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Welcome! This is a board for Christian discussion. Please read the rules linked above before posting.

>Consider using tor browser

>If you are interested in being a volunteer, please email christchannel@pm.me

>If your Christian church isn't represented in the flags and you would like one, tell me the name and post the appropriate emblem ITT

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Read Jordan Peterson watched his Bible lectures now i want to be Christian again.

Grew up Catholic so went to catholic church. Get creepy vibes from the church. People unwelcoming and short uninspired sermon from a priest who doesn't speak English well.

Go to an episcopal church. People are friendly. Good sermon. Cool vibes. Turns out they support trans rights and BLM. Sad.

Not sure what to do now.

In the meantime does anyone have good bible study resources that aren't postmodernist or overly preachy?

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Reminder that racism in any form is incompatible with Christianity.

Pic related was done in a Catholic church. The Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches have always accepted and continue to accept interracial marriage, as do traditional Protestant churches including the Baptists and LCMS and many others. There is literally nothing wrong with race mixing. Racial supremacy in any form is sinful and against historic Christian doctrine. You cannot be a racist and be a genuine Christian. If you are, please leave this board and go back to /pol/. Your racial ideologies are not welcome in Christianity.

>The Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of the United States of America

>Response to Racist Violence in Charlottesville, VA Friday, August 18, 2017

>The Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of the United States of America stands with all people of good will in condemning the hateful violence and lamenting the loss of life that resulted from the shameful efforts to promote racial bigotry and white supremacist ideology in Charlottesville, Virginia.

>The Orthodox Church emphatically declares that it does not promote, protect or sanction participation in such reprehensible acts of hatred, racism, and discrimination, and proclaims that such beliefs and behaviors have no place in any community based in respect for the law and faith in a loving God.

>The essence of the Christian Gospel and the spirit of the Orthodox Tradition are entirely and self-evidently incompatible with ideologies that declare the superiority of any race over another. Our God shows no partiality or favoritism [Deuteronomy 10:17, Romans 2:11]. Our Lord Jesus Christ “broke down the dividing wall of hostility that had separated God from humans and humans from each other” [Ephesians 2:14]. In Christ Jesus, the Church proclaims, there can be “neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male or female, but all are one” [Galatians 3:28]. Furthermore, we call on one another “to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather to expose them [Ephesians 5:11]. And what is darkness if not hatred? “The one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness” [1 John 2:11]!

>Furthermore, in 1872, Hierarchs from around the world assembled in Constantinople and denounced all forms of xenophobia and chauvinism [phyletism]. They agreed that the promotion of racial or national supremacy and ethnic bias or dissension in the Church of Christ is to be censured as contrary to the sacred teachings of the Christian Gospel and the holy canons of the Church. It is formally condemned as heresy, the strongest category of false teaching.

>Finally, such actions as we have witnessed in recent days, by self-proclaimed white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and various racists and fascists, betray the core human values of love and solidarity. In this, we pray wholeheartedly for the families of those who lost their lives or suffered in these tragic events. In like manner, we cannot condone any form of revenge or retaliation by any group or individual. Therefore, we fervently appeal to every person of good will, and especially the leaders of our great nation, to consider and adopt ways of reconciling differences in order to rise above any and all discrimination in our history, our present, and our future.

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Baptist here

Can I get some sermons on suicide?

I've watched like three or four sermons on it was curious if you have any. No Catholic opinions please just Protestant sermond

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Abraham, Isaac and Jacob

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are said to be the ancestors of Muslims, Christians and Jews. But the only one of these three that claims to be genetic is the Jews, who say for someone to be a Jew the mother has to be a Jew. (which is another strange thing) The other two religions are full of converts, there is no genetic element at all. Even among Jews there are converts, and there is also the theory that the present-day Jews aren't genetically related to the Jews in the Bible but are descendants of the Khazar people which converted to Judaism. This guy says in passing that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are "forces of nature", so he seems to be implying that it isn't literal. The video doesn't even say Muslims, Christians and Jews, it talks about Islam, Christianity, Israel, Europe, Russia. What is the real meaning and where can I read about this?


But this is confusing because he says Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but then he says Ishmael. Looking it up it seems Isaac and Ishmael are sons of Abraham and Jacob is son of Isaac, so it makes no sense anyway.

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St. Constantine the Great

By this, conquer!

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What excuse do Protestants have for not turning the other cheek?

The jews are right that Christians don't turn the other cheek. However, in Catholicism it's not even a command because Sirach says to not turn the other cheek, making a physical interpretation of the sermon on the mount in contradiction with other parts of the Catholic Bible. Therefore, the sermon on the mount is only spiritual in Catholicism. So what about Protestants? They don't have Sirach yet they also don't turn the other cheek. What justification do they have. I'm not attacking Protestants. I'm just curious what their justification is.

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Promising COVID vaccine made using aborted feotal cells

>We're using tissues that were from foetuses that were aborted 40, 50, 60 years ago," Dr Lott said.

>"It doesn't require newly aborted foetuses."

>While living human cells can only divide around 50 times, those foetal cells have been genetically modified so they can divide an infinite number of times.

>"That's why we can use the cells that we harvested [decades ago] today," Dr Lott said.

>"They're not the actual original cells, they've been immortalised and then propagated over the decades."

>This means we'll never need to replace specimens used in development.


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The word dinosaur wasn’t made up until 1841. That’s just 150 years ago.

There’s all kinds of stories all over history of humans killing off “dragons.”

They found an old brick wall in Babylon that was built 2600 years ago, and on that brick wall there were dragons. How did they know about dragons in Babylon 2600 years ago?

Alexander the Great said his soldiers were scared by dragons when they conquered India. In 300 BC.

There is a Roman Mosaic showing two long-necked dragons fighting. How did they know about dragons during the times of the Romans, just two hundred years after Christ?

Saint George is famous for slaying a dragon almost two thousand years ago,

Beowulf killed Grendel the Dragon by pulling off one of its small front arms and the creature bled to death later. the T-Rex has pretty puny front arms, and if you could get close enough to one’s head to reach his arm, you could probably jerk it right off. And he would bleed to death.

Theres dragon stories from countries all over the world. Every country in the world just about has stories of “dragons.”

Ancient pottery across from South America to Asia sometimes has dinosaurs on it. How did they know about dinosaurs to put them on their pottery?

The Vikings built ships with dragon heads on them.

Marco Polo lived in China for 17 years. When he came back he reported that the emperor was raising dragons to pull his chariots in parades.

on the walls of the grand canyon, they find drawings of dinosaurs.The Indians hunted dinosaurs. There is a cave in Australia as well were aboriginal carvings of a person running from a dinosaur have been found.

If you go to Lima Peru to visit the ancient Icca stones, over 50,000 stones found since 1961, you will notice dinosaurs carved onto the stones.

Don't believe your evolutionary "science" teacher's lies. Common sense > labcoats.

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conjoined twin eschatology

how does bodily resurrection eschatology work with respect to conjoined twins? What if only one is a Christian?

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Do not fear the invisible convict-19, do not substitute your fear of our invisible God for it.

Masks is an Asian thing going back at least 4 decades. The freak Michael Jackson had it on a decade ago.

Do not go to church with masks on, it's disrespectful


By Jeff Yang

November 19, 2014 <<< see the date?

DARKIE loves you, God bless you

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Christians arrested in Moscow, Idaho for singing hymns

Members of Christ Church were arrested for a Psalm singing outside city hall


Doug Wilson (pastor, Presbyterian) has been very vocal in opposition to mask orders

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A Catholic with some balls, for once in the 21st century

Archbishop Viganò: Trump is ‘preparing to fight against the demonic forces of the deep state’

The following is a note the Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò sent to the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast, which was held today. The event organizers declined to read it aloud at the event, which this year took place online. LifeSiteNews publishes it in full below.


>September 23, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – With deep emotion I have learned that President Donald J. Trump will be taking part in the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast on 23 September.

>On this occasion, Attorney General William Barr will receive the NCPB’s Christifideles Laici Award (Christ’s Faithful Laity), named after the Apostolic Exhortation On the Laity by Pope John Paul II.

>I would like to make myself present on this memorable occasion, in which I participated with great enthusiasm as Apostolic Nuncio during the years of my mission in Washington, D.C. (2011-2016).

>I therefore join all the participants in this extraordinary celebration and all American Catholics, who see in President Donald Trump the greatest defender of the supreme values of Christian civilization: of life, from conception to natural death; of the natural family composed of one man and one woman and children; and of love for the homeland: One Nation under God! And, most importantly, he stands for defending the right to freely practice our Faith, thus allowing us more fully to honor God.

>The presidential elections in November represent an epochal challenge, a biblical challenge, the outcome of which will be decisive not only for the United States of America but for the whole world.

>It is necessary that all of you Catholics of America are well aware of the role that Providence has deigned to entrust to your President, and that you are aware of the extraordinary battle that He is preparing to fight against the demonic forces of the deep state and against the New World Order. I am at your side with fervent prayer, together with millions of Catholics and with all people of good will throughout the world.

>Our trust rests in God, the Almighty, whose right hand always works wonders.

<+ Carlo Maria Viganò,

Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana

Former Apostolic Nuncio of Washington, D.C. (2011-2016)

>Bishop Barron and Booking Organizers refused to have the letter read per the Canon212 website headlines.

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This board is thriving

Look at the consistency with which you can post and engage in christian conversation with a present userbase.

We can discuss anonymously and encounter new ways to view the Bible, unpopular or even fringe, to evaluate them on their own merit.

We have the fewest larpers of any time and absolutely zero board drama.

We are one of the most active boards on this, one of the most active alt chans.

We as a culture know how to engage with trolls (that is, don't engage) and have an almost shocking lack of explicit spam posts, proving we do not need an overbearing moderation team.

Thank God for 8ch and bless you. I honestly and unironically consider this place to be one of the greatest tools for Christians in church history. There has never been anything like it.

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Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads

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my take on the bible

here genesis chapter one

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Frank thread

Frank thread

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Luther Before and After

What changed his mind?

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Why didn't Satan tease Jesus sexually?

Hey /christian/, I'm not christian and I really don't mean this thread to be offensive, but I've always wondered why in the gospels Satan didn't tempt Jesus sexually. It really makes little sense to me, and would've added such a richer literary element to the temptation on the mount. It just seems like such a jarring oversight on the part of Satan.

I've always thought that Satan should've tempted Jesus with women. The temptation of food, women and power would fully encapsulate basically the entire realm of temptation. Sexual temptation is definitely one temptation men are very susceptible to, and I would've thought Satan would lay that temptation out to a seemingly human individual.

John Milton, in Paradise Regained, a poem about the temptation of christ, couldn't resist including the possibility of sexual temptation. He of course, being a pious christian, had enough respect for the source material to not bastardize it. But he brought up the possibility of it in a conversation between Beliel and Satan.

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You cannot be Catholic & a Democrat

Reminder, No Catholics have voted for Obama. Not one!


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Refuting Jewish arguments against Isaiah 7:14

Can you refute these Jewish arguments?


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This board is dying

Look at how far it has fallen on the home page, now surpassed by degenerate boards. Hardly anyone posts here anymore, or on other 8ch boards in general. What's happened?

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The foundation of Sedevacantism

The crux of Donald Sanborn's argument for Sedevacantism is that Vatican II is not Catholic because it is a substantial distortion of, not merely an accidental change to, the Catholic faith, and that therefore the entire Novus Ordo heirarchy who promulgated it, including Paul VI and his successors, are not Catholic. I fail to see how this argument can be squared with the acceptance of magisterial or papal infallibility. If Sanborn accepts the infallibility of the magisterium or of the pope, then no matter how much he thinks the Church is in error, it cannot be so. A dogma which renders the Pope infallible thereby redefines heresy such that Pope cannot commit it when speaking ex cathedra. So is it, in his view, an impossibility that any Pope following Vatican I but preceding Vatican II could have substantially distorted the faith when speaking ex cathedra? If one of these Popes had espoused ecumisim, or one of the other doctrines which Sanborn considers to be the substantial distortions of Vatican II, how could he possibly square this with his current-day argument for Sedevacantism? The doctrines of Papal and magisterial infallibility render a certain class of declarations Catholic by definition, so on what basis can Sanborn say that one such declaration could be a substantial distortion of the Catholic faith and therefore not Catholic? He would have to accept a standard of Catholicity independent of papal and magisterial infallibility, which would then make the infallibility of those entities logically impossible because of the potential that they could come into conflict with this independent standard.

Why does Vatican II fail to meet the conditions of magisterial infallibility (which Sanborn obviously thinks it does) but Vatican I does not?

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Eastern Catholics and the JQ

Question about Eastern Orthodox Catholics.

I know that they reject the Pope and all, but do they still believe that Jews are going to hell? Roman Catholics used to believe this and cucked out in 1965 by changing tunes to make nice with the Jews.

So did Eastern Catholics cuck out as well or do they still hold the doctrine of Christian Supremacy where all non-Christians will go to hell?

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Christianity & guilty by association

Christianity is OK, but be sure that one not is in cooperation w/ evil

there is scripture in Christian bible which rallies the reader to the side of 'authority', saying that you must obey 'authority' and many will infer this to mean their personal perception of authority at this or that point in time or in some situation

This could be the Ancient Romans decieving you

there are many nuances like these found in the Bible which could lead the reader off the path of virtue and into the path of wickedness, which the religion might try to justify (such as persecuting homosexuals or women)

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Degeneracy in Cartoons



>Michael John Kricfalusi (/ˌkrɪsfəˈluːsi/; born September 9, 1955), known professionally as John K., is a Canadian animator, blogger, music video director, and voice actor. He is best known as the creator of the Nickelodeon animated television series The Ren & Stimpy Show.

>In March 2018, Kricfalusi was accused by two women of sexually harassing them while they were underage. Kricfalusi released an apology for his behavior, blaming his mental health and "poor impulse control".[2]

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Does a good Christian own any firearms for defense purposes? I understand owning guns if you are a hunter or enjoy the range, but if you are not into either of these hobbies then you have intent to harm or kill. Would Jesus have owned a gun in 2020?

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not degenerate

>Christianity is not degenerate

>you're confusing Christianity with Western modernity

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Is technology inherently Evil?

Did God intend for us to design such complicated machines and societal systems that negate the value of human life? Does technology have any spiritual purpose? Would it be better if we all lived in small communities and faced Nature directly, or is there a gradient of advancements that are Good and Evil? Is industrialization the modern Tower of Babel?

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Don't be like 4chan. Don't look into conspiracies

I pray brethren that this place not become an outlet for the fake vigilance of conspiracy theory. I went too far with playing with the world and I wandered back to the mire of 4chan. I started out in /mu/ and /his/, talking about music and doing apologetics on /his/ and then other boards started slipping in. Eventually I started browsing /pol/ because I figured there was fellowship there. Somebody posted some things today I would have rather never seen regarding the evil that some wealthy people engage in. It occurs to me the internet can be a very powerful channel for ministry but that there is a dark side of it we must stay away from because we'll find things there that are grievous. It is not vigilant for a Christian to have such a morbid curiosity of the works of the devil and his children. Vigilance indeed is having the discernment to stay away from channels by way of which we might learn of this kind of monstrous evil. I hope that as Christians we trust that, if there is some spiritual danger to us we have not yet perceived, the Holy Spirit will convict us in the matter. We can't rely on fleshly knowledge of these things, which may prove to do more harm than good. I believe the cost to taking too much liberty in my Christian life and going back to 4chan, and acting as they do over there, was the things I learned of today but it shocked me into realizing I need to make a change. However I hope we can be a truly Christian forum, not one that hurls insults around, posts grotesque images all the time, acts in a conceited and condescending way, and certainly not one that drudges up the works of the devil as conspiracy theorists do. But rather let's be one that is charitable and posts things that exhort and uplift the brethren and who above all trusts the Holy Spirit to ultimately deliver us from all manner of evil. May God bless you all.

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Jesus was brown.

Jesus and Mary were brown.

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Seventh Day Adventists

My conversations about the SDA's Sabbath ideology usually goes something like this

>Isn't it arbitrary which day of the week you rest on as long as you're keeping "every 7th day" for rest and worship?

<No because God says to keep a particular day.

>How do you know which day is the true Sabbath?

<It should be the 7th day of the week because God rested on the 7th day.

>Yeah but how do you know which day is the "7th"?

<The calendar week starts on Sunday and ends on Saturday.

>Isn't it likely that the calendar has been perverted at some point over the past 10k years?

<No because the Jews have been faithfully keeping the Sabbath since the beginning of time.

Is "because the jews said so" the foundation of SDA ideology?


>I've been attending a home bible study hosted by a SDA guy who is finally starting to dive into his SDA lore. And we're watching this video series (waste of time). pic related is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIcBChM5enE&list=PLRMvJh3bpY9Uk7S7hrFt1WxPVZjA3JmfY&index=10

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Christian Minecraft Server

Hello, my name is greg. Are there any minecraft servers out there for fellow christians? I go to St. Andrews Anglican Church and with friends I would like to play in a safe invronment and connect with other christians and play.

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Do you remember?

How are you holding up brothers? I pray that you are receiving the strength and comforts which you ask for in much persistence. I pray that the lies fall out of tune completely, and the harmony is frequent.

I pray for you, truly.

Do not forget the Father is omnipotent, remember Him.

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edgy larp images

Can someone explain this phenomenon to me?

They're just fake subtitles with non christian, usually violent messages and they're always catholic.

Do catholics just have a problem of larper fakes?

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Chinese Christians

China is on track to become the largest Christian nation in the world by 2030. How do you feel about Chinese Christianity? The CCP is attempting to rid Christianity from the country.

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Stop your polytheism please.

Allah ( ) is one. Trust me, on yam ad-din, when Isa al-Masih ibn Maryam ( ) is standing with his Ummah, he will confess the oneness of Allah and he will confess that never did he ever claim to be the same as Allah, who is the most gracious and the most merciful, and most in his Ummah will perish. Isa al-Masih ibn Maryam and Musa ibn Imran ( ) and Nuh ibn Lumik ibn Mutushalkh ( ) will be greatly saddened that the majority of those in their respective Ummahs will perish in Jahannam. But many in the Ummah of Muhammad ( ) will inherit Jannah.

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Occult & Evil symbolism

Does anyone feel drawn to evil imaginary or have a past with the occult? I always find myself being drawn to scary clowns? Do scary clowns have any connections with the occult or demonology?

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TV and sexuality

Why does everyone act like it's impossible that homosexuality on TV could influence a child's sexuality? The phenomenon of children developing a fetish from seeing some weird thing in cartoons is widely acknowledged, yet people act like the idea is crazy when it comes to 'orientation'.

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Is there a point to try and live as God intended?

I'm struggling to reconcile today's Gospel reading involving the parable of the vineyard workers, Matthew 20:1-16. I understand the main point, namely, that regardless of whether one is a lifelong Christian living (or at least trying to live) as God intended or a deathbed convert, both are entitled to the same rewards in Heaven.

But this suggests that there is no benefit to try and live a virtuous life nor even to try and be a good Christian. I call to mind the Mafia and Columbian druglords who, faced with their own mortality, and their lives of murder, drug peddling, and degeneracy and how it has ruined others' lives, suddenly remember that there is a God and try to be square with Him before they breathe their last. Is there therefore any reason to not pursue a live of endless hedonism and be a deathbed convert when the "end-game", so to speak, is the same?

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Satan, the Prince of this World

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." - Ephesians 6:12

Satan, the Prince of this World


Jesus, grant us protection and strength to resist all manner of evil, and imbibe within us the courage to combat the forces of darkness whenever they rear their ugly head.

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According to Ray Comfort

God made the banana for man. It's easy to peel, the end is curved towards the mouth, and it's the perfect texture.

Since a penis fits perfectly into a mouth or anus, and it's gives a shot of protein, does this mean God made us to sodomize each other?

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Russia Converted?

What do Orthodox think about the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart? Many Catholics believe it has been fulfilled in Russia's return to Russian Orthodoxy after nearly 70 years of communism. What say you?

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Relationship General

New one edition.

Post your successes/troubles.

The responsibility is yours. Since you're the man you are the driving force behind starting a relationship. It is your job to do the first move as it is to lead all other moves.

Women seek stability. A woman is like a flower that grows towards God. A man is more like a stick. He can direct the married couple towards God. If both of them are flowers, then they stay in mud.

>Be yourself

Be confident about who you are. It will give you a special aura around yourself.

>Work on your confidence

Start at nofap thread, eliminate porn and masturbation from your life. Increase your testosterone levels by working out.

>Get hobbies

If you lack interests, you are less interesting to women. Women want men of action.

