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Meta

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Don't Panic. Please review before Virus Posting

Please watch and read and reflect. It may be helpful to anyone who is extremely worried. I understand people are afraid. But the LORD is always in control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUxk8-Uosx8

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/cs-lewis-coronavirus/

https://www.christianpost.com/voices/cs-lewis-and-the-coronavirus.html

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Is it just me or does libertarianism have a lot of overlap with satanism?

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/tenets?fbclid=IwAR1tnUR4DhQxrv_LlSluKUpdvxsBcq4WVHqAlqnltHJ2SYyabkT_NDhjimo

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About Christianity, race and sexuality

I'm gay and I just want to ask one honest question: why do modern Christians reject gayness as this horrible sin and accept modern theories about race? Modern Christians are against slavery, against segregation, anti-racism, pro-interracial marriage… completely different from the Christians before it. Are the Christians from the past all burning in hell for supporting slavery, the apartheid, Jim Crow laws, etc?

Also the same people that promote LGBT stuff also promote the race stuff that Christians agree with, so it's a bit confusing.

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Catholic General

NON EST VERA LIBERTAS NISI IN SOLA ECCLESIA CATHOLICA

The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for general Catholic discussion. Mass, readings, rosary - everything that is connected with the faith.

Other denominations welcome, although we politely ask you to keep the arguments about our theological differences in other threads.

Useful links:

Official Vatican website: www.vatican.va

Today's readings: www.ewtn.com/daily-readings/

Papal encyclicals: www.papalencyclicals.net

Catholic encyclopedia online: www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Summa Theologiae of St. Thomas Aquinas online: www.newadvent.org/summa/

How to pray the rosary: www.rosarycenter.org/homepage-2/rosary/how-to-pray-the-rosary/

Divine Office (liturgy of the hours): www.divineoffice.org/welcome/

Little Office of the Immaculate Conception: www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=1925

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1 Corinthians 13:11

When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.

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Church that defied coronavirus restrictions burned to the ground

https://archive.is/OXmkM

>Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves on Thursday condemned a church fire that's being investigated as an arson. First Pentecostal Church in Holly Springs burned on Wednesday, about a month after it filed a lawsuit challenging city restrictions on gatherings amid the coronavirus pandemic.

>News outlets reported that investigators from the Marshall County Sheriff’s Office found graffiti in the church parking lot that read: “Bet you stay home now you hypokrites.”

>Pastor Jerry Waldrop said he and other church leaders have no idea who might have set the fire or left the graffiti.

>The church sued the city of Holly Springs in April, alleging police officers had disrupted a church Bible study and Easter service. Holly Springs City Attorney Shirley Byers said nearly 40 worshipers inside the church building were not practicing social distancing on April 10 when a violation citation was issued for the church.

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Bible reading tips

I've recently regained faith and I want to read through the entire Bible. I've already read the New Testament and about 3 or 4 books of the OT. And the Gospels I read several times

I want to do this right however.

Given the situation, would it be right to read one Gospel (I was thinking John), then the rest of the NT at the same time with the OT (probably skipping Genesis, Exodus and Deut.)?

I want to get all the information before doing a more thorough re-read cover to cover.

Thoughts? Any tips?

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Folk Catholicism?

Thoughts on folk Catholicism?

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the ufo and alien question

what are some good resources, books, etc on ufos and aliens from reputable sources, from religious and secular perspective? I already read seraphim rose's 'orthodoxy and the religion of the future' he seems to cite jacques vallee alot.

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How do you bros avoid the sin of pornography/masturbation?

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SMT games/ general satanic media

What do you guys think about this franchise?

The point of most games is to literally partner up with demons and either serve or kill the game's version of God, who's pretty much the jewish God with the actual name. The games usually have a few routes to go about through the story.

Personally, I had a great time rp-ing as a holy man during the Law route in SMT IV, even if the game's depiction of God is very fundamentally wrong. He is seen as unforgiving and very authoritarian. (I did this before being a believer)

Pic related is what your partner turns into when he fuses with the angels. He becomes Merkabah who "is made of many Ophanim, Seraphim and Chayots. " as the wiki says

The game also features Lucifer as your main partner is the chaos route.

I think we should avoid this game series, but honestly this used to be my favorite game franchise from way before they were popular so I'm kinda conflicted.

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Hindu elements of Indian Christianity

Syrian Catholic here. I would like to hear your thought on the pagan elements of Indian Christianity, especially the Christianity in Kerala and TN from where I come from and existed here since the pre-medieval times, maybe even before Europe (if you go by the St. Thomas version of the origin of Christians in Kerala) so it had more time to be influenced by Hinduism.

These pagan elements go beyond just mere mimicking of Hindu customs and practices. It's reflected in the religious beliefs too such as belief in a pantheistic/monistic version of God, viewing the individual saints as sort of 'demi gods' to whom you pray directly, viewing Mother Mary as a feminine counter part to Jesus/God, etc…

There is even local myths and legends that mixes Hindu mythology and legends with local Christian mythology. For eg- Kadamathatu Kattanar is a household name and a very famous folk hero in Kerala who is a Christian priest who trained magic under a tribal priest and performed various magic, fought and defeated many yakshis(A revengeful spirit in Hindu mythology), etc…

Some Christians such as my mother herself believes that what they call 'Hell/Purgatory' is Earth itself(Obviously a version of Hindu reincarnation myth) and most Christians I know accept some form of Omnist belief that 'all gods are one and all religions contain the truth' and stuff.

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Psychology not a Science

Friendly reminder psychology was never a real science. It’s a secular religion that ruined millions of lives in the west. Psychologists vote what they consider conditions. Instead of research. Psychology the mainstream transgender get pushed on the public. We wouldn’t have the LGBT movement without psychology.

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Catholic Practices vs Actual Scripture

I typed this up and would like to see what you guys think.

For people that aren't cathlodox add what views/doctrines or verses you think should go on it.

For cathlodox keep it to saying why the verse doesn't disprove said doctrine. For example, why Act 8:37 doesn't show infant baptism isn't valid, not bring up some other verse on why it is valid.

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TMBH Seventh Day Adventist

Ten minute Bible hour video visiting an SDA church

Watch and discuss

Previous videos:

>Greek Orthodox

>Non denom

>Roman Catholic

>Continuing Anglican

>Lutheran

>Episcopal

>Black missionary Baptist

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Minecraft - holy server

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=opFzZ0yWP-s

Look at this interesting project. They are teaching the youth good values and are having fun while cleaning their souls. What is your opinion on such projects? Should we create a similar server?

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Ishmael prophecy and Islam?

>And the angel of the LORD said unto her: 'Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son; and thou shalt call his name Ishmael, because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.

>And he shall be a wild ass of a man: his hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the face of all his brethren.'

>Genesis 16:11-12

Do these verses bear any relevance to the emergence and conquests of Islam? Also:

>For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

>But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

>which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar -

>Galatians 4:22-24

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Upload an image to this site & AI will generate a sound.

http://www.imaginarysoundscape.net/#/upload

Here's mine:

http://imaginarysoundscape.net/view/KvdCTuqDpT/276076_846186_0

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R.I.P.

David Pawson passed away on the 21st of May (on Ascension Day) at the age of 90.

Rest in peace.

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https://www.invidio.us/user/DavidPawsonMinistry

https://www.davidpawson.org/

I hope you guys don't mind me posting this. I got the idea from the thread on Ravi Zacharias' passing. I realize that making a thread for each pastor/Bible-teacher that passes away is overdoing it and undesireable, but David Pawson was quite a prominent one, so I thought it would be okay.

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Crusade against degenercy

Kpop has been infested with these kpop stans promoting asian supremacy. We need to secure the white race and end them once and for all.

At 7:00 pm EST on May 26th we will raid twitter with this video: Link removed

We will stan the s— out of the band from titanic and drive the k-pop stans out with #kpopartistsarepedos Lets get them goys and girls!

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Afterlife

How do we know afterlife exists? Is hell and heaven real?

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Christian anime thread

Let's talk about wholesome entertainment.

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Verses proving salvation to anyone that believes and not of works.

Typed this up on Excel to have it all in one picture after going through the NT and trying to find verses that support sola fide. I was also the one that did >>833397 , I like Excel.

I rated each verse on how clear it seems, Vey Clear being it obviously is teaching salvation by faith alone and you need to be a fool to think otherwise. And Supporting as supporting verses that do seem to be saying it's by faith alone, but not very clear and my need explanation.

If you do believe sola fide tell me what other verses I should add to the list.

If you don't believe sola fide, then say why that verse is not teaching that. Don't just spout off other verses like James 2 because otherwise this thread will just be a dung flinging contest like wha always happens. If sola fide isn't true then you should be able to explain the verses, and not just the 'Supporting' ones.

It sometimes is autistic when trying to make a new thread, sorry if I end up making multiple.

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“Christian” songs

I enjoy interpreting popular songs to have a Christian meaning. For example, Natasha Bedingfield’s “Pocketful of Sunshine” contains the following lyrics:

> I got a pocket, got a pocketful of sunshine.

>I got a love, and I know that it's all mine.

> Do what you want, but you're never gonna break me.

>Sticks and stones are never gonna shake me.

>Wish that you could, but you ain't gonna own me.

>Do anything you can to control me.

>There's a place that I go,

>That nobody knows.

>Where the rivers flow,

>And I call it home.

>And there's no more lies.

>In the darkness, there's light.

>And nobody cries.

>There's only butterflies.

>The sun is on my side.

>Take me for a ride.

>I smile up to the sky.

>I know I'll be all right.

For this song, the Christian parallels are obvious (if you look for them). The “sun” is on my side, representing Jesus, a place of light and no lies (heaven), nothing the demons or wicked can do to control you or separate you from your happiness in God, “smiling up to the sky” to God, etc.

Personally it just makes songs more interesting by interpreting them in this way. What songs can you think of that may have a Christian interpretation?

https://invidio.us/gte3BoXKwP0

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Pornhub and others website porns promote pedophilia and sex trafficking of women and child

Pornhub and others website porns promote pedophilia and sex trafficking of women and child

for more info link: https://nitter.net/LailaMickelwait/status/1255997804943564800

if you want to save womens and children there is a petition on twitter check the link

Guys i think big porn industry is connected to big satanic elite etc

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I've gained an attraction to femboys

Help

Help

HEEEEEEEEEEELP

I need some advice on what to do, I keep having these conflicting feelings and I just don't feel like it's right. My family asked about my attraction and I keep saying that I'm straight. But everytime I get these weird feelings and I keep falling back into this love and lust problem until I snap back. I'm really having trouble, what should I do?

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Thoughts on American Christian culture

What are your thoughts on American Christianity, more specifically the culture? Personally I find almost everything about it to be disgusting. The strip mall mega churches, the electric guitar rock and roll songs, the lack of theology (but ironically they maintain an obsession with eschatology especially if it has to do with Israel, their favorite country) , the overall corniness of it all is something I find to be in very bad taste. Those corny wooden wall decorations that have a bible verse on the that soccer moms put up on their wall under the thing that says "live laugh love'.

And these are the conservative churchs foro winnie the poohs sake. The liberal churches are a haven for homosexuals and pedophiles and are basically glorified NGOs. They preach downright heresy, damnable ideas that spit in the face of the faith.

The worst part is is how they try to synthesize the faith with their libertarian-capitalist ethic, which has ironically led to the downfall of the faith as the liberals, atheists and jews are able to use the courts to push through laws that change the culture in their own favor. Meanwhile the retarded israel loving gun toting libertarian illiterate loud mouth fat winnie the pooh conservative do absolutely nothing but complain about "muh constitution".

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Annual Catholic Appeal

This year is far worse that the last. It appears that people have little money this year, because of this Covid-19 and so many folks being out of work.

Any other churches having problems getting support?

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Flee to the Fields: Catholic Land Movement

Interesting essays are gathered in this book.

Some people are interested in communitary rural life based on christian (catholic) principles? Any experience with this?

It seems less unusual in the US, where there are the Amishes for example, than in France where Christian initiatives like this are rare and little-known.

I have a land unexploited, I am considering to start a farm, even if this represents a lot of work.

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Orthodox General

Purpose

This thread is to help all the Orthodox anons on this board to gather their thoughts, uplift each other, share edifying materials, and ask important questions.

Glory be to God in all things.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

Useful Links

Ancient Faith Radio: http://www.ancientfaith.com/

OrthodoxWiki: https://orthodoxwiki.org/Main_Page

Canons of the Seven Ecumenical Councils: http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_INDEX.HTM

The Orthodox Church in America: https://oca.org/

Orthodox Christianity (a site that hosts articles predominantly written by clergy): http://orthochristian.com/

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Post rare Andersons. Don’t take it too far

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Despairing

I apologize in advance if this thread is essentially a blogpost. Just needed somewhere to vent.

Today, I finally hit the breaking point with two of my closest friends. I have a very powerful, toxic core belief, and I've been unable and/or unsuccessful in rooting it out. Because of this belief, I feel the obligation to perpetuity cause suffering onto myself for past mistakes, and for any future ones that may come up. After over a year of trying, I gave them both a heartfelt message that because of my issues, I would need to isolate myself to avoid harming them further. One seems to have acknowledged this, saying they'll pray for me, and the other has yet to respond, but I'm sure they'll follow suit.

Losing those two has left me with pretty much no one. I don't have any job, no schooling, no IRL friends, and so I've turned my existence into a hermitage. Frankly, I don't mind being alone, but knowing that all I'm able to do is self-sabatoge gives me a powerful urge to kill myself. I'm just too tired of living a life that's miserable, and it's a product of my own behavior. God's probably tried to help, but my ears can't hear Him, nor do I eyes perceive Him. I'm doomed and don't understand why God hasn't gifted me with death yet to end the punishment that is my life.

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Relationship general

Post your successes/troubles.

The responsibility is yours. Since you're the man you are the driving force behind starting a relationship. It is your job to do the first move as it is to lead all other moves.

Women seek stability. A woman is like a flower that grows towards God. A man is more like a stick. He can direct the married couple towards God. If both of them are flowers, then they stay in mud.

>Be yourself

Be confident about who you are. It will give you a special aura around yourself

>Work on your confidence

Start at nofap thread, eliminate porn and masturbation from your life. Increase your testosterone levels by working out…./fit/

>Get hobbies

If you lack interests, you are less interesting to women. Women want men of action.

>Visit places where high quality women hang out

Church, library, your hobbies…

>Become more educated about your faith

If you want a good Christian girl you should study scriptures. If she takes her faith seriously she will probably be impressed.

Your future wife probably will not just appear out of nothing and ask you out. It is your job when she appears all of sudden to be confident enough to ask her out and handle that situation.

Purity thread:

https://8ch.net/christian/res/405648.html

If any of you guys have some useful meta, please post it so we can include it in the future to the OP.

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Protestants are not Christians

Daily reminder that Protestants are not Christians. They hate Christ and his Church, they openly curse the Mother of God, they worship Martin Luther as Satan incarnate, they promote homosexual orgies in their worship, they practice abominable deeds and heresies and are hell bent on destroying anything and everything that has to do with Christianity. They are not Christians, not even close. They are destined for hell.

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webm, mp4 & gif. thread

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Long absence

For many months I kept trying to access this board again looking to discuss and be convinced to be faithful again and stop smoking weed and drawing porn.

Now 8ch.net finally redirected me here oof I missed you.

Please tell me what to read to regain faith also is Anderson still a meme?

How do you guys deal with having a lot of worldly stuff to do, people to talk to, and being a good Christian? I find myself being pulled back in that old lifestyle constantly.

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Schizochristianity thread

Lets settle the most pressing question of our times, is the bible the mark of the beast? I found this couple a few months ago when they started purchasing YouTube ads, they seem to think that Constantine and King James distorted the bible, but they continually use the bible when talking about Christianity.

Lets talk about schizos and objectively mentally ill people you've encountered in the christian community.

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Thoughts on this man?

Thought on this man right here?

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Roman Catholicism is not Biblical

Daily reminder that Latin is NOT a Biblical language and that Roman Catholicism is NOT Biblical.

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Apologetics Thread

Discuss apologetics and share resources itt

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theology books

As a baptist…

Where do I start with theology?

Any/lit/ style infographics?

No Catholicism pls

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Pagan thread

Post images to troll pagans with.

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Your own scripture debunks you

IAlephI

3 days ago

Even non-muslims know that muslims would never insult Jesus (pbuh).

To write ex-muslim shows how many of those are fake (something addressed in the other video) the lies are obvious.

Secondly, christianity is nothing but insults to God and to Jesus.

You attribute ignorance to a trinitarian teacher which is something not inconceivable and he will get upset.

Meanwhile he attributes what is worse to God The Holy and Pure but you watch him try to justify it with all sorts of non-sense against logic and scripture.

Did Jesus want to be crucified?

Did Jesus not pray to God to be saved?

Jesus says killing him is murder ordered by whom (John 8:44)?

Consider the following:

1) "God humbled himself"

2) "Inheritance of sin"

3) "You dont need the law"

4) "Divine sacrifice or murder"

5) "God does not forgive without divine blood"

6) "Away from me you evildoers"

7) "For there are three that bear record in heaven"

1)

In a discussion about God, an agnostic might ask "why doesnt the Creator have a higher Creator?"

Believers in one God will explain, the Creator is not deficient, not made into a Creator.

Among the believers is a trinitarian who himself explains to the agnostic "God being deficient is a false assertion about God, irrational"

Except moments later a trinitarian will introduce a concept called (God humbled himself) relabeling irrational with mystery.

Does it follow through with reason and scripture?

Matthew 24:36

"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

A few questions come to mind:

- God knows the hour and does not know the hour?

- Though divine, the son says (I of myself can do nothing), does not know the hour, is the human side in Jesus overtaking the divine side in Jesus?

- The reason often stated for the son not having knowledge is that he humbled himself, what about the holy spirit, did it humble itself too?

From 3 in 1, only One knows.

Only the Father knows.

2)

Ezekiel 18:20

The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.

Ezekiel 18:29

Yet the Israelites say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' Are my ways unjust, people of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust?

(X Y and Z come and say original sin is justice)

(Whatever happened to the law?)

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Traps?

I've been born again since I was 3 years old but for the past year or so (partially thanks to outcast internet culture) I've had periods of wanting to cosplay as a trap, despite the Bible being pretty clear about this issue (Deut. 22:5). The thing is, it's not really a sexual thing for me at all, I'm not gay or gender dysphoric and I'm not doing it publicly. Is it still wrong? If I was married and my wife was into it would that be wrong too?

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It's actually the year 910

And next year on the year 911, the elite will introduce the antichrist.

1776 is the Gregorian Calendar founding date of the Illuminati. 36 (Three-six aka 666) Years later in 1812 was the war that erased and reset human history.

(((Google))) was founded on 1998 which divided by 3 is 666. It's also 222 years after the founding of the Illuminati and the true year of 888.

09/11/2001 was the year 891 which is 33x(3x[3x3])

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=HqhZy1Rumr0

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Relationship General

New one edition.

Post your successes/troubles.

The responsibility is yours. Since you're the man you are the driving force behind starting a relationship. It is your job to do the first move as it is to lead all other moves.

Women seek stability. A woman is like a flower that grows towards God. A man is more like a stick. He can direct the married couple towards God. If both of them are flowers, then they stay in mud.

>Be yourself

Be confident about who you are. It will give you a special aura around yourself.

>Work on your confidence

Start at nofap thread, eliminate porn and masturbation from your life. Increase your testosterone levels by working out.

>Get hobbies

If you lack interests, you are less interesting to women. Women want men of action.

>Visit places where high quality women hang out

Church, library, your hobbies…

>Become more educated about your faith

If you want a good Christian girl you should study scriptures. If she takes her faith seriously she will probably be impressed.

Your future wife probably will not just appear out of nothing and ask you out. It is your job when she appears all of sudden to be confident enough to ask her out and handle that situation.

If any of you guys have some useful meta, please post it so we can include it in the future to the OP.

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Baptism mode debate

Should it be by immersion or pouring/sprinkling?

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Verses that really make you think

I especially like the ones talking about the eternity of God, and how that time doesn't exist to him and the future, from our perspective, has already happened

Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. 9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

With this one, and the rest of the book of Revelation, it's not that it will take place in the future, but that it has already happened. And the great multitude that John rights of includes you in it, so he has already seen you in there.

