. I think the poster was from /x/.

Something about magic and physics combined. Once an idea is out there it is reflected into space by "forces" or something…

?????????????????????

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 No.130718

Why is it necessary for "the all" to exist? Why couldn't the universe(s) itself be eternal, cycling between entropy and negentropy according to the principal of rhythm, of its own accord?

I suppose it makes sense to me if the All were to refer merely to the universe itself as the largest macrocosm. But the reasons in the Kybalion for why this couldn't be the case (that The All must be a mind in which we exist) don't seem to hold up once they declare that The All must be above causality. If that is the case it undermines any sort of reasoning at all in determining even the minutest part of its nature.

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 No.130722

File: 263e92d43885c58⋯.jpg (12.53 KB,253x255,253:255,4cc85f507d07ba9cd1d8e7c22f….jpg)

im looking for the fire /100/ wizard emoji meme, im starting a youtube channel and this is gonna be my profile pic. t ancap bro

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 No.130728

>>130718

The ALL exists in the same way that the horizon exists but you can never actually reach it. Describing it as the mind in which we are all thoughts relates to the world as mental. Think of it this way, you can never know it except by having sense of it in your head, thus on a very primitive level it is "all in your head," mental. But, the all is always that which is just beyond your concept of it, because as soon as a concept of it is formed, something more can be added or changed to the thought, and that too must be a part of ALL.

Consider that every neuron in your head is capable of info storage and transmission producing thought, that is, inclusion of that information in your mental state. Now consider what would happen if you treated every human brain as neurons or thinking nodes. Now consider what would happen if we added primates, dolphins, dogs, pigs, corvids, higher-thinking animals. Now consider adding all animals with any brains at all. Individually, no neuron knows itself to be a neuron involved in a brain, so it's useless to ask a neuron in the brain about neurons in total, unless you get VERY lucky and find some neuron or group of them specifically coding the thought "I am a brain/neuron," and even then, how would it be asked a question or respond if it knows nothing else, no context in which to place its info?

Asking a brain about it is much easier, a brain can know itself. Now let's consider our planetary brain. It would be far more capable than any single neuron within it. But even that would pale in comparison to what a solar system-scale brain would think like. Etc.

For another example, consider a brain of something so powerful and vast as to contemplate all things and their relations. It could so fully and accurately think of the world and all constituent parts and their relations that its thought of the world would be exactly as accurate and detailed and experientially real as the real world. Could a thought-person inside know themselves as thoughts, as the thoughts of a larger thinker? Suppose one of them had a thought about a being so smart it could think just like the first thinker. Which thinker is bigger if they both contain it all?

Think about this and then re-read the Kybalion.

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 No.130737

>>130728

bullshit occultist.

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 No.130739

>>130737

What kind of answer are you expecting to a question like that?

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 No.130746

File: c8b930c8bb2c817⋯.png (4.18 KB,32x32,1:1,Hellenic.png)

Hellenic pagan flag when?

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 No.130749

>>130746

Cringe. Also make it transparent and the actual required size and they'll probably add it.

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 No.130751

File: 0b613cf74c8fbb1⋯.png (38.12 KB,1200x1068,100:89,1200px-Hellenism_symbol.sv….png)

>>130749

Strange, it worked fine when I posted it on other boards.

Maybe this symbol would be more appropriate since the other is from ck2

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 No.130752

>>130737

How did you post without a flag?

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 No.130760

>>130699

I heard you're bannable under rule 8 and need to fuck off back to the cancerous drama-filled place you came from rather than letting it spill into here.

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 No.130761

File: d9b06b0d16f9fde⋯.gif (616.86 KB,498x498,1:1,971.gif)

So if the demiurge and it's archons are the creators and controllers of the material world. What would be so bad about worshipping it/them? Consider the trade off, you either transcend the material into your hippy happiness dimention, or you try to at least have some fun while you're here(that's considering you get kick ass rewards or powers from pledging allegiance to archons, from the way our world leaders and celebrities are it would seem so).

If you can't beat em, join em yknow?

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 No.130766

>>130761

A majority of the world already does that and it doesn't do them much good, in fact usually it does them a great deal of bad. The demiurge is a huge butthole who will never, ever be satisfied with your service and will hand your spirit over to be buttfucked over the slightest infraction of his endless and contradictory list of nonsense rules designed to keep you as low as possible because that's what empowers him.

By the way, the evidence that world leaders actually serve him in any strict sense is dubious, they might say they serve god and all, but clearly they worship themselves if they worship anything.

Their goals for nicely in with the demiurge, though. Rather than worship him, they would encourage his worship in others since worship of the demiurge encourages the majority of the population to retain the power structures that serve an elite minority.

Basically it's a bad idea, there are better alternatives if you want material stuff.

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 No.130770

>>130766

>there are better alternatives if you want material stuff.

such as?

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 No.130771

I'm having a hard time figuring out what path I want to follow…

I am distrustful of the whole bible and right hand path spirits but I am also too pussy to go full on left hand path, I guess because I am afraid that those spirits might fuck me up and at the end of my life I possibly might end up in hell because who knows what actually happens when you die.

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 No.130776

What is dreaming and how does it relate to astral projection?

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 No.130782

>>130704

Esoteric Hitlerism. We're one of the few who offer a real philosophical framework for initiation into Godhood. What you seek is Kaivalya, separation–not Samadhi, union.

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 No.130784

>>130782

>being a politisperg

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 No.130800

What's /fringe/'s opinion on Akinson? Is his book on mental fascination any good? I'm curious about this charismatic, cult-leaderesque type of phenomena; a look in the eyes inspires loyalty, etc. Atkinson's book on the subject is the only one I've found so far. Is Atkinson and "Mental Fascination" in particular any good? Any other suggested readings on the topic?

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 No.130801

What's the reasoning for the demiurge or it's archons existing and it being the god that is described by the abrahamic religions? It's always written in a way over-complicated manner and isn't completely convincing.

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 No.130806

>>130801

Christians can't accept the existence of a Source that isn't omnibenevolent so they took the negative and dense parts of the Source and called it 'Demiurge'. In reality 'Demiurge' and 'Monad' are the same thing.

This also ties into the right-hander delusion that doing anything other than killing your individuality and crawling back to the Source will cause you to devolve in some way.

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 No.130808

What can I do to build and strengthen my sexual energy and lust, how can I have more of it???

I guess do the whole NoFap thing but I am wondering what else can I do..

I've heard that masturbating and stopping right before ejaculation builds some sexual energy but I think that thats also pretty risky if you accidentally cum you'll lose a lot of energy…

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 No.130809

>>130808

Energy work on naval chakra.

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 No.130833

File: 4f0f9319ad2ea2c⋯.jpg (28.28 KB,400x318,200:159,navalchakra.jpg)

>>130808

Do reverse breathing while imagining energy coming into your crotch on the inhale, and nothing on the exhale (optionally imagine dirty energy going out and clean, brilliant energy coming in). Reverse breathing consists of compressing the abdomen while inhaling through the mouth and expanding while breathing out through the nose. Try not to move your chest; try to do abdominal breathing even though you are actually compressing the abdomen while inhaling. And try to keep your perineum tensed up during the whole cycle.

This exercise done correctly will pump you up like crazy.

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 No.130834

>>130808

If you find >>130833 confusing or hard, try inhaling through your nose while pulling up your perineum into your expanding abdomen and while you exhale through your mouth, compress your abdomen, keep your perineum up and imagine the energy getting compressed into your genital area.

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 No.130836

File: d4dccff697ffc97⋯.jpeg (200.44 KB,471x480,157:160,3C8C25FE-8509-4B82-A260-2….jpeg)

I’m sick of being conscious in a world full of happy drugged up goyim. Sick of knowing at least to a certain extent how fucked up human existence is and how flawed our thinking really is. Sick of people seeing what they want to see where they lack the evidence to discard uncomfortable possibilities. Fucking sick of not really knowing what’s going on behind the curtain in society nor in reality and the afterlife. Sick of knowing more than I can handle. If thre is a god or a higher self, FUCK YOU for cursing me, for offering me the red pill with no chance of knowing what I was getting myself into and no warnings. Next time you can shove it up your ass.

I want out. I want the blue pill. I want to go back to being a materialist and an atheist, and I absolutely don’t want an ambiguous immortality of the soul dangled in front of me. I rather go into oblivion than live tortured by not knowing whether there is a second death, not knowing whete our identities or out memories go before we incarnate, if there is reincarnation at all.

And please, shove your “knowledge” about the nature of the soul or the afterlife up your kind ass as well. Nobody knows for sure, and anyone who says he does is lying to himself like a coward, and that’s the point.

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 No.130837

>>130836

kinda based, but what you can do is utilize magick to uncover deeper secrets of governments and the occult

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 No.130839

>>130837

It’s all bullshit. Smoke and mirrors. I just wanted to vent, but I certainly don’t want ideas for getting into deeper despair.

I literally want to bluepill myself for good. Can anyone tell me how to go about this without killing myself?

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 No.130851

>>130839

Why don't you want to kill yourself? It's a valid choice. It's a logical choice.

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 No.130855

>>130839

Dude just give your body up for possession to some other entity so it can have it. Don't waste your body by damaging it. You can escape this world without ruining your body which could be used by something else that wants it.

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 No.130856

>>130836

>And please, shove your “knowledge” about the nature of the soul or the afterlife up your kind ass as well. Nobody knows for sure, and anyone who says he does is lying to himself like a coward, and that’s the point.

Wrong, idiot. There's also ways to personally verify these things, don't you can't prove it to others who don't accept your mere authority, you can certainly know beyond a doubt the facts about these things for yourself.

You are in that uncomfortable phase of just knowing enough to suffer but still being too ignorant to thrive. You must push on and all this suffering will be behind you, forever.

You need to study epistemology and gnosis and the kinds of knowledge and the ancient greeks more btw.

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 No.130861

>>130770

Practically anything, really. He might be the one who trapped you here but he's not the one necessarily ruling even all of this plane. The demiurge doesn't generally give material success out, and expressly forbids methods which grant you what you actually desire. This is a board about esoteric wizardry, maybe start with any other deity than the figure which forbids esoteric wizardry and see how that goes.

PS prayer doesn't work, not the way mundanes do it, anyways. If you want something, you have to make your expectations and terms clear. Even simple sigil work that you would give to an occultist on day one will grant you more material success than asking the demiurge.

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 No.130878

Is palm reading legitimate?

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 No.130879

>>130878

Not really. Any method of divination can be used as a focus to pick up impressions, but there are some methods which are much better at this than others, and some which, like palmistry, exist in their current form pretty much just to bilk cash out of gullible mundanes.

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 No.130882

File: 5e48f84b5287e9b⋯.png (1.01 MB,640x640,1:1,alexgrey.png)

Back in 2015 there was a thread that was posted in response to an influx of users from other boards (namely pol). It was a break down of the true nature of reality and a general overview and explanation of "the green pill". It was in the format of a series of paragraphs each as a separate reply to the post and each of them accompanied by images similar to pic related (in fact I'm quite certain pic related was one of the featured images).

The only other thing I can firmly remember is the final paragraph ending with OP mentioning they wrote up the whole post whilst they were washing their clothes. I'd like to read that post again so if anyone reading has a copy of it I'd appreciate a link.

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 No.130883

>>130856

I thought like you not long ago. You can’t be sure of anything. You can never be sure that your “verified knowledge” is not self-deception. Ever. Because reality itself is self-deception. Truth is illusion and nothing really exists, thus nothing really matters except for when you fancy playing games. Spiritual nihilism. Fuck me.

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 No.130888

File: be8cd7ad7bc1eec⋯.png (65.9 KB,480x608,15:19,willyoufight.png)

>>130883

But if everything is self-deception, then even spiritual nihilism is that, and dangerous and destructive at that. If Free Will is an illusion it certainly is a highly empowering illusion. Meaning the fact that it is illusory is completely unimportant because even the concept of importance itself is an illusion. Pic related. Don't give in to the nihilism if it's sole purpose is to make you want to stay in your cage, i.e. if it serves as an excuse for why you shouldn't fight and explore. I'm a neophyte at best and I know that one cannot live wholly without chains, but that one can at the very least choose the illusion of having chosen one's own tailor-made chains. Experiential value is ultimately the most valuable and the only one that counts. If I can see pretty colours in my head, does it matter at all whether it is purely self-deceptive? I CAN see colours in my head, I have the experience of doing so over and over, so why should I care whether it is self-deceptive in nature? Also, you make playing games sound like a vapid and meaningless thing. Have you never played a game so serious you sweated your balls off? Get into betting and you'll know what I mean when I say that there are utterly meaningless and yet incredibly serious and intense games. Nihilism and relativism of the "who cares you can't prove it so you shouldn't even try to experience it" kind is exactly the type of sickness that (((they))) have inflicted on mankind for ages. It makes you a worm in contrast to those people with the confidence and ambition to ride the tiger like the bitch she is.

Will you fight, or will you perish like a dog, anon?

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 No.130890

>>130888

We will both perish like dogs in due time, regardless of us fighting or not. That's my point. I'm all about having fun in the astral and the physical, but for all we know we are cows in the slaughterhouse, minding our own businesses until the slaughter comes.

I don't care about chains. I care about being forced into ignorance. It's a solipsist bind, I realize that, so we are not going to come to a satisfactory conclusion. Leave me alone.

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 No.130891

Moreover, consider the following, assuming that we can know anything at all.

After your body dies, your soul will enter a long dream called the Bardo, in which it will be slowly and painstakingly mutilated. Each piece of your accumulated life experience will be discarded or eaten up by “god” for its own growth, until your soul is reduced to a state of babbling idiocy (literally) and shoved into a baby body so it can continue “growing”, tortured in this manner for literal millions of years. Cue in the imbecilic New Age deception about “letting go of attachment” and “being one with the all”. Yeah, the chicken I had for lunch is one with me now as well, and it believed we were its friends right up till the end. What a fucking joke.

I wish we would open our eyes and realize we are FUCKED on a cosmic scale, and started looking for a solution.

That is, of course, if that’s the situation at all, because we’re kept in a maze of mirrors our entire existence, during and after life.

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 No.130914

>>130891

>I know that my explanation of the world is an interchangeable illusion that should be changed out as it suits me but I still willingly choose to believe in the edgiest and stupidest possible world I can

I sure believe God are your brains because only a tremendous moron could have used such a good insight for such a stupid purpose. Call us when you graduate middle school.

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 No.130915

>>130891

>Nobody knows for sure, and anyone who says he does is lying to himself like a coward

>>130891

>proceeds to explain what happens after you die

Cognitive dissonance much?

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 No.130917

So does karma exist or not? I don't get it

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 No.130918

Is it possible to develop Shiddis or powers or some shit to alter my form as I see fit? If so, how and how long would it take and is there any catches

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 No.130919

>>130917

Depends. Feel free to correct me: It exists in the newtonic sense of action-reaction. However, attaching morality to it is tricky because moral karma has been and still is used to justify bullshit like caste systems. Especially past-life karma, similar to original sin. "oh you're a peasant that isn't worth the dirt under the nobleman's shoes? you deserve it because you were a really shitty person in a past life". In my opinion complete bullshit.

