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Amen. I might be wrong but I believe it was a german scientist who attempted to categorize people into so called races. He argued that the “caucasian” is the most “superior” followed by another which I cannot remember…

>>854676

>There is no such thing as "different" races" in this world

What we call races are actually different breeding groups where specific traits are allowed to predominate due to selective pressure and isolation. Geneticists actually call these 'genetic clusters', with there being several distinct clusters existing today, and probably even more that went extinct in the past.

While it would do us no good to ignore the biological reality, I do not think these differences are as spiritually significant as others have made out. Even if, for instance, subsaharan Africans are innately less intelligent than other races, that doesn't mean they can't be saved, any more than a white man with an intellectual disability can't be saved.

I am very curious about the race of Jesus Christ and other important biblical figures. I know Jesus was supposed to be 'beyond race' but to take on human form he would have had to take on human traits like race and nationality. Was he really a Jew like zionists and boomercons claim? Was he a white Aryan or a black Kang? More importantly, how would Jesus's race impact who would and wouldn't be saved?

>>854679

Do you believe in evolution?

>>854678

It goes back a more than that. Look up Moses Hess as an earlier example.

Basically, the proto-belief in "progressivism," which is really just "humanism," which is really just "talmudism," has led people often inadvertently and unwittingly into what can be called "supremacist" beliefs. They really believe and teach that since the discovery of DNA and genetics, that these really are meant to explain everything, under the paradigm of naturalistic materialism with a conscious rejection of any spiritual reality. This we will find is to their own detriment in the end. Their own beliefs are then projected onto anyone who is perceived as opposing the current progressive program, because this is the only way in which they know how to think. People are told that all is a zero sum game and consistently taught through television programs and other media to assume the worst about everyone. Fear and other negative emotions are channeled. This too, again, is all projected onto anyone who tries to disagree with their worldviews. The most convincing charlatans become leaders of the Democratic party, and/or other "experts" that are frequently consulted on tv for their worthless opinions couched in pseudoscientific language, and condensed into bite-sized talking points. They quickly move from one professed belief to another, pathologically lying and frequently contradicting their past selves in their statements seemingly without pause, all in service to their momentary and self-centered ends. They are also masters at backstabbing each other and anyone else when the opportunity affords. Fortunately, the LORD will bring their own devices upon them and will protect His own from unintended harm: which is the only thing that they have not calculated for and is keeping them in check.

>>854685

That image is evolutionary nonsense

>>854685

The Lord rebuke you, o twisted and depraved man.

>>854688

I disagree with evolution, but the discrepancy in genes is a fact nonetheless.

>>854702

And? Obvioulsy preople will have different genes. Asians and whites don't have the same genes

>>854703

Sloppy argument but "christian identity" is indeed heresy

Kinism is the biblical view of race and Moses' wife was not black.

>>854721

You verily seem to be confused by the witchcraft of theology. Please seek God in his word (KJV in english) and he will reveal the truth of his word to you. You will see the folly of theology so that you might repent from it.

>>854680

What's wrong with believing in evolution?

>>854726

It is contrary to the word of God and therefore a lie baked in the pits of hell.

>>854726

Adam lived 930 years. That alone is contrary to evolution.Anyteaching that goes against the Bible is wrong and should be discredited.

>>854703

>Racism is cringe

It is, because of >>854683

Your pic however is not really a valid argument, for the simple reason that Biblical Ethiopia is not equal to the borders of the modern country (why would even you think it was?), it included a much wider area including southern Arabia such as Yemen. There were even Biblical Jews living there according to Acts, as we find that the Ethiopian eunuch who was travelling back to his home country was one of them. In Acts 2:5, it is mentioned that there were at that time many Jews out of "every nation" gathered to Jerusalem. The eunuch is converted by Philip and baptized in Acts 8:27-38. In Acts 8:27, it says of the eunuch that he "had come to Jerusalem for to worship." This is because he was one of the Jews out of the nation to the south (ancient "Ethiopia") located in modern-day Yemen.

We know he could not be a Biblical Gentile as well because we see that Peter was the first one to open the gospel to the gentiles, as Peter explicitly mentions in Acts 15:7 that the first time the gentiles heard the word of the gospel was when he preached to them, and this refers back to Acts 10:45, which is chronologically after Acts 8. Hence, the Ethiopian eunuch who converted in Acts 8 could not have been a gentile, as they were first converted according to Peter in Acts 10:45.

