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66e752 No.853685 [Last50 Posts]

Don't get me wrong it was inevitible that we all would be persecuted at some point in our life times, but why does the media in the west hate us?

Anything we do wrong is almost as if everying instantly jumps on the news and blame everything about Christians even to the point they would accept a foreign and alien culture that reviles them like islam, when a Christian gets persecuted or killed nobody would say a thing or care.

The media is against us

Most are Christians in name only

The government and elites are against us and make fun of us for being "intolerant'

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40eb37 No.853686

John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

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c7db55 No.853688

Because they have the devil whispering in heir ears. And obviously the devil's target is Christianity not islam. So the seeming contradiction of them embracing islam even though it has 'traditional values' while reviling Christianity at the same time becomes logical, the target is Christ and Truth not this or that value. Islam is anti Christ so its good, progressive values are anti Christ so its good.

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66e752 No.853689

>>853686

>>853688

I know that satan targets us but they never explained why maybe the closest we can get from a normie is that

>GOD KILLED GORILLIONS OF PEOPLe

Never reading into the context as to why.

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ed119c No.853720

File: 76f2d59293227e8⋯.jpg (140.97 KB,640x902,320:451,jeezus.jpg)

The problem is that some Christians don't really follow their own doctrines so they are seen as hypocrites.

The most obvious example are some American churches. There are contradictory ideas on immigration, money, war, etc

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67c5e1 No.853723

>>853720

This is an embarrassing case of cherry-picking in order to prop-up a liberal, pacifistic Christianity which has never historically existed except for in the post-liberal Western world.

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ed119c No.853731

File: 563cb19cac0e831⋯.jpg (59.3 KB,848x636,4:3,luke_629_31.jpg)

>>853723

Jesus was preaching pacifism from the very beginning

Humans managed to twist Jesus' words and make less pacifistic choices

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83d99e No.853734

>>853720

The story in John was about a literal stoning, not about naming sin. I'm not reading the rest of that garbage pic. God hates fags, it's in Leviticus and Jesus said he came not to destroy the Law or the Prophets.

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9e66c7 No.853737

>>853685

>why does the media in the west hate us?

You know (((why)))

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413584 No.853739

>>853731

Your image is pro-abortion. In other words, the maker of that image thinks we are no different than animals and can be killed if a convenient moment comes along. I would not trust much of anything that person says. Like baby-murdering communists, they devalue their own life, and the lives of those around them.

The other ones are just political manufactured points based on nothing but rancid and stale liberal stereotypes, which are only being used to prop up and excuse their own antisocial deep-seated extremism.

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ed119c No.853744

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>>853739

We are reaching levels of Godwin's law that shouldn't be possible

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66e752 No.853756

>>853720

Being a homosexual is a sin which is why he destroyed whole of sodom and gomorrah, because there was not one righteous person except Lot and his wife and daughters (who could be arguably righteous or not).

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7d3e95 No.853758

>>853737

I get that you want to be based and redpilled but Jesus was also a practicing Jew. Even though what we call Jews today hates Jesus, it doesn't make sense to force racial crime patterns into Jews when we worship a Jew.

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63c8ba No.853760

>>853758

Jesus was literally the first Christian who came to save the jews from damnation.

Some Jews accepted Jesus, were saved, and became Christians.

Some rejected him and became the Synagogue of Satan and turned from serving Almighty God to Satan.

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0a0f41 No.853764

>>853758

Modern judaism has nothing to do with Biblical Israel or with Jesus Christ. These people are not Jews in the Biblical sense.

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3fe156 No.853767

>>853685

The world hates us, for the same reason we hate the world. Be happy when you are persecuted for righteousness.

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66e752 No.853770

>>853758

>t doesn't make sense to force racial crime patterns into Jews when we worship a Jew.

Not necessarily we are worshipping a person who is also God do not forget that.

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9e66c7 No.853771

>>853758

>Jesus was a jew

>therefore we must bow before the so-called "jews"

Is this what protestants actually believe?

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6b680a No.853778

>>853771

I never said to bow to them, and it's not just the Jews that rule over us, it's other goyim rich people and the demons they worship.

>Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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66e752 No.853791

>>853778

Ya they are in all in on it.

It isn't just the jews it is also from the other global elite.

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66e752 No.853826

>>853778

>le and the demons they worship.

Who do they worship other than satan of course?

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7da11c No.853853

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>>853826

Some worship some version of Satan, other worship demons to do their bidding.

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99c471 No.853859

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>>853760

>Jesus was literally the first Christian who came to save the jews from damnation.

>Numbers 14:27 How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, which murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me.

I can post more verses, but you get the point anyway: Jesus wasn't the first prophet hated by the Jews.

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bd007e No.853899

>>853731

"I bring not peace, but the sword."

