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20b23a  No.826847[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Welcome! This is a board for Christian discussion. Please read the rules linked above before posting.

>Even on a Christian board, use tor or a trusted VPN.

>Rules have been updated

>Logs are opened

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If you are interested in being a volunteer, please email christchannel@pm.me

If your Christian church isn't represented in the flags and you would like one, tell me the name and post the appropriate emblem ITT

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9184fe  No.834768

board css breaks when playing embed OP videos

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5d5fa1  No.829354[Reply]

Please watch and read and reflect. It may be helpful to anyone who is extremely worried. I understand people are afraid. But the LORD is always in control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUxk8-Uosx8

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/cs-lewis-coronavirus/

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/cs-lewis-and-the-coronavirus.html

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28c690  No.826900[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

How do you bros avoid the sin of pornography/masturbation?

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ffe3e8  No.834853

>>834600

God bless you man, I hope you are doing well.

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01b56c  No.834860

>>834853

I'm doing well, I'm on Day 10. Thank you brother.

Last night I did saw my GF naked. But that's natural and not pornographic.

We didn't do anything and I retained my seed.

Let me tell you the first benefit I notice is a cleaner brighter skin. Mentally, not much, the temptation and the sexual thoughts are weaker but now they just pop up randomly.

I still get thoughts of sexually ravaging a woman I see wearing anything remotely lewd, but I never let it go far, I cut it as soon I see it.

My goal is 6 months of retention and no porn. Until I marry my wife I will refrain from forrnication.

Good luck to all of you. Remain strong in faith and walk in the Kingdom of Heaven.

My one advice: do not succumb to instant pleasure. Happiness is long-term.

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a8bcb8  No.834894

I am very depressed because of my addiction to porn.

It's like it gets even worse when I try to quit.

Today I got off to some very very very vile things that I wouldn't even normally consider.

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798ca8  No.834901

>>834789

I just thought I'd let you know that you don't have to post on an imageboard. There are textboards too.

Personally, I think one of the great benefits to learning Japanese would be the ability to post on more popular textboards. No images and due to their popularity, plenty of discussion about all sorts of topics.

For the time being, I must admit that English-speaking textboards are hard to find. I found one for programming that I think may be of use to me some day as I intend to take programming seriously at some point and I found this site:

http://afternoon.dynu.com/index.html

But yeah, textboards are hard to find, it seems.

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9231f4  No.834902

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>>834894

You can do it, coomerdox bro. Thank your demons for reminding it's time for prayer and fresh air.

If you can fall low, you can soar high.

>Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you

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9f4083  No.834866[Reply]

Thoughts on folk Catholicism?

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d92c3b  No.834887

>>834881

>Going through levels of "initiation", and "purging", and trial has it's roots in all mystery cults.

On a side note, what is Baptism if not an initiation into the church and purging of demons and sins? Heathens do not have a monopoly in this.

What I, particularly, see as a true problem in the folk understanding of Christianity is the wrong idea that purpose of church rituals is to pay one's debts with God. One couldn't even begin to repay his sins.

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50245b  No.834889

>>834887

Baptism is not initiation in that sense. It was originally just a cleansing ritual. No different than the cleansing of, say, cups and bowls for the Temple. That is, to take something normal, and setting it aside for holy use. Thus it is for a person too. Nothing special that the cup or bowl or the person had to go through to be set aside. God simply called them for himself. If anything, the real "work" of holiness only came after. Not before (as in an initiation). For the new believer in the church, it was confession to Jesus Christ and accepting his atonement that made them members. His blood and hard work did that. Not theirs.

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50245b  No.834890

>>834887

For the record, I understand your concern at the end too. I feel like I somewhat ignored that, but we appear to be of the same mind on that.

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a0267c  No.834897

>>834881

I don't get this "good news" attitude.

The Lord became human, was born into this world, tried to teach us, and was slandered, beaten, scourged horribly and without mercy, mocked, whipped and made to carry the cross to his death (the cross being the burden of all our sins), was nailed up there and then died after three hours of suffering. Most of the Apostles and disciples abandoned him to die there.

