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1dafaf No.855566 [Open thread]

how would you combat the growth of islam and atheism?

dont make LARPer replies, a crusade or something like that is not sustainable politicaly

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49aae2 No.855704

Christendom is weak and feminized. No matter if you look at Catholicism, Orthodoxy or Protestant heretics. Manliness is a lost art, more so in Christian communities. Pure strength attracts multitude of people, be the strength used for good or evil. Case in point is, strength is lacking, hence God is smiting us so harshly. All the theological debates are irrelevant if we cannot fulfill basic natural principles. The purge can come, alright.

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c64401 No.855705

>>855699

True, in the OT it says the land spits out the wicked. The entire western world will be spit out unless people bend the knee to the Lord again.

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af379d No.855749

Lol islam has forced conversions and death to apostasy in place but in terms of conversion in egypt parts of the middle east maybe jordan maylasia and indonesia china and other parts of asia and africa christian is growing by conversion

Islam is growing by immigration having to many kids a little terror here and there

>nvm the fact only people or idiots fall into it and then regretting it a few years later or because is very strict and right about women nvm all these sharia rulings that would've likely regressed all the progress the west has done h hey why cant I watch muh animees

Retards like these do not apply but thankfully are the minority overall I am not worried about islam considering the holes in the narrative their islamic figures sheyiks clerics all talked about a falling out or the tsunami of apostates or avalanche of apostasy or what ever rolls off the tongue easier and I am guessing most of them are either closeted.

Atheism….

Where to start…

Well saying Jesus loves you will have them huge paragraphs why christianity is false and God being rightfully just means

>god bad

Cherry pick passages out of contexts sometimes figurative or allegorical language some so militious they are on duty on wiping christianity out before going after other religious.

But unfortunately for them that won't happen.

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af379d No.855750

>>855699

If I remember correctly wasn't there a verse of God punishing nations who all leave or forget him?

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72c971 No.855974

>>855566

your only chance is to indoctrinate children, but you won't have any since you're on 4chan

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18e65e No.855644 [Open thread]

I know i will get a lot of hate for this,I dont care,im too ashamed to say this in a registered forum so I have-come here.

can I pray to,as a male,be more masculine-attractive?

i feel my facial features are *hierarchically* less attractive than someone else's

im a catholic,im willing to pray novenas,rosaries(I already pray daily),even fast,whetever. I cant bear being ugly- I really cant.

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3837fc No.855694

>>855644

Sorry but that's not something God does in this world. In the Bible it is recorded that people with diseases are miraculously cured but there's never an instance where someone's face was made more handsome. The best alternative is to pray for wealth so that you can get plastic surgery.

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541af4 No.855695

as a guy?

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541af4 No.855696

>>855687

Agreed

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3113b3 No.855776

>>855652

Good job

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4a3419 No.855973

>>855644

take a shower and go to the gym, putting your hands together and closing your eyes isn't going to do anything

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2fe885 No.851516 [Open thread]

Thoughts on Meister Eckhart?

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d6426e No.851538

>>851516

what of him?

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f28a85 No.855950

Post his best sermons. I'm super familliar sith his name but have never actually really read his stuff.

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f28a85 No.855952

Also what more is

> bbut hes a heretic, anon

Yes, but did he actually cut his d— off - like Origen? Hmm?

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ea4e79 No.855970

You can find his sermons online, pdf, they're extremely clear, good and mystical in a way that everyone can benefit from, not just super saints.

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451060 No.855963 [Open thread]

Anyone read this? Thoughts? Let's have a discussion.

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8d922c No.855781 [Open thread]

From all the three fascist rulers, he was the most devout Christian. Is him and the Spanish Falange acceptable?

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8d922c No.855860

>>855854

It's pretty obvious that you are dumbass and that you don't know nothing about Spanish politics. The Bourbons are filthy thief rats anti-christian and anti-Spanish trash and is precisely for them that now Spain is winnie the poohed to the core.

winnie the pooh the Bourbons and winnie the pooh YOU INBRED RETARD

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8d922c No.855861

>>855860

>winnie the poohed

LMFAOOOO stupid wordfilters

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c94ba0 No.855866

>>855824

>Fascism is a mutant of modernity, it cannot coexist with traditional religion

Franco was a really big supporter of the church and traditionalism.

