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>>842267

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that /pol/ isn't a disgusting dumpster of a board. I won't even argue that it doesn't deserve to be shut down for its insanity and massive base of users that don't even understand the meaning of "logical fallacy".

But if you're going to tell me the reason it should be shut down is:

>Someone did a crime and talked about it in this place before doing it, so therefore we should shut down the place they posted to

Then I'm absolutely going to call you stupid, you can't hold someone or something responsible for the actions of another.

Could the mods have responded faster? Probably. Should there have been more mods to keep and eye on the board? Most likely. But unless you're an absolute master of psychology I doubt even you could easily discern the manifesto of a psychotic killer from an edgy teenager from /b/.

Despite the general goals of most people on /pol/ being different from the goal of the website as a whole, the main purpose of the site is still freedom of speech. And if you're going to aim for absolute freedom of speech (within the law) you're still going to have to give a lot of people the benefit of the doubt at times when they post edgy/tasteless comments until it can be shown that there is actual criminal activity.

So no stream today?

>>842683

Please explain how microagressions could ever be anything but insane

>>842699

Let's say, muslims treating christians in disparaging ways in their countries(or insert whatever second-class minorities you like).

Not anything overt, but belittling and degrading minor every day things.

Bibi, the woman from Pakistan that nearly got executed by islamic fundies, got into problems starting with something like that.

Of course, the concept is subjective and was criticized even in the psych field, before the intersectionalist retards morphed it into something incredibly retarded, but the concept isn't that ridiculous, in the abstract.

>>842700

Belittlement and insults are a real thing and are not the same thing as the made up concept of microagressions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression

>Microaggression is a term used for brief and commonplace daily verbal, behavioural, or environmental indignities, whether intentional or unintentional, that communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative prejudicial slights and insults toward any group, particularly culturally marginalized groups.

>>842701

So your main grip is it being unintentional?

Being discriminatory towards a group, without meaning to, or considering it normal, isn't that far-fetched.

Again, the concept was a bit shaky from the get-go, and the intersectionalist retards blowing it out of proportion and combining it with their marxism-meets-american identity politics certainly hasnt helped, but the core idea isn't that weird.

>>842706

I deal with micro aggressions from humanity in general every day. I want reparations and justice.

Perhaps you need to get a proper plan of spiritual exercises. Start small, smaller than you think would make any difference.

What helps me is disciplined routine, normalfags can drink, eat and sleep anything and anytime they want and continue functioning in the world. However if you have a history of isolation and depression, discipline is your greatest friend. Have proper time-schedules for prayer and fasting, also for work, study, and sleep. Socializing is also a necessity.

I believe there is not much to say to another, but there is much to do to oneself. Advice is not be heard, but to be done.

I think that it is rather the uncomfortable feeling that compels one to masturbation that is destroys, not the pleasurable orgasm. Learning to not mind this discomfort is a great spiritual task, the same goes for any craving.

Particularly, the Jesus prayer helps me. Learning how to do it properly might help you, as well. God bless.

>>836421

Hey OP, recovering addict myself. I know of your pains for I used to delve in the same filth as you.

I am glad that this happened tho, because one day, one of those demonic videos said: "Click here if you want to stray from God". And for the life of me I couldn't click it besides being an atheist at the time. In my country we have a saying that is God writes straight, with curved lines. You already know God, and you believe in Him, isn't that great? Isn't it great that you can express your relationship to God? Isn't it great that you know that what you are doing to yourself is filthy?

God has brought you home, but you're still choosing to play in the mud. You must be the priest of your temple. Yes, these demons will come and you smash them with the hammer. You are in control if you let God puppet you. Let the Holy Spirit control you. Relinquish your control, your reasoning and your awesome logic, because at the end of the day we are pretty stupid. Even though you know you shouldn't do X you still do it. Just trust Jesus, and love him and Father with all the heart you got. Practise more gratitude for Jesus and Father. They want to help you but you are not letting them fully into your life.

We're all sinners. I haven't watched that kind of material in a long time, and when I relapse I try to be the most healthy about it. Don't smite yourself like you are it will only end in more pain. You are applying your flawed logic, drunk on emotion, to analyze more emotions, just to feel worse. It doesn't make sense. Just spend that time praying that you want the Holy Spirit to puppet you.