This is good news? It's horrible. Yes, he died so he can judge us, the living and the dead, for our sins… but Good news? Our sins did this, how is it something to be happy about? Our Lord and Our God suffered our sins, and it's Good News?

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d92c3b  No.834900

>>834889

>For the new believer in the church, it was confession to Jesus Christ and accepting his atonement that made them members.

Well, we're getting too rigorist but one will get Baptized due to interest in the faith - as you said correctly. Though Christ does command people to be Baptized, nonetheless.

>>834897

It is. You talk about the passion as if he never rose. You have forgotten that Christ is risen! and death is defeated.

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498d60  No.834896[Reply]

I've recently regained faith and I want to read through the entire Bible. I've already read the New Testament and about 3 or 4 books of the OT. And the Gospels I read several times

I want to do this right however.

Given the situation, would it be right to read one Gospel (I was thinking John), then the rest of the NT at the same time with the OT (probably skipping Genesis, Exodus and Deut.)?

I want to get all the information before doing a more thorough re-read cover to cover.

Thoughts? Any tips?

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1be364  No.834899

Read a few psalms everyday, this is just fun overall.

I would recommend going Genesis, big jump to Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Job, Tobit, Isaiah, and then a cover-to-cover.

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b5bfb7  No.834502[Reply]

What do you guys think about this franchise?

The point of most games is to literally partner up with demons and either serve or kill the game's version of God, who's pretty much the jewish God with the actual name. The games usually have a few routes to go about through the story.

Personally, I had a great time rp-ing as a holy man during the Law route in SMT IV, even if the game's depiction of God is very fundamentally wrong. He is seen as unforgiving and very authoritarian. (I did this before being a believer)

Pic related is what your partner turns into when he fuses with the angels. He becomes Merkabah who "is made of many Ophanim, Seraphim and Chayots. " as the wiki says

The game also features Lucifer as your main partner is the chaos route.

I think we should avoid this game series, but honestly this used to be my favorite game franchise from way before they were popular so I'm kinda conflicted.

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c0bb26  No.834821

>>834502

Love whatever you want, man. Far as I remember the game series takes inspiration from A LOT of japanese folklore and various religions for the cool factor (Don't remember if there's really a lore explanation)

I don't think it's even necessarily a jewish God figure but just your interpretation of it. I only played the Persona series and the very first SMT where you defeat cyber demons which is as far away from satanic as I can think of.

Hate the sinner, not the game

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c0da6f  No.834837

Ever since playing Super Mario RPG as a kid I've had a love/hate relationship with the genre. I'm mildly obsessed with JRPGs. I've been making a soundtrack for an imaginary RPG in my head and the songs are coming out pretty good. When I show them online people usually praise them.

But yeah my feelings on the genre are conflicted. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Breath of Fire, you name it, these games are steeped in the occult. This stems from the original D&D influence, of course. D&D was influenced by benign things like Tolkien, but it was also influenced by actual occultism. So it's messy.

The fact that you can "summon" beings in Final Fantasy was already a bit worrisome. And then of course you get the culmination of that in the Persona series, where the whole thing actually revolves around summoning demons. And the killing God thing is a trope in the genre. The storylines are usually heavily gnostic.

When I was a teen I cast all my games into an evangelical bonfire of the vanities. More recently I've been going through some spiritual problems and I broke my Bloodborne and Nioh PS4 CDs and threw them in the trash. Maybe I'm being too puritanical, I don't know.

I love video games but a lot of the coolest games seem to be steeped in occultism, violence and general darkness. Which makes for a cool aesthetic, but does it make for holy living?

I'm rambling, i'm sorry. And these issues are also applicable to other creative/artistic fields. But I think I might give up video games, they seem to get in the way when I really try to live a holy life.

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b9f518  No.834850

>>834502

Video games a childish and gay. Men put away childish things.

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b2e99a  No.834851

>>834502

Video games are stupid and childish. Men put away childish things.

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88c279  No.834898

>>834837

>And then of course you get the culmination of that in the Persona series, where the whole thing actually revolves around summoning demons.