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R.I.P

F

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Map your spiritual journey

>raised protestant (Church of Christ)

>agnostic at 13

>atheist at 14

>gnostic occultist at 15

>protestant (Church of Christ) again at 17

>Orthodox at 20

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Suicide

I have been in this depression for a while now. I lost a lot including all of my friends because I shut everyone out of my life. I stopped going to church, I stopped praying. I didn't necessarily stop believing God but I just ended my relationship with him just like I ended my relationship with everyone else. I am seriously considering suicide. I have never felt more isolated in my life than now. I know you guys are going to say this is a sin but next week I am going to try psychedelic therapy recommended to me, it's really the last hope I have. Maybe taking a good hard look at myself on mushrooms will heal me. But if it doesn't then I don't know what else to do. It feels like there is no one there for me, not even God. I have asked for prayers before but they never seem to be answered. In my last desperate attempt to facilitate some hope I do ask that you guys pray for me. At this point in my life I don't have much to live for.

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Snake Worship

What's the deal with Paul VI hall where the Pope gives his speeches? It looks like a snake. Why does the Pope speak from the mouth of a giant serpent?

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My Last Day (Japanese) HD

My Last Day (Japanese) HD

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=dD_V70H9VRo

When ur a Christian Weeb…

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Seeking for hope

Is there actually any fellow christian who can help person who is in very bad situtation?

I need money to food electricity, phone and internet (I also thousands of medical bills but they doesent kill me). I have my first ever welfare application going but it will takes ~10 days

>Born 199x

>Ok family

>9 student in school (very good 4-10 scaling)

>was expecting to be lawyer after army

>was sergeant in army thought about going officer school

>after army my stomach started hurt

<u have crohn and it is very bad no medicines will help and you will just starve we need to make stoma and surgery u constantly

<u also have clostridium difficeleand these antibiots wont cure you, so bad luck :(

>and oh nice now u have constat kidney stones too cause why winnie the pooh not

>sorry but we found rotten flesh inside you, we need to leave wound open and it will constantly bleed and hurts, otherwise it will rot again

>got very depressed

There was my ~24 years of live

Current: btc address bc1q5260l7uc84n5v243tmpa9z4ywkhdzp94m0ld8q

Current gmail where u can send paysafe cards. Justt buy from official site and send code euros pls: jaakko1209@gmail.com

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your help would be appreciated. I believe in an remnant economy.

Really want to purchase $20 worth of btc ltc or monero ideally using my CC or my DC, if not you'll have to trust my money will arrive in the mail.

I am too much of a Saint I have no chance of passing Id verification, no matter how good the phone camera is, on top of that I was just denied access to outpatient rehab this morning for no reason.

The authoritarians have had their eyes on me since I met my now deceased OG when I was 15, I am now 26.

Daniel 7, 21 As I watched, this horn was waging war against the Saints and wearing them out, 22 until the Ancient of Days arrived and pronounced judgement in favor of the Saints of the Most High.

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Mormons are Christians

I don't know why you guys are so hell bent on excluding us from the body of Christ. Yeah we're not "orthodox" in the Nicene sense, but not all Christians are Nicene Christians. Our theology is closer to Arianism indeed, I would consider myself a homoiousian Christian if I had lived in the late 3rd/early 4th century. The homoiousian doctrine was the dominate conceptualization of the Trinity (Godhead) doctrine, just read Tertullian or Origen or Justin Martyr. It was Athanasius who was the main proponent of of the homoousian doctrine whose followers later became the Nicene sect which morphed into the dominate form of Christianity after the Germanic Arians converted to Nicene Christianity in the 6th and 7th centuries.

Look our theology about God isn't that different from yours. You say God is one substance and three persons. We believe God is three substances, Elohim (The Father), Yahweh (The Son) and the Holy Ghost. All three of them are real personages and all are God but they aren't all equal, Yahweh is subordinate to Elohim and the Holy Spirit is subordinate to both. Yes we do believe Elohim was once a man in another universe, but our universe was created by Elohim and we worship him and the other personages of the Godhead alone. Everyone has the potential to become gods, humans are called gods in the Bible (see John 10), it's an eternal cycle which all intelligent beings have the opportunity to progress through.

Seriously just give us a flag here, there is no need to discriminate against non-Nicene Christians. We confess Jesus Christ, we confess he is the Son of God who died for our sins and rose three days later, and we look forward to his second coming. We believe in the same Bible you do. Yes our canon is larger but so what? I hear the Ethiopian Christians also have a larger canon yet no one seems to exclude them from the body of Christ.

Our theology actually fits pretty well with what the what the Israelites originally believed in. Do you know what Deuteronomy 32:8 originally said?

>When Elyon gave the nations as an inheritance, when he separated the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. For Yahweh's portion was his people; Jacob was the lot of his inheritance".

We see from the dead sea scrolls (as well as evidence in the Greek translation of the OT known as the septuagint) that Elyon (the Most High God) and Yahweh are distinguished here, and that it was Elyon who set the gods over the nations, and the god he set over Israel was Yahweh who became Jesus because Elohim planned to redeem the world through Israel and through his Son Yahweh, Jesus Christ.

So just give us a flag, we are Christians, as I have proved it, we're just not Nicene Christians. Ask any scholar of religion if Mormonism is objectively Christian and they will tell you yes, excluding us is just sectarianism.

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Problem of Evil

I made a chart to rebut the dumb reddit "epicurean paradox" flowchart that keeps getting shilled on halfchan

Suggestions welcome

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Blessed

<"For behold, from henceforth : all generations shall call me blessed."

ITT we call her blessed.

Blessed be the Virgin Mary.

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Are you better off joining a traditional seminary or mainstream seminary?

The way I see it, there is pros and cons of both.

>Mainstream seminary

Pros:

+more integrated into popular society.

+greater outreach to people(via schools, charities, ect).

+able to help the poorly catechized normie laity, which is arguably more important than helping the (already) semi-redpilled tradcath laity

+more social capital

+probably easier (you don't need to learn to speak Latin).

+have the entire history and institution of the Church behind you.

Cons:

-have to deal with excessive modernism

-have to deal with unfortunate heresy e.g. Christian Zionism

-have to deal with the corrupt upper hierarchy

-might be pressured to censor yourself in order to appear "politically correct" as to not alienate anyone

-the haters will call you a pedo and/or homosexual

-might wake up one day to find unbearable changes e.g. women clerics

>Traditionalist Seminary

Pros:

+Conservative social teachings

+Part of the select few keeping Latin Mass alive

+peak aesthetics, peak /fa/

+less chance of waking up to a progressive overhaul

+emphases on reverence, piety, ritual, and humility

+have to worry less about "politically correct" opinions.

Cons:

-less social capital

-possibly schematic, or might become as such in the future

-have to deal with the notoriously cliquish tradcath groups

-have to deal with the common purity spiraling

-more scrutinized

-will bear the brunt of the current intrigue which is happening in the trad movement.

Thoughts?

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Council of Jerusalem

Is there a modern Christian denomination that only stemmed from the Council of Jerusalem (and nothing more)?

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Can we cast Lots?

The Priests did it in the old testament, the Apostles did it in Acts, can we do it now? is there scripture against it?

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The evil smile

Is it just me or certain radiates So much evil you can see it in their face? Both Microsoft and the medical industry doing a power grab over the coronavirus use demonic symbolism no coincidence.

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Imagining Heaven

I wish that I could have a taste of heaven, an urgent hunger for that place, and to have a clear picture of what it will be like. My body is too concerned with earthly desires, such as what my body looks like, or whether or I will have a good wife some day.

I believe that heaven will be greater than anything on earth, and yet, this is not easy to imagine. I’ve been thinking recently, maybe I should convince myself that the most beautiful girl is waiting for me in heaven. There will also be beautiful music, and the most savory food, and the scenery will be always be beautiful and everyone will get along, and so on. Now a part of me thinks this is obviously too worldly and not very accurate, but I also might tell myself that it is good to imagine these great things, and then tell myself that true heaven is even better. But ultimately I’m still looking forward to “worldly” things, aren’t I? And, though I may forsake some thing in this world, because I believe it will be easier to get in heaven, then am I not paradoxically increasing my lust towards that worldly thing?

And isn’t all this somewhat offensive to God? I would like to desire God alone, but how is this possible without some relation between us, i.e. the things that God gives us through love? I’ve heard that heaven will be continual worship of God, but there must be something that motivates us to worship. Will it simply be a supreme bliss of the soul that never fades and compels us to love God? But for some reason, this sounds… boring. Not that it is boring, but I simply cannot imagine it well. The idea of talking and spending time with great people for eternity alone sounds just as interesting to me.

So how should we view heaven? How should we convince ourselves that the pleasures of this life are truly meaningless? Or must we simply believe and hope for good things? without any idea of what they may be

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CDC Vaccine Chair: "Get Rid Of The Whites" Scandal. Professor Carol Baker Calls For Racial Genocide

CDC Vaccine Chair: "Get Rid Of The Whites" Scandal. Professor Carol Baker Calls For Racial Genocide

link video:https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=CvtcqneMwyI

wtf

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Jesus dream

In the dream i saw Jesus climbing a rope hanging from a cliff. He was covered in blood and wearing the crown of thorns. Around His waist was tied another rope at the bottom of which hung a giant weight like 10,000 lbs. At the top of the cliff was a crowd of people who i think were the romans and they were forcing Him to climb this rope as part of His punishment.

Then the dream shifted into first person, and i could see through His eyes. I saw His bloody hands gripping the rope, climbing up, lifting this impossible weight.

I was overcome by a really strong emotion like i had never felt before. It was like for the first time i understood the sacrifice, what it really meant for Jesus to take on the sins of humanity. It was like gratitute, guilt, sadness, amazement all rolled into one.

I've never had a dream about Jesus before. I don't even know what i believe. I was born Jehovah's Witness, then became agnostic, then atheist/nihilist, then new age hippie/buddhist/taoist. Over the past few years i've been drawn to Christianity. I even went to an Orthodox liturgy last year (first time i set foot in a church in probably 20 years).

The dream hapened last week and i can't stop thinking about it. What did this mean?

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I peaked

When I was younger I had a gorgeous, godly woman who loved me.

It's been years, but memories of worshiping together, praying together, doing daily devotions together make doing them now hurt.

I've worshiped alone for years now and it all just hurts.

Please brothers, keep me in your prayers and praise God.

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Free Church of Scotland (Continuing)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Church_of_Scotland_(Continuing)

>The Free Church of Scotland (Continuing) (Scottish Gaelic: An Eaglais Shaor Leantainneach) is a Scottish Presbyterian denomination which was formed in January 2000. It claims to be the true continuation of the Free Church of Scotland, hence its name.

>The Free Church of Scotland (Continuing) presently has 34 functioning congregations, of which 7 are in North America.

Turns out there are protestant churches organized by old world denominations just like in the eastern orthodox field.

This is also analogous to sedevacantism in the Roman church

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8kun.top have hentai anime with image child threads and boards?is 8kun.top promote pedophilia?

why 8kun.top have hentai anime with image child threads and boards?is 8kun.top promote pedophilia?why people from 8kun.top not report those threads and boards? i also see ads with sex toys with children image wtf those people are sick!8kun.top make money from this???

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What should I begome?

Catholicism or Orthodoxy? And which Orthodoxy if Orthodoxy? No I will not consider any form of Protestantism because it's clear heresy and un-Biblical.

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why do people seem to still take this literally?

i was anti-theist until I learned from Jordan Peterson that the narratives can be taken as moralistic lessons

I've been trying to learn more and talk to more religious people as a result

But the community feels a little unwelcoming unless I conform to beliefs that don't really make much sense with modern science

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Career

How do i know what god wants me to do for a career?

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UFO's are real?

today i have seen this on a spanish ib

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/30/politics/donald-trump-ufo-videos-response/index.html

and i wonder..are UFO's real? and if they were that mean that we were wrong all time?

NGL i am scared

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Islam debunk thread

Can anons please point out the greatest reasons why Islam is illogical to believe, as well as great resources whether they be videos or books. I’d prefer from Cathodox or secular sources

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Does life begin at conception if it's in a test tube

i.e. if the egg is fertilized in a test tube and never sees the inside of a uterus

Give me your best arguments for why taking advantage embryonic stem cells to heal a disease is morally wrong, and even for why it's not.

Give me bible verses that say life begins at conception.

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Got a question /christian/

Explain me this:

God creates a boy that is born into a Christian family, this boy is raised Christian, taught Christianity is correct, and taught that all other religions are heresy.

This Christian boy has complete faith in his version of Christianity.

This boy is rewarded in heaven.

God creates a boy that is born into a Muslim family, this boy is raised Muslim, taught Islam is correct, and taught that all other religions are heresy.

This Muslim boy has complete faith in his version of Islam.

This boy is punished in hell.

How can God justify rewarding the Christian and punishing the Muslim?

They're both just products of their environment. One was just lucky, the other was unlucky.

Alternatively explain this:

You’re an atheist, you know almost nothing about religion.

Infront of you stand a priest and an imam, both tell you that the other is wrong and that he is right. Both tell you that if you don’t follow their religion you’ll be sent to hell.

How can God expect you to choose the correct one? It’s literally just a coinflip for you on which one you believe.

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How are demons created?

Question for you christian friends: how are demons created?

Considering God wouldn't create evil creatures (I suppose). I'm guessing they are all "fallen angels" that rebel against God, pretty much exactly like Lucifer. Am I correct in that assumption?

Also, if this is true, why would they choose to do evil, don't they know they'll be damned for eternity for this?

And lastly, can a demon be redeemd and go back to being an angel or at least a creture that's no longer "demonic"?

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Was Jesus Black?

I see some people say that Jesus actually had black skin. Are they right?

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tl;dr: liberal vs conservative protestantism

OC for the ignorant who point to fag enabler "protestants" as if it's an argument

thanks for your attention

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What is Vatican 2?

Hello anons, I haven't been taking my faith nor was I studying it until as of recent and god guiding me to my senses, I haven't heard of a Vatican 2 until just yesterday, been hearing some bad things about it especially here anyone mind filling me in?

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A good books on the evils of paganism.

Hello, lads. Recently watched Midsommar with the wife. It reminded me of when I came back to Christianity as a young adult. I was interested in the dark parts of this world, and was fascinated a bit by evil. The otherworldly and frightening things done by non-Christians turned me to God. I wanted to know more so I could ward myself against it and warn others, because so little is known amongst the common folks.

Anyway, this movie reminded me of Wicker Man, stories of druids murdering people and of the true origin of bobbing for apples, sacrificing people and children to "gods" for some blessing. The truly wicked things that are part of European paganism and other pagan religions that LARPers would wish to brush under the rug or simply lie to say it didn't exist.

Is there any sort of book or books that are trustworthy accounts and history of pagan evils written from a Christian persepctive? In this age of LARPagans pushing for a reawakening, especially on /pol/ and other "right-wing" outlets, I want to be able to be knowledgeable about the subject. Be they of any LARP sect: germanic, gaelic, slavic, etc. I want to know of their evils so I can shine light on them and rebuke them.

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Catholic Books

I'm interested in learning about the Catholic faith and possibly convert. And I would like to have some suggestions for books to read about faith and theology. I've heard the catechism is a good place to start. Should I get the new edition or the Council of Trent edition?

Thanks.

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Translations

>Top Tier

Authorized Version 1769

New American Standard Bible

English Standard Version

>High Tier

New King James

Christian Standard Bible

New Revised Standard Version

>Mid Tier

1984 New International Version

New American Bible

>Low Tier

2011 New International Version

>Paraphrases for Children Tier

The Message

Good News Bible

Living Bible

>Honorable Mention

Open English Bible

World English Bible

1611 Authorized

>Not even a direct translation tier, do not use alone

Douay-Rheims

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Why use the KJV

Suppose you use modern versions of the Bible. Now imagine in 2021 after the elections the 'Tel Aviv scrolls' are suddenly located in the basement of Rav Schlomo Goldstein; The paper– but not the ink– is dated to the second century. It removes the ending of Matthew and several key fragments regarding the identity of Christ, and the Lord's supper. It also comes with thousands of other word changes. James White immediately makes an official press statement: "This discovery changes everything. We need to fundamentally rework our whole understanding of and preconceptions about what the New Testament actually says. Everyone and everything before this moment was missing this key discovery."

Not mentioned in any of the advertisements, however, for the new bibles is the fact that the place where it was discovered also contained some copies of ancient gnostic texts and several partially written hybrid gospels resembling the nag hammadi apocryphal texts.

Anyone who doesn't use these new bibles is laughed at for not using the new more readable genderfluid translations. Such as the "And such were some of you" 2nd millenium platinum edition gaia standard version with neo-strong's 21st century compliant concordance. More conservative folks find a compromise with this, by placing the thirteen new translations (one made for each gender and intersectional identity) and one or two "old ones" side by side and going with whatever the majority says. The neo-bibles are placed side by side with "traditional" ones on comparison charts and people discuss their preferences without any apparent regard for the fact that some of them are missing half of Matthew 28 and 37 or so other verses. Apparently those aren't scripture anymore in case you somehow thought they were.

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Bible verses that call out (((Jews)))

I'm looking for more verses that call out the (((Jews))), aka pharisees, for what they are.

I know the common one; Revelation 2:9, I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

But to create a strong argument I really need more than just this one example.

I am sure, I have seen a list of them before but either didn't save it or it is lost in the mess that is my unsorted files.

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KJV Onlyists

Why can't KJV onlyists get along with another? From what I understand, Steven Anderson, Bryan Denlinger, Gene Kim and Robert Breaker all seem to mutually hate each other.

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Scripture, tradition, reason, experience

How do these four interact?

Agree or disagree with the image?

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Higher power

Whats everybody thoughts on a modern day Jesus christ?

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Can you become an independent Christian who only reads the Bible?

Was a catholic

Left, became Buddhist

Realized through fear that there must be God (YhWH), from all of these satanic cults

I did critical thinking, there is no such thing as Buddhism , there is the ultimately reality and the practices of seeing ultimate reality.

The dhamma doesn't have a dogma, there's no prerequisite of a God. You're not required to believe everything, only the things that you have tested that have been beneficial to you.

Thus, the tools and ethis of Siddartha can be retrofitted or practiced along side Christianity. (note: not Catholicism).

The Pope and the Vatican, the supposed leaders of faith, what have they done to ease the suffering of the poor? What have they done to extend and live the practices of Jesus? Why do Catholic clergymen abuse children?

Conclusion: the catholic cult isn't the representation of the word of Jesus. They are men and full of sin. As we all are.

My question: how does one affiliate with z Jesus without the Catholic faith and dogma? I've looked into Easter Orthodix but thats as far as I've gone. What is the minimum requirement to YIELD fealty and follow Jesus. Not man, nor his corrupted practices.

I've been reading stuff from inplainsite.org

Interested to hear your opinions.

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Catholics Are NOT Christian

Mary worship and idolatry. You can call it 'reverence', but you're still praying to bathtub statues and have marian processions with incense and chanting. It's goddess worship and you're delusional if you think otherwise.

Your leaders are in clear violation of scripture.

> Timothy 3: Bishop must have 1 wife, and have children

Not a celibate pederast, who sets themselves as holier than others.

Romans 1 fully covers your folly:

> 22: Professing themselves wise, they became fools (Encyclicals and other nonsense against scripture)

> 23: and changed the glory of uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man (Your pictures of saints, Mary, and hippy 'Jesus' that you bow to)

> 24: God gave them up to uncleanness through lusts (All the pedo faggotry)

> 25: Who changed the word of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator (Listen to your Popes and Bishops, it used to be forbidden to even read the Bible in Catholicism)

> For this cause God gave them up to vile affections (Yep, pederastry)

Also the concept of a pope is directly against scripture:

> Matt 23:9 Do not call anyone on earth 'father', for you have one Father, in heaven

To the Catholics on this board you have a very clear choice. Believe in Jesus and the Holy Spirit, read your Bible and ask humbly for guidance. Or follow a bunch of fallible men using religion as a political tool.

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Chans and nsfw

I have two question to all christians who acess chans:

-if expose yourself to sin it's a sin in itself, why you keep acessing sites like these?

-if you dons't acess chans with nsfw,can you recommend some boards?

