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663ffb No.856869

How do you categorize the importance of the book of Enoch? It was very influential in early Christian believers and it was seen as scripture in the the early Ethiopian Church… perhaps we should see it as scripture as well.

I would like to learn more about the book of Enoch and some links to learn about the history of it would be amazing. I see how aggressive Rabbinic Jews attack it and call it heretical but I do not care for that. Enoch is mentioned in Genesis and even in Islam hadiths… "(Mary 19:56–57): "And remember Idris in the Book; he was indeed very truthful, a Prophet. And We lifted him to a lofty station". this seems reminiscent of Genesis quote on Enoch..

Genesis 5: 23-24 "23 Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years. 24 Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away."

My final question to you is how legitmate is the book of Enoch and should it hold the same standard as the other biblical books.

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63e213 No.856872

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>>856869

>How do you categorize the importance of the book of Enoch?

It is an apocryphal book that was likely written in late antiquity or thereabouts. It probably has multiple versions floating around, some or all of them being modified later. As far as the general content of the book goes, it contradicts numerous parts of the Bible, insomuch that both cannot be true at the same time. Its influence was primarily on gnostic sects in the early church era, so not strictly Christians, but merely offshoot sects that borrowed some ideas from Christianity. But scholarship today would have trouble distinguishing the two, and this is perhaps intentional. For this reason you might see nonchristian modern scholarship classing it as a "Christian influence," because those modern scholars are generally against the gospel and this is another way for modern scholars to cause confusion and just to generally confuse people about it who might not know any better.

>It was very influential in early Christian believers

The gnostic sect of the Manichaeans (founded around 240 AD) originally had a book called the "book of Giants," which was based on this, and this second book also had an influence on the Babylonian Talmud, which was written in the early middle ages (finished around 499 AD) and formed the basis of what we know as Judaism.

However, despite the above, the book did not have a proper or formal influence on the church of Jesus Christ. The doctrine of the church was determined by the Bible, which is inspired and God's word according to them, and contrarily not by any apocryphal works which are not considered inspired by God.

>Enoch is mentioned in Genesis

This is true, but if some random person wrote a book claiming to be from Enoch, how much should anyone be so easy to believe it? Many writings claim a false origin.

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1ff198 No.856967

>>856869

>How do you categorize the importance of the book of Enoch? It was very influential in early Christian believers and it was seen as scripture in the the early Ethiopian Church… perhaps we should see it as scripture as well.

I do

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1ff198 No.856968

>>856872

>The gnostic sect of the Manichaeans (founded around 240 AD) originally had a book called the "book of Giants,"

and the fragments we have are interesting. The book of Enoch said the fallen angels sinned with animals and the book of Giants clarifies that saying the fallen angels interbred with different species of animals.

>However, despite the above, the book did not have a proper or formal influence on the church of Jesus Christ. The doctrine of the church was determined by the Bible, which is inspired and God's word according to them, and contrarily not by any apocryphal works which are not considered inspired by God.

The book of Enoch was also quoted by James. It was clear that the book of Enoch was a religious text that early Jews and Christians (including Jesus) considered to be scripture. Why would a decree by an ecclesiastical council hundreds of years later have priority over the beliefs that Jesus and the apostles all had?

The book of Enoch was written for our time period and it says that right at the beginning. it was gone from the early catholic church until the 17th century before being rediscovered in an ethiopian jew community

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