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Will never take it. Vaccine "science" has always been a scam and this new mRNA crap with 0% of the actual virus in it is part of a plan made long ago to permanently change people through sorcery (pharmakeia) and the covid "vaccine" either is the mark of the beast or is paving the way for the mark of the beast. Regardless, i will NEVER accept it and will fight as hard as necessary to refuse it, even if it costs my physical life.

Most people worship the government to the point of blindly opening their veins to it because of their love for evil which motivates their desire to believe in darwinistic "evolution" and the idea that guys in white lab coats tampering with the code of life will "improve" them and accelerate "evolution", but those in power know damn well that the opposite will happen, but they get gold for the bodies, minds and souls they corrupt with their allopathic filth, so they laugh at all the willfully ignorant heathen risking their lives and souls just to go all-in on their atheistic or new age philosophical gambles which are solely motivated by their love their sin and wish to disbelieve in the accountability and rules which Jesus ALMIGHTY taught us for our own good.

I took it, because I still live with my parents and I am 20, I did pray to God to remove any effects that are harmful though.

>>854841

But that is like praying that the bullet will bounce off before you shoot yourself in the foot.

Where is your faith?

>>854843

But that is like praying that the bullet will bounce off before you shoot yourself in the foot.

Except that would be testing God completely different given the position that I am in.

>Where is your faith

I do have faith, I even explained to my mother why I don't trust it, if I was on my own I would likely have not taken it at all.

I already did five months ago. I bought into the "if you take the vaccine, your rights will be restored" lie peddled by the CDC, but obviously here we are approaching mid-2021 with no end in sight. I knew I made a huge mistake when they claimed you can still spread it after being vaccinated and need booster shots periodically, meaning there's no logical reason why I (early 20s with a strong immune system) would even want the stupid thing for any reason other than not having to wear a worthless two-ply face diaper at work every day. I've never had a need for vaccines in my life and the CDC has led me to question them at this point, so I'm not taking anything further. This whole bug has been based in hysteria, not science.

>>854841

Same

>>854789

yeah. i live with my elderly parents also take it cuz my work provides it for me.

I'm not touching thsi with a 10 meters pole being held by another person. Everything about this pandemic has been completely insane.

I have barely any knowledge about what is really happening, but it's too strange. The world stopped because of a virus, but more and the rich are getting richer, while the poorer are getting poorer. The US politicians have already show that they'll sue this ti push their agenda, and God only knows what other countries will do. Terror and exaggerated news are everywhere, tied with Fake news, conspiracies and just plain insanity.

>>854826

let the nature build immunity - in natural way like nature is doing for thousand of years

when u fitness u gain muscles and gets stronger and adaptable to ur environment

when u takes steroids u gain muscles which are not truly strong and u must change the type each year in order to maintain the look

>>854881

the same is with vaccination

Here are a GREAT article on whether we should take it or not.

https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2021/04/09/whether-there-is-a-moral-obligation-to-be-vaccinated/

>>854789

Not going to take it. I don't trust the US government not to screw it up and also I've already had COVID and it didn't kill me.

Not taking the vaccine makes you either an idiot or an a$$hole.

>>854789

There is only one way for christians to be healed from diseases.

> Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Christians do not rely on the physicians of egypt for healing. We do not take drugs/witchcraft to be healed. We go to the Lord himself.

>>854973

I read somewhere in the OT that people should go to the doctor and pray. Both.

Miracles are there to materially show what was done to the soul, as the paralytic man story shows, the physical healings in themselves matter little.

As to covid i dont really buy it as a serious thing.

>>854974

Indeed, sir. I do not buy it as real either.

I do not know what you are referring to concerning OT. All I can say is that we can read about Asa, king of Judah how he was diseased in his feet. Yet he did not turn to the LORD his God but to physicians.

> And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.

>>854995

Sorry for the language. Cleaner rundown on the science in case that one needs to be deleted:

>/pol/ was initially right that the virus would be bad but fell into contrarianism when the rest of the world caught on

>virus is real and damages lung tissue

>mutated variants will get worse

>we needed a month of actual hard lockdown in the beginning to get it under control while everyone was still willing

>Event 201 and the like were dry runs not because they were planning it, but because they were legitimately afraid of another SARS

>medical authorities lost their credibility with half the country by not criticizing the actions of the other half

>media and government lost credibility by gaslighting half the country

<they're likely telling the truth about this but cried wolf

>use N95 mask, KN95 mask, or thick cotton T-shirt to protect yourself

>vaccines are safe, effective, and necessary

>may have long-term side-effects but worth the risk

>legitimate concerns won't be listened to because of demonstrably false claims being circulated

>Novavax has best fundamentals but won't be approved in America soon because political reasons; Moderna is the safest bet

>society will treat you significantly worse for being unvaccinated

There's the scientific and political rundown. For anything related to the morality of taking these treatments, I defer to people who know what they're talking about.

>>854872

Indeed. Well put, anon.

>>854974

>I read somewhere in the OT that people should go to the doctor and pray. Both.

Definitely pray. Take the treatments you believe will help and always remember, that we never spend enough time in prayer.

When it's your time, God is in control and is more wise than anyone else for knowing what needs to happen. And we know that the Lord likes to keep His word and often times all you need to do is pray, in the name of his Son Jesus to give Him the pretext for addressing the problem. But of course, it's always in His hands, so you don't know what the positive outcome of your praying will necessarily be, but it will be positive.

>>854996

People who believe in the progressive narrative want to think that everything can be overcome by human efforts. When confronted with something like this, they are searching for ways to find certainty in a very unknown world. Masks provide that to them. Even if the implementation is virtually ineffective. It's more a kneejerk reaction thing where doing anything is seen as better than doing nothing. The people in media got caught in this scenario (where facts and objectivity are need) as they recently threw off all inhibition against disseminating partisan and self-serving talking points, and "their own truth" which they think they can get everyone to now believe in and (supposedly according to their worldview) not have any grounds to object to it. The reality is as anon said earlier, there will be more variants and continued vaccinations will likely be rolled out. One will not be enough. And yet the strange thing is that, this is less about science and making reasoned informed decisions, and more about getting everyone on the same page to have unquestioned "faith in the experts" than anything. Its about giving people something, other than God, to believe in, no matter what actually happens. I'm sure that regardless of what happens, the "experts" will crown themselves as having solved the problem if we get to the end of this, so that they can continue living in denial of God.

>>855003

>Its about giving people something, other than God, to believe in, no matter what actually happens. I'm sure that regardless of what happens, the "experts" will crown themselves as having solved the problem if we get to the end of this, so that they can continue living in denial of God.

Unfortunately many people are treating it this way. That said, it may prove wise to heed experts within their fields of expertise, as Romans 13 makes it pretty clear we should obey civil authorities. Perhaps the best way to neutralize this pagan attitude is to treat it strictly scientifically and not to overhype it.

My mum needs to get vaccine for work please pray for her

>>855007

>as Romans 13 makes it pretty clear we should obey civil authorities.

Don't read too much into that. "Civil authorities" chopped off Paul's head, the very man who wrote that. Civil authorities commanded all Christians to worship the Emperor Domitian as "Lord and God" and thousands were tortured and killed for refusing to do so.

That text has nothing to do with bending the knee at any random whim of rulers.