However, if you fuck with someone and that someone is near and dear to some powerful force that does not approve of you fucking with their protégé, then expect some retribution. That would be karma. However, if you have also a force on your side, that force will fuck with the other force. And so on ad infinitum. The problem is that it creates a vicious circle of eye-for-an-eye. The point is of course to break that cycle by gaining "good" karma, but that is still patently bullshit in my opinion because then you're doing good only with the expectation of receiving good, rather than doing it out of compassion. There are countless genuinely good people that get shit on constantly for no other apparent reason than "coincidence" or "bad karma". In the view of karmic ideology that genuinely good person still deserves it. Which, again in my view, is utter bullshit.

I should add, and again feel free to correct me, that it highly depends on belief. Foremost your individual belief, and then the collective belief out of which your own crystallizes. Since the majority of people do believe in the morality-karma concept in one way or another, you would need a strong individual will to trump that. So, if you do something that your individual belief takes to be "good", but the collective belief takes to be "evil", you might still get punished if your individual belief in the goodness of your action does not trump the collective belief in the badness of it.

The point being: don't worry too much about it. What happened really was supposed to happen, but only marginally. Reality is made up of probabilities one gets closer to or farther away from. One example of the idiocy of morality-karma would be a father driving his child to the hospital, on which drive he accelerates heavily and causes a crash in which someone else dies. Does the father now deserve all the bad things that might happen to him? He was careless, but he was trying to save his kid from dying. Morality makes everything tricky and turns most things into an eye-for-an-eye shitshow. Ultimately it's a social control tool in my view.

Doesn't mean do whatever the fuck you want without ethical consideration obviously. It just means that you should look beyond good and evil. The serpent coiled around the flying eagle's neck as a friend, not a foe, as Nietzsche said.

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 No.130920

>>130918

Shapeshifting is practiced in one form or another in nearly every culture. However, to make lasting changes you would have to not just change the outward appearance, but quite literally your genetic material.

>how long would it take

Silly question whose answer depends entirely on you. Just in principle you could probably learn it in one afternoon but you'd have to have the absolutest dedication of a god. Some people learn reading books at age 2, some at age 10, some never learn it. Dedication, will, maybe providence. That's what counts.

>any catches

If your fractured selves aren't integrated properly you might find yourself doing stuff you didn't really approve of. Moreover, you might find that it gets out of your conscious control.

In any case, you would probably want to start small, like changing the length of one of your nails, or changing your hair colour.

That said, have at it anon. The world is yours.

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 No.130921

>>130920

Thank you for the reply. I know in Ireland we have legends of shapeshifting. Usually into animals. But I wouldn't go that far.

So where do I even start?

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 No.130922

File: a787f9aaf438fab⋯.png (613.58 KB,530x786,265:393,PepedevouringhisWOjak.png)

>>130921

Beats me. Myth can be a good starting point if there is some procedure depicted. Or you can look at the character doing the shifting and try to emulate their mindset. In any case, you will have to visualize yourself in the desired form and feel it as vividly as you can. There are probably spells that help with that. There are a bunch of demons that can teach you this type of stuff aswell, so you could look through a grimoire. The Goetia is a good starting point, but I'd personally discard the mindset that these beings would only want to hurt you and mess with you.

May I ask what changes you are looking for? Height, penis length, fullness of hair, eye colour, that sort of thing?

Pic somewhat related. Think of prince charming, or Zeus shapeshifting into swans and bulls to get some puss.

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 No.130923

>>130922

>Demons

I think i'd like to stay away from that shit, not messing with that.

> May I ask what changes you are looking for?

Well all of those things I wouldn't mind since you mentioned it. But I just want to be able to do it just to know I can, because if you can do that then you KNOW the whole thing is an illusion and it could take me deeper, maybe I could transcend. But I would probably enhance my body in subtle ways because why wouldn't you

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 No.130928

>>130921

The foundation of all magic is visualization. It's necessary for you to build up a level of mental control far beyond most people, and if you aim to change your body at will you're going to need to develop the ability to change your mind at will. Start out with a routine of meditation and introspection. Read Initiation into Hermetics and Magical Use of Thoughtforms for ideas.

Be aware that it will probably take quite a while for you to see any plainly supernatural results, but you'll start to feel the positive effects on your mind pretty quickly after starting, if you keep at it.

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 No.130942

>>130928

Ok thanks. I'd imagine creating an imagine in my head and meditating on that image would be a good exercise? There is a meditation were you visualize and it trains your minds eye to be clear and vivid i've often heard

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 No.130944

File: 4a3a6dc3d3d08d2⋯.png (254.37 KB,802x459,802:459,ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.130948

>>130944

Has anyone here actually achieved full color open eyed hallucination of a circle even? I am under the impression that everyone on /fringe/ just repeats the same memes in an armchair fashion.

Can anyone post proof of shapeshifting, even something minor? That would help me wa lot with incredulity.

>>130914

>my explanation of the world is an interchangeable illusion that should be changed out as it suits me

Anon are you saying what happens when we die depends on our beliefs? I don’t get it.

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 No.130949

>>130944

Thats the one

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 No.130952

>>130948

>achieved full color open eyed hallucination

Yes. It really isn't that hard once your third eye is open. The shape doesn't matter at some point. That stuff is just to get you started. Moreover its purpose is to open your sight astrally, it doesn't do much in itself for the other senses such as touch and hearing. However, while visualizing there may come up some associated sounds or feelings. Following those intuitions are a good way to develop the other senses aswell.

>depends on our beliefs

Not the anon you replied to, but yes most likely. I've heard that there is no light after death, and that the light you see while dying are predatory entities, similar to those deep-sea creatures with lamps on their head to lure you in.

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 No.130953

>>130952

But which one is it? There are predators or there is anything according to your belief?

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 No.130954

>>130953

Both. It is just that you choose whichever or it is chosen for you and by you according to your strongest beliefs. If you believe that the light you see at death is uniformly heaven, that's what you'll choose. That's the vibration your soul will match most closely. Whether or not that's actually heaven is a different matter but of little importance.

Then again, who knows. A wholly convinced atheist might literally stop existing entirely as the atoms that made him up are now dispersed. Or they might not and his soul might just fall into a sort of coma.

>But which one is it?

Both. Murphy's law coupled with quantum mechanics makes for a bit of a headache but this universe is infinite.

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 No.130955

File: 6bd0e03e4ce2622⋯.png (231.63 KB,640x480,4:3,63cd04605667755afa2c77a112….png)

I am really interested in shapeshifting as well, actually what I want is a new body .

I am a beginner still trying to do the quiet mind meditation properly (it feels like stopping breathing and I can't hold long enough )

But weird things happened which makes me think it is definitely possible to change my body , before I started meditating my mind was a whirlwind of insane thought that I had to fight against , I remember last summer hearing a voice in my head telling me : it would be great to have "disease name" don't you think ? Had the mental image of it, and yup it happened , I was

Constantly fighting things like this trying to convince these voices all the time .

8 month ago more or less I was playing skyrim, some mods, a realistic texture for the body and the face, made a character basically a body that I found appealing , a few month later my sister told me that I had new beauty spots on my face, all of them on my face are actually from the character i created, same place same size…

It's an issue since I can't control it and I am obsessed with some peoples appearance because I hate my body and can't experience life as I want with it, it is dangerous if things like this can happen though .

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 No.130956

>>130952

How long did it take you to achieve visualizations that can actually block normal vision? I can do pretty good visualization in my imagination after two years of biweekly practice, but nothing hallucinatory yet.

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 No.130958

>>130956

Hard to say how long but a few weeks at most actually more like a few days if that, but time gets weird with this stuff and that was about 5 months ago. I also did it most, if not everyday. I also didn't exactly practice the hallucinatory stuff explicitly. For example, I saw the merkabah before I knew what it was. I also had the pushing-out-then-pulling-in feeling of opening the third eye a good while before I knew explicitly that that was a thing. But both of these things happened as a by-product of doing visualizations and other techniques. I found that one of the best things for getting these visions is to stare at sigils until they glow or blur or vanish. Any meditation with open eyes really will do the trick but atleast at the beginning your eyes will wander which is why a focal point is helpful.

Also, as you can imagine, the hallucinatory stuff comes in degrees. It might start as small sort of tentacles coming off the focal point, or lines moving if you're looking at something more complex. When you're looking at it and see it move you might want to doubt it or explain it away, but if you think you actually saw something, then you very likely did.

>how long

Idk man, how long did it take you to learn to walk? To speak? To ride a bike? Sometimes I learn stuff in an afternoon, sometimes in a month, sometimes never. Just do it with open eyes. That's how you overlay the inner eye with the outer.

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 No.130959

File: e3d22e5978440a7⋯.png (22.06 KB,500x500,1:1,me and my own by me.png)

>>130955

Really interesting. From a general standpoint I would say you manifested atleast the disease from your shadow. You should want to get that more under control before you move on because if it isn't properly integrated similar stuff like the disease manifestation might happen.

Or don't, your prerogative.

However, that you manifest beauty spots from a character you created is actually good because it is testament to your potential. What do you mean though by "new body". Literally a different body, or an enhanced body? In principle both are possible but enhancing your body is probably way easier. I would recommend drawing as vividly as possible those changes you want. Whether in Skyrim or on paper or whereever. You could combine that with some other practice like sigil crafting or mantra work. Maybe something like "my dick is big" and then visualizing the size you want. Or "my hair is full", "my ass is round", whatever you want. And then put that into a sigil, or say it as a mantra and visualize feel the changes happening, your breasts growing, your scalp filling etc.

>it is dangerous

Yes, but madness is the admission price for this stuff. Trust yourself anon. Confidence is the neuro-technology of success. That you managed to both get the disease and the beauty spots really is incredible. The disease tells you to be careful and to control your mind, the beauty spots tell you that you can do it subconsciously more or less easily. Control your mind to focus positively and you will achieve your goals. Also shadow integration.

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 No.130960

So let me get this straight. You can't actually alter your body but you can alter your mind to think you've altered your body? Or visualizing so hard can literally change your body?

If the second, does this mean you can shape shift very freely or does this mean you can activate a placebo effect to change your body but only limited in accordance to your bodies biology (what ever the human body structure allows for)?

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 No.130961

>>130960

No, you're actually altering your body. The mind has immense power to change the body, even from a materialist's standpoint.

Examples:

A sixteen year old boy with Brocq's disease, a genetic condition that causes painful hardening of the skin, was cured through hypnotism.

http://www.bbk.ac.uk/hiddenpersuaders/blog/albert-mason-medicine-magic-hypnotism/

A man was cured of terminal cancer through the use of a placebo (tricking his mind into thinking that he was cured), but after discovering that it was a placebo his cancer came back.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/13/science/placebos-prove-so-powerful-even-experts-are-surprised-new-studies-explore-brain.html

Notice that in the Brocq's disease example the expression of the subject's DNA is actually being changed. It's not just curing an illness, it's curing a genetic flaw.

And then you have the recurrence of "serial killers" who claimed to be able to shapeshift into animals such as wolves (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Blanco_Romasanta), so common that doctors had to come up with a term for the belief that one can turn oneself into a wolf – lychanthropy.

Now, I doubt that visualization on its own will be enough to fully affect transformation, but it's a vital foundation. You'll need to develop methods and techniques for interacting with the spirit, and eventually for using the spirit to directly affect the physical. There's a lot of books in the fringe library on this.

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 No.130962

>>130960

No no. You can't seperate mind from body. You can both alter your mind to "only think" you've changed your body, but you can alter your mind to actually change your body. People with multiple personality disorder can have personalities with literally different biology, such that one person has diabetes f.e. and another has ocd or tourettes (both of which manifest physically), even though both those personalities are part of the same body and therefore technically of the same biological blueprint.

>does this mean you can shape shift very freely

Technically yes but you are given a lot of "protections"/barriers that keep you from accessing your full potential. I imagine to fully shapeshift you would need a highly disciplined will. The problem is that you're human, and most likely you don't know what it's like to be anything else but human. Therefore your mind is very very accustomed to the body you were born with. Meaning that, in principle, there are parts in you that really don't want to do this stuff just because it's safer not to.

>>130961 I second this. Your mind is your life is the universe.

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 No.130963

>>130961

>>130962

I see. I have heard of both cases you linked>>130961

I know that the placebo effect is full time active, so you don't want to think ill of yourself.

So in theory does this mean you can greatly extend your life span if you master it?

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 No.130964

> One of the five children of Miguel Blanco and María Romasanta, he was born on 18 November 1809 in Regueiro, Esgos, Ourense province.[citation needed] Manuel Blanco Romasanta was originally named Manuela as it was initially thought that he was female. He was raised as a girl until the age of six when a doctor reassigned his sex.[citation needed]At the age of eight his family legally changed his name

LMFAO

Maybe she shape shifted into a dude

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 No.130966

>>130963

>extend your life span

Yes. There are animals whose biology is set up to be immune to old-age. Scientists are working to essentialize that function so as to make humans immortal through medical means. The mind being basically a god-machine means you can achieve the same results through purely mental means.

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 No.130969

>>130966

>you can achieve the same results through purely mental means

Is that speculation (I agree would be a logical assumption to make) or do you have the means to prove it or prove it to ourselves?

>>130964

In that time and in those places, the doctor maybe saw the baby once, maybe never even handled it directly. All that's needed is for a midwife to say nothing and a mother to assure everyone her baby is a girl and that boy is raised as a girl until the time the difference is made apparent to everyone.

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 No.130970

>>130969

Both. Speculation because I haven't done it knowingly (I'm barely 20 so no need yet), but based on 1. said research about lobster and jellyfish lifespans and 2. on the fact that the quest for immortality is one of the oldest motifs in myth. The philosopher's stone is one such "device" to become immortal, and it is universally agreed that the philosopher's stone is much more a state of being than anything else. Your mind is that stone.

Anything concerning proof is difficult. I know a woman in her 70s that smokes atleast 2 packs of cigarettes a day and has been doing so for the last 40 years easily (she knows my mom from childhood and my mom said she smoked that much already back then). She doesn't have any breathing, muscle or bone problems, doesn't even have old-age cancer, doesn't have any alzheimers and isn't senile. She worked in sales and later as a janitor until she retired and didn't do and still doesn't do any sports. According to all known laws of aviation, this woman should be dead or atleast severely impaired. She isn't. I find that to be evidence enough that mainstream materialist science doesn't know half as much as they're pretending to. How would you imagine proof to look like? You can do the rice jar experiment and diminish or lengthen the best-by date of rice. You can definitely do the same or something similar with humans. Get 3 jars of rice. One you leave as a control subject, one you speak positive affirmations "I love you rice" etc into, one you speak negative affirmations into, for a few minutes everyday. The results are staggering.

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 No.130972

Are souls androgenous, or do they have gender? Is there some polarity of soul that determines the corporeal gender?

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 No.130973

Anyone got any book recommendations on hypnosis for both yourself and on others?

