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1e921e No.854819 [Open Thread]

Do you believe in evolution?

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516b09 No.857239

It happened to the jews simply by breeding with the gentiles. People like to say that the codex gigas depicts Satan in it but that's actually a picture of what Moses looked like. Jews used to look that way they had scales horns and could see in the dark and gentiles were separate because we simply are separate. But now days because of blood pollution the jews look like us all the reptilian has been bread out

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d1afec No.857245

I question all that is the product of human reason.

I take on absolute faith the real teachings of the Bible and the true Popes.

God made this universe, and this is how I understand it to have been done. The Bible was not made to be a scientific thesis, but a guide for us. As guides go, it contained knowledge that was not known to man 7000 years ago.

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4ac892 No.857972

>>854947

>>854945

No, the church fathers overwhelmingly rejected metaphorical interpretations of genesis. Darwinian evolution is not factual and it assumes that God doesn’t exist for it to be absolutely true. Here is a common example:

>Life form a is found

>Life form b is found

>Life form a resembles life form b

>Therefore they have a common ancestor

This completely ignores the possibility that they could have been created this way, if it is possible that God exists, there is no reason to be absolutely sure they must have a common ancestor. It is very plausible that God created them. This all boils down to interpretation of data, data used to support Darwinian evolution is not incompatible with creationism. If any of this observed data can exist in a creationist worldview than it doesn’t disprove creationism or prove evolution.

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4ac892 No.857973

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4ac892 No.857974

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c4f7d2 No.850398 [Open Thread]

>in b4 "nice blog post"

You have to take the account of Genesis literal because much of the religion is based off it, and makes no sense if it was just a metaphor/parable. You have to do extreme mental gymnastics while reading the rest of the Bible if you deny the beginning of Genesis to be a literal story. Here I will debunk many of the arguments people use to discredit Genesis.

>Adam and Eve, and the other characters in the beginning of Genesis weren't real people, it's more of a parable.

1. Original sin came into the world because of what Adam did "For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.(1 Cor 15:21-22)" "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.(Rom 5:12-21)". That was a long long passage to quote, buPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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e3ba55 No.856114

>>856113

That's fair. You could look at it that way too. Either way, the true God gets all the glory, and it annoyed polytheists. And that's it main target. It's not about our modern notions of science, but a dismissal of polytheism known in the world.

I would say further that the whole chapter is subversive. Temple dedications (even outside Israel) lasted for seven days, where on the last day, the "god" rests in the temple. Solomon himself does this too when he builds the first Temple, as indicated in seven day dedication in Chronicles. In Genesis, it's a song of dedication for the true temple in heaven.

Other elements would have annoyed polytheists too. God creates plants and herbs before he ever creates the Sun. Pagans (and even people today) were enamored with the power of the Sun and of Fertility, and had gods dedicated to those domains. But here in Genesis, God doesn't need any of it. Plants grow because of his Word. There's no sun at all. The Sun is an after thought merely to automate what his word already began.

The creation of Man at the end is the most subversive to the Sumerian/Babylonian worldview. In their scheme, the gods created the garden for themselves, and for man to be a slave who worked for the gods. But in Genesis, the garden is created for Man and out of love. Not out of slavery.

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0e279e No.857261

They got us as kids man! They got us as kids, not the church, but the wolves! They pulled the fraud out in the open, since they've put the screen in front of our eyes! https://odysee.com/SpeakingTheTruthinalltheRealm:8

It's already banned by Public Broadcasting Service!

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3e2cb7 No.857286

"In the beginning"

Time.

"God created the heavens"

space

"and the earth."

matter.

"And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness."

Light is light, not time, in order for light to travel, it needs time, as photons travel at a fixed speed through space.

I would like to point you to the following;

Video game development.

In a history long ago i made maps for UT2k4, an online shooter.

Every time i would load a new file, clean and empty, i would start with a blank space. Within this space i could create all kinds of objects.

However if i would load the map for testing, everything would be pitch black, if i forgot something very specific.

Why?

Because i did not add any "sources" of light to be generated within the map once it is loaded.

This is probably not purely aligning with the genesis 1:1-3 passages, however i do not think it is far from it either.

The light that God created in this context i am presenting was merely not fixed to celestial objects.

It does not really make sense to create plants on day 3 without light to nourish them.