As the most part of the western mans, I have problems with masturbation, but i don't want to stop acessing image boards.

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Did I accept the mark of the beast?

tl;dr I think I wrote the Mark on my hand as a kid (and I'm left handed, so it would be on my right hand also), what do I do?

Since I was a kid, I've been struggling with intrusive thoughts, extremely blasphemous/sexual thoughts. I remember as a kid confronting my mom when I was having thoughts about our Savior which I can't speak of on this board, even before I knew what all of it was. When I was an atheist/Norse Pagan they went away, but when I came back to being a Christian, through pure physical necessity because my life was falling around me, the thoughts came back. Cursing God, incredibly violent, grotesque and sexual images regarding the most important parts of being a Christian.

Then one day, when I felt the urge to write 666 on my hand, but resisted, I then suddenly remembered a time when I was very young when I did, or didn't maybe. I was so young and I'm not sure if it actually happened, maybe I wrote it with a marker, or if I wrote it on a piece of paper, or I didn't finish it, idk. But either way it has shaken my life as a Christian. I thought God was with me, in the times a miracle happened where absolutely it should have been the opposite, when I felt God bring me to church, when I felt the Holy Spirit. But now this has changed everything.

I prayed to God many times as to what actually happened that day, I have read that the Mark of the Beast doesn't exist yet so you can't get it due to intrusive thoughts, and I notice the things I thought God has done for me in this life, but what if it was all for nothing? The blasphemous thoughts caused problems before, but now I feel the urge to drop everything, drop the church, drop Christianity, go back to paganism, regardless of whether or not it happened. why does any of it matter now?

I need advice from other Christians on this board.

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chans

What good boards and chans do you know that nsfw and tempting images are not posted?

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Pope Encourages Muslims to Pray to Allah During Universal Day of Prayer

http://archive.is/70DKh

>While we reaffirm the role of medicine and scientific research in fighting this pandemic, we should not forget to seek refuge in God, the All-Creator, as we face such severe crisis. Therefore, we call on all peoples around the world to do good deeds, observe fast, pray, and make devout supplications to God Almighty to end this pandemic. Each one from wherever they are and according to the teachings of their religion, faith, or sect, should implore God to lift this pandemic off us and the entire world, to rescue us all from this adversity, to inspire scientists to find a cure that can turn back this disease, and to save the whole world from the health, economic, and human repercussions of this serious pandemic

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Free will doesn't exist

I'm sorry, but the idea of free will is frankly idiotic. To say we have free will is to say we control the way our brains process and interpret information, but it's quite the contrary actually. Our brain works in a certain because of millions of factors outside of our control. We can't control the way our biological body is or where we are born and how we are raised.

Let's say person A does a good action and person B does a bad action. We could think that person A is a better person compared to person B but that isn't true at all. Person A and B are simply vastly different and can't be compared. If person A had the same body as B and was raised exactly like B was, he would chose the bad action just like B. No free will at all, just circumstances.

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Dinosaurs and Creation

I still can't put my fingers on how dinosaurs fit into creation.

I can't just write them off as a hoax. Logically speaking, there's no way anyone would be able to keep a hoax going on this long, and I find it to be a shame that atheists push a creation of God in such a way to turn people away from Him.

Yet I find it hard to believe the idea that they lived alongside man, with some exceptions. Yes, I fully accept that the Behemoth is some kind of sauropod. But with every species of prehistoric animal there is, why do we find ancient bestiaries with only animals that we know to exist today or at least in their time period? Bears, lions, apes etc. Mythical creatures mean squat. Anyone can make up a monster, video game developers and tabletop GMs today do it all the time.

Did God just intend for us to have an industrial revolution(yes I know, consequences, disaster, etc) at some point so he let them all die off and become fossil fuels?

It's something I'm dying to ask Him when I enter the kingdom. I know it shouldn't bug me as much as it does but it's something I just can't shake.

Can someone point me in the right direction for answers?

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prayer thread

St. Patrick pray for us in these difficult times where we are being plagued with coronavirus. Amen.

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Demonology

Are there any tips on studying demonology? In both researching the subject and protecting myself from demonic activity.

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The Sabbath

Is the Sabbath on Saturday or Sunday?

Why did the Catholic decree the first day of the Week to be the Sabbath? (Sunday)

When all of history, the Sabbath has always been Saturday? Even the name Sabbath lends its translation to be Saturday.

Also, how do you keep the Sabbath holy? How do you 'rest'? Is there guidance in the Scripture?

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Black people

What's the christian stand point on the black problem in america? Do we pretend nothing is going on and just say people are people and ignore the crime rate, is it ungodly to think they're pos? Please help me anon with this question I don't know what to think

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Euro Paganism Discussion

Collect infographics and discuss the neopagan phenomenon itt

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God Punishing the West

Is Anon right? Is God punishing white Westerners for their embrace of secularism, nihilism and hedonism by flooding their countries with third-world savages?

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THE TIME IS NEAR

REVELATION 6-11

REVELATION 6-11

REVELATION 6-11

BEHOLD, BEHOLD, THE TIME IS NEAR, THAT TERRIBLE AND AWESOME DAY OF THE LORD IS COMING. GOD HAS SENT HIS PLAGUE ON THOSE WHO DWELL ON THE EARTH. WOE WOE WOE TO THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH. THESE ARE ONLY THE BEGINNING OF WOES. AND BEHOLD THERE ARE STILL MORE WOES TO COME. BLESSED ARE THEY WHO ARE THE SEALED 144,000 WHOSE NAME IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN.

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Bible?

Ok so as I understand it the Orthodox basically use the LXX and the Majority Text for their biblical tradition while the Catholics primarily go off the Vulgate and Protestants go the opposite direction of the Orthodox in terms of the Old Testament, choosing the MT tradition instead, but their Textus Receptus is mostly based off of the Orthodox Majority Text. So who is right? Which textual tradition is the best or the one which is inspired? Do they prove the Churches that base themselves off of them? I hope to foster a genuine discussion here as I need to know which Church is the correct Church.

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Why do demons hate Mary so much?

>devote yourself to Jesus

<"pfft big deal so what"

>devote yourself to Jesus and Mary

<"SEND ALL OUR CONTROLLED HUMANS AFTER HIM AND GIVE HIM HORRIFYING NIGHTMARES AND ANXIETY ATTACKS!!!"

This also explains why Catholic nations are less successful even when they're high quality stock like Poles, Irish, and North Italians. The demons put a ton of effort into thwarting people devoted to Our Lady.

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The background for "Jesus was a Jew"

Its my understanding that the "Jesus was a Jew" meme comes from an intentional mistranslation of the bible to make the goyim easier to control.

Could some saintly anon please spoon feed the answer to this since I can't find it and yes I've been looking.

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Contraceptive use within marriage?

Cathodox bros, what is the traditional

on intercourse for purposes other than procreation in marriage, provided that

1. The heterosexual couple is married, both in the Church, and otherwise celibate

2. The conception of children is not avoided, but, for whatever practical reason like finances for food, clothing, schooling etcetera, or age, limited, past a certain point

So, let's say, ideally, if a man and a woman are married for 10 years and 10 children are , but a woman is still fertile, is it unlawful in this scenario for the couple to use contraceptive measures such as condoms/NFP?

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Evolution doesn't make sense within the Biblical world view?

So assuming theistic evolution is true of the world, where do Adam and Eve fit in timeline wise? At least within the last 10,000 years? Or maybe tens or hundreds of thousands of years? Potentially millions? And if Adam and Eve existed alongside other Humans (Cain's wife????) then how would that make sense soteriologically and anthropologically? Did the other humans have souls? So… Were they also originally immortal? Wouldn't that imply multiple Adams and Eves? How would original sin spread if this is not the case though? It is unorthodox to speculate it could be a "collective sin" of some kind, I think everyone agrees it has to be ancestral in nature, if not, then how would Christ's death at the cross cover all of mankind? Shouldn't it then only cover a select few special families of people??????? Now evolution theory does admit that there was a single pair of humans we all come from and that eventually all lines interbreed, but this happened numerous times. But then what of Cain's wife or Seth's wife? It seems that evolution theory doesn't logically make sense within the Biblical worldview… Or can it? Somehow?

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can i be anti israel but christian??

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>be me

>converted to Orthodox Christianity

>try to honor my atheist mother and lukewarm father but really just want to withdraw from them

>catechism says avoid association with atheists

What to do? Please let’s try to avoid denominational issues, concentrate on the issue.

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Does God make people gay?

Does He, why? Why do I have to live alone my whole life, why did He make it a sin?

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Once saved always saved

How can anyone honestly believe in this lunacy?

Matthew 7

>15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

>20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

>21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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How do you choose a Bible?

I want to read the KJV, however choosing one has proved more difficult than I thought. I am bombarded with works by Thomas Nelson. Is he a good source to start with?

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Mutt Protestants have 66 books

Meanwhile the Catholics have 73. Muh Sola Scriptura. Muh Sola Fide.

Truly biblical

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Drugs and psychedelics

I know taking psychedelics risky. But is smoking marijuana or tobacco to relax a sin?

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tl;dr

I would like to make a page on the new wiki that links the best concise non-strawman arguments for the hot topics around here.

What are the 10 most common arguments here?

>Is the apocrypha canon?

>Was Peter the rock upon which the church was built?

>Is salvation sola fide?

>Have miraculous gifts ceased?

>Is the shroud legitimate?

>Is paedobaptism Biblical?

>Sedevacantism?

>Primacy of the bishop of Rome?

Don't argue these questions ITT, but share what you think should be included in the list and any sources that you think make the best arguments

For example, this is a concise article from the protestant perspective against the apocrypha as scripture https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_395.cfm

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shameful

>there are literally people on this board who have committed the sin of masturbation but haven't cut off their hand and/or genitals to appease God

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Board culture

The topics discussed here are by nature contentious. Everyone needs to chill out.

Imageboard culture and the online disinhibition effect lends to vile posting attitudes

For our collective benefit, DO NOT:

-Commit ad hominen ("heretic" no elaboration given)

-Generalize/strawman (Papist/Prots can't read the bible")

-Misrepresent your discussion partner

-Jump between talking points, changing the subject

DO:

Mock any poster who gets mad

funpost

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catholic seeking to understand protestantism

Can you guys recommend me some resources to understand protestantism? Please don't just say the Bible.

Is Calvin's institutes a good place to start?

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Subversive jewish memes

>you should only believe in Christianity because it works, God doesn't actually exist

>Christianity is good because I say Jesus says to be a cuck

>jews are the ancient Israelites and must be returned to Israel to make God happy

>St. Thomas Aquinas is too pagan and shouldn't be taken seriously

>Mary was not sinless

>Jesus is the Logos but Logos means something like order or imaginary friend or word, anything but logic

>don't rebel against corrupt authority even though Jesus rebelled against corrupt authority

>Paul is a pharisee and full of bulls—

>John is a schizo and full of bulls—

>jews are our judeo-Christian friends and totally not a competing group parasiting off and corrupting our culture

>porn is fine, it doesn't affect the woman

>God hates ethnonationalism because my high school teacher said Hitler is bad

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pic unrelated

why are catholics so condescending about being

>da originel cherch

They act like there isn't another church in the east which claims exactly the same thing, they think they have some kind of Monopoly over Christianity it's funny because they always screech about Protestant removing books from the Bible when according to the Orthodox they also removed books from the Bible. Catholics are literally Protestants to the Orthodox, now I'm not even Orthodox and nor would i ever want to be since they are idolaters too but it just goes to show that Catholics more or less just love the smell of their own farts and can't see past themselves

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would any of you call yourself rational?

so i went to church at times as a kid but pretty much stopped going by my teens

religion wasn't that big a thing at home

eventually became athiest when i thought about how silly it sounded

never read the bible

only remember snacks in sunday school and seeing Jesus crucified being creepy

anyways, when Jordan Peterson got big, i started seeing that religion could be more reasonable than I thought

that it could be took as a set of stories containing wisdom

i haven't finished the bible since then, but it has made me wonder about religion in general

i think of God as the universe/natural order of things

not some literal guy in the sky that does things, but as a way of describing the chaos of life

do any of you here actually believe in everything the bible says?

do you see religion similarly?

what do you think of the Jesus loves you thing?

what do you think of the lack of faith nowadays?

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The absolute state of cathocucks

The absolute state

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Baptism

Baptism is by immersion. The word baptism itself is a transliteration of the greek which means "I immerse, I dip, I submerge".

It is to be performed after confession of faith: credobaptism as opposed to on infants: pedobaptism. This is what the Bible teaches.

Pedobaptists have been playing word games for centuries but the credobaptist argument continues to win out. You are saved by faith, then you are to be baptized.

If your church practices baptism of infants and/or doesn't practice baptism by immersion, it's time to start asking questions.

"Baptists" as a tradition aren't the only ones to view it this way, that's just the namesake doctrine. It is very popular opinion across the evangelical protestant world, and there are even Roman Catholic parishes who practice baptism by immersion (though not exclusively and with a different understanding).

Do you know your church's doctrine of baptism and can you defend it?

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Catholic War Crimes

>Miroslav Filipović (5 June 1915 – 1946), also known as Tomislav Filipović and Tomislav Filipović-Majstorović, was a Bosnian Croat Franciscan friar and Ustashe military chaplain who participated in atrocities during World War II in Yugoslavia.[1] Convicted as a war criminal in a Yugoslav civil court, he was executed by hanging in 1946.

>For the duration of the war, the Vatican kept full diplomatic relations with the Independent State of Croatia and was briefed on the efforts of the Ustaše to convert ethnic Serbs to Catholicism. Some former priests, mostly Franciscans, particularly in, but not limited to, Herzegovina and Bosnia, took part in the atrocities themselves. Filipović-Majstorović joined the Ustaše on 7 February 1942 in a brutal massacre of 2,730 Serbs of the nearby villages, including 500 children. He was reportedly subsequently dismissed from his order. He became the Chief Guard of the Jasenovac concentration camp where he was nicknamed "Fra Sotona" ("Brother Satan") due to his sadism. When he was hanged for war crimes, he wore his clerical garb, although some claim he had been defrocked.[2]

>including 500 children

>"Brother Satan"

Can't make this up.

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Pope just banned shitposting

https://news.trust.org/item/20200226110650-39cfh

Oh no what do we do guys

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Sodomite military not worth serving

>Most anti-christian military in the west

>Won’t allow recruits to wear crosses in Afghanistan

>Allows to fly sodomites flags in bases in the Middle East

No christian should be dying for ((America))

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/air-force-cracking-down-on-christians

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Were the Greek philosophers prophets?

St. Paul says Epimenides was a prophet in a Titus 1:12. Does this mean the other philosophers like Plato and Socrates may have been prophets? They did make a lot of correct assertions about God after all.

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Protestantism > Catholicism

Well lads, I guess pic related settles it. Protestantism is superior to Catholicism.

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Art Thread

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Is there any worse a fraud than this?

>claims to be follower of Christ

>never reads from the Bible

>constantly begging for money

>501c3 image of the beast

<Matthew 6:24, Matthew 22:21, Mark 12:17, Luke 20:25, Titus 1:10-11

>only makes political statements (501c3 forbids any political statements)

>never bothered by IRS for it (HMMMM…)

>constantly begging for money

>"banned" from all the common social networks to give credibility to alt-news

>always blaming da j00s for everything (less than 14 million of ~7 billion in 2010)

>ignores the Vat-of-sin elephant in the room

>constantly begging for money

>ignores Rome's many blasphemies and never-ending scandals

>ignores Rome's hand in the emerging NWO, homo agendas, and climate agendas

>censors comments which post scripture, Bible references, or even mention Pope or Vat-of-sin

>constantly begging for money

Seriously, is there anyone worse?

All those mega-church Jesuit false preachers are easily spotted as con men who worship money but at least they try to pretend being Christian by reading a few Bible verses out of context and then talking for an hour, giving their own opinion which twists the out-of-contest Bible verses. All it takes is reading a Bible to spot their lies.

But "Brother Nathanael" is just e-begging for some dinky website 24/7 without saying one Bible verse ever. He only makes dumb schizoid political statements trying to distract from Jesuits and the beast in Rome and the image of the beast in the USA. Some of his schizo graphic collages aren't bad, but they're all politics and have nothing to do with the Bible.

Is there any worse a fraud than this?

>inb4catholics cry about Martin Luther for naming the Pope as antichrist and his seat as the seat of Satan

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A simple observation

If Baptists put as much effort into studying The Bible and history as they do into hating Catholics, they would be Orthodox by now.

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Where can i get the Orthodox study bible from to read for free?

I'm trying to find the Orthodox study bible to read for free, anyone have the pdf link so i cam read it? God bless

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Why is Christendom an unpleasant place to live?

Why is Europe a poor, overly religious, violent, obese, dumb backwater with school shootings in a McDonald's in a Walmart where you can purchase guns to stop said shooting? I don't understand why Europeans are like this as you would expect their Christianity to ensure they would all be good and not engage in sin and vice.

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What happens when Israel builds the Third Temple?

What will happen will they do it.

They've already got all pieces and are just waiting. https://www.templeinstitute.org/gallery_49.htm

I

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American cucktoons degeneracy

>ten years ago, um sweetie honey, allowing open homosexuals and deviants won't impact animation

>currently over half of the animations released either are set in hell, proclaims there's no god in existence, all rampant furry pandering, empowered womyn emasculating males and no family units portrayed

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Vatican Controlled Roman Catholicism is antichrist

This man was the last true Pope. The institution in Rome right now is not the true Papacy, it is antichrist just as Our Lady predicted.

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KJV Only

Why would you use anything other than the KJV? All other "versions" are demonic. The KJV Bible alone is inspired, it alone preserves the word of Almighty God.

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The subtlety of Sola Fide

Question, don't the boomers who simply say "believe and be saved" have the most subtle philosophy possible? I know it doesn't seem like it, but I feel as if makes a lot more sense now in light of Ecclesiastes and Job, not to mention Greek philosophy.

My argument is that Sola Fide adopts a position of complete skepticism, similar to that of Pyrrho; nothing matters except the ἀταραξία one gets from faith in God, since all knowledge is dubitable and produces sorrow (as we learn from Ecclesiastes).

Thoughts?

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Empty inside

My passion is gone. I can't bant or debate anymore. I care about everyone's feelings now despite everyone hurting mine. I no longer have the passion to pursue converting people to Christianity or spreading right wing beliefs. On rare days I do tomorrow is immediately followed by suicidal depression. Why would God let my passion and voice disappear when I was trying my whole life to do his will and save people and spread his values?

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$

Is it possible to be a Christian and also in the finance / business sector or really any occupation such as software engineering in which you sacrifice happiness for money, or in which your life is oriented around the accumulation of money?

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Is the only way to Jesus through His mother?

I already know what prots are going to say but I'm hoping some people argue for yes.

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Justification theology

Is justification theology a paradox?

>Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.

>The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.

>I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’

>But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’

>I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other.

>For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.

Seems like the whole notion of justification theology would be antithetical to Christ’s teaching in the first place because it would open the door to Christian Phariseeism.

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Orthodoxy without Palamas

I think Orthodoxy is superior in all aspects except Palamas and the icon kissing, which are cringe. Is Thomist metaphysics and not kissing the icons compatible with Eastern/Oriental Orthodoxy or should I just become Eastern Rite Catholic?

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Resources to strenghten my belief

Any media books/videos/links/images that rationally prove the existence of God and Jesus or on the history of Christianity. Something like pic related

I'm looking for something without a christian bias that even an atheist could read.

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>if you're a homosexual I hope you get brain cancer like Ted Kennedy

Now was this called for? Are all Christians like this?

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Feeling God

I had a strange experience when i went to a Christian retreat, we sang together and went to church three times a day. in the middle of it i felt a peacefulness in my chest. When i got home and sinned, the peacefulness turned into a sharp pain and it was gone.

It's really subjective but i know that it's not there anymore, i feel nothing. I know God doesn't leave us. Has anyone experienced this or something similar, feeling God could be proof that God is really there, although i always knew he was real.

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Are Protestants Christians According to Catholics?

Watch and discuss

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Logic and God?