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 No.130978

>>130948

The experience of dying is observer-dependent, yes. That doesn't mean there are no patterns, there are crosscultural patterns, but the interpretations of them are almost always colored by culture, unless they are so alien as to defy definition. People reporting NDEs and those who have died for a period of time before being revived have reported a wide plethora of experiences that depend strongly on the individual's level of familiarity with mythology, etc. For example, protestant Christians see protestant heaven, while in one case, a guy from Kentucky familiar with Greek mythology had an extremely close brush with death and saw Sharon remove his hood to show that he was an extremely aged Huck Finn. People who are lucky or unlucky enough to have multiple NDEs can have multiple kinds of experiences depending upon their education in life.

Note that I am not saying it is across the board, the results can be extremely odd, but the notion of some universal black nothing that must be In some way undergone after death is nonsense. Whether or not you believe in souls or some kind of afterlife, certainly the interpretation of events surrounding death are as varied as those who die.

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 No.130979

File: 7fffe3cdae3df4e⋯.png (458.63 KB,709x582,709:582,ClipboardImage.png)

What are some good magick books not in the recommended reading list? I've read a few WWA ones but I hate his writing style.

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 No.130982

>>130973

The Art of Covert Hypnosis

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 No.130983

>>130970

Yeah, you’re right, but there’s a difference between aging and death. Death is a whole separate thing from aging. That’s why I wonder if it’s beyond the point.

Retarding rice due date is a matter of keeping mold from growing and bacteria from eating the rice. The body is infinitely more complex. And again, death has more to do with the deepest aspects of being and reality than the deterioration of the body.

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 No.130984

File: de6869472432c84⋯.png (687.34 KB,720x540,4:3,15574018130068.png)

>>130959

>You should want to get that more under control before you move on

because if it isn't properly integrated similar stuff like the disease manifestation might happen.

Yes I should definitely start with that .

>What do you mean though by "new body". Literally a different body, or an enhanced body?

A brand new healthy body is my real goal , but yeah my actual body but healthier and prettier could be "ok"

>I would recommend drawing as vividly as possible those changes you want. Whether in Skyrim or on paper or wherever You could combine that with some other practice like sigil crafting or mantra work.

Thanks! my visualisation is not really good so this is better.

but I wonder what are the limitations? growing,or having bigger hips sounds easier than the opposite for example .

>Also shadow integration.

Could you please elaborate on that?

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 No.130985

Anyone have any no-nonsense occult book recommendations?

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 No.130987

>>130984

A brand new body would probably require switching dimensions or literally occupying another body by invading it with your astral body. Both are possible I believe but good methods for this are most likely hidden and only some secret societies know how to do it properly.

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 No.130989

>>130984

I second >>130987 Invading another body is also bad juju if you believe in moral karma.

>my visualisation is not really good

No worries. Some things vibe better than others. However, I would personally recommend to keep up with the visualisation and to combine that with mantra or sigil work. You still have to "see" the desired outcome to infuse the mantra or sigil with that energy. "see" as in feel or experience. It's about being vivid not picture-perfect.

>what are the limitations?

Only the limitations you accept basically.

>easier than the opposite for example

Meh. There is no up in space. Only forward. In principle it should be as easy to widen your hips as to shorten them. The only real difference is the direction of your energy. Whether you're adding or taking away doesn't really matter because when you're adding you're still taking away and vice-versa.

>shadow integration

Sure. The shadow is generally held to be the supressed part of your personality. Did you ever do or say something where afterwards you felt like "woah, I didn't know I have that kind of darkness in me". If so, that's the shadow. Kinks, traumas, generally the stuff you were taught by parents and peers to be taboo, all that goes into your shadow. The goal of shadow integration is for these darker mysteries of the soul to be less mysterious so as to have them under control. Jung basically popularized the concept and wrote some good stuff, Jordan Peterson imo explains it pretty well.

My personal favourite technique for shadow integration is looking at a darkened mirror for some time but shit gets spooky fast so it's not for the faint of heart. On top of that it's a sort of gambling thing because I never know exactly what aspect, what hurtful memory, my shadow is going to spit out for me to labor over. Probably the best method in general is finding out the WHY of it. Shadow integration is one of the most uncomfortable things one can do, but if you push through it it is incredibly rewarding. Spiritually, emotionally, mentally.

Lists help alot. In your case you might want to start with "why do I feel so bad in my body" ->"because this health problem" -> "because self-esteem" -> "why do I have low self-esteem" -> "because my mother yaddayadda, my crush yaddayadda, that bitch stephanie in 4th grade yaddayadda". Do that and push through it but don't break or hurt yourself.

Idk if that makes sense to you, but your shadow has a personality aswell. It has a special way of "talking" to you. It has a feeling signature that you instinctively know. If you can consciously find that signature you can call upon your shadow. Talk to it like it's a different being. Ask it what it wants, what it needs etc. Compassion and presence is the name of the game.

Hope that helps.

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 No.130990

>>130963

According to Franz Bardon it's possible to use astral projection to retain your mind and soul after death if you're skilled enough at it. No idea how feasible this is for normal people.

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 No.130992

how long, ideally, can one meditate in how many ideal sessions to still make improvements in a day.

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 No.130993

>>130990

Is astral projection a must for spiritual development? I know howto do it in theory but I don't like the idea of having sleep paralysis, especially when I am not astral projecting. I don't want to wake up paralyzed and see a demon at the end of my bed

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 No.130995

>>130993

it's not that simple, honestly there's a lot of practice involved in learning how to do it, even when you get to that sleep paralysis state it's still really hard to seperate from your physical body and not get sucked back in

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 No.130996

>>130995

Well when you get to the point were you can do it, don't you get sleep paralysis more often when waking even if you were not projecting? That's the concern I have. I only ever got sleep paralysis once, and it was only in my arm and I sat up and it wouldn't move and was like it was stuck in place. And I could sense a presents in the pitch black dark bedroom in one of the corners but I didn't look just incase, so I just went back to sleep.

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 No.130997

>>130996

Im still learning how to do it but it does not seem like unintentional sleep paralysis episodes occur more than they used to before I started learning how to do it

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 No.130998

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>130992

Depends on the techniques involved. Repetition and consistency is key. Also, any progress you make to make you more acquainted with your own mind is making improvements.

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 No.130999

>>130996

I’ve gotten sleep paralysis all my life and never has anything made an appearance. Once you learn to relax into that state, projecting from paralysis is the easiest method.

Literally nothing can hurt you, and you don’t need your body to hurt it, should you want to, just knowing how to direct energy mentally.

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 No.131015

File: 8d0c70e2d479d40⋯.jpg (70.44 KB,1200x675,16:9,secret-agent.jpg)

You guys, I think I've finally found a way out of this mental prison. I want a record here, to help other people, and your thoughts.

There are two states of interest. I'm plagued by constant daydreams. When I attempt to use my mind I experience an opposing force that is terrible to resist. When I give in to the force and look away, I'm immediately absorbed in daydreams.

Resisting the force has only ever ended in failure. One day of extreme effort leaves me unable to resist the force, at all, for a month or more, which means no fancy pants thinking for that long. Consistent attempts have never improved this, and my performance degrades over time to a complete failure state.

I have attempted erasure techniques, thinking it was some reactive memory. This only maximized my ability to resist as I cleared other energy sinks. Dianetics and the like do not touch this thing.

I tried a tulpa, but they didn't touch the problem. Although, I'm convinced they are related and my approach was wrong.

Since there was no memory or thoughtform or entity. I started thinking brain damage or delayed development from the physical consequences of getting awful memories. I attempted rehabilitation. I tried maximizing the thinking that I'm allowed to do by playing video games and analyzing them. This has allowed me to read books now, but it's a half-brain analysis. Distinctly non-visual, and glancy. I'm not permitted to use my full attention or mental faculties. A massive improvement and piece of the puzzle.

There's another pattern to the daydreams. It's always me explaining to a person in a visualization. Sometimes the visualization is subconscious. I can sit there engaged in this back and forth for hours without realizing. It's almost always the most useless shit that doesn't have any impact anywhere in my life. It's a perpetual infantile hell of tantrums and bullshit. A couple times a year it swerves into something relevant that leaves me wishing I could think all the time and trudging down this hopeless path.

Given the irresistible nature of the force, the results of the brain damage angle, and the pattern to the daydreams, I believe that there is a limitation to the cooperation between comparable parts of my brain. I believe the daydreams comprise the communication of this other half, and initial attempts at communication have produced a more nuanced and focused perspective.

I believe the answer is to draw this other half into a structured visualization and identity so it's not a perpetual dream. It's difficult to do at first because touching them in thought provokes daydreaming and has the potential to trigger their defensive state (the irresistible force) that was installed when the split was made.

I know, it's bullshit, but it's where I'm at. I already committed to the tulpa thing in my desperation so it's not so bad embracing the entire fancy visualization as this other half of my brain. Sometimes when I draw the other half into a visualization and we're synchronized in thought, it feels like it's me, but then I feel the force again and it's clear where my limits are. The important distinction to make is that it's effortless on my part. I only communicate to them and if my communicated scenario is successful, I guide the visualization in whatever mental communication is. I don't know the rules of communication, only that it's possible to induce structure in the dream by my speaking and visualizing and feeling. What exactly is getting across, I don't know, but it's sufficient. They certainly seem to know english given the hours of debate. Maybe they're reaching into my thoughts how I do theirs.

In pursuit of precise communication, structure, and ultimately memory and godlike thoughts, I attempted to formally teach them to read and write. It was a failure. Something about text is impossible for them to face. I can sit here, reading and writing, remembering, but I so much as suggest these symbols to them and the fun stops. I have a feeling that's changing the more I interact with them.

I will try again after I develop a coherent identity in them. The big thing here is the entire visualization is the communication, not only the characters in it. Training a consistent character, like a tulpa, only creates a consistent character, and does nothing to alter the overall incoherency. I also cannot tell where a tulpa is existing in my mind because the practice of visualizing them makes it effortless to visualize them, but the full on effortless fancy visualization is unmistakable. This other half just needs it ground into them that they are here, this is a real and coherent place, and stop wasting my time with their bullshit, and start analyzing real shit and showing me that sweet tulpa ass.

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 No.131018

>>131015

First learn to meditate to the point of being able to keep your mind literally and completely blank for a few seconds at a time, and mostly blank for 20 minutes. Then revisit your theory.

Otherwise you're going to end up in the loony bin.

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 No.131019

>>131018

This lol

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 No.131027

>>130979

Sorcery by J. Finley Hurley.

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 No.131042

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>>131027

Thanks!

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 No.131048

File: af609a2ae09507f⋯.jpg (36.3 KB,680x324,170:81,dc4.jpg)

>>131042

YUCK! 3DPD DISGUSTING!

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 No.131053

>>131027

Thank you

>>131042

Why are you impersonating me?

>>131048

mentally ill

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 No.131057

How do I tell the difference between extrinsic etheric beings and thoughtforms created inadvertently by me?

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 No.131060

>>131057

Is there a difference?

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 No.131064

I want to seduce a girl that I had some contact with in the past. We have a mutual friend and she remembers me. She appears to have a lot of positive energy and this makes me attracted to her. I know the basics of spirituality but I never did something like this. What do? How do I create an attractive force between us?

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 No.131065

>>131064

Quit enslaving yourself to succubi you stupid whore. They are literally parasites who only exist to perpetuate the lowest of physical existence. No soul, no spirit, basically animals. Astral parasites.

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 No.131066

>>131065

I will be here waiting for an answer of a higher level

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 No.131069

>>131064

You are thankfully asking a pretty easy question with an answer you can do cheaply and quickly. Here is how to cast a basic sigil:

>>130694

Do it, write down details without copying the sigil, then forget about it. You should run into her, in real life or online or some such thing, soon enough.

A note: Don't be too thirsty. Think of the sigil as if it puts the ball in her court.

For now, just make one to get her to notice you and talk to you, ideally positively. Baby steps. Once you're a little more used to this (this is spellcasting 101, the basics of applied magic), you will have a skill set honed a little more by it and can ask for bigger and better events, and cast in more impressive and effective ways. Have fun with your new spellcasting toy for now.

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 No.131074

>>131069

Thank you for your answer. Sounds simple enough for a manifestation method - I will consider it.

>what you look for isn't what you need necessarily.

>also, run

What did they mean by this? Especially with the "run" thing.

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 No.131075

>>131069

Also,this

>Neither remember nor try to forget it because either will fuck you up

What is the backfire mechanism here? It's only a statement of intent.

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 No.131076

>>131069

Not him but doesn't saying 'something will happen' create an unfortunate temporal barrier?

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 No.131077

>>131076

As far as my practice has been concerned, that's a problem only if you're so nonspecific as to say "something will happen" as part of your statement of intent.

>>131074

I don't know, I don't know that poster and the truth is that if you're going to get into this whole affair, you should get very used to weirdos telling you cryptic-sounding shit that they mistakenly think means something to more than just them. It comes with the territory. You will do yourself a favor many times over if you treat this as a golden rule of thumb: Paranoia/fear is its own punishment. Telling yourself that is, for now, enough of a warding ritual as anything else you might be interested in, though if you get more involved in this, develop a vanishing ritual so you can safely distance yourself from the sea of dissonant nonsense you're going to have to wade through to get info. I'm afraid there's no way around it for now, but it gets easier to filter through by experience, which should really be your best indicator of the directions of success/failure. That's why we record all the stuff we do.

>>131075

It's lust of result. Your sigil should mean the intended event, rather than meaning "I want the intended event." Wanting just makes more of itself, it means that you want it. It in no way leads you toward it away from the desired thing, it just keeps you thirsty for it. Of course you do still want it, but you need to separate out your sigil from your desire for it to work. For this reason, avoid attachment or its equally failure-prone counterpart, rejection. Just cast the sigil and be done with it. You should be casting in a state of, for lack of a better term, temporary apathy. This is not actually an easy feat at first, but fake it 'till you make it. Actors know very well that once you're really in character, you start to feel as your character, and the same goes for your underlying self. You'll get better at this with time, but some early successes will help you immensely and will work to answer many of your current questions.

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 No.131081

>>131077

Excellent. Thank you for the clarification. Wise words right there.

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 No.131082

>>131081

Glad I could help, even though my shitass phone corrected banishing to "vanishing" and "toward or away" to "toward it away," which is nonsense. Apologies. In any case, have fun and enjoy her attentions as you will.

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 No.131089

>>131075

Magic is a funny thing.

>>Neither remember nor try to forget it because either will fuck you up

>What is the backfire mechanism here? It's only a statement of intent.

One thing I have learned is that, sometimes, you cant force this stuff. Let it 'flow'. That's it. In more specific terms; in the specific field of "having a desire of some sort" these cant be forced. You can try, but it wont be as effective. In contrast, something like projecting an energy field around yourself is more forceful.

>>131077

>gets easier to filter through by experience

At least to me, the more I do this stuff, the clearer everything gets. It feels like a lens that gradually gets more focused or a window that gets cleaner at every pass of a rag.

>temporary apathy

There is some merit to this, but I want to point out that 'wanting' is also important. If you never have a desire for something, how can you have drive? I believe the pitfall is letting desire consume oneself instead of looking ahead. Like not being able to see the forest for the trees so to speak.