In other words, i find it more reasonable that light was confined to terrestrial objects on day 4 (the celestial clock made for signs and seasons), then that light "actually means time", if there are very distinct words to be used if you want to describe either.

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50229f No.857970

The church fathers also unanimously teach it:

Six thousand years of our world are not yet completed.

St. Jerome, Doctor of the Church, Commentariorum in Epistulam Pauli Apostoli ad Titum Liber Unus, I,Ib-4.

> Six thousand years of our world are not yet completed.

Council of Trullo, canon 3,

>Especially as the fault of ignorance has reached no small number of men, we decree, that those who are involved in a second marriage, and have been slaves to sin up to the fifteenth of the past month of January, in the past fourth Indiction, the 6109th year, and have not resolved to repent of it, be subjected to canonical deposition…

The Acts of the Second Council of Nicaea (AD 787), Sess. 6:

>“In the year 5501 Christ our God came to mankind and lived with us for thirty-three years and a little less than five months.”

St. Basil the Great (c. 330–379):

>"And if anyone were to say that the days mentioned in the account are not to be understood as days, he would be admitting that the sacred Scriptures are not true. For they would be saying that there were no six days, but only a confused time… the evening and the morning were the first day."

Source: Hexaemeron, Homily 1, trans. Blomfield Jackson (The Macmillan Company, 1895), p. 23.

St. John Chrysostom (c. 349–407):

>"In the first place, He [God] created light, and then darkness; He divided the light from the darkness, calling the light 'day,' and the darkness He called 'night.' And the evening and the morning were the first day… This, then, is the meaning of the expression, ‘and the evening and the morning were the first day.’ He made a day as we understand it today, with an evening and a morning."

Source: Homily on Genesis, Homily 1, trans. Roy J. Deferrari (Catholic University of America Press, 1951), p. 21.*

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50229f No.857971

Theistic evolutionalists also believe that God created death and that it is natural.

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efd9fe No.857951 [Open Thread]

Struggling to Save My Scripture Stream?

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efd9fe No.857952

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Brothers and sisters, I’m struggling and seek your wisdom. Rumble’s threatening to remove me from their creators program unless I get 20 unique commenters on my 24-hour scripture stream’s Live Comments this month. I stream scripture daily, sharing the Word in 12 languages to spread the Gospel worldwide. It’s my calling, but this feels like a spiritual attack trying to silence God’s message. Has anyone faced platforms hindering their ministry? Any creative ideas or prayers to keep this mission alive? I’d value your thoughts—perhaps we can continue the conversation where I share the Word. Really praying about this.

God bless

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8ea3ae No.857968

you're a gigantic faggot

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62d6bf No.836579 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

What's /christian/'s thoughts on the Shroud of Turin? Is it authentic?

I remember there was a famous info graphic that was made on the old board supposedly proving its authenticity.

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892d4e No.857356

>>853458

The watchers modified humanity with transhumanism in the early days, mixing up mankind genetics with other species (the ghost people of Africa that make up 20% of Africans dna, the neanderthalis of Europe and asia that makes up 1-6%, the dens that are 1-3% in Asians)

The last time that happened god promised he wouldn’t cleanse the earth in water anymore. He will keep his promise. He will not use water but instead fire to cleanse our planet

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892d4e No.857357

>>853470

Genesis was metaphorical you silly goose

God makes explosion (big bang), then god makes the water (4D plasma soup), then he separates the land from the water (planets forming out of the cooling soup), then he makes fish and animals then finally humans.

An all powerful being was talking to his favorite little guy on the mountain (like someone talking to their favorite sim in a game)

Moses can’t see all of creation, the stars the germs the quarks.

How could Moses have known that 68% of the universe is black holes? Devoid of light beyond his vision, garbage collectors ripping matter apart into a singularity and then growing larger pushing the universe around it?

God programmed it, as well as me and you silly billy, so he had to dumb down the concepts which is where the Books of Moses come from. It’s a large parable just like he gave us in the New Testament, God is really good at parables, he’s the best!

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892d4e No.857358

>>855783

There is a second cloth that was with it that was smaller only on his face that matches…. You know that right?

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40f4b9 No.857955

>>856226

Is there even evidence for a local flood? What would you say about typology and exorcisms?