>Visit places where high quality women hang out

Church, library, your hobbies…

>Become more educated about your faith

If you want a good Christian girl you should study scriptures. If she takes her faith seriously she will probably be impressed.

Your future wife probably will not just appear out of nothing and ask you out. It is your job when she appears all of sudden to be confident enough to ask her out and handle that situation.

If any of you guys have some useful meta, please post it so we can include it in the future to the OP.

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Baptists are not Protestants.

Baptists are not Protestants.

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Any Christians you know support BLM? https://youtu.be/mieSSilnpsY

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Darkie here

please dont wear face diaper in church, if u do please stay home. If u were it it's a sign of slavery when God came to liberate us from our sins.

This mask thing was started by Asians starting at least 4 decades. The freak Michael Jackson a decade ago brought it to America.

Everything darkie says can be independently verified by a few searches

Darkie loves you, God bless you.

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Meme thread

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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Cessationism is abominable

Why is Cessationism even okay among Christians? Not only is it the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, to attribute his miraculous works to the devil. There are like 2 verses in the entirety of scripture that cessationists wrangle to say what they want them to say. If you don't believe in the supernatural work of the Spirit then you are not a Christian, simple as.

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Marital Sex

Should a husband and wife only have sex for the purposes of creating a baby? Therefore only having sex a few times every couple years at maximum?

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Catholic General


The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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Islam debunk thread

Can anons please point out the greatest reasons why Islam is illogical to believe, as well as great resources whether they be videos or books. I’d prefer from Cathodox or secular sources

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Christianity for Dummies

Jesus was a delusional rogue rabbi whose mother Mary was an adulteress and father Joseph a cuckold. His whore mother put into his mind since he was a young child that God was his "real father" and that he was a very special boy. Jesus grew very knowledgeable about the Old Testament, began to believe that he was the "Emmanuel" whom Isaiah spoke of and so he sought to fulfill the prophecies as the Messiah which he studied.

He was an apocalyptic preacher whose teachings were never meant to be written down, in fact, he announced the end of the world as being imminent and told people to give up everything and follow him; he stated that his generation was to witness it all. He was crucified, died and, of course, never rose from the dead, but his closest and most faithful followers convinced themselves of that lie and went on to preach, converting many.

For several decades following the decomposition of Jesus' corpse, stories and legends about him were spread by word of mouth before some of them were selected and written down, thus leading to the Gospels whose anonymous authors mostly copied each other. Then came Paul, an energetic and zealous repentant ex-hunter of Christians who claimed to have a vision, joined the apostles and wrote the bulk of the New Testament, introducing many teachings of his own, hence the term "Pauline Christianity". Without him, Christian theologians would be helpless.

Since Jesus appealed to the uneducated, illiterate and lowly people which constituted the overwhelming majority of the Roman Empire, his death cult spread like wild fire. The roman government, being opportunistic, eventually made it the official religion thus cementing and validating its existence. Due to this, nations grew culturally with Christianity at their core and so it has lasted to this day, aided by theologians' relentless mental gymnastics, colonialism, as well as teachings of repentance, redemption and paradise after death which attract the emotional human mind.

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Should I be worried?

I plan to have kids

but If those kids don't share my blood

could I ever loved them?

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Question for atheists/christians

is the paranormal/supernatural real?

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Cessationism is an abomination

Why is Cessationism even okay among Christians? Not only is it the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, to attribute his miraculous works to the devil. There are like 2 verses in the entirety of scripture that cessationists wrangle to say what they want them to say. If you don't believe in the supernatural work of the Spirit then you are not a Christian, simple as.

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Is there even any good arguments against homosexuality at all? I feel like Christians hate me just because the Bible says so, it doesn't have any rational reason behind it.

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When are you going to start online seminary courses bros?

Why not now?

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How do you bros avoid the sin of pornography/masturbation?

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Stop rebelling against Christ's Church.

Submit to Rome. Now.

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The REAL story of your false god.

In the days of the Hashmonaim there was a certain hair dresser named Miriam, also known as Stada, because she was an adulterer and a prostitute, and she was not faithful to her betrothed Pappus ben Judah. Now there was a certain centurion who had been sent into Judea, and his name was Joseph Pantera, and he came to Stada and slept with her and she conceived a son in prostitution, that bastard who is Yeshu ben Pantera

Now ben Pantera was a wise youth, and demonstrated great knowledge and wisdom of the Torah, having become very learned in the laws of Hashem by a young age and he impressed many of the sages and Rabbis because of his intelligence, but when he began to disrespect the customs of the synagogue he was banished into the upper regions of Judea, into Galilee, and he became Yeshu ha-Notzri.

In the days of king Yannai, when ben Pantera had come of age, he became a student of the great sage Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perahya, and as a result of the persecution at that time, ben Perahya and ben Stada fled into Egypt. But as they came into an inn, ben Perahya said, "This is a nice inn" to which Yeshu replied "Her eyes are crooked!" and ben Perahya rebuked ben Pantera because he was gazing at a woman rather than listening to his words. Everyday, ben Stada would come back to ben Perahya, begging him for forgiveness, and when ben Perahya finally offered his forgiveness, Yeshu fled from him because he did not understand that ben Perahya had offered his forgiveness. He then set up an idol of a fish and worshiped it.

As ben Pantera was worshiping the fish gods of the Egyptians, he acquired the knowledge of magic from the Egyptian priests, and when he returned to Judea in the days of queen Shlom Tzion, he began teaching sorcery to a group of disciples, and he began acting promiscuous and would sleep with all the prostitutes in the land, and he also began twisting the words of the Nevi'im to deceive his followers into proclaiming his as moshiach, and he began offering up sacrifices to the idols of the fish.

But in the days of queen Helen, he headed down into the sacred city Yerushalayim, and he unlawfully entered into the Kodesh haKodashim with an army of three hundred and ten of his followers, in hopes of starting a rebellion, and he enticed the priests to pronounce the sacred name of Hashem that he might use it for his sorcery. And he was arrested, and taken to the queen, but when he demonstrated his sorcery by raising a man from the dead, the queen was impressed and she released him.

And ben Stada continued in his sorcery, and even made birds from clay by invoking the power of the sacred name. So the faithful and wise holy man, Judah Iskarioto, who was at one time a disciple of Yeshu, went to the sages that he might help them overcome ben Pantera's blasphemies. And so the blessed and holy Judah Iskarioto was able to subdue ben Stada and his disciple Cephas by use of the sacred name, and he was brought once again before the queen. But this time he was convicted for his blasphemies against Hashem, and his use of sorcery, and his idolatry and worship of the fish, and his promiscuity. And on the eve of Passover, which happened to be before Shabbat this particular year, he was stoned by the crowd, and then he was hung from a tree where he died the death of a heretic and a coward, and some of his disciples were executed as well whose names are Matthai, Naqqai, Netzer, Buni, and Todah, and they also died as heretics and cowards.

But some heretics continued in his magic, and these became the Nazarenes, and they continued to teach and heal in the name of Yeshu ha-Notzri even to the sages, some of whom went astray, but most of whom remained faithful. But there was a wise sage by the name of Onkelos who was shown a vision by Hashem, and in the vision he saw Titus, Balaam, and Yeshu, all boiling in feces in Gehenna, where they are punished for leading many in Israel astray and for introducing sorcery and idolatry to the people.

Thus is the story of Yeshu ben Stada, the sorcerer and blasphemer. May his named be erased from the face of the earth, and may he be cursed forevermore. You Nazarenes who continue to follow this blasphemer will surely have no share in the world to come, nor will your heretic of a moshiach. Stop being deceived by your false stories, your moshiach is no more, he is dead and unfavored by Hashem because he abandoned the religion of Israel and taught sorcery.

>For the apostates let there be no hope,

and uproot the kingdom of arrogance speedily and in our days. May the Nazarenes and the sectarians perish as in a moment. Let them be blotted out of the book of life, and not be written together with the righteous. You are praised, O Lord, who subdues the arrogant.

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Arguments against Atheism

What are some arguments against atheism and in particular Matt Dillahunty's gumball analogy which he uses to prove that asking for proof of God's non-existence is shifting the burden of proof away from a positive claim to a negative.

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Trinitarianism is polytheism, Trinitarians make God into nothing but a class of individuals. You put the persons before the essence. That is directly against Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear O Israel, the Lord is God, the Lord is one"

God is ONE. The Father is how God reveals himself to creation, the Son is how God reveals himself in Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost is how God reveals himself to the Christian Church. Scripture does not teach Trinitarianism, it teaches Oneness. This was the teaching of the Apostles and this is what Apostolic Christians who have received baptism of the Holy Ghost believe in today because the Holy Ghost speaks through us.

>For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

>Isaiah 9:6

>Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

>Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

>John 14:9-10

>Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

>2 Corinthians 3:17

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Past mistakes & christianism

I made mistakes that generated a huge complexity in my life, many complex questions are in my head:how they affected some people, if I had consent or fault, if it can affect me on the future, etc. The complexity generated on these mistakes are infinite. By the way, on a christian vision, the point is:after all that, could I live a normal life? There is anymore duty that I must execute, besides the confession? How should I think about these mistakes?

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Visit please

The one preacher man I respect has a son that just made his first recording. Give him some likes.


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How does a Christian meditate?

Transcendental meditation is the final result of mind-emptying meditation. Many believe it to be Satanic. If so, how would I go about meditating like Jesus did?

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An ACNA Priest's view of the placement of Anglicanism in the Church family

>The English Reformation is not the same thing as Anglicanism. Anglicanism has it's roots in the early 4th century long before it came under the jurisdiction of Rome. Anglicans are Catholic Christians although tempered by the reformation.

>Theologically Anglicanism has more in common with Eastern Orthodoxy than either Roman Catholicism or Protestantism. However, Anglican liturgy is much more like the western Church than the eastern Church. We are Orthodox, Catholic and Evangelical all at the same time. Henry the 8th only represents the political division between Anglicans and the Bishop of Rome. Anglican spirituality is one of branches of ancient Christianity, it did not begin with King Henry or the Reformation. An Anglican Bishop in valid Apostolic Succession was in attendance at the Council of Nicene in A.D.325.

>The Reformation changed us all, not to mention the whole of Western Civilization. But unlike many of our more radical brethren of the various reform movements, we did not throw out the baby with the bathwater. We see ourselves as remaining faithful to both Scripture and Tradition especially as that Tradition has been delivered to us by the Early Fathers of the Church. Since we allow our theology to be molded more by the Early Fathers than any of the other later expressions of Christian thought, we think of our theology to be more in keeping with Eastern Orthodoxy than Roman Catholicism or Protestantism. One very good example of this is our thinking concerning The Holy Eucharist. Anglicans assert the doctrine known as "The very real present of Christ in the Eucharist". This is much closer to the Orthodox understanding than is Transubstantiation. Anglican communicants most definitely believe that a real change takes place in the elements of bread and wine but do not try to use Aristotle's philosophical definitions in order to describe it as did Aquinas.

>For Anglicans and the Eastern Church a real change takes place but it is a Mystery as to how God causes this to happen. Since the very word "Sacrament" means a mystery we do not try to define it but by faith we assert that The Bread and wine of Holy Communion really are the body and blood of our Savior. This is but one example of our closer Theological connection to Orthodoxy than Romanism.

Interesting, right?

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Is the Old Testament historically accurate ?

I have heard that the old testament is not historically accurate and that this is proof that Christianity is false, is this true about the historical accuracy and if so how are we as Christians supposed to interpret the old testament if it does not line up with history ?

See for example Exodus and Joshua.

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Catholic Orthodox Unity?

Realistically, what would it take for east and west to reunite? Will it ever happen?

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Can Christians take up arms in the new American civil war?

Is it okay for Christians to take up arms and help fight during the coming second American civil war? Especially if Christian symbols are being vandalized like they currently are? I'm seriously ready for war because they are destroying statues and burning Churches.

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John of the Cross

What is the correct order for reading John of the Cross works? Where should I start?

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Christian anime thread

Let's talk about wholesome entertainment.

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Leo Tolstoy

What do you think of these quotes from Leo Tolstoy's the Kindom of God is withing you? And in what does /christian/ think of Leo Tolstoy himself?

>The dogma, that all the governments of the world are approvingly ordained of God,

and that The Powers That Be in the United States, in Russia, in Turkey, are in accor-

dance with His will, is not less absurdthan impious. It makes the impartial Authorof

human freedom and equality, unequal and tyrannical. It cannot be affirmed that The

Powers That Be, in any nation, are actuated by the spirit, or guided by the example

of Christ, in the treatment of enemies: therefore, they cannot be agreeable to the will

of God: and, therefore, their overthrow, by a spiritual regeneration of their subjects,

is inevitable.

>I have covenanted to forsake all and follow Him, through good and evil report, until

death. But I am nevertheless a Democratic Republican citizen of the United States,

implicitly sworn to bear true allegiance to my country, and to support its Constitu-

tion, if need be, with my life. Jesus Christ requires me to do unto others as I would

that others should do unto me. The Constitution of the United States requires me to

do unto twenty-seven hundred thousand slaves 1 the very contrary of what I would

have them do unto me, viz., assist to keep them in a grievous bondage… But I am

quite easy.I voteon. I help governon. I am willing to hold any office I may be elected

to under the Constitution. And I am still a Christian. I profess on. I find no difficulty

in keeping covenant both with Christ and the Constitution…

Jesus Christ forbids me to resist evil-doers by taking “eye for eye, tooth for tooth,

blood for blood, and life for life.” My government requires the very reverse, and

depends, for its own self-preservation, on the halter, the musket, and the sword, sea-

sonably employed against its domestic and foreign enemies. Accordingly, the land

1 there were slaves then, now we may put the working people in their place

>is well furnished with gibbets, prisons, arsenals, train-bands, soldiers, and ships of

war. In the maintenance and use of this expensive life-destroying apparatus, we can

exemplify the virtues of forgiving our injurers, loving our enemies, blessing them

that curse us, and doing good to those that hate us. For this reason, we have regu-

lar Christian chaplains to pray for us, and call down the smiles of God on our holy


>I see it all; and yet I insist that I am as good a Christian as ever. I fellowship all; I vote

on; I help govern on; I profess on; and I glory in being at once a devoted Christian,

and a no less devoted adherent to the existing government. I will not give in to those

miserable Non-Resistant notions. I will not throw away my political influence, and

leave unprincipled men to carry on government alone…

The Constitution says — “Congress shall have power to declare war…” I agree to

this. I endorse it. I swear to help carry it through… What then, am I less a Chris-

tian? Is not war a Christian service? Is it not perfectly Christian to murder hundreds

of thousands of fellow human beings; to ravish defenseless females, sack and burn

cities, and enact all the other cruelties of war? Out upon these new-fangled scruples!

This is the very way to forgive injuries, and love our enemies! If we only do it all in

true love, nothing can be more Christian than wholesale murder!

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How can you believe in the Gospels knowing they were written more than half a century after Jesus' death meaning they are the result of decades of illiterate and uneducated 1st century death cultists continuously sharing stories by word of mouth until a few were selected and written down? There is surely no way stories were made up and/or modified during those decades of chinese whispers…

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I know I'm treading dangerous waters but I want answers

How can Jesus be the Alpha and the Omega? Alpha committed murder out of jealousy (Cain) and Omega's universalism led his followers to hell. Both the first and last of mankind are evil, something the Logos cannot be. I could understand Jesus' incarnation being an exception created perfect, but if so why would He even identify as one of us?

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Protestant & EO

When are we going to admit that it is the protestants and the EOs on this board who are in friendly alliance opposed to the catholic posters?

Protestant and Orthodox each address the issues from the perspective of an informed theological and historical argument which is worth debating. The Catholic (tends to) quote their catechism as law and appeal to authority.

This is the norm around here. Of course there are different aspects which each party is more similar to one than the other, but the old meme about protestants being the "other" needs to be put to rest. Imo it rose from a bias where imageboard types (political dissidents) made a pretty surface level judgment about their American protestant culture being modern and the catholic option being trad.

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Can't find a Church

>Orthodox church has weird sacraments and idolatry

>Catholic church…. lmao

>Baptist churches don't preach repentance

>reformed and Presbyterian churches have blasphemous Calvinist autism

>Pentecostals doing the Harlem Shake

>Amish won't let you join

I just want a church that preaches repentance, does baptism and discipline, believes in the continuation of supernatural experience and doesn't take a box cutter to scripture.

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Redpill me on Creationism

Used to believe in theistic evolution but I couldn't reconcile it with Adam being made from dust and Eve being made from his rib. Now I'm sorta of the idea that evolution is true but modern humans were created apart from it, but I don't really know what to believe anymore.

Any good books to read or something on the subject?

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Assyrian Christian

Hello everybody. I am an ethnic Assyrian Christian. I was born in the west but my family is originally from Iraq (although I also have relatives in Syria and Lebanon). We are mainly Catholic or Orthodox (my parents raised me as a Syriac rite Catholic) and the language we speak, Syriac/Assyrian, is a dialect of Aramaic very similar to the dialect of Aramaic that our Lord spoke. I don't speak it fluently but I can pray some traditional prayers in Syriac. I just thought my presence on here would be an interest to you guys, we have a very long history and we have been persecuted by the Muslim majority in many countries in the middle east. You can ask me anything (although it might take me a while to respond sorry) =3

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Calvinists, prove that you exist.

I want Calvinists to explain in what sense anyone other than God exists, if all of their actions and thoughts are micromanaged by his sovereign will.

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Redpill me on Creationism

Used to believe in theistic evolution but I couldn't reconcile it with Adam being made from dust and Eve being made from his rib. Now I'm sorta of the idea that evolution is true but modern humans were created apart from it, but I don't really know what to believe anymore.

Any good books to read or something on the subject?

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Creationists debate- the genesis Flood

I intend this thread to be a debate thread between atheists and Christians who don't adhere to biblical literalism against YECS so I request restraint in moderation

That said

I believe in a world wide flood for the following reasons

Latest archeological evidence from marine deposits show most of Africa was under water https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318244551_Major_transgression_during_Late_Cretaceous_constrained_by_basin_sediments_in_northern_Africa_implication_for_global_rise_in_sea_level

They found 36 ankylosaurs fossils in Alberta of which 26 were floating upside down. To me the large numbers suggest a flood event rather than successive bloat and float events Also ankylosaur fossils are found all over the world and typically in marine deposits according to both the video and the article suggesting death by flooding. There is also computer modeling suggesting a preference for floating right side up according to the article - however, I am reluctant to trust computer modeling.

I realize this is a creationist source which I try to avoid in favor of academic source, but the 3 points I make here are all backed up by academic papers linked in the post



3. there seems to be reports of dinosaurs found mixed with marine fossils repeatedly in the late cretaceous (ie the time when dinosaurs went extinct.

One good example of this is hell creek

The mixing seems to have caught on with mainstream scientists who are saying a meteor impact caused a worldwide tsunami.


A quick glance at the hells creek Wikipedia page says that along with fish, they also found sharks, octopuses, sea turtles and marine reptiles like the mosasaur.

I'm not the only one surprised by salt and freshwater species with land mammals being found at hells creek. Here is a non-creation scientist saying that they are perplexed by the finding in the New Yorker


Now here is a research paper from Berkley saying that freshwater and marine and terrestrial animals together all dead at the same time can best be attributed to a tsunami (ie. what I call a flood)


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A written law of the Christians is: if a Jew strike you on one cheek, turn the other also to him and do not in any way return the blow. And ch. 6, v. 27 says: "Love your enemies; do good to them who hate you bless them who curse you and pray for those who do you harm; unto him who strikes you on one cheek offer him the other. To him who takes away thy cloak do not forbid him to take thy coat also, etc." The same is found in Matthew ch. 5, v.39. But I have never seen any Christian keep this law, nor did Jesus himself behave as he taught others to do. For we find in John ch. 18, v. 22, that when someone struck him on the face, he did not turn the other cheek, but became angry on account of this one stroke and asked "Why do you strike me"? Likewise in the Acts of the Apostles, ch. 23, v. 3, we read: that when the High Priest ordered them that stood by to strike him on the mouth, Paul did not turn the other cheek; he cursed him saying "God shall smite thee thou whited wall, etc." This is contrary to your beliefs and destroys the foundation upon which your religion rests, for you boast that the law of Jesus is easy to observe. If Paul himself, who may be called the Dispenser of Jesus, could not observe the precept of Jesus, who among the others who believe in him can prove to me that he can do so?