So I've been studying set theory and the Zermelo–Fraenkel axioms of set theory right now and it seems that Heraclitus's and Philo's Logos, the same we read about in Genesis 1:3-30, Psalm 33:6, John 1:1, etc., is closely related somehow to this. Obviously God is beyond comprehension to us. Yet mathematical logic ontologically implies at least "mathematical" Platonism, although propositions can be modeled logically, mathematical statements are propositions in fact. Some Mathematicians would retreat into Formalism, but I think Formalism and Platonism can be reconciled. At the fundamental level we cannot prove mathematical statements, we cannot even prove the rules of natural numbers. But it seems that somehow a consistent and proven (set of axioms) can actually describe something about the real world, after all the whole purpose of the game is to create some sort of casual relationship between objects. How do we access this basic knowledge and construct rules from it? I think it's just the way we think, and even though I have some disagreements with Kant in a lot of areas, mathematics seems to be synthetic a priori. Ultimately the nature of reality seems to rest a great deal inside of Mathematics, Logic, propositions… Logos? The Logos? Something related? I just hesitate to go too far with this, pantheism (a.k.a atheism) is not an option here.

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Copts?

Thoughts on Coptic Christians?

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7 Ecumenical Councils

Were there errors in any of the 7 Ecumenical Councils?

I find it difficult to believe the Holy Spirit was not infallible in his guidance of these councils as he was in Acts 15. However some reformers, e.g. Calvin, claim there were errors in even the first 7.

While I'm not sure I agree with it, I can understand the argument rejecting the councils after the East/West Schism. But what grounds would one have for rejecting the first seven, when the whole church was united? What are these errors that are spoken of?

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Is this sinful?

Is imageboard culture sinful? I'm sure a lot of you have noticed the sexually explicit anomie adds even on this board. Just go to the /b/ on one of the other numerous chans and you might stumble into some form of CP. Are we being hypocritical? I am not questioning anyone's sincerity here but lately it's been weighing on my conscious and I need guidance.

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Spanish Inquisition?

What do you think about the inquisition, /christian/s? Should Christian nations burn heretics and heathens? Is it our moral duty to combat evil even with systematized persecution?

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Is Steven Anderson a Christian?

the Bible says not to hate one another and he seems to pride himself on this.

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Why Catholics are incapable of thought -- they're too scared/afraid

They're cowards by their genetics. They are genetic cowards. When Rome started their inquisitions and persecutions, they demanded people bow to and worship the Pope (man) instead of God (creator). Those who left the old world (Europe) and fled to the new world (America) left because they were tired of Roman persecution (it had nothing to do with taxes). The people who are still in the Catholic Church today are genetically cowards, their parents and grandparents before them were cowards who feared man rather than God and they continue their family tradition of fearing men rather than God (which the Bible explicitly speaks against – any true Christian knows this verse without looking it up, I doubt the Catholics do though – and if they do know it, then they truly believe the blasphemy of Rome when the Popes claim to be gods on earth and demand worship [like the ancient world rulers] and claim to be more powerful than God).

>Roman Catholics are under a strong delusion. See 2Thessalonians 2:10 and on. Not much can be done as the only reason for being Roman Catholic is based on fear. What I mean is, all Catholics today are the ancestors to the weak Christians who during the Inquisitions of Rome wherein hundreds of millions were tortured and killed by the Catholic priests, they all refused to accept Jesus as Lord because they feared being burned alive and buried alive if they denounced the Popes and their easily proven false doctrines.

>Satan has all Catholics in a strong vice of heresy wherein many approaches have come up useless to help them see. But, there’s still hope. My experience over the many years of trying is, still share the seeds of truth with them, because they cannot unhear them, and then pray for the Lord to send more with the same truths over the years. But keep praying because prayer seems to be the only way most are pulled away from the lies of Rome as well as the many printed facts shared with them from time to time wherein eventually the seeds planted by the caring Christians sprout fruit and they leave the church.

>There is so much dirt on the Roman church that finding something to show the Catholics about how evil their leaders are is an easy task. So much so that in just the last decade or so I have been able to compile quite a large pile on my site that is filled with information about all the prelates of Rome from the Vatican leaders to the cloistered nun.

>The most popular pages to date that have helped some Catholics see are the “Black Pope” page( http://www.remnantofgod.org/blackpope.htm ), the “Actual first Pope” page( http://www.remnantofgod.org/pope1.htm )and the “Characteristics of Antichrist” page( http://www.remnantofgod.org/666-CHAR.htm ). Sharing some of these facts time and again may eventually hit the mark in their hearts that has fertile soil and a child of God can be born.

>Truth is, thanks to the evil antics of the present Jesuit Pope, it’s become somewhat easier at times to help some Catholics see today. But, be prepared. Even though I have a mountain of evidence and even though I have all the sources to back up the facts and many of them are from the Vatican archives themselves; some Catholics will use the age old excuse that those facts are bogus. But, if that were the case, why is the mountain so large? One would think the still ongoing molestations would convince many to leave, but sin, as it is well embraced by the dogma of Roman Catholicism, which by the way is 86% Pagan ( http://www.remnantofgod.org/666-CHAR.htm#13 ), and they actually admit this in writing ( http://www.remnantofgod.org/beastword.htm#babylon ), it is still a powerful tool for Satan to keep the people in his clutches because the flesh is an easy tool to use against most people. As strange as that may seem, but is always the case, we are all our own worst enemies when it comes to the reasons some will burn. After all, just as salvation is a choice, so is the sin some choose over it.

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Religion is the opium of the people.

Prove me wrong Xians Pro tip: You can't.

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Are we in the end times now?

Is coronavirus a sign of the end times?

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Debate with Hinduism

Hindu here. Anyone interested in a debate? Why is Abrahamic religions so hell-bent on insisting that only their methods of worship is valid and other methods ought to be destroyed?

If God is one, then why not let others worship god like how they want to and and learn to live and let live?

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Higher Education

How do we, as Christians, prevent this future for our daughters (and sons) ?

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Pope Francis considers Marxism

At least the Marxist agreed with the Bible that he who doesn't work doesn't eat.

Those who are Marxist cannot be in communion with the Holy Mother Church, as they have an ongoing mortal sin that they don't repent of. This has long been Church teaching.

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How do we tell the difference from an angel to a fallen angel? Would demons just look like regular angels? Beings of light.

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Church Architecture Thread

Post some AESTHETIC looking churches and share idea on proper church construction and design.

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Bible Translations

> I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Isaiah 45:7 KJV

This is a very poor rendering by the KJV.

0. The greek (κακά) or hebrew (ra) don't necessarily translate to "evil", but have broader meanings.

1. The parallelism doesn't even fit, light and dark are polar opposites, but peace and evil are not polar opposites.

2. Theologically it speaks a blasphemy, that God creates evil as such.

3. It forces us to do extra apologetics, giving atheists and non-christians ammunition, for what should be a very unproblematic verse.

While I appreciate KJV for it's beauty, I think it loses some accuracy points. The NKJV reaches a better balance, followed by the ESV second.

What are your thoughts?

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Monk Mentality

Before this quarantine my life was exactly the same. When there aren't any college classes to attend my days are spent wholly on reading and listening to classical music in my room, and due to my lack of social skills I hold no interest in going to church or interacting with others in real life. Can I still be a christian despite my conditions? I'm a twenty something man with no sexual or romantic experiences behind me, and I recently resigned myself to a life of chastity because I am not suited for the current attractiveness standards.

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Cross-denominational and secular music/art?

Is it considered ecumenism or otherwise unlawful/even sinful to belong to one denomination and yet spend most of one's time looking at the aesthetics, listening to and identifying with that which belongs to the catholic church, because I'm a European and that is what I grew up with albeit by proxy? Truly I have no idea when I would have approached the Faith had I not been exposed to said aesthetics as a young 'un, and I have found myself very moved by it all perhaps just for nostalgic reasons. But even secular music like Boards of Canada has moved me more than some Church music, I feel and am afraid to say, and I don't know where it is just to draw the line exactly.

Orthodox aesthetics are equally beautiful to me, if that makes sense, but I don't feel the same from them. In my experience, catholic and even later thus reformed medieval Christian aesthetics are part of the same biblical world the secular world is just not part of, just at a much later time in a different, less sand-covered place, but with the same aesthetics, law, etc, and I appreciate it thusly, never minding the surface-level differences because it seems like a valid progression to me. It is starting to sound a little heretical and I'm just wondering, am I, a very fallible and viscerally minded man confusing that moving and has Church music actually done more for me, while I've just not realized it?

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Mercy for the merciless?

I have a conundrum that is on my heart right now. It's not something I'm currently dealing with, but in this sinful world it's only a matter of time before things get savage.

I think we all agree that forgiveness and mercy are things a good Christian should be willing to give to someone who's willing to take it. I'll say that's a given for the purposes of this conversation.

What if, however, you have the upper hand on true evil, and you know that such a creature will turn on you the minute you offer your hand in friendship? What if you have a choice between finishing that evil off or letting it escape to do more harm? "Vengeance is mine," sayeth the Lord, but what if God has put one in that situation to carry out His will?

This vexes me greatly. I've seen examples in fiction (how many murders committed by the Joker are on Batman's head for not stopping him permanently?) and in my personal life where someone gave mercy to a nasty person that should have been put down like the rabid animal it was. This doesn't necessarily mean killing, but also ruining the evil person or denying them access to their weapons of choice.

When are we allowed to cross the line and permanently stop someone?

>Disclaimer: I'm not planning such a confrontation, now or ever. But anyone that tries to hurt my loved ones during Tribulation will be denied the ability to walk at the very least if I get the drop on them.

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Why is this board so anti-protestant?

Is there any argument against protestants other than "muh Peter"?

Judaism was shit and utterly corrupted by the time Jesus was born and he utterly destroyed it. Now, I realise Luther is no substitute for Jesus but the catholic church was shit and utterly corrupted and it was time it was reformed. If something was corrupted by Satan, would you still follow it because Jesus did not descend and explicitly tell you to stop worshipping it?

Besides, their catechesis and the five solae make a lot of sense. Their communities are nice and helpful and not as rigid and strict. They have no mentally ill communist pope. They have no pedo-priest problems.

So why would I not want to be a protestant in the year of the lord 2020?

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Which Protestant Denomination is for me?

Over the last few months I've gained a renewed interest in faith, and I would like to follow my ancestors in their footsteps in becoming a true God fearing Protestant. The problem that I am facing, however, is that I am unsure as to what denomination I should pursue.

My grandfather and grandmother were Anglican, and proudly so. Thus it feels imperative to me that I should go down that path as well. Admittedly though, the current state of the Anglican Communion is pretty disturbing and quite frankly disgusting.

If I were to dedicate myself to Anglicanism I would join the Church of Ireland. They aren't as bad as the Church of England, but they still permit gay marriage and have ordained women to all offices. It should be noted that the Anglican Churches in Northern Ireland, where I live, have never, to my knowledge, facilitated the marriage of sodomites, given that it only has been a legal matter in Northern Ireland as of late 2019. Also, Northern Ireland still has a large base of true conservative Christians, so I am unsure as to the extent that the degeneracy of the mainland has fostered itself in my local parishes here in Northern Ireland.

Another source of my doubt has been Rev. Ian Paisley's formidable sermons and speeches about the need for the rebirth of Christian militancy in our views and actions. This passion is something that I have yearned for quite a long time now. I am fully convinced the Church of Ireland will remain impotent and feeble, and as such unable to answer this yearning. I am aware this might seem rather pompous and egoistic, however, I find it of extreme importance that whatever Church I join has the capability and capacity to become militant and ambitious in its efforts to grow.

So if I were to subscribe to another denomination, other than Anglicanism, it would either be Free Presbyterianism or an Evangelical denomination of some sort. The problem with the former is that they're Calvinistic to an extent, and the problem with the latter is that they are often pro-israel. Another issue is that more fringe Churches have greater mobility as they aren't bound down by a large impotent bureaucratic organisation, on the other hand though I admire Anglicanism and Orthodoxy for their hegemony. The latter definitely more than the former, but since the Orthodox Church is foreign to my ancestral lands they unfortunately aren't an option. Also, the Catholic Church isn't an option, as I do not wish to worship the anti-Christ. Though I must admit that I admire lots of the Catholic traditions and history. I just reject the papacy given its conduct throughout the course of history.

So yes. Thanks for bothering to read this. Any clues or input?

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Why Protestantism is Correct

The fundamentals of Christianity must be drawn down to something that we can hold in our hands, knowing it's stood the test of time. As the Psalmist wrote, God would refine his word and it would be preserved from generation to generation. This is an indication that his Word would be maintained through history correctly. We can see that it has when we find old manuscripts that match modern transcripts with only insignificant differences that don't change the meaning of what is written.

But then the argument is, what is the correct make up of the Bible? Was Martin Luther correct to remove some? That's answered by how the Jewish leaders of the day looked at the Bible. Jesus answered this when he spoke to the Pharisee in Luke 11 and said, "50 Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all." This noted the original composition of the Bible, without the books that were added in, from Genesis to Zechariah and then Malachi. The people at the time didn't dispute this. This was understood to be the correct composition.

Additionally, we then look at history. Those who tried to get the Bible into more hands in other languages, whether Tyndale, Luther, and many others, advanced the Bible in extreme opposition to the established religious order which sought to hunt them down and kill them for blasphemy, even knowing a murderer would not enter heaven.

We then see in Deuteronomy 28 that God told the Israelis that if they follow Him and do as he commands, he would bless them abundantly and show others the perfect way to him. Four nations that have been abundantly blessed are Germany, Switzerland, Great Britain and America. Each one of those places played a role in advancing Protestantism. Germany was the first to adopt Protestantism and housed those who were persecuted for advancing it; Geneva, Switzerland was the place John Calvin and others went to turn the worst slums in Europe into a better place by following Christian principles; Great Britain followed Protestantism and America did too. The other branches don't have the blessings these do. Why did God bless one over the other two? Because one sought Him out more correctly than others.

So, why Protestantism? The Bible says, come let us reason, and to that we have looking at history and more.

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Why won't God give me a woman?

It's not fair! Everyone else around me has their significant other. I guess I'm just too ugly and socially awkward. All I want is to have a lovely woman whom I can love and hold in my arms and marry one day. It's so easy for everyone else! Everyone else does just fine! Why did God have to make me so ugly? Why can't I just have a girl?

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Help for converting

I'm considering converting, but stuff such as:

>Why Protestantism is correct

>Why is this board so anti-protestant

>Protestantism is the biggest misinterpretation of Christianity ever

is making that rather difficult.

I just want to follow Christ, I do not care about Rome, nor Luther, nor anyone else besides Christ. I just want to follow the Bible according to my own interpretation.

Is there a Church that simply follows the Bible without caring about denomination?

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Heaven and Hell Testimonies

What do you guys think of the people who claim to have had visitations and experiences where they saw Jesus, Heaven and Hell? People who have had near-death experiences, sometimes having been clinically declared dead, come back to life and then claimed to have seen Heaven and Hell and Jesus and experienced miracles?

There are many thousands of people who claim to have had experiences like these in the English-speaking world alone. Many tens of thousands in Latin America, Africa and Asia. They can't all be hoaxes.

Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and turned away from sin?

http://www.divinerevelations.info/default.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7FkyF4ux70

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA7mtcJ748U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx-AKpM49KM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkPEz8T3YkY&list=PLe4QDWwoJR4xNzdGV4yUfhQcrnuhR5-vC

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The Way is narrower than you think

Read the whole sermon here: http://olrl.org/snt_docs/fewness.shtml

How did the vision at Fatima put it? Something like Souls falling into hell like Snowflakes?

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Subject

Roman Catholic ideals on sexuality are rooted in Stoicism rather than in scripture.

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Doom external plot leaks

>Doom 2016 was a direct sequel to Doom 64

>Doom guy almost lost his humanity while staying in hell to fight demons

>Demons and Makyrs hate humanity because the Father Aka god in the doom universe abandon them for humanity

>Makyrs aren't angels, they are parasites who fools everyone posing as them since hell made it so.

>Demons and Makyrs are salty with humanity because they kicked their asses in the past, and the Father loves mankind

>it’s why doomguy received the seraphim's blessing and became the Doom Slayer

>People formed a religion over the doom slayer seeing him as a saint or even second coming of christ

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What would i have to give up in order to become a true Christian? For example my favorite band is Judas Priest, would i need to stop listening to them to go to heaven?

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Can I just go be a monk for like a year without having to lie and say I'm discerning? I just wanna take a break from the world

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I feel stupid

I am about to be baptized in a few weeks, and I can hardly understand the faith. I see people here quoting all sorts of stuff, yet I can barely read. I feel so stupid. I try doing meditations, but the subjects involved are WAY< WAY over my limited intellect. I feel hopeless. I want to get to heaven, but I don't think I am smart enough for it. I try reading the bible, but I forget what i read. My memory is so poor, I don't know how to get out of it. LORD PLEASE HEAL MY FRACTURED MIND. PLEASE!!!! PLEASE!!!!! : feel so… useless. I try reading the Catechism, but i can hardly remember ANY OF IT!!!!

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Protestantism is the biggest misinterpretation of Christianity ever

When Paul talks about works he's talking about the Jewish law. Soteriology (at least the Protestant notion that there is somehow a conflict between good works and faith) isn't even the issue that Paul was dealing with. Protestants read the issue into the text. It wouldn't even make sense in the historical context of Paul's time. The Judaizers thought the gentiles needed to convert to Judaism in order to become inheritors of the new covenant, but Paul said it was through faith in Christ, not conversion to Judaism, that justifies the gentile in the new covenant. Part of the hope of the coming of the Messiah was that the gentiles would become believers in the God of Israel, just read Isaiah. Seriously the entire doctrine of sola fide rests on the interpretation of an overly scrupulous monk in the 16th century who read Paul in such a way as to alleviate his own spiritual suffering which unfortunately only proliferated it.

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Would you trust this?

So for some reason I follow this priest, some people I know were following him, and only looked very briefly on what he talked, and thought to myself, well good enough.

He seems to be one of the more radical traditional and influential priests around, when I saw this publication, and it really got worried.

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Is the coronavirus divine retribution?

Is the coronavirus divine judgment on humanity? Is it because of all the homosexuality and abortion in the west?

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Done

I'm losing my faith. Hard. I cannot worship a God that is so arbitrary.

And it is, when you get down to it, so incredibly arbitrary. From our existence, to the rules we are supposed to live by (whether they are good for us or not), to free will (it does ultimately fall on God, our existence, whether you are a Calvinist, or a Catholic, it doesn't matter), to what shapes our will. When you chase any of these subjects down, it eventually ends up as "yeah well we can't really know but God says so", which offends every sense of justice I was raised to have. ALL denominations are flagrantly guilty of this and frankly, I don't see any way out.

Anyway, not really expecting any answers to come from this. I'm just….I'm out guys. I'm done. I'm not happy about it, but I feel like I've reached the end of the line.

I hope you guys have good lives.

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On the U.S. Military Chaplain Corps

I am growing weary of the U.S.'s war efforts and giant military industrial complex. Alas, I think I have formed a way to deal a blow to it.

Do you know about the Chaplain Corps? There are good people in here, yes, but there's also a problem. There are a lot of religious members in the military and whenever they start feeling doubtful that maybe, maybe killing people for oil and profit is wrong, they'll talk to a Chaplain which will obviously espouse a pro-United States viewpoint. A pro-War viewpoint, even if they'll disguise it by saying that its a war that maybe will lead to peace.

So I was thinking that maybe we could do lasting damage to the U.S. Chaplain corps by using clerical help. Now this is a lofty goal but, if for example, the Pope banned Catholics from entering the Chaplain's job, then that would be a huge blow to recruiting Catholic members into literally any part of the army.

The question is, how?

And how could anyone pull this off?

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Churches closing due to the Coronavirus pandemic.

What's your opinion on the voluntary (and in some areas involuntary) suspension of church services?

It seems most clergy are fine with this, and a lot are moving to online sermons to compensate, but something doesn't sit right with me about this whole situation.

Are there any passages in scripture referring to something similar (believers prevented from meeting, but their right to individual worship not directly infringed upon)?

The general consensus is that Christians should follow the laws of their country unless they interfere with God's law/ability to worship God. Should this pandemic be considered a situation in which Christians should defy the law, and meet together anyway?