"Bring those who did not want me as their king here before me and slaughter them."

Very pacifistic.

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16f883 No.853934

>>853899

>I bring not peace, but the sword."

Not saying Jesus is a pacifist but in those verses Christ was speaking how his word would divide people and the other is a parable, that is not to say he wouldn't judge the world and go to war with the system of the beast.

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1146ae No.853960

John 15:18If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. 19If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.

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e3db36 No.853979

>>853778

There's also worldly philosophy(modernism, communism) and imaginations(transhumanism), egotism and selfishness(objectivism), and hatred of God's laws that they try to doublethink their way around which is more common than sorcery and often leads into it as they enter into the upper echelons of society to party on far-off islands and underneath mansions to be enticed into sin as they discover the Devil's cookbooks, rituals, and contracts for more worldly wealth, power and control.

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d6a19e No.853983

>>853758

He literally called out the Jews of His time for straying from the path for their own vanity. And they rejected and killed Him for it.

So, really, not much has changed. You should see some of the things today's Jews say about him. They won't even say His name, out of some weird social hang-up or something.

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ae0024 No.854345

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48b694 No.855884

>>853685

Because you are massive cucks. Instead of fighting for your rights or persecute those who persecute you what you MASSIVE FAGGOTS do is accept everything, accept SJWs insult u, accept femen chimpouting in your churches

Do you know what happened to the last femen who get into a mosque? She was beated up

If you do this everyone will fear you, but since you are massive faggots incapable of defending yourselves you stay there.

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7c035a No.855897

>>855884

>Instead of fighting for your rights or persecute those who persecute you what you MASSIVE FAGGOTS do is accept everything, accept SJWs insult u, accept femen chimpouting in your churches

I don't know who you think we are, but most of us here are either Evangelicals or Catholic-Orthodox. We don't support modernism/theological liberalism/progressive """""christianity"""""/whatever they call themselves now.

Besides, it's those modernists who are loved by the world. It's theologically conservative Christians (like Evangelicals and Catholic-Orthodox) that are hated by the world.

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549d0a No.855898

>>853685

To Jews, Jesus is "literary Hitler" and the media is simply a reflection of that hatred.

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bd007e No.855901

>>855884

As much as it pains me to admit it, the heathen is right. If Christians still had balls enough to use state power to enforce our beliefs we wouldn't be in this situation. But no, most Christians these days are more beholden to secular dogmas like freedom of religion and free speech and equals rights than they are to God's own commandments.

The inquisitions and blasphemy laws need to come back.

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927d00 No.855903

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>>855901

>The inquisitions and blasphemy laws need to come back.

Under man's government it's always the wrong people enforcing inquisitions and deciding what qualifies as blasphemy. Every time tribunals are set up by manmade governments, they end up using them to persecute true Christians. Whether it's the Roman Empire under Constantine/Honorius, the Germanic kings, Papacy (after the Investitute Controversy), the Protestant rulers like Luther or others, the Church of England, or the Puritans: They all persecuted baptists. Those who follow the New Testament exactly and represent God's church from the beginning by maintaining strict separation from the polluted assemblies. The first polity where separation of church from state was maintained was the colony of Rhode Island and Providence plantations, which later influenced the U.S. Constitution some hundred years later. We all know the story of the rise of this country afterward, and the invention of many technologies here.

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927d00 No.855904

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>>855903

Nowadays, modern political correctness, masquerading under the banner of science, seeks to become another state church, and arguably by some definitions has. They would just become another chapter in the story of the world raging against the church. The time for us to reign is going to be when Christ returns and brings a truly godly government to men. 'Til then, we have to deal with the world raging against the church that Christ established, which refuses to persecute, convert by the sword (i.e. jihad) or throw its enemies into prison when the punishment of the law belongs rightfully to the state entity and not the church entity according to Romans 13, as well as 2 Corinthians 6:14-17, Romans 16:17, 1 Corinthians 5:13, 1 Timothy 6:3-5 and all the other verses that deal with the church withdrawing and maintaining separation from the lost world: and only allowing those who have been baptized by the church into communion.

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4a5ada No.855939

>>853731

“Now, however,” He told them, “the one with a purse should take it, and likewise a bag; and the one without a sword should sell his cloak and buy one. For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For what is written about Me is reaching its fulfillment.”

So they said, “Look, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That is enough,” He answered.

Luke 22:36-38

Also note how He drove the moneychangers out of the Temple.

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4a5ada No.855940

>>855897

>Besides, it's those modernists who are loved by the world. It's theologically conservative Christians (like Evangelicals and Catholic-Orthodox) that are hated by the world.

The modernists aren't exactly loved by the world. At best, they are kinda tolerated.

