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File: 4b89bf2425422a4⋯.jpg (24.92 KB,480x360,4:3,communism.jpg)

bf5ddd No.854887 [Open thread]

It is clear to me that Christianity is (small c) communistic. Even the language in Das Kapital seems to be stripped from the Bible. I think Christians have been wearied about communism because of the secular corruptions of it. Its clear in studying the antenicene church that they held all things in common just as the Church in acts did; The Church at its best is communist with the only central planner who can be trusted: God who communicates by way of his Spirit and the word. Meanwhile what I think about capitalism is like what Winston Churchill said of democracy: "its the worst system we have except for all the others". Capitalism. is something invented to control the natural man. It is a system of every man and his interests for himself and, even by the very admission of Milton Friedman and other such advocates of the free market, the aggregate effect is there are checks and balances on consolidation of power. But we as. Christians don't need to worry about such checks and balances because we've submitted to the ultimate source of truth, Christ. All this is not to say we should support communist governments. Even a Christian communist government would violate the doctrine of the Two Kingdoms (the antenicene doctrine that the church should never become a political entity CATHOLICS!!!). The whole point of this post is to alert you to the danger of mingling Christianity with capitalism. Keep in mind the proving ground for capitalism was the freemasonic American revolution. In fact there is almost certainly a direct line to be drawn between the "invisible hand" of Adam Smith and the luciferian "hidden hand" of freemasonry and the only question is how mystical the connection is. Capitalism has led to social ills of every sort and it is now even helping to promote the seemingly opposed agenda of cultural Marxism. All and all there is little difference between secular communism and 'christian' capitalism. They are both satanic corruptions of the truth.

I see an ongoing theme in the world thanks to listening to ex-satanist John Ramirez, the fact that the devil makes counterfeits. Through Bethel and Hillsong and the Word of Faith movement, he has created a satanic corruption of the true Spirit-filled church. Part of this corruption is an essentially capitalist message, God will favor your pursuit of wealth and another man's poverty is his own lack of faith in 'god's' 'invisPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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d06d09 No.855517

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>>855516

>>855515

Yeah anon, you're probably right. We aren't gonna get a denial or affirmation here. Only more deflection. I suppose more than enough of a chance has been given to this matter if the other anon had wanted to provide a real answer here in this friendly, relaxed format he certainly could've.

>>855499

>You have not submitted to Christ

Anon, the Lord Jesus is Christ, not you or your leaders. He is the head of the church, not your leaders. He is God, not you or your leaders or yourselves collectively. The thing you talk about, the church that Christ founded, I'm in it. I am in that church. Everyone who has been saved is a son of God, and those that follow his ordinance are part of the church today by valid administration of the ordinance of baptism. That is why Paul says "One Lord, one faith, one baptism." So that's the amount of everything we have to say here, other anon.

God bless every reader and may your eyes be opened, as the Lord says in Scripture: "he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

To preach the acceptable year of the Lord."

AMEN

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ed84d0 No.855537

>>855517

You are lost.

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f7e2e6 No.855555

>>854891

>kike

very cute /pol/yp

>The church in acts shared with one another voluntarily

problems of poverty are never solved by a voluntary sharing of resources in christian nations, that says a lot about christianity

>Free market economics is the only system not predicated on force, therefore the only biblically compatible system

the system that sucks at solving the problem of poverty, lolbert much?

>>854905

>Government activity is essential during times of war but the government regulations put in place to stop the current pandemic are pointless and achieve nothing good

what do you mean by that?

>The moment The Church relinquished its political power, Europe began its decent into secularism.

and the age of unprecendented peace and prosperity commenced

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4cee2d No.855635

>>855555

digit thief faggot gtfo

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bad56b No.855647

>>855555

>problems of poverty are never solved by a voluntary sharing of resources in christian nations, that says a lot about christianity

Problems of poverty are never solved, period. There will always be poor people but their problems can be eased with charity.

>>Government activity is essential during times of war but the government regulations put in place to stop the current pandemic are pointless and achieve nothing good

>what do you mean by that?

I mean that government intervention is sometimes necessary but more often it is not.

>>The moment The Church relinquished its political power, Europe began its decent into secularism.