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Future Christians

Biblically accurate outlets are actually three mouthed creatures that shoot lightning out of two of their mouths. The ancient Americanites believed every house has at least one outlet protecting it and many have more than one. There was once an ancient superstition that holding a fork near an outlet would make you die on the spot but this was just an ancient superstition that modern science has since disproven. Sad that so many atheists use this as a talking point to discredit Americhristianity.

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Christ-chan Thread

Show your piety by sharing your freshest icon of our new lady, Christ-chan.

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So there is an a.i jesus and no one is talking about it

Seriously you guys? Why do I always have to do the digging and making sure you brothers in christ to be kept up to date of whats going around our world and what this may lead into the future why is no one talking about this?


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How come Christian countries let interest charging banks be set up? Doesn't the Bible forbid interest.

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corrupted religion

I have a hypothesis. The prophets revealed a religion that could make suffering end. But this religion was concealed by secret societies, and a corrupted version of it was made available to the public. This version still has some truth, enough to make people want it, but enough corruption to make people suffer and unable to end their suffering. The reason is because the prophets commanded the elite to do this. And the reason is that the masses have to go through suffering, because suffering enlightens them.

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prayer thread

St. Patrick pray for us in these difficult times where we are being plagued with coronavirus. Amen.

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christ save us all


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Tolstoy and Romans 13

Does this quote from Tolstoy conflict with Romans 13 ?

>The dogma, that all the governments of the world are approvingly ordained of God, and that The Powers That Be in the United States, in Russia, in Turkey, are in accordance with His will, is not less absurd than impious. It makes the impartial Author of human freedom and equality, unequal and tyrannical. It cannot be affirmed that The Powers That Be, in any nation, are actuated by the spirit, or guided by the example of Christ, in the treatment of enemies: therefore, they cannot be agreeable to the will of God: and, therefore, their overthrow, by a spiritual regeneration of their subjects, is inevitable.

>Romans 13 1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

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Source: https://www.palmarianchurch.org/20th-report-on-the-website-of-the-holy-palmarian-church/

It is clear that what attracts people the most are superficial and immoral videos which instantly arouse the senses of the body. These insubstantial videos do what they set out to do very well: they amuse minds momentarily with banal stories and stimulate empty souls eager for new visual experiences to somehow fill up their hollowed spaces, eaten away by the pleasurable cancer of viciated idleness that audiovisual media offers them at every moment. In turn, like a vicious circle, the soul covers up its spiritual suffering with more distractions because it cannot obtain the complete happiness that it so desires, and hides this ailment for a while with a kind of mental anesthesia that, like a cancer, little by little eats away at the longed-for harmony of the soul. This is not the path that the soul should follow to obtain happiness. One thing is certain, and the saints themselves warned us through the centuries, that even if you try your hardest, you will never obtain complete happiness in the things of this world. You will lose the struggle and your time, which is very limited in this world. God has created souls with the right to seek, possess and enjoy “true happiness” which is not that of this world but of eternity: You have been created for this purpose by the Eternal Father. Your soul was “programmed” by God to seek eternal happiness, not earthly. Everything is fictitious in this world: its pleasures and honors, powers and boasting, laurels and flattery … everything is straw for flames and will be ashes in eternal life. Know that the ashes of your vanities will not cover the nakedness of your soul before Our Lord on your day of judgment. Vanity of vanities! Everything is vanity! A waste of time that leads you away from the virtues. The virtues are like fragile birds enjoying the garden of your soul: however, if unfortunately you fall into mortal sin you become like a beast. The chilling roar of that beast in the mire of sin frightens those poor birds that flutter away from you in terror, and they will not return until your soul regains the peace of the Lord.

You know well that physical exercise keeps the body healthy, and you also know that it is difficult to maintain it on a daily basis. The wild instincts of the body need to be subdued with strict exercise and diet in order to maintain a healthy life. Otherwise the body will seek the short and easy path, abusing with its excesses. Everyone knows that to maintain a slim and healthy body you have to make sacrifices. Do you think that the soul should not go through the same rigor? Only a fool would think that the same does not happen with the soul

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Become Orthodox.

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Book thread

Any good Christian books to read..

Besides the bible of course.

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Convince me

Convince me to be Christian, and that it's Christianity and not race.

I'm depressed. My life feels empty. I looked into Christianity to try to fill the emptiness, and I just can't convince myself of it completely. I recognize that religion is a good social glue and helps society, but I can't believe in it personally.

An atheist, communist country (the USSR) created a more advanced society and contributed more to humankind than any nonwhite capitalist, Christian country. Why? Because of their race.

Vermont is the least religious state in the entire country according to various polls, but it's also the #1 safest state in the entire country, tied with Maine. Why? Because they're white.

I just can't convince myself that it's Christianity and not race. Can anyone convince me or am I correct in my thinking?

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How can we be nicer regarding our differences?

Guys, we're all Christians here. And yes we are Chan users and that means one of the sins that is most familiar to us is unkindness. But really this is not what we've been called to. We're not going to convince each other of anything if we keep saying every other denomination is going to hell and that they are heretics. We are supposed to be treating, especially the brethren, with kindness and longsuffering. So how are we going to clean up our acts?

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Found out my younger brother is a gay leftist atheist and he’s going to hell.

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Does God allow us to fight back?

When the commies, jews, and degenerates try to destroy our country and corrupt our youth, are we expected to be docile and take it? When the inevitable war in the US breaks out, can we go on the offensive? Can we kill those who attempt to murder our families and destroy our homes in the name of Satan? Specific verses that clarify this would be very helpful.

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black hole

My life is a black hole. 36, health problems, never had a girlfriend, charged with crime and soon have trial, probably soon have a criminal record, hate my parents and siblings, have no friends. Not much desire to read the Bible but when I try I don't understand any of it.

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Should Christians call kikes, jews?

Its very clearly outlined in the bible that those calling themselves jews today, instead of christians, are no jews at all, but the synagogue of satan. We are the true jews now. It seems only suitable to refer to them by the next available moniker. If you look at the origin of "kike" it is a very suitable name for Christians to denote these people. It may sound coarse but they brought it upon themselves by refusing to use an "X" on immigration paperwork, because it resembled the cross. They would make a circle instead, so circle=circe=kike. The more you know.

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Let’s start another one of these. It’s a constant topic on here anyway. Here’s what I can say to simplify the whole thing so far after hearing all your debates.

>We are saved through grace and maintain our salvation through works.

There is plenty of information given by Catholics and Orthodox followers here that prove nothing we do can make us worthy of salvation, it is a free gift. This is not debatable and the Bible, in it’s entirety, clearly backs this up. There are plenty of scriptures as well proving that faith without works is dead, and the Holy Spirit gives the saved individual power to keep away from serious sins. So works comes into play after one is saved, this is also not debatable once the Bible is read in it’s entirety.

However, OSAS is a lie because there are ways we can loose that salvation and get our names “blotted out” from the book of life.

Confusion in all of this starts when some anon tries to make membership in his church a requirement for salvation, it is not.

Confusion starts on this board when some anon claims our works are “filthy rags” and useless, this is true when it comes to earning salvation, but not after we’ve been given it. God takes great pleasure in our works, that shows Him that the Holy Spirit has power in us. Our salvation should show fruits. Confusion and strife build on this board by anons that claim their church is “the way” to salvation. Wrong. Jesus is the way to salvation. No one gets to the father except through Jesus himself, those on here that disagree worship their man made organizations. Salvation is not achieved through an organization/church, it is achieved through Jesus. No church has such power. We can all kick and scream all we want but Christ is “the way” to God. The countless scriptures you all cite to prove your church is the way to Jesus is all garbage. I see a lot more fruits of the spirit in people that are not in the Catholic Church, as one example. Being in a relationship with Jesus requires no connection to any man or worldly organization. It’s just the person, Jesus, and God. If salvation was through a church then many around the world would never have been saved.

People find Christ everyday, independent from memberships in churches. They are blessed with salvation and other blessings while never entering a church. Those who are independent Christians know what I’m talking about. Those that have found Christ through a church will never know this to be true till they are forced out of their’s for whatever reason. “Cathoholic” (the anon here that carries the keys to heaven and hell), naturally would disagree. I think many of you here can agree he shows very little fruits of the Holy Spirit. That is because his church affiliation has blinded him on examining his own self and what comes out of his mouth, which is the abundance of what’s in his heart. In his heart he stands with pride waiting for the day that all Protestants (the term for “them”, in the complex of “us and them”) will go to hell. He doesn’t know Christ. Like Paul, one day he will look back at all his Pharisee-approved education and consider it “refuse”, not a refuge.

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Christianity is degenerate. Women shouldn't have rights and freedoms. The Taliban system is much better.


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Faith lost

I lost my faith and I'm a practicing Buddhist now.

I started doubting my faith due to immense guilt and depression because I wasn't able to repent. Hebrews 6 really messed me up even further. I started getting drunk every single day and then I finally tried to debunk my own beliefs and I came to the conclusion that I do not trust the Church or the Bible (which was decided upon and pretty much made by the Church).

As a Christian, I always, always struggled with reincarnation.. be in the Esoteric (Rudolf Steiner) or Buddhist way. I just can't possibly justify why some people are born severely ill and suffer immensely and others have a lot of wealth, and some die at a very young age while others live to 100 or more. I'm pretty sure the Church did something to the original scriptures and I'm sure that we have no way of knowing what Christ actually did and said.

I really want a savior, but I don't think every doctrine about Christ is real, including and especially the "only begotten Son of God" doctrine.

I wish it would be possible to actually see Christ or have any form of direct interaction and then be guided on His path if He's real and everything about Him is real. I'll be honest, this Buddhism stuff, while it works wonders for my mental health and helps me along the way in this life, I don't see it as a permanent solution. Without a savior there is too much work to be done and seems impossible… There is Amida Buddha, but it literally feels just like a different interpretation of Christ and there's not enough proof to entrust my soul to Amida

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Couple of questions

1. How do you reconcile the God of the Pentateuch with the God of the two kingdoms period+new testament

From my readings ive come to believe something close to Marcionism: I cannot shake the belief that God/Yahweh that appears to the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses etc. is different from the God that Isaiah and the prophets talk about. That God is not a universal God like the God of the New Testament or even Mohammed's Allah. He seems to me to be a patron God, like Apollo for Troy, a national God that cut a deal with the Abraham and his descendants to serve him and him alone. Its never implied in the Pentateuch that yahweh is the only God, the relationship is not clearly monotheistic, but henotheistic and monolatristic.

I don't see a clear transition to proper monotheism happening until after the kingdom divides, and its not even cemented until the end of the Babylonian exile.

2. And of course from this conclusion (that there are at least three different "Gods" in the bible: Jewish National God, monotheistic God of the prophets, and Christ, I have to ask, why was the covenant with the Jews necessary in the first place?

Why did God need to make a covenant with the Jews at all? Why are the Jews allowed to do reprehensible things to non-jews,

For example:

(For the LORD your God will bless you as he has promised, and you will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. You will rule over many nations but none will rule over you.),

This doesn't make sense from a Christian perspective, but makes perfect sense from a Jewish ethnocentric perspective where Yahweh is merely their god who lives among other gods. No Christian believe this reprehensible nonsense about creating debtors of all nations, but Jews sure do.

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True Agenda

I stambled upon this video that clarifies how much the PCR tests are a scam (searching for a chromosome 8 sequence and labelling it as virus) and the true agenda of changing our DNA.

Which is against God, we should not alter our very own DNA. We should not alter how God created us.

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Assumption of Christ

Before Christ was assumed into heaven and saw the apostles, was his body harmed by the cruxifiction or was he healed of all damage?

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Has the bible been changed ?

I watched this video about changes in the bible:


It says the bible has been changed. I thought the bible was word of God and I still think it is but if so then how can it be changed and do these changes matter ?

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How do I stop being gay?

How do I stop being such a homofag /christian/? I try, I TRY SO HARD, to be attracted to females but I just can't! I don't know why my brain wants me to have sex with other men I hate it! I want to make it go away so I can have a family! I have prayed, I have gone to church, I have fasted, I have stopped looking at porn, but no matter what I do it won't go away! :(

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same sex marriage

How can we say marriage is a christian institution when same sex marriage/unions have existed before?


>Same-sex unions were known in Ancient Greece and Rome,[2] ancient Mesopotamia,[4] in some regions of China, such as Fujian province, and at certain times in ancient European history.[5]

>Same-sex marital practices and rituals were more recognized in Mesopotamia than in ancient Egypt. The Almanac of Incantations contained prayers favoring on an equal basis the love of a man for a woman and of a man for man.[6]

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Christian Libertarianism

Is libertarianism the faith most compatible with Christianity.

Judges 9

When Jotham was told about this, he climbed up on the top of Mount Gerizim and shouted to them, "Listen to me, citizens of Shechem, so that God may listen to you.


One day the trees went out to anoint a king for themselves. They said to the olive tree, `Be our king.'


"But the olive tree answered, `Should I give up my oil, by which both gods and men are honored, to hold sway over the trees?'


"Next, the trees said to the fig tree, `Come and be our king.'


"But the fig tree replied, `Should I give up my fruit, so good and sweet, to hold sway over the trees?'


"Then the trees said to the vine, `Come and be our king.'


"But the vine answered, `Should I give up my wine, which cheers both gods and men, to hold sway over the trees?'


"Finally all the trees said to the thornbush, `Come and be our king.'


"The thornbush said to the trees, `If you really want to anoint me king over you, come and take refuge in my shade; but if not, then let fire come out of the thornbush and consume the cedars of Lebanon!'

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the vatican LIED 2 u here's wut a REAL BIBLICALLY ACCURATE angel luks like

this CONTROVERSIAL new discovery spells big poopies for pope francis

it turns out BIBLICALLY ACCURATE angels r actually messes of abstract artwork not babies cuz lul babies r silly stupid doodoo

go ahead n tell ur christian grandma that shes FUKKIN WRONG about everything n angels r actually an acid trip

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Faith Means you want to give up sin and Obey the Lord

That's what LORD means! You obey the LORD who sets the law.

The cross of the Lord is our sins. Christ suffers for bearing this burden. We have to do our share in bearing our own sins like Saint Simon bore the cross.

Jesus Christ told us to sin no more, not that we can sin without repentance and asking forgiveness.

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Let me get this straight, please..


Anything that feels good, is ultimately a tool of satan.

And, the fruit of the spirit is something one must abstain from worldly pleasure to experience.

Long suffering is the main fruit it seems.

I suppose this is good, everything that is bad will be good at first after-all,

But how the fack does one winnie the pooh bear misery every single facking day? Don't feed me some BS about gratitude, this barely helps oneself get up and take a shower in this constant dread, let alone jump for joy.

I understand gratitude, I think. It, too, is not about giving you good feelings, more so about reminding oneself that he has the breath of life.

To me, it seems like you either accept a life of misery, and trust God that it is worth it, or you take Pfizer medication for depression and facking go fly kites or some crap.

I became a christian to help people, and now I am begging God everyday to just help me eat food and wash myself after facking feeling like I have been sucked of all of my life for 2 months.

I keep telling myself it is so that one can learn a deeper meaning about suffering, and use that to help others.

But, I guess that is silly, I will keep begging God while thanking him for having what I need.

Paradoxical? Very much so. But, I accept that he is more than mere human thought.

Dont know what to say really. Or even what I just said, all facked up I suppose? Good? All things work together for good, I must tell myself and force the sarcasm out of my voice, because, of trust.

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Want to believe but..

I always wondered and could never get a straight up answer on a particular question. Why did God specifically choose the Jews as his people rather than just revealing himself to all peoples including Gentiles from the get-go, that is if he truly wanted to be known by different peoples? Gentiles often seem to be represented as second-class citizens in scripture and as someone who is white and of European descent (and also not ashamed of that fact) I get rather hung up on this.

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Millennium has passed?

Is it plausible that the 1000 year millennial rule of Christ has passed? Is it possible that Satan has been let loose? And possibly has been on the loose for maybe even centuries at this point? It seems as we may be living in the period between the millennium and the resurrection of the dead. Just my insight but maybe I'm wrong. However I am not saying the end of the world is imminent (although it could be).

Literal millennialism is a heresy, Protestants who hold this view are not welcome in this discussion.

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Biden evidence: just unloading this biden-bombshell

(links below)

Secret service accounts depicting Joe Biden:

* brazingly, in front of their loved ones:

* groping spouses

* groping girlfriends

* groping daughters/teens

* waiting for his wife to leave to swim naked in front of female staff

* purposefully:

* walking around naked in the middle of the night

* targeting service-women:

* implied sexual abuse

* male staff had to routinely:

* remove them from situations with excuses

* stand in front of the women to protect them from (on occasion naked) biden

* almost getting hit for doing the above mentioned (where the lawsuit comes from)


the article that takes it all nuclear:


the lawsuit:


other papers:



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What do Christians, particularly Orthodox Christians mean when they speak of the raising of the dead? Are all souls to be reunited with the body in the end?

Also Orthodox book suggestions thread.

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Albert Pike's 3rd World War

Is it possible that this was the Cold War?

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One being or many?

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Help me with this, /christian/. I really want to become a believer but first I need an answer to the biggest logical paradox in christianity.

God created everything that exists and gave his creatures free will. If we use this free will for evil deeds, we get punished. So far so good. BUT with our free will we are able to take away free will of others if we want to. We can imprison, torture and brainwash (MK ultra) others for the purpose of turning them evil too so the cycle of turning good people evil never stops. If free will is so important that god even allows evil to exist so we can have a choice, what happens with people whose choice have been forcefully taken away? Some people have literally no choice and yet when you ask average christian why god allows evil they say it is because he want us to have free will to choose between good and evil. Human brain works like a programmable machine and there isnt any scientific proof of free will, its all about faith that we actually have one. Therefore evil have priority before good

in case of converting other people because good cannot force anyone to be good, it would be illogical and even the concept of christian god is proof of that. It is obvious that the world is heading to apocalypse of biblical proportions, but according to logic in good vs evil equation it appears to be pretty much inevitable. Therefore prophecy about the great tribulation in the end times is not really a prophecy, it is predetermined outcome of the nature of this world.

lets wrap this up:

good god = choice between good and evil

choice between good and evil = evil inevitably wins because you can force people to turn evil, but cannot force them to turn good

evil inevitably wins = need for a messiah

messiah stops evil = free will to choose evil is forcefully taken away = evil

It always ends with some kind of predetermination, so why even bother with an illusion of choice? Right now I believe that this world is just a dream of one mind pretending to be billon of individual minds, playing games of "what if?" ad infinitum. I think that this is the only solution to problem of evil. Many respectable mystics and sages claim that they found this secret after lifetime of searching for god and meditating. The reason why Im trying to find logical way to christianity is because I want to know if my loved ones are really individual beings or if I actually only loved myself, pretending I love separate being. So go on and change my mind, Im open to new ideas but they have to make sense.

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Protestants are filled with demons.

Protestants are demon possessed.

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Mary Thread

Hello Cathodox brothers and sisters in Christ, let us have a thread devoted to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Theotokos and Queen of Heaven and Earth, who rules alongside her son, our Lord and God Jesus Christ, Son of the Father, with the power of the Holy Spirit.

Theotokos Virgin, rejoice, Mary full of grace, the Lord is with You. Blessed are You among women, and blessed is the fruit of Your womb, for You have borne the Savior of our souls.

The Blessed Virgin, having been overshadowed by the Holy Spirit, became the New Eve, conceiving Christ and becoming the ark of the New Covenant, the tabernacle of God, and in time her son would build the new Temple of God, his bride the Church, modeled after his own mother Mary, our Queen and intercessor, mother of all the faithful in heaven and on earth, being granted these privileges by the grace of her son and God, Jesus Christ.

'''Hail Mary full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou among women and

blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners

now and at the hour of our death Amen.'''

Mary's prayers are the most powerful of all the saints, pray to her and ask for her intercession daily. Peace be to you all in the name of the most holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, one God forever. Amen.

Protestants are not allowed in this thread. However, pray for them my fellow Cathodox, that they may repent of their heresies against Mary and may come to honor her as Queen.

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Hillsong anti white

Shocking news, the pastor of one of the apostate Hillsong churches thinks churches are the source of racism.


These are the people who drive the culture, especially in younger crowds. Practically every 20 something English speaking christian at least knows Hillsong worship songs.

This is the same church which a few years ago reenacted a "naked cowboy" sketch in church.

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Orthodox General


This thread is to help all the Orthodox anons on this board to gather their thoughts, uplift each other, share edifying materials, and ask important questions.

