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Israel is not a legitimate state

Judaism is not a legitimate religion

Jews are not a legitimate people

Every single Jew who follows Judaism will burn in Hell.

But you're right, anon.

Matthew 6:24

Man is imperfect. Let god wait for the scales to still

>>854713

All nations are, but at least the US has freedom, and many states and cities still have traditional values

>>856144

>The Pharisees prided themselves as masters of the scriptures. Knowing them to the T, but never actually living by them and coming up with man-made traditions of their own, not the traditions passed down from Moses.

Not exactly true. The pharisees taught that Moses passed down the written law (torah) and the oral traditions (talmud). Jesus was saying that the oral traditions were heretical and evil, that they barred men from God, and had no relation to the torah.

>It wasn't until the Council of Rome when the entire biblical canon was standardized and distributed to the various episcopal sees.

And a great deal of human history magically disappeared from scripture. You ever wonder why the book of Genesis only mentions the giants and the sons of God in passing? It's because the full stories had already been written down in the book of enoch. Both the church and the Jews tried to suppress the book of Enoch but since it was divinely inspired, Enoch's prophecy came to pass

>1.1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, according to which he blessed the chosen and righteous, who must be present on the Day of Distress, which is appointed, for the removal of all the wicked and impious.

Enoch said he wrote the book for those living at the end of the age and the book disappeared until right before the end of the age. Coincdidence? I don't think so.

>>856145

Ok, you're forgetting the baptists though. The independent churches that are free from any denomination continue to exist from the early church era and follow the Bible, which represents the written word of God. I'd say that's better and more in line with what the church was always meant to be than any of the options you mentioned here.

>>856159

What exactly is the relevance of this? Are you saying there is a contradiction somewhere in Scripture? We know who the apostles were. Paul was an apostle, he had a direct encounter with Jesus Christ on the road to Damascus. That means he was one of the original apostles sent to plant churches. Like he said in 1 Corinthians 3,

>10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

>11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

It also says in Ephesians this:

>21 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

>20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Lastly, you yourself even agreed that it was important to know who the apostles were based on what Paul was quoted as writing in 2 Timothy 3:14, where he said: "But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;" So if you accept that emphasis on knowing who the apostles were, you have already implicitly accepted Paul as being one of them because he wrote that passage of Scripture. Hopefully that helps clarify.

>>856144

in >>856093 i said;

< this means that early Christianity didn't have a centralised seat of authority

you respond with;

> This is just blatantly false. The church did have centralized seats of authority… Rome… Antioch and Alexandria

(emphasis my own)

how you went from seeing me employ the singular 'a' and interpreted it in the plural i don't know…

didn't you see me in the very next line speak of the Church Fathers and their missives to one another – and didn't you recognise that as relating to the 'localized authorities'* as you yourself call them, where Bishops of many seats remonstrated with one another as equals ?

this evidences there wasn't A centralised seat of authority ANYWHERE and this state of affairs lasted for several hundred years after the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD

(and even thinking that City was a centralised seat is debatable, since the Apostles were peripatetic in the extreme, just as their Lord was)

moreover, how you think listing several localised seats (plural) is an argument for one singular seat of authority, is beyond me

is this what passes for rational thought in your world and are such self-defeating, internally inconsistent statements really what you imagine sound argumentation to look like ?

or should i think the worst and see it as a deliberate act of obfuscation on your part, demonstrating your vast knowledge by listing some historical sites witPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>856181

>how you went from seeing me employ the singular 'a' and interpreted it in the plural i don't know…

He's probably ESL

>is this what passes for rational thought in your world and are such self-defeating, internally inconsistent statements really what you imagine sound argumentation to look like ?

In reading this post I agree with you. But this is the internet, so the ability to generate outrage and make outrageous statements is one strategy you often see employed. Usually they don't bring it to the anonymous boards though, because it doesn't work without that tribalistic tendency of personality cults that you see elsewhere, so I would consider his style the inherited behavior of a net migrant who accidentally left his containment zone and somehow wound up here not knowing that that's not at all how things work around here.