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40f4b9 No.857967

>>856231

Are you still here? Can you reply?

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ed72b0 No.857961 [Open Thread]

Isn't Katie Shramko a good Christian girl?

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ed72b0 No.857962

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Helping her friends see the way too

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Outdoors too! Katie Shramko really likes to show the way!

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000000 No.857966

I want some of those muff burgers

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01f370 No.857915 [Open Thread]

Where do I go? Hook me up.

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a19f7a No.857958

Do not believe this garbage. It's a lie. You can still have salvation.

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b6f055 No.857960

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aad935 No.857954 [Open Thread]

The Prophetic Judgment Of My Mega-Churches Of The Antichrist spirit Of Error

“Speak unto My Church, the ones who do not listen, My son. They listen to the worldly ones, not the ones controlled by My Spirit. They listen to the Antichrist, and the ones controlled by his Antichrist spirit, the false pastors of error. They listen to the world, and the ones controlled by the spirit of error, not My Holy Spirit. They are of the world, therefore they listen to the world, to the ones speaking of the world, not by My Spirit. The world they love, therefore they speak of the world— the false pastors of error. They control the Mega-Churches of the land, not Me, otherwise they would speak of Me instead of the world of error. The Mega-Churches they love, not Me, therefore they lead the people they serve into deception, because they love not Me but the world of sin and error. Loving the world, they lead the people down into error and deception of false doctrine, because they love not the truth but error. My people in Mega-Churches shall be damned forever because they love not the truth but error and deception. The people shall not be saved, because they hear not the truth, but the errors of Satan spoken through the mouths of the false pastors. Such are the case of the Mega-Churches everywhere— they love Me not nor will hear Me but the errors of Satan himself, listening to all the falsehoods and lies of the Evil One himself. They cannot stand the truth nor listen to true doctrine of soundness, but pay attention to errors themselves, because they know Me not, their Savior, the Son of God, nor listen to My Spirit of Truth, but cast aside out of their midst those who do, My son. A society of Goats they are; they shall be cast into eternal darkness, into the flames of everlasting punishment itself, instead of into My Kingdom of Truth. They want Me not, otherwise they would listen to Me, the Son of God. Such is the case of all of those who cannot stand the truth, for I Am the truth itself. That they cannot stand because they have rejected truth itself, for I Am Truth. Into the kingdom of lies they go because they have not received My love of the truth, but have been subjected unto strong delusion, believing lies of Satan himself. The father of lies they worship, because they do not worship according to Spirit and truth, but according to lies. They will not be saved but casPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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c9d5ef No.857957

>>857954

Amen may the LORD of truth and righteousness be continually blessed forever. Selah

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99cdec No.857945 [Open Thread]

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bb39c0 No.857944 [Open Thread]

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503f02 No.857924 [Open Thread]

Jesus give me wings!

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5189c8 No.857940

Go winnie the pooh yourself degenerate faggot

nobody wants you here

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ed5c0e No.857965

>>857924

I took a massive s— in ur kick tigger mouth

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5101cc No.857938 [Open Thread]

AI is the ultimate power tool of the Illuminati elites. Detouring the human race to the demonic left, and secretly erasing 99% of all human life worldwide by January 1st, 2030. No survivors allowed. The only "survivors, are their bioengineered humans manufactured by the Rothschild-controlled CIA taking our place in under one googolth of a yoctasecond. They cannot reproduce, hunt, gather, rest, medicate, feed, socialize, nothing from the natural world. They are going to be permanently controlled by the ancient's central carrier existing in the Protoverse outside ours. All while the mega-wealthy are settling in different galaxies in under 1.35 seconds.

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3bf9cd No.857937 [Open Thread]

The Prophetic Judgment Of My Greedy Ministers

“A Living God I Am, My son. A lot of My people don’t follow Me right. They refuse to give away all, My son, and follow Me like you have. In fact, they want more for self in this greedy culture. Greedy dogs are everywhere in ministry, false prophets who can never have enough. They have misused the Prosperity Gospel for their own advantage, stockpiling vast stockpiles of wealth. My son, that should not be so. They should distribute unto the people, but instead hoard vast sums for self. Woe unto the greedy dogs, My son, false ministers who forever want more. It should have been better that they had never been born! Woe unto them, the miseries headed their way, their wealth shall eat their flesh as by fire! Such is the end of all greedy men who hoard wealth for the end times, My son! You have none– rejoice in your pennilessness! Your LORD has spoken. Amen and amen forever!”