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Apologetics on Secularism

A channel I just found recently via David's woods apologetics empire video that focuses on challenging Atheist arguments. This video covers the potential circular claim of nature uniformity. Thoughts? And do you know of any other channels like this?

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Rant about people not reading Bible

Do you all get angry with stupid people abusing your holy book?

I noticed it a lot with the gay qoute.

"It's in the Bible not to be gay."

But they fall apart when you ask for the passage, context, translation, or even what version of the Bible they read.

Recently with corona a lot of dentheads on campus have been claiming it's in the Bible that a plague will come. Yeah, right after the seven headed beast and a plague of flying horses with the faces of humans. But then they clap back with "well it's open to interpretation."

It's amazing how many Christians haven't read the Bible but say they live by it.

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help

I pray, I hold a cross and say the words of accepting the lord into my heart. Yet it does not feel genuine, and I know God can notice this.

I know evil is best at deceiving, but it is deception that I be concerned about Jesus literally being a jewish rabbi?

When you look into judaism, you see it has multiple tiers of control and secrecy. Near the top is the talmud and kaballah, which essentially boils down to how to control the masses.

When I think about that, and Jesus, it makes me worry about Jesus being a disciple of the secret rabbit sect, just playing a controlled opposition role.

When you look at society today, you see these same people setting up their own controlled opposition in every single sector of life.

But Jesus teaches good, and love, and whipped money changers etc. I genuinely want to believe Jesus is real, but something always irks me about it all, i am always afraid its just another figurehead teaching 99% good, and 1% poison.

Its just too much to consider, and I pray for guidance, but I still feel lost..

(I have read the bible and all of its versions)

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Child molestation

Why is child molestation so prevalent in the catholic church?

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QM proves God

He's right. I was an atheist for a long time when I began studying physics. But now I've finally been studying Quantum Mechanics and and yep, it's pretty clear to me there is a God now. I did start going back to church about a year ago, a colleague of mine actually helped me come back to the faith but I have still have some doubts, now I have pretty much 0. I find that Quantum Mechanics lines up pretty well with Christian philosophy and Aristotelian philosophy.

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Jew

Do you know why Christians are Jewish slaves???

Because you worship a Jewish guy

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What does /christian/ think of americans?

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Can people who do super serious sins like rape, murder, pedophilia along them lines be saved? Steven Anderson says that anyone that does this is reprobate…

It's honestly freaking me out how much I think I'm low key Reprobate especially since I want to be a girl.

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Is The Biblical Pale Horse Riding?

Is the coronavirus a biblical punishment?

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What is considered a sin when it comes to sex?

Before you answer,yes I know sex before marriage is a sin,but what counts as sinning when your having sex? Like does oral sex(of any kind,for the man or woman) count? I've also seen it been debated on whether or not it's a sin to bust a nut on your wife instead of in your wife. What are your views on sinning during sex?

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sedevacantism

Why do people hate mhfm so much? It seems like "trad" catholics never even try to refute them, but instead resort to ad hominem attacks.

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Changes to Mass due to CoronaVirus

I live in an area in the US were people are dying of the Virus.

The Novus Ordo Archbishop has forbidden receiving the Holy Eucharist on the tongue, which is part of the the Trad Catholic mass . We are given a prayer to say instead.

No word if he banned hand holding like the N.O. do.

We're also told we should stay home and not attend mass if we feel sick or think we may be sick, that it won't be a sin.

What's happening in your Church?

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Historical Evidence for Christianity

Does anybody have a refutation of this video? Any solid evidence of Apostles being martyred besides what Mike Winger mentioned in his video (Peter, James the brother of Jesus, and Paul) and/or that these Apostles could have recanted, but didn't? What about for the resurrection? I am beginning to feel skeptical about Habermas' "minimal facts" argument and its variations.

I'm struggling with this right now. I still believe that an unmoved mover exists, but I have been leaning on historical arguments like these to justify my faith in Christianity specifically. Sorry that I'm asking to be spoon-fed, I'm feeling crestfallen right now and would appreciate a hand up.

Also historical evidence general, please post whatever you've got, and pray for me anons.

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Scandinavian culture is not worth preserving

I have yet to come across a Nordcuck who is not a rabid anti-Christian. Their relationship to the faith is not one of mere indifference, as is the case among normies, but infectious, genocidal hatred. The Nordic right has instead turned to homoerotic paganism as a substitute for organic spiritual practice, while retaining their anti-Christian and libertine leanings fully.

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"Trad" Catholics

I love and respect my brothers who are drawn to traditional Catholicism. I love that TLM is helping people have a visceral engagement and how it's conservatism is inspiring people to live socially moral lives. But since the feast of St. Peter's chair a few weeks ago, I've been thinking a lot about how "Catholic" this movement really is. And I'm sorry to say, that after studying Vatican II and the Catechism of the Catholic church, this movement ultimately seems like straight up Protestantism.

Let's break the staples of "Trad-Cats" and see how Catholic these things really are.

>Rejection of Vatican II (and or Vatican I)

- Rejecting a church council opens the door for infinite heresy. If you reject Vatican II, why not reject the council of Nincea II like John Calvin did? If you believe the Holy Spirit is with the church since Acts, you have to believe he was in all of the church councils from Jerusalem on. Saying "this council was invalid" blah blah blah is basically saying "the Holy Spirit is not infallible, or was not with the church." which makes you equally valid to the Lutherans and Anglicans, and every other group that rejected Trent.

- Ultimately, people reject this council because they love their political views more than Christ, the church magistrate, and the Catholic faith. "It was better before Trent" is just code for saying "it was better when the church looked more like my current political views and pandered more to my nation" What do you love more, Christ, the church, or your country and your idealistic cultural views?

>Public Whining About the Pope

- Do you really think ancient Catholics went broadcasting anti-Papist views in public like you do, just because the pope says things that are inconvenient to them? Do you think they'd be allowed communion if they did so? Do you think they'd be allowed to even live in many eras? The Catechism specifically condemns public slander of the pope and church magistrate. What makes you think you're above the Catechism and Catholic teaching? What makes you think your opinion matters so much?

- Do you realize why the pope doesn't act in your country/race/politics's best interest? It's because your race, nation, and culture got too smart for Christianity. So why shouldn't he flood America with good Mexican Catholic families and Europe with good African Catholics now that the West is chopping off it's own d—s?

>Communion on tongue

- Ok, there is sufficient eveidence that none of the church fathers did this. And nobody for hundreds of years did this. So the church fathers somehow botched communion for hundreds of years?

>Anti Ecumenism

- The bible is clear that the church must be one body. If a CHURCH COUNCIL decided "we don't need to stick our heads up are ass, we can to strive to bring or separated brothers back according to apostolic teaching" why are you clinging to the words of one or two popes that were uttered hundreds of years ago? Why are you clinging to this Baptist-like super-elitism instead of working to spread the beauty of Catholic faith to your separated Christian brothers?

tl;dr, "Trad Catholicism" = "I love my elitist political and racial views more than the Catholic faith." Hey if you want to reject the papacy, church councils, magistrate, tradition, God bless ya. But know that you're just another protestant movement.

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Help arguing against a faggot/dyke promoter

So arsenokoitai means the active homosexual (top) and malakia means the passive homosexual (bottom), right? I have some liberal retard "Christian" attempting to argue they means male prostitutes, not homosexuals.

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COVID-19 Thread

What do you guys think? Churches are being effected. At my church we usually do communion every two weeks but we skipped it this week which I am a little disappointed over because I know God would never allow plague to corrupt true worship of him. Still, it being on the news and all and WHO declaring it a pandemic it is getting scary. Not many have died but the mortality rate is higher than the flu. Do you think perhaps this is a judgment?

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Evangelism

Why don't catholic laypeople share the gospel?

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Why hate America and EU?

Why is /christian/ so anti-American and European Union?

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Question for KJV Only Fundekmentalists

Why don’t KJV-only Fundementalist Baptists read the 7 Inter-Testament (Tobit, Judith, etc) books or the Esther/Daniel additions? They were included in the original King James and Martin Luther bible.

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Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above

What did God mean by this?

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Hi from a leftist :p

hai gaiz, wandered in here from lefty /pol, heard about you. So, why are you on 8kun of all places? Kinda out of place arent'cha? Also are Christians leftist at all? I'm voting for Bernie this year. \^o^/

No bully ;_;

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Pope Francis molesting Coronachan

What are your opinions on pope Francis having caught the Corona virus?

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I was listening to bill burr

and the subject of church happened to come up and he said "being judged for what you do and don't believe is just silly." And I thought "well when you put it that way…" so I perused the bible and it occurred to me that no where does it say "only if you have faith in Christ will you be saved." There's a lot of "if you have faith in Christ you will be saved," and there's "No one comes to the Father except through me," John 14:6, but there is not anywhere implied "only belief in Jesus will save you." While it's pretty clear no one can earn their way to heaven, getting in to heaven despite not believing Jesus is never implied to be impossible, e.g. Jesus, who's still very much alive, could decide someone gets in despite never having believed in Him. Prove me wrong.

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Missionary work

Where are missionaries most needed? Where is the place that is too difficult, too dangerous and unsafe for most christians? Where is the place in the world where the word of god hasn't reached? Obviously I can't get inside North Korea, but besides North Korea, where can good be done?

I ask because I'm starting to wonder in what way I can glorify god most and serve his purpose on this earth. I'm autistic and an emotional blank, I can't love or feel outside of the guidance of concepts, normal life for me is unavailable due to my condition. My autism is so severe that the possibility of having a family and being fruitful and multiplying is not one I can realistically expect. And outside of being fruitful and multiplying, bringing salvation to others should be the priority.

I was thinking rural China, India or an Islamic country. But maybe there's somewhere I've overlooked. What do you guys think?

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How do we restore the Catholic Church?

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Catholic Nationalism

Was Antonio Salazar able to create the perfect conservative society based on Catholic faith without the heretical influences of Mussolini's fascism and Hitler's National Socialism? What are some other states that had similar ideology to the Estado Novo regime in Portugal?

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LARP

Why is this such a common occurence these days? Do they actually go to mass?

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Christian Company Town

Has anyone else had this idea? A company town is a town that has all its buildings and land controlled by a company. The residents of the town then operate their own businesses as subsidiaries of the company. The company can "tax" the subsidiaries by drawing off a portion of their profits. This enables a community to be created with complete control over who can live there and what kind of businesses can be run.

In short you could create a Christian company whose charter states that the company will create and maintain a community with the aim of maintaining traditional Christian values. Members of the community who are trusted and respected are given shares in the company and the board of directors is elected from among them to act as the towns council.

Is this feasible? It would allow Christians to create communities that are completely free from government influence since the land and property is privately owned there is no obligation to allow non-Christians or people who live immoral lifestyles into the community. In all other ways it can function as a traditional Christian village, with the long term goal of siphoning off as much money and wealth from the host nation as possible to maintain a high quality of life for the inhabitants.

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Political Theory

Which form of government is most biblical and why?

Poll:

http://www.strawpoll.me/19459353

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Predestination

A few weeks ago, my priest (Catholic), gave a homily that I have been having trouble coping with. If anyone here could help me come to terms with this I would appreciate it.

The homily centered around this concept of predestination. As far as I had been aware up until this point, only Calvinists believed in predestination, but my priest gave this full length homily about how God already knows about who among us will be going to heaven or hell, as he is all knowing, therefore to a degree predestination exists.

This, coupled with some frustration I have had with my own recurring sins, has left me in somewhat perpetual anger and borderline hatred towards our existence. The reason for this is as follows. We are constantly told as Christians that God LOVES us and he sent Jesus to OPEN THE GATES OF HEAVEN. Well, if predestination is true, that means God is creating people who he knows will not go to heaven. He is creating people just to watch them writhe around in pain for 70 years and then die. We are supposed to be thankful to God for the gift of his son. I ask you this, if I am among those who God already knows is going to hell, THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS MEANS LITERALLY NOTHING TO ME. And yes, if predestination is true, I know where I am heading.

I have tried to just ignore this concept but it is festering. I feel never ending rage about this. It is unfair. Why would a supposedly loving God even make us like this? If he knows everything he would know how to fix our lives so we DONT go to hell. He CAN do it. So if he were loving he WOULD do it. This concept of my life being completely futile is absolutely repulsive for me.

Help.

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Hi. I have never posted here before and just wanted to ask something really quick. I'm 20 years old and I want to become a nun, but I worry because most of modern nuns seem very liberal. There's even an Italian nun that became like a popstar singer and people think that this is cool, but I find it very sickening. So I want to be a nun in the strictest and more traditional nun order or monastery in the united states, do you guys know some? I can travel, so distance is not a problem. Also, do I need something else to be a nun, or do I just go there? Any help is appreciated.

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"Orthodox Nationalist"

Hi brothers. I want your take on this podcast by Matthew Raphael Johnson. As a catholic, I listened for some time even though I considered the approach to be a bit larpy at some times.

Last few weeks I could not have wrapped my mind around him saying Notre Dame cathedral is just "middle class bourgeois attraction" and likened it to "cremation of the corpse" because nobody "knows the symbolism" etc.

Like..does the guy not realize that the building itself has a great value in its beauty and it can be a nucleus of resurrection of French people? The last thing I would expect from the guy is to liken it to "cremation of a corpse".

Truly disgusting. I no longer listen regularly but I was a bit shocked by such an introduction. He said he would expand upon it on "daily nationalist" but I do not think he ever did and I no longer listen to that anyway.

If you want to listen for yourself here

https://archive.radioaryan.com/TON/TON%20041719.mp3

It is on the beginning of the episode, the very first few minutes.

What is your take on this guy?

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Former freemason

Would a former freemason be welcome in the catholic church if he fully repented to the priest in confession? How would others treat him?

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End of the World 2020

Guys guys the coronavirus is getting winnie the pooh scary now. Are we truly in the end times? Is everyone going to die? Is Jesus coming back soon!? Locusts are also in the middle east! And apparently there is a Messiah claimant in Israel. IS THE ANTICHRIST COMING!? This is giving me anxiety. I'm gonna be honest I don't know if I'm gonna be saved! :( Are we in the end times?

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How does the church feel about former Muslim Christians who still perform the five Muslim daily prayers? Is that permissible?

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I'm looking for serious answers in how to handle this document from the Vatican. It's been making me question the validity of the catholic faith. In one paragraph it says

>Since God has never revoked his covenant with his people Israel, there cannot be different paths or approaches to God’s salvation. The theory that there may be two different paths to salvation, the Jewish path without Christ and the path with the Christ, whom Christians believe is Jesus of Nazareth, would in fact endanger the foundations of Christian faith…the Church and Judaism cannot be represented as "two parallel ways to salvation", but that the Church must "witness to Christ as the Redeemer for all" (No.I, 7). The Christian faith confesses that.. there is no "other name under heaven given to the human race by which we are to be saved

Yet in the next it says

From the Christian confession that there can be only one path to salvation, however, it does not in any way follow that the Jews are excluded from God’s salvation because they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah of Israel and the Son of God.

How can jews be saved if not through Christ by believing in Him?

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The Apocrypha

Why is it that many of the Protestant denominatons removed these books and consider them non-canonical to the faith?

I'm a Methodist myself, and as far as I'm aware, reading it is encouraged, but it's not to be taken as canon. Though, I haven't read it myself yet. I plan on doing so here soon.

What're your thoughts on it?

Any insights? Interesting information or stories found in these books?

Any historical reasoning as to why they were deemed non-canonical by many?

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Foundations Restored: Catholic Perspectives on Creation/Evolution

Has anyone heard about this? I've known about Hugh Owen and the Kolbe Center for awhile now, but I just found out about this 17 part documentary they made about the history of evolutionary theory. The first two episodes are free (just enter a fake e-mail and you can watch them) and it goes into some interesting history. I didn't know about the occult influences on Descartes and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.

https://foundationsrestored.com/free-preview/

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Prince Charles = Ortho?

"Witnesses say that when the prince arrived in Athos days after the death of Princess Diana almost seven years ago, it was Ephraim who induced him to join the faith. Closeted in a chamber alone with the abbot, Charles is believed to have made a "spiritual commitment" to Christian Orthodoxy"

>Prince Charles, the heir to the British throne and future head of the Anglican Church, is Ortho

I… what…?

uh, thoughts?

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Who are some 'living saints' in Catholicism today?

I hear all the time from East Orthodox circles talking about their modern day saints, and how they swoon over people who were extraordinary people like Elder Ephraim, Elder Sophrony, St Paisios, ect. In fact, I heard from a priest that "the fact that Orthodoxy is producing great spiritual saints today while the Roman Catholics don't is proof that Orthodoxy is the full faith".

Do Roman Catholics do this? Are there any Roman Catholics alive today that are saintly? Or are there any Catholic 'saints' that recently reposed in the last few decades?

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Our guy Viganò does it again

https://www.corrispondenzaromana.it/un-atto-di-accusa-a-papa-francesco-e-di-amore-alla-chiesa-di-s-e-mons-carlo-maria-vigano/

Translated by yours truly, TL notes in spoilers

Thus saith the Lord God that created the heavens, and stretched them out: that established the earth, and the things that spring out of it: that giveth breath to the people upon it, and spirit to them that tread thereon.

I the Lord, this is my name: I will not give my glory to another, nor my praise to graven things.

The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, as a man of war shall he stir up zeal: he shall shout and cry: he shall prevail against his enemies.

I have always held my peace, I have kept silence, I have been patient, I will speak now as a woman in labour: I will destroy, and swallow up at once.

I will lay waste the mountains and hills, and will make all their grass to wither: and I will turn rivers into islands, and will dry up the standing pools.

They are turned back: let them be greatly confounded, that trust in a graven thing, that say to a molten thing: You are our god.

Who hath given Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to robbers? hath not the Lord himself, against whom we have sinned? And they would not walk in his ways, and they have not hearkened to his law.

And he hath poured out upon him the indignation of his fury, and a strong battle, and hath burnt him round about, and he knew not: and set him on fire, and he understood not.

(Isaiah 42:5-17 (sic) [DRV chosen by me])

IMMACULATE VIRGIN MOTHER MARY – ACIES ORDINATA, ORA PRO NOBIS

"Is there anything in the heart of the Virgin Mary other than the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ? We too want to have one name alone in our hearts: that of Jesus, like the Most Holy Virgin."

The tragic parable of this Papacy carries on with a striking chain of plot twists. Nary a day needs to pass: from the highest seat the Supreme Pontiff carries on with the dismantling of the Seat of Peter, using and abusing of his supreme authority, not to confess but to deny; not to confirm but to lead astray; not to unite but to divide; not to build but to demolish.

Material heresies, formal heresies, idolatry, all sorts of inattentiveness: the Supreme Pontiff Bergoglio never stops perniciously humiliating the highest authority of the Church, "demystifying" the Papacy – as the illustrious comrade Karl Rahner would say. His action aims to violate the Holy Deposit [of Faith] and to scar the Catholic Face of the Bride of Christ, with word and with deed, with dissimulations and lies, with his crowd-pleasing actions, of flaunted spontaneity, but meticulously conceived and planned, through which he exalts himself, in a never-ending narcissistic self-celebration, while the figure of the Roman Pontiff is humiliated, of the Sweet Christ on Earth obscured.

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What Are Your Favorite Prayers?

I am interested in finding other beautiful prayers that speak to me on a deep, personal level. My favorite prayers are:

Suscipe of St. Ignatius of Loyola

>Receive, O Lord, all my liberty.

>Take my memory, understanding, and entire will.

>Whatever I have or possess you have given me;

>I restore it all to you, and surrender it wholly to be governed by your will.

>Give me love for you alone along with your grace,

>and I am rich enough, and ask for nothing more.

<Amen

Prayer of Saint Francis

>Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.

>Where there is hatred, let me bring love.

>Where there is offense, let me bring pardon.

>Where there is discord, let me bring union.

>Where there is error, let me bring truth.

>Where there is doubt, let me bring faith.

>Where there is despair, let me bring hope.

>Where there is darkness, let me bring your light.

>Where there is sadness, let me bring joy.

>O Master, let me not seek as much

>to be consoled as to console,

>to be understood as to understand,

>to be loved as to love,

>for it is in giving that one receives,

>it is in self-forgetting that one finds,

>it is in pardoning that one is pardoned,

>it is in dying that one is raised to eternal life.