God and Jesus love you, but do not be a little b—-. All throughout the Bible we read the word of bravery, honesty and faith in Father and Jesus. Just ornament yourself as a noble lord, and wear that armour everyday. The demons will come. But the loving version of you, the one who trust fully on our Lord Jesus, will learn to quelch and kill these demons, until they go away. You have to cultivate purity of mind, it doesn't come out of nothing. Your miPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>836487

OP again, I know I am not the worst, logically. In truth though, maybe there is something to it. My struggle with lust is extremely pathetic, I give in for no reason at all. Everyone struggles with lustful thoughts; but not everyone this existentially I suppose. It's the nature and extremeness of my sins that weigh so heavily on me. Not heavily enough to do anything about it though, apparently. Of course, I know what I've to do. But I reason from there, I still loathe it all from that perspective of knowing what to do. Like, there's NO way whatsoever a human can live with this. I know everyone struggles with lust, but I find myself, forgive me, looking for people and figures who share my deviations to hold on to some hope that at least someone with as winnie the pooh'd a brain as I gave myself can at least function normally. I'm sorry, brother, I sound desperate, but…. nothing, I just am, none of this should have been

>>836421

Listen man, you've got to accept that you're an addict and that you need help. Go see a specialist, he can prescribe drugs that help. This is a serious issue, so don't take it lightly. Then you need to give yourself a huge slap in the face and stop watching porn. Break your hecking screen if you have to. You say that you've been struggling for a long time, but what have you tried exactly? Have you changed anything in your life, your habits, to try to improve your situation? Because if you haven't you deserve everything you get. You don't stop watching porn by just doing everything else just as usual. Your whole life must be reevaluated. It's not about willpower. I'm sorry, but if you're this much of a porn addict it doesn't mean that you've been given bad cards, it just means that you're a piece of sh*t. I know this because I've been there. I managed to stop watching porn only when I stopped being a piece of sh*t. Before that, it's not possible. Anons are gonna seethe reading this but idgaf. You can pray all you want, God won't help you if you don't help yourself. You don't even have to do anything crazy. Go to the gym with max discipline, do whatever you have to to meet new people, make new friends, change your job, take up new hobbies, read more. These are not difficult things to do. If you haven't done a couple of these you're not even trying.

You can do it man.

Just get off the Internet lmao.

Although this anon >>842725 writes like an idiot, he gives good advice, other than seeing a shrink and taking (((drugs))).

>>842712

>If it's arbitrary why define tiggers and humans to be part of the species, and not the other way around?

Because they fall under the standard definition of species, you idiot.

The problem come when some corner cases of interspecies vigour, and most of all, how do you define taxonomy INSIDE the species.

>What defines a human therefore must be virtue, morality and faith in God, all of which endow the human with the ability to create civilization.

And given they got canonized, your standard is fulfilled.

>tiggers are the only "humans" who never created civilization in 6.000 years of history, how is that possible, that someone made in the image of the Creator is so incapable of creation?

Ethiopia, mate, just for a christian civ.

Also Makuria and co.

>No tigger is a saint of mine.

Then take down that flag, mate, you're a heretic.

Why did the boomers decide to go full satanic and destroy White tradition and Christianity?

>>838567

>>838664

>>838560

the mark of Cain protected him. so by that logic black and brown ppl should be protected due to their skin

genesis 4:13-16 Cain said to the Lord, “My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”

15 But the Lord said to him, “Not so[e]; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the Lord put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the Lord’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

>>842720

>So first the definition is arbitrary, and now it's not, lel.

No, you just have the reading comprehension of someone who licked lead paint all his childhood.

>If you put tiggers inside the humans species, they would be the least related to all the others.

And you haven't given any biological reason why they wouldn't fall under the same species(we aren't even some odd thing, like a ring species), and why it's subspecies, and not, say, cline or ecotype.

Remember when you cap your own post for evidence you need it without the (You). Wouldn't want to embarrass yourself like last time when the feds used it in court.

I actually got sissified into being straight. In the last few years I kept becoming more and more emotionally weak until masculine features scared me. Now I can easily get off to soft feminine features. Maybe this is why the sermon on the mount is important. Toughness actually makes you gay so the way to truly be straight is act like what society calls weak and faggoty. The Omegas are the Alphas. Now Jesus' comment about Him being the Alpha and Omega makes sense.

>>841564

God help you if you think masculinity equates to being buff or physically rough

>>842673

You have to be honest about this topic, the vast majority who have gone so far with pornography know that it can take you to very DARK places. Just like the anon, many of us have fallen in to see CP, this trick of Ha Satan has become increasingly common as well as the rise of the Traps and femboys in recent years (see the demon Baphomet). There is no better time than now to cling to the teachings of Yahshua Ha Mashiah, fast, pray and keep the scriptures always present, bear fruit and renounce the flesh day by day.

