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>>857168 (OP)

these are good questions anon,

when we speak about Gods will being done on earth and satans rulership over the world as the god our society goes after, its important to consider in what way satan is actually the ruler of the world and what exactly are we meaning when we say world.

The power that satan has on this earth is a spiritual one not a physical one, satan cannot divert a river or cause a tornado, he cant even lift a stone, his power is worked through the hearts of sinful man. Satan works his power through the hearts of man but not through nature, this is why satan has to ask for Gods permission before striking Job down with disease, he doesn't have the authority to have power over nature (the physical world) God however DOES work his power through nature, many bible verses talk about God affecting nature Isaiah 50:2 for example, he causes storms and ends them, remember Jesus calming the storm with words "Quiet! Be still!". So even though satan is the god of this world we have to reckon to exactly what it means to be the god of this world and what the Lord means when he says satan is a "god" . First of all there are multiple uses for the words "this world" you could be talking about the physical rock we are on, you could be talking about the universe or you could be talking about simply all of humanity, this range of meaning of the word "world" becomes obvious if you realise the translation of that word from the biblical greek is "Kosmos". So when the Lord says satan is god over this world he is talking about the hearts of humanity and their civilisation and not the physical world. Now onto the meaning of satan being a "god" we know that there are many gods in this world, even athiests dont say in presupposition "false god" when talking about the gods of greece and egypt and same with the bible because they truly are the gods of egypt and greece, just the same satan truly is the god of this world but just how Ra and zeus are truly the gods of egypt and greece yet are unable to affect even the smallest of physical phenomona so too is satan the true god of the "world" even though he cant affect it.

OP here again.

Thank you everybody who took the time to answer, I truly appriciate it.

On the question about His will be done on the earth.

All comes from God.

He made, and is higher than, all.

Satan is not higher than Jesus Christ.

Satan is the god of _this_ world.

"_this_ world" is not speaking of the earth, but Satan's system that is upon it, the same as bread was not speaking of dough, but Gods kingdom within us.

Gods will comes in light. God is perfect, and His kingdom is within you. His name is holy.

But for Satan,…

The wicked aren't even willed to anything unless God rains on them lol.

They'd be pagans out in the wilderness, carving idols and making strife with trees, if they weren't rained on.

The demons have to hope that the unclean are rained on by God, for in the day of the wicked this is how they even have a house to begin their evil deeds. The unclean house demons within their body.

Compare this to the Lord, who can walk on water the same as not knowing you're naked (like a video game maker using noclip on a map editor :D ), who can just say to the sea "give me a path," and it be granted to Him, parted. He can do all. His very will was to make the earth, and all above and below it.

And He willed that <3

And his spirit, went across it.

Satan being the god of this world is greatly nothing like Jesus Christ being Lord. It's just to say that something was given to Satan.

To help you understand, when all of the earth was flooded, the earth was still here, but _this_ world was not, because that which Satan pries on was nowhere.

>is the implication that he can lead us to temptation?

He can do all.

He made the earth.

Some reminders:

He can make you understand all languages without knowing them (pentacost)

He can walk on water

He can part the sea

He can turn water in to wine, and bread in to fish

He can heal you

He knows what's on your heart before you even begin to put a word to your mouth

He can lead His only begotton son, Him!, to be given for death on the cross.

Think about this. You're leading someone that is PERFECT,… to death.

Your power is so great, you can lead perfection to death.

And just something I thought sounded cool was that he made the earth just by saying things.

Like if I stood in my kitchen and said "let there be Mac and cheese" oh boy yes please.

Like imagine you just say "let there be a Lambo outside" and it is granted to you.

Pretty neat. Brb car sound outsi-

>bread

A fitting thing to remember here is His word.

"I give you all".

By His power and perfection, I believe in His prayer that it can give us all versions of what a word can mean, just as he gave us knowing of them…and reminders for things.

Pray to Him in knowledge of His wisdom, that when you say "daily bread" in prayer, His might may be to work within you, in His kingdom, overflowing you with His holy spirit, and, to fill you with food :)

I wonder why OP thinks it's important for him to know who the true Christians are?

Is Op our judge? No.

God is our Judge, and God knows his people from the devil's.

>>857189

I'm afraid God disagrees with you.

Have you heard the idiom "a wolf in sheep's clothing"?

Did God tell you "'Don't judge people' means you should be a blind fool", or "I'll tell you every time I see a wolf in sheep's clothing"?

If everyone can claim that they are Christians, then Christianity is nothing. Have you heard the term excommunication? Or does this Christian board mostly cater for the expelled?

>>857078 (OP)

"Christian" is the one who is like the Christ.

Being like the Christ means that he can apply the Law in the right way, or does walk through the teachings of the OT, applied with a wisdom that comes from the Gods authority.

God made men as his image and likeness, and the Christ was the perfect man, but remember that God didn't gave the Law to Adam.

The ones that follow the path of perfection are the so called "Christians", the Law (Pentateuch) is a good reference for this path, but is a limited reference, the complete one comes from the Holy Ghost inspiration.

Thank you annon.