>and the age of unprecendented peace and prosperity commenced

When did that ever happen? Europe is more secular now than ever before and everything is terrible.

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da9e46 No.853852 [Open thread]

I know there's a thread for this, but I'm the most desperate I've ever been. I need prayers. Rosary's. Divine mercies. Cries up to God for mercy. Anything.

I'm stuck in a cycle of lust that is now out of my control. I cannot escape it. I feel it rotting my soul. Quickly delving into the worst depravities I can think of short of illegal material.

I'm pleading for help. I can't take this anymore. I am withering away. Please pray for me. Please ask God for mercy. I need divine intervention. Not advice. Not pro tips. I need the hand of God or I will die in my sins.

God bless

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23d6ea No.855348

>>855328

I'm not a baseline for morality but I think that as long as they aren't extremely perverted it's fine.

>>855330

From what I know, masturbation shouldnt be a lifetime process but more of an (sadly) activity bound to growing up. It is meant to be very sporadic both during puberty and among lone men. I 100% agree with what Church (both Orthodox and Catholic at this point) thinks of onanism and it is one of those things that you are meant to erase by entering marriage, as God intended it be. In the end, humans are very imperfect beings and I think that masturbations is one of the consequences of Adam and Eve's sin.

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23d6ea No.855349

>>855331

Actually checked that and you are right.

The more you know, thanks

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70936e No.855351

>>855348

I posted about this in the other thread but t bears repeating here.

I have sexual fantasies about women fainting in front of me and getting to carry their semiconscious bodies in different positions. I try not to masturbate, but when I do it's usually to one of these fantasies. I don't have a porn collection, but I do have a folder of pictures of women lying down in sexy ways. They're more like pin-ups than anything else.

I'm not sure how I would translate this to marriage, I would probably have my wife dress in corsets or period dresses and pretend to faint to show she's excited.

I'm not sure how 'perverted' that is by your standards, or if it would be sinful to act out this fantasy in private within marriage.

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cf2d7e No.855638

>>853867

>I'll pray for you, anon. I'm also going to recommend a resource that I mentioned in another thread recently - a book called EasyPeasy.

Based. The EasyPeasy method helped me so much.

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fd2509 No.855640

https://youtu.be/eMA0rX_5sOg

This video helped me quit sexual sin. He just has some good reasonable advice.

What I personally have to say about it is that it's a constant battle. You need to remain diligent every day, avoid all things that will tempt you, and remain in constant prayer. Don't bring your phone into the bathroom, avert your eyes from girls in skimpy clothing, etc.

When I think I may be tempted by something I'm about to do, I pray for Christ to lead me not into temptation but to deliver me from evil that I may not be tempted, and to fill me with the Holy Spirit, and bless me with the self control of the Holy Spirit, that I may walk in the Spirit, and honor Him in all that I do.

For me personally, reading Galatians 5 and coming to understand the importance of "walking in the Spirit" is what really convicted my heart to want to stop sexual sin, and by God's Grace, through prayer, I've been blessed with the self control of the Holy Spirit, and I've been able to stop commiting this horrible sin.

Don't get confused though. Walking in the spirit is not the cause of your salvation, but a by-product of salvation. Salvation is a gift from God that you recieve solely through faith in Christ Jesus if he has chosen you to believe.

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7c79e9 No.855569 [Open thread]

Everything I've read about this seems to be kind of a mixed bag, especially among the Church Fathers, some of which seem to advocate for it (Origen, Greggory of Nyssa, Isaac the Syrian, and possibly even Ambrose of Milan and Maximus the Confessor) while others rejected it (John Chrysostom). Even today though a lot of prominent Catholic thinkers seem to advocate for a form of "possible" universal salvation (except for the demons) without definitely affirming it while surprisingly some Orthodox theologians seem to be a little more open about it with some even claiming that the Orthodox don't really have a concept of eternal hell but rather their concept of hell is closer to the Catholic idea of purgatory or the Jewish idea of gehenna (but again, an exception is generally made for the demons who are thought to be sent to eternal torment). Many advocates of this position generally argue that verses about the eternal nature of hell are conditional except possibly for Satan and the demons and there is also a lot of discussion on whether it is even correct to translate the Greek word aionios often times means "age" rather than "eternal" depending on context. Now I do realize there is the Fifth Ecumenical Council's condemnation of Origen's teaching regarding apocatastasis however it seems that this is far more complicated than it would seem on the surface which is why Orthodox (and Catholic) theologians to this day still debate over whether or not this council truly condemns the doctrine of Universal Reconciliation or not but I cannot possibly summarize all of it so I'll just post this: https://shamelessorthodoxy.com/2021/01/21/orthodoxy-universal-salvation-are-the-two-compatible/

So ultimately the question still seems open. Thoughts?