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 No.131099

>>131089

Hence the 'temporary.' As you know, at the moment of casting, "apathy," which is not genuine apathy in any way but a kind of even temperance with regard to outcome, seals the deal in terms of the act's meaning; it avoids the casting meaning only the hope of its success, and sets the caster's mind on what is in front of him. Recall that we're advising someone who has absolutely zero casting experience, so I'm trying to shorthand things accessibly.

Of course, one can want a thing and also have it, and enjoy it, but for those who are first casting, the big question is, "will it work?" Seeing that it does, and overcoming that big first hurdle, is a major early milestone for any caster. In hindsight, "apathy" is maybe not the best shorthand for exhaustion of the will, but in a pinch, I hope it gets the point across.

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 No.131101

>>131099

Temper, not temperance, fuck this phone up the ass

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 No.131113

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>>130987

I'll stick to modifying my current body, first.

You've peaked my interest , did anyone here actually tried one of these?

>>130989

Thank you so much for clearing that up!

I'll follow your advice.

I think I found a way to have a little more control over this but I am still experiencing, nothing too fancy but it's worth a try.

Shadow integration sounds terrifying but also exciting, I'll do it, when ready.

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 No.131115

File: 157f58ee6c3eeeb⋯.webm (14.79 MB,406x720,203:360,video from pol.webm)

8chan = FBI

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 No.131116

>>131115

Yes, this is well known

>>>27745

I wonder, if an initiate begins exploring more powerful forms of magic is there a chance of the (((powers that be))) disappearing them? They have to have some sort of surveillance framework in place regarding these things.

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 No.131117

>>131116

Messed up the link

>>>/sudo/27745

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 No.131120

>>131116

American Cosmic

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 No.131123

Best way to see energy?

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 No.131136

File: 2263efc580b805a⋯.jpg (63.1 KB,600x400,3:2,thermal-camera.jpg)

File: 1a2ea651e5a909b⋯.jpg (37.83 KB,620x400,31:20,4949758.jpg)

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>>131123

Infrared cameras, geiger counters, light meters

and of course there's electrical energy which can come from electric potential energy or kinetic energy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_energy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electrical_and_electronic_measuring_equipment

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 No.131139

Mr Fringe, "Locknar" (pinkie pie flag) has a message 4 U

>>>/4chon/304389

>>>/4chon/269239

>>>/4chon/271184

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 No.131160

Is using a mantra acceptable in quiet mind meditation or does the act of repeating the mantra in your head itself count as a thought?

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 No.131164

>>131160

Depends on the outcome. Sure it counts as a thought technically but if it works to quiet the mind then go for it. Obviously a mantra is in some sense just a tool to get you into the desired state and acclimate you to it so you shouldn't develop an addiction of sorts but yeah. In my low-level opinion it's totally acceptable and probably even necessary atleast at first. The mind needs something to focus on to cut out the bullshit effectively, whether that be an image or a word or a sound is secondary so long as it works.

However, at some point you should let go of the mantra in your meditation to get used to the "holding your breath" feeling.

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 No.131169

>>131160

Meditation is a tool, can be used for many things (and also can be abused).

Using a mantra or an affirmation to align oneself is a great thing to do, and can certainly become even more efficient with meditation!

So yes, it is acceptable (for alignment or such) but it generally depends on what you're trying to do.

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 No.131170

>>131123

Feel it

>>131136

That's more like exposing it.

One does not simply see the unseen

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 No.131177

>>131160

In this case it acts as a focus. It’s probably better to use the breath. Focus on the breath. Things with meaning (magical or mundane, known or not) will get into your subconscious and manifest some way or other.

Focus on the breath or the tip of your tongue (squinting). Or the song of birds outside.

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 No.131246

What's so special about lucid dreaming or astral projection? Do these abilities open the way for more powerful magick or something? What are the capabalities of these skills?

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 No.131247

>>131246

>lucid dreaming

This is a good way of demonstrating to yourself the potential of visualization your mind has if nothing else. A well-trained initiate will not need to go to sleep to manifest coherent thoughforms as in a dream, but for the layman who's not willing to train their mind it's probably the only way they're going to experience something like it.

>astral projection

Once you realize that the physical body is merely a single manifestation of your being, you're going to want to liberate yourself from being tied to it so inexorably. Otherwise you may as well just stick to being a mundane philosopher.

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 No.131253

>>131246

Lucid dreaming is not relevant. Pursue it if you like.

In terms of magical uses, imagine astral projection as an extreme form of visualization and remote viewing, in which you focus your attention away from the physical to the point of almost separating. However, there’s is nothing you can’t do in magic without projection, so I wouldn’t obsess about it. Moreover, you risk getting lost in fantasies and making up your own illusory truths. Maybe read Magical Use of Thoughtforms.

There is one instance in which learning and practicing astral projection is useful, and that is preparing for death. Dead is the ultimate situation in which you will have focused your attention away from your body, so look at it as a form of practice for the real deal. Maybe read With Mystics and Magicians in Tibet.

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 No.131265

>>131015

It partly worked. I focused on holding an endless white expanse in my mind and self-awareness of holding this expanse. They're now more disciplined than I. Now I am undisturbed mentally by the curse. I am no longer forced to look away.

The problem is my body. I did not expect this. My mind is calm but my body is in a weird anxious state. I feel it in my heart and limbs. They burn as I sit here. I don't know what to do. It's not like my mind where I can just ask, or can I? I don't know. I'm so fucking close to the end of this lifelong curse, it's maddening.

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 No.131266

>>131265

The mind and the body are the same thing looked at from different viewpoints. The same mechanisms apply. Let them burn. Dare them to burn away, and then just meditate for as long as it takes for your body to fall in line with your mind.

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 No.131272

File: 81e29add4ec6f36⋯.jpg (1.28 MB,1488x1400,186:175,James Lewis-FLX-Jul12-Kevi….jpg)

Have any of you ever heard of resistance training with a tulpa? Are there limitations or anything? I was wondering if it's possible to train a tulpa to flex opposing muscle groups as I move. It sounds badass to me. Every movement would mean sweet gains. People would ask me if I workout and I'd say "no, I don't even have a gym membership." Then laugh to myself as they go sling iron like a bunch of idiots, trying to get a physique only attainable by tulpamancy.

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 No.131275

>>131272

You wouldn't need a tulpa for that but creating a thoughtform to give yourself uncontrolled muscle spasms sounds like a good way to get multiple muscle injuries at best and seizures at worst. Just do calisthenics you lazy pickle.

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 No.131279

What is the most effective way to insert ideas and beliefs into the subconscious mind?

I want to change my personality a bit

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 No.131283

>>131279

Repetition until you fall asleep and repetition first thing when you wake up.

If you can handle maybe set an alarm to wake you up in middle of night do more repetitions and fall asleep again.

I've heard doing repetitions of 40 is good but it could just be a meme.

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 No.131290

File: 118048bfca108d6⋯.png (482.33 KB,799x360,799:360,ClipboardImage.png)

What's the best way to learn to do this meditation? I'm able to keep my mind quiet for extended periods of time but whatever I do I can't seem to cut myself off from my senses like this.

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 No.131295

>>131272

You're retarded

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 No.131300

File: ff6671ff0f27057⋯.jpg (123.76 KB,1920x1080,16:9,2a4a8b6c339aa80e27e09dfe23….jpg)

I'm new to this board. What do I need to know?

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 No.131304

File: 8d5bfcd918b5835⋯.png (159.02 KB,764x744,191:186,MONTALKISGOOD.png)

>>131300

Go to the library link at the top of the page above the rules (fourth from the left) and read the recommended reading list (pic related).

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 No.131306

File: 051a723b0839b27⋯.jpeg (7.92 KB,333x151,333:151,Download (7).jpeg)

What do you think of Joy of Satan?

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 No.131325

>>131306

JOS is a nonsense LARP thought up by people so totally stupid that their own "anticosmic gods" that are supposed to worship power and darkness and all that edgy shit are so stupid that they're easily one and all beaten comatose by their enemies, who really easily trick them. It's the mythological version of the edgy kid who wants to be a school shooter because he's a total loser and wants to one-up the popular kids, but he trips on his shoelaces on his way inside and blows his own head off. Other LHP groups laugh at JOS and for good reason.

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 No.131331

>>131306

their exercises are pretty good

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 No.131333

File: f5341520513207c⋯.jpg (172.53 KB,1905x1024,1905:1024,terminator-incest.jpg)

>>131272

I did a spell to get them gains and I ended up going to the gym with a couple of coworkers without even realizing.

>>131279

Repetition like >>131283 said and leave subliminal messages for yourself laying around the house.

>>131290

Practice more.

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 No.131349

>>131331

>>131306

i say it all the time, its a very good website if you ignore all the satanic dogma. people criticize it for "stealing all the information from franz bardon" but who gives a fuck, they actually did a service organizing everything into an easy to read webpage

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 No.131360

Both Saturn and Pluto are comfy retrograde in Capricorn and will be for a while. Have you been a good boy /fringe/? Are you taking good and diligent care of your home and your livelihood?

Are you doing any magic to palliate the effects of this configuration?

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 No.131362

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>131360

Yes and i hope you all are taking full advantage of the energies present right now. the conjunction is probably the best time for personal change and the restructuring of your life for the very longterm future and thats exactly what i intend to capitalize on.

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 No.131365

>>131362

Until a couple of days ago I was taking a beating and even got some parasites (from within or from without?) messing with me like never before and I hope never again, but I have started to restructure, clean and organize. Starting to feel good.

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 No.131366

>>131362

This guy seems very blindsided by his political biases. I don’t find that video very insightful. Might I interest you in Austin Coppock? He’s one hell of an astrologer.

https://austincoppock.com/saturn-in-capricorn/

Also Mars retrograde is coming.

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 No.131368

>>131366

yeah i just ignore his politics but he does have good knowledge on astrology which is the reason i watch him, ill check your guy out tho

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 No.131370

How do you astral project on command? Just visualise leaving the body till you actually do it?

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 No.131374

>>131370

pretty much

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 No.131379

>>131370

Imagine being outside your body until your sensory input from it stops and you shift your consciousness to that new point, “leaving” your body behind. It’s not really that you are exiting anything, but a change of viewpoint.

Do it with all your senses at the same time as vividly as possible. It may take time, be patient and diligent. If you do it in bed as you fall asleep, chances are you will get there faster, but you might end up dreaming instead (which is projecting into your own thoughts with half awareness).

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 No.131385

What's the reasoning for there being a cycle of reincarnation in place besides some ancient indians believing in it

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 No.131409

>>131385

Are you implying it’s a pajeet invention? Read more dummy.

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 No.131413

>>131409

>pajeet

Oh no it's retarded

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 No.131414

>>131413

t. pajeet

LOL

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 No.131415

>>131409

Well it's what pajeets are known for, idk who came up with it but most older cultures than their's had very different concepts of afterlife

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 No.131416

>>131415

>most older cultures

Can you cite five examples that do not fit into a view that includes reincarnation/transmigration/soul recycling in some form?

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 No.131417

>>131416

babylonian, egyptian, sumerian, pretty much all pagan religions

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 No.131419

Friendly reminder that the concept of samsara is complete and utter nonsense that cannot be supported by any arguments or evidence.

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 No.131420

>>131417

https://reincarnationafterdeath.com/what-religions-believe/

>>131419

http://www.victorzammit.com/evidence/childrenwhorememberpastlives.htm

While I agree that the issue is complex and the answer is probably very nuanced, I’m not going to argue with morons who don’t even bother to read before they form an opinion. You wouldn’t be taken seriously even in /r/occult. Go back to Discord.

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 No.131421

>>131420

I've read about it far far more than you ever have

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 No.131422

>>131421

I've read about it far far far far more than you ever have

Try again booklet

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 No.131425

>>131417

>babylonian, egyptian, sumerian, pretty much all pagan religions

You only cited three. And we have so little information on Babylonian and Sumerian religion that they barely count as two. But please go on. Two more. No reincarnation or transmigration of any kind.

Or is it perhaps that you were talking out of your ass like an uneducated moron?

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 No.131426

>>131420

>I’m not going to argue with morons who don’t even bother to read before they form an opinion.

>doesn't even read his own links

top kek

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 No.131435

File: bcf2b840fc60aa4⋯.png (713.03 KB,1918x1078,137:77,hackerOS.png)

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 No.131438

How real is "opening third eye", is it metaphorical, is it referring purely to imagination, or is it more than that?

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 No.131441

File: 12a31b0611042c1⋯.jpeg (15.31 KB,300x300,1:1,shh.jpeg)

>>131385

You can start by reading the first link here >>131420

>Australian aborigines: reincarnation [1]

>Shamanism: reincarnation

>Pagan druidism (celts, gauls, Irish): reincarnation

>Norse mythology and vikings: reincarnation

>The Sumerians: eternal hell (wtf)

>Zoroastrianism: resurrection

>Voodoo: very diverse, reincarnation generally recognized

>Judaism: reincarnation (only in kabbalah mysticism)

>Christianity: reincarnation, but it was removed in 543 because politics. Apocriphal texts still support reincarnation

>Gnosticism: reincarnation

>Islam: resurrection (at the end of time)

>Brahmanism: reincarnation

>Jainism reincarnation

>Vedism: reincarnation

>Hinduism: reincarnation

>Sikhism: reincarnation

>Buddhism: depends on doctrine. Technically reincarnation, but Buddha denied there was something like a surviving identity that could be considered to reincarnate

>Tibetan Buddhism: reincarnation

>Confucianism: eternal life in heaven, reincarnation was then introduced by buddhists

>Taoism: no life after death at all, thus seeked physical immortality

>Shinto: eternal afterlife in Earth-like hell. Later influenced by buddhism into reincarnation

>The Aztecs: eternal life after death or eternal rest (?)

>The Mayans: reincarnation

>The Incas: eternal life after death

>The Greek: reincarnation (metempsychosis)

>The Egyptian: resurrection

>>131415

>>131417

You are wrong. As you can see, most old cultures had similar concepts of the afterlife and they included reincarnation in some form (see "shamanism" and "druidism" above). The apparent contradiction of the two main ideas about the afterlife can be reconciled with modern day NDE research.[2] We are piecing together a more or less scientific picture of the mechanics of the afterlife thanks to life-saving medical techniques and the fact that there's more people than ever living and dying on the planet, whereas in the old times only skilled occultists were able to astral travel or communicate with the other side in order to get this information. Now that doesn't mean we're anywhere close to understanding the nature of reality better than the old peoples did, that's a different story. I recommend you take a look at Jeffrey J. Kripal's books as well.

[1] https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Transmigration+of+the+soul

[2] Search Amazon for Lost Secret of Death by Peter Novak

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 No.131442

>>131441

what are the arguments for there being a cycle of reincarnation

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 No.131443

>>131438

The third eye is tied to the sixth chakra which purpotedly has to do with spiritual and supernatural things. Exoterically the third eye, sixth sense, and so on, is understood metaphorically as in "things that can't really be seen and yet are felt". Like how people can feel the grief of another person even if that other person isn't showing it. Esoterically, it's definitely real as real as you want it to be. People that specifically work on opening it (through different meditations etc) consistently report at first a feeling of like a golfball pushing itself out of your forehead, and afterwards a vacuum-sucking kind of feeling. It is commonly understood that the second feeling is the process of your third eye "anchoring" itself to your sixth chakra, or your pineal gland. I have undergone both and in my personal experience it is extremely real. Of course you have to learn how to use it, that is learn what exactly you want to see (auras, spirits, energy etc), aswell as learning to direct the energy. The third eye is a misnomer. It is called "ajna" which translates to "command". You can see with it, but you can also project. A two-way street. The same faculty is used afaik for things like the "evil eye".

