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I think he has slipped up and should've said "islam" and "muslims".

Instead of "Christians" and some denominations.

This guy talking at 1 minute about how "baptism is all about a symbolic ritual murder of the non jewish, of the gentile, to murder the gentile child, this was about to replace the "pagan" soul".

So, just to let you know, baptism is a ritual where you are being buried with Jesus Christ, when being submerged, and subsequently rising out of death, in Jesus Christ.

So death is a ritual symbol of baptism, murder however it is not. The death of the old man, the sinful man, the one who is dead.

Secondly, baptism is extracted from a cleansing ritual, not a murder ritual of the non-jew, i would not deny that there are insane people who have turned it into a murder ritual, for this makes sense looking at the state of this sin ridden world. We can read about other insane things the Israelites did when they left God and worshipped other false gods.

Sacrificing babies is one of them, the regular understanding would be they did this through the fire of molech.

I have no knowledge on people using water to "murder" someone.

Baptism existed before the conceptualization of the word "pagan".

So, it could not be about the replacement of the pagan soul.

However we do know as fallen humans we live in a state of death and corruption.

Accepting Jesus Christ as ones Lord and Savior results in the Holy Spirit dwelling within you.

It seems to me, you previously had only a body and a soul then, yet lacked a spirit, if anything does get destroyed however it can only be the spirit of the anti-christ.

And just listening to 2 mins of this guy blabbering and his incessant hatred towards Christianity he emanates, makes me understand why he is clearly unhappy with people loosing the anti-christ spirit, so ofcourse he has to speak out against it.

If he does not repent he will end up in hell and all i know is that people do not like to end up in hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

"I have no knowledge on people using water to "murder" someone. " in the ritualistic way this guy is presenting as an argument.

"people do not like to end up in hell" alone.

A human being born intersex is rare, even if this would happen there will be appropriate measures taken that do not diminish the child his or her life.

The likelihood this child will eventually be unable to have his or her own children is tough enough to deal with.

In the rest of the cases, you are not the victim here, please be careful with treating the child "different" because they are different.

They are still human beings.

Matthew 19:12

Isaiah 56:3-5

(Jesus is our Sabbath)

John 3:16-17

If anyone ever pulls up Deuteronomy 23:1 to you, you can tell them to bugger off, Jesus entered the Holy assembly of the Lord, and if we are in Jesus Christ, then we are also in the Father.

Jesus covers us, so also those who are intersex.

We shall all receive new bodies without corruption, unaffected by sin, in our resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:42-45

The previous arguments were made with the expectation that those subjects are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

Dear writer of the post.

First of, thanks for posting your question here.

I will dissect your post;

1. Relationship problem, a messy house.

2. Relationship problem, a forgetful boyfriend.

3. Personal observation, you are unable to keep up with what you expect should be happening.

4. You don't pay rent but you do pay groceries and others odds and ends.

5. The problem of not being able to keep the house in order, is giving you anxiety, which turns in a negative spiral.

6. You do not want to ask him for help.

Your question is; "What should i do?"

I am missing a few bits and pieces, i can only comment on the information you have given, my apologies if i come across a bit harsh, i will clearly present it when i am assuming things.

4. In regards to money.

You are together in a relationship, as you write your post on this group i assume you want to engage it from a Christian perspective.

As such; Money can not be used as an excuse here. You are together, scripturally speaking you have both become "one flesh", i assume you have "song of solomon" moments together, as such it is not your money, it is both yours, and it is not his money, it is both yours.

Keep in mind, i do believe the man should be the head of the household, in regards to submission to decisions and disputes unless they are resulting in real abuse.

3 and 5

I am not sure in what kind of household you are living, i am currently living on my own, and i make a mess, (dishes and clothes) however i am able to clean this mess in less then a few hours if i really want to.

You present us with the following, how your part time job is turning you into a mess mentally and physically due to the odd hours you have to work.

I assume you can not change your job and work more stable hours, if you can you would've probably already tried.

First off, lower you expectations maybe?

I do not know how much of a mess is a mess in your house, someone with OCD could not deal with cloths piling up, whilst someone else wouldn't feel there is anything wrong even though it looks like a bomb has exploded in the house.

For now, work on lowering expectations, this is likely going to help you in the right way, you mention that you like cleaning, so do not destroy this by overburdening yourself.

However, to overburden oneself is also relative.

You claim to not have any downtime, maybe you could do some ironing while watching a bible course or listening to a bible podcast, combining both into downtime?