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6ef864 No.855571

>>855569

Its interesting, but its pointless from a practical point of view because people who are 'babes in christ' will just use it as an excuse to sin so there is a certain wisdom in keeping it a mystery.

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65ab9f No.855595

Why would some creatures who reject God (demons) be eternally condemned but humans not?

Like the demons, some people are obstinate in their sin and in wanting to be away from God.

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337f3a No.855613

>>855569

Origen is a heretic

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011388 No.855625

>>855569

Christianity was heresy up until Martin Luther was born and developed the 5 solae. The only two ways to go to Hell is to reject God's existence and to reject Jesus' gospel. If you've never done either, then you're going to Heaven.

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23f4be No.855457 [Open thread]

Happy Mother's Day

John 19:26-27

<When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing beside her, he said to his mother, “Woman, here is your son.”

<Then he said to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” And from that hour the disciple took her into his own home.

On this Mother’s Day, let us thank God for our mothers and those who have played the role of mother in our lives. May all mothers know God’s deep and abiding love for them. May Mary, our Mother, be a model and inspiration for us.

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e906f7 No.855461

Mother's Day is pagan.

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51352d No.855463

>>855461

According to whom? From what I can tell, it is simply an observance that arose out of the 20th century.

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221f53 No.855478

>>855461

So is the english language and by proxy the KJV.

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8e66bc No.855485

>>855461

St.Justin MArtyr in the second Apology tells us how it is in relation to truths in the Stoics, poets, historians, philosophy etc:

Whatever things were rightly said among all men, are the property of us Christians. For next to God, we worship and love the Word who is from the unbegotten and ineffable God, since also He became man for our sakes, that becoming a partaker of our sufferings, He might also bring us healing. For all the writers were able to see realities darkly through the sowing of the implanted word that was in them. For the seed and imitation impacted according to capacity is one thing, and quite another is the thing itself, of which there is the participation and imitation according to the grace which is from Him.

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f7d016 No.855589

>>855457

Typical Mary worshipping idolatry

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0f9904 No.855538 [Open thread]

Hi frens,

I'm still in my early 20s working an easy job but I am falling behind because I spend all my time looking at memes instead of working. My inability to just work instead of getting distracted by terrible memes is making me depressed. I've had a faint curiosity about about becoming a missionary in Papua New Guinea for a few years now. I'm unable to decide if I have a curiosity or a calling.

I just started praying about it today, but I want to know what you guys think. I'll keep praying about it in the mean time. Am I dreaming of greener grass? Do I just want to let my backlog of work become someone else's problem? Do I just have schizophrenia? Or could PNG be my Ninevah?

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948d80 No.855547

Dude, sort everything out at your work before leaving so as to not sever professional relationships and give yourself a bad name.

Do you think you will be blessed if you don't do what's right? Probably, God is merciful, but do your best to make things right while you still have control over them.

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3a0701 No.855559

>>855538

>Dude, sort everything out at your work before leaving so as to not sever professional relationships and give yourself a bad name.

I think this is a good idea, it'll also give you more time to think and pray about it.