Likely, he is regurgitating phrases and sentences that have been drummed repeatedly from such social circles. It is likely that many or most of the original thoughts are not his own, they are just things he keeps saying over and over in his head and never bothering to verify if any of it is true. Very indicative of a cult like behavior. When encountering something that contradicts it, he begins to repeat the pre-existing narrative like a broken record. The concept of "persuasion" or demonstrating anything that might work to convince another human being is not a thought that crosses the mind in this state. For instance, he talks about what 1st century churches had as if he was personally there, and speaks with an air of confidence to the level that, without exception, he knows what every single church was doing. There is no room for qualifications or nuances. Either you accept his narrative or else you get to hear the robotic repeating of the inner script a repeated time.

That's what you find a lot of on the internet.

>>856138

If I click on this video will the FBI raid my house?

Postmodernists should stop using language because it is a cultural construct, and the fact that they continue to use it anyway shows the inherent flaw with their system and the fact that they aren't living it, so why should anyone else? Are they going to convince us everything is relative while still using language?

No, what's really going on here is social-marxist subversion, and it has been seething around for some time now. This is outlined somewhat fairly well by the defector Yuri Bezmenov in this outline of what is actually going on:

My opinion?

They freaking suck.

>>851601

It's no worse than Modernism at least. In some ways, it's better - for the reason you pointed out: it attacks science. To me, it's funny to watch modernists struggle with it. None of their arguments will ever work on nutcases who believe Math is Racist, and that debate is a White or Patriarchal thing. They're being completely consumed by insanity that they themselves opened the door to. Good riddance.

>>851601

> you need to have a good foundation in continental philosophy

No you don't. Postmodernism is gibberish. It's based on the belief that there is no truth other than what the strongest party in a society declares it to be. Postmodernism is not philosophy- it's anti-philosophy and as such, you don't need to read a lot of philosophy, just have a working bulls— detector. Postmodernism in a nutshell is this- the postmodernist declaring that there is no truth. . other than their utterances.

The Christian view of postmodernism is that it is secular satanism. "You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free". Secular satanists hate God, Man (because man is in God's image) and truth (because you can't assert the existence of God if there is no truth).postmodernism is just deception. The original term for it was "sophistry".. It's lying to manipulate mankind.

Thou shalt have no other gods before me

Thou shalt have no other gods before me

>Flood detected; post discarded

>>854872

Indeed. Well put, anon.

>>854974

>I read somewhere in the OT that people should go to the doctor and pray. Both.

Definitely pray. Take the treatments you believe will help and always remember, that we never spend enough time in prayer.

When it's your time, God is in control and is more wise than anyone else for knowing what needs to happen. And we know that the Lord likes to keep His word and often times all you need to do is pray, in the name of his Son Jesus to give Him the pretext for addressing the problem. But of course, it's always in His hands, so you don't know what the positive outcome of your praying will necessarily be, but it will be positive.

>>854996

People who believe in the progressive narrative want to think that everything can be overcome by human efforts. When confronted with something like this, they are searching for ways to find certainty in a very unknown world. Masks provide that to them. Even if the implementation is virtually ineffective. It's more a kneejerk reaction thing where doing anything is seen as better than doing nothing. The people in media got caught in this scenario (where facts and objectivity are need) as they recently threw off all inhibition against disseminating partisan and self-serving talking points, and "their own truth" which they think they can get everyone to now believe in and (supposedly according to their worldview) not have any grounds to object to it. The reality is as anon said earlier, there will be more variants and continued vaccinations will likely be rolled out. One will not be enough. And yet the strange thing is that, this is less about science and making reasoned informed decisions, and more about getting everyone on the same page to have unquestioned "faith in the experts" than anything. Its about giving people something, other than God, to believe in, no matter what actually happens. I'm sure that regardless of what happens, the "experts" will crown themselves as having solved the problem if we get to the end of this, so that they can continue living in denial of God.

>>855003

>Its about giving people something, other than God, to believe in, no matter what actually happens. I'm sure that regardless of what happens, the "experts" will crown themselves as having solved the problem if we get to the end of this, so that they can continue living in denial of God.

Unfortunately many people are treating it this way. That said, it may prove wise to heed experts within their fields of expertise, as Romans 13 makes it pretty clear we should obey civil authorities. Perhaps the best way to neutralize this pagan attitude is to treat it strictly scientifically and not to overhype it.

My mum needs to get vaccine for work please pray for her

>>855007

>as Romans 13 makes it pretty clear we should obey civil authorities.

Don't read too much into that. "Civil authorities" chopped off Paul's head, the very man who wrote that. Civil authorities commanded all Christians to worship the Emperor Domitian as "Lord and God" and thousands were tortured and killed for refusing to do so.

