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>>854819

>>854942

A definition would be a good place to start.

Are you referring to the conventional definition of evolution as given by Webster here? Or are you making a reference to one of the modern definitions, and if so, which exact meaning of evolution are we supposed to go by here. If we don't get a definition, are we just supposed to agree with everything the mainstream say on this subject or else?

>>854944

The idea that all living things, man included, came from one common physical ancestor, and that this first life form spontaneously generated, and that all energy and matter generated with no cause at some point, is not only incompatible with everything we know Biblically, such as that Christ is risen. It is also something only obtainable by reverse logic, starting from the irrational assumption that God must not exist due to the rejection by the person in question who wishes subjectively to forget about God, using all the usual rationalizations in order to square the data with that preconceived metaphysical worldview. That has over time become a sort of mainstream groupthink in modern times, highly dangerous for its tendency to avoid facing realities. People instead are trained by the media to talk about things which they have no hope of grasping as if it were all very matter of fact and proven - "Settled science" as it were. But in reality it is just a cult that promotes hedonism. It doesn't know the first thing about what it is talking about. And has nothing to do with, nay, is the opposite of science. It rather seeks to explain truth (such as biological realities - see LGBT movement) away, and make all things to fit inside of a preconceived metaphysical that subjectively they feel is more suited for them. A "safe space," if you will. The conclusion of "no God" comes first, and modern evolution is only a tool devised to get to that end. Only by reverse logic do they then work their way back to their theories (no matter what they are), predicated on said morally incorrect, unbiblical values.

Romans 1:20 says, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

>>854945

It is intellectual dishonesty in extreme to suggest, that a majority (or even the illusion of a majority) belief is somehow "indisputable." Those who are responsible to find out the truth are not afraid to unapologetically represent the facts for the cause of benefiting others, even if the truth happens to be unpopular or upset peoples sensibilities.

I used to be an evolution zealot like this idiot >>854945, then I read one of S. Meyer's book and found out neo-darwinism is absolute bullcrap. I read that book because I'm going to be giving a small talk on the subject for a group of young catholics, so if you have any questions I'll be happy to try to give some answers.

>>854935

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/is-human-consciousness-creating-reality

This relates to the video I linked.

>>854819

1/2

The topic of evolution is too big of a topic to get down in one sitting, as it covers an enormous amount of subject matter.

God is the God of Evolution, but God did not use Evolution in the Light of His Creation. It's like Angels and Demons. Yes, Angels such as Lucifer and his demons fell, but this is not good, this is called evil. Which is why we call it Evilution. We don't believe in evolution for the same reason we don't place the mark of the beast on our foreheads or on our right hands, which is the name or number of the beast, the antichrist. The one who destroyeth the temple of God. The one who placeth knowledge as a sin to forsake the other half of our heart. Faith comes first, and then the waiting, on God to send to us the knowing. For the wrong knowing not from God could cause us to fall. As many in here admit already saying they almost left the faith, to embrace the cold and the darkness of twilight of godlessness.

The beast is of the false god of Ham. Ham is Egypt. Ham is Africa. Ham is written on the front gate of the pyramids. So is Joseph's stuff, but Ham was there first. Ham is a mutant. Ham is rings. Ham is rock. Ham is Hammers. Ham is weight, pressure, and sensuality. God circumcised His people from Ham quite physically because after Four-Hundred years in Egyptian slavery, things had begun to infect their DNA, aka evolutionary change, in the penis of the men due to what the Egyptians had been doing and the way that they had been living. I've heard it tell me that we should not focus on circumcision of the penis, because of how gross that is. Well let me tell you, that God circumcised it and there is nothing you can do or say of God that He is unclean for focusing on that part of the male's bodypart. Therefore you accuse God's children because like Jesus Christ said, his servant is lesser than the message sender, so that the world would persecute the servant also like they already persecuted the message sender, the master.

Therefore what we see is spiritual, can become manifest in the physical through reproduction. Evolution seeks to place itself as a scientific theory in placement of what is Spiritual knowledge of God, and also seeks to focus on what falleth, instead of what riseth. See the image of the OP? Why then is there no Future? Only a past, and this past is also a lie, by the bye. It should not be near to our religion as a trespass, for it has nothing to do with our belief. What we believe goes, and the smallest child gets the favor, not the maturest scribe, who is going to burn for eternal damnation if he does not get underneath the child's belief. That is a truth.

God is the I AM. I AM means no beginning and no end.