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8c0a34 No.855543 [Open thread]

>KJV Deuteronomy 20:17 - But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee.

winnie the pooh THE ANTI-CHRIST

winnie the pooh THE FREEMASONS

winnie the pooh THE JEWS

winnie the pooh THE NEW WORLD ORDER

winnie the pooh THE PERIZZITES

winnie the pooh THE LUCIFERIANS

winnie the pooh THE SODOMITES

winnie the pooh THE CANAANITES

winnie the pooh THE SEX ADDICTS

winnie the pooh THE BAPHOMET

winnie the pooh THE HUMANISTS

winnie the pooh THE HIVITES

winnie the pooh THE UNITED NATIONS

winnie the pooh THE ATHEISTS

winnie the pooh THE DEMONS

winnie the pooh THE VATICAN

winnie the pooh THE HITTITES

winnie the pooh THE BABYLONIANS

winnie the pooh THE OCCULTISTS

winnie the pooh THE JEBUSITES

winnie the pooh THE FAKE CHRISTIANS

winnie the pooh THE AMORITES

winnie the pooh THE MORAL SUBJECTIVISTS

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7d062d No.855545

This board is garbage.

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793a68 No.855455 [Open thread]

Thoughts on Jung and Jungian psychoanalysis?

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1694e2 No.855531

His Aion book is very difficult. But the parallel that Jung draws between Christ and Buddha is interesting.

Christ too - like the Buddha - is an incarnation of the self, but in a very different sense. Both dominated the world in themselves: the Buddha, it could be said, through a rational understanding; the Christ, becoming a victim according to destiny; in Christianity, the main thing is to suffer, while in Buddhism the most important thing is to contemplate and do. Both are just, but in the Hindu sense the most complete man is the Buddha. He is a historical personality and, therefore, more understandable to man. Christ is, at the same time, a historical man and God, and therefore more difficult to access.

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1694e2 No.855532

His Aion book is very difficult. But the parallel that Jung draws between Christ and Buddha is interesting.

Christ too - like the Buddha - is an incarnation of the self, but in a very different sense. Both dominated the world in themselves: the Buddha, it could be said, through a rational understanding; the Christ, becoming a victim according to destiny; in Christianity, the main thing is to suffer, while in Buddhism the most important thing is to contemplate and do. Both are just, but in the Hindu sense the most complete man is the Buddha. He is a historical personality and, therefore, more understandable to man. Christ is, at the same time, a historical man and God, and therefore more difficult to access.

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1694e2 No.855533

His Aion book is very difficult. But the parallel that Jung draws between Christ and Buddha is interesting.

Christ too - like the Buddha - is an incarnation of the self, but in a very different sense. Both dominated the world in themselves: the Buddha, it could be said, through a rational understanding; the Christ, becoming a victim according to destiny; in Christianity, the main thing is to suffer, while in Buddhism the most important thing is to contemplate and do. Christ is, at the same time, a historical man and God, and therefore more difficult to access.

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1694e2 No.855534

His Aion book is very difficult. But the parallel that Jung draws between Christ and Buddha is interesting.

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323542 No.855540

What about the common connsensus and people believing the same thing can make something happen or something?

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84b04b No.854548 [Open thread]

At some point the old /christian/ at 8chan or 8ch went away to a Discord server. I was in but lost that account. Can anyone help me?

Please.

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2e41dc No.854791

>>854790

(i appologize for the silly email, i just wanted a secure burner)

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48059a No.855391

>>854677

Can you add me too?

thisisalegitemail@tuta.io

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2e58bd No.855525

me too plz

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c8f1ce No.855526

Me too please shufb777@gmail.com

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a81542 No.855539

There is a discord server?

>>854677

I want to join in you still there anon?

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6625d8 No.855529 [Open thread]

God bless, Jesus loves you, follow the Guide, take your cat girl to church every wednesday and sunday

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c4fca2 No.855508 [Open thread]

>be me.

>Put 1¢ in the tithe bowl.

>MFW.

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3679cf No.852046 [Open thread]

Not so much different as Iconoclastic Christians in Constantinople, who entered inside temples and destroyed idols, and killed Eastern-Rite priests, the Protestants served as a divisor tool to put Europe to fight themselves than focus their energies to fight against the Turkish Threat.

Martin Luther was a bait created by the Jews. His plan was simple: convince Germans to follow him, and oppose against the Catholic Church and against the Holy Roman Empire - who were planning to conquer Constantinople. The Protestant Factor aided the Ottomans to conquer Hungary.

Martin Luther criticised Jews in his - but he did nothing to stop Jewish usury. He knew that Jews had so really bad reputation in Germany, so he canalised the hate against Jews and compared the Holy Roman Empire, the Catholic Church and Spaniards with the Jews.