Talk with your boyfriend.

Ask him about what he thinks of the state of yours both home, and that you would like to create a more tidy space.

Buy boxes and label them.

Dirty clothes, put them in these boxes, dirty kitchenware, place it in this box/dishrack, clean socks and underwear, place them in those boxes, videogame cardridges, dvds, or w/e place those in those boxes.

How many clothes do either of you wear?

I change my underwear and t-shirts daily, however sweaters and jeans, definitely not so much, you can both work on folding up used however still clean clothes and putting them in their respective places.

Turn dishwashing into a family event, one washes, the other dries.

Wipe down the shower/bath after you finished, leave some toilet paper on the bottom of your toilet before you do nr. 2, dust the shelves every other week instead of every day, turn other house chores into moment of meditation on God's word, or, again, whilst listening to something that is good for your spiritual health.

6.

This is not fair to him and yourself, you don't have to "ask him", however you can tell him how you really feel without getting angry if possible, which i don't assume you will, however because you kept this in for so long, the moment you do open up, he could be confused and even hate himself for not noticing, communication is key, please do not let emotions rule these moments.

This is not about money, this is about perception, expectations and capabilities. Maybe write down some pointers before you begin so you can hold on to this as a net.

If you want to bring order in the home, you have to work together to do these things together, a lot of things can be solved before they become a problem.

Again, boxes and labels will probably help you, don't go overboard on these though.

Also, positive reinforcement, if you talked about something and your boyfriend forgets, ask him nicely and when he does it, give him a quick kiss or w/e for it.

If he does something on his own, let him know without being corny, that you appreciate it, i.e. a quick peck on the cheek or a cuddle.

You both need to grow to a more stable household, getting angry after you both have spoken about it Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

1 and 2

1 could be solved, 2, i do not know how or why he is forgetful, i also do not know how forgetful he is, post its will help here, on the fridge, on the computer screen, keyboard, entrance, and when you make him a lunchbox, put on in there to tell him how much you love him.

Also, there is this thing called "google effect", look for it on the web and step away from the search engines from now on but train yourself to remember.

I would like to repeat,

Please do not see the mess in your house as the cause of your state of mind, your expectations are, these expectations could be because of how you were raised, maybe you have some kind of OCD, or maybe because it is truly a trashdump (i still do not understand how people are capable of creating that much of a mess though), the messy house is not the reason why you "close off and end up crying", your expectations and desires are.

It does not mean those expectations and desires are unreasonable, ofcourse not, they could very well be very reasonable, to have a clean house helps against getting infections, diseases and parasites, however just a messy house will not result in these things.

If you can (drastically?) lower the expectations maybe you can start enjoying the cleaning again and combine them with things that could help your spiritual health through listening.

And again, talk with your boyfriend, not to tell him "to clean up after himself", because he never learned in both yours household to do this, so why are you dumping this on him now? Just tell him your state of mind and physique and that you would like to have a change of pace in regards to the household for your personal sanity, you love him very much, however you also have a limited amount of energy to spend so you would like to find suitable solutions, to make a home worthy of both of yours.

If this guy moves mountains for you, he will probably gladly help you out buying boxes and labels, and even if he forgets some things you clearly agreed upon later on, do not get angry, the devil is tempting you to destroy something nice that is building.

I have said all this based on the information i Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>856017

Verse 14 is about physical light, as modern people understand the word "light". The creation of the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars. Verse 1 is about establishing Time. Or more to the point, it's about Order. God destroying the Chaos (the Deep) and first establishing a sense of Order. It's not a story about any Big Bang. It's more about subverting a well known story in Mesopotamia of Tiamat (the chaos dragon of the seas), who warred with the god Marduk, who split her in two and divided heaven from earth from the pieces of her body (see the parallels yet?). Except in Genesis' case, it's subverting this story. It has only one God, who doesn't need to go to war with anyone, and has no challenger. Chaos is impersonal, and destroys it simply by speaking (while later on in Genesis, any "sea monsters" are just designated as another of his lowly creations. Not some primordial rival). This would have been audacious, and maybe appealing, to outsiders to hear of only ONE God, who was all powerful and could destroy chaos in a mere instant. That's the bigger truth the writer is getting at with Genesis 1:1. Completely trashing Tiamat and Marduk in one little verse. Nothing about science.