>>841430

My dear brother, considering everything you have done to stop being homosexual, I dare say that what you have are demonic entities / spirits that bind you to that way of thinking and feeling. I was there, praying, fasting, asking for help Yahshua Ha Mashiah, praying for my body to be filled with the Ruah Hakodesh (Holy Spirit), and thanks to another brother I realized that my problems needed divine liberation from demonic entities. You have an entity or spirits in charge of keeping you in that state. You need deliberation and you need to die to the flesh.

DANGERS

1. Formality. We are such weak creatures that any regularly returning duty is apt to degenerate into a lifeless form. The tendency of reading the Word by a fixed rule may, in some minds, be to create this skeleton religion. This is to be the peculiar sin of the last days—"Having the form of godliness, but denying the power thereof." Guard against this. Let the calendar perish rather than this rust eat up your souls.

2. Self-righteousness. Some, when they have devoted their set time to reading the Word, and accomplished their prescribed portion, may be tempted to look at themselves with self-complacency. Many, I am persuaded, are living without any Divine work on their soul—unpardoned, and unsanctified, and ready to perish — who spend their appointed times in secret and family devotion. This is going to hell with a lie in the right hand.

3. Careless reading. Few tremble at the Word of God. Few, in reading it, hear the voice of Jehovah, which is full of majesty. Some, by having so large a portion, may be tempted to weary of it, as Israel did of the daily manna, saying—, "Our soul loatheth this light bread;" and to read it in a slight and careless manner. This would be fearfully provoking to God. Take heed lest that word be true of you— "Ye said, also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the Lord of Hosts."

4. A yoke too heavy to bear. Some may engage in reading with alacrity for a time, and afterwards feel it a burden grievous to be borne. They may find conscience dragging them through the appointed task without any relish of the heavenly food. If this be the case with any, throw aside the fetter and feed at liberty in the sweet garden of God. My desire is not to cast a snare upon you, but to be a helper of your joy.

If there be so many dangers, why propose such a scheme at all? To this I answer, that the best things are accompanied with danger, as the fairest flowers are often gathered in the clefts of some dangerous precipice.

The Advantages.

1. The whole Bible will be read through in an orderly manner in the course of a year. The Old Testament once, the New Testament and Psalms twice. I fear many of you never read the whole Bible; and yet it is all equally divine. "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect." If we pass over some parts of Scripture, we shall be incomplete Christians.

2. Time will not be wasted in choosing what portions to read. Often believers are at a loss to determine towards which part of the mountains of spices they should bend their steps. Here the question will be solved at once in a very simple manner.

3. Parents will have a regular subject upon which to examine their children and servants. It is much to be desired that family worship were made more instructive than it generally is. The mere reading of the chapter is often too like water split on the ground. Let it be read by every member of the family beforehand, and then the meaning and application drawn out by simple question and answer. The calendar will be helpful in this. Friends, also, when they meet, will have a subject for profitable conversation in the portions read that day. The meaning of difficult passages may be inquired from the more judicious and ripe Christians, and the fragrance of simpler Scriptures spread abroad.

4. The pastor will know in what part of the pasture the flock are feeding. He will thus be enabled to speak more suitably to them on the Sabbath; and both pastor and elders will be able to drop a word of light and comfort in visiting from house to house, which will be more readily responded to.

5. The sweet bond of Christian love and unity will be strengthened. We shall be often led to think of those dear brothers and sisters in the Lord, here and elsewhere, who agree to join with us in reading these portions. We shall oftener be led to agree on earth, touching something we shall ask of God. We shall pray over the same promises, mourn over the same confessions, praise God in the same songs, and be nourished by the same wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Instructions for the Family:

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2. The head of the family should previously read over the chapter for family worship, and mark two or three of the most prominent verses, upon which he may dwell, asking a few simple questions.

3. Frequently the chapter named in the calendar for family reading might be read more suitably in secret; in which case the head of the family should intimate that it be read in private, and the chapter for secret reading may be used in the family.

4. The metrical version of the Psalms should be read or sung through at least once in the year…If three verses be sung at each diet of family worship, the whole Psalms will be sung through in the year.

5. Let the conversation at family meals often turn upon the chapter read and the psalm sung. Thus every meal will be a Sacrament, being sanctified by the Word and prayer.

6. Let our secret reading prevent the dawning of the day. Let God's voice be the first we hear in the morning. Mark two or three of the richest verses, and pray over every line and word of them. Let the marks be neatly done, never so as to abuse a copy of the Bible.