<Amen

I also say these short prayers before Communion:

>Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner.

<Amen

>Lord, I believe. Help my unbelief.

<Amen

>Lord, if you will it, you can make me clean.

<Amen

>Lord, save me.

<Amen

>Eternal Father, I offer you the body, blood, soul, and divinity of your dearly beloved Son, my Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for my sins and for the sins of the whole world.

<Amen

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Where in the Bible does it say we should venerate and worship Mary?

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Are most atheists just oversocialized Christians?

I've been thinking about the concept of oversocialization from Uncle Ted's Industrial Society and It's Future, and this occurred to me.

In case you haven't read it, basically, socialization is when people learn the norms, morals, and values of society, and then act on the. Oversociallization is when someone learns these norms, morals, and values of society and takes them too far, to the point that they reject them on the whole because the think they do not hold up to their own standards. An example would be a liberal who hates America and say that it was founded on racism, even though in actuality America was founded on the ideal of the inherent equality of all men. Even though that ideal was not completely achieved in the beginning, and even if that ideal is factually incorrect and unachievable, that founding ideal was still there. An oversocialized person is incapable of understanding that even if an value of a society is not perfectly met, it is still a value of that society. If that didn't make sense, I suggest you go read Industrial Society and It's Future, it's explained much better in there.

Anyway, I've noticed that atheists seem to have this same sort of oversocialized attitude towards Christianity. Whenever you hear them complain about Christianity, it always boils down to the same two reasons:

>1. God is mean, and doesn't follow his own rules.

or

>2. Christians are mean, and don't follow their own rules.

Notice the similarity to oversocialization? They will complain that God says killing people is wrong, but then kills people. Or that Christians say that you should love everybody, but then are sometimes hateful. And so on. Notice that nowhere do they disagree that killing is wrong, or that love is good. Their main complaint is that they think that God and Christians don't live up to their own standard. They are oversocialized.

Of course, this isn't an entirely perfect theory. They will also claim that Christians are bad because Christianity opposes homosexuality. But even then, one of their biggest reasons for supporting homosexuality is that they think it is wrong to judge other people. Not judging people (without judging yourself) is a Christian value. Again this seems to be related to oversocialization, because they take the not judging way to far.

So what do you all think of this.

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Ash Wednesday 2020

>For you are dust and to dust you will return

What are you giving up this year?

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Is it a sin to study/do homework on Sundays?

So, I'm a college student, and I was wondering if it was a sin to study/do homework on Sundays. Any insights into this? Thanks!

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Christian Movies

What's your favourite christian film?

What are your thoughts on these?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican%27s_list_of_films

I've seen a lot of that list and its fairly arbitrary I'd say but I'm not well versed in christian movies, and it seems like not many are. Are films overlooked as a way to introduce or reconcile people with god?

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Exegesis of Romans 9, End of 8

An exegetical response to https://8kun.top/christianity/res/10110.html

New thread here because that board is basically closed now and my focus is more on Romans itself. Plus this is going to be several posts long. I'm sure SBC anon will find this thread interesting, since there's a very good chance I'm directly addressing your position or at least something similar to it. I'll be using the NASB for this, if you'd like to follow along. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+8&version=NASB

I'm not going to leave chapter 9 except to demonstrate how chapters 8 and 9 connect.

I invite any "Traditionalist" to walk through the passage in the way that I'm about to, without leaving chapters 8 and 9.

Chapter 8

Starting in verse 26.

>In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words;

"Us" in this context refers to Paul's audience, the believers in Rome that he's writing to, along with himself. Keep that in mind going forward.

>and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

The one searching the hearts is the Father. "He" who intercedes for the saints is the Spirit.

>And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.

Those who are "called" are those who love God. "His purpose" is the purpose that will later be brought up in 9:11. "God’s purpose according to His choice." In the Greek it is ἐκλογὴν πρόθεσις, literally God's "election purpose."

Now we begin what is known as the Golden Chain of Redemption.

>For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;

>and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.

Grammatically, the identities of "those whom He foreknew" are the same as those that He ends up glorifying at the end of this process. God is the one performing all of these actions. The only people justified or called are the people whom God foreknew. The subject of the verbs foreknew, predestined, called, justified, and glorified, is still God from verse 28.

>What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us?

We, us, and us all refer to Paul's audience: the believers in Rome that he's writing to.

>He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things?

Us still refers to Paul's audience: the believers in Rome that he's writing to. The object of the pronouns has not changed. Who was Jesus delivered over for? Us. To whom does the Father give all things? Us.

>Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies;

The mentioning of God's elect should make a whole lot of sense right now considering who us refers to in the previous verses. This also defines what Paul is talking about when he's bringing up election in the next chapter. Also, who does God justify? His elect. Who does God justify? Those whom He foreknew. Therefore who did God foreknow? The elect.

>who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us.

Whom does Jesus intercede for in this verse? "Us." Who is us? Paul and his audience. The object of us has not changed.

>Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Can anyone or any trouble separate Paul and the believers in Rome from the love of Jesus? No.

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Thoughts on the Qur'an?

What does /christian/ think about the Qur'an?

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i wanna get more religious

so is the new king james version

a good bible to read ?

or is there a better version to read?

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Can Jesus cure my social anxiety?

Yes, I do pray for His help. But whenever I have to interact with other people, in phone or in person, I can't help but feel anxious with sweaty palms, racing heart beat, foggy mind etc.

Are there any relevant verses in the bible or other sources that could help? I'm just sick and tired of it and it unironically ruined my whole life.

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Love between a man and woman

Is love between a man and a woman real or simply a short affair of chemical hormones followed by desperately trying to "stay together"?

Read up on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence

The Bible says that God designed a man and woman to become one flesh but then why isn't this desire to remain as one flesh stronger than the desire to cheat or have affairs after the "Limerence" period? Why even give us a short period like that which confuses reality with short term happy chemicals?

Who here is in a relationship and what are your details/experience? Aren't you worried that after the limerence phase of love and high emotions that exclusivity will be a torturous struggle between you and your partner? What stops you from being paranoid of a woman's unfaithfulness when she gets "bored"?

Is "love" even a real thing? Are feelings of boredom inevitable? Do Christians simply blot that feeling out with Bible verses and God?

Women tend to want exclusive long term partners more than men but women also tend to get bored when they lose the mystery of their partner. Why are we designed like this? It feels hopeless and superficial.

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Despair of fellow man

I have been growing in my faith ever since I started this Journey early last year, and it has been WONDERFUL. I have a purpose in life. But I have been in despair. NOT with god, but with my fellow man. I am the only one in my little part of the world who is as devout as I am. My mom is Catholic, but has not been there in a while. My dad is Lutheran. I have been doing what I can to grow in faith, but I have no one to relate it to. I feel like Tobias and Sara: Mankind does not seem to embrace His message and I wish God to take me away. I have no friends in this regard. I love God with all my being, yet my family does not take Him seriously. I am a part of the church, but I can't relate. to anyone. Often I am upset at the closing hymns, because people seem so…eager…to leave Him..they treat it like a club. I used to struggle comprehending why so few were few people were saved. How could that be? I wondered..but I now know…people CHOOSE to not be saved. We REALLY do not deserve Him, and I am sorry for hurting Him all those years. Why did my parents not teach me to love God? Why? Why did I hate Him all those years? Why are we so wicked? I wish God could take me right now. I don't know how to feel about those in my life anymore. I could have been a literal NIGHTMARE…yet…He saved me…He loves me, when i did not deserve to be. No one has cared as that much about me…NO ONE. and i wish to share His love…but no one is interested. I am tired of the wicked hearts of mankind. I wish for God to wash all the sins of men away.

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Meme thread

New meme thread because the old one is autosaging, starting with a request: I need the exploitable 8ch logo, have this crop in return

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"I will be back soon"

Jesus / God said he will be back "soon"

now it's pass more than 2000 years and he still not come back. Can you guys explain this to me ?

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Will we see animals friends in heaven?

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Kinism

Kinism is the idea that from a Christian perspective race matters. "Kin" as in your own kind, opposition to multiculturalism in favor of nationalism.

This article is the definitive case for kinism. Embed related is the same article read aloud.

https://faithandheritage.com/2011/01/a-biblical-defense-of-ethno-nationalism/

Are you familiar with it? What do you think?

Are you a kinist?

If not, what Biblical argument do you have against it?

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What are some arguments in favour of same-sex couples?

Are romantic non-sexual relationships viable for same-sex attracted people? The Bible takes an austere stance when non-procreative sex is involved, but how are christians to act in a close relationship where there's an absence of sexual intercourse? To be more specific, is making out with a member of the same sex considered to be a lustful act despite abstaining from having sexual intercourse?

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Regarding Nietzsche

>claimed that God is dead in spite of the extremely peculiar interpretation this has in a Christian society

>wrote strange interpretations of the Bible, specifically the sort no one would actually believe in

Am I the only one who gets the impression that something extremely fishy was going on with this lad?

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is it possible to be a Christian and a Capitalist

is it possible to be a Christian and a capitalist?

how in good conscience can a Christian support an economic (and social) system that is based on the exploitation of the poor? furthermore, everywhere that capitalism exists there is rise in social values antithetical to the teachings of Christ such as feminism “gay rights” and the sort of toxic individualism of libertarian types that leads to atheism.

If you call yourself a social conservative and a christian to support capitalism is to support your own destruction at the hands of the merchant class (which is almost entirely liberal and hostile to God).

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Only God

God or nothing. If this is true, then why should I bother with anything else? Recently these three words have been haunting me up to the point that I consider my last two semesters to be the most severe period of procrastination of my life. I am at the very end of my studies but I feel nothing; no excitement, no desire to be done with it; nothing. Because why should I study? My studies will not make me closer to God in any way. Yet I feel the pressure to finish my studies: I do not want to see the disappointment on my parents face. That is the only thing that kept me going.

And surprisingly I am not failing. Even though I worked only on days before exams, I passed with average grades. Finishing the studies is perhaps also what is scary to me. I will be expected to enter the job market, search for a slave job I do not want. I fear that once I enter that world, all will be lost for me. Why is it that consecrating your life to the engineering of some temporal, useless gadgets is seen as something great, but consecrating your life to God is wasting your life.

How on earth am I supposed to exit this damned loop? I do not want to study or work because I fear that I am wasting my time by not consecrating it to God, yet at the same time the societal pressure keeps me on the edge of my studies. Which during the past 9 month resulted in me generally not doing anything good at all. As I said I crammed during all-nighters before the exams, but other than that I just… lived. I went biking. I read some books. I gardened. So I do not think that I am depressed, but I simply do not know what to do with myself. The only thing that I wish is to do something to help the poor; to join a monastic order. But I am to scared of what that implies.

> pic related: me if I was a 19th century woman

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Catholic priest says "pedophilia doesn't kill anyone," but bans 44 lawmakers from receiving communio

https://archive.ph/a7lz8

>A priest in Rhode Island, Reverend Richard Bucci, made national headlines last week by banning lawmakers who supported the state's abortion rights bill from receiving communion at his parish.

>The 72-year-old priest recently passed out fliers to parishioners listing the names of all 44 members of the legislature who voted for the Reproductive Privacy Act , which was signed into law last spring.

>This statement didn't sit well with State Representative Carol Hagan McEntee, a Democrat who championed Rhode Island's law to extend the statute of limitations for child sex abuse survivors.

>"The Catholic Church needs to take a look at themselves and ask why they are closing churches and losing worshipers," Casimiro wrote in a statement to CBS News.

>In the immediate aftermath of distributing the flier, Bucci told the Providence Journal that local lawmakers were upset because their names and votes were made public: "If they are proud of what they have done, why do they want to keep it a secret?"

Taking a stand against abortion is good, but why aren't these people just excommunicated?

The article seems to try to spin him as defending pedophilia, I'm not sure what the original context was. As morbid as it is, abortion is literally killing a child and pedophilia, while unacceptable, is not.

Roman Catholic clergy need to be extra cautious when commenting on sexual crimes, especially in New England.

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What do you even do in the new earth/paradise/heaven?

I lapsed in my religion a while ago after a severe existential crisis and panic attack, I was orthodox at one point.

Could someone please try to explain why eternal life is good? Why would one actually look forward to living forever? What the hell do we even do? So far all I know is that heaven is described as being forced to sing and worship God forever, nothing else. On top of that, your friends and family could be suffering, but you'd be brainwashed to not even care.

So what does one even do in the new earth after the second coming? I have searched far for answers, all having different sayings, but its so vague. I am loosing any faith in this existential crisis. But it seems that no one actually has ever thought through the concept of eternal life, are people just oblivious and naive?

What can change my mind?

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Was Jesus a Jew at the time of his death?

Was Jesus a religious Jew at the time of his crucifixion, and just because Christianity wasn’t attributed an official label or name during his earthly ministry, can we still say he was a Christian?

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I can't fathom bearing a Christian life

Pretty much that.

I feel like God's very much real after having some experience after my first Communion, but my struggle is with fornication.

I beat porn addiction, but it feels impossible to not fap.

Also I'm in my 30s and I want to have sex… I can't wait for love or marriage. This week I visited a hooker and had such a great time. Why is it wrong to have sex before marriage? Why is it wrong to fap? I just don't see why. My godfather tells me we all have to go through some struggle that it's also supposed to make us better persons, but I don't feel like it'd make me a better person to deny my urges. I feel it's quite the opposite. If I were able to get the sex I needed, I'd be much better off I'm sure.

Also, is not like I didn't try. I did 100 days of no fap, and I just ended feeling miserable. I can't even pray. That's probably me just being pissed about having to repress my urges and not gaining anything in return.

By this point, I can't help but to think about my future if I want to live a Christian life. Even if by some miracle I were to find a wife and I were to not have sex with her before marriage, I have to deal with retarded rules like not being allowed to have sex with her with a condom or not being able to get a vasectomy because "muh reproduction needs to be allowed". Really? What if I can't afford to have kids, then I'm told to "abstain".

Not to mention stupid stuff like oral sex not being allowed (I think that's a thing). What else is not allowed? Am I allowed to suck my wife's boobs, or is that just too much? And in the midtime, Jimmy who happens to be sterile gets to bang his wife all day and not worry about kids popping up and it's ok for him to do it, because that's God's will or something, right… Really, how's a modern person supposed to live by these retarded rules regarding sexuality.

Not even at wife level are you allowed to live a normal sexual life, well maybe you can have a good time after her eggs dry up, when you're both old. Is this a joke?

I can't even be bothered to go talk to a priest. What's he gonna say?

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Pagan Scum burns down black churches

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51457787

I'm so tired of these absolute trash people. I don't know what to say. He not only bruned down churches for hatred of Christians, but he appears to hate people who aren't his own 'kin'. This is just rancid. I'm sorry I'm mad.

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What do you think of buff Jesus?

When you see this depiction of buff Jesus, what do you think? I mean, what thoughts come to mind?

This is a statue from a South Korean church. They didn't make it as a joke, it's just normal to them. I liked it and so when my friend drew me this picture in a church, I asked him to make Jesus and Saint Peter cartoonishly buff as well.

But I found when I showed the statue to a Christian woman, she went silent and seemed to be offended.

Why?

So that's why I'm here to ask what your thoughts are. I suspect you'd say it's blasphemous, but actually why?

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Protestants:

>Catholics believe in works salvation, to that don't really love god, they just want to accrue brownie points so the can get into heaven!

Also protestants:

>wow Catholics believe that If someone dies right after they go to confession they go straight to heaven no questions asked, that's so stupid!

Really activates my almonds

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Why do you need the Dead Sea Scrolls when you have the Septuagint?

Jesus himself used the Septuagint. If it was good enough for him, why isn't it good enough for us? Why don't modern translations of the Old Testament translate from the Septuagint?

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How to be Christian again?

How do I turn from an atheist to a Christian again? It seems impossible for me to believe in things such as Jesus's divinity, heaven or hell, etc… At best I can see myself turn into some kind of an hybrid Jungian-Buddhist deist.

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Church Apologizes For Saying Sex Is For Married Heterosexual Couples

>>>/newslus/252338

Archbishops in the Church of England have apologized for a statement issued last week that said only married heterosexual couples should have sex.

“We as Archbishops, alongside the bishops of the Church of England, apologize and take responsibility for releasing a statement last week which we acknowledge has jeopardized trust,” the Thursday statement said. “We are very sorry and recognize the division and hurt this has caused.”

On January 22, the Church’s House of Bishops published pastoral guidance regarding civil partnerships between same-sex and opposite-sex couples. “In its approach to civil partnerships the Church seeks to uphold that standard, to affirm the value of committed, sexually abstinent friendships and to minister sensitively and pastorally to those Christians who conscientiously decide to order their lives differently,” the statement read.

The Church said that their teachings on sexual ethics do not change for unmarried same-sex and opposite-sex couples in civil partnerships. “For Christians, marriage – that is the lifelong union between a man and a woman, contracted with the making of vows – remains the proper context for sexual activity.”

The original statement came in response to a change to England’s law regarding civil partnerships, which same-sex couples have been able to form since 2005. New regulations, which went into effect in December 2019, extended the ability to form civil partnerships to same-sex couples.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/01/church-of-england-apologizes-sex-married-heterosexual-couples/

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Most informative, cohesive and coherence screenshots:

Just want to share this, wich I just wrote and say that there is hope. Why don't you guys post your best screenshots that you or other ppl posted.

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Lent

Lent is in a few weeks, what are you going to give up? I think this year I'm giving up smoking. It's going to be really really hard but I'm going to try. You?

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Desire earthly life so, but...

How could I ever justify a want before my Lord? I am very attached to life lived alongside the virtues relative to this earth, including the desires of earthly prospering, marrying, procreating, having and defending a homestead, being about my people whom I miss so dearly in such a setting, especially with the world and how it is now.

Which is probably understandable, but also the desire to rebel against His commandments, by these earlier described ones.

How could I even look upon a beautiful woman hereabout where I live, or in a painting, or in thought, and not be struck with the greatest sadness over what has become of the world of them, and over my own denial into their world and the world of potential, or love between persons on earth, in favour of God? If we are called to love God before all, everyone, bar none, (Luke 14:26) how could desiring having a family ever be just? If we can help our sin at all, and truly will do anything for Him, how can we deny this notion? As a matter of fact, how could I deny any sacrifice inspired to me upon realizing it's possibility in my life, how could I deny such a thing?

If I am so flaming a horror of a sinner, how could I deny a single sacrifice before Christ, how could I ever, EVER want thus expect to fulfill it? And wanting it - righting the injustices committed against the family unit, providing that avenue of love and security and unglazed over humanity, that domestic engine of love which I saw insight in, those corners of that house in the light that noone seems to remember, the silent love, the dignified love, the uncompromising love, yet the love of man, as brought forth by the family. This is my whole life. But what is it before Christ? Are we not called to become new persons in him? In other words, how is it possible to justify NOT becoming a monastic?

I want to say my wants and longing is not rooted in evil - but of course it is! This is what every pagan in the world felt - how else could I differ from them in the matter. I realize this is a hard and special path a select few may be called towards, but let me put it another way, I fear I may be one of those few. Times are so late; my sins are so great, I am losing sight of the worldview I gained through my earlier life whereby the height of wholesome endeavour was the pursuit of this very thing, and I wonder, not whether it is right to seize it again, but whether even the thought is not sinful. Otherwise; how might romance live? Please help..

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False Doctrine

If Jesus said about the Father, in Jon 17:3, that he is the only TRUE God (THEON), then how are other two God persons of the trinity also true Gods, would they not be false Gods and contradict what Jesus said, or did Jesus not mean only when he said only?

John 17:1,3 NIV

1:After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: "FATHER, the hour has come…."

3: Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

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Catholicism and Homosexuality

<thread copied from /christianity/

Let's have an earnest discussion on this topic, because up until now it was shut down on /christian/ every single time by the Catholic mods. How prevalent is homosexuality among the Catholic clergy, and if homosexuality and pedophilia are as common as most sources claim (+50%), then how can the Catholic church even be recognized as a valid Christian organisation? I know Catholics will claim that this is all somehow fabricated and that only <0.1% of priests are deviants, etc. pp., but here are my sources, and I can find many more:

>“You’re so attractive,” he said. “You’re in great shape and you have beautiful clothes. Come on, you must know that everyone is staring at you all the time. You know full well that every guy here including the priests and even the bishop would f*ck you if they had the chance.”