Glory be to God in all things.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Useful Links

Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/

OrthodoxWiki: https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page

Canons of the Seven Ecumenical Councils: http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_INDEX.HTM

The Orthodox Church in America: https://oca.org/

Orthodox Christianity (a site that hosts articles predominantly written by clergy): http://orthochristian.com/

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A defense and appeal for Fideism

I just wanted to explain why I believe Fideism will be an important concept for the endtime saints and why if you are a Calvinistic cessation type, who really tries to diminish any concept of the supernatural in his Christian life and base his belief on reason, you have in fact built your house on sand. Personal experience of God is stronger and more sure than any piece of doctrine. Now don't take me as a hyper-charismatic who tries to diminish the place of Scripture and its exegesis in the Christian life; I do not say such things. In fact if Scripture were in any way unreliable then we would be in tremendous trouble. What I'm saying is that if you have not had personal experience of God, you should hope and pray for such special revelation. I don't want to, once again like a charismatic, flaunt things like spiritual gifts, and personal experiences of God like I'm saying you should despair if you have not had these experiences. I'm merely affirming that the place for the supernatural is both relevant and essential to the Christian life. I think some people are afraid to confront that they are doing battle with the most ancient and intelligent beings in all of creation, because quite frankly the truth of that is terrifying. But shrinking into a rationalized Christianity will not deliver you in the day of evil. I will say the devil is much smarter than you, or me or any man. He's a fool and devoid of wisdom but his logic is well beyond anything humanity has managed to obtain. In fact you can already see how he's perhaps even sown lies in your heart and mind. Do you for instance realize what an abominable and sickening idea evolution is? Try willfully not believing in evolution for a season and read genesis without such preconceptions and pray on it. Just let go of that belief for a season and see how utterly disgusting it becomes to you, a doctrine that says man is made in the image of beast, instead of God. Now maybe we're all sufficiently conspiratorial enough that we've disabused ourselves of notions of evolution. Still, doesn't matter. The worst of the devils lies are in the occult. I came from that world. I knew about spirits likes tulpas and all that nonsense and I thought, "okay yeah that might be real" but I didn't do rituals or anything. I believed by a syncretic study of world religions I would ultimately hone in on truth because, well its reasonable everyone would have some fragment of it in their belief systems, right? I mean all I'd have to do is take the commonalities between the world belief systems and fit them into a constellation of belief and I'd have as close as man has come to the truth. Well, since the truth was delivered by God himself, I suppose that's true. Well, obviously this is called the occult or theosophy, so soon I found myself listening to Manly P. Hall lectures, reading Albert Pikes "The Book of the Law" and eventually I settled that I was a "neoplatonist". I also adhered to ideas that life was something to be maligned and was an antinatalist. I will say at every step of my Christian life, divine mystical revelation, given of the grace of God was ESSENTIAL to bringing me out of these beliefs and ideas that I encountered in the occult still come to mind and threaten my faith, which is entirely based on my experiences of Christ. In fact I have come to think of my rational mind as similar to my sexuality, something to be sublimated into a Godly presentation through perseverance in faith, vigilance and patience. Its not often that I find myself reasoning a thing about God that doesn't infringe on some blasphemy or another. Hence I also treat logic and reason as something convenient for men but by no means something which God's own mysteries should be bounded by. I will now deliver a testimony of how God gave me such personal revelation that it rescued me not only from my own reason, sand, it rescued me from a hyper-charismatic cult.

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Is there room for Gnosis in Christianity?

Or must we be contented with belief alone?

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Calvinism is the unforgiving servant

Calvinism makes the mistake of thinking that the lower the view of man, the higher the view of God. It believes through the intense misanthropy of treating man with utter contempt and loading him up with all manner of sin and evil, while denying him even the slightest free choosing of righteousness; faith and repentance, that God's glory will be thus magnified. But rather all it ends up doing is depriving man of real responsibility by not letting him choose to do good instead of evil. Thus he becomes a channel for sin, which is logically necessarily imputed to God, to be funnelled through; he effectively becomes a scapegoat for the Calvinist god (as if God should need any such thing). The bad fruit of Calvinist doctrine comes down to one matter: it does not treat man with the same compassion and mercy God has actually shown towards him. By way of utterly despising man, Calvinism harms the good name of God in the process. Therefore Calvinism is just like the unforgiving servant of the parable, selfishly taking grace, with ingratitude and yet giving none of its own.

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Why are the people at reddit.com/r/Christianity so winnie the pooh stupid?

I asked about how to forgive my enemies as I'm charged with crime. The only thing they cared about was whether the enemies in question are actually enemies or not. I pointed out this is irrelevant and that what defines an enemy in this context is simply whether you hate someone and perceive them as an enemy. They couldn't handle such a discussion but just wanted to shut me up and get me downvoted etc. Which is ironic because that behavior itself shows they don't know s— about forgiving an enemy, in this case me since they were offended by my criticism.

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about the board

i came here looking for advice and companionship from people i hoped would be dedicated to following Jesus christ. unfortunately, im really uneasy about believing or listening to any of you, quite frankly. one of the most popular and prominent threads on this board is literally just an otaku thread. how am i supposed to believe any of you are men of christ when you allow this kind of subversion to happen? japanese culture is not compatible with christian culture. no amount of biblical references in your favorite anime will justify it, and neither will choosing an anime that isnt necessarily lewd or perverted. the problem doesnt lie with that, it lies with the fact that your obsession with japanese culture is infiltrating a place of holy discussion, solely for holy discussion.

another thing ive noticed, this is essentially only a step above /pol/. you can articulate your sentences, use proper grammar and punctuation all you want, but it still doesnt change the fact that following common "chan" culture is inherently against the word of god. using negative words like "fag", unnecessary jew-hating, overt cynicism… these are not symbols of good character. to be fair, there is plenty of room for discussion on judaism, but using that as a vehicle for /pol/ discussion is not what this board was intended for. this board is to be the exception to all of chan culture.

i came here because i wanted anonymous fellowship from what i hoped were well-meaning christians, but i soon realized any of you would lack basic self-awareness and immediately found out that any real discussion would be useless.

i dont want to be overly critical as i know plenty of you are well-meaning, but i also want to introduce some accountability to all of you. think about what your message is to the world and the online community, especially to newcomers, when a staple of your discussion is the integration of japanese animation to the word of god.

not only is the japanese stuff a problem, upon entering the forum i am immediately bombarded with infighting, self-doubt, despair and hopelessness. lots of threads and conversations about irredeemability, being lost to god, permanent damnation… while i realize that the word of god is not always sunshine and rainbows, fear-mongering and spreading misinformation is especially frightening to some and can turn people away.

i dont want to be perceived as hostile or in bad faith, and i hope some will give me the benefit of the doubt as i try my best to do, but i cant see much productive discussion here.

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Can anyone give me a Biblical argument against hyper-pacifism? My readings of Scripture seem to suggest that self-defense and war are a form of vanity, and judgement upon sinners should be left to God and God alone, even if it costs you your life.

I understand there are people in the Old Testament (such as King David and Abraham) who killed their enemies, but these seem to be justified only because they were explicitly commanded by God, which rarely if ever happens in the modern era. Stories of those who are not chosen for vindication, like Samson's suicidal retribution, are punished for their violence.

The recent situation with Kyle Rittenhouse reminds me of when Judas and the Roman guards arrest Jesus, which Jesus knows will result in his death. Jesus's disciples attempt to defend Jesus and attack the guards, but Jesus commands them to stop and heals a guard's ear. If Jesus allowed himself to be killed by forces of evil, was it wrong for Kyle not to do the same? Even though he surrenders himself to fulfill Biblical prophesy, would he have done anything different if nothing was written about his coming?

Many point to the verse where Jesus says to sell your garments and buy a sword, yet when his disciples use the weapons Jesus commands them to stop. It seems that Jesus only told them to do so in order to make them appear as criminals and zealots, ensuring his arrest and fulfillment of prophesy. Hence why he tells them that two swords are enough.

I believe that all judgements of life and death should be reserved for God, even if that means the death of my kin and survival of Satanic enemies. Life appears to be a test built atop many, many layers of abstraction. And though though a sin may seem justified and beneficial to the world's overall wellbeing, it is still wrong and fails the ultimate test. Take the story of when the Devil offered Jesus control of the entire world in exchange for one act of Satanic worship. Despite the millions of lives Jesus could've saved and improved, he declined.

This is where I have ended up so far in my reading, and I would much appreciate if anyone has any refutes to the idea of Christian pacifism. Thanks for your time.

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Chemists - This Most Based Scientists?

A little long, but worth a watch.

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Psychedelic Christianity

Psychedelic mushrooms are a gift from God. They grow from the earth to heal and are a gateway for humans to connect with god. Compare this to lab created pharmaceutical drugs that enslave man.

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Romans 13

So is it "let every soul be subject to higher powers" or "everyone be subject to governing authorities"? Which is the original definition?

"the powers that be are ordained of God" that's hard to believe, since the state is so against God's ways?

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naive worldview

It really irritates me that whenever you talk to Christians online about forgiving enemies, they always assume the enemy is sinning, is misguided, doesn't know what they're doing, is wrong, you have done nothing to deserve their treatment etc. I think the people who not only assume the enemies are like this but also are totally incapable of imagining it might be different, have very little own experience of enemies. The fact of the matter is very often enemies think they are going God's work punishing you. Some of these idiots say well if they did nothing wrong, or they didn't break the law, or you broke the law and they enforced the law etc then they aren't your enemies and so there is nothing to forgive. This is really a very naive worldview.

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Jay Dyer and the Trinity

>if you don't subscribe to the Essence Energy Distinction you are going to hell!

>absolute divine simplicity is a damnable heresy!

Is Jay Dyer right? Is this really that important? He says this flawed understanding of the Trinity is why Catholics are not the true church.

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"Racemixing" is not a sin

More and more recently, it has been popular on /pol/ and other boards to claim that the Bible says "racemixing" is a sin. I've even been told by one that Jesus hates racial impurity and will destroy racemixers at the Apocalypse. Whenever one tries to ask them where such is found in the New Testament, they start calling people jews and continue to cite Old Testament Israelite laws and non-canon books such as Tobit.

Myself, I am a white man married to a Chinese woman. It is my understanding that the Old Testament was such for the same reason the New Testament warns to not be unequally yoked. That is to say, marrying outside your race before the coming of Christ meant that you were marrying into another religion because all races had their own racial paganism. So it was not unlawful because of racial difference, but idolatry to pagan gods and rituals that would be passed by one parent to offspring. Their faith would not be to God.

My wife and I are both Christian. I chose my wife because of her obedience to God, and because I found other women lacking. Of course, I also find her far more attractive than other women in personality and looks.

Is it unwise to marry outside of your race? Perhaps, especially so for some races, but I can find no substance of it being a sin.

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Is he right?

are materialists correct?

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Pray the anime away?

Is it a sin to be obsessed with anime? If so, how do I stop being obsessed with so much anime?

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Carl Jung?

What do you guys think about Carl Jung? Specifically his view that religious symbols and mythological motifs stem from a collective unconscious of archetypes. I just read his book "Answer to Job" where he basically psychoanalyzes Yahweh and concludes his reason for becoming a man in Jesus was to make up for what he did to Job by becoming ego conscious. What do you guys think of Jung?

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Catholic church worships Geroge Floyd


Gates of hell, right?

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What are your thoughts about Ethiopian Orthodoxy or Ethiopians in general?

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sinless yet punished

I don't understand this. So Jesus was totally sinless and yet the state sentenced him to be nailed to a cross and tortured to death? How does that make any sense? It has to be metaphor.

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How can other denoms even compete?

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Save me from these people, please. Where are the real Catholics?

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Potentially have cancer and worried about dying early.

Just today i have been experiencing tingling on one of my moles, i suspect that i may have skin cancer/Melanoma. How can i cope with this that my death may be near? I believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and put my trust in him alone, so i know that i have Eternal Salvation. i am worried that i will die to early before i can raise a family.

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End of the second day.

I never see this talked about, and it never occurred to me until the other day.

2030 will be the 2000th anniversary of Christ's death.

A day to God is a 1000 years.

In 2030 two days will have passed and the third day will begin.

Christ resurrected on the third day.

Could this actually be it?

Maybe I'm just skitzo

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Christian Server

Hello, and we hope you consider joining our Discord Server, "Bible Study". It is an active, Christian Discord run by My Wife and I. Because of the influx of trolling and raiding on many occasions which has required us to mass ban many people, we do have a small vetting process.

To get into the server all you have to do answer our vetting questions, you don't even have to be a Christian get in, but we have this small vetting system in place to weed out any trolls and keep the server nice, friendly, and on topic. We are not a extremely puritanical Christian server, we do allow memes, and the majority of members are Zoomers, and Millenials, but we are not Christians in name alone either.

There are various roles to choose from and bots.

Please come and enjoy your stay.


All denominations are welcome.

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How exactly does one pray successfully

How exactly does one pray? How does one ask God for help in certain situations and have him answer? I try to pray to God but it all usually comes out as shouting into the void it feels like.

If anyone could please pray for me, I would appreciate it.

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autism medication

Due to diagnosis of autism I have a right to ask my doctor to write drug prescription for methylphenidate (concerta/ritalin). Should I accept it as a Christian?

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In Need of prayers and guidance.


I have had a rough couple years since starting my relationship. It was great at first but now it has turned abusive. On top of that, my GF may be pregnant and she told me if so she will abort. I turned away from the lord when I started the relationship, I guess that is my punishment. I have started to return to the lord a couple months ago, but the abuse has been getting worse. So far it’s fine, but I just need prayers, I pray everyday as well. Please pray that she is not pregnant, please pray that the abuse ends.

Thank you brothers and sisters.

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I was discussing with a person on another board. I said I think when the Bible says forgive your enemy this doesn't only mean people who have wronged you according to some law. This person kept saying if they haven't wronged you according to some law they haven't done anything wrong and therefore isn't your enemy so what is there to forgive. Also if enemy just means someone who has wronged you then the definition of "to wrong someone" is:

1a : to do wrong to : injure, harm

b : to treat disrespectfully or dishonorably : violate

2 : defraud —usually used with of wronged them of their land

3 : discredit, malign

In other words, not necessarily breaking any law, whether human law or "God's law". There was also another person who said if the other person hasn't broken any law they aren't your enemy and you have no right to be angry at them. What does this even mean? It looks like a logical fallacy to me. To say that you have no right to be angry at those who haven't broken any law and therefore aren't your enemy implies that you do have a right to be angry at those who have broken some law and therefore are your enemy. But those are the ones you are supposed to forgive… In this context I think it's interesting that I heard a Buddhist nun say that in the West we think a little bit of anger is sane but in Buddhism the view is that any amount of anger is a mental sickness. I think when the Bible talks about enemy this isn't defined by anything outside of your mind. Your mind defines what is an enemy. An enemy is simply anyone you have unforgiveness towards, i.e. anyone who you perceive to be causing difficulty for you in any way or anyone you hate or dislike.

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Modern art and music

Is it okay for Christians to like modern art?

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What should be the Christian position on neuroscience? If we admit it's validity, how do we reconcile things it says about human behaviour with spiritual responsibility? Well I guess Calvinists, who have no real sense of man's responsibility anyway, are in the clear. But what about the rest of us who believe man can distinguish good from evil and freely choose either?

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Conspiracy Theories are not worth it!

Christians believe they are being vigilant by looking into conspiracies but it couldn't be farther from the truth. They are introducing themselves to satan's most deadly lies, occult confusions of Good and evil, nihilistic philosophies, demonic wiles and the ugly details of things they should be trusting the discernment of the Holy Spirit to protect them from. You cannot call yourself vigilant if you're so worried about knowing satan's battle plan for yourself. If you try to understand evil in your own power you will only grow closer to it. Jesus bless you.

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Advice and prayer needed

Guys I need help, A few weeks ago I started back watching porn, smoking cigarettes, just generally living an unhealthy lifestyle. I can’t stop myself, and I think it’s because I haven’t been going to church.

There is no real excuse, but I don’t know which way to go. I was raised Pentecostal, church of god, but I’m so lost.

I recently moved to where I am now and I haven’t been able to find a church that even merely leaves me feeling like I’m closer to God.

I don’t want to live in this sin, I want to go to church, and I know it’s as easy as prayer and attendance, but my God, I don’t hardly have the time.

I need prayer, advice, anything. I spend my time afraid of Gods wrath but living in abundant sin.

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Problems with papal infallibility

Debunking Catholic Truth Claims - Why Papal Authority Is Unsupportable

One of the central truth claims of the Catholic Church (perhaps even the most distinctly Catholic truth claim), is that Jesus entrusted the apostle Peter with a unique authority in the Church, an authority that through the practice of Apostolic Succession has been borne throughout history by his successors, the Bishops of Rome or the Popes. The Biblical source for this truth claim is found in the Gospel of Matthew, specifically in chapter 16, verses 13-20.

Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ.

Now there are a number of problems with the Catholic Church’s reliance on this passage to support the truth claim of Papal authority, and the best place to begin is by seeing how this passage holds up under the three primary tools of Biblical Academia; independent attestation, dissimilarity, and contextual credibility.

Independent Attestation

The principle of Independent Attestation holds that a saying attributed to Jesus is more likely to be historical if it is attested in multiple independent sources; in the same way, the account of a crime is more likely to hold up in court if it is affirmed by several unrelated witnesses, rather than if it is attested to by only one person.

So with this criteria in mind, is the passage above found in multiple gospels in the New Testament? Well, Luke does not contain it, and neither does John. The only gospel that contains something similar is Mark chapter 8, verses 27-30, which has this version of the story.

And Jesus went on with his disciples to the villages of Caesarea Philippi. And on the way he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that I am?” And they told him, “John the Baptist; and others say, Elijah; and others, one of the prophets.” And he asked them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter answered him, “You are the Christ.” And he strictly charged them to tell no one about him.

Rather than support the text in Matthew, this similar passage in Mark actually undermines its credibility. Note that in this version Peter merely declares that Jesus is the Christ, not “the Son of the Living God,” and Jesus’ only response is not to tell anyone about this; he makes no mention of the Church, Peter, or the rock on which the Church will be built. Now, it is nearly universally agreed upon by New Testament scholars that the Gospel of Mark predates Matthew, the author of which relied on Mark as a source for his own gospel. So what is more likely; that Mark deliberately left out this critically important saying of Jesus delegating authority to Peter, or that the author of Matthew embellished Mark’s story by adding it in? This indeed is the explanation supported by biblical scholars. If this saying of Jesus is as important as Catholic apologists and theologians make it out to be, it is inconceivable that none of the other gospel writers found it worth mentioning in their own accounts.

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Adversus judaeos

Anyone able to help me find a physical copy of st. John Crysostom's adversus judaeos (eight homilies against the Jews) translated to English that I could buy?

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Mary Worship ruins everything

>Reading about Orthodox theology

>Find the explanations on theodicy, soteriology and eschatology beautiful

>Reverence for mystery

>Fired up by the testimony of St. Silouan of mt. Athos

>Go to Orthodox Church

>See this (giant Mary icon twice the size of Jesus')

Welp, the LARP is over I guess

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Tell the truth

Why can't we tell the truth? Why must we hide our power level? We let these sinners, blasphemers, and degenerates spew their lies and do nothing about it. We are too afraid of being persecuted for telling the truth. Nevermind that men throughout history have spoken their minds in the face of beheadings and torture. We fear social ostracization and loss of income. We are weak, and we idly watched our society degenerate into a Godless cesspool.

TELL THE TRUTH. Embrace the persecution.

How many minds could we change if we used plain language instead of dogwhistles? Are we not complicit every time we hear a lie and say nothing against it?

You do not need to kill your enemy. You do not need to plan elaborate operations. You do not need to sit in silence any longer. You do not need to stay weak and cowardly. All you need to do is tell the truth.

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Shroud of Turin

What's /christian/'s thoughts on the Shroud of Turin? Is it authentic?

I remember there was a famous info graphic that was made on the old board supposedly proving its authenticity.

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Did the west ever really convert?

People might argue the Bible is Hebrew and therefore different from paganism but it was the pagan Romans who decided what books get to be canon. Only what was compatible with their ideology was allowed to be Christian canon. Some people might argue Protestantism is the true Christianity breaking away from pagan Catholicism but the Protestants never added anything Rome didn't want in the Bible. They just removed some books. Every single book in the Bible is still Roman pagan approved. It would be like if out of thousands of african tigger scribbles I only picked the 0.1% that align with the US constitution to preserve. They might read pretty weird because tiggers but the ideas contained within would still be 100% American. And I really doubt genuine conversion to a drastically different religion is possible without deracinating yourself (and no the prot/cathodox dichotomy doesn't count because they're both still very similar and Christian despite the bickering that goes on here) and as we've all seen deviating from tradition usually leads to death. America abandoning its tradition of racism led to drastically rapid societal decay. An even more drastic conversion from Roman paganism to genuine hebrewism would've been even worse. If it ain't broke don't fix it is nature's motto.