7. In meeting believers on the street or elsewhere, when an easy opportunity offers, recur to the chapters read that morning. This will be a blessed exchange for those idle words which waste the soul and grieve the Holy Spirit of God. In writing letters to those at a distance, make use of the provision that day gathered.

8. Above all, use the Word as a lamp to your feet and a light to your path—your guide in perplexity—your armor in temptation—your food in times of faintness. Hear the constant cry of the great Intercessor,

"SANCTIFY THEM THROUGH THY TRUTH: THY WORD IS TRUTH."

>>842637

It depends on what your depression and anxiety are telling you that is making you so scrupulous. IIf you're doubting your own contrition, then know that all that is required is for you to have a desire to change your ways and follow God. It's not a bad thing if you don't know how to do this or doubt your ability to, your desire and commitment are sufficient.

If it's doubt in God's mercy, understanding that he wants to forgive you more than you want to be forgiven.

>As soon as I slip I fall into despair feeling that I am completely separated from God

If you mean mortally, then I can understand but remember that God does not give up on us or withdraw his graces if we repent of it while we make arrangements to go to confession when we can. Prayer itself is a response to God's call to us.

Until very recently I used to be like you, anon, and would give up and fall into despair when I failed and couldn't determine if something was a venial sin or mortal sin. But understand that there are two kinds of unprofitable sinners: Those who are too scrupulous and those who aren't scrupulous enough. It is better to be too scrupulous, but remember that actions and thoughts have to be entertained before they are considered mortal. To entertain means we do not push them away but we give ample time to imagine them instead of trying to push them out. I suffer with lust primarily so I have made it a habit to turn my attention to some kind of object that I can see and fixate on it when impure thoughts come into my mind.

Also remember that sins you have forgotten are forgiven. You're only in trouble if you willingly withold a sin.

>>842656

>God does not give up on us or withdraw his graces if we repent of it while we make arrangements to go to confession when we can

So dying in a state of mortal sin while having a resolution to go to confession means I'm not doomed?

Happy Feast of the Transfiguration!

>>842688

The catechism says thus (1451-1453):

<Among the penitent's acts contrition occupies first place. Contrition is "sorrow of the soul and detestation for the sin committed, together with the resolution not to sin again."

<When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called "perfect" (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.

<The contrition called "imperfect" (or "attrition") is also a gift of God, a prompting of the Holy Spirit. It is born of the consideration of sin's ugliness or the fear of eternal damnation and the other penalties threatening the sinner (contrition of fear). Such a stirring of conscience can initiate an interior process which, under the prompting of grace, will be brought to completion by sacramental absolution. By itself however, imperfect contrition cannot obtain the forgiveness of grave sins, but it disposes one to obtain forgiveness in the sacrament of Penance.

So to put it simply, contrition (repentance) is a desire to not sin again. This can either be imperfect (afraid of hell and the ugliness of sin) or perfect (sorry for offending God). Perfect contrition obtains forgiveness if you intend to go to confession when as soon as you can, whereas imperfect contrition is only sufficient to obtain forgiveness via confession. That being said, the key is to truly be sorry for offending God. The act of contrition we say during confession says as much

<My God, I am heartily sorry for having offended thee

<Most of all because my sins offend thee who I should love above all things

Christ instituted the sacraments, including confession, but He is not confined to them. Whereas confession is the ordinary means of forgiving sins, if you happen to die in a car crash while truly being sorry for your sins and intending to go to confession as soon as you are able, you can be forgiven.

>>834664

Look into the no fap forum without a title (picture of marry). I explained where attractions such as these may come from.

>>834705

I always figured there was something wrong with men who like staring at half-naked men. I always wanted to be Ed/Lelouch/Light not Goku/Jojo. I actually did get to live that dream for a while by using persuasion techniques I studied to turn a whole forum right wing and Christian or at least pro-Christian.

You are not attracted, you are addicted. When I fell into a hole with porn I was watching everything. Possibly even things you could not image I was watching. I was never attracted to any of it. I was only brought to THINK I was attracted to those things. You MUST break through addicted to pornography and your consumption of media. These are the reason for attractions such as what you have. You are not attracted, you are addicted. Addicted to easy pleasure. God bless you anon, please stay strong.

>>834664

>>834664

You have just been visited by a demon in the Battle for the Spirit.

Press all the buttons necessary to pray away that demon.

What you are thinking is only the reflection of the culture which you delve in. All this anime, porn, slightly introduced you to this idea, which is not yours.This is not you. Be loving, have faith in Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and let them puppet you. You already know the answer. Go with Christ brother.