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gay-catholic-inside-the-seminary-closet/

>But gay men probably make up at least 30 to 40 percent of the American Catholic clergy, according to dozens of estimates from gay priests themselves and researchers. Some priests say the number is closer to 75 percent. One priest in Wisconsin said he assumed every priest was gay unless he knows for a fact he is not. A priest in Florida put it this way: “A third are gay, a third are straight and a third don’t know what the hell they are.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/us/it-is-not-a-closet-it-is-a-cage-gay-catholic-priests-speak-out.html

>In September 2018 a report was leaked that reported that 3,677 children in Germany, mostly boys under age 13, were sexually abused by Catholic clergy members over the past seven decades". About 1,670 church workers, or 4.4% of the clergy, had been involved in the abuse which is "shocking and probably just the tip of the iceberg" according to Germany's Federal Justice Minister Katarina Barley[68]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases_by_country#Germany

I'm looking forward to a serious Catholic response to this. I want to stress that I know that there are many Catholics who are not sexual deviants, and that we must look towards our common enemy, but it's still a topic very worthy of discussion.

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Christian view on climate change?

Thoughts on climate change/global warming? (pic unrelated)

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Becoming a catuchemen

I desperately want and of course need to get baptized, and, in sharing with you all believe this ought be done within the orthodox Church. Some time ago, I made a thread asking you all about what the exact legalities and logistics should be if I want to attend my first mass as an unbaptized, uncatechized secular, or cultural Christian. I, since then, have found parishes within which this may be a possibility for me, but only their locations. I live in the Netherlands; orthodox Christianity is illusive for me, and quite hard to interconnect my life with. Nevertheless, when the decision is firm, and I, let's say, am ready to start my way to becoming baptized and attending said parish faithfully; where do I start? How do I become a catuchemen?

On a sidenote and thanks to the state of this board what with the threads that are up in the catalog now, I see no reason to not make a seperate thread to ask this. Thanks

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Sacrament problems

So I have debilitating ocd and can't go in a church because dead people have been in there for funerals. And I can't have a priest come to my house to give me confession because he has been in the church and is contaminated that way and my brain would react to that no differently from an actual dead person being in my house. And I can't take the Eucharist from his hands because 1) I can't even shake peoples' hands so there's no way in hell I can take something from them and put it in my mouth, and 2) the concept of Eucharist is extremely distressing to me because of the actual thing that it represents but apparently actually IS and also because of that Eucharistic 'miracle' where Jesus turned the wafer that fell on the floor into actual heart tissue to show that he's actually present in it, so there's no way I can ever take the Eucharist again. Even if I find a way to do confession (extremely unlikely) I'm never going to be able to recieve the Eucharist which Jesus says you have to do to gain eternal life. Do I have an exception because I have a severe mental illness that prevents those things? Protestants get to go to heaven and willingly deny sacraments, so how will God judge me?

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Board Claiming Discussion

Essentially, the situation is as follows:

>the BO has disappeared

>there's literally no moderation happening

Hopefully, soon-ish the two weeks will clear up and the board will be up for claims at https://8kun.top/claim.html , or at least Tutor will be back to moderate this place.

In particular, we quote from the claiming page:

>Most boards will be given away on a first-come-first-serve basis, but large boards with long histories may require multiple applications from many different individuals before a decision is made, at the discretion of the 8kun administration.

I feel like, in the interests of the board, it would be good if anyone who's considering sending a claim email introduced themselves and explained how they intend to manage the board, so that other anons could properly respond and criticize, and all of this could facilitate Jim choosing a new, good B.O.

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Rules and Meta

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First mass

I am going to my first Catholic mass tomorrow morning, and I am going to ask how I might start becoming a catuchemen, afterwards. I do know nothing of any of it, however. How should I best prepare? Is it even right first to attend?

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youve been brainwashed to believe there is a God. Someone told you when you were little and like an impressionable moron you believed them. Also there IS death. Read Acts of the apostles for christ sake. NO one goes to Heaven or Hell or the New Earth when they die, because JUDGEMENT-DAY-HAS-NOT-HAPPENED. Paul also thought he would live to see the second coming because paul and all the apostles thought they were living in the end times. They were wrong just like you

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is lesbianism acceptable?

I've got to be honest, I always grew up as christian and always relied on god to guide me, usually thinking about a problem, praying and trusting in his signs resolved whatever my hardships were, but now I am met with thoughts about other girls and nothing clears up. However much I think about it the harder it gets and I just want to know what god wants for me but I can't see his signs. As I said I am not losing faith but I feel left alone when I just want to be good.

So I've been searching for people who might know the word of our lord better than me and came here, when I'm a bit clearer I will go to my priest, but for now I'm still afraid to be met with harsh words if I'm open about my worries.

Now I'm turning to all of you, maybe you can give me some nods so I can see his signs again, feel guided and secure. I'm afraid to disappoint him by not getting through this.

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Sleep Paralysis/ Demoniac Presence

Hello, anons

I think its better if I go direct to the point:

Do you guys ever experienced Sleep Paralysis? I hope not.

Well, I've expericiend a couple times, it's awful.

And the last time it happened (4 days ago), I noticed something, whatever the thing that was beside me, it was controlling me in some way I couldnt move my body, this is "ok", because I couldnt move my body in the other cases, however for the first time this thing touched me! At first glance I thought it was my dog, trying to waking me up, but it wasnt, and sudenlly I got my body totally blocked and all I could do it was start praying in my mind, like all I always do when this things happens to me.

When I pray to God to free me from this nightmare and He doesnt make happen at first seconds, I get totally despair and angry, a horrible feeling - WHY CANT YOU HELP ME? PLEASE, FREE ME?

I noticed that I cant tell whats the worse feeling: the fact that theres a evil creature beside me or the feeling God wouldnt help me.

I think the people in the hell must feel like this, it's horrible.

In the end, God always helped me, the demoniac creature always fades away and I come to sleep like notthing happened, I just remembered what happened by the morning when I woke up.

How to make this stops, anons? I think this things are a bad signal, I used to go to rave parties and I stopped, this was a bad heavy thing I was doing, but now I dont know what I'm doing wrong.

Please, pray for me anons, I also I've been crying most of nights, deaths, suicidal and disgraces scenes are going to my mind, making me sad.

I guess I have to build a stronger relantionship with God, but I dont know how.

What book should I read?

What should I read?

I read the Daily Reading (almost) everyday and when I go to sleep I pray a Hail Mary and a Our Father, sometimes I also pray to my guardian angel.

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Is Reddit a good place for a conservative Christian

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Combatting Homosexuality

I don't know what to do anymore bros.

I've been dealing with attractions to the same sex for years of my life, all my pre-teen and teenage years I thought I had enough of a resolve to resist them but I've given in on more than one occasion now that I'm an adult. I know that I'm a disgusting degenerate. I know that in many people's eyes I deserve the death penalty for my actions, and I understand that entirely. There will be no point in my life where what I've done and it's effects can be erased. I have permanently damaged my mind and memories and if I were to be put to death, I would at least get the opportunity to be free of said effects. I know that's not going to happen in our current culture though.

I don't want to be like this. I have attractions to women, yet I keep falling into my perversion. How do I deal with this? How do I conquer my temptations and strengthen my resolve? I feel like I don't love God and fear Hell enough to do this. How do I solve these issues?

I apologize in advance if I am breaking any rules. This is my last place to go.

Just fyi, I am a Roman Catholic

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Not gonna lie, God in the Old Testament is pretty badass. Sometimes I like showing leftist retards verses from Leviticus about fags or from 1 Samuel about the Amalekites or from Numbers about the Midianites. It makes them go ape shit and it's funny as winnie the pooh. Lmao God doesn't give a shit what you think so btfo leftist retard. Lmao

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>It’s illegal for underage people to buy tickets to R Rated movies without parent permission

>underage girls can get as much abortions they want without parents permission

Is there a bigger Joke than ((America)) being a Christian nation?

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Is beauty subjective or objective? How is it determined?

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>Be atheist

>Defend Islam and Judaism

Why Is this so common?

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If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.

(Luke 14:27)

Is it immoral to leave your wife and family to become a monk?

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Why don't catholic priests just castrate themselves voluntarily?

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Islam is the religion of antichrists?

So is Islam basically the shadow of Christianity? It's basically Satan's counterfeit church right? To me it seems like the struggle between Christianity and Islam is simply a continuation of the Genesis 3:15 prophecy.

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Is the /christian/ board here still moderated like it was on 8chan ?

Or is it there no moderation whatsoever on this board now ?

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Any /reformed/ here?

Feels like the entire Protestant world is dying around us, but our churches are alive, not seeker-sensitive, not watering down scripture, and yet growing.

Do we need a general thread?

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Just for fun, can anyone tell me how accurate is this show's depiction of hell is compared to the real hell?

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What does a Protestant sola scriptura guy like me do when the only churches I have available are the prosperity gospel peddling Israeli cocksucking rambling pastors whose laity have a cult idolization of said pastor and will get mad and yell and belittle the moment you express even a slight disagreement with his sermons or miss a couple days of church or the super soi cucked ones where they don’t even practice the Bible and will spout pro-illegal refugee and literal homo shit? This is the current state of Protestantism in the Western world folks

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Are jews the baddies?

Okay so here is the summary of jewish history in Egypt.

>be joseph

>your own brothers sell you into slavery to egypt

>be good at counting shekels

>pharaoh makes you the high chief of food and crops

>god sends famine to egypt

>natives sell all their land and belongings for food basically becoming slaves

>keep most profits and become the most rich and influential person in egypt

>invite all your brothers and their families to egypt and give them cushy positions

>your people basically own the whole country for the next 400 years

>a new pharaoh takes power

>throws you out

>before you go you take huge loans from egyptians because you intend to leave anyway and won't pay back

>spend the next 40 years genociding everyone you meet on your way through the desert

So why did the jews make themselves look like the bad guys in their own holy scriptures? And why do we pretend like they aren't? I mean, objectively speaking, the things they did were pretty terrible, all things considered.

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Redpill me on denominations

Hello frens, let me give you a quick rundown of my understanding of the world thus far

>Raised atheist/borderline agnostic

>Parents apathetic to religion

>Spend childhood as le fedora tipper

>Around 16/17 started to get redpilled politically

>Became full on 14/88er national socialist by around 19

>Spend vast majority of my time at university being a heavy smoker and a stoner

>Take LSD occasionally, and then end up having a horrifying paranormal experience which cements my faith in Christ, but couldn't take it seriously because I percieved modern Christianity to be utterly cucked

>Find Steven Anderson's channel through /pol/ - he makes me realise that many of my political views were congruent with Christianity

>Finish university and get back home, get Bible, get saved

Now I'm at a loose end and want to get serious with my faith so I need to start attending church (from the UK, btw). The problem is, it seems to me like the papacy is compromised by semitic/demonic influences (the main issue being the pope's shilling for brown invasion into Europe which is heavily Islamic which seems very nonsensical to me)

I used to use 8chan before it got shoah'd and only today just realised that 8kun is actually up and running so I was glad to find this board. But when I did, I was surprised by the number of Catholics on here who defend the Catholic church in spite of its endorsement of the destruction of the white race. I also recently started listening to E Michael Jones who is very knowledgeable on the JQ, but follows an organisation that appears to be doing the bidding of the Jews. For these reasons I am leaning toward Protestantism due to the fact that the availability of independent baptist churches means that one could theoretically easily find or establish a church that promotes the interests of the people, while still upholding the faith.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone with this post but all I'm trying to do is find the truth and anyone is welcome to give their opinion on the denominations, but please try to avoid the ad-hominem shilling that I've been seeing up and down this board. I simply want to know why I should choose one particular denomination over the others.

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The United Methodist Church is ending soon?

I heard they're going to be splitting soon over the issue of homoness. Is this true?

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Trad Catholic Communities

There is this place in Kansas where traditional Catholics are moving.

I'm considering moving there, or someplace like it, and ditching things like the internet because they're bad for my Sanctifying grace.

How traditional is the SSPX?

Are there other Trad Catholic communities?

I want my daughter to grow up in a Catholic community. Even in middle school where I live, the student dress immodestly and the curriculum is a bit degenerate.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/retreat-christian-soldiers/603043/

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I don't believe in god change my mind

title tbh

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Day of the cross coming

Kike on a stick

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Is Bodybuilding good? [Catholic]

I want to build up my physique but apparently, as Catholics, we are called to eat only one meal a day (not that we must but rather, we should strive for it). There's no way you'll be able to meet all of your body's caloric and nutritional needs with one single meal which basically means you can't do anything that would raise those requirements - meaning no bodybuilding.

https://testeverythingblog.com/what-constitutes-fasting-in-the-catholic-church-17972d84dae

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Why did God make tiggers so winnie the pooh retarded?

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What is the /christian/ opinion on jews?

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So much for /co/ saying there no such thing as homosexual agenda being pushed in cartoons.

https://cnmnewz.com/2018/08/19/jewish-woman-brags-about-making-a-homosexual-cartoon-for-children-to-bring-them-to-homosexual-love/

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Is burning anything that has God's name on it a sin? Even if what you are burning contains blasphemy

If I were to burn the Talmud or any other blasphemous book would it still be sinful because it contains God's name?

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I really, really dislike this guy and what he's done. I can't pray for him right now. What do

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Lost and confused

How do Christians choose one version of Christianity over another? How can all of you be so certain that your Bible is 100% accurate and that other Bible is not? How can you be sure that you are actually putting your faith in God himself, and not simply the word of other men? I am willing and able to accept the general worldview of Christianity as true, what I can't understand is how can one know which books are the true word of God and Christ and which are tainted? If they are all written by men, how can you put your faith in them and call it faith in God? Clearly some details were made up by men, and most are wse words written with good intentions, but how do you… Find certainty? Faith? Truth? I think Christianity is more or less the truth, but how do you know which sources on the subject are trustworthy and which aren't? How can you all be so sure of the specific versions you chose to beleive? I'm finding myself lost in life lately and have had these questions most of my life, but never found good answers. I come from a Christian background have been pretty agnostic my entire life. I do absolutely beleive there is a God at least, but I don't have any firm beliefs on who or what God is exactly. I'm genuinely lost and looking for help here.

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Are there any other Methodists around here anymore? Perhaps a UMC/Free Methodist/AME etc General?

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Facebook:

>There are 71 genders

Leading Roman Catholic politician:

>Not so fast, fedora! There are only 3 genders!

What did he mean by this?

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Why did you come back here?

Christchannel.xyz works just fine and is much further divorced from the degeneracy of the rest of this site.

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Pope slaps away worshipper's hand

The audacity of this guy. Tells people to be patient and to import millions of violent throat cutting maniacs. Slaps a worshippers hand and shouts at her instead of giving her a second of his time. To be clear, the woman was absolutely wrong in grabbing him. But there is nothing that justifies this reaction. Personally, it was hard and heartbreaking to watch. Almost brought tears to my eyes even. Can you imagine being a devout worshipper of Christ, waiting for a chance to meet his representative on earth your whole life, and then being treated like a dog by him? Just how long are you catholics going to put up with this absolute heretic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WySwhj2SwE&feature=emb_logo

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Catholicism and Nationalism -- Compatible or Not?

Hi /christian/, I have been struggling to reconcile my faith with my nationalistic views… can Catholicism and Nationalism be compatible and not contradictory? If so, how? (pic unrelated)

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Baptist Thread

Re-making this thread since the last one died recently

The Gospel

>1 Corinthians 15:1-4__

"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

>Romans 10:9-10__

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Baptist Confessions, and Statements

London Baptist Confession of 1689 (Calvinist): http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/bcf.pdf

Baptist Faith and Message (Arminian Inclusive): http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

Notable Modern Baptist Teachers

Albert Mohler: https://albertmohler.com/

James White: https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

John Piper: https://www.desiringgod.org/

Leighton Flowers: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrLeightonFlowers

Robert Truelove: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQPPHf_DdqfJP5RyosVxhZA

Steven Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611

William Lane Craig: https://www.reasonablefaith.org/

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Catholic Charities

Does anyone have a list of Catholic charities that are of traditionalist virtue( E.g. NOT Pro LGBT/modernist) I would like to give more to charity, but don't want to support "charities" that go against the values of Christianity. Can you help a brother out?

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Am I reprobate?

A little backstory

>be me, a teen

>depressed and lonely and wanted a partner to help me feel better

>been in 2 relationships with men as a teen (2 men, one being a trans-woman who later realized he was just gay and was encouraged to by his friends to think he was trans)

>never had sex, but realize how disgusting it is and how it leads to failed relationships

>it also failed to bring me joy, and made me more depressed

>called upon the name of the Lord in the midst of my depression

>constantly looked up Christian apologetics

>realized Christianity must be true

>still depressed

>still don't feel the Holy Spirit in me as a person

>still have same sex tendencies

I want to change my life around. I've read about half the Bible so far, and have constantly learned about Christian doctrine, but I still have severe anxiety that "God gave me over" to a reprobate mind to do these unnatural things, among other disgusting things I was (and still am) into. The last 3 things mentioned being, what I feel, is proof of "God giving me up". I don't know what to do at this point?

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I think I have demons.

I hear voices, or they aren't just random voices, but personalities that I can have a dialogue with.

They are purely evil and they hate Christianity. They might for example order me to hide my bible. When I am church they spout derogatory shouts, usually related to sex or feces. This is especially the case when priest blesses the Eucharist.

They are also very concerned with cleanliness, and to them its highly important that I wash my hands often for example. They call me their son, and represent themselves as my mother or father, depending on the occasion. They always active at night, and usually the dialogues are related to paranormal or occult phenomena.

I'm in contact with doctor I see regularly, I have medication I take every day. However I can't get the idea out of my head that they might be demons instead of a medical condition. If it was just my mind, why would the voices, or demons, hate Christianity so much?

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What are orthodox Christians and Catholics thoughts on the movie agora?

Hypatia of Alexandria

>>Female neoplatonist

>>Very smart woman

>>Led a celibate life (not a thot)

>>Teacher who taught at the library of Alexandria

She was Killed by a mob of Christians led by saint Cyril who, from some sources, claim they killed her because she was a woman who taught science and philosophy and other sources say that they killed her because she was associated with paganism and the Christians burned the library of Alexandria to the ground.

If your are a ran Catholic or an orthodox Christian and you've seen this movie, what are your thoughts on it?

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Christian Game Reviews: Thoughts on Johanka's ending (Kingdom Come: Deliverance DLC)?

If you've played through this DLC in which Johanka's story focuses on something of Catholic or Christian significance, spoilers alert:

She receives visions from Mary that happen to be true but ends up being trialed by the inquisition in which the outcome can result in her being lashed and complying with agreeing to never preach again, in which a miracle happens and somebody is healed by Mary.

The other is sentencing to death by the inquisitor.

What are your thoughts on the storyline and do you think it was overtly biased against the church in any ways? If so then how etc?

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I recall in the 90's pastors were saying to not play Doom and similar games because they were filled with satanic imagery. That's true, but so what? The objective is to destroy demons and battle your way through the abominations of a hell planet that human pride and ignorance has created somehow.

I booted up some old school FPS games and still don't see anything wrong with them.

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Why is Satan still trying?

Hey Christanons, I was thinking today about temptation, intrusive thoughts, and attacks by Satan on us every day and had this thought. Why is he still trying if we all know that God has won, without a doubt from the beginning of time? Is it pride or something more?

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Starting to see more people realizing demons are real. If demons are real which means angels and god are real too. There a reason why Satanism so popular in transgenderism. Tranny propaganda is the one thing that seem to be awakening people to leftists sickness.

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GOTFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>only now people realize the dumpster fire that got really is

TOLKIEN WINS ONCE AGAIN,

CHRISTIAN FANTASY REMAINS UNDEFEATED

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Coming soon - Logos Rising: A Catholic book on the History of Logos and the Logos of History.

By Doctor E.Michael Jones

Logos Rising: New Book Coming Soon.

"In the beginning was Logos, and Logos was with God and Logos was God"

https://www.fidelitypress.org/logos

Just shilling this Catholic book by E.Michael Jones coming early 2020, about the Logos of History., and the History of Logos.

God is Logos, and in the beginning was Logos and the Logos was made flesh in Jesus-Christ.