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06864e No.855946

>>855861

Welcome to /christian/

Now get out

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1739a3 No.855948

>>855860

So… This is the power of Hispania

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96bb21 No.855643 [Open thread]

568 Years ago today Constantinople fell to the Ottomans. Today, the mother church of Constantinople operates again as a mosque, a living insult to all Christendom.

Pope Innocent III to Baldwin, Count of Flanders and Hainault:

"You took upon yourselves the duty of delivering the Holy Land from the Infidel. You were forbidden under pain of excommunication from attacking any Christian lands, unless they refused you passage or would not help you (and even then you were to do nothing contrary to the wishes of my legate). You had no claims or pretensions to the lands of Greece. You were under the most solemn vows of Our Lord-and yet you have totally disregarded these vows. It was not against the Infidel but against Christians that you drew your sword. It was not Jerusalem that you captured but Constantinople. It was not heavenly riches upon which your minds were set, but earthly ones. But far and above all of this, nothing has been sacred to you-neither age nor sex. In the eyes of the whole world you have abandoned yourselves to debauchery, adultery and prostitution. You have not only violated married women and widows, but even women and virgins whose lives were dedicated to Christ. You have looted not only the treasures of the Emperor and of citizens both rich and poor, but have despoiled the very sanctuaries of God's Church. You have broken into holy places, stolen the sacred objects of altars-even including crucifixes-and you have pillaged innumerable images and relics of the Saints. It is hardly surprising that the Greek Church, beaten down though it is, rejects any obedience to the Apostolic See. It is hardly surprising that it sees in all Latins no more than treachery and the works of the Devil, and regards all of them as curs."

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8d3b52 No.855685

Insult? They pray to God in the best possible way. The Orthodox have always been under the protection of Muslims. Because it's right

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aed340 No.855690

>>855685

Cool story bro

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611e48 No.855863

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>>855685

>Insult? They pray to God in the best possible way. The Orthodox hae always been under the protection of Muslims. Because it's right

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cf522b No.855943

>>855685

>Insult? They pray to God in the best possible way.

Mindlessly reciting a garbled Arabic that you do not even understand is not 'prayer'.

Note Lord Jesus' very simple instructions on prayer (Matthew 6:5-7):

"And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is hidden; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathens do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words."

Note how Islamic 'prayer' is the exact opposite of all of this.

>The Orthodox have always been under the protection of Muslims.

>800 years of more or less continuous war and ghazi rapacity

>making a point of seizing any single noteworthy church or holy site, simply for the sake of it

>"protection"

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97710c No.855290 [Open thread]

Just a little about myself, i am a Christian who believes in the Devil, but this video by this guy has shaken my belief in the devil, i'll try to summarize the video. Tell me your thoughts on this, do you agree or disagree?

>The central figure related to this panic, a fallen angel who sits on the throne of hell is simply not real, this is not a of skepticism of the supernatural rather it is a statement rooted in Christianity. The Devil as depicted in popular culture does not exist in the holy bible.

>In the book of Job however the Devil is not "the Devil". Although mistranslated and misrepresented in the Christian Bible, the Hebrew bible does not name him Satan but rather "ha-satan". "ha" translates into the definite article "the" and Satan closely translates to the accuser, the adversary (or within the specific context of the book of job) the prosecutor. Satan is not a proper name but a title or descriptor. In the book of Job God meets with his heavenly court, who they are depends on the book, in Psalms82:1 They are called divine beings and gods, in 1 Kings 22:19 they are the heavenly hosts, but suffice to say they're beings to assist God in one way or another, among them is ha-satan.