>is it more than that

It almost always is. The layers of meaning are only as fininte as the willingness and capacity of the operator to understand them.

Generally, simply working on visualisation is enough to open it atleast a little bit.

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 No.131445

>>131443

I’d like to add that developing the crown chakra in tandem with third eye is often beneficial, because it boosts that sense of intuitive knowing that complements the astral senses nicely. I’m speculating now, but I suspect it helps with manifestation or “projective visualization”, too.

>>131442

Peter Novak has an interesting and compelling theory. Read his book for that. If you’d rather explore the data yourself, go to Dr. Kripal first.

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 No.131446

>>131445

what data of dr. kripal? He has a few books but they don't seem to concern the reincarnation process

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 No.131451

>>131445

>crown chakra

Second that. The thousand petals of sahasrara vibe well with the two petals of ajna.

>it helps with manifestation too

It does. I read somewhere that no energy is ever created nor destroyed, but merely rearranged. That said, there is a hindu myth in which Shiva, after meditating for millions of years, opens his third eye and engulfs all existence in destruction to make way for the next cycle.

To my mind the third eye is more or less just the outwards gate for the inner eye.

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 No.131459

What does /fringe/ think of Samual Sagan and/or Clairvision? I read Awakening the 3rd Eye and am rereading it as I keep finding lots of little tips that I missed/didnt quite "get" the first time around. Ive been working with this book on and off for around a year. The results Ive seen, while nothing astounding, are very clearly happening (usually in large jumps, then it settles again for a period of time) and I only wish I had more time/energy to devote to it.

Does anyone have an opinion on his work as far as the bigger picture of his theories and teachings goes?

I bought his book on entities now and started it. While I am not terribly well read, the ideas seem refreshing (which leads me to have suspicions) and Im in a bit of a Catch22. Are the ideas older and he just rewords in into language that makes sense for this era? Or are these "new ideas"?

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 No.131463

>>131459

I haven’t read Awakening the Third eye, but after skimming the table of contents I decided to do so, thanks.

He does seem to do a comparative big picture approach, which makes me think he’s talking from experience. We’ll see.

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 No.131464

There was a post around 2016 on /pol/ , election and memes.

The post basically said that some scientist showed how to use science and the universe energy to make ideas real. The posts contained some youtube videos and images showing some satellites and stars.

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 No.131467

>>131464

THANKS FOR THE INFO NOW TAKE YOU’RE MEDS

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 No.131469

>>131464

I don't know the specific post you're talking about but it was most likely about egregores. Pepe was turning up synchronistically in all kind of places, including stars and brief flashes of light in news stories about Hillary Clinton, because people were unknowingly treating it like an egregore and basing collective will on GETs and dubs. If you want to understand how it works I would suggest reading the recommended reading list >>131304 in this pic. Magical Use of Thoughtforms by Dolores Ashcroft Nowicki and J.H. Brennan covers egregores, but you also might need some of the other foundational information to understand some of the concepts and terminology (I'm just assuming you haven't read the recommended reading list given the way you worded your post, so if you have, go back to that book).

>>131467

Take you are grammar lessons.

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 No.131477

File: 7e25941682bc033⋯.jpg (71.5 KB,776x582,4:3,a plague on both houses.jpg)

I can't focus.

I am attempting the Exercise in The Arcane Formula, where I focus on each part of my body, from my feet to my brain, and then once more over, imagining myself without said parts, and that my mind would still exist and be the same without said parts.

Every time I try to focus, My mind wanders completely, and I hardly realize it.

What can I do about this?!

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 No.131494

>>131272

You understand muscles better than anyone else here already.

Teach your shadow to spar with you, or just do some epic dance moves or something.

What you are saying is more than possible and very easy. Many people do it without realizing. Consciously unaware but completely woke egos are the reason you have random skinny asshoels with insane metabolisms.

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 No.131495

>>131279

Meditation. Observe your thoughts. Overwhite the ones that do not align with what you want.

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 No.131496

I've been sleeping for a quite some time on the left side while hugging pillow and imagining that it's a qt succubus embracing me and sucking my energy so I could fall asleep faster. Is this thing dangerous to do?

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 No.131500

>>131496

yes anon hugging pillows is dangerous

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 No.131501

What's a good book on Mediumship?

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 No.131502

>>131501

Please ignore this post. Did not know this existed: https://mega.nz/#F!cpMETT6A!J-eUy-JYU5qduho7Qkhytw

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 No.131503

File: 60c4ab0afb27985⋯.jpg (468.56 KB,1687x1625,1687:1625,D60jFrkWsAEPFWe.jpg)

Hey [redacted] since you're a Christcuck now, does that mean you're against abortion now?

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 No.131504

>>131463

Oh Cool. I just found it strange that no where in any book list or any recommended reading have I seen any of his books, and there are quite a few. Im sure there are dozens of lists I havent encountered, but for as helpful as I found it, I figured it would be talked about more.

I just started New Energy Work, by Robert Bruce, which seems to be very similar in tone and content (so far anyway), albeit drastically different techniques, and feels like a potentially good companion piece to the Sagan one, for reference.

Its very much refreshing how both authors stress the "dont trust my word for it, go see for yourself" angle, as well

And please do share your thoughts about it when youve gotten a good feel for its contents, if you dont mind.

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 No.131507

Lately I've been doing the Hemi-Sync Gateway Experience, some of the intro sessions mention that the later sessions tend to change their wording. I thought it'd be one or two phrases you can chalk up to memory, but lately it's been like I'm listening to an entirely different recording. Why is this happening? Am I supposed to follow the new instructions or the ones I remember? Sometimes I do one or the other, whichever feels more correct.

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 No.131514

>>131507

Where are you up to? Last year I got up to partway through the third CD before time constraints got in the way, and I never noticed anything like that. Was it past there?

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 No.131524

>>131504

I was skeptical about New Energy Work because there’s something I don’t like about Robert Bruce and I can’t quite put my finger on it. But the techniques outlined there introduced me into energy work and had very notable effects on my development.

I’ll comment on that other book when I read it.

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 No.131527

>>131503

Those quotes are woke and those people are clearly wizards

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 No.131534

>>131442

I do have some, but they are personal experience and thus not “scientific”. I have always known certain things. For example, I know how to astral project and how to move around while projected, instinctively. I have also had a certain clairvoyant skill since I was a child, and although I was an atheist from an atheistic family, I have always “known” I was Christ in a way I struggled to put into words. There are also a lot of things regarding magic that I seemed to figure out using “logic” that was actually intuitive knowledge I was remembering. Years later I was told by a which I had been a magician and alchemist in a previous life, and a mystic hermit in another.

Now I don’t take those assertions at face value, and I know these could be indications of something different than me having a previous personal history before birth. I don’t believe anyone really understands reincarnation, but I do have reasons to believe it exists in some form. I lean towards the idea that it’s just parts of ourselves that survive. Maybe the more we grow the better we get at maintaining coherence.

There are people who straight up remember past lives and even struggle to keep the two identities separate (I believe this is a solve for transexuality, people reincarnating too soon or somehow carrying a mistaken identity from another life, and it would mean we are in highly concurred times).

That’s my take on it. You don’t need to agree nor disagree.

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 No.131547

>>131442

Everything in the macro scale is cyclical. Observation suggests that the micro tends to resemble the macro, and vice-versa. It makes sense to hypothesize that the life-death polarity is cyclical as well.

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 No.131571

Is there any actual difference between psionics and magic?

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 No.131576

>>131571

>there’s something I don’t like about Robert Bruce and I can’t quite put my finger on it

is it him being fat, bald and old? is it him being a business man? is it his poorly done and overpriced AP course? is it him sometimes boasting about things he doesn't comprehend? one could go on and on, but it's ultimately nitpicking if his core teachings ring true which is not something you can say of actual garbage occultists like atkinson.

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 No.131578

>>131576

what's the best AP course or method?

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 No.131582

>>131576

>atkinson's core teachings don't ring true

Imagine being this much of a contrarian. The unnecessary word-density of his books doesn't take away from the truth in them.

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 No.131595

>>131578

Visualize as vividly as possible with as many senses as possible. Grind for as ling as possible. Then do the same while laying down and keep yourself in your visualization while your body falls asleep and your mind doesn’t.

>>131582

Atkinson mostly didn’t know what he was talking about. He makes basic concepts unnecessarily complex and talks out of his ass about more advanced omes.

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 No.131624

File: 0f83716d192f7b2⋯.png (2.74 MB,1914x799,1914:799,terminator2.png)

>>131578

I just realized I internalized the scene in pic related when I was a kid and I've been using that technique in order to cross closed doors, walls and windows when I'm out of body.

My point is you need to give your imagination tools to navigate and interact with the astral realm (and for vision magic). You need to be able to picture and imagine things vividly and effortlessly or your astral travels will be short lived. That would be step 2.

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 No.131633

Is there a grimoire similar to the keys of solomon but without the hebrew spirits?

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 No.131637

>>131633

Imagine being this goy toy. Attracted to complete and utter bullshit and scared of "muh jews".

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 No.131640

>>131637

>don't be a goy toy and work jewish spirits, goy

No thanks, i'll find what i'm looling for one way or the other without Schlomo's advice. Thanks for absolutely nothing

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 No.131643

File: a03a62c5ac82b92⋯.png (87.83 KB,490x586,245:293,ClipboardImage.png)

>jewish things bad

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 No.131645

>>129515

No. Kabbalah is just Jewish fanfic

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 No.131646

>>129547

Nothing

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 No.131648

>>131633

>hebrew spirits

Recorded by hebrews =/= hebrew spirits. There are a fuckton of grimoires explicitely not based on solomonian and kabbalistic demonolatry. The O9A is "white supremacist" according to some folks and in any case, the only "hebrew" spirits you will find are those created by and serving the hebrew god. Really the only difference is that "hebrew" evocation magic contains muh names of god and threats of annihilation and eternal damnation. According to many black magickians those "hebrew" spirits btw do you mean angels or also those deemed evil by the solomon types such as Raphael and Michael are more than happy to work with all kinds of operators, provided you're not too much of a retarded dick. Considering that you seem to come from a bad-jews/good-aryans paradigm I would advise you to throw that weltanschauung into the trash for the simple reason that it limits you. Race and ethnicity become incredibly meaningless at higher levels of existence you probable untermensch.

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 No.131659

>>131648

>weltanschauung

The world you're looking for is "worldview"

>untermensch

The word you are looking for is "subhuman".

Learn English for fuck's sake.

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 No.131660

>>131659

>the word you're looking for

I know ze englisch very good sank you.

>subhuman

no u

>Learn English

Meh. Knowing more than one language is an automatic upgrade to your brain. As such you should thank me for activating possible other-tongue past-life memories.

In any case, most people that are anti-"muh jews" are either some form of white supremacist or islamist. As racialists are generally more open to the occult than islamists, I think it's a safe bet to say that >>131633 falls more into the huwhite aryan complexion. I was conversing on what I understood to be his level of discourse.

Also

>tells me to learn english

<spelling mistake

kek

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 No.131666

>>131660

I missed a period on the first sentence, but other than that I can’t find any mistakes in my post.

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 No.131669

>>131666 (checked)

>The world you're looking for

>world

Unless that was intentional which I'm sure it was

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 No.131679

File: 7ad8e0cc7a3e5fa⋯.jpg (63.61 KB,360x504,5:7,birthmas.jpg)

any cool rituals i can do on my birthday? Its today :)

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 No.131684

What are some good books about talismans? I just finished Ophiel's book, and he did cover some basics about them, but despite him claiming that he was going to thoroughly cover why they worked he didn't explain hardly any of the astrological and kabbalistic symbolism he used at all. I get the intuition that the exact symbols used are irrelevant so long as they accurately symbolize the desired result for the practitioner (basically a physical representation of a thoughtform so as to increase its solidity), but I still don't know how I should go about structuring the talisman or any processes for determining what types of symbols are necessary. Techniques on effectively charging them would be helpful as well.

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 No.131692

Any of you guys have any techniques or tips for learning/mastering a skill faster?

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 No.131698

>>131514

It's at the intro to focus 12 where instructions really start to vary. CD1 of wave II. I want to set some time aside later and transcribe the sessions, see if I'm misremembering earlier ones.

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 No.131699

>>131648

Not the tard you're responding to, but how exactly do those spirits get 'evoked'? Provided you do some instructed ritual, what actually happens? Does it stay purely imaginative roleplay? Doing this sort of thing pragmatically like one would approach energy work and oobes doesn't seem to the proper conduct. All the entities I've ever encountered were bizarre and ultimately irrelevant, so I'm thinking that unless given attention they'll never be more than your own creations so to speak.

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 No.131700

>>131699

Practice magic and stop saying random things just because. The answers to your questions are in you practicing enough magic.

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 No.131705

>>131699

I second >>131700

>what actually happens

As in metaphysically or physically? Metaphysically you're giving whichever spirit you're calling a place to manifest, physically, and at the least at the beginning, it can vary wildly between I'm not kidding dogs barking, your candle flames flickering wildly in a closed off room, incense smoke flailing and even creating shapes, up to roommates arguing, neighbours moving furniture or some shit. That type of "random" stuff will happen until you might see lights or shadowy shapes. The light patterns and shadowy movements stuff can really freak you out but it's a good sign to keep going. You might also hear ethereal noises such as bells, music, voices, you might have images projected into your mind (as in visions), you might smell weird or unearthly smells. It really mostly depends upon 1. your own expectations 2. the spirit you're working with.

>all the entities I've encountered

Humour is a wildly-shared trait, not just among humans. Naturally, what one may find funny, another may find scary. Maybe these entities were trying to scare or humour you.

>your own creations

Am I a creation of you? For all you know I could literally be an algorithm, a spook trying to mislead you, or a dog.

Of course, experience in energy work and astral projection is a good boost. Just trust yourself, and trust that the entities you are calling upon and the related info concerning their nature and rituals existed before you. As you are yourself an expression of All, so are they, meaning both you and they are creations of each other. You'll find very quickly just how wise an powerful and knowledgeable these beings are.

The final understanding: it's all real

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 No.131715

Is it possible to travel back in time with your soul and enter the physical body of your past?

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 No.131716

>>131715

If it is you aren't going to find out how to do it here.

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 No.131718

>>131469

It want's egregores I read about that before. I think it had something to do with "Fractal cosmology" or "fractalization". Maybe there was a webm or yt video with a scientist explaining things.

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 No.131726

>>131698

How do they vary? Everything is always

>energy conversion box

>resonant tuning

>resonant energy balloon

>affirmation

>move onto focus 10

There's never any variation. He might shorten the description as time goes on but it's still those 5 things every time. What do you mean?

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 No.131732

>>131715

Yes. Buy John Kreiter’s books.

>>131705

How the fuck would you be a dog?