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Cultur e Wars Magazine:Fatally Flawed: A Review of Taylor Marshall's Infiltration

By Jonas Alexis.

Full article for free here: https://culturewars.com/news/infiltration

It's a 45-60 minutes read but it's absolutely golden and it teaches a LOT of hard facts that Taylor Marshall didn't talk in his book.

Very recommended article to read !

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Communism and capitalism are two heads on the same satanic coin. Both are evil and should be rejected. You can’t be close to god and worship the false idols of capitalism and communism.

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Fiction/pop culture that led you back to Christ.

This might sound silly but is there anything non-religous that brought you back to Christ?

For me it was Solair. Even though he isn't Christian and there's a very high chance that he falls later in-game, there's just something about him that inspired me. His way of being a guiding light in the darkness that surrounds him. It showed me a small taste of how beautiful faith can be.

Did you ever experience something like this? Please note, this is not a rec thread on Christian fiction like Lewis or Tolkien. Just a personal thing that brought you close(r) to faith.

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Protestant

Are some of you Protestants? And if so, what kind of Protestantism? Lutherism? Baptism?

And can you tell me what's the difference between your version of Protestantism and other versions?

Pic unrelated

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I went to my first mass today

I am a 21 year old Male. Not catholic. I really enjoyed it and it felt like the first genuine church I've been to in a long time. I felt closer to Jesus than I ever have

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Alabama

Alabama abortion ban passes overwhelmingly with no changes

By Mike Cason

Alabama lawmakers aiming to challenge abortion rights nationally are one step from their goal of putting an almost total ban on the procedure into state law.

The Senate tonight voted 25-6 to pass a bill to make it a felony for a doctor to perform an abortion. The bill is a priority for the Legislature’s Republican majority. Tonight’s vote sends it to Republican Gov. Kay Ivey, who could sign it into law.

Lori Jhons, Ivey’s deputy press secretary, said in an email tonight that Ivey would not comment on the bill until she’s had a chance to thoroughly review it.

The bill passed exactly as it was introduced by Rep. Terri Collins, R-Decatur, about six weeks ago. It includes only one exception – to allow abortions in cases of a serious health risk to the woman. The goal is to trigger a legal challenge to Roe v. Wade.

“I would say that we’re all very pleased to have this done,” Collins said at a press conference after the vote. “We’re excited about the possibilities that it could mean. It’s been difficult at times, and then at times it’s been really good. I felt really good about it all the way through.”

Under the bill, a woman receiving an abortion would not be criminally liable. The doctor would be charged with a Class A felony, punishable by 10 to 99 years in prison.

The bill passed the Senate on party lines after four and a half hours of debate, with all the Republicans who were present voting for it. No Democrats voted for the bill.

With Republicans holding 27 of 35 Senate seats, passage of the bill was not in doubt. A key question was whether the Senate would add an amendment to allow abortions for pregnancies caused by rape or incest.

Sen. Clyde Chambliss, R-Prattville, who handled the bill in the Senate, urged his colleagues to reject the amendment, saying that all unborn children deserve protection.

Four Republicans sided with the Democrats in voting for the rape and incest exception, but it failed 21-11.

Senate Minority Leader Bobby Singleton, D-Greensboro, who proposed the rape and incest amendment, said it was disgraceful to leave out the exception.

“You just raped every woman who’s been raped by a man,” Singleton said, his voice rising with emotion. “You just raped her all over again.”

Singleton said three rape victims were in the Senate gallery as his guests and talked about the hardships they went through.

“This is just a shame, this is a disgrace, this is a travesty," he said.

Collins said her goal was to pass the bill in a form she thought would serve as the strongest challenge to Roe v. Wade. She said states could later decide what exceptions to allow if the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. She said she would support a rape and incest exception if that happens.

“I’ve answered many emails from people who have poured out their hearts with real stories that were true,” Collins said. “My goal with this bill is not to hurt them in any way. My goal with this bill, and I think all of our goal, is to have Roe vs. Wade turned over, and that decision be sent back to the states so that we can come up with our laws that address and include amendments and things that address those issues."

There are only four women in the 35-member Senate, and two of them were among the most outspoken opponents of the bill on Tuesday.

Sen. Linda Coleman-Madison, D-Birmingham, proposed an amendment that would have required the state to provide prenatal care and medical care for the mother and the child in cases when a woman is denied an abortion because of the law. Democrats said a lack of support from Republicans on issues that can help low-income families, like Medicaid expansion, undermines their argument about protecting unborn children.

“The sin to me is bringing a child into this world and not taking care of them," Coleman-Madison said. "The sin for me is that this state does not provide adequate care. We don’t provide education. And then when the child is born and we know that mother is indigent and she cannot take care of that child, we don’t provide any support systems for that mother.”

Senators rejected her amendment 23-6.

About an hour after Republican senators voted down the rape and incest amendment, they voted to cut off the debate and force a vote on the bill.

Chambliss, asked about the legal costs the state would incur if the bill becomes law and is challenged in court, as the sponsors intend, said it would be money well spent.

“Life is a gift of our creator and we must do everything that we can to protect life," Chambliss said. "And if it is a couple of million dollars, that is a small, small price for those lives.”

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Pope compares abortion to 'hiring hitman'…

Pope Francis made the claims at a Vatican-sponsored anti-abortion conference

http://archive.today/2019.05.26-002543/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7069883/Pope-compares-abortion-hiring-hitman.html

Pope Francis has compared abortion to 'hiring a hitman' during a Vatican-sponsored anti-abortion conference. Abortion can never be condoned, even when the fetus is gravely sick or malformed, Pope Francis said during a pro-life conference held in the Vatican this morning. He urged doctors and priests to support families to carry all pregnancies to term - even where death is the result. The Pope claimed his opposition to abortion was not for religious issues, but for human ones. He said: 'Is it licit to throw away a life to resolve a problem? 'Is it licit to hire a hitman to resolve a problem?' Francis disagreed with abortions done on grounds of prenatal testing which reveals problems with the fetus. He said a human being is 'never incompatible with life'.

Even if a baby is so unwell it will die in the womb or shortly after birth Francis says they should be looked after for as long as possible. 'Taking care of these children helps parents to grieve and not only think of it as a loss, but as a step on a path taken together,' Francis said. The conference was organised by the Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life, and the 'Heart in a Drop' Foundation, which works to welcome 'children born in conditions of extreme fragility'. He told the crowd every child is 'a gift that changes the history of a family…and this child needs to be welcomed, loved and cared for'. He said often the 'mere suspicion of disease can change the experience of pregnancy,' and even risk 'throwing women and couples' into a 'deep despair'. But 'the evolution of every disease is always subjective and often not even doctors know how it will manifest itself in the individual', according to the Pope. Francis has spoken out strongly against abortion, although he has also expressed sympathy for women who have had them and made it easier for them to be forgiven.

In 2015 he wrote a letter to the Vatican saying priests could use their discretion to formally forgive women who had an abortion and wanted absolution. At the time Joe O'Brien, writing for Catholics for Choice, said: 'The very narrowness of Francis' idea of a particular "year of mercy" suggests that he still has a blind spot when it comes to women and what they need or want. 'In all the talk about abortion and women, Francis also fails to mention men—a sin of omission I have no doubt—considering that men are just as involved in the baby-making process, as well as often part of family planning decisions.' But in June 2018 the Pope likened abortion to Nazi eugenics - saying parents should accept the children God gives them. At a meeting of an Italian family association he told those gathered that as a child he was horrified to hear stories from his teacher about children 'thrown from the mountain' if they were born with malformations. 'Today we do the same thing,' he said. 'Last century, the whole world was scandalised by what the Nazis did to purify the race. Today, we do the same thing but with white gloves.'

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The New Testament's legitimacy

No ban please, thank you, I just want to know. How can we be sure of the New Testament's legitimacy? The books were written several decades after Christ sometimes by people we don't even know or by people who didn't even witness the events told, then to my understanding, more than a century after, these writings were compiled into the New Testament by the officials of the Church.

How can we be sure?

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A reminder, you have less than two weeks to submit your base roster to the 8cup thread and secure your entry into the 2019 Summer Cup.

>>>/8cup/3090

http://infinitycup.shoutwiki.com/wiki//christian/

If you want to use your old roster (link above), just say so. It'd be a real shame if you guys don't join up, you're the back to back champions after all.

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Something dead wrong is going on with the Russian church

1917 imminent

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/21/kremlin-is-spending-43-million-renovate-imperial-mansion-orthodox-patriarch-a65667

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Welcome back, everyone.

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orthodoxy n shiet

I don't know what to start with.

The protestant church in Germany is cucked af and I've been raised atheist mostly while having been baptised and given membership in protestant church.I want to find the way to god and have been rading the bible and new testament just recently. There is an orthodix community nearby should I try or look for something else?

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Christian Family

Hello anons. Anyone one here who are parents or soon to be parents?

What is it like raising kids in the faith? especially with the world as it is nowadays. What do you do to compensate for the shortfalls of the world?

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Skills Christians should know

What should we be versed in to prepare for our lives as strong fathers and spiritual warriors? I get demotivated when I'm not self improving and have nothing to do all day, so I'm going to try to finally learn Latin and learn differential equations along with getting serious again about the gym. What skills do you think are important?

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What would god think of racism and immigration? Like I hear some /pol/ guys say they wanna become Christian every now and then, but weren't we all made equal in the eyes of god?

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I've been looking for a non-denominational, or basically any, Christian Church in my city. There's absolutely none, it's dominated by either Catholics, Mormons, or Adventists.

All the Christian Churches I've looked for have horrible music and rock bands instead of hymns, and are a mix of evangelical/pentecostal singing and praise. It's absolutely terrible to the point that I'd rather be a Catholic despite of believing exclusively in the Bible.

I have no idea what to do and I'm completely empty spiritually.

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I feel called to the Priesthood

But when I tell people they look at me funny and some people have asked my friends if they think I am a pedo…

Is it a tainted vocation now?

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Are there any priests here?

I dont know if they're forbidden from the internet or not, sorry for my ignorance

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Authority of paul according to protestants

Got into an argument with a guy from Kik, he told me that I was wrong for some insane reason. I show him pieces of holy scripture from the book of 2 Thess., and he tells me and I quote

>paul doesnt decide what is and isnt a sin

Like, honestly, how do you even debate against someone who doesnt believe Paul's works were inspired

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Chastisement

Will the Chastisement be in our lifetime or Do we really not know? I'm concerned it may happen before i have kids and I may never be able to do my plan in life. Help this concerns me and some anons say the Antichrist is coming. What do I make of this?

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What is the best version of the Bible to use?

I have been reading samples of every version and I seem to like NIV the best. The wording isn't obtuse and they also include the context of the passage which makes for better understanding.

But almost everyone I ask seem to balk at the idea of using NIV for some reason.

What is the best Bible if your priority is easy digestion and importance on context?

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Everything in Genesis before Abraham is allegory right?

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Christian rap?

Hi /christian/, I've been fascinated with the song "Jesus Walks" by Kanye West lately. While far from the most tasteful this kind of song could be, it does resonate with me on some level. I feel it's not a terrible representation of one's struggle to keep the faith in the kind of world we live in, all debate about Kanye's perspective on these things aside.

Can rap music still be tasteful and reverent in keeping with lyrics and themes for Christians to relate to? Any with high quality beats/production on Kanye's level?

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What is your opinion of communion in the hand?

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Joshua Harris, author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye, is leaving Christianity and divorcing his wife. I read his book in high school and wonder if any Christanons have as well.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/07/whither-evangelical-purity-culture-thoughts-on-the-legacy-of-a-lost-pastor/

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What if I choose the wrong church?

Choosing between Orthodoxy and Catholicism was the hardest choice in my life. I ended up Orthodox by Gods grace, but there's the terrifying notion and possibility that I possibly chosen incorrectly and have screwed myself over. I don't really have much of a desire to convert to Catholicism, I don't know if I should or if it's the actual right church or not. I am not making any sudden jumps. I just mainly desire to grow closer to God, and feel Orthodoxy would be the best option. Of course there's many other reasons why I converted but that's not important. I would say i'm ignorant of Catholicism if it IS the true church, but the whole history and possibilities in Christianity is so damn complicated and messy, that I just would rather focus on life and building a relationship with Christ rather than worrying about the issue.

What are the chances I chosen wrong? Will I still be saved by God? I pray God will forgive me if I made the wrong choice.

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How do you cope with the fact that you really are to expect no comfort in this life as a christian? The bible states multiple times that if you are not being dragged through a ditch by society and completely broken then you are not living as jesus would have wanted. Your reward is in heaven, not here.

How do you cope with a hellish life and are ignored when you call out for help, even though you know it makes no sense to do so but you are so utterly broken it is a reflex. How do you cope when prayer does not console you, nor does the idea of your reward being in heaven, yet you still go through the motions as best you can to be good even though you are devastated on the inside. You do it because it is right, but you are still miserable. How do you cope? thanks.

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Marriage

So there are alot of angry Christians out there, mad at other Christians who do not get married and have children. Some have even called me a Satanist because Im not married. Its a commandment by God. Be fruitful and multiply.

Thing is I cant. Im a typical adult neckbeard who lives with his parents working a low wage job. I dont have many skills, plus im fairly unattractive so marriage is out of the question. No woman would want me, and even if one did her life would be worse for it.

Now I could jump on the hamster wheel of self improvement and work on this, but its going to take awhile.

So my question is this. Am I going to hell if I never marry? What if the Lord is calling me to remain single? Or what if Im just inadequate the rest of my life? And are there not bible passages saying singleness is preferable provided you are celibate?

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Why does she so easily trigger prots?

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Tattoo

Hi fellow Christians, i have a doubt, what is your position about tattoos ?

i know Leviticus 19:28 says against. Also

Corinthians 6:19 says against somehow.

so, what is /chirstian/ opinion on tattos.

I am asking becaus of my vicious tattooed past.

Cheers.

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Are video games idolatry?

“You shall not make for yourself any idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth"

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Debating hysterical individuals...

Hello all, I recently had a 7v1 (against me) discussion about why same-sex marriage should be outlawed… I attempted to present evidence and tried to cite my source upon them asking (all this amid me being labelled as a "f*cking idiot" and "paedophile" because I am a Catholic)… I asked these people if they wanted me to cite my evidence for a particular claim (which was that homosexuals are much more promiscuous than heterosexuals), they said "yes" and as soon as I began, I was met with yelling and abuse - in essence, they were purposely interjecting and attempting to belittle me due to their strength in numbers. I did not yell nor swear at them once, however they behaved so savagely towards me. I then assume that one of them began to record the encounter as they were urging me to simply 'list' all of my political views. I left the server then soon after returned to see them talking about whether or not they screenshot my profile picture etc…

could I have conducted myself any better in this situation and do you think they're trying to dox me?

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Debunking Evolution

Greetings, brothers, and sisters in Christ. I was wondering if we could have a general thread for debunking evolution. I'm still not completely sold on it just yet.

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I went to Natural History Museum last year, and when you enter there's this exhibition of skulls of humans and their ancestors.

Creationists, how do you explain this?

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Hello /christian/ I hope you all are doing well. This thread is a call to action and a /general/ thread for the Pan Amazon Synod happening in October of 2019.

Christian faithful everywhere are praying the 54 day Novena in hopes that Pope Francis either stops the Pan Amazon Synod or at least prevents it from creating heresy within Holy Mother Church. Believe what you want about Pope Francis good or bad but please help us out in the 54 day Novena. Prayer is a powerful tool that us Christians have and we all need to come together to make sure this upcomming Synod doesn't destroy Our LORD's Church from within.

The attached pdf explains everything about praying a proper novena to our Holy Queen. But here is the TL;DR but please read the PDF

>pray 5 decades of the Rosary everyday for 54 days starting with the Joyful Mysteries

>2nd day is the Sorrowful

>3rd day is the Glorious

>4th day restart the cycle with Joyful again

>do this for 54 consecutive days to Prove to God that we in the laity are devoted and worthy of a miracle

The last thing we as Christians need is to go through what Ancient Israel went through during the days of Ezekiel and Jeremiah. If we want to keep the Church that Jesus gave to us here on earth, I implore…no BEGGING you all to join me and many faithful Christians starting August 15th 2019 in this 54 day Novena with the special intention to protect Holy Mother Church from the Pan Amazon Synod by getting Pope Francis to put an end to it and any heresy it may create.

Additional links related:

 https://www.novenaforournation.com/54-day-novena/

 https://fatima.org/about/fatima-the-requests/54-day-rosary-novena/

https://www.romancatholicman.com/were-going-in-novena-for-our-nation-august-15-october-7/

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What

>Come back to 8Chan after a week without internet to physic exercise and be more closer to god

>Open /Christian/

>see gay porn after the half scrolling the 1st page

So anons, did you decleared war on /b/ or what?

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Seal of God

What is the seal of God? I was looking up revelation and see references to the seal of god which stops demons from targeting owners from getting the mark of the beast. WHAT IS IT? I'm really curious

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Former pick up artist Roosh V changes forum rules to not lead men to sin

>Due to my recent turn to faith, my sense of morality is becoming based on the Bible. I've stopped a lot of behaviors that I've used to do and am in the process of making other changes. I've also realized that the majority of my published materials and online platforms lead men into sin or enable them to partake in sin. I no longer want this to occur, so I am implementing two new rules on the forum that are effective on June 1, 2019.

1 .You can no longer discuss fornication or pre-marital sexual activity

Things you can discuss:

-Meeting women with the intention of entering a relationship with them

-Attracting women

-Going on dates

-How to enter relationships

-Using technology to meet women

-How to maintain relationships

-Sexual activity while married

Things you can no longer discuss:

-Meeting women with the intention of fornicating with them

-How to bang

-Physical intimacy with women you're not married to beyond the act of kissing

-Maintaining relationships with multiple women (i.e. spinning plates)

-Cheating on significant others (adultery)

-Using technology to fornicate

-Discussion of travel destinations which are best for fornication

-Stories of sexual activity while not married

-Promoting masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, etc.

2. You can no longer use pornographic or vulgar language

-Refrain from using terms like "I winnie the poohed her" or "I want to winnie the pooh her." Do not describe sexual encounters or situations that are beyond the act of kissing unless you are married.

-Refrain from using profanity if a cleaner word would suffice.

These rules will cause great change to the forum

The above two rules will mostly apply to the Game and Travel subforums. I know that I may lose some of you because of these rules, but I can no longer help men lead a life of sin, because doing so is weighing on my conscious.

I created this forum in 2008 to help men fornicate, so I don't know if it's possible to "retrofit" it for another purpose, but it's worth a try. In the meanwhile, I will gradually lock threads that break these new rules if they become active. The fully updated rules that new members see is stickied in the Everything Else forum. It can be viewed here.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73256.html

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BURNOUT

Hello anons, can anyone help me with spiritual burnout? I was doing so good with prayers and peace. NOW I AM SPIRITUALLY drained!!!!

I can't feel anything but tired and I want to scream. I WAS DOING SO GOOD IN MY FAITH! Now i feel NOTHING!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME

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I know this may seem like a silly question but I am asking it in good faith: Is it a sin to read the Bible or pray while on the toilet or going to the bathroom in anyway?

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Burnout

Hello anons, I have tried praying to Jesus successfully up to last Thursday. Now I am spiritually burned out and can't feel anything. I was doing SO GOOD and then Friday I fell into Lust after burnout. WHAT DO I DO? I was SO AT PEACE more then ever before. I want to feel again, but i'm spiritually drained. AHHHHHH

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Vaccines

So, with New York joining California, Arizona, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Maine in eliminating the religious exemption for vaccinations, it raises the question:

Are vaccines immoral?

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Orthodox Church of Ukraine

In this thread we'll post updates in Ukraine and their newly founded church so we don't have to derail the Orthodox general

The news are running like crazy and i think many people haven't yet realised the significance of the event.

We can also discuss our objections to the autocephaly if anyone has any. All opinions welcome but please try to be civil and elaborate on your disagreement.

Catholic opinions also welcome but please try to stay on topic.

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Is addiction to adrenaline a sin?

Is being an adrenaline junkie just a figure of speech or is it an actual addiction? I went skydiving for the first. Can’t get enough of it. I started bungee jumping and diving in deep waters.