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prior to the creation of western protestantism (protestantism which resulted form martin luther) the jews were under complete subjugation and had very little rights. Under the laws of the Catholic church these things were enforced in every Catholic nation:

- Usury was banned (usury is making money via loans with interest)

- jews had to live in ghettos, which are zones specifically for jews to live in, they weren't allowed to live elsewhere

- jews could not have non-jew servants

- jews were prevented from owning too much land or even owning any land at all

- talmuds were burned upon discovery

- all jews had to attend compulsory church services meant specifically for converting jews

- all jews had to wear a distinguishing mark so people would know that they were a jew

- jews could not obtain the title of a noble

- jews had to pay a compulsory tax which christians didn't have to pay

- no alterations could be made to Christian doctrine (although decisions on undecided doctrine could be made, but only by the church)

- any person found to be a member of a secret society would be burned at the stake

for centuries these laws were enforced and Christian society was mostly peaceful (unlike what the lying modern "historians" claim)

but with the advent of protestantism introduced by martin luther society began its fall.

>>857843

As previously mentioned Jews and freemasons (*boundmasons) were greatly suppressed under Catholic authorities, this changed when prideful monarchs who didn't want to be under the authority of the Pope decided to adopt protestantism for their nations so they can be their own authority, this ultimately backfired when their underlings had the same idea as them and deposed them in favour of democracies and republics. these events were prophecised by St Hildegard von Bingen (d. 1179AD), when she said:

“The time is coming when princes and peoples will reject the authority of the Pope. Some countries will prefer their own Church rulers to the Pope. The German Empire will be divided. Church property will be secularized. Priests will be persecuted."

After the national leaders converted themselves and their nations to various forms of protestantism the laws which stopped jews and occultists were taken away. Jews could now own land, hire non-jewish servants, obtain noble titles, read and spread the talmud and most importantly, practice usury. Usury is how the Jews took control of the whole world, and they were only able to do so because of protestantism.

Another thing which happened is that occultists, namely the freemasons, began to slowly but surely surface into the public, since the governments no longer enforced laws which persecuted the freemasons they were now free to spread their errors widely in the public and begin to bring large numbers of men into their fold, this they could not do under Catholic rule where they would be oppressed into hiding and could not openly spread their lies.

As much as people like to complain about the nobility system (complaints which are mostly based on lies spread by masons and jews) what they don't take into account is that a society which bases its power ranking on heritage is better than our modern version which bases it on greed. With the abolition of monarchs and nobility the most influential and powerful people were those who made the most money, and they were those who were the most greedy, and they were most often Jews and freemasons. It is no coincidence that the industrial era came soon after the protestant reformation.

>>857844

So far I have established that it is the protestant reformation which ushered in the rule of the Jews and freemasons and converted the hierachy from a heritage and deeds based one to a greed based one.

With theie new found power and complete freedom to do as they please an attack upon the one true Holy church of God, the Catholic church, could now commence.

This took place in the form of widespread and highly organised infiltration of the Catholic church's priesthood, this is detailed in their book the "Alta Vendita" which was exposed by the Catholic church and Pope Pius IX and Pope leo XIII who made their work made known public to prevent their plans from coming true, and although their efforts may have delayed their plans the plan of the masons eventually came true with the false election of "pope" (*anti-pope) John XXIII in 1958.

here are some excerpts from Alta Vendita:

"We do not intend to win the Popes to

our cause, to make them neophytes of

our principles, propagators of our ideas.

That would be a ridiculous dream…

Now then, to assure ourselves a

Pope of the required dimensions, it is a

question first of shaping for this Pope

a generation worthy of the reign we

are dreaming of. Leave old people and

those of a mature age aside; go to the

youth, and if it is possible, even to the

children.

In a few years, by the force of

things, this young clergy will have overrun all the functions;

they will form the sovereign’s council, they will be called

to choose a Pontiff who should reign.

And this Pontiff, like most of his contemporaries, will be necessarily more

or less imbued with the [revolutionary]

Italian and humanitarian principles

that we are going to begin to put into

circulation"

Here we see a pretty clear plan, one which intends on invading the church of Christ and installing their own "priests" and spreading their errors amongst the other priests.

This plan of theirs succeeded in 1958 with the election of antipope John XXIII.

>>857845

As disheartening as this may seem just know that these things were all prophecised about and that satans century will be over soon (2038), it is likely that prior to 2038 we will even see a true pope be elected.

Saint Francis of Assisi (d. 1226) prophecised these events when he said:

"The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff (*potentially cardinal Giuseppe Siri?) and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death. Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it. There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God. Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who preserve their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and persecutions as rebels and schismatics."

Those who have preserved their true Catholic faith are called "sedevacantists" as we say that the seat of peter is currently vacant, we are called heretics and schismatics, by the novus ordo "catholics" because we deny the authority of the clearly heretical anti-popes. If anyone wants me to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that every "pope" since John XXIII is an anti-pope then just ask.

>>857846

St Bridget of Sweden (d. 1373) also prophecised this:

“In the year 1980 the wicked shall prevail ; they will profane and sacrilegiously defile the churches, by erecting in them altars to idols and to Antichrist, whom they will worship, and will attempt to force others to do the same.”