Admittedly, I've never played Persona 1 nor 2 nor have I seen gameplay of them but nonetheless, surely in Persona 3 and onwards, the "demons" you summon are actually beings you summon forth from the unconscious? Isn't that the lore?

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e256bb  No.834852[Reply]

When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.

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ebdfec  No.834855

I watched the cartoon when I was in like 9th or 10th grade. Only acted a bit autistic for a while.

I'mma be honest, it's a very very good cartoon. It's such a bummer that people would do things like this.

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e0817c  No.834858

>>834852

The problem if these definitions are becoming nebulous, in primitive societies there was a clear initiation into adulthood, now aslong as u have a job you can do whatever as long as u don't hurt anybody.

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e256bb  No.834875

>>834858

>u have a job you can do whatever as long as u don't hurt anybody.

That’s the same thing sodomites say. You know that isn’t true. Manchildism very much ruined society.

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5edcd5  No.834895

>>834875

I don't think Manchildism is what ruined society since I believe Manchildism to ultimately be a fruit of Feminism.

When women were given the ability to enter the workforce and earn their own income and then given the ability to divorce their husbands on a whim (No-Fault Divorce), society shifted such that sons were now being raised by their mothers rather than their fathers. Combine this with the deliberate absence of respectable, male role models (e.g. sitcoms featuring fathers who are bumbling idiots, lucky to have a wife) and I believe you cannot truly blame the Manchild for being the way he is. He is an engineered product of the corrupt rulers of our society. You can show him the error of his ways and hope he sees the light but I do not think one should be shocked that he returns to his former ways. This is ultimately because he sees living like "an adult" as an unnecessary, traditional convention that he has no need to comply with.

Despite saying this, I wish to also say that I don't advocate for hating women since I believe that they too were ultimately going with the flow, presented with options they saw no reason to reject. In fact, I believe Feminism was ultimately a CIA-operation. Gloria Steinem, one of the leading Feminists confessed to have been working with the CIA. I believe she stated she knew they were using her, it's just that she agreed with the cause.

Given all this, I do not think society's downfall is truly his fault. Knowing no better, he merely went with the flow. If you had the mind to question the flow then that is simply by the grace of God, not anything on your own.

Truly, take a moment to contemplate it. Think about how normal it is that men are manly in the world and then consider the "men" of modern western society. Think of the multi-generational effort required to break men down in order to get them into their current state. This is not natural and not a coincidence. No man would naturally be a Manchild.

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92f5f9  No.832826[Reply]

I'm gay and I just want to ask one honest question: why do modern Christians reject gayness as this horrible sin and accept modern theories about race? Modern Christians are against slavery, against segregation, anti-racism, pro-interracial marriage… completely different from the Christians before it. Are the Christians from the past all burning in hell for supporting slavery, the apartheid, Jim Crow laws, etc?

Also the same people that promote LGBT stuff also promote the race stuff that Christians agree with, so it's a bit confusing.

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70299e  No.834874

>>832826

>I'm gay

>anime

not surprised

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da2864  No.834888

>>832928

Slave meant anyone who had to work for a living. Lords were expected to care for them.

Slave just meant wageslave. The liberation of slaves is not freedom for the slaves but freedom of the masters from the slavery. Of course slave masters did not care for serfs always and never cared about colonial slaves but at the very least there was the pretense that Lords are responsible for their servants well-being. This is very Christian. Nowadays, they can fire you at will. This is very Talmudic.

Wageslaves are less than a slave.

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088a5d  No.834891

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>>834888

>Nooo employers can't fire people

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4f23b7  No.834892

There are enough differences between colonial slavery and ancient (especially Jewish) that they might as well be different issues. Colonial slavery is caught up in a lot of racial nonsense. While the bible had slaves in their own society (and so did Asians and Europeans). In the bible, sometimes people willingly contracted themselves to it as well (such as Jacob contracting himself 7 years for marriage to Rachel), and the Bible required that you MUST free slaves after 7 years. In addition to that, you MUST cancel all debts after 7 years (so no indefinite economical slaves either). You could only keep them IF said slave wanted to stay. In which case, he would practically be a new member of the household - and Gentile slaves would convert to Judaism and become Jews, rather than mere outsiders.