Furthermore, we see in the Old Testament that the queen of Sheba came from the same place. Sheba is equal to the "Sabean" kingdom. Sabeans are also mentioned under that spelling, several times in the KJV, and they are clearly located in the same region. But we know that the ancient Sabean kingdom existed in modern-day Yemen, not modern-day Ethiopia. Hence, the wife that Moses took came from that land in Arabia, which is connected by the Red Sea to Egypt, rather than the horn of Africa. Furthermore, although this is not related to the rest of the argument, in ancient times the population groups living in the horn of Africa itself were different than they are today.

Jeremiah 13:23 does not actually say what color the skin of the Ethiopian or Cus—e was. However, even if it did say it was black, that would not affect the above, because if you look in Song of Solomon 1:6, it says clearly that "black skin" as they called it, resulted from being exposed to the sun. In other words, heavily tanned skin (as would result from living in Yemen, which is incredibly sunny) was "black" to them. It was a condition obtainable by being out in the sun too much.

At the end of the day, trying to use Numbers 12 to argue this really is a square peg in a round hole. There are plenty of better references to use than this.

I say all this further because if you do not want to support inbreeding, there is another phenomenon in genetics called "outbreeding" that few outside of the scientific community are aware or talk about. It results in similar genetic problems over multi-generations. Starting with the first generation, the children of outbreeding will not be able to receive bone marrow transplants and other things because of the genetic differences in their parents.

Ex:

LTA4H, or gleukotriene A4 hydrolaseh is found on chromosome 17. An allele of this gene increases the risk of heart attack (the #1 cause of death in America) in Blacks by more than 250%, but only 16% in Whites. The 30% of Whites with this allele have counteracting genes, while the 6% of Black Americans who obtained it (through outbreeding) do not.

https://archive.is/RtzDl

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16282974

"Compared to organ transplants, bone marrow donations need to be even more genetically similar to their recipients. Since all the immune system's cells come from bone marrow, a transplant essentially introduces a new immune system to a person. Without genetic similarity between the donor and the patient, the new white blood cells will attack the host body."

https://archive.is/l1Qpe

http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html

There are several genetic mechanisms which may cause outbreeding depression:

–Two identical alleles at the same locus can in some cases be the alternative with the highest fitness ("homozygote advantage"/"underdominance"). This is the opposite of the effect which for other loci causes inbreeding depression.

–Disruption of beneficial, synergistic interactions between loci ("coadapted gene complexes"). This is a more important cause of outbreeding depression than homozygote advantage. This effect is partly insidious since it will likely increase in strength over future generations as new genetic recombinations in each new generation break increasing numbers of such beneficial interactions.

https://archive.is/iZ5nS

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1523-1739.2003.02026.x/abstract

Even if race is only skin deep, race is still without a shadow of a doubt real. But it isn't one's race that determines one's worth, it is one's piety that determines worth. Racial puritanism is pointless and non-Christian but race denial is just as bad because it demonizes and denies a beautiful aspect of God's creation which is diversity. Don't fall for the 'race isn't real' mind trap or you'll be falling for all the 'gender isn't real' nonsense too.

>>854676

winnie the pooh off tigger kike

>>854676

Genetics and anthropology both let us know that you are wrong.

Your skeleton alone tells us your race.

I'm not making the argument for superior/inferior merely noting that some are racially different from others.

This is God's work and we ought not deny it.

>There is only one race and that is the human race.

This guy probably got this bit of marxism from a Christian textbook. I have relatives in Christian school and I looked through one of their biology textbooks and that sentence is what began the chapter on human beings.

It's a lie, of course, but all the main denominations are on board with that heresy and crippling the next generation with that dogma.

>“And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;”- Acts 17:26

"Nations" was the original term for "race". So this brainwashed dude quotes the bible showing that God intentionally created many different nations and gave them each their own lands, but he is trying to argue those nations don't exist.

>>854679

>Even if, for instance, subsaharan Africans are innately less intelligent than other races, that doesn't mean they can't be saved, any more than a white man with an intellectual disability can't be saved.

people of every race can be saved. However, people of different races can't live together without conflict and instability. Black Christians should live in black nations and White Christians should have white nations.

I love the autists, I love the blacks. I love everybody deep down. I love the human body and sex. I want to grab and hug a woman and kiss their neck like an autist, or jump into the arms of a black man with my legs around him. Love starvation is a real thing

>“Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power; for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are, and were created.”