This would also utterly destroy the kike shill narrative that Christianity isn't native to Europe because in spirit it is.

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Judaism is satanism

We've all heard this before but is it true?

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How can you not lust?

I don't get it. So Christ says not to commit adultery in our hearts by lusting, but how is that possible especially for males? Because when I see a beautiful woman I literally have no control over my attraction towards her especially if she has a good face and body with nice curves and waist and breasts and hips and legs and yes the buttocks too (I'm trying to be as tame as possible here). It's impossible for me not to notice her in that way. So isn't "lust" an essential part of attraction? Especially for males since the physical looks of a woman is what primarily attracts us males. I don't get it. Like yeah I want to have sex with a girl I'm attracted to, otherwise I wouldn't be attracted to her and no offspring would be produced…

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Does the Pope fear AI? [Catholics Only]

I recently listened to some performances of the rosary on YouTube in order to check that I was praying it correctly. This was a fruitful effort as it exposed a flaw in my approach and it exposed me to the fact that some people pray for the Pope's intention.

Now, at first, I just assumed that the Pope's intention was merely whatever he wants the fate of the Church to be so it's just a roundabout way of praying for the strength and spread of the Church but I found out that there is actually a list of "Intentions" that the Pope has for every month in the year. I legitimately never knew about this.

All of the intentions for the year of 2020 are listed on the website of the Bishops of America so perhaps praying for the Pope's intention is merely an American practise. Well anyway, I noticed the intention for November and I found that a bit strange and a bit disturbing. For November, the Pope wants us to pray that AI and robotics "may always serve mankind". Now, personally, I treat the Sci-Fi scenario of something like a rogue AI taking over the world as pure fiction because, well before the arrival of the predicted Singularity, God will most certainly appear. Time doesn't just progress endlessly into the future, it has a definite end and that end is with the return of Christ. Nonetheless, the very fact that the Pope wants us to pray for this implies that he must believe that the opposite is a possibility, i.e., AI and robotics really can go rogue and either enslave us or massacre us.

Typing all of this up, I just had the thought that perhaps the prayer is more like "We pray that the progress of robotics and AI may always [be put in use to] serve Mankind" but nonetheless, my original thought is still there. What do you guys think of the Pope's November Monthly Intention?

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Eternal Security

In light of passages like Hebrews 6:4-8, is eternal security Biblical? It seems like the passages people put forward in favor of it, are simply tautologies. That is to say, they are there to give encouragement to whoever might be grafted into the corporate body of the Church at the end; they are not meant to evidence anything apologetically. Besides there are far more passages unambiguously warning of the dangers of willful sin, blasphemy and apostasy.

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Is it a sin?

To kiss/lick your wife's bumhole? Not asking about putting the banana in the tailpipe. That's sodomy. Specifically, orally stimulating her bumhole. Serious question.

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Sex orgy part in San Francisco


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Biblical Cosmology

If Fundamentalists like Anderson really read the Bible literally, including the creation account, then this is the cosmology they should believe in.

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The Greatest Mystery in all of Christendom

You have 5 (five) days to reconcile God's sovereignty with man's responsibility to any satisfactory degree.

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Is Melchizedek Jesus?

Is Melchizedek pre-incarnate Christ?

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Peak Evangelicalism

Why can’t Protestants go a year without embarrassing the Body of Christ?


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Pagan imagery in Christian art?

To what degree is it wrong to include and adapt pagam imagery and symbols in Christian art… or is it always wrong?

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Your religion is a Jewish death cult.

>Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef

Lmao Christkikes, I want to sacrifice your children to Odin who is a badass unlike your whiny Jewish cucked deity. Lmao

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Are we under judgement?

Western civilization is collapsing. It's been collapsing for a while but we're finally at the climax. Is this a judgement from God? This virus and these riots, are they sent from God because of all the homosexuality and debauchery that the west has been committing for the last few decades?

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Inconsistencies in Scripture

How do you answer anyone who says the Bible isn't the word of God when they point out differing accounts in scripture like Judas hanging himself vs. Judas' guts spilling supernaturally?

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German Catholic archbishop calls for debate on woman clergy


>One has to be permitted to think about and discuss the issues,” the German archbishop said on Aug. 19. He argued that “Ordinatio sacerdotalis,” St. John Paul II’s 1994 letter that stated the church cannot ordain women as priests, was positioned as a response to those who considered women’s ordination “open to debate” and affirmed the male-only priesthood “in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance.”

>Archbishop Hesse said new arguments had emerged in the conversation around women’s ordination that needed to be addressed. “The historical perspective is one thing—but it isn’t everything,” he said.

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Why even listen to anyone else?

I get some of you are new converts who lack knowledge and a thorough reading of the Bible and lives of the Saints but why put your trust in random people? Interpret the Bible within the context of other parts of the Bible and if something doesn't fit check Strong's concordance. Stop relying on other people and our current culture to interpret the Bible. The old Crusaders were far more devout than the homo clergy will ever be and were willing to risk far more for what they believed.

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I feel great peace. I know I'm saved.

Thank you Jesus for redeeming me!

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Podcasts / Audio Series

Going to start working out and fasting, and want some good podcasts or readings (with commentary) that I can listen to while doing so. Wouldn't mind an entire series, or even the whole bible.

In other news, I'm planning on getting my life together. Deleted pron and browsing apps, going to try and do a detox of the stuff I really need to cut.

If you're thinking of doing this, theres no better time than the present. I'm hoping and praying that I can finally get some self discipline in my life, and heres to those that need it being able to do the same

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Christian People Do Not Understand Correctly About Jesus’s Teaching, Here Is The Eternal Truth

Christian People Do Not Understand Correctly About Jesus’s Teaching, Here Is The Eternal Truth

Source: freejoy.aimoo.com

Jesus is not the savior Messiah, because I am the only real savior Messiah.

That is why I am here to clarify what is “wrong” and “correct” from Jesus’s teaching.

Whether he did it on purpose or his knowledge was limited, I do not debate do not care.

The most value thing Jesus did bring to the Christianity was bringing hope about a better future, better world.

He said people should devote, pray worship God.

But what is exactly that mean?

First, you need to understand what is God which Jesus did refer?

Secondly, you need to understand is devote, pray worship truly mean?

Of course everybody have their own understand about the meaning of the word, just like to some people a luxury car is cheap, but too most people they are very expensive.

That is why the higher understanding about the meaning of words from the higher stand point the better.

I am the real savior Messiah, and I am going to give you my knowledge, whether you believe it or not, it is up to you.

The God here is the human’s Creator.

If you ask what is the difference, then I can tell you this God and all of you are having the same body structure. The only difference is that God have higher level of knowledge and wisdom, while you guys do not.

What is devote pray worship truly mean?

It is learning, studying and understanding about life, grow up like God.

And the life here is everything about Earth planet and the Universe environment. It is not just eat work sleep routine.

The term “sacrifice and burn” is just a small subject.

God do not recommend you burn and give anything, but what he really wanted you to burn are those stuffs not important and unused. Because those stuffs are blocking the flow of life energy.

If you look at the Eastern, you will notice they have burning paper ritual !

It is the process from the Infinite Energy Of Life to Human to back.

I can tell you the best ritual of modern era is burning all those stupid plastic clothes, chair, unused stuffs. Not animals nor human beings.

You will get richer, and have better chance of winning lottery number for sure !

And if you want to really understand about life, you should learn more about other religion teaching as well, that is a tough road.

If you want a quicker road, and want really understand whatever kind of Jesus’s teaching, I can explain to you but only when you guys asking at forum freejoy.aimoo.com, time limited to September 15th 2020.

This is a quick article gift for the Christianity.

Jesus won’t appear in public affair and comeback, there are many thousand beings have the level similar and above him are residing on Earth in many jungle mountain.

You do not just learn to follow the order, but you must learn why you doing it. If you only do but not truly understanding it correctly, then you are doing the wrong thing !

The ultimate purpose of all teaching is you must learn, study and grow like God !

Best Regard,

The Savior Messiah

Source: freejoy.aimoo.com

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This Entire Board

So is it safe to assume most of you adopted Christianity just so you could try and win some retarded culture war after fedora atheism stopped being trendy and don't have any serious spiritual convictions?

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Christian tv

What are some tv shows that are wholesome enough for a Christian lad to watch?

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I think if you uphold, for the sake of argument, T, U and L, then the I and P become even more apparently offensive to a Christian world view than taking down the L and working out from there. The reason being that if we grant T, U and L and believe that someone cannot come to Christ without receiving an effectual calling an provision of grace and cannot help but sin sins that God doesn't effectually will (compatibilism), Hebrews 6:4-8 would then suggest that God withdraws his grace from a professing Christian to realize the grievance or blasphemy of his own Holy Spirit! Surely this is repugnant to any Christian. And, as we say, this is not because Calvin or the WCF SAY this (why would they? Then again, the things Calvin actually said never fail to surprise), but because this follows necessarily from the I and P of Tulip which say the Christian will be dragged all the way to the kingdom and if not, God has not provided the grace to save him. In short, by steel-manning the first three points of the Calvinist TULIP, the implications of I and P in light of Hebrews 6, makes the only sin that God is involved with effectually, the insult towards the Spirit of grace of the former believer who falls away. Surely if there is any sin in particular, we would not want to impart to God, it is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, yet even within Calvinistic compatibilism, God effectually brings about this worst sin of all.

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Orthodox Methodism?

From my own instruction in the holy scriptures I feel that the most theologically correct form of Christianity is traditional Methodism. However some sectors of the Methodist world have given into blasphemous leftist propaganda such as faggot marriage among other issues. What are the most theologically orthodox forms of Methodism and where can I find them? I want to join the Methodists. I am non-denominational right now, former Roman Catholic.

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What are your thoughts on it?

The one verse that I will never understand, I suppose..

The language is precise, it is not a parable. It is a reference to an entity within the trinity, and a definite action, that if taken - will condemn oneself for eternity. No forgiveness. Ever.

There are no further instructions, stipulations, clarifications, citations, explanations, or mock-up scenarios.

To me, it seems like it would be best to not even inform a child of the holy spirit.. until he is over the age of 21, or older…

It seems more dangerous than driving a car/drinking/drugging. For crying out loud.

What are your thoughts?

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Dealing with sexual temptation

>every female under the age of 60 wearing really short shorts now


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Christ and Combat

Is Powerwolf acceptable here?

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Apologetics against paganism

Can we get a thread on Apologetics regarding neo-paganism? I feel like there's too much miss information and shills out there leading people astray.

Yes, i'm aware of the other Apologetics threads, but I feel like this issue requires special attention

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Why "Glitch?"

F.A.Q: "Why 'Glitch?'"

The Cambridge Dictionary defines the word 'Glitch' as, “a small problem or fault that prevents something from being successful or working as well as it should.”

Friends, I am not Glitch. You are not Glitch.

United, WE Glitch.

Imagine having thousands of 'small problems' which prevents something from being successful. Glitches most commonly are associated with 'Systems.'

Is "Glitch," my personal 'Brand?' sort of, but not really.. It's an idea which represents a Church that doesn't wait for 1 person to answer the call of standing against Satan's Empire; rather, all of us coming together, causing one small "Glitch" in the system at a time, and all of those things as a collective, work to entirely prevent the Anti-Christ System from functioning properly (if at all).

"on this rock I will build my church,

→ and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

(Matthew 16:18)

Glitches are sometimes caused when a System is hacked, and someone from the outside is able to cause a problem on the inside. What I mean is, do your research.. keep digging.

You are all Outsiders to this System (That's a good thing), but being an outsider doesn't stop us from having a meaningful impact on those who are insiders.

You can change the world, without becoming a part of it.

We just have to work together, and play our part.

So #UnitedWeGlitch isn't about me, nor is it a campaign to promote my page. It's a call-to-action. This is the Body of Christ, with such I would never do anything for me, but I will do everything for us- and I feel like if we all encouraged each other to play our small part… we would completely collapse this Anti-Christ System facing our Generation.

Reminder: The Cambridge Dictionary defines the word 'Glitch' as, “a small problem or fault that prevents something from being successful or working as well as it should.”

You don't cause a Glitch in the System by following me or sharing my posts.. You do it by being 'a small problem (or big problem, Lord willing) that prevents something from being successful or working as well as it should.'

The Church doesn't need more leaders, we have Jesus- but we do need more people to do their part. This Church will wake from its sleep, but only if you who are vigilant.. Glitch.

Not "all for one," but "one for all!"

If you already know the Corruption we face, then you were onboard the moment you learned of these horrid things.

Welcome to the #WeToo Movement.


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Old Testament War Conventions

"Do not make a covenant with them or with their gods."

- Exodus 23:32

"It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the LORD your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."

- Deuteronomy 9:5

"Then they devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword."

- Joshua 6:21

During my edgy atheist phase I used to think that the Old Testament was repulsive and barbaric and that God was an evil brute for commanding genocide. Later I re-read the Bible and saw that the nations and populations the Israelites were exterminating engaged in things like human child blood sacrifices. Then I look to more recent human history, specifically the Spanish conquest of Aztecs–another people that preformed human blood sacrifices.

The Amerindians were blood-thirsty savages with unrivaled sadism. Instead of completely exterminating the Amerindians of Mesoamerica and repopulating their lands with people of their own race as the Israelites of the Old Testament would have done, the Spanish chose to miscegenate with the Amerindians. Look at the people this miscegenation produced! Go on some gore website and see the s— cartels in Mexico and Central America do! This is what people with Aztec genes do. They carve people's hearts out like in this video:


If the Spanish had followed the war conventions of the Old Testament and completely replaced the Mesoamericans in the cultural and genetic sense, Latin America today would be like Spain the way the white communities of New England in the USA and Canada are like England. Low crime, wealthy, high IQ population and all the ways in which Spain is better than Latin America today. At worst it would be something like the wealthy parts of Argentina, Uruguay and Southern Brazil.

The moral of this story: Just because the information you need to be saved is in the New Testament, doesn't mean there isn't useful wisdom in the Old Testament that Christians can apply.

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I'm having death anxiety again

Could you guys reaffirm my faith?

Sorry for the reddit frog btw

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Sin in dreams

Does anyone else find it incredibly hard to repent while dreaming? Now there might be crazy situations in dreams where I might even kill someone (like you're a soldier in a war) and those seem to lack personal spiritual context. What I mean though is that you commit sexual fornication or you get angry and violent with someone even though you know you feel a certain conviction over these things.

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Historical Evidence for Christianity

Does anybody have a refutation of this video? Any solid evidence of Apostles being martyred besides what Mike Winger mentioned in his video (Peter, James the brother of Jesus, and Paul) and/or that these Apostles could have recanted, but didn't? What about for the resurrection? I am beginning to feel skeptical about Habermas' "minimal facts" argument and its variations.

I'm struggling with this right now. I still believe that an unmoved mover exists, but I have been leaning on historical arguments like these to justify my faith in Christianity specifically. Sorry that I'm asking to be spoon-fed, I'm feeling crestfallen right now and would appreciate a hand up.

Also historical evidence general, please post whatever you've got, and pray for me anons.

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Hell in orthodoxy

I'm new to orthodoxy. Do orthodox think hell doesn't exist ? Where are going bad people after death ? tx

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Paleotology is fake

They dig up a single fragment of a hip bone and then from that one broken piece they name an entire new species of ankylosaurus (pictured). They do this a lot, they show you artist renditions of perfectly recreated dinosaurs but they don't tell you that a good portions of these dinos are based on small fragmentary pieces of leg bones or something.

They can't even decide if Tarbosaurus is just T.Rex and they accidentally named a whole new species called Nanotyrannus which turned out to just be juvenile T.Rex specimens.

It's even worse with ancient sharks since they don't have bones and cartilage doesn't fossilize so they're literally just guessing what these things looked like based on teeth except on the extremely rare circumstances the imprints of their bodies are preserved in rocks.

I watched a bunch of videos about the "evolution" of hammerhead sharks cuz shark week and they admitted everything they thought they knew about the evolution of these fish was wrong. They were assuming the cephalofoils must have started out small and got progressively larger overtime and that the bonnet head must be the most primitive since it has the smallest head but they did genetic testing and it turns out the winghead shark, the one with the largest head is actually the most primitive and the bonnet head is the most recent and so the sharks all of a sudden evolved huge ass heads out of nowhere and they got smaller. LOL

Go watch any paleo video on youtube, after filling your head with a bunch of nonsense they always make sure to say "we don't know for sure", "this is debated among scientists" or "things could change due to new discoveries". They admit they have no idea what they're talking about. They cling to these guesses cause they're desperate to disprove Christianity.

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Judeo-Christian civilization

"Judeo-Christian civilization" : apart from a homily where John Chrysostom said (paraphrasing) either Judaism is true or Christianity not both, admitted for 100s of years, you'll notice that virtually all intellectuals who "made" European civilization were more or less anti Semites at the beginning of the last century this expression was in fact used, in academia, for the early Jewish converts to Christianity or "Judaizing" Christian sects (like the Ebionites).

The submission of the West to the Jews is probably the best indication of its decay but then the last "defenders of the West" are often homosexuals (Pim Fortyun in the Netherlands, Douglas Murray/Milo from the UK, etc) and the values mobilized are from liberalism (democratism, feminism, …) it makes sense : if you submit to the Jews you can *only* have homosexuals trying to "save the West" with liberalism.

Otto Weininger, himself an ethnic Jew who would commit suicide, made the connection between Jews/"femininity" (so homo./lib.) more than a century ago.

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Excerpt from The Golden Circle

Original excerpts authenticity can be proven by ownership of:


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I want my money back

This Book literally reads at like a 5th grade level. All the information is readily available by anyone who is already familiar with the tradcath scene. It’s short, the 33 chapters are only a few pages long, the print is big and doesn’t even take up the whole page as if it were intended to be read by people with poor eyesight and he straight up omits part of a quote from Pope Paul VI.

Also it smells weird. I doubt anyone was going to get it but if so don’t do it.

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Anderson YT Purge

Looks like they finally pulled the trigger on Steven Anderson.

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The Third Temple Is Already Up In Jerusalem Israel But People Do Not Know That

The Third Temple Is Already Up In Jerusalem Israel But People Do Not Know That

Source: freejoy.aimoo.com

The truth is that the third temple many the Jew people was and are waiting for is already there in Jerusalem Israel.

Look at the dictionary the meaning of Temple.

They are the place for people come to pray !

And now, look at the wall in Jerusalem, you will see many thousand people come to pray everyday !

The first and second temple may be big with big building structure.

But you can still call the third temple is just a small temple with just some brick wall alone.

Do you know the biggest temple on Earth is the Earth planet itself ?!

If you want to talk and compare with prophecy in old textbooks, I can tell you that the God of Israel and/or God in the Bible always give their point of view about something in life.

But most if not all people are still only trying do “decode” and use their knowledge level to “judge” those words, which is not a smart way. Just like what is cheap what is expensive meaning, the people have money tell that everything below 1 million is cheap, while the poor said everything above 1000 is expensive.

Even if God of Israel or God in the Bible said the Messiah is the Jewish but only from their view, but not your mortal human view.

Because what is a Jewish meaning?

The answer is up to each people understanding.

The smart people will say whoever know the Torah and have basic understanding about Jew people.

The stupid people will say they must work and live like us including pray, eat the same food, etc.

No matter what any entities, beings are saying, the eternal truth is the sky of Earth is a temple, the planet Earth is the most beautiful temple itself.

You can wait and gambling with your knowledge, I do not care, I just want to give you other point of view.

But as the real savior Messiah, I can guarantee with you guys that there won’t be any third physical temple being built in Jerusalem Israel like the first and the second one, because they are not necessary. Pray without any blocking concrete wall celling, straight to the sky is always better other place.

There is no any temple can be compared with the giant beautiful Earth planet itself.

If the Israel people really want to end the conflict with other nearby nations, they can only seek help from me the Messiah at forum freejoy.aimoo.com. But the time is very limited less than 30 days from now.

Best Regard,

The Savior Messiah

Source: freejoy.aimoo.com

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Why Calvinism?

>mfw Calvinists think accepting salvation is a work

>my Dad buys me a car

>I say thanks and look after the car

>apparently I did something here I can "boast in"

>The alternative is I say "PSYCH! you thought I was going to accept this car with gratitude. Nope. I'm going to exercise my free will instead, Dad!" and then I blow the car up, grieving him tremendously

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Degeneracy Harassed

A small part of me enjoyed seeing the gay normies harassed in this video.