>>857194

>The ones that follow the path of perfection are the so called "Christians", the Law (Pentateuch) is a good reference for this path, but is a limited reference, the complete one comes from the Holy Ghost inspiration

It's clear what Pentateuch is. But what is the inspiration of God? Could you please tell more?

So Anglicans are just trying to figure out why they exist since their sect was founded by the horny instead of by any theological reasons.They're constantly trying to distinguish themselves from both protestantism and traditional Christianity (especially Catholicism), so different theological movements have been encouraged and suppressed to attain that. In practice it just ends up being general high-church Protestantism but without a point. You see a lot of homos that think the Catholic church is too mean end up there, some people with mostly traditional Christian beliefs that just reject the pope too (too retarded to look to Orthodoxy). Sometimes it looks like so called 'old / independent catholicism'. You might see some high-church inclined protestants that don't like Lutheran or Calvinist particulars. If the only protestant conviction a man has is sola scriptora, and they aren't even too radical about that, they might end up here. They are probably the most interesting protestants to me because they often claim to adhere to apostolic tradition and hold apostolic succession (really the things that separate protestants from the rest), but it is held as an auxiliary source of authority with scripture really being primary for Anglicans. Also, i don't think any traditional Christian church recognizes their line of succession. You have a range from fairly low-church and homo-loving, women-'ordaining' Anglicans to the anglo-catholics, some of which have even looked for union with rome in recent decades. Some of them have attained it. There is the 'personal ordinariates' in the Catholic Church. Basically very large dioceses that consist of anglican converts and hold certain anglican pratices, included a third anclican use form of the latin rite mass. Anglo-catholicism is part of the 'continuing anglican' movement. These are those more 'conservative' Anglicans that find themselves removed from communion with the archbishop of Canterbury.

>>857106 (OP)

What I do know is the bcp is great to use for daily devotion. So I thank their tradition for that. C.S Lewis was an Anglican, and his apologetics are great.

>>857106 (OP)

Anglcanism is going extinct lmao cope

The UK is 72% Atheist. Such a degenerate country. winnie the pooh the UK.

Anglican Church was founded by a man who wanted to divorce his wives so he could have a legitimate heir, and the Church said no.

So, he split from the church, stole church property, looted Church coffers, and allowed his soldiers to rape and murder nuns and priests.

It was born in the desire for mortal sin, and was bathed in the blood of martyrs.

Now the head of the Church is claiming she's some sort of Moslem Leader as well.

>>857131 (OP)

Same thing happened to me in one church I went to. Went to a Bible study group and had some good discussions then the sermon ended up being some weird storytime without any scripture or direction really.

I asked a friend from the Church afterwards why it was like that and they thought it was to attract more new members by not getting too deep into doctrine and focusing on the message . That made sense to me since I have left a church before for preaching doctrines I didn't agree with.(dispensationalism to an extent of essentially saying Jews didn't need Christ since they are chosen and if you didn't support the nation of Israel you weren't a true Christian)

I disagree with the practice of keeping your beliefs vague to get more members but it seems the most likely explanation.

Never seen that happen. Every mass every day has several Biblical references in the missal.

>>857071 (OP)

Bump for relevance

Thanks for the tip

bump and thanks

>>856001 (OP)

>So the Vikings were the ethnically mixed "globalist" elite

I wouldn't even give them that title. They were little more than glorified bandits who got their butts kicked whenever they came face to face with people who could fight back.

Hi, please refrain from posting anti-white gaslighting propaganda and pretending it's anti-pagan.

I am reading a book about the Saxons right now and they not only had the death penalty for marrying outsiders but even for marrying someone of a different class.

Of course seafarers would intermingle with other peoples but it has nothing to do with new research.

>>856203

>reading a book about the Saxons right now and they not only had the death penalty for marrying outsiders but even for marrying someone of a different class.

Ah yes, Christians should definitely model ourselves, our beliefs, and our culture after saxon pagans.

>>856002

Source?

>>856203

>I am reading a book about the Saxons right now and they not only had the death penalty for marrying outsiders but even for marrying someone of a different class.

Title and author of the book?

https://youtu.be/FUXGB5FzhPc

>>851132 (OP)

Good people abide by good government, bad people do not. Bad people abide by bad government, good people do not.

I tell you God is the ultimate government, and no man can serve two governments.

>>857099

>its another schizo using revelations to justify his politics

Revelations 22:18-29

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Matthew 24:23

At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is!’ do not believe it.

>>856325 (OP)

It's always a little odd how much they love the symbols and motifs of the Church, but little of that is reflected in Japanese life.

The only person I can think of that's associated with anime who is probably a little more sincere about it is Yoko Kanno. She's a prolific composer for a lot of anime. She had Catholic parents and first developed her music training in church. I don't know if she's exactly religious herself, but you can hear the influence in masterpieces like the GitS theme:

>>856329

Also to add to the cool factor, Origa the singer was Russian and Orthodox. The lyrics are a mix of Russian, Latin, and English.

I think that for most of them Christian religions are just another mythology, like Greek or Egyptian. They don't use it for any kind of deep theological meaning, even when the symbolism is accurate it's just world-building for them rather than any kind of theological relevancy.

>Cuckime of the Godless slanties