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7c5c5b No.857932 [Open Thread]

PROPHECY- The Punishment Of My Global Satanic Cult

“Woe unto the global cult of Satanic pedophiles, My son. For My Eye spares not all involved in gross Satanism. My son, I see all, and I will punish, even those involved in the global pedophile trade, and that with fury. For I see all, all cult hangouts, and I will recompense with fury unto the evildoer, My son. My pedophiles of evil will be rounded up and executed, and that with furiosity, My son. For My Eye sees all, all abused and tortured in the name of Satan, all roasted and eaten on altars of Satanic worship. For My Eye sees all, and I will repay all, even unto their bosom judgment and wrath, My son. Not a one will escape My wrath, except they repent before Me, for worshipping Satan with vigor and energy, My son. For they love Satan more than Me for what he can give them in the world of sin. Judgment and wrath is stored up for the evildoers of Satanic worshippers who eat My children with glee and fury. That I will recompense unto them, My son. Who do they think they are worshipping, My son? For My enemy is nothing before Me, even less than nothing, and all who worship him will find themselves in Hell for worshipping a nonexistent demon, My son. For all demons are nothing before Me, even less than nothing, says the Eternal God. For I will judge all who participate in evil crimes against children, and their judgment is waiting, My son, even eternal Hell. For the Lake of Fire is waiting for all consigned there from the beginning of time, even My pedophile evildoers, sick Satanists who eat and devour My children. For I Am A God of Wrath to all Satanic evildoers, and they shall be rounded up and cast into My Furnace of Fire forever! Count on it! The Living God has spoken. Amen and amen forever!”

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f37149 No.857931 [Open Thread]

PROPHECY- The Punishment Of My Pastors Who Practice The Wicked Christmas Holiday

“Many are the abominations in My Church. My pastors refuse to listen to Me through My prophets. They must be punished with severe punishment because they know it is wrong, My son. Where in My Word does it say to practice the abominable and wicked Christmas holiday? I have My holidays, as outlined in My Word, and Christmas is not one of them. It was created by the world, by Semiramis, wicked woman, and her son, Nimrod, wicked man, founder of the world celebration, My son. Nowhere does it say in My Word to practice a pagan holiday. It does not. It is thoroughly Satanic, a holiday of evil. Many evil things are celebrated and practiced in the evil Christmas holiday, My son. It is thoroughly evil. Why does My Church practice such a wicked holiday? It has nothing to do with My birth, the Savior of the world. December 25th was not My birthday, My son. It is not in My Word. I was born in the Spring in Israel, not in December. It is of the world, the founder of the world system of evil, Nimrod himself. My son, do not practice the wicked Christmas holiday, full of evil and abomination, My son. Yet My pastors refuse to obey Me through the prophets, catering to the evil of the people, because they love it so much. That they will not repent of, because many love the Christmas holiday in the world. Even in My Church they will not give up the abominable Christmas holiday because they love it so much. They must be punished and that most severely, even My pastors, for practicing a wicked pagan holiday that they will not give up. Your LORD has spoken, My son. Amen.”

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2ecdf5 No.857930 [Open Thread]

PROPHECY- Reigning With Me Is For My Overcomers, My Son

“My son, a new day is coming. Many have been blinded by Satan’s plan. The New World Order, the appearance of My enemy the Antichrist, is an eventuality. Many will fall into his evil plans. My people will not be spared, My son. Many will fall. They refuse to do My will. He is sent to clean up humanity. Many will go to Hell. They will take the mark and be subject to eternal damnation. I have planned it, My son. It is My End-Time plan as outlined in Revelation. Next comes the Millennium, My reign on Earth. Many will be resurrected in the First Resurrection, My son, the Rapture. They shall partake of My Feast, and the Millennium Reign of My Son, Jesus Christ. Partake of it if you can. I will reign forever– I Am the Living God, Jesus Christ. Me and My Father shall rule eternity forever. You can too, only My overcomers. Be an overcomer and overcome the world, the flesh, and the Devil. Your LORD has spoken. Amen and amen forever, My son!”

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