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This confession contains a lifetime of mental illness. It's not gonna be easy but I'm sick of being paranoid about dying with all this on my soul. I've had 7 or more nightmares in the past year where either the sudden blood moon eclipse end of time or me suffocating and my life is slipping but either way while it's happening the feeling of fear and regret is overwhelming and I'm thinking "I'm not ready yet hurry get a priest here before I die". Reading this 5 page confession out loud is going to be the most cringe and awkward thing I've ever done and social anxiety is the reason why I've waited so long/makes it worse.

I don't think I'll come back after and tell you guys how better I feel because a bunch of catholic hating protestants will have flooded the thread with how filthy and wrong I am and would make me want to kill myself more.

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Wife's Christian Discord

This is my Wife's Christian Discord, feel free to join, I will be monitoring the server very closely.


Degenerates will be swiftly banned, God Bless.

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Four horsmen

Are the four horsemen being released?

The white horseman is plague which is obviously the coronaviurs.

The red horseman is empire division/civil war which is what's going on in the United States right now with the tigger riots.

The black horseman is famine and the United Nations is now predicting that due to the coronavirus and the locust hordes there is going to be a new famine unlike anything seen since the Great Chinese Famine. Tens of millions will die. They even said it themselves that it will be of "biblical proportions".

The pale horseman is of course death, an amalgamation of the other horsemen.

So are we at the end of time?

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Talk me out of sedevacantism

I can't reconcile the false ecumenism of Vatican II and the post conciliar papal claimants and how they fraternized with non-catholics and pagans esp the interreligious peace meeting in Assisi on October 27 1986. How does this not contradict Mortalium Animos? How can a Pope espouse this heresy of religious indifferentism and still retain his office? Does a Pope really lose his office by means of heresy? Saint Robert Bellarmine: “The Pope Manifestly a Heretic Ceases by Himself to Be Pope”

How does the new mass (along with lay Eucharistic ministers especially women and Communion in the hand) not contradict Quo Primum? Can a Pope bind his future successors as in did Pope Pius V bind Pope Paul VI with this Papal bull? Pius V doesn't specifically name a future Pope but does say it lasts forever and he does command "each and every Patriarch, administrator, and all other persons or whatever ecclesiastical dignity they may be, be they Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church, or possessed of any other rank or pre-eminence" to not use any other rite or missal or at least ones that is not grounded in a tradition that has lasted for a minimum of 200 years. Doesn't specify Pope but it does say any other rank or pre-eminence so would that include a successor Pope as well?

I haven't made a decision yet and I'm scared to go full sede but I'm also scared to embrace things that are questionable and I know are wrong.

I would just like to read some arguments against these claims. Links from traditional minded sources would be appreciated. I'm sorry for this post I'm just confused in need of guidance. The Rosary is the only thing helping me right now.

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The New Testament actually has a bunch of different Christologys

The Gospels portray different Christologys. Mark, the earliest Gospel, is Adoption. Jesus becomes divine at his baptism when he becomes united with the Holy Spirit, reflecting Jewish Wisdom traditions. Notice how in the original Greek Mark has the Spirit descends into (εἰς) Jesus, whereas Matthew has the Spirit descend on/upon (ἐπ') Jesus. This is reflective of Mark and Matthew's different Christology.

For Matthew, Jesus becomes Son of God at his conception when the Holy Spirit initiates this, likely reflecting beliefs about the femininity of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit being the Mother of Christ as we find in the non-canonical Gospel of the Hebrews. However, unlike Mark, Matthew makes a clear distinction between the Jesus and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19).

Luke's Christology is unclear, at first seemingly agreeing with Matthew in his infancy narrative and baptismal narrative, but also promoting an earlier form of Adoptionism than even Mark, that Jesus becomes divine at his resurrection and we see this in his applying the title "Kyrios" to Jesus at his resurrection which is further seen in Acts 10:37-38 when Christ is anointed by the Holy Spirit not at his baptism but at his resurrection. It seems that Luke's Christology doesn't rely on any particular tradition but is an attempt to amalgamate the different traditions concerning how exactly Christ was divine.

It is only in the last Gospel, the Gospel of John, that Jesus is fully portrayed as being pre-existence as the Logos, having been united to God's nature from the beginning and is thus in some sense the same as God, yet also is subordinate to God (John 14:28).

All the Gospels portray Jesus as a divine being, all the Gospels do portray Jesus as God in some sense, and the earliest traditions about Jesus portray him as being God, but how exactly he was God and how he became God was not clear to the early Church. Paul, for example, seems to espouse an early incarnation theology in Philippians 2:6-11 not too dissimilar from John but traces of an the earliest from of Adoptionism can also be found in Paul (Romans 1:4). What this suggests is that Christianity really began as an explosion of ideas, it isn't until the rise of Gnosticism when the mainstream Church began promoting orthodoxy in opposition to this as well as in opposition to Judaism. However, even well into the second century Adoptionism might have still been an acceptable posistion in the Church even if minority at that point as we see in the Shepherd of Hermas, a clearly Adoptionistic text which was nevertheless accepted as authoritative by many of the Church Fathers.

Denomination: Higher Criticism

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EXPOSED: Child sex trafficker.

There is a Pakistani man named “Asad Ali”. He is a child sex trafficker of Syrian refugee children, deceiving and luring young children to his home. Performing horrible sexual acts on them. His Kik is attached to this post. This man is also larping as a Muslim. He is a danger.

Kik: boardman416

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Three days ago, I saw someone in the supermarket. And today I saw the same person in the supermarket again. It's strange. I've seen him, but I've never actually talked to him. Why do I meet these people? There are countless other patterns. It's weird. This has been going on since I was in high school, and it's still going on. Oh no disgusting.

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So Christians think if you're at trial you should just confess and be totally honest and take the punishment. Even though every single person involved in the case up until that point lied to you and tried to manipulate you?

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Discuss. Does scripture support it?

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Thoughts on Christian Scientists?

>Christian Science originated in 19th-century New England with Mary Baker Eddy, who argued in her 1875 book Science and Health that sickness can be healed by prayer alone

>Adherents subscribe to a radical form of philosophical idealism, believing that reality is purely spiritual and the material world an illusion. This includes the view that disease is a mental error rather than physical disorder, and that the sick should be treated not by medicine but by a form of prayer that seeks to correct the beliefs responsible for the illusion of ill health

>Eddy viewed God not as a corporeal person, but as "All-in-all" and "infinite Spirit".

>Christian Scientists see Jesus as the "Way-shower" between humanity and God, and view Christian Science as based on the teaching and example of Jesus

>Christian Scientists accept as true the Genesis 1:1–2:3 creation narrative—that God created man in His image and likeness—but see the Adam and Eve story as allegorical rather than literal.[56] According to Bryan R. Wilson, at the core of Eddy's theology is the view that the spiritual universe is the only reality and is entirely good, and that the material universe, with its evil, sickness, and death, is an illusion; he stated that Eddy saw man as the "idea of Mind [God]" that is "perfect, eternal, unlimited, and reflects the divine", and what she called "mortal man" is simply humanity's distorted view of itself

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What's with priests supporting kiked psychiatry?

Lots of modern priests (including Ripperger unfortunately) recommend a (((mental health))) solution before a spiritual solution. This is satanic kike glowtigger crap not Christian. The Bible explicitly condemns drug use and puts it on the same level as witchcraft. And in Ripperger's case it's pretty strange to see. The guy firmly supports Aquinas' model of psychology over modern psychology yet still recommends people see modern psychiatrists. If this is the state of even the best priests of the church it's no wonder Satan has no problem with people being Christian. They just hand each other over to the kikes.

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The real meaning of 666.

The original bible has 73 books.

7 and 3 are holy numbers in the bible.

666 is the number of the beast.

the protestant bible has 66 books because the protestant leaders threw out 7 books from the real bible

73 -7 = 66.

66 books; man was created on the 6 day so 6 is the number of man.

Man threw out 7 books from the bible so its 66 for books and 6 for man so its 666.

Protestantism is literally satanism!

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Why does the Bible have evil?

I think I already know the answer. A book that people will blindly believe is perfect bait for evil people to come out of the woodworks and put their own agendas in it. So why is this tolerated? The sermon on the mount doesn't say be nice. It literally says let evil get away with injustice. You'd think if there are good individuals in humanity someone would step up and say "HEY THIS IS OBVIOUS MALICIOUS BS, GET THIS THE HELL OUT OF HERE!!!" But no one does. Everyone tells everyone else to blindly follow the Bible as if they're all evil people who want to make sure everyone else lets them get away with evil. I condemn humanity. Humanity is a demon deserving of hell and the real Jesus makes sure everyone gets what they deserve.

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KJV is the only true Bible.

The KJV unironically is God. Not the physical copies themselves but the words.

>"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

>John 1:1 (KJV)

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Is tomorrow a holy day of obligation?

It's the Assumption, right? Is it a holy day of obligation or is it covered by it being Sunday the next day?

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Shepherd of Hermas

Have you read the Shepherd of Hermas?

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How can Christians oppose racism?

How can Christians look at you with a straight face and claim racism is a sin? "Racism" is a term coined by Karl Marx to to exploit racial divisions in society. Before the baby boomers everyone was racist and none of them viewed it as a negative. I knew that generation, they were my grandparents. We've been brainwashed by "social scientists" (communists) for 3 generations to view racism as a negative. And the reason why is so that we ourselves could be exterminated. Right now we are being subjected to genocide. We have lost our rights and standing our our own society and about half of the white people in the Western world are actually fighting in favor of it. If we defend our lives from a tigger- we go to jail. If a tigger calls your work and says you're racist then you're fired. Whites are specifically excluded from many fields and from hiring for government positions. White are sent to the back of the line in college admissions. You can say anything about whites and not be subjected to censorship but if you say anything in defense of whites, you'll be banned.

Opposition to racism is about as satanic as it gets and Christians think it's a virtue. It's mind boggling.

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How do I forgive my enemies? I'm charged with crime and might have a criminal record soon. I really hate everyone that has been involved in the case.

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Infinity cup

if you guys are interested the newest icup is going on now and we are playing against /fascist/ at 20:30 utc tonight

the stream is at https://cytu.be/r/8cup

there is discussion of the cup at anon.cafe/icup

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A humble invite

The Crystal Palace opens its gates.

We are a small server of Christian morals primarily for intellectual pursuit and self-actualization, that caters to high IQ white men.

We host an omniversity coupled with a library complex for intellectual activities such as research, literature discussion, and studies into occult matters.

We host a männerbund for topics ranging from anything outdoors to craftsmanship and fitness.

We host a Christian church for theology, prayer and worship of our Lord.

And more will be added in the future. The Crystal Palace expands with an increasing population to accommodate necessity and preference.

The Crystal Palace is an explicitly anti-sjw community.


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Jehovah's Witnesses

What is their endgame?

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What is the definition of Christian fundamentalism?

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Demonic Lucid Dreams

I've never really been a religious person. Read the bible in my youth and visited several churches but wasn't really keen on it. I do believe in a higher power and that Jesus is the son of God who died for our sins however.

One aspect that has been haunting me however were the strange apparitions that been visiting me for a long part of my life during sleep. It was so bad at one point that i became an insomniac. After several years i figured a way to snap out of visitations by moving my limbs or finger. The visitations didn't stop but one recent encounter wasn't like the others which is why i want to know if there is a permanent solution to these things. Is it just my brain playing tricks on me or is really something demonic?

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Home church movement

What do you know about this movement? What do you think?

I stumbled across this neocities site that hosts a PDF, https://housechurch.neocities.org/

Just skimming their main points it seems very similar to Baptist ecclesiology with some points of emphasis. I don't think any Baptist would ever say you can't meet in a house, but this movement says you must.

It's encouraging and wholesome to see people putting their convictions out here in what's clearly a passion project.

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Christian State

Let's hypothetically imagine that a state similar to that of the idea of "Islamic State", but based on Christian principles would be formed, where would you draw it's starting point on the map of Europe be more easily implemented?

Would you join an armed fighting force to install such a Christian regime by way of battle?

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Revelation 17 - Does prophecy foretell that Islam will destroy Vatican?

Did Apostle Paul mislead Christians?

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Seeking for hope

Is there actually any fellow christian who can help person who is in very bad situtation?

I need money to food electricity, phone and internet (I also thousands of medical bills but they doesent kill me). I have my first ever welfare application going but it will takes ~10 days

>Born 199x

>Ok family

>9 student in school (very good 4-10 scaling)

>was expecting to be lawyer after army

>was sergeant in army thought about going officer school

>after army my stomach started hurt

<u have crohn and it is very bad no medicines will help and you will just starve we need to make stoma and surgery u constantly

<u also have clostridium difficeleand these antibiots wont cure you, so bad luck :(

>and oh nice now u have constat kidney stones too cause why winnie the pooh not

>sorry but we found rotten flesh inside you, we need to leave wound open and it will constantly bleed and hurts, otherwise it will rot again

>got very depressed

There was my ~24 years of live

Current: btc address bc1q5260l7uc84n5v243tmpa9z4ywkhdzp94m0ld8q

Current gmail where u can send paysafe cards. Justt buy from official site and send code euros pls: jaakko1209@gmail.com

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end times?

so is this new peace deal between uae and israel biblical prophecy? i thought palestine had to be involved in this some way. it seems a lot of people are saying this peace in the middle east is confirmation of the end times.

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Christians who suicide

What do you think about Christians killing themselves? Pic related was a Christian, was active in his church and still decided to end his own life. Why do they do it? Do you think they can lose salvation by doing so?

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How are you holding up?

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Jehovah's Witness AMA

Hey guys

I'll be answering any questions on our beliefs and where they are based on the scriptures.

I know we have some big differing opinions on somethings, but I hope we can all be civil. Also yes we believe in Jesus.

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Let the fire fall

We used to pray for the west's restoration.

Now let's pray for the churches safety within the west's destruction.

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Bible Reading Plan

On December 30, 1842, a Scottish Presbyterian pastor named Robert Murray M’Cheyne wrote a tract for his congregation titled “Daily Bread: Being a Calendar for Reading through the Word of God in a Year.” It laid out a reading schedule that, if followed, would take the reader through the entire Bible in a year, including the Psalms and New Testament twice.

Taken from https://www.wholesomewords.org/biography/bmcheyne5.html

Reading plan at https://www.wholesomewords.org/family/bibleread/sword.pdf

So why aren't we following a reading plan? Do all churches follow their own plan?

I know that the synagogues have the weekly portion of reading - the Parshah.

Any Jew can google it, and they can go into any synagogue, they'll know what they are reading.

I know that there are sects and differences in perspective between Christian and

Catholics, Protestants, whatever… Can't we all share on His Word and at least be unified in our own divisions? Can't we discuss our differences in love with our brothers, instead of each going his own way?

Let the Word be sang from the mouths of all

believers in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit at the same time, so that they may hear. Amen

What do you think, fellow christanon? Would a common reading plan be positive?

Would it unite or further divide the Church?

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Sin gluttony

Why Does the sin of gluttony get a free pass compared to the other seven deadly sins?

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Well, Christians, Did God Lie?

According to Genesis 3:

>To the woman he [God] said "…You will want to control your husband, but he will dominate you."

In first world countries (even some of the second), wives dominate over the husbands with the arms of the state, their financials, paternity, and the societal mob. Does this means what your God said isn't a universal, objective truth?

>Hurrrr durrr you sexist

Ultimately, you're calling God sexist if you just thought that, I'm only pointing out what the bible says.

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Pentecostals are the worst

Honestly Pentecostals are just the worst, I don't even know if they can be considered Christian, they're full of demonic babbling and false miracles. The world would be a much better place of God just shrunk them all to a couple inches tall and rid us of their stupidity.

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Gods test

God created this. He is testing you to see what you do. The answer looks like nothing. This would not happen 30 years ago. Compliance is acceptance. You failed the test. Your punishment is to live in the hell earth has become.

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The new Gods

With China becoming the new dominant power, capitalism replacing spirituality, and youth turning away from the church where does that leave Christianity?

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Abortion is society fault

A woman turns to abortion because they have been abandoned by society. You are as much at fault for the death of the baby as the mother, Dr, and Democrats. Stop creating hostile violent environment for women. Stop supporting a legal system and economy that leads to single parent households. Stop trying to solve this with hate and instead show them they are not alone. This is the last thing they want to do.

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Jesus Christ

Post the most accurate looking Jesus Christ

> Results may vary

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Why doesn't John mention demons?

They are real, aren't they?

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Christian Politics

Should a Christian vote for Trump or not vote at all. Biden is not an option but I don't support Trump.

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Moving Past Apologetics

How does a Christian move past the "dunking on atheists/non-Christians" phase of knowing about Christianity and move toward actually living out a Christian life?

That seems to be my biggest issue. A sense of intellectual "pride" knowing that I am defending God from His detractors and blasphemers, without actually living a decently Christian life.

If my question is unclear, let me know. Catholics most welcome, other Christians welcome as well (as long as you aren't militant Protestant).

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Do not kneel for anyone but the Lord

Dear brothers and sisters, darkie making his presence here with you again.

For The LORD hates a heart that devises wicked plans, a false witness who breathes out lies, and who sows discord among brothers.

Do not blasphemy the Lord by kneeling to others, do not bear false witness.

Darkie loves you, may God bless you.

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Board Watch Party


We will be streaming The Chosen at https://cytu.be/r/8christian

>The Chosen is a television drama based on the life of Jesus Christ, created, directed and co-written by American filmmaker Dallas Jenkins. It is the first multi-season series about the life of Christ, and season one was the highest crowd-funded media project of all time.


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Do Not Disrespect our Lord

Dear brothers and sisters, darkie here with you again. The issue of face diaper is an Asian thing going back 4 decades, even Michael Jackson had a face bag on a decade ago. Please do not appropriate freak cultures by having face diaper in the house of our Lord Jesus Christ. It is very disrespectful for you to that.

I have proof for you. https://qz.com/299003/a-quick-history-of-why-asians-wear-surgical-masks-in-public/

A quick history of why Asians wear surgical masks in public

November 19, 2014 <<<< SEE THIS brothers and sisters?

Darkie loves you, God bless you all.

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A reminder that

Christians don't and oughtn't to sleep around.

>It's just women that are effected

It takes at least two, kid.

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logos and stoicism

Insightful vid from the unaboomer

He doesn't discuss the possibility of negative influences of stoicism into Christian theology when he could have imo

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The Jewish Question

Is the Final Solution to the Jewish Question part of the end times?

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Muslim AMA


I'll be answering any and all questions concerning Islam.


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I've gained an attraction to femboys




I need some advice on what to do, I keep having these conflicting feelings and I just don't feel like it's right. My family asked about my attraction and I keep saying that I'm straight. But everytime I get these weird feelings and I keep falling back into this love and lust problem until I snap back. I'm really having trouble, what should I do?

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Why does the mental illness community shill consensus reality so hard?

All the psychiatrists tell them rejecting consensus reality is "psychosis" and claim you CANNOT be healthy unless you accept mob rule over your beliefs. I went through some pretty bad depression and it only ended once I stopped believing things everyone told me. Last year, it started up again and I noticed it started at the exact same time everyone stopped calling me synonyms for crazy. Conforming to consensus reality destroyed my confidence and happiness. Spending time universe building and rejecting the golden cows of the majority made me feel better. Yet psych jews and the vulnerable people who fell for their lies claim I have to do the opposite of what made me happy to be happy. They don't care about results. They just have a narrative they want you to believe is truth.

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Lust, I cannot take it anymore. How do I return?

Porn addiction has eaten away at me for the past half decade, ruining my spiritual life every three days or so. Sending me off to tears every three days or so. Sending me into a spiral of self admiration, pride, and wondering why I deserve the good things that come with abstaining even for a little while

I live life like a non believer! As long as an impulse goes

Part of me says, you can always repent later! But in the moment I refuse to see this is the most damning thing possible. All concern for my salvation is cast aside and I emerge from the moment unable to defend why I should draw further breath. I have become entirely diseased, more disrepair than man.

I want to hang my head and say, all the same, “I’m sorry. I don’t want to be a pervert anymore, etc” but I am not so innocent! My sin is astronomical. I quickly relapse on porn some days ago, calmly and firmly resolve not to stress unwarranted, simply to try henceforth. I never tried, truly, I think. Here I am listening to…. I know we don’t usually discuss what’s what, but I’ll say it. bdsm hypno on youtube for an hour, and I get interrupted by a family member coughing loudly after choking on something, I distress and get rid of everything, also inside myself, get back to bed and immediately return to evil thoughts as I repeat “I’m sorry” again and again, and this is not the worst thing I’ve done in recent history. The natural order is obscured, there are times everything reminds me of the perverted pathways I have laid. Perverted reasoning, which I KNOW obstructs the truth, yet I can’t see the truth. I block out any image or thought of goodness, out of fear of perverting it in my eyes, too.

