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eaa675 No.851601

So what are your thoughts on postmodernism, you know, the thing that Jordan Peterson constantly criticizes. I've been trying to read more into it to get a better understanding of it but you need to have a good foundation in continental philosophy so it's been challenging. Some Christians have tried to combine postmodernism with Christian theology despite the fact that a lot of it is against religion and yet at the same time it's also kinda against science. I mean that's a generalization and there's much more to it than that and I can't really summarize it well so I'll just put the Wikipedia definition down:

>Postmodernism is generally defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection toward what it describes as the grand narratives and ideologies associated with modernism, often criticizing Enlightenment rationality and focusing on the role of ideology in maintaining political or economic power. Postmodern thinkers frequently describe knowledge claims and value systems as contingent or socially-conditioned, framing them as products of political, historical, or cultural discourses and hierarchies. Common targets of postmodern criticism include universalist ideas of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, science, language, and social progress. Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to self-consciousness, self-referentiality, epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, and irreverence.

>Postmodern critical approaches gained popularity in the 1980s and 1990s, and have been adopted in a variety of academic and theoretical disciplines, including cultural studies, philosophy of science, economics, linguistics, architecture, feminist theory, and literary criticism, as well as art movements in fields such as literature, contemporary art, and music. Postmodernism is often associated with schools of thought such as deconstruction, post-structuralism, and institutional critique, as well as philosophers such as Jean-François Lyotard, Jacques Derrida, and Fredric Jameson.

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f4804a No.851609

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Postmodernists should stop using language because it is a cultural construct, and the fact that they continue to use it anyway shows the inherent flaw with their system and the fact that they aren't living it, so why should anyone else? Are they going to convince us everything is relative while still using language?

No, what's really going on here is social-marxist subversion, and it has been seething around for some time now. This is outlined somewhat fairly well by the defector Yuri Bezmenov in this outline of what is actually going on:

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9deaa8 No.855777

My opinion?

They freaking suck.

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108c32 No.856058

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>>851601

I haven’t heard of it. Must not be much weight to it. Sounds heretical

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89c798 No.856064

>>851601

It's no worse than Modernism at least. In some ways, it's better - for the reason you pointed out: it attacks science. To me, it's funny to watch modernists struggle with it. None of their arguments will ever work on nutcases who believe Math is Racist, and that debate is a White or Patriarchal thing. They're being completely consumed by insanity that they themselves opened the door to. Good riddance.

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a7d511 No.856103

>>851601

> you need to have a good foundation in continental philosophy

No you don't. Postmodernism is gibberish. It's based on the belief that there is no truth other than what the strongest party in a society declares it to be. Postmodernism is not philosophy- it's anti-philosophy and as such, you don't need to read a lot of philosophy, just have a working bulls— detector. Postmodernism in a nutshell is this- the postmodernist declaring that there is no truth. . other than their utterances.

The Christian view of postmodernism is that it is secular satanism. "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free". Secular satanists hate God, Man (because man is in God's image) and truth (because you can't assert the existence of God if there is no truth).postmodernism is just deception. The original term for it was "sophistry".. It's lying to manipulate mankind.

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