That text has nothing to do with bending the knee at any random whim of rulers.

>>852361

I read an article about a person thanking moloch for parenthood and that got me so angry and a middle of all that the media puppets talking nons top that we need to all accept the vaccine.

Here is a video that describes the situation pretty well https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=17&v=HEy1Egad0qw&feature=emb_title

>>856055

This makes me sad. I wish I'd done more research. I've supported them in the past.

How many of them are Christian? I've seen people talk about 1-2 and 3+ million. That's a large spread.

>>854234

"Become all things to all people" as St.Paul wrote. They sort of have two religions (Thailand is the same): They mingle animism with Buddhism. So you have to understand both angles. Not just Shinto or Buddhism alone. Bigger ideas of Karma don't actually come up in day to day life. It's this other, older belief of animism, of spirits residing in places/objects and smaller ideas of karma that they tend to acknowledge more. So showing God's presence and blessings in the day to day may resonate more than bigger philosophical questions. And this is precisely where churches are slowly growing in Japan too. People need real help and real answers. Not theology or philosophy.

That all said, America needs salvation just as much, if not mores. It was Americans who bombed Nagasaki, which was the most Christian city in Japan. Most of those people had nothing to do with the war.

Another interesting tidbit, after the Emperor acknowledged his defeat, he asked General McArthur if he should rebuild the Church and have Christianity taught countrywide. Guess what? McArthur commanded him not to do it.

>>854365

Lol hardly at all they would be considered infidels for the things they do.

>>852299

There was this funny news story a long time ago about this man who found his total on his lunch receipt added up to 66.6 and was frightened about it and decided to follow Jesus. Although it was a silly reason, it was good for him.

It was just a coincidence, and the "Jesus hates you" image is only a joke. I posted and there is no intentional magick involved.There was a thread a long time ago where someone spamed their sigil on many image boards including this board

>I don't know, it sounds crazy but it's fun to speculate..

I used to do the same, it's fun, until it isn't.

>>851953

I blame the Catholics

>>840931

What's the original?

>>856044

The Christ-chan being Executed was wearing a shirt that says Masturbation is a sin.

>>855997

The Jews in America are just minority of the rich (which all completely rule over us). If you got rid of all the Jews we would still have gentile elite ruling us across the globe.

Being something is proved by our conduct:

"Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me."

Thus Biden who does everything agaisnt God's laws, hates Him and is not a Catholic nor Christian.

He insists on that identity to dupe some dumb voters.

>>855991

Still raiding here, leftypol tranny?

America itself is (current) Babylon. Know that and stop singling specific groups out. It's all from hell. Even those who want to follow Christ are pulled in by the allure of Babylon and damn themselves. That goes both for your fornicating "good ole boy" sons who attend Baptist churches and your whore daughters at Catholic schools. Instead of being smug about it, you should grieve and fear the Lord and flee before the building crashes on your head as well.

Just propaganda as usual.

They were federal and run by different churches. Kids who died of tuberculosis and disease got put in individual graves with a wooden cross. Crosses rot and disappear in time.

Media says that a cemetery is mass grave an that the kids were purposely genocided…..

This goes into detail: https://forheavenssake46778317.wordpress.com/2021/06/08/residential-schools-should-teach-the-church-to-cease-trusting-experts/

>>855759

>bE hApPy

Go be a retarded thirteen-year old reddittor somewhere else, please.

Even without bringing God into the equation, religion and tradition offer stability, a sense of community, a sense of meaning, and a connection to the past.

Even if I knew for sure that all the religions on Earth were false, I'd still be religious and I'd still be a Christian. That's because an irreligious life offers exactly nothing.

The 'happiness' it offers is hollow and meaningless. You can spend your youth mindlessly trying to sate your short-term cravings, and it will mean exactly nothing anymore when you grow older.

People need belonging and a meaningful connection with others. Religion provides both of those, as it provides both community and a common ground in the form of shared lore, morals and traditions.

Irreligion provides neither. It ultimately only causes people to become atomized individuals - people who are not connected to anything or anyone.

"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" John 15:13

Faith is more important than my life upon earth because it secures Eternal Life for the believer, and it compels to believer to live for, and even to die for, others, rather than to live for himself. I lived for myself once, and I would rather die than do it again.

>>855759

You are 12.