More often, though, they get exactly zero credit or acknowledgement for everything they've done to be modern and 'progressive'. They drape themselves in rainbow flags and do everything to follow modern liberal dogma, and the liberal atheists they're trying to appease still say that they're no different from the Westboro Baptists.

It's a wonderful irony, really

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4a5ada No.855941

>>853685

>Don't get me wrong it was inevitible that we all would be persecuted at some point in our life times, but why does the media in the west hate us?

>Anything we do wrong is almost as if everying instantly jumps on the news and blame everything about Christians even to the point they would accept a foreign and alien culture that reviles them like islam, when a Christian gets persecuted or killed nobody would say a thing or care.

That's because the media is dominated by atheists, leftists and Jews.

The Jews are generally stuck in a culture of emphasizing antisemitism while never actually bothering to remember that there's also people who sincerely sympathize with them. Philosemitism? Most of them don't even know the word. To be sure, not all Jews are like this - there was a Pew poll a few years back that showed that about 25% of American Jews are at least somewhat positive about Evangelicals (while 75% of Evangelicals were positive about Jews). But the majority of Jews are very negative about Christianity.

The leftists hate Christianity because of both their ideology and their simple thought process. They don't really know s— about the world, so they just think that social problems only exist in white Christian societies. So they hate and blame Christianity specifically. Ignorance, myopia and cognitive dissonance on their part further bolsters this worldview.

And these types dominate the media because they dominate the universities. And they ended up dominating the universities because were allowed to do so during the Cold War. Large-scale communist infiltration was a thing, and it *worked*. The people who could have stopped it were just too damned naíve - they simply let the whole thing happen.

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289bb6 No.855949

Is OP either 12 or 120?

Its either / or to me!

Kek!

Have you even heard about the hatred of the world?

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48b694 No.855955

>>855901

Bruh that's was exactly what I said

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a3ea1f No.855971

>>853685

it's not just the media, most people hate you for trying to push your retarded delusions on everyone. people make fun of you because you believe ridiculous things and act like hypocrites. you tell everyone they'll be tortured forever if they don't agree with you, and then say that you're the ones being persecuted. you persecuted everyone else when you had the power to, but thankfully your weird cult is dying out now

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927d00 No.855983

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>>855971

What if Christ really did rise from the dead? Then what?

>you persecuted everyone else when you had the power to

When? I was born a little over thirty years ago - when did this happen, anon?

>and act like hypocrites.

Why make it about me if you supposedly have some problem with Christ? If you just have a problem with certain people, maybe they just aren't following Christ correctly. Is your problem with the Truth, or just with some people who self-identify as Christians?

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464cec No.855987

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>>855971

>"thankfully your weird cult is dying out now"

<meanwhile, in Anon's cult

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bc9030 No.856076

>>855971

>dying out now

You're delusional. It's only growing. There are more Christians now than at any time in history. Just because your dumb country or locale has less Christians doesn't mean anything.

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bc9030 No.856078

>>855983

>Why make it about me if you supposedly have some problem with Christ? If you just have a problem with certain people, maybe they just aren't following Christ correctly. Is your problem with the Truth, or just with some people who self-identify as Christians?

>>855983

>Why make it about me if you supposedly have some problem with Christ? If you just have a problem with certain people, maybe they just aren't following Christ correctly. Is your problem with the Truth, or just with some people who self-identify as Christians?

You're overthinking it. Most of these angry people have nothing in their lives. Not even the so called persecution they whine about Christians supposedly doing to them. They're boring people, basically. They're not even close to being as exciting as you might suspect. I've tried to dig into it before and kept coming up disappointed. They're soulless NPCs and don't even have pain to justify their inane screeching. They just subscribe to the current worldview doled out to them by State handlers and celebrities. Most of them don't even have "rational" atheistic stances to explain their rebellion. Nothing they stand for was arrived at by their own conclusions. If you try to get them to explain, it comes out as garbled sloganeering. A big sign of brainwashing. There's nothing there. They're just boring dupes who fell for propaganda. They're only mad at Christians for not playing along and following something else.

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7c035a No.856095

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>>855971

>people make fun of you because you believe ridiculous things and act like hypocrites.

"Ridiculous things" is a matter of opinion, but any Christian who acts like a hypocryte is by defenition doing a poor job at being a Christian. If hypocrisy in the church was the issue then Christianity would be the solution, not the problem.

>you tell everyone they'll be tortured forever if they don't agree with you, and then say that you're the ones being persecuted.

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. If this is a reason for people to hate us, we should expect people to hate those who warn about safety hazards in dangerous places. Hell (and any pain suffered within) is the result of bad decisions - neither God nor true Christians want anyone to go there.

>you persecuted everyone else when you had the power to, but thankfully your weird cult is dying out now

Firsly, name a single person that I persecuted.