It was often a punishment too. They didn't the same kind of penal system that we do.

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4f23b7  No.834893

>>834892

Oh, and on a sidenote, even the Babylonians (code of Hammurabi) had widespread debt cancellation. How pathetic does modern society have to be, when even the Babylonians have more sense?

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da2ee6  No.829730[Reply]

Syrian Catholic here. I would like to hear your thought on the pagan elements of Indian Christianity, especially the Christianity in Kerala and TN from where I come from and existed here since the pre-medieval times, maybe even before Europe (if you go by the St. Thomas version of the origin of Christians in Kerala) so it had more time to be influenced by Hinduism.

These pagan elements go beyond just mere mimicking of Hindu customs and practices. It's reflected in the religious beliefs too such as belief in a pantheistic/monistic version of God, viewing the individual saints as sort of 'demi gods' to whom you pray directly, viewing Mother Mary as a feminine counter part to Jesus/God, etc…

There is even local myths and legends that mixes Hindu mythology and legends with local Christian mythology. For eg- Kadamathatu Kattanar is a household name and a very famous folk hero in Kerala who is a Christian priest who trained magic under a tribal priest and performed various magic, fought and defeated many yakshis(A revengeful spirit in Hindu mythology), etc…

Some Christians such as my mother herself believes that what they call 'Hell/Purgatory' is Earth itself(Obviously a version of Hindu reincarnation myth) and most Christians I know accept some form of Omnist belief that 'all gods are one and all religions contain the truth' and stuff.

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29019a  No.834581

>>830100

Thank you, anon. Most have trouble seeing the log in our own eyes.

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51a8fd  No.834617

File: eb77324a2e076b8⋯.jpg (232.48 KB, 331x450, 331:450, St_Gregory_of_Nyssa.jpg)

>>829905

It's not a symbol, it's the letter 'O' and the letter 'S' together. The ending is ος in 'Ágios and Gregórios.

Though I can't speak if an icon in the internet was made in bad faith or not.

There is a lot of variation in handwriting, nevertheless.

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3a1f5a  No.834865

>>834617

This, except that it is a symbol.

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77c644  No.834868

indians are stinky poo poos in the loo loos you cant be christians only whites can tiggers and kikes and hindu retards like u automatically go to hell as ionly white scan be saved

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29019a  No.834885

>>834868

Not even good bait. But in the off-chance that it actually isn't bait and you're truly this ignorant, the Apostle Thomas himself brought the gospel to Indians in the first century. You go against Christ himself when he said to bring the gospel to all of the world. You suppress the Holy Spirit himself who led Thomas to establish a church in India.

You WILL meet him on judgement day, and WILL have to defend every single stupid thing you say, and WILL face the treatment you wish on everyone else. Everything you have ever relied on or known or use to weasel your way through your pathetic life will not work on this day. And you'll never get another chance once the hammer comes down. Unless you repent.

"But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken." - Matthew 12:36

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a49450  No.834790[Reply]

what are some good resources, books, etc on ufos and aliens from reputable sources, from religious and secular perspective? I already read seraphim rose's 'orthodoxy and the religion of the future' he seems to cite jacques vallee alot.

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63655b  No.834864

>>834863

Also how you can see different constellations from south and north

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da39e7  No.834867

>>834839

So how do you flat earthers explain satillites, then? I can go anywhere on earth and tune into GPS or a satillite radio music station. Obviously, the signal itself is real, so I assume you must have some alternate explanation for where the signal is coming from?

There's also the fact that the International Space Station is readily and predictably visible to the naked eye, assuming you're in the right spot along its path.

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84d3e4  No.834871

>>834820

>Is that phenomenon not accounted for on this flat earth model?

No, and this is not a physics forum.

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84d3e4  No.834872

I worked for a company that tested airplane navigation systems. One manufacture forgot the earth is round and the airplane went off course. We told them the earth is round and they revised the software… they made a cylindrical earth.