>>856111

In Biblical cosmology, the order of events would be that Genesis 1:1-3 literally happens, and as a result of Lucifer's rebellion, he later causes the fall in chapter 3 of Genesis. Then, in the era of the Sumerians of Uruk, the Adversary creates the myth of Tiamat and Marduk among many others to subvert the truth by adding a few details here and there that are untrue. Finally, we have God preserving the true account of what happened throughout all of this through His Word, through ultimately the framework of what would end up being our book of Genesis.

>>856113

That's fair. You could look at it that way too. Either way, the true God gets all the glory, and it annoyed polytheists. And that's it main target. It's not about our modern notions of science, but a dismissal of polytheism known in the world.

I would say further that the whole chapter is subversive. Temple dedications (even outside Israel) lasted for seven days, where on the last day, the "god" rests in the temple. Solomon himself does this too when he builds the first Temple, as indicated in seven day dedication in Chronicles. In Genesis, it's a song of dedication for the true temple in heaven.

Other elements would have annoyed polytheists too. God creates plants and herbs before he ever creates the Sun. Pagans (and even people today) were enamored with the power of the Sun and of Fertility, and had gods dedicated to those domains. But here in Genesis, God doesn't need any of it. Plants grow because of his Word. There's no sun at all. The Sun is an after thought merely to automate what his word already began.

The creation of Man at the end is the most subversive to the Sumerian/Babylonian worldview. In their scheme, the gods created the garden for themselves, and for man to be a slave who worked for the gods. But in Genesis, the garden is created for Man and out of love. Not out of slavery.

They got us as kids man! They got us as kids, not the church, but the wolves! They pulled the fraud out in the open, since they've put the screen in front of our eyes! https://odysee.com/SpeakingTheTruthinalltheRealm:8

It's already banned by Public Broadcasting Service!

"In the beginning"

Time.

"God created the heavens"

space

"and the earth."

matter.

"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."

Light is light, not time, in order for light to travel, it needs time, as photons travel at a fixed speed through space.

I would like to point you to the following;

Video game development.

In a history long ago i made maps for UT2k4, an online shooter.

Every time i would load a new file, clean and empty, i would start with a blank space. Within this space i could create all kinds of objects.

However if i would load the map for testing, everything would be pitch black, if i forgot something very specific.

Why?

Because i did not add any "sources" of light to be generated within the map once it is loaded.

This is probably not purely aligning with the genesis 1:1-3 passages, however i do not think it is far from it either.

The light that God created in this context i am presenting was merely not fixed to celestial objects.

It does not really make sense to create plants on day 3 without light to nourish them.

In other words, i find it more reasonable that light was confined to terrestrial objects on day 4 (the celestial clock made for signs and seasons), then that light "actually means time", if there are very distinct words to be used if you want to describe either.

yes

You know, this is a "Christian" group, so as long as you can not prove Jesus teaches us to kill others, i can only ask you;

Where does Jesus order us to kill?

I recommend starting here:

-Christogenea.org

-Truthvids.net

Happy to hear your so interested. This is that thing you’ve been searching for since you became a truther. There’s a lot to study in this. Have fun brother.

Praise Christ

Nah, it doesn't align with the curse Israel got after the rejection of Jesus Christ, it doesn't align with the prophecies either.

It does however align with the people, gentiles in this case, that would make Israel jealous.(Romans 11)

And jealousy is real bad, really really unhealthy. I rather have someone be angry or even wrathful with me, then jealous.

Now, does that mean you do not have a lineage to a Hebrew?

Conservative measures proclaim 1 in 20 people on this earth are of Hebrew decent, more liberal would place that number down to 1 in 7.

Does it matter in the end?

I do not believe it does, for both parties are going to need Jesus Christ for their salvation through His finished works.

Are you one of the 144.000, are you a virgin, unspoiled by this world?

No, ok.

And if you are a Hebrew, then you are accountable as a Hebrew, so far i understand is that you have been the first one that has been given a choice in the matter due to your knowledge on the subject, more closely then the gentile nations as you received the word of God directly through Moses, recorded in the Torah and have the prophets and psalms teach you about Him, Jesus Christ.

In the end, you need Jesus. Be careful that this research will not lead you to pride or brings you to a point where you think others to be lesser then yourself, they are not, you are all in need of salvation through Jesus His finished works, death and resurrection.

crying. its crying out, nobody to blame. s— happens. god figures out by it being the object that you use to sharpen your mind.

And I'm not saying anything about this board or any of the two people who use this board once a month. Just saying in general. Nominal Christian in the real world is bad on the 4chan-cricle it's even worse.

You join the Catholic church.