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 No.131735

>>131732

Any book of his in particular?

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 No.131741

File: d02f990791a7bd4⋯.jpg (62.65 KB,300x335,60:67,Internet_dog.jpg)

>>131732

>How the fuck would you be a dog?

Literally one of the oldest memes on the internet.

Or, if you like etymology, dog->god. As am I, so are you bitch

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 No.131744

>>131735

The one's about energy work: the one about vampires, the magnum opus, overcoming the archon through alchemy and optionally the out of body one.

Don't expect some huge revelation. It's just that the techniques are those explained by Kreiter. You're basically looking at a life-long commitment to heavy daily meditation that will almost surely end in failure. How bad do you want to live in your past?

Still, the techniques have other much better (in my opinion) and easier uses.

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 No.131747

File: d255b2183787151⋯.png (83.96 KB,800x600,4:3,energy.png)

>>129547

What will happen to "you" as in the person reading this? You'll keep existing for a while, doing stuff, dreaming in co-op. Then you will slowly forget yourself, and then pieces of you will incarnate again as part of new bodies, get assimilated by entities, by other already incarnate humans…

What will happen to "you", as in the spirit observing the first "you" read this post? You will keep existing for a while, observing the first "you" do stuff, dreaming in co-op. Then you will slowly shed parts of that personality until you don't have any more and only remember the essential stuff in the form of what the other "you" would call "instinct", and you'll get a new meatsuit, grow it, get new parts, and repeat the whole process, growing slowly.

The funny thing is, we follow the same process during our lives, so why do we even die? It's a big reset, a big cleanup. But with that perspective the line between death and transformation during life is not that clear.

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 No.131752

>>131744

>Don't expect some huge revelation

why this writer in particular then?

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 No.131753

>>131752

Why don't you read the sentences directly following the one you quoted? Stop expecting everyone to hand hold you or you will never make it anywhere.

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 No.131759

File: a0290c576cea91e⋯.jpg (21.64 KB,195x195,1:1,laughing.jpg)

>>131732

>buying books

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 No.131760

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 No.131774

Any tips for merging my mind's eye with my physical sight for manifesting "hallucinations"? I'm getting pretty good at vizualization but no matter how clear I make the image in my head I can't seem to transfer it to the physical.

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 No.131780

>>131774

Stare at the space between objects. Play with crossing and uncrossing your eyes and let your mind use the visual patterns to solidify different patterns. Try to see the air only 30cm in front of your face. Stay relaxed. Play with this and you can eventually overlay imagination with reality.

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 No.131782

>>131780

How long did it take you?

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 No.131789

What is the difference between the planetary seal, intelligence and spirit mentioned by Agrippa?

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 No.131792

>>131759

he's a pretty obscure writer it seems, are you implying there's a soulseek-type app for books or something?

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 No.131801

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 No.131803

>>131789

The spirit is the negative aspect, and the intelligence the positive aspect of the planet (or the other way around). I think Agrippa himself explains it around the same pages where he gives the sigils.

>>131801

Those three are good. OBE one is good as well, and the one about servitors that's not the one there I recommend, too. But you will have to buy them.

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 No.131812

>>131803

ah yes, found it, but nothing on the 'seals'

What about them?

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 No.131814

>>131812

why are you saying you'd have to buy them? you mean those books are not shared yet or something else entirely? what servitor book? the for companions or wealth and prosperity?

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 No.131815

>>131803

Can you upload them here?

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 No.131816

>>131814

sorry, meant >>131803

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 No.131825

>>131816

Sorry but I don’t feel comfortable doing so. In any case the ones on libgen are more than enough. The psychic vampirism one and the magnum opus one are the most complete anyway.

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 No.131827

>>131825

They'll get shared eventually. I'm only missing the occult experience and overcoming the archon because the topics don't interest me much.

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 No.131832

>>131827

Overcoming the Archon is very similar to the magnum opus one.

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 No.131858

File: 5f96b1c1260ccbf⋯.jpg (178.69 KB,750x868,375:434,toilet-worship.jpg)

>>131648

>Race and ethnicity become incredibly meaningless at higher levels of existence

So can you tell me why can't the collective desire of a billion street shitters, with some allegedly advanced gurus among them, STILL can't manifest the toilet egregore into reality? We wuz equal and shiet.

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 No.131863

How can I manifest a mommygf? This is my heart's obsession, please help*

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 No.131873

Did the Jews really come up with the Qabalah? I hear it referenced to as jewish or hebrew all the time but I cannot find any concrete sources that it actually originated with the Jews. Some books even say it's originally Egyptian or Islamic.

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 No.131874

>>131873

there's two different kaballahs, the medieval one and the modern one that's based on the tree of life

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 No.131876

>>131873

No. Hebrew is gaelic. KBL is as ancient as language itself.

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 No.131877

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 No.131881

How much does the effectiveness of magick depend on belief and on energy work?

Is belief more important than energy work or is energy more important?

Are the subtle energies formed from belief in the first place? Things like chakras or sephiroths really only seem to solidify after you've put time in feeling them.

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 No.131888

File: c594bcdc4ce377d⋯.jpg (174.17 KB,1900x1425,4:3,Venus and Jupiter.jpg)

>in my bed talking to strangers on the internet

>weird blue light in my room

>what the hell are…

>looks like venus?

>it disappear, 3:33 on my phone

not sure if it does mean anything since i am seeing this number absolutely everywhere, but it isn't the first time I've saw this blue light either, am i being fooled?

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 No.131889

>>131881

Will must be unified for magic to work. If will is not unified it works against itself and the result is impotence. Typically it is sufficient to attain a trance state during the casting of the magic, but if you actively disbelieve in it afterwards before the effect comes about it will reduce the chance of succeeding, because what you are doing is putting forth a desire for the magic not to succeed.

Energy work is basically skill at manipulating parts of ones higher-density physiology. This requires unification of will as well, that is, the manifestation of sensations.

Energy is neither created nor destroyed, it is transformed, channeled from the universe. Will-working is the art of manipulating these energies in various ways to manifest results. Archetypes, sephiroths, can be found in the symbolism of dreams and thoughts even in one who is ignorant in occult matters.

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 No.131902

>>131888

Nice digits my man. Use dream logic to understand the language of the universe. Man logic is for plebs.

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 No.131910

>>131902

The Dreams i have are just about my insecurities and things i want so it's not really helpful .

Had some lucid dreams recently thanks to meditation, but again i see nothing i don't already know.

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 No.131923

are the most powerful magicians hidden? or is there just not that much power possible to attain through magick?

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 No.131934

>>131923

A brave question.

Is magic perhaps so powerful that only the ones performing it are aware of a change? Do powerful magicians ascend to higher realms while leaving a copy behind? Do they become enlighened at a certain level and stop seeking power?

Are there metaphysical agencies working on keeping magic a secret to the public? Do those who attain power above a certain threshold get silently taken down?

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 No.131935

Is it normal to start having friends lose interest in hanging out with you when you start this journey?

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 No.131936

Do you guys know any good book about mesopotamian religion?

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 No.131940

File: 0739106c67010b9⋯.jpg (85.63 KB,960x788,240:197,1559526755305.jpg)

>I remember 9/11

Where were you when smileberg showed lauren southern his magic wand and made her drop politics and become his breeding slut?

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 No.131943

>>131910

I meant you have to look at IRL synchronicities as if life were a dream. Actual dreams have nothing to do with this. I’m telling you to use dream logic in waking reality.

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 No.131951

>>131934

Yeah, had similar questions for a long time, impossible to answer unless you meet one I guess

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 No.131952

>>131923

I'd definitely wager that they're hidden. There's some very tangible magical results to be had on a relatively low ability level. To me it seems only natural then that these phenomena are the tip of the iceberg.

If some random new age goober can exhibit very rudimentary telekinetic abilities for example, I imagine that someone with a more solid training methodology, more talent and more discipline could significantly surpass what we generally think of as being possible.

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 No.131953

>>131952

I feel like it's the methodology that's the most flawed usually. Some secret societies must have some real proper training methods.

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 No.131957

What is the refractory period of meditation? I have time I'd like to pick it up again as soon as I could after finishing a session.

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 No.131991

What material does /fringe/ have on the practises of the Chinese Martial Arts like Tai Chi? I would like to learn their meditations and exercises but I imagine there's probably all sorts of different branches and whatnot. Please treat me as someone who knows very little about this topic.

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 No.131992

>>131957

There is no such thing.

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 No.131997

is yoga the main way to achieve siddhis?

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 No.132000

>>131997

>using poo nomenclature

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 No.132001

>>131858

Probably because they really don't care that much about plumbing and hygiene. If they did they would and should have achieved the "toilet egregore". In my opinion. Remember, these people have nuclear weapons and a fucking space program. who the fuck thought THAT to be a good idea, then again the pakis have nukes too so I'm not sure who I'm more scared about The fact that they still regularly bathe in the corpse-and-shit-filled Ganges is proof that they collectively care more about tradition and their kind of spirituality than anything else. They believe that if they're just meek and happy with their abject conditions that they'll be reincarnated into a better existence. My guess is that that's why they have literal designated shitting streets.

>we wuz equal and shiet

I mean… indo-europeans and all. But you're right I guess. Only white power is illegal because it's the only real power there is compared to the others.

Still though, I'm good friends with lots of "non-aryans" as in arabs and chinks and they're all nice and smart and driven and all that.

>incredibly meaningless

I meant to say that even literal autists can be cured of their cognitive disabilities with enough effort. I know because I've done it. I turned an autistic atheistic materialistic postmodernist npc "cultural" jew into a semi-greenpilled less-autistic individual.

>inb4: feeding the beast, strengthening the enemy

Fuck off will ya. Mankind should unite so we can go off to space-war, instead of inter-humanity war. We need everyone for that, yes even the jews. Consider the smarts we could add if they didn't ceaselessly work to undermine their host nations.

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 No.132002

>>132001

>Fuck off will ya. Mankind should unite so we can go off to space-war, instead of inter-humanity war. We need everyone for that, yes even the jews. Consider the smarts we could add if they didn't ceaselessly work to undermine their host nations.

Bullshit. We don't need everyone for it, we don't even need 99% of everyone alive for it. We can just kill off most of the world's population and it will only help us get to space faster.

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 No.132003

>>132002

>we

Implying you'll be part of the 1% that'll survive.

>get to space faster

<so guys, now that that genocide business is done, let's shrug off the horrible collective trauma and build space rockets

Will work flawlessly, I'm sure.

In any case, people like you are the reason for war. Dualism is cancer used to control you. Typical divide-and-conquer shit.

>we's the good ones, dem's the bad ones, go get em boys

<slanty-eyed you get fried, dirty brown-skin die for your sin, nigger gets the trigger

>jeder Schuss ein Russ', jeder Tritt ein Britt', Serbien muss Sterbien (in case you don't get the reference)

Good job playing (((their))) propaganda game for them. Valhalla awaits you enlightened one.

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 No.132004

>>131863

>How can I manifest a mommygf? This is my heart's obsession, please help*

Nobody has a few words to spare for this lowly initiate?

A teacher for one day, a benefactor for life. Please help me

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 No.132007

>>132003

>Implying you'll be part of the 1% that'll survive.

I will be. I'm pretty rich, I have psychic powers that make it impossible for anyone to have any kind of intention to come near me without me knowing hours in advance, I live off-grid, I'm extremely fit and have incredible endurance, I'm knowledgeable about all things military, foraging, survivalism, etc. and I've got a militia going and a lot of people look to me for guidance. I also live in one of the best places in the world for a collapse, with pure clean water that you don't even have to filter to drink, and national parks on all sides of my land ensuring I don't have neighbors. I've got solar and wind power, a wood stove, greenhouse, and enough militiamen to survive through just about anything.

<so guys, now that that genocide business is done, let's shrug off the horrible collective trauma and build space rockets

Odd how we advanced far more during the biggest wars in our history than we have in this stagnant, rotten, peace.

War is hugely beneficial and god loves wars or he'd never let any happen. War is when people find out who they truly are and the bullshit and masks comes off. We need more wars and the elite know this, hence why they have intentionally done everything in their power to destabilize peaceful nations and create war, by flooding them with hostile foreigners.

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 No.132009

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>>132004

Why would you waste your time with something as frivolous as that? Whatever floats your boat I guess…

Just imagine and let one manifest. Do your own research and reading into the occult. This stuff should not be taken lightly.

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 No.132011

When you spin your chakras, in which direction do you do? Clockwise?

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 No.132012

In transmuting sexual energy, is moving energy from your groin up your spine to your crown to recirculate it all you're meant to do? It's all I've ever seen anyone say you're meant to do. It seems like there should be a lot more to it than that. Not to mention, I'm doing this at least like 10 minutes per day but nofap is still pushing my sex drive through the roof and it's fucking irritating, but recirculating the energy isn't doing anything to quell it. Surely there's something I'm not getting here.

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 No.132014

Hey guys,I'm looking for books about electromagnetic fields and how they affect our bodies.Some guidance would be greatly appreciated.

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 No.132015

>>132007

Now this is some next level LARP.

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 No.132017

There was a post around 2016 on /pol/ , election and memes.

The post basically said that some scientist showed how to use science and the universe energy to make ideas real. The posts contained some youtube videos and images showing some satellites and stars.

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 No.132018

>>132012

Is it about quelling the energy? If circulating it to your crown chakra is all you're supposed to do, and it works well, then obviously you should have more energy in general. It might be that you're mistaking other energy for sex drive? Also it would make sense that your sex drive is increased if you're working on your sakral chakra.

How long have you been on nofap? Can you allow yourself a wank? A prostitute? Anything to get that load out? You could work on creating a sort of automatic instant connection from your sakral to your crown chakra and manifest that with, you guessed it, orgasm energy. Such that surplus energy beyond a certain threshold is moved into the crown immediately. (you might want to keep open the possibility of it being two-way, in case gf or something happens y'know)

>>132017

Sorry bro, I still don't have it. I'll post it if I find it.

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 No.132019

>>132012

It's not supposed to quel your sexual desire, it's supposed to quel the effects of a nofap flatline

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 No.132020

What's the deal with Joao de Deus? And what's the deal with tongue cutting for miracle healing?

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 No.132021

File: b245d43721bc86e⋯.pdf (39.19 KB,War is a Racket.pdf)

>>132007

>odd how we advanced far more

Sure, but there's a difference between stabbing, shooting, and dropping bombs on someone. Just as there's a difference between killing a child or an unarmed man, and one threatening your life. The advancements that are made technologically come from the need to kill more enemies and protect more allies. The advancements made spiritually come from the need to process the horrors of war.

>god loves wars

Which god is that? The All? Jehova? Ares? I agree though in principle. War IS beneficial because it cuts away the individual bullshit pretenses of "who am I". However, in wartime is when freedoms are restricted, banks are created, and countless men go off to die over some dispute that ultimately boils down to "because that jew has more money than me I threw both our countries into chaos to have a reason to just take it from him". pdf highly related.

