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82d8d4 No.856690

Why don't they dig up the pig remains in Galilee. Surly there's some evidence of hundreds or thousands of pigs drowning in a lake all at once. I understand Galilee is a big lake, but I've never even heard of an attempt. It's the only miracle Jesus performed which you could ever find physical evidence for today. The pigs would be all on top of each other near the shore line pushing the bottom pigs down into the soil, alive. Which is exactly how you get underwater fossilisation.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3368652/Is-Jesus-performed-Miracle-Swine-1-600-year-old-Hebrew-slab-points-site-Kursi-Christ-exorcised-man-possessed-demons.html

This is as much as I've seen. And it is in the right region of the lake "Gerasenes" where the new testament says it happened. And it talks about how there's a cave and mountain in the area which are also in the bible. Unfortunately of course we know the shore line as with any lake has changed drastically. They dig up buildings under the water.

All I want is a "we looked… we dug, but didn't find anything." But I'm not even seeing that, it's like the idea isn't even crossing the mind. Suck up the entire lake, I don't care about the fish or the fisherman, give me a team of 20 good men and we'll dig up the entire bottom.

I might be just possessed by the idea, but I feel like this would be the most important thing anyone in history could dig up. So I'm surprised it's not a bigger manhunt. Something to think about if you're ever in the Galilee area. I mentioned this on /his/ but I didn't get any reason as to why it wouldn't be possible to find them.

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82d8d4 No.856691

shoot, it just came to me now unfortunately. The reality is, dead pigs float. They wouldn't sink under the sediment. the bones would be picked and designate above the soil. I'll keep the thread here, but yes there's the answer. I knew there had to be a reason no one was looking.

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f348a1 No.856692

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>>856691

People go looking for things like Noah's ark. The results of this will always be inconclusive in the world's eyes. The fact is the thing God put forward to believe on is His word. If unbelievers don't believe that, then like it says neither will they believe even if one rose from the dead. (Luke 16:31, John 5:47).

>31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Peter said that compared to the voice that came from heaven, we (Christians with the Bible) have a "more sure word of prophecy" compared to that. It is the word of God. See 2 Peter 1:18-19 (KJV).

>18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

>19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

>20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

>21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

It also says this in the Bible:

Luke 9:26

>For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

1 John 5:9-10

>If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

>He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

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82d8d4 No.856693

>>856692

Yeah, there might never be anything really solid to prove Jesus' story enough to make it plainly evident.

Everything is slightly out of reach like Josephus' writings. And it does feel intentionally designed to be that way. Because like Ghandi said, the five senses often are misleading and so God must prove his existence in a way stronger than the five senses can prove use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SakitCoNYc

I want to help people accept Jesus by providing evidence but I'm not sure how often when I correct someone's historical knowledge if it ever helps. And it's hard to get people to just audio book listen to one Gospel which is I think the best way.

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9977e0 No.856694

If remains of 2000 year old pigs were still around the earth would be filled with carcasses.

Bodies need special conditions to be preserved for a long time.

Most bodies turn to dust in time.

In humid conditions, bones might break down in a matter of a decade or so.

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82d8d4 No.856695

>>856694

I explain in the post how underwater preservation happens for land animals like with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbcMY6ADdi8

Something needs to be buried alive under the sea bed. But the more I think about it it's unlikely for the pigs to have pushed some of the others into the soil, they would have floated along the water all across the lake and then the bones would sink to the bottom.

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f20f06 No.856697

Ok so there are two main points to why this search would be ultimately fruitless.

Firstly, yes you have described the basics of the process for fossilization, but you're assuming that all the pigs were drowned and covered entirely under stilt and sediment very quickly. Most likely the pigs would have settled at the bottom of the lake for a short time before aquatic creatures began devouring and scattering their remains, not to mention any possible currents or undertows in the lake itself.

And secondly, this would honestly be one of the weaker pieces of evidence to support Creationism. Most people would either glance over the reportings of it, or simply say "Oh look, they happened to find a binch of pigs in this place, that could be anything." Those who don't want to believe will find any excuse not to. We've already found that genetic material can't be added to via natural processes, we've found carbon-14 in "billion-year-old" diamond, and we've found more fossils than should ever be possible without a global flood.

Proving the existence of God and the truth of The Bible isn't the issue, you can know all these things without truly accepting and believing them. Only God can open the eyes of the soul and save the unbeliever.

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c33b3a No.856706

>>856697

>you're assuming that all the pigs were drowned and covered entirely under stilt and sediment very quickly

No I wasn't. But now I'm on to something very suspicious Google Maps is doing with Noah's Ark.

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