This is very interesting because in 1986 the anti-pope John-Paul II made a sacriligeous religious gathering which included; protestants (eastern and western), hindus, muslims, buddhists, taoists and more where they erected their own idols in churches, this has continued with the "pacha mama" nonsense that anti-pope Francis has spread.

Cardinal Nicholas of Cusa (d. 1464) also prophecised:

“… the Church would sink still deeper, (i.e in corruption) so that at last she would seem to be extinguished, and even the succession of St. Peter and the other Apostles seem to die out. Then, however, she would triumphantly raise herself once more in sight of all her doubters.”

here we are getting into the great monarch prophecies, who is a Catholic monarch who will conquer the whole world and will rule for a time and after his death will come the anti-christ, however that is a different subject which requires much more explanation, it is also something which will happen after 2038 (or starts just before).

perhaps i will write a thread in the future about the great monarch and the great pontiff but for now i must destroy protestantism.

the evil of the world, from jewish and masonic rule to the undermining of the Catholic church and the evil priests which were installed are all a result of protestantism, truly protestantism is the first form of liberalism, from which all liberal heresies originated and from which lgbt nonsense and religious equality nonsense originates.

Europe, protected from islam for over 1000 years by the Catholic church has now finally found an opening into Europe due to protestantism. atheism and paganism have also made grounds due to protestantism.

>>857847

I would like to finalise this thread with a logical debunking of protestantism, feel free to respond to my numbered arguments with a corresponding number.

most of these rebuttals on their own debunk protestantism yet i have a dozen of them for you to try to argue against:

1. faith alone being denied by the bible itself (james 2:26 or the whole chapter really)

2. bible alone not being in the bible and is therefore a self-defeating belief.

3. hypocrisy of those who claim "bible alone" who then remove books from the bible based on their own invented standards which are not listed in the bible or by the church fathers or any other Catholic doctrine.

4. protestants removing 7 books, from 73 down to 66, with 66 being very similar to the anti-christs number 666.

5. a lack of a foundation, the faith in the bible is illogical in protestantism because they deny the authority of those who compiled the bible.

6. many splits and bizarre beliefs popping up out of nowhere, each sect having its own set of unique beliefs that no other, or very few, sects have, proving that they aren't divinely inspired.

7. the protestant pastors are hypocrites who accuse the pope of putting himself in Jesus' place however they themselves claim to interpret the bible on their own via the holy spirit, yet they all have different interpretations, therefore they are claiming that their interpretation came from God when it actually came from themselves so it is they who are putting themselves in Jesus' place, making them hypocrites.

8. with all the varying interpretations of the various sects it can be utterly confusing for christians to know exactly what the true doctrine of the church is, such a confusion didn't exist prior to the protestant reformation.

9. also since they attest to the authority of the bible they become logically incoherent since they don't also attest to the authority of those who via actual interpretation by the holy spirit chose the books of the bible and seperated them from the hundreds of counterfeit books of the time, those who did that are the Catholic church, so to claim the bible is divinely inspired is to claim that the Catholic church is divinely inspired. So logic implies that protestant "pastors" are hypocrites and logic implies that in order to say that the bible is divinely inspired you must agree that those who compiled the bible are divinely inspired too.

10. if the protestant reformation came from God and martin luther was divinely inspired then all protestants must agree with every doctrine of martin luther, if they say they won't because they don't think he is divinely inspired then they must also agree that the protestant reformation did not come from God.

11. Those who deny the authority of the bishops and the pope and who attempt to put themselves in their position without being elected or chosen by any other authority are directly copying the actions of satan, who by his own authority tried to usurp the throne of God. protestants attempt to usurp an authority instituted by Jesus Christ by their own authority.

12. translating their bibles from manuscripts provided by jews who have been disconnected from the church for over a millenia, even though Jesus called them the synagogue of satan in revelations 2:9 and 3:9. To use their manuscripts and not those of the Catholic church would be to say that during the 1600 years or so that protestantism didn't exist (or at least martin luthers version) it was the jews, who deny Jesus' divinity, who preserved the old testament better than the Catholic church who have both faith in Jesus and abundance in resources compared to the jews.

Christian unity

an oversimplification of a flawed perspective from a controlled opposition mind.

kys neo.

The jew created the catholic church at the council of nicea in 325AD. In 328AD the catholic church decided to include to the bible 66 books (one of satans favourite numbers) including the jewish torah which was renamed the old testament.

The jew literally wrote themselves into the catholic bible. Luther was absolutely correct to have them removed along with all the inserted females. None of the Catholic foids you mention appears in the Sola scripture from which all the apostles books are taken.

Your catholic faith is flawed, your adoration for females is contrived, your accusations that protestantism is jewish are the diametric opposite of reality. Your attempts to character smear Luther have no power here; they just read as tittle tat.

The Catholic church is the seat of the fallen one and his minions. Pomp, ceremonies, temples, idols, gold; Catholics do not know God and he does not know them. When catholics die, they go back to their father in hell.