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 No.132027

>>132012

Sexual energy resides in higher densities than the etheric body, so I assume this is largely a symbolic method. Etheric body stimulation is done mainly though visualization, specifically tactile in more popular techniques. For higher emotional manipulations, one must become acquainted with the sensations of desired emotional states and learn to reproduce them at will. Not using imagination as an aid but directly willing an emotion and transmuting it thereby from existing pathos.

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 No.132044

I recently did a meditation where I visualized my whole body being made out of snakes. My body was exactly the same with skin, hair, arteries, organs etc, only that every part of my body was a snake, wriggling and wiggling between all the other snakes. Weird fucking feeling. I read of void meditation and one where you imagine your body whole and then one after one taking away bits. I am also familiar with the concept of internal arson but I've never read or heard anything about doing sneky-snek meditation. Am I just a pleb who hasn't read enough or did I stumble across some interesting practice?

I also did the same meditation with spiders even though they freak me out. big ones, not even the kind you find in my country It was spoopy and I stopped after like 20 minutes because I wasn't too keen on finding out where that takes me. I'm not too eager to meet the spider-goddess either so I figured it's enough to conquer that fear in parts for now

Thoughts?

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 No.132047

Why is there a hexagon shaped storm on saturn?

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 No.132048

What's the occult significance of hypercubes or tesseracts? Do they hold some kind of power or is it more of a useful symbol/metaphor to use in rituals

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 No.132049

>>132048

Not sure about hypercubes. In scientific terms they're supposed to represent the 4 dimensions right? That is, 3 physical + 1 dimension of time. I imagine that they are both metaphor and symbol of power. Metaphor since it represents the 3d/4d linear model of timespace. Symbol of power because, if you can calculate the movement of the thing more or less accurately you could probably do alot more.

I believe the sumerians or phoenicians didn't carve out idols of their gods and instead used black cubes, as these could represent anything.

From personal experience I can tell you that meditating on the black cube opens you up in a lot of interesting ways. I think it's more or less just a communication device. I can imagine the hypercube to be a more advanced device that incidentally fits well with some models of the universe.

Just meditate on it for a while and you'll see. I will do the same and will report findings.

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 No.132068

How to retain your memories after death?

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 No.132074

>>132068

1. Create strong and robust astral thoughtform body

2. Completely transfer center of consciousness from physical body to astral body

3. Transfer energy from physical body's etheric matrix into astral body until physical death

4. Find baby and transfer energy & consciousness into its body until you overwhelm it and take over the physical body

or something like that

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 No.132075

That sounds extremely hard and complicated, any books that go more in-depth on this?

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 No.132077

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 No.132079

>>132075

Not specifically. You'd need a firm foundation in interacting with the higher planes. This can be found scattered throughout astral projection and 'energy body' type topics of literature. Modification of consciousness is just meditation, transfer to one's higher bodies should take place easier as control of the will develops.

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 No.132080

>>132075

Info on this is very scarce, but there's not much to it besides the grind.

Try Draja Mickaharic's two books on immortals and John Kreiter's book on OBE.

why is 8ch so slow and clunky all of a sudden?

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 No.132082

How do you stop being a coward? I know when you first learned about aliens, demons and shit you got scared, don't lie to me. With prayers?

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 No.132083

I know larping is looked down on, but considering that reality is manifested from thoughts, why not just larp that you're a super powerful wizard? Wouldn't you eventually become one?

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 No.132085

>>132083

There would already be a bunch of super powerful wizards if that actually worked.

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 No.132086

>>132083

Because all that belief relates to is your self-image.

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 No.132090

What's the point of energy vampirism? I've found that just taking energy from your surroundings is greatly vitalizing.

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 No.132091

>>132083

You can do that, but it’s not only what your ego does that matters. You have a lot more under the hood, and your subconscious image as well as others’ perception of you would conflict with that. You would have to adapt that image or become autistic and disconnected from reality.

The key is roleplaying honestly, like a child. If you have difficulty talking to girls, for example, and force yourself to roleplay as chad thundercock, you are going to have a problem. You need to know yourself and adapt or work on your limitations.

A good example of proper roleplaying would be witches like Uncle Birch on YouTube, The Witch of Wonderlust, EA Koetting’s crew or vampires like Michelle Belanger and company. They embrace the stereotypes of their practice to the extent the can do so with honesty and have fun (although Koetting and co are a bit forced sometimes).

But you can’t brute force it all the way. Know thyself.

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 No.132092

>>132044

It's trash. The point of using special objects and words is to induce an altered state of consciousness. From simple house decorations, incense, to rune inscribed circles, and the knife used to drain the blood of a child and drink thereof. Each of these objects deeply affect a person's mind. More so with more understanding.

The entire ritual is one focused motion. Each piece is understood and calculated to induce a particular state of mind. The culmination of these is the target state where the thing is summoned or magic is performed. At least, this is what I gather from "Ceremonial Magic and Power of Evocation - Joseph C. Lisiewski.pdf"

It's a new sort of skill being able to identify objects that do this to your mind. Especially to the degree required for whatever altered state you're after. Visualizing random trash will be fruitless, unless they guide you down a path where you attach particular meaning and state of mind on each piece of trash with the culmination being whatever it is you want.

I've not experimented much with it. Doing this entirely mentally seems difficult. Visualization doesn't have the same mental impact as a bunch of handcrafted objects with attached meaning and rituals. Imagining holding a dagger isn't nearly like huffing the butthash and holding a blood encrusted dagger in front of the rune inscribed summoning circle. I don't know what it can be replaced with, but I'd like to replace it myself, just not with some nigger bullshit dumpster lore.

Perhaps a series of visualizations and words with particular meaning. Like a long poem with visualizations. Or maybe just nothing. Maybe it's sufficient to know a bunch of lore then sit there, present. Then there's the fact that this is blind with no known target state. Even the niggers that report success are still fucking niggers by every measure when the entire objective is to stop being niggers.

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 No.132094

Why is everyone freaking out about the end of the world lately?

There's always threads like that but lately it seems like there's a lot more on fringe, x, pol

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 No.132098

>>132094

wiki:k-wave

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 No.132099

>>132092

>reads one book

<it's trash

Lol what are you on. Where did you gather that I was doing a ritual? I was literally only talking about visualisation meditation and I can tell you from experience that that particular meditation gets quite spoopy.

>affect a person's mind

Yeah no shit. Coins, knives, wands and cups invoke the 4 elements. These things are deeply incoded into your subconscious and as such access generally obscure parts of the mind. No fucking shit.

>It's a new sort of skill being able to identify objects that do this to your mind

It's called using your third eye. It's also literally called "feeling something out".

>whatever altered state you're after

The ability to feel beyond yourself. The ability to genuinely feel at will, at all. A holistic increase of psychic senses. I gather you don't do chakra work? Or kundalini stuff?

>I've not experimented much with it

I have.

>entirely mental seems difficult

That's still the whole point though. Drugs and objects to induce altered states are the training wheels you mongrel. The point is to get so good to do it at will without external help. The cloak doesn't make the wizard. What the fuck are you on.

>Visualization doesn't have the same mental impact

It absolutely does if you're even moderately good at it. The brain does not differentiate between you "actually" holding a dagger, and you being under the solid imagined illusion of holding a dagger. I can tell you've never lucid dreamed. I'm wondering if you dream at all.

>words with particular meaning

Now we're getting somewhere. Despite what anyone says, the voice of the magickian is his most powerful tool, be that inside or outside voice. Voces magicae allow you to do nearly all rituals without much material. Think of the bible verse "and God spoke, let there be light, and there was light". If you care for etymology: spelling isn't related to "spell" by accident. I know from experience and from talking to other people that mantras can hold immense power. In general, the way you speak to yourself and by extension others will determine your life and personality.

Bro you've got a long way ahead of you if you're this dense. Lurk more. And fucking meditate. Get your mind into order.

>morpheus

Oooohhhh. I get it. You're a fluorescent one. Makes more sense now

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 No.132100

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>>132094

Replace 'end of the world' with 'massive change' and it will make sense. Most kine are unable to distinguish between Armageddon and upheaval of the zeitgeist.

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 No.132104

File: 7fb3a61ecd9fadb⋯.jpg (19.93 KB,480x360,4:3,image.jpg)

Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.

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 No.132107

>>132099

What the fuck, how are you offended, you nigger? You asked me. Yes, one book BTFOs your bullshit and apparent non-question. I did not ask you for your retarded advice or non-argument. You do not understand the most basic mechanics of the exercise, which the book makes very clear.

Holy shit, how do you get offended from a flag, nigger?

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 No.132109

>>132092

>The point of using special objects and words is to induce an altered state of consciousness

This meme needs to stop. You are repeating it because every book out there says the same thing, but it’s wrong.

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 No.132110

>>132094

Because of the current astrological situation. This whole year and the beginning of the next are going to be like this. It’s a time extremely conducive to change, and those who can’t adapt to it (or bypass these energies with magic duh) are going to get fucked up.

I shouldn’t need to point this out on /fringe/, but apparently this is /xpol/ now.

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 No.132114

>>132109

No, I'm not.

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 No.132117

>>132107

>offended

I feel slightly offended by you having read a single book and claiming to know the gospel truth of magic. My "bullshit and apparent non-question" wasn't even related to ritual magic, which you would know if you could read nigger.

>I did not ask you for your retarded advice

Neither did I. I was asking for advice and opinions on certain meditation techniques. Not wands, or daggers or blood sacrifice. Learn to read nigger.

>You do not understand the most basic mechanics of the exercise

What exercise? Ritual magic? The exercise that I myself was talking about? Seriously get a grip dude.

>offended from a flag

Kek. Two things I guess, though I wouldn't say I'm offended. 1. the character that plays Morpheus is…. a nigger? 2. Morpheus is the god of dreams and he can personify any persona or being. Additionally Morpheus and his brothers usually only visit kings in their dreams, so I'll take your retarded useless nigger presence as a blessing.

Oh wise Morpheus, what dost thou speak of the process?

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 No.132118

just kiss already and get a room, you two.

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 No.132123

>>132114

You’re not what?

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 No.132124

>>132123

Heterosexual

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 No.132125

Is there any way to really exit this reality? Or are we just completely trapped by the choice of our pre-incarnation consciousness unless we kill ourselves?

There must be some sort of spell or mantra that lets you just pass from this body.

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 No.132126

File: 16cb3d08a3e4883⋯.jpg (61.05 KB,800x530,80:53,tnbXCPi.jpg)

>>132125

Yes, it's called suicide.

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 No.132127

Thoughts on JoS?

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 No.132132

>>132127

Is this a meme?

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 No.132134

>>132125

>our pre-incarnation consciousness

It's more like your "other" consciousness. It never left.

http://fringebay.com/fringe/3023#3213

>>132127

Their energy work is nice, and their gnosis on demons mostly as well.

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 No.132136

What are some good guides to invocation, as opposed to evocation? Also how to channel will directly for results without the aid of spirits?

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 No.132139

I am what people call an empath and sometimes it's hell. I want to be alone all the time and I never know when my day is going to be shit and when it's going to be good. It all depends literally on who I cross paths with during the day.

New age pages and videos all talk nonsense. I want to develop this curse into a gift. What do?

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 No.132140

>>132139

torture rats until you get used to the squirming

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 No.132141

File: 649f2c9cedf8672⋯.webm (735.02 KB,220x274,110:137,rat.webm)

>>132140

>torturing based rats

At least pick a normie animal like cats

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 No.132142

>>132141

That's the point, you gotta destroy what you empathize with so you can build up tolerance.

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 No.132146

>>132140

What is the point of that? I don’t think you understand what sucks about being an empath. I’m not talking about “empathy”, I’m talking about picking up on random ambient energies that feel your own. You don’t build tolerance, it simply doesn’t work like that. For instance, walking down the street you suddenly feel frustrated, or angry, or sad. It’s little stings that come out of nowhere. It’s also positive emotions. Some asshat is euphoric about some bullshit, and you start feeling it as well, even if you don’t give a shit. So you have two options seemingly: partake of his inanity or build up a wall of cynicism. Then you talk with someone about the weather, and you pick up on their anxiety about rent, and so on. By the time you get home you feel dirty and exhausted. It seems to build up on your clothes.

You can use that sensitivity to manipulate and hurt people tremendously, which is why I said I want to develop it, because I know it has its uses.

You need to be alert to discard those energies as they come, but it’s simply too much and too constant, like wading through a sea of human misery 24/7.

Torturing rats? What the fuck is that even supposed to accomplish? Why do I even bother. Seriously, /fringe/ has gone to shit. Where has everybody gone?

you pick up other posters’ energy, oh man, if you only knew what joy that is

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 No.132149

>>132117

You must understand on some level that you've only gouged out your own eyes and declared victory over a non-question and non-argument. You're fucking insane, nigger.

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 No.132153

>>132146

That happens when you don't pursue your God given mission. If you focus on your mission that you must fulfill at any cost, then people only matter in their informational content and material actions. People even appear as zombies because they ignore their own mission and aimlessly drift, caring for nothing but distractions.

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 No.132157

>>132134

Not a bad thread. Thanks, man.

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 No.132158

Is it possible to have a non-ego generated thought or decision?

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 No.132159

>>132158

yes, submit a patch to linux kernel as anonymous

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 No.132164

>>132146

"Build up a tolerance" really means learn to control your mind. If you're in a situation where control is necessary, such as experiencing torture secondhand, then you will be forced to learn control quicker. There's no magic bullet, you just need to develop psychic discipline.

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 No.132165

>>132158

actually this got me thinking

what if after you realise reality is a series of illusions and images, you form a belief that you have free will?

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 No.132166

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Why Life Seems to Speed Up as We Age

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 No.132168

>>132164

This right here.

>>132146

Adding to it, you need to take the time and meditate. A one good form is to focus singularly on a single idea or try and hold an empty mind and thing of nothing. Keep doing this for progressively longer duration until you can do this stuff at will.

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 No.132170

>>132166

As you age you have more to compare time to.

One year to a two year old is half it's life.

One year to a 50 year old is one fiftieth of it's life.

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 No.132171

>>132170

>As you age you have more to compare time to.

But nobody actively does that. Does the Fringe Wi[redacted] think "Sweet Jesus! (the Jewish man I now worship), according to my calculations I just used up 1/26th of a life"?

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 No.132172

>>132171

The conscious mind does not handle time-perception, the subconscious mind does.

ps, cripplekike is an evil little puke, HOPE HIS SKULL SHATTERS

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 No.132173

>>132166

Shit looks so gay I won't even bother watching it.

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 No.132174

>>132170

>>132166

Has /fringe/ degenerated so much we are linking Veritasium videos now? I’m genuinely pissed.

Life seems to speed up because by the time you are thirty in this modern society mundanes (that’s you faggots) are working 9 to 5 trying to pay a debt that will never disappear, doing exactly the same shit every day, grinding until the time you retire.

Once you retire, time seems to slow down again. Oh, I wonder why. Y the time this happens there is actual neurological damage due to dopamine receptor exhaustion and senility creeps in.

Get the fuck out of here with that normie bullshit.

You know what? Fuck you. There’s nothing to salvage in this board anyway. You can keep it reddit.

http://datapacrat.com/Opinion/Reciprocality/r1/index.html

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 No.132178

>>132140

>>132142

I've never seen somebody so stupid and evil.