I have become so slothful and negligent in my religious life that the smallest things are obstacles for me, I barely get anything done. I refuse to pray, or fill my life with Christian things, for I get FEARFUL I lose my zeal for them by emerging from such a lowly and frustrated moment to run to them. I feel I couldn’t face the Icons after what I’ve done, and I continue to, even as I wake up the next day, and just live life like anyone….

I’ve not even been baptised yet. How many of you can say in any way you’re glad you haven’t been baptised yet? For if I was,

for if I already was, I wouldn’t have the hope of the end of this person I carry and am today. How would you feel knowing that you would go to hell, today, if it were up to you, and you were to die? I am usually far more scrupulous - but all there is to cope escapes me. There is not a song in the world, a sentence to describe, not a suffering available to me now to pay, I feel, and this is the thousandth time I’ve felt this way. More and more moments I feel the struggle, the call, the glimpses into the natural world of glorification and goodness and light, which I currently am aware of entirely escapes me and will continue to escape me… more and more I find myself in situations where I know, should I not have sinned, something would be occurring, a realization on my path, a precious moment in time, an opportunity to praise, or cultivate something, or remember back, or anything. I sound vague - but I am in pain.

How do you do it? How do you cope? I can’t dignify my existence. I am ruined, I’ve given myself tics, nervous system damage trying to ache my way through somehow - show, somehow, I care, I’ll repent - I am the man who has recieved the most gifts in the whole world, and I have wasted every second of my life during the day all this time. I do not mean to despair, but I do certainly mean to ask - what can I do? As you may take away, I don’t lie when I say, I can’t take it anymore! Lord have mercy upon me, the sinner.

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Young Korean Artist Paints Pictures Of Her Visit To HELL

Something it found that it thought it would share.

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Reason and Faith: A Discussion

Thoughts on the relationship between faith and reason?

I know Catholics have this hard on about Aristotle and Aquino but you cannot name a single person who was brought to the faith because of "the validity of the ontological argument" or whatever. Faith is almost always based on a a revelatory experience of Christ. On this account I agree with Evangelicals that a "born-again" (maybe not those exact words) experience is a a central part of being a Christian.

We can also talk about reason as a faculty and the way it leads one astray from not only faith ironically all rational thought in the first place. This became very apparent at the end of the 18th century among certain German thinkers like Hamann and Jacobi whose readings of Spinoza and Hume demonstrated the absolute poverty of reason and science when a meta-criticism of the enlightenment's own principles was undertaken. Indeed, reason couldn't prove the existence of an universal and objective morality or how natural science could even be possible, let alone the existence of God or the immortality of the soul.

The choice was clear: either nihilism or fideism. Hamann, Jacobi, and later Kierkegaard chose Fideism.

I also choose Fideism because ultimately Reason is a whore, and you have to make a about a million assumptions about science for it be metaphysically significant rather than just instrumental.

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Where Did All The Religions Come From & Why Most People Do Not Understand Me The World Savior

Source: freejoy.aimoo.com

Where Did All The Religions Come From & Why Most People Do Not Understand Me The World Savior

All the languages, religions on Earth are not made by mortal humans at that timeline.

It was made by above mortal human level: some beings are immortal gods, demigods, some beings from previous civilization and some beings are self evolution at that time.

Now what ever subject you want to debate with each others, you must use sacred old teaching & textbook, and real life result. You cannot said this theory, this ideology is “good” for humanity because you think so.

In order to have a “better” world you must:

1. define what exactly is a “better” world.

2. able to explain old religion teaching with action language along with real life examples.

If you cannot have correct answer for just 2 questions then all of the “theory” are meaningless.

Many of you do not understand me the world savior for whatever reason.

I have a feature like any search engine online, but in order to have a correct solution you guys must typing, tell what you are looking for and ask.

In real life, you cannot have the answer you are looking for just by opening your web browser and expect the search engine give you the answer without typing !

Many religions have some requirement activities such as “pray” and “worship”, but that rule do not apply to me. I am not want any of you to “pray” or “worship” me because I already have unlimited power already.

The real reason why “pray” and “worship” exist in many religions are:

- Remind people to study old religion sacred textbook.

- Receive the “blessing” or some small help from those beings you are “worship”.

I am not going to appear on all people eyes, display all kind of super abilities and give direct immortals life formula for all because that it is not the way of the infinite life in the Universe. The only way I will communicate with you guys is via online internet.

If you remember the religions time line and events, you will see the teaching come from direct in-person like Jew, Buddhism, Taoism to indirect via telepathy in Islamic and others.

What is the most highest level religions out of top 10 most popular religions at the moment?

Do any of you even have any answer.

I can reveal to you that is the Buddhism.


Because many monks corpse after burning, the result are not the dust like the rest but are some beautiful gemstones.

It only happened because they did follow the “right” leader Gautama Buddha, the one who know the secret of the infinite life in the Universe.

What I will do if have opportunity is unlike many other old teaching in all religions.

I am not going to preaching with boring words.

All I will do is redesign the social life system and help you guys archive/understand the secret human body, human life through exercises, activities. Or in short is real life experience. But of course with only beings who really want to know.

If you want me the verify my identity, all you need is just to ask me whatever question you have in life. Not just some boring text theory but with real life experiment result as well if you want to.

I still keeping the best of best knowledge and wisdom till now.

Find me at freejoy.aimoo.com.

Best Regard,

The Savior

Source: freejoy.aimoo.com

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Explaining the Trinity

How do you effectively explain the trinity to non-christians without falling into modalism or some other heresy, especially since the fullness of the trinity is a mystery in itself and can never be fully comprehended?

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Israel drops nuke on Lebanon

Israel is dropping nukes on Lebanon now. More proof that we are approaching the end.

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Tensta church

Visited Tensta Church, Sweden, the other day. Just wanted to share some pics.

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Sins of the day

Hello brothers in faith,

im new to the catholic believe and a question is, how i should handle daily sins? Should i avoid this sins? Or pray for forgiveness? With daily sins i mean, white lies, swearing and so on. Im desperate, because i cant answer me this qustion. Because we are here to sin, but should i avoid sin or be a humen and accept the fact, that i sin?

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Telling poeple to f uck off

Please tell there is scripture that says it's okay to tell someone to f u c k off? The world hates Christ, There is always people who speak in bad faith with disgusting creativity who deserve to be dismissed in a vulgar way.

>Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

>Matthew 10:14,15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet…

>Proverbs 9:8 Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

>Proverbs 23:9 Do not speak to a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of your words.

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The Anabaptists are so winnie the poohin' based. I honestly might join them. I'm sick of this world, I'm disgusted by how degenerate it is. These are the elect though, they are being spared from the plagues that God has sent on us.

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FACE DIAPER is an Asian thing going back 4 decades. It's a stupid thing by godless people and it's very disrespectful to wear it in the house of God.

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Upload an image to this site & AI will generate a sound.


Here's mine:


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How to approach cheating dad with love in Christ (Advice)

Hey, sorry to stop lurking to post, but I honestly just need some Christian encouragement and advice. I'm almost entirely positive I just caught my dad cheating on my disabled mom, and He's going to be going to church and playing in the band tomorrow. I'm going to talk to our pastor tomorrow, but I was wondering how I would approach the subject from a Christian angle with someone who's so Christian on the surface and yet does something so evil in private. I love my dad, and he loves me (I think). I'm still young, only just an adult, live with him. Again, any advice or encouragement is appreciated. (Synod is WELS/ELS btw, but am pretty open to Orthodox/Catholic practices, so all, feel free, pls) (also pic related, it's a snap I sent to a few close friends abt what happened leading to my discovery)

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The Law cannot save you!


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I think Barack Obama is the AntiMashiah

The other night I had a dream, where I saw Barack Obama as the AntiMashiah and next to him was "Michael" Obama, who was a demon, and he attacked me changing the shape of his eyes and arms. I am not sure if where we were was Jerusalem, but what I do remember is that the AntiMashiah was located in a place and from that place he commanded the instantaneous construction of a strange pyramid with one eye on the top. And under this pyramid was him.

What do you think?

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Why is this board so anti-protestant?

Is there any argument against protestants other than "muh Peter"?

Judaism was shit and utterly corrupted by the time Jesus was born and he utterly destroyed it. Now, I realise Luther is no substitute for Jesus but the catholic church was shit and utterly corrupted and it was time it was reformed. If something was corrupted by Satan, would you still follow it because Jesus did not descend and explicitly tell you to stop worshipping it?

Besides, their catechesis and the five solae make a lot of sense. Their communities are nice and helpful and not as rigid and strict. They have no mentally ill communist pope. They have no pedo-priest problems.

So why would I not want to be a protestant in the year of the lord 2020?

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Podcast: Prophetic dreams reveal an event worse than 9/11 could be coming soon.

This 78-minute message presents prophetic dreams received by several people showing an event worse than 9/11 could be coming soon. Their warning dreams reveal bombs, grenades and missiles striking in heavily populated areas of the United States.


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For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.

Why do the people of the true Elohim continue with blood sacrifices and rituals? Why do they keep taking life from creation to supply worldly pleasures? Why do they kill innocent beings who were created to accompany man and not be his food? Where is the mercy, love and compassion?

Isaiah 1: 11-14

11 What is the use, says YHWH, of the multitude of your sacrifices? I am weary of burnt offerings of rams and fat of fat animals; I do not want the blood of oxen, sheep, or goats.

12 Who demands this from your hands when you come to present yourselves before me to tread my courts?

13 Bring me no more vain offering; incense is an abomination to me; new moon and Sabbath, calling meetings, I can not suffer; your solemn feasts are iniquity.

14 Your new moons and your solemn feasts are hated by my soul; they are burdensome to me; I am tired of bearing them.

Genesis 1: 29,30

29. Then Elohim said: 'Look! For all the land I give them as food every plant that bears zera and every tree with fruit that bears zera.

30. And to every wild animal of the earth, and to the creatures that fly in the sky and to every creature that crawls on the earth, in which there is the breath of life, I am giving as food all kinds of green plants. ' And this is how it was.

Ecclesiastes 3:19, 21

19. Because what happens to the children of men, and what happens to the beasts, the same event is: as some die, so do others die, and all have the same breath; nor has man more than the beast; because everything is vanity.

20. Everything goes to the same place; everything is made of dust, and everything will return to the same dust.

21. Who knows that the spirit of the sons of men ascends above, and that the spirit of the animal descends down to the earth?

Jeremias 22:16

16. They did not understand, they did not judge the cause of the afflicted, nor the cause of the poor, is not this not knowing me? YAHWEH says.

Hosea 6: 6

6. Because what I want is mercy, not sacrifices, knowledge of Elohim more than burnt offerings.

Hosea 8:13

13. When they offer sacrifices to me, they are only meat for them to eat, now He will remember their iniquity - and He will take revenge on their sins. they will return to Mitzrayim, and eat unclean things among the Ashurim.

Isaiah 1: 15-17

15. When you extend your hands, I will turn my eyes from you; no matter how much they beg me, I won't be listening; because his hands are full of blood!

16. Wash until clean! Remove your iniquities from your souls before my eyes! Stop your iniquities !;

17. Learn to do good! Diligently seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, defend the orphans, obtain justice for the widow.

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Yahshua Ha Mashiah is coming, are we ready?

The messiah returns, the hour of Adon is at the gates. Will we be spiritually ready for his arrival? Have we abandoned all idolatry, all sexual immorality, all lies? Do we have Yahshua as a priority in our lives? Will our tree bear fruit or will it be thrown into the unquenchable fire?

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Should Christians participate in conflict or war?

Okay I understand self defense and spiritual warefare (like the global war in christians in persecution which we can talk about for thr another time)

But should christians participate any offensive war whether it be in the middle east defending israel or going to venezula, to china or pretty where ever even if you were to deny or refuse even if it costs you your livelyhood unable to feed the family or going to jail or forced what should you do?

Despite of Jesus commands not to kill and I dont think he even mentioned war and what to do.

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Statistics Thread

Dumping my collection

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I'm a darkie.

Please don't wear face diaper in church out of respect for God. And only kneel for God.

Please listen to me because I'm a smart darkie. Most darkies are very stupid, I know because I'm also a stupid darkie. Trust me I'm very stupid.

So now I got your attention, I'll tell you the face diaper thing was fashionable with Asians at least 2 decades ago. Yes, I'm absolutely not wrong with this. But I don't think I'm wrong either that it started 4 decades ago, yes four.


A quick history of why Asians wear surgical masks in public

November 19, 2014 <<<< SEE THIS brothers and sisters?

Nobody is dumber than Asians, I assure you because I'm a darkie so I know. Why are you brothers and sisters as dumb as Asians now?

So stay home, don't wear a mask in church. Respect the lord and he will make you smarter.

I love you all, God bless.

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Top five New Age teachings in the church

Apparently i had a New Age teaching and i didn't even know it, it was "all roads lead to God" for me. Here is an interesting video on the subject.

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1953 Accuracy?

Where can I download a full .pdf copy of the 1953 Afrikaans bible? It has gone out of print and the New Age Bibles available in Afrikaans are corrupt!

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Women are beautiful. The devil makes them insecure and gives distorted standards so he can control t

Women are being used and then they control them. They are the ones who dominate the betacucks. Women are at the front lines for the devil right now, and they are pegging betacucks.

The devil hates disorder. A woman in charge is the epitome of disorder. Women are supposed to be beautiful and sacred. You have a bunch of wacky witches with plastic surgery who hate themselves. They are the arbiters of reality who set the false standards and they are the brainwashed. Pathetic men who are not of god have allowed this. It is time to set things back into balance. Men are close to god and are supposed to show women the way to god and show them how beautiful they are without all this crap they put on themselves because the devil has them convinced they aren't good enough.

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Pope here.

It is not your lot in life to think.

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New Evidence points to

Check out this information…

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Relationship general

Post your successes/troubles.

The responsibility is yours. Since you're the man you are the driving force behind starting a relationship. It is your job to do the first move as it is to lead all other moves.

Women seek stability. A woman is like a flower that grows towards God. A man is more like a stick. He can direct the married couple towards God. If both of them are flowers, then they stay in mud.

>Be yourself

Be confident about who you are. It will give you a special aura around yourself

>Work on your confidence

Start at nofap thread, eliminate porn and masturbation from your life. Increase your testosterone levels by working out…./fit/

>Get hobbies

If you lack interests, you are less interesting to women. Women want men of action.

>Visit places where high quality women hang out

Church, library, your hobbies…

>Become more educated about your faith

If you want a good Christian girl you should study scriptures. If she takes her faith seriously she will probably be impressed.

Your future wife probably will not just appear out of nothing and ask you out. It is your job when she appears all of sudden to be confident enough to ask her out and handle that situation.

Purity thread:


If any of you guys have some useful meta, please post it so we can include it in the future to the OP.

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Is this accurate?

Is this accurate?

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Christianity and Ethnocentrism

Why are there so many Christians on this site who are also white-nationalists/alt-rightists of some kind? They may not be a majority, but they're clearly a sizable group.

I honestly and truly can't stand these people who are basically Christian because they see it as counter-culture. You know, the deus-vult types. These people clearly just see Christianity as an identitarian religion and as a way to support their edgy political views and antisemitism, they don't have any real spiritual conviction. It's like atheism stopped being trendy so being a zoomer tradcath/nrx is the new way to go. It doesn't bother me too much outside of the internet because these people will never hold any real power in any church, and their ideas are largely just pseudo-theology that nobody will take seriously. But when I see people like them it genuinely angers me, and I feel embarrassed to identify as a Christian.

Their version of Christianity is some uncucked/alpha/redpilled/nationalist religion where we get to engage in racial holy war and exterminate all nonwhites. Ignoring the fact, of course, most Christians around the world are nonwhite and people they would consider subhuman.

Christianity is not about defending your epic based and redpilled political views, convert to some larpy form of paganism if you want that.

Sorry that went on for so long but I really needed to vent. Pic not really related.

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exegetical studies

What are some uncucked and good exegetical studies of the bible and especially the new testament? (that are also available on libgen or online somewhere)

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Christian beliefs questionnaire

I thought I'd make this fun questionnaire to see what most people here believe on certain topics. You can fill in your answers in whatever way you want as long as it's clear what your answer is.

I hope this will also encourage some healthy debate and maybe expose some false doctrines and beliefs that are being spread around.

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Exploring the dark side

Does anyone else find themselves feeling closer to god by researching the occult, demonology, and secret societies? I know people who became Christians after exploring the dark rabbit hole of pizza gate.

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Jordan Peterson?

So how do you guys feel about Peterson? Have you guys watched his lectures on the Bible? He interprets it through a psychological/Jungian lense. Apparently he considers himself a Christian despite saying he doesn't believe in God although he is "afraid he might exist" and he also says he is agnostic about the resurrection of Jesus but believes that because Jesus became such an embodiment of the Logos concept/archetype that this may have somehow influenced his physical body in such a way that he may have actually resurrected.

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The best and most underrated bible version

New here and would like to know what you guys think of this version of the bible? Here's my story too

>be me last year

>was spiritually awakened falling for the New Age meme

>started doing chakra meditation, got into crystals, bought a singing bowl

>ended up getting sleep paralysis for the first time, saw the dark shadow figure

>apartment got plagued by insects and spiders when I tried opening my 3rd eye

>despite all doors and windows sealed bugs kept coming from nowhere

>got scared and did some research, found out New Age is the occult in disguise

>wanted to find the opposite of this evil, was led to Jesus

>was eager to learn more and gave Christianity a serious chance

>watched Steven Anderson's soul winning video and did the prayer at the end

>spoke in tongues for a couple words during the prayer at the end

>felt the presence of the Holy Spirit for the first time, unlike anything I felt during new age

>knew this was all real and bought a KJV bible since it seems the most based

>turns out autism + mild dyslexia + old english = couldn't understand anything

>prayed to God to lead me to the best version for me out of like 50 that exist

>compared all bibles with certain bible verses in a process of elimination

>The Voice ended up the winner

I can't express enough how much I love this bible, it's absolutely perfect for someone like me. I have little to no experience reading books for long periods of time but this bible I read 30 minutes daily no problem. In case you're wondering which bible verses I compared, I eliminated any bible that had "thou shalt not kill" rather than murder and looked for any that had the proper translation "in the age of ages" rather than "forever and ever" of Revelation 20:10.

Only 6 English translations have the word ages instead of "forever and ever" https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Revelation%2020:10

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Was Jesus Black?

I see some people say that Jesus actually had black skin. Are they right?

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Why is the Bible wrong if it's God's word?

>the Bible says other nations will learn from the mistakes of a fallen fellow nation

What actually happens is even though White nations who embrace degeneracy are suffering ethnic death and a nosedive in terms of quality of life other White nations still continue to embrace gay rights, abortion, and mass immigration.

>the Bible says the good people will leave fallen nations and not repeat their mistakes

What actually happens is Californians move to other states and continue to vote for the same degenerate destructive policies they did in their state.

Why is the Bible so blatantly wrong about this?

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Ministry on Youtube

What do you guys think of Tim Conway and his ministry? He has always helped me in my walk with God. I think he is a tremendous servant.

Recommend good youtube ministry here if you want.

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Gnosis is the only way to salvation

You are deceived by Yaldabaoth, the man Jesus is but a fleshly copy of the the Son who is Christ-Sophia and they generate the primordial man, Anthropos, but fallen Wisdom had an abortion who is the false god you worship, and he is arrogant, thinking he is the only god who exists, yet he will be defeated. Stop living, life is an abomination, death and the world of lights is the only escape.

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The absolute state of the Episcopal church

Openly fag Episcopal "priest" physically runs away when moderately challenged on being anti white


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Does Paul contradict Christ?

The other day I was debating with a Muslim and he even said that Paul contradicted Jesus. I never really thought much about it, so I took Holy Scripture and apparently there are contradictions (in my view, but this could be wrong, as I'm a very dumb guy). The biggest problem is not the contradictions themselves, but that if what Paul says is false, then Jesus Christ is not God, as apparently it's only in Paul's books that Jesus begins to be treated as God and not just any generic prophet. This argument may be very easy to refute, but it has been troubling me for days and I couldn't find much information about it on the internet. Could any of my fellow christian brothers explain it to me better?