Secondly, Christians are currently being violently persecuted right now in various countries. Try going to North Korea or ISIL-territory and tell me with a straight face that Christian persecution doesn't exist.

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a3ea1f No.856173

>>856095

ok, in your opinion talking snakes and walking on water is not ridiculous. Don't be surprised when everyone laughs at you. you act like you're superior to everyone because you decided to devote your whole life to a zombie carpenter, and yet most Christians are just as depraved as everyone else. No one resents people who warn about safety hazards, because they aren't worshipping that safety hazard. Firefighters don't worship fire, you worship a being you think will toss most of humanity into eternal fire. Normal people find that sick and disgusting. If your god doesn't want anyone to go to hell, why do people go there? who sends them there? either god sends them there or he doesn't have the power to stop them, making him evil or weak. christians have spent 2000 years trying to wipe out every other culture and religion in the name of your death cult. you openly declare your intention that everyone will kneel before your lies and are surprised when people fight back. you seek out persecution and think you are holier because of it. but you are never content to leave others alone, you have to spread your mind cancer to everyone. to you persecution is being denied complete power over everyone else

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a3ea1f No.856174

>>856076

keep coping christcuck, there are more christians because the world population is higher. christianity is declining in every country that isn't an ignorant s—hole without internet access. pretty soon there will be more muslims than christians and then your persecution fantasies will really come true

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a3ea1f No.856175

>>85598

Then you'd be right, congratulations. Too bad there is no reliable evidence of that, and you have to just really wish it's true and call it faith.

What if Christ didn't really rise from the dead, but people lied about it? What would be different about world history?

It's fun to see all of you acting like christian history does not exist. When I say you persecuted, I refer to Christians as a whole. Since you consider yourself part of that club, certainly you can take some responsibility for the actions of your fellow zombie rabbi enthusiasts. I have no problem with your rabbi from nazareth, I have a problem with what you morons do in his name. It's cute how you have to capitalize truth to remind yourself that the truth is definitely true, just don't question it. Or He might get angry with you, and you wouldn't want that

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927d00 No.856177

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>>856175

>Then you'd be right, congratulations.

Thanks, anon. But it's not about me being right, it's just about the fact you should consider whether it is true.

That's all that matters in the end. You should be ready for it all to be true.

>I have no problem with your rabbi from nazareth, I have a problem with what you morons do in his name.

What, exactly? You realize that the fact I believe certain things are true and the fact other people share some of those things but do other things wrong has absolutely no bearing on whether the original claim is true? If someone has an accurate belief about one thing but does something wrong, that doesn't mean they were wrong in everything they believed. It just means they personally made a mistake somewhere. For instance, you have feminists saying that since wars happened in the past, that proves that patriarchy is wrong. Not only is this false reasoning, but feminism itself also has led to far greater deaths since it came along, such as the total number of abortions, which its advocates conveniently ignores. This kind of argument does not prove a problem with the underlying assumptions of Christianity, civilization or what have you. It just proves that some people did bad things for one reason or another. You can't point to some place in the Bible and find where it says we as Christians should commit jihad, so if people did that kind of stuff, this fact only proves they weren't observing the Truth.

>Or He might get angry with you, and you wouldn't want that

Exactly, I wouldn't want that.

"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."

- Psalm 2:12

>>856173

>If your god doesn't want anyone to go to hell, why do people go there? who sends them there?

In Job it says this:

"Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.

For the work of a man shall he render unto him, and cause every man to find according to his ways." - Job 34:10-11

Two other scriptures also says this:

"The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.

The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands."

- Psalm 9:15-16

"Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not."

- Isaiah 66:3-4

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ec5d1a No.856196

There are plenty of pharisean mammon worshipping televangelists, politicians and political donors who use "Christianity(TM)" to serve their own greed. We were once the popular religion in the west so we were surgically attached to these comprador "Christians". It goes on even to this day, Kenneth Copeland and Nick Fuentes. Among many more.

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3ebdfb No.856235

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>>853685

>even to the point they would accept a foreign and alien culture that reviles them like islam, when a Christian gets persecuted or killed nobody would say a thing or care

Nice strawman while another bomb goes off in the Middle East

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7c8e94 No.856259

>>856235

Another terror attack goes off in indonesia parts of africa.

Not a strawman when that happens nearly daily over there.

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9c2bce No.856260

>>855939

>“That is enough,” He answered.

Read it again. That is clearly sarcastic. In the same way we might say "Enough of this [nonsense]" or "I've had enough."

That verse doesn't mean what you think it does.

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bc9030 No.856271

>>853685

I don't care why or if I'm hated or not. I hate the world too. And I hate my old self who was also a part of it. I want nothing more than it's destruction. I can't really blame them if they think the same.

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078690 No.857097

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Because the fake Jews own the media. Oh wow big surprise, the world and it's worldly media is of the devil.

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