>>132164

>>132168

You disciplined your mind by destroying your spiritual organs to cause a living death. Where did you ghouls come from?

>>132174

There's no point to this place until you feel the call. Then it's usually a single exchange, and the rest is malfunction. I shouldn't still be here, but I was calling that other guy a nigger, and now I see another plot developing. I'm done though. I not feeding the evil any more attention so they blow away to their cesspits.

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 No.132179

>>132178

You got a problem with black people?

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 No.132180

>>132179

Don't you?

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 No.132183

>>132178

New-age weenie. The correct function of the empathy organ is not to allow a constant intake of empathy; that is dangerous and dysfunctional practice. Leaves you wide open for attack or even incidental damage as the guy experienced. Control is not atrophy, it is evolution.

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 No.132187

If any kind of significant increase in occult power came from dismantling of the ego, and if to make the ego extremely weakened takes decades of meditation.

Then you would expect to attain some supernatural abilities from taking large doses of dmt/mushrooms/salvia/lsd atleast for a short period of time during or after the trip.

There's no way that the ego is related to occult power.

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 No.132188

>>132187

to clarify, there's no way that the destruction of the ego is related to occult power

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 No.132195

Has anyone here ever successfully assassinated someone with magic? Any tips?

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 No.132198

>>132195

There is a guy on meguca

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 No.132201

>>132198

Really? I thought it was all gals there.

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 No.132202

>>132188

>>132187

Kind of depends on what you mean by ego. That is something that has always bugged me. Because all I see is consciousness in different states.

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 No.132205

>>132202

oh that's true, if consciousness is everything then the ego must be made of consciousness too.

This makes the question of free will a lot more complicated.

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 No.132223

>>132205

Free will does not pertain to the ego but the spirit. Only something pertaining outside the realm of the Demiurge can have free will because like you intuited, the rules of this universe wouldn’t allow it.

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 No.132225

>>132223

well if everything is consciousness, wouldn't everything have free will?

I think what happens is a complicated balancing act between the free will of the ego and the free will of the observer

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 No.132227

>>132187

The goal of meditation is to perceive the ego as ultimately an illusion, not to dismantle it.

Unless your goal is also to become a dribbling moron who can't function socially.

Meditation can increase your concentration abilities and sensitivity to subtler energies which can open you up to occult powers.

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 No.132245

What is will exactly when it comes to performing magick?

Is it about trying really hard during a ritual like building up a lot of emotion or meditating for a very long time.

Or is it to do with practicing the willing of things? Like trying to will an object to do something the same way you will your arm to lift?

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 No.132254

Why can I see my mother's aura so vividly, yet can rarely see anyone else's?

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 No.132261

I currently find myself in ECUADOR.

Tell me, what cities/regions/hidden gems might be worth exploring?

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 No.132268

>>132245

It's the same thing that causes muscles to move on your command. Basically will is what delineates and directs psychic fuel to all your actions. "Trying really hard" consciously rarely works, for the same reason why just staring at your arm and mentally commanding it to move won't actually make it move. From my experience it seems that the will mainly resides in the passive-unconscious mind, so training of the will entails attempted balance of the active-passive minds in order to successfully create and specify thought-frameworks and fuel them with emotive-fuel so that results are manifested, according to the initial designs of the practitioner.

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 No.132272

How do I use magic to become rich?

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 No.132279

>>132272

Do you want a super detailed answer or a short answer?

I'll start with a short answer. You can mentally influence and synchronize events and persons to your advantage and also when you have great need then The All will provide. Very intense desires get fulfilled for better or worse.

Work on your character too and think of ways to get rich while fulfilling the desires of others and making a better country. You can compel people to buy shit they don't need and do stupid things but it's ill-advised for so many reasons. If you can work in a harmonious fashion with the universal spirit to get everything you need while fulfilling the needs of others that is best.

Personally I am very careful what I pray for, intend, and think because everything for me gets answered. Even for it to rain or not in a specific area and so on.

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 No.132281

>>132279

>it's ill-advised for so many reasons

such as?

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 No.132282

>>132281

The only real reason is that if you feel guilty you may inadvertently put out desire to receive punishment and thus create a boomerang effect. This isn't a problem if you commit to your actions and aren't crippled by a karmic mindset.

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 No.132285

>>132281

>such as?

Attracting resentment, people seeing you as shady and untrustworthy and slimey, and all the corresponding mental influences that one attracts from duping people into doing things they shouldn't and that they will regret.

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 No.132289

>>132279

Is there a way to do it without putting in hard work?

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 No.132291

>>132289

Magic can only create opportunities for you, it's useless if you're unwilling to capitalize on them.

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 No.132294

>>132268

This is a very good explanation.

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 No.132295

>>132282

There is another drawback: if you are not aware of the subtle reality around you, you might be pissing off the wrong spirit and getting into trouble.

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 No.132297

>>132295

That's true of pretty much everything though.

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 No.132304

tl;dr Can someone explain the foundational ideas behind LBRP and the Middle Pillar rituals and what's happening during each step?

Several books and things call for the LBRP and Middle Pillar rituals in specific contexts, but they never seem to explain why you're meant to do any particular step. I don't like doing something without understanding the foundational theory behind it all. For example, reality creation makes perfect sense within the paradigm of the astral plane and the ideas of thoughtforms and emotional resonance, and having learned about all of that theory from books and contemplating it, I understand how reality creation works and can do it confidently, and have had success with it. But I can't find explanations for these rituals, so I don't know what I'd actually be doing on a non-physical level at each step. Why are you meant to use planetary symbols, and why are you meant to face certain directions, and why are you meant to draw a pentagram in the air? I know enough about basic Qabalah and Tree of Life stuff that I understand some of it, but I'm waiting to get into the practical side of it all until I'm in a place in life in which I can at least get through most of IIH. That said, several authors say that these rituals are even useful for beginners or are even necessary to accomplish entry-level tasks, implying you don't need to be super advanced to be evoking fucking archangels and pledging allegiance to the demiurge in Hebrew. So what's the deal with these rituals?

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 No.132309

>>132304

Multiple things. What happens on a non-physical level is manifold but most often serves simply to tear down personal barriers of perception. Most importantly the perception barrier of powerlessness. When doing rituals of any kind you're tinkering foremost with your mindbody.

>planetary symbols

Because they each have different emotional, idealistic and philosophical associations and correspondences that are rooted deeply into our collective subconscious. When invoking let's say fire, you're simultaneously invoking more or less every single spirit associated with that element. Depending on intent you'll get different results. F.e. when you're more into abrahamic stuff, your connection to abrahamic entities associated with that element gets much stronger as opposed to non-abrahamic entities associated with the same materials. Same for directions or even colours.

>useful for beginners

Absolutely. Most of this stuff works despite disbelief. It just works marvellously better when thought and action align. This is what these rituals are for. To align you to your personal highest divinity.

In any case you should only do the stuff that works for you.

Hope that helps in any way.

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 No.132315

>>129652

>>129650

Thanks! What do you think about PCOS?

Girls are told that not being able to have periods is a bad thing.

The doctors literally giving my (girl) friend hormone supplements to make her have periods again.

Originally they said that she should go on the pill to have more regular cycles or some bullshit.

What the fuck is wrong with doctors?

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 No.132326

Two nights before I had awoken abruptly and precisely at 3:33 AM

Day after was playing video games and had a stack of 3,333 of a single item in my inventory

This phenomena has been occurring for a few years now but never with such frequency. I had some dealings with 'David Icke' and chaos magic when I started noticing these occurrences, and have distanced myself since, but the syncronicites continue!

What does this mean? Any with similar dealings? Please help a noob out!

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 No.132327

>>132326

K*K K E K *EK

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 No.132340

>>132309

>Most of this stuff works despite disbelief.

While you explained at least a tiny bit of it all, I think you're missing the point. The fact that it works despite disbelief is exactly why it shocks me that anyone would recommend, as I said, evoking archangels, talking platitudes to YHVH, drawing a pentagram in the air and merging with planetary symbols to someone who probably hasn't even been into this stuff for more than a week or two. That's insane. Almost every other school of thought explains everything in depth before you even begin. What I said about reality creation is a good example. People go into great detail about the potential to completely destroy your life if you aren't careful. These rituals are just given in steps and you're told to do them without explanation of all the many complicated concepts involved. I've been an occultist for maybe 3 or 4 years now and I understand probably half of what happens in them (given, I've focused on entirely different schools of thought for the most part). So where are people meant to learn about all of the concepts behind these rituals, and why in the hell are beginners meant to do them? There's a reason threads like >>128815 exist: because none of this is ever explained fucking nearly enough, and anyone who doesn't want to ruin their own life knows to actually understand every underlying principle of something to some degree before you do it.

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 No.132342

File: ec5ad1ff5be3fba⋯.jpg (104.1 KB,1280x853,1280:853,1483467312001.jpg)

I've been a lurker so far, this is my first post.

I'm intrigued, but a bit skeptical. I would like to ask if anyone here has had personal experiences with paranormal events or acts, magick or anything of the sort? If so, what and how? I'd be especially interested to hear something that is easy to replicate, to confirm it myself.

t. wants to believe

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 No.132346

File: 0376c4aa2d55f47⋯.png (313.17 KB,801x261,89:29,ClipboardImage.png)

>>132342

Energy body manipulation gets pretty immediate results in terms of physical sensation, there's nothing demonstratively paranormal about entry level stuff though. Read Robert Bruce's books in the library if you're interested.

You could also try pic related, I've never done it personally.

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 No.132348

>>132342

Astral projection is a pretty well known starting point, but it can be pretty difficult for most people. You could try reality creation, but it tends to work best if you're already convinced to some degree. >>104268 is a good thread if you want to go down that road. You could also try the Monroe Institute Gateway Experience hemisync tapes if you can find a torrent. Without being too specific about my experience, when I did the tape on disc 3 that involves sending someone a message astrally, they responded within a minute or so of me coming out of the meditation, and I hadn't communicated with them physically in months. There's also a lot of scientific research that doesn't get very much public discussion, but it's out there. There are 80,000+ (I think) declassified documents from the CIA's Project Stargate (long story short they used controlled remote viewing to spy on the Russians after taking the concept from the Russians). The Monroe Institute, who I already mentioned, have done a bunch of astral projection research that you can read about in Robert Monroe's books. There are also a few specific scientists who you might find interesting, like Rupert Sheldrake. A lot of scientific study surrounding this sort of thing is pretty flawed though unfortunately (Charles Tart is a good example).

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 No.132353

File: ce43f0709a9dc98⋯.png (923.31 KB,740x900,37:45,1522769618233.png)

Is the body-switching expert anon still here?

Would be good to get to know how to do it right about now…

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 No.132361

File: 2412cb2f974c6eb⋯.mp4 (9.44 MB,1280x720,16:9,This is extremely dangerou….mp4)

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 No.132362

File: 4cdb8ea87c24c15⋯.mp4 (9.23 MB,640x360,16:9,DeusEx.mp4)

>>132361

>corporatocracy

Once you reach a high enough point on the pyramid it's impossible to distinguish corporations from government. They, the Illuminatus, see themselves as 'shepherds to humanity'; neutering potentiality all in the name of their cattle.

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 No.132376

>>132353

You will never make it. You were told everything you needed to know, but instead of practicing, you are still waiting for someone to take your hand and do the hard work for you.

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 No.132379

>>132376

Huh? There was never any info posted here on how to do it

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 No.132382

File: 6647557c34fde6e⋯.png (43.1 KB,1067x648,1067:648,2019-06-17 (11_38_05).png)

File: 8701deb06f367af⋯.png (55.58 KB,1058x887,1058:887,2019-06-17 (11_38_23).png)

>>>/christian/ is firmly under control of >>>/leftypol/ trying to make sure that Christianity itself dies.

Only >>>/fringe/ has real freedom of speech.

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 No.132383

>>132379

You must

1. Learn to reliably astral project on command with at least the vividity of a dream.

2. Learn to move the energy of your own and other bodies with a high degree of precision and potency; enough to kill a person through vampirism, since you'll be doing this to your own body.

You see why this is a high-level technique. If you can do those two things you would be pretty much a magus and thus far ahead 99% of the people here.

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 No.132384

>>132383

This. It's so simple, yet requires a lifetime (or more) of dedication.

>since you'll be doing this to your own body

The cases I know wouldn't kill themselves. They would select someone (sometimes their own son), keep them close and have everything prepared so that when they died, they would transfer over and easily recover their money and property. Descendants are ideal for obvious reasons.

>>132379

With the above post and the books that have been recommended on OBE (John Kreiter) you have everything you need, as indigo pill said, to basically win at magic. Maybe your projections will feel like daydreams at first. Don't be afraid to be a noob. You will get better. All you need to do is do the work.

Also, maybe you want to check out Michelle Belanger's The Psychic Energy Codex. But don't get obsessed with reading books or that's all you'll ever do. Practice. Take at least an astral stroll every day around the corner and do at least a couple energy exercises like qi gong or the middle pillar or something like that. Meditate anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes a day. That's a good minimum. But remember you get out as much as you put in.

Honestly at the level of proficiency at which you can prolong your physical existence by hopping bodies, there is so much you could potentially accomplish, that kind of pales in comparison.

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 No.132388

>>132384

>>132383

Interesting.

I never thought something like that possible.

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 No.132404

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Does anyone have a link to Michael Tsarion's old youtube videos, from the self-titled channel?

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 No.132421

>>132384

Come on it's pretty easy, Uncle Chuckie will tell ya all about it!

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 No.132493

I think it was 2-3 maybe 4 years ago that someone posted a youtube channel here on /fringe/ which was run by a guy who obviously had gone crazy (from lsd I think?) and was uploading videos of him speaking about crazy mostly nonsense stuff.

He was swarthy with black hair, in the first videos he was kinda normal but in later videos he had tattoos and had grown a beard.

Anyone knows the channel?

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 No.132495

Are there any books that examine telekinesis and other types of gross manipulation from an occult standpoint rather than a parapsychological one?

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 No.132496

>>132493

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL0f_R_6TFdxg722i5-jL0Q/ This was the link to his channel. It doesn't exist anymore. I don't remember what it was called but I'm 99% sure it's the guy you're talking about. There was a picture here around that long ago of the start of his channel before he'd gone insane and he looked like a relatively normal dude who had a beginner's interest in some branch of occultism I think, and then the comparison picture with his crazy hairdo and his face tattoos and all the nonsense schizo ramble video names and descriptions. I think he might have been part black or hispanic or something, right? The only archive on any archive website that I could find was here https://web.archive.org/web/20170328112807/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL0f_R_6TFdxg722i5-jL0Q/ where it says his channel was terminated for going against YouTube's guidelines back in 2017. Maybe he showed his junk or something. One of the videos I found in my browser history was called "REIGNBEAU GAD UV ALL LHIGHT 666", if that helps. I'm going to look in a few other places because I want to figure out what happened to that guy too now.

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 No.132502

Do supernatural beings exist in the physical density? I've read about astral beings like gnomes, salamanders, demons, etc., but are there such beings that spend all or the majority of their time fully physically manifested?

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 No.132505

>>132496

Thanks a lot, I wish those videos could be found again, this guy was unique.

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