God is the Alpha and the Omega. Alpha means the beginning and Omega means the ending. The Creation was the beginning. The Destruction is the ending which is in Revelation which we have yet to bear witness over which will "burn the elements themselves with fire." The earth torched in a renewing flame. Flesh will only survive through resurrection and translation from the Light of God itself to be placed back into a pristine new Earth and new Heaven. No other flesh will survive. Just like the flood, but by fire.

Japheth is a Viking, a Nord, of the bear, the white prince of Gog and Magog, uses the Axe, like honey. He is oldest. Was neutrally cursed to have to dwell in Shem's tent.

Shem is a Ninja, a Far-Easterner, of the Dragon Serpent, uses piercing weapons and blades, like essential oils and cherry blossoms. He is most blessed by God. Shem is like a Protoss from Starcraft.

>Genesis 9:25-27 kjv [25And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. 26And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. 27God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.]

>>856061

2/2

Like for chapped lips, if honey isn't working, then try chapstick or essential oils, and if those aren't working, then try clipons from Ham. In fact clipons should come first, just like God showed the Jews the land of Egypt first since it was closer. If God had chosen to send Abram to China first, or to the North first into where Russia is, then it would have been no different a story than what happened in Egypt, by it being a story where God's people are spit out in Exodus, because the God of Ham, Japheth, and Shem would have been found with sin in some way, and they would need a spot in the middle in which to worship the true God and put God completely back together again as whole.

God is never about race, you can know it is being done wrong anytime God is being used to say it is about racial things. Just like God turned Miriam's skin pale white for complaining about Moses' wife being black skinned, and she was cursed to sit outside of the camp for seven days naked in the sunlight to cure her illness of her skin before they continued on.

The enemy of God is disobedience to God. Child sacrifice is a sin, because it is the death of the reproductive cycle. This goes for sexual perversions. Even marriage can have sexual sins, but most of it God looks the other way from because marriage is a sin of worldliness that God allows most above all else.

The Animal does not have judgement. So the beast attempts to become an animal, but can't because he is human and has a soul. So he attempts to find the middle place between both worlds. He finds it "but is not satisfied."

Even among Goats, the herd is called a tribe or a trip, the tribe is fighting their own sexual instincts to breed because they know if they aren't careful about it, with the timing of it, their numbers, which females to breed with, a whole host of other factors, could be a mistake and cause their trip to be unsuccessful in some way. The Alpha Billy knows his time will come if he cannot stay strong forever, and if he has any male kids that are not sent somewhere else, then those will fight for male dominance, assuredly, for goats are just sheep, but with sharpened horns and hooves. Even the females try to stab with their pointed parted toes. Sheep were once goats. That is called spiritual power.

A man's heart will already know, if he is saved, that if he needs some spiritual horns of his own, since he will know how wimpy he has become in comparison to his ancestors. Like not even a sheep, but more like a naked albino sheep with nothing useful. Jesus wouldn't make a worm out of man, but the devil surely would. Hence that is how we know how to look for Jesus' horns and how they differ from the false prophet's horns.

The future of man's body is therefore the spiritual battleground. We believe we will receive the same body as Jesus Christ has, and that is about maintaining a clean body, one like unto the Heavenly Father's body, being easily resurrected and translated back from the grave, not something easily lost or impossibly reconstructed and well lived in and taken care of while we embody it. Like how you see all these movie actors get old and lose all that they had. The body is meant to be Eternally lived in. If you time-out in the first thirty seconds in the wrestling ring, then it wasn't begun in conservative spirit, but in a spirit which was looking for constructing the body with too many resources and run out too easily. Where a thousand years is as a day to God. Therefore we see three futures of Man. Giant Robots, assimilation of the human soul with machine, and a return to Giants, even with character customization, where people can create their own body within a computer first, and have it okayed by the throne of Jesus Christ first.

Evolution is just a fact, all the evidence points to evolution being a fact. Specially genetic evidence, since ERV alone prove common ancestry. ERV, and the anomalous number of telomeres and centromeres present in the human genome number 2 are my favorite pieces of genetic evidence for evolution, but there are many other in genetics, and in all branches of biology. Ring species have been evidence of evolution for about a century, but now we can go deeped and analyze the genome of ring species and beautifuly confirm the observations.

Evolution is just a fact.

And if a fact can challenge your faith, your faith isn't worth much.

Most Christians world-wide accept evolution as a fact, so why is this even an issue? OP may as well ask if people here believe in the globe model of the Earth.

>Science wise, it really would be difficult to test given the length of time involved

ERV, ring species, genetic analysis of ring species, direct observation of genetic changes in populations that are moved to new environments, or that have conditions changed in their current environments.

What do you mean it would be "difficult to test given the length of time involved"?