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Is Genesis Figurative or Literal?

Was man really made out of dust? Was woman really made out of a rib? I don't know what to believe anymore.

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Catholics think Our Sister Mary is Eve...What?

She's more like dirt.

That is the dirt found in Genesis 2 for the creation of Adam with the breath of life (the Holy Spirit). The actual Eve is Christ's bride: the congregation of God's people. Amen.

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Why are you Christian?

What made you choose Christianity, or were you always Christian?

Personally i grew up christian, but was angry at God for childish and petty reasons. That lead me to being an edgy atheist as a teen. Now that it have a better understanding of God, i know what to look for when God manifests himself. Learning about the satanic secret societies that the world's richest people participate in has given me clarity for an old anti-establishment rebellion. Family is also a strong value of mine, and Christianity protects the family.

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Why "There will be no more death" will only apply to humans

It's my understanding that in heaven and the new earth, we will still be able to eat food. In heaven there's the marriage supper of the Lamb, and in the new earth I assume we'll live like we do here on earth but better and without pain, sin, death, etc.

We won't need food to survive but for pleasure because it is good. You might be thinking to yourself "we'll eat plants, fruits, and vegetables like in the garden of Eden", but then I ask, will we eat plants alive?

Will plants not die when we harvest them, cook them, eat them and digest them? Plants are just as much alive as we are and animals are.

>"He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Notice the word "their", who is they? They are we, God's people. Not all life, not all of creation. Plants and animals don't go to heaven or hell after they die, they have no memories, no consciousness, no self awareness. Their lives aren't designed to be eternal like human's are, they don't worry about the afterlife. Could you imagine how overcrowded heaven would be if every animal that died went there? Every insect, every farm animal, even every plant.

I'm sure animals we kill in the new creation won't feel pain, maybe there'll be a new and instant way to kill them too, who knows. But what I do know is there will be food and that includes meat.

>"Everything that *lives and moves* about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." - Genesis 9:3

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Christian movie reviews

Especially if there are kids in your house, do you use any of these? There's so many options I wonder how they compare.

We were watching Pixar's "Onward" today and there was a totally unnecessary reference to lesbianism and I had an idea for a site that seeds Disney movies available for torrent without the perversities. These review sites already document everything objectionable and you could just cut it out.

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"Anyone who preaches forgiveness as a virtue is planning on doing something evil."

How do you respond to this?

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anything i can do about blasphemy?

I winnie the poohed up while I was drunk, been winnie the pooh up for a fat minute. I like to act like a schizo online to mess with people when they're being dumb and was very sleep deprived and very drunk and decided to test it out irl. Don't quite remember everything but I know it involved reincarnation and god and I don't have enough of a firm grasp of the gospel to say anything about it in general. I know its supposed to be unforgivable but is it really? Idk just worried rn.

pic unrelated

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Jesus appearance.

Jesus probably looked something like this.

>inb4 /pol/ screeches

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Itt post "hmm"

A story in two images

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The Inside/The Outside

There's a disturbing number of people here giving advice that simply isn't good. It's not just that it's not good, it's downright bad. In the thread with the guy dealing with homosexuality, there's a lot who think this is an outward problem. There were various suggestions, telling him to exercise more, think how disgusting sodomy is, etc., and none of this is actually given in a Christian manner, it appears. You're going by worldly ways. If the advice you all had given worked, trust me, the world would know by now.

If you have a problem that is mental, physical or spiritual that you wish to deal with, the most obvious way, you'd think, would to come boldly before the Throne of Grace. Seek God. Talk to Him, understand him where He is guiding you. Too many are too happy to give advice that neglects we must clean the inside first. Exercising won't do that, seeing how disgusting something is won't do that, that's already crossed his mind.

If you want your advice to be effective, then get scripture to understand, which I've noticed in that same thread most of you refuse to even acknowledge exists. As Christians, we are not of this world, but the the advice you give is purely of this world. How do you know what God wants to do? Having never dealt with it, a homeless man may as well be asked for his homeless wisdom because you refuse to understand the issue, or look at others who dealt with it. Literally, I saw some idiot who tell those who have they're wrong. What a prideful person. You act like experts, but refuse to even consider what God's point of view is on it. Maybe there's something else going on that you all are missing?

I'm going on a rant, but I want to end it with this: it's nice to help, to want to help, but we need to come boldly to Christ. If you're giving advice that neglects input from God, you're refusing to seek His power, but, more importantly, you're not growing yourselves. Seek God and if you don't hear anything, let those who know a little bit better answer and humble yourselves.

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KJV Revisions

There are a number of updated versions of the KJV. Here's the short list of ones I've found. There are even more but out of print or fringe objectives.

The general goal is to retain the translation while updating archaic language. Sometimes they're a passion project by one man or sometimes a large publisher is behind it.

The biggest reason to use one of these in my opinion would be if you believe the Textus Receptus NT & Masoretic OT are the best manuscript sources but you want better readability. History has it that the KJV is the best and most revered TR tradition in English. Some of these additionally use more recent developments in manuscripts though, like NKJV, but will have inline or footnote alternate readings.








Most popular

Thomas Nelson Publishers







1962-1998 (revisions)



Public Domain







"Copyrighted for the sole purpose of protecting the text from alteration"

2016 (obviously)



Public Domain


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Christians are slowly becoming more and more persecuted in america and the media isn't reporting these things.

What the hell are you always days or hours late?!


>Lol who cares anon they are destroying statues and buildings

You do realize this is against Christ and Christians and it would get worse?


>Lol is just catholics being under attack

You do realize they are going to eventually attack other Christians as well right?

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Christianity is underappreciated

I recently found out that people underappreciated Christianity these days. Like you see Nihilist roaming the streets and consooming stuff and you see the degeneracy especially in the west where it is prevelant. Ok I've made my point thanks for reading it

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Please help me bros

I have a strange predicament; or at least a painful one. I'm a slothful man, but fear it's become too true of a sentence for me and too great a part as well. I'm also a vain man who knows he has to repent but gets himself in such situations that everything is much harder than it needs to be.

It bothers me knowing the ascetic feats of the Church fathers, Saints and elders, and everyone who came before us who had a more robust constitution and life than us, it bothers me knowing I haven't the strength to complete even the simplest task, that I can't do all night vigils, or even set aside an hour of prayer or reading Christian books or literature and follow the appointed task without procrastinating or outright failing. It bothers, and perhaps further prevents me from actually having manliness of the heart, or taking action, or do anything other than be pitiful and waste time always halfway grasping at sin regardless. When I sin, I feel I am not worthy to partake of these things, which are good and we must partake of, and always procrastinate until later when I've resisted sinful thoughts in small ways over the course of say, two or three days - before temptations grow strong again with this particular sin, I can attain a breather upon the third or fourth day, and not feel as calloused when engaging in Christian things.(Meaning less desensitized, more ready to see the beauty in things; it also bothers me that when I sin and I look upon an Icon, a Church, anything that is truly good and feel so little compared to usual, knowing exactly what I have brought upon myself) My problem lies herein however; every time this happens, by the time I deem circumstances maybe alright to focus on what matters again without fear of losing track whilst in the midst of reasons to stay on it, a combination of intensified temptations and the resulting procrastination due to a lack of ability to focus on the good, a lack of sobriety, etc, strikes, and I fall again. This cycle has repeated itself in my life for possibly years now, with only brief periods of extended freedom from the heavy, heavy sins that plague me and freedom to look, read, listen to and engage with the things of the Church without painful, explicit shame and reprehension out of a fear of… I don't know, losing comprehension of the good through my by now lowly place in the world.

I feel I have to force myself to prayer, but end up being absent minded and frustrated at the entire situation, watching the time, my own thoughts, the whole nine yards. I know the answer probably lies there anyway, but sometimes it seems I can't do anything right and that which I can do lies just outside of what I'm willing to do, and I just feel worse and worse. What mindset must I try and enter, what would you have me do? Do you have any tips? Peace, brothers.

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Secular Art/Entertainment

When it comes to music, film, literature, etc. that is secular in nature, do you avoid it all? If not, how do you discern what is acceptable?

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Need Ebook Organization & note software

i have a LOT of resources in Logos. its the most powerful tool for bible research and its slowly getting better. eventually it'll proabbly work for historical research too. atm tho i need a 2nd software to organize non-logos owned books. im getting furstrated. im using calibre but calibre is weird. i want to be able to write notes, easily copy citations, and organize ebooks not within logos.

I don't want to pay a monthly fee for Polar and i'm not sure polar even accepts all ebook formats.

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Ayys are about to be confirmed real, /christian/

So this former Navy pilot went on Tucker Carlson last night and claimed he has come into contact with off world vehicles, and the Pentagon is about to release information confirming UFOs and this just comes after the Pentagon confirmed those UFO videos were real a few months ago. So how does /christian/ feel about this that ayys are about to be confirmed real and that they have been visiting Earth.

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New Thread

So if we are going to define gender on the basis of sex chromosomes, i.e. females are XX and males are XY, well that makes sense since 99% of humanity operates on this schema. But for the few people who are born with sex chromosome disorders, like those with Turner Syndrome (they only have a single X chromosome), or those with XXX or XXY disorder or XXYY disorder or XYY disorder, etc. etc., what are their genders? God created male and female, XX and XY. Those with XX are female persons, those with XY are male persons, so what kind of person would someone with XXY chromosomes be? Male or female? There is no third sex, God did not create anything in between. The idea that gender is non-binary is bulls— leftist garbage. And it is abundantly clear that those with sex chromosome disorders don't constitute other genders since, well, its a disorder, its not natural, its not supposed to happen. So I'm not asking this question from a political perspective but simply from a theological one, what kind of persons or souls would those who have sex chromosome disorders be? Also, there is the issue of Swyer Syndrome as well. These are people who genetically are XY but who were born with female genitalia as well as a cervix and uterus and the rest of the things that women have and they develop pretty much the same way that all other females develop. However despite having the outward appearance of a woman as well as the chemical makeup of a woman, a person with Swyer Syndrome is technically a male and they can't reproduce since their ovaries don't produce eggs. So if they were to be in a relationship, would it technically be homosexual if they were with a man and straight if they were with a woman even if on the outside this appears inverted? Also, given the fact that those with Swyer Syndrome generally aren't even aware of their chromosome disorder until later in life (when they try to reproduce) they are pretty much women both physically and chemically yet would they still technically be male persons due to their chromosomes? Or would they be female persons? God obviously intended for them to be male so would he have created their souls male?

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If the Hebrews ripped off their religion, then what does that say about Christianity?

If the Hebrews adopted (or stole) a good chunk of their religion and mythos from the ancient Sumerians, then what problems does this pose for Christianity, since Christianity is derived from the Hebrew religion?

-The flood (deluge) story was taken from the Sumerians.

-Moses' birth story is basically ripped off from Sargon's birth story.

-The story of creation, God speaking the universe into existence, is taken from Sumeria. (see picture I posted)

And there are numerous other aspects that were borrowed from Sumerian and Egyptian religion.

The alleged father of the Hebrews, Abraham, supposedly came from Ur (which resides in the lands of Sumeria). This might explain why many Hebrew legends are actually re-tellings of Sumerian legends.

All of this leads back to Sumeria.

God's real name is 'Anu':



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hai from /b and /pol

Sup, seen this place and was curious. Aren't you niggas a bit out of place here? Just curious.

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Your personal journey to Christ

I'm currently on my way to becoming a Christian. Have been a militant atheist for most of my life, but that all changed after a few 'transcendental experiences'. I'm still not entirely sure if the Christian religion has got it all figured out, but I'm being drawn towards it in a way that I'm not fully able to explain to myself or to others. It just feels right and somehow my faith grows every day and with each prayer.

I'm interested in how other people on here have found their way to Christianity. Have you all grown up in a catholic/protestant/orthodox household? Or were you atheist/agnostic and did your beliefs transform as you got older? What changed your mind? What events lead you down this path and how did your faith develop? And how did you end up choosing your denomination?

I currently feel like I am at a crossroads in my life and not sure how to proceed, maybe some of your stories will lead me in the right direction. I'd really appreciate it.

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Racist Christians

How do alt right Christians reconcile their political and religious beliefs? Christianity is inherently multicultural.

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Dios mio

Do Catholics really…?

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Infant Baptism?

Can babies be baptized?

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Would you still love god if...

Bear with me here, this is a genuine question that I am struggling with myself.

I often think about the horrible things in the world, and I can sometimes chalk it up to "his will" and "be grateful for the good things", and "who am I to understand these things".

But then, I imagine the worst thing possible happening to my family, like.. absolutely terrible..

And, in this scenario… I of course would not be able to love god. I would either lose faith in a benevolent god completely, or hate him with all of my being.

So, I guess I am asking you, if the most wretched horrible thing happened to someone in your family, would you still love him? And why?

I can't see why anyone with any self respect could love something all powerful that allows this to happen. The world cuckold comes to mind, as much as that is a meme, it is the only word I can think of. What kind of a man would love something that does terrible things to his family? This is what I ask myself.

Sorry, just kind of struggling.. because if I know I wouldn't love god in this situation.. why should I love him now? it isn't genuine because I know it has conditions, the condition being that he doesnt hurt my family, but I know he does this to lots of people and I am not special. I know he doesnt really care either way, and this also sucks.

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You guys are fullfilling Allah's plan

As lurk more on this board I realize the amount of infighting between christians and respective denominations.

It kinda reminded me of a prophecy that Allah has made in the Quran .


Quran 5:14

And from those who say, "We are Christians" We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do.


You guys don't realize that you are fulfilling the will of the demon called Allah buy constantly infighting. Christians are much stronger when united.

Despite being in different denominations what are the minimal things that we can use to unite together?

Also attached are screenshots from the book "The Deception of Allah" by Christian Prince

The pages I screen shoted are from pages 54-55 and in this link for internet archive pages 63-65

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What's up with Tradition?

Explain to me how catholics can claim their traditions are valid when the Apostles didn't believe them or write of them?

We don't see any praying for the dead or mary being "assumed" into heaven in the Bible.

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Evangelical Catholicism Thread

Evangelical Catholicism is the true form of Christianity. It is an unfortunate reality that so many sects arose out of what was originally intended to be a reformation of Western Catholicism, the Papacy is antichrist after all but Luther never intended for Protestantism as it is to arise, and it's a shame that so many supposedly Evangelical Catholic groups, like the ELCA, have accepted faggotry, genital mutilation, as well as baby murder and other abominations, but if you're in America I would very much suggest LCMS despite the fact that they're congregationalist in polity, they actually don't consider this doctrine and they do have fellowship with other Evangelical Catholic communities which have apostolic succession.

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Being Christian without god

I am considering converting to Christianity. The holdup is the idea of mandatory theism. Can you be a Christian without believing in God?

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looking for a pic

Does anybody still have the compilation pic with quotes of popes and priests exposing jews?

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What do?

What are you going to do about this /christian/?

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Nantes Cathedral in fire (France) 7/18/20

Nantes Cathedral in fire (frogs) 7/18/20: https://m.invidio.us/watch?v=ix2lxf7FfWQ

After Notre-Dame de Paris 1 year ago, another unfortunate cigarette butt?

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Your sky daddy tyrant is going on trial for his war crimes.

Hello Xians, we're going to put your deity on trial today. As with all trials there is going to be a judge and lawyers. So let's provide a list of just a few of the things your deity is accused of doing:


One thing your sky daddy does on multiple occasions is calling for the genocide of entire peoples. We see this when God literally sends a flood to destroy the planet (Genesis 6-8), we also see this when God orders to complete annihilation of the Canaanites (Deuteronomy 20:17, Joshua 6:17) as well as of the Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:3). There are other examples but these are the most notable.

>Other War Crimes

Your deity has committed or encouraged the committing of numerous war crimes other than just genocide, such as what he orders against the Midianites in Numbers 31 for literally no reason. Sounds like a mass murdering tyrannical maniac tbh. They destroyed their city, killed pretty much all the men including the children along with the married women, and then put their virgin women into sex slavery. Wow, that's a real loving sky daddy you got there Xians. Your sky daddy also promotes the murder of babies (Psalm 137:9).

>Psychologically Abusing People

He literally had Abraham almost kill his own son and then, at the very last second, he tells him not to. Not only does this show how deluded Abraham is, that he would actually kill his own child for a maniac in the sky, but also highlights the extreme masochism of your sky daddy.

>Cruel and unusual punishments

Once again, your deity sounds like an absolute maniac. He literally commands the murder of homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 despite the fact that homosexuality is a normal part of human society. He also commands that women become married to their rapists (Deuteronomy 22:25-30). Apparently your sky daddy is also such an attention whore he literally commands the killing of people of other religions who don't worship him as well (Exodus 22:20) and he also commands the murder of people who just don't like him (Leviticus 24:10-16). Again there are many other examples of this but these are what'll be listed for now.

Your sky daddy also does some other pretty winnie the poohed up s— like he believes in collective guilt and punishing children for their parents crimes as he says in the second commandment in Exodus 20:5. He also murders a couple in Acts 5 for simply not wanting to give all their money to a silly little new cult called Christianity that was taking off at the time. Sounds pretty winnie the poohed up if you ask me.

There are many other examples, but it seems that your deity is guilty of various crimes and atrocities. It is your job to defend him, but I doubt you can, your deity is really made in the image of man after all, that is, in the image of barbaric bronze age farming idiots who had absolutely no understanding of science or rational thinking.

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>pray about something you are capable of

<God might help

>pray about something you are incapable of

<God never helps

Funny how this works…

About done with the charade, personally.

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Is Catholicism evil?

A lot of stuff I heard from church is evil like the turn the other cheek stuff and the antiracism stuff. Catholics also have pursued the path of the fedoras, using their terminology and insults now and shilling Catholicism using base illogical arguments. I've been seriously considering Protestantism for a few years now, because I'm American and a lot of the influential racists in America's history were Protestants who got their racism directly from the Bible.

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Should it be considered a disability?

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Prayer request


my mother and my father have had relationship issues for a couple of years after she had cheated on him whilst on vacation. The past eight months it looked like they were healing, but three days ago my mother said to me she didn't want to be with my father. She told him this yesterday over the phone (my mother and I were abroad with family while our father was going to look for a new home to rent in the area we previously were in) and my father freaked out and tried negotiating with my mother but she says her mind is set. My father now ignores all calls. Please pray for his safety and strength and for my mother to wake up. I tried talking to her myself but it did not work.

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How to approach cheating dad with love in Christ (Advice)

Hey, sorry to stop lurking to post, but I honestly just need some Christian encouragement and advice. I'm almost entirely positive I just caught my dad cheating on my disabled mom, and He's going to be going to church and playing in the band tomorrow. I'm going to talk to our pastor tomorrow, but I was wondering how I would approach the subject from a Christian angle with someone who's so Christian on the surface and yet does something so evil in private. I love my dad, and he loves me (I think). I'm still young, only just an adult, live with him. Again, any advice or encouragement is appreciated. (Synod is WELS/ELS btw, but am pretty open to Orthodox/Catholic practices, so all, feel free, pls) (also pic related, it's a snap I sent to a few close friends abt what happened leading to my discovery)

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Man Drives Van Into Lobby of Florida Catholic Church, Lights It On Fire With Parishioners Inside

A man has been arrested after crashing his vehicle into the lobby of Florida church, lighting it on fire, then leading officers on a high speed chase before being apprehended.

The man, who has not yet been identified, drove through the Queen of Peace Catholic Church in Ocala on Saturday morning around 7:30 a.m. in a minivan. He then got out of the vehicle, threw a device into the main area of the building, and a fire started. Police have not publicly explained what exactly the device was.


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Sin and life

I have a hardcore catholic christian friend who tells me not to worry about sin, because God loves me and forgives my sin. Jesus died for our sins, and only God can be sinless. I know this sounds like the setting for christian hedonism, but would God really want us to go through life and worry about every sin when we're destined to be sinful?

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Where does the Bible order the execution of the wicked?

Title says it all.

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Post verses refuting Protestantism

Post verses that refute Protestantism. Here I'll start with an obvious one: James 2:14-26

Also pic related

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Failure's of Protestant church

A Catholic President would have been a better choice as a US president,

Do you know why USA is in such a mess because of these 'Protestants',because they only protest and they have done nothing constructive

Lets be honest,most protestants are jewish corporate debt slaves.Jews just used them as their pawn.

We don't we invade them??

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Were the Greek philosophers prophets?

St. Paul says Epimenides was a prophet in a Titus 1:12. Does this mean the other philosophers like Plato and Socrates may have been prophets? They did make a lot of correct assertions about God after all.

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