I mean, these guys shouldn't be in business.

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07a94f  No.834873

Earths shadow on the moon should be the basis for the newest and most revealing dig ever. Perhaps even anti- Christ should be googled.

It’s presence is a sure sign that the earth is flat.

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b9561a  No.658214[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

NON EST VERA LIBERTAS NISI IN SOLA ECCLESIA CATHOLICA

The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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202206  No.834703

>>834238

>>834701

then flair up boyos

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c54842  No.834727

Haven't even gotten the chance to start RCIA yet, but I'm about to go to my first Latin mass. I'm pretty exited; it's something I wanted to do as soon as I joined the Church, but none of my local parishes do them regularly so I have to take this opportunity.

It will feel a bit odd because I still barely know anything, but I have heard great things about the TLM.

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c629e1  No.834796

>>834727

Is it an SSPV church that is having mass? I know the FSSP is shut down and the SSPX website says they're shut down too.

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efde40  No.834842

How does reconciliation work? If you've lied to someone, are you obligated to tell them every one of your lies? If you've stolen from someone, are you obligated to tell them and give it back? If you've broken the law, are you obligated to go to an authority and go to jail? Or does the priest just make you pray a couple of times and then you're good?

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c629e1  No.834870

>>834842

The priest tells you in confession what you have to do to set it right e.g. if you stole, you give back what you stole. If you slandered someone, you apologize to whom you've harmed and tell the people you told the lie that you were wrong.

Basic human decency, really; if you're repentant, you have to undo the harm you did and ask forgiveness of God. The praying part is for the forgiveness from God, undoing the harm you did to others and asking them to forgive you is to obtain their forgiveness.

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2dd102  No.834334[Reply]

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3d4f9c  No.834854

>>834458

I'm pretty sure a lot of MLK's writings were actually composed by his Jewish communist (and therefore anti-Christian) handlers. He probably didn't even know or understand a large portion of the material attributed to him. This is not to defend him of course. Obviously, he was a bad actor and not a serious religious leader, but it's highly likely some of his "intellectual work" was Jewish subversion that he merely went along with.

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4f51f5  No.834857

>>834383

>Christianity is associated with less government

Woke Christians reject current government because modern governments reject Christianity. When Christians had the power to control, we didn't choose less governance, we had monarchies. Western society from the 1700s on stood on the shoulders on Christian monarch imperialism and thought they knew better, and only decayed culturally onward. Breaking up Christian empires is only the handwork of Satan.

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a94c90  No.834859

>>834846

Yeah, and the coin is called "division of labour".

There's nothing magical or conspiratorial about economic theory, since capitalism and communism are literally the end-points of the only spectrum in which you can divide property and wealth in a society.

All other forms are pretty much state capitalism in which party-connected oligarchs get state contracts, vague woo like distributism, which no one on this planet can explain how it's supposed to be implemented IRL, or various strains of anarcho-hipsterism, which are impossible to function in real life for more than a couple of years.

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497b30  No.834861

Help me understand something, guys. Libertarian theory dictates less state involvement because the state is corrupt and breeds corruption. The more powerful the state becomes, the more corrupt it becomes, even if the ruler is benevolent. How is it not Christian to reject this? I understand the concept of Christofacism, for example, like the Iron Guard under Codreanu, among others, where the State is used to orient people towards God, but then again I don't need the state to tell me how to get closer to God, when I have the Church to do it. Now, if we're talking about something like the Papal States, for example, then that's something else, where the Church is head of State.

Sorry for the small ramble.

I'm an Eastern Catholic, but there isn't a flag for that.

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2a5ea3  No.834862

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ba50db  No.834849[Reply]

Friendly reminder psychology was never a real science. It’s a secular religion that ruined millions of lives in the west. Psychologists vote what they consider conditions. Instead of research. Psychology the mainstream transgender get pushed on the public. We wouldn’t have the LGBT movement without psychology.

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19f5c5  No.834767[Reply]

https://archive.is/OXmkM

>Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves on Thursday condemned a church fire that's being investigated as an arson. First Pentecostal Church in Holly Springs burned on Wednesday, about a month after it filed a lawsuit challenging city restrictions on gatherings amid the coronavirus pandemic.