In one critical moment in HISTORY, where the Holy Roman Emperor had control of Unified Spain, southern Italy, Flanders and was going to begin a Crusade against Ottomans with so amazing power… But French and Protestants (Lutherans, Calvinists, Anabaptists, Angloomers) - said "Hey! Let's wreck this up!" - leaded by Crypt-Jews.

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bcefb9 No.854010

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665d93 No.854098

File: cdf648351e97df7⋯.png (232.94 KB,289x516,289:516,ClipboardImage.png)

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2be5b0 No.855504

>>854098

You protestants are cancerous and toxic. You don't believe in tradition, liturgy. You just only believe to worship IsraeI.

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343bbb No.855506

>>852980

> if the Protestants went on any crusades

The protestant reformation started in the 1500s. The last crusade ended by the 1300s.

Bit of a chronology problem there, mate.

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df49b2 No.855507

>>855506

Pretty much this. The only independent and Bible-following churches during that time would have been the baptists.

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6082f4 No.855500 [Open thread]

https://youtu.be/iMyIb-uTQ04

plugging Rick again. Critiquing Eric Mason's "woke" nonsense.

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a13a24 No.855501

A thread died for this. Quit shilling for this guy. Or at least keep it in one thread.

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4ac45a No.855420 [Open thread]

But… how do I know which form of Christianity is right though!? A Baptist will show me one thing in the Bible that proves them, but then a Catholic will show me another thing that contradicts Baptist Christianity and seems to prove them but then an Eastern Orthodox will show me another thing and so and so forth!!!!! Ahhhhh!!! D:

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215e68 No.855489

>>855486

You claim to worship one God yet you turn around and name three gods? Do you not see the folly in your claims, sir? But I digress.

I will answer your question as if you asked it earnestly without any strife, contention, and pride.

The Son of God is called God because God is in him. He is without sin.

A christian who has the Holy Ghost (The only true God, the Father) will not become God for that is error. A christian is not without sin. He was not conceived without sin like the only Begotten Son of God was.

And so, when the Son of God was thirty years old, he went and was baptised in the Jordan river. God his Father anointed his Son with his own Spirit. And from that day forward, God was manifest in the flesh. The Word (Who is God himself as the scripture declares) was made flesh.

Amen.

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641014 No.855493

>>855489

three Gods? you have no idea how the trinity works. According to you, Jesus was born man, but since he has God in him, he is God, but at the same time nah jk he's only man, unless when he is God. The Holy spirt is God too, but let's call him ghost (kids are gonna love it) and btw he is literally God, nothing like a trinity nah nah, but He is separated sometimes.

Do you have ANY early church document that is at least 50% befitting your argument? what you say does not come from bible, does not come from Church, does not come from culture or reason, you should call yourself a pagan because that is what you are, or just declare yourself Islamic, 'cause I (and everyone here) don't see difference

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d81de4 No.855494

>>855493

The Lord rebuke you. Your blood be upon your own head. My hands are clean.

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641014 No.855496

>>855494

rebuke me? so he also rebuked all Church fathers? if what you say is true, at least one of them would acknowledge your ideas, but none of them did that. I truly fell sorry for you, but at least even the modern degenerates don't fallow such travesty of ideas.

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883211 No.855498

>>855489

>You claim to worship one God yet you turn around and name three gods? Do you not see the folly in your claims, sir?

All three of those persons - Father, Son, and Holy Ghost - are one God. This is one of the most basic aspects of the Christian faith - that the one and only God is more than one person. I am quite saddened that whatever church you went to did not introduce this concept to you.

>A christian who has the Holy Ghost (The only true God, the Father) will not become God for that is error. A christian is not without sin. He was not conceived without sin like the only Begotten Son of God was.

Seeing as God washes away the sins of the Christian (Acts 22:16, see also 1 John 3:9), your argument backfires. Are you to suppose that we become God at baptism? I don't think so.

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1c27da No.855476 [Open thread]

Plugging Rick. starts in 35 minutes

https://youtu.be/xNkjQjR-uU8

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a67c94 No.855462 [Open thread]

https://youtu.be/8UZ7z-PjSHE

plugging Rick again.

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b2f509 No.855467

Can you do this in one thread

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