>>842589

>when our vegetarian ancestors

>monke

idk man I don't like where this video starts, but yeah personally this is kind of my first time fasting. I haven't eaten meat, but I ate dairy products and sometimes egg every day since the fast started. I'm focusing on defeating my sugar addiction rn and limiting my sugar intake, which is why I don't feel imminent guilt about failing with dairy products.

I promised myself I'll try to fast correctly though. I'm pretty fat and glutton tbh.

>>842590

Don't fret about it.

You'll do fine.

It doesn't, gluttony is as mortally sinful as any other sin. These "600lbs losers" live in the product of their sinful lifestyle of overeating.

>>842594

>These "600lbs losers" live in the product of their sinful lifestyle of overeating.

It shouldn’t even be possible to be 600lbs. I’m not sure if king Henry the 8th was that fat.

>>842638

Have you seen what a 600lb person looks like? If King Henry VIII was that fat or anywhere near that fat, it would've shown in the paintings. I think King Henry VIII was extremely fat for his time. Unfortunately, I think he'd blend in quite well in our modern era.

What am I seeing?

Surely we can trust claims of an extraordinary nature when they're made by 'young Koreans'.

based facebook post

Prelest

>>842625

And the KJV?

Imagine going before the judgement seat of Christ having said this

Do some Baptists seriously believe this? Wow.

>>842505

I have my reasons why I doubt, but I do find their argument of total depravity from Romans 1 & 2 and Corinthians compelling.

Predestination? Teaching from hell!

Paul introduced it. Luther enabled Paul. Calvin perfected it.

Paul says we're puppets without freewill and God designates people to hell as he wishes. Blasphemy! God is a righteous God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not allah! Paul's god is allah!

God gave us freewill. We choose to be evil or to be righteous as God is.

Paul says: Rom 9:19-21 One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?" But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God?

Stupid. If that was true, then God would be at fault. Why blame me for if it was bestowed upon me?

Paul contradicts Jesus. Paul is the son of perdition, the man of sin. Paul seeded islam by abrogating the 10 commandments and the spiritual Temple of God.

Read Chapter 2:

https://gofile.io/d/nmqbp2

>>842685

Does anyone take you seriously?

Also, Calvinism is wrong. The closest we'll be able to understand it as is molonism.

>>842686

Ad hominem is the response of failure.

Do you have any worthwhile response that would contribute to establish consensus on truth?

All i see is, every Christian is following man made doctrines, rather than Jesus. Read the document, it's only 14 pages long.

>>842685

Muslims hate Paul wtf are you talking about?

The author claims that Khadija is a Catholic Nun. The author supposes that Paul was the first muslim. The Author supposes that the pope used the Arabs to conquer Jerusalem from… someone. He claims it as if it were facts, and they sure ought to make sense to himself. However, he does not give up any points or evidence that backs this up, since that would be impossible to find.

The author erroneosly twists and misinterpretes scripture, which is a normal practice for the KJV-onlyists and has gone so far that he has become an apostate of the religion Christ gave him. OP, what is the point of posting trash such as this on this board, which is a Christian board?

>>842514

I don't know any KJV Onlyist who would disparage the Apostle Paul. They're usually Baptists. Very rude, but yet "Someone you can do business with", if you will. Their errors revolve around being so spartan. Not in adding weird/new ideas.

>>842514

>was the first muslim

>muhammad is the father of all muslim

LMAO WHAT I…

Nevermind

It never made sense.

>islam destroy the vatican

Maybe or maybe not.

Islam will be playing a role in the end times or the new world order does away with them and besides during these days it doesn't look like is holding out especially in the me like turkey or iran the gospel is already spreading all over the world before the end happens, thanks to the internet of course.

If not them then is the right or what ever abominotion is in front that will destroy the vatican or the vatican destroy its self.

>>842646

Your opinion v.s. Revelation 17

Note that the document interprets Rev 17. Islam is taking over in Europe. History is the evidence. Islam is not declining at all.

Paul paved the way for islam. He removed the 10 commandments and God's spiritual Temple, which both were given to Moses by God on mount Sinai. 600 years later islam then removed Jesus all together. Satan accomplished to deceive billions. That includes Christians. The broad way. Paul is absolutely contradicting Jesus.

Paul truly seeded islam.

Why do you think Christian Byzantine is now 100% islamic? Why do you think Europe is being islamized? Because what is not planted by the Father, must be cut off.

Christians must realize, that they follow a man to the pit. They must hear the King of kings only.