>News outlets reported that investigators from the Marshall County Sheriff’s Office found graffiti in the church parking lot that read: “Bet you stay home now you hypokrites.”

>Pastor Jerry Waldrop said he and other church leaders have no idea who might have set the fire or left the graffiti.

>The church sued the city of Holly Springs in April, alleging police officers had disrupted a church Bible study and Easter service. Holly Springs City Attorney Shirley Byers said nearly 40 worshipers inside the church building were not practicing social distancing on April 10 when a violation citation was issued for the church.

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2b50a3  No.834794

The globalist are using this virus to shut down Christianity.

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3b56e7  No.834797

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>>834794

I doubt. It's lukewarms to blame, as usual.

http://archive.is/5L9Y7

Listen to this quote:

>Christianity is about life, not risking death for the sake of spirituality

Merely sharing the Gospel could lead someone to death in the first centuries and even today elsewhere. The only reason this idiot even heard of Christ is because this is not true.

A Christian does not fear death, for where is its sting?

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10f6af  No.834815

We need more info. I'm suspicious of what happened. The graffiti leads me to believe it might be a false flag, especially since it was misspelled.

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e29e07  No.834847

>>834767

Well that’s ((America)) for you.

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dc04d8  No.833397[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I typed this up and would like to see what you guys think.

For people that aren't cathlodox add what views/doctrines or verses you think should go on it.

For cathlodox keep it to saying why the verse doesn't disprove said doctrine. For example, why Act 8:37 doesn't show infant baptism isn't valid, not bring up some other verse on why it is valid.

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4aa031  No.834814

>>834788

>Care to elaborate? That statement is on par with the Mormons. Flat-out rejection of history is simply ludicrous and not even protestant. It's restorationist which is heresy beyond reconciliation. Protestantism is a supposed *reformation,* not restoration.

That's because these IFB types ARE as bad as restorationists. They've lost all love for the historical church even by Protestant standards and create pseudo histories of a "secret sect" of Baptists existing for 2 millennia (no joke).

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b7002b  No.834817

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1e4ec1  No.834832

>>834817

On what authority do you base your new testament canon?

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b7002b  No.834833

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>>834832

lol I'll take it as a yes.

No I'm not interested in playing your "gotcha" games yet again. Just go to gotquestions.org.

If you want to criticize the protestant approach to the canon feel free to make a thread devoted to it.

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c38bd5  No.834836

>>834788

>Care to elaborate?

How do you think we got the received text of the Bible?

>That statement is on par with the Mormons.

Not really, in fact Mormons deny Matthew 16:18 in saying they had to have a latter day prophet restore the church. That's no different than the Marcionites who claimed Marcion had to receive later-day revelations 116 years after Christ and added more stuff to scripture.

>If you're not that at least that, as in, actually protestant, then you're either very very ill-read -by protestant standards or you're about as Christian as a JW or a Mormon or a Muhammadan or a Freemason or a Scientologist.

My church is founded by the Lord Jesus Christ in the first century, so no it's not the same really. There is no other founder or source of doctrine.

>U know, my favourite versions of the Bible are the KJV and the J.N. Darby translation. Yet I'm still a Catholic. Probably a shocker to you.

Not really, because basically once you introduce corruptions you become a multiple version only doctrine follower. Many MVOs these days use the KJV while mixing it up every now and then.

>betrays the fact that you think we have a different version of the new testament -we don't

Well, there's really two aspects to this. First, some people in former times tried to destroy the received text and replace it with this text we find in the Vulgate (changes John 3:5, Matthew 6:11, etc.) however they never managed to erase the pure received text, so the next best thing they could do was become MVO after failing to burn the unaltered form of the Bible, which is where we're now at. Also the vast majority of protestants are now MVO as well, due to the modern versions.

>It's the exact same and Catholics should know -the Catholic church is the one who compiled it.

You realize they compiled a version with apocrypha and alterations though. How could you say I'm relying onPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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