>in the book of Zaccaria the accuser appears only to be rebuked

>in the hebrew bible the only time the proper name is used in 1 chronicles, to the author and to the Jewish poeple this was not meant to be "that satan"

>Many scholars understand the Hebrew satan to refer to the infamous heavenly being but it is more likely here to refer to a human adversary. Thought somethings are clear such as the basics of translations, the motivations of the anonymous authors of the Hebrew Bible are challenging to determine in even less confusing circumstances. never the less every reference to the "the devil" in the Old Testament practically has an asterisk next to it.

>When Christians re-translated the Hebrew Bible as their old testament, the word "satan" was often capitalized and made Satan, even if it wasn't the satan, God's servant, any satan meaning any accuser, any enemy. For example Psalms 109:6-7 Appoint a wicked man over him; may the accuser Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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dae451 No.855857

File: 13b9f2305d75a79⋯.jpg (105.97 KB,700x867,700:867,1623686723147.jpg)

>i'm a christian who believes in the devil

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02aadb No.855893

>>855857

Whats your point?

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dae451 No.855895

>>855893

it's doublespeak, like, is your refrigerator running – you better go catch it!

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e31635 No.855912

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>>855290

People that think the devil isn't real, just pray to God through Jesus Christ to show you. Don't pray to the devil to show you, he'll murdalize 'ya.

All that matters is do you believe in Jesus? If you do, then you know Jesus is trying to save you from both the devil, and Satan, who are one.

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e47b62 No.855938

>>855290

>In the book of Job however the Devil is not "the Devil". Although mistranslated and misrepresented in the Christian Bible, the Hebrew bible does not name him Satan but rather "ha-satan". "ha" translates into the definite article "the" and Satan closely translates to the accuser, the adversary (or within the specific context of the book of job) the prosecutor. Satan is not a proper name but a title or descriptor.

I have seen this misinformation spread on many parts, but it fails to take into account several important details. First, when "the Satan" meets God in the "heavenly court", the expression said by God is "Whence comest thou?". The original expression in the imperfect Me'âyn tâbo (where are you coming from?) denotes surprise at the fact. The sense is of someone who was at a closed event without a credential. "From circling the earth and walking through it," replies the Satán in an expression almost similar to that used by David walking in his palace (2Samuel 11:2) or God walking through the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:8). The idea is of a ruler examining his territory and concluding that no one opposes him. This makes it clear that "the Satan" is not a position that someone holds in the heavenly court, but rather an alien title that should not exist. Second, "the Satan," contrary to what OP understands, is not accusing Job, but God himself (Job 1:9-10).

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dbd972 No.855701 [Open thread]

Coast to coast AM host Art Bell believed UFOS, cryptids, and ghosts are all connected. Especially researching men in black they seem demonic. MIB sighting suggest they look like walking corpses and have black eyes that glow grey. As well MIB seems to have supernatural abilities like not being captured on physical camera film as well not casting reflections. Does the Bible support the idea of the paranormal being connected and demonic? Video of Jennifer Stevens case very related. Her house became haunted once she witnesses UFOS and as well stalker by glowing eyes pale skinned Men in black.

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13c516 No.855929

I really wish we could get some auto-embedding for youtubes.

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13c516 No.855930

File: 039ddc275016afe⋯.png (1.08 MB,1920x804,160:67,RedfallTrailerE3_TheShunni….png)

File: 04c3ec65269da3e⋯.png (810.76 KB,1920x804,160:67,RedfallE3Trailer_DarkSun.png)

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The Dark Sun is a Biblical reference to blocking out the sun, as well as to Dark Souls 3 game.

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13c516 No.855931

File: 625a8f4ef94f917⋯.jpg (34.57 KB,608x350,304:175,Shrek_Snapshot.jpg)

File: be93dd3ec9f817e⋯.png (318.52 KB,512x640,4:5,GoadTheToad.png)

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13c516 No.855932

File: 154f2271d8221a1⋯.jpg (225.41 KB,1024x768,4:3,Achan_GoldSilverBronze.jpg)

And Lord, we shouldn't have to beat Elden Ring. It's not by works.

Beating Dark Souls 3 was just for show. If they push it, then we want a full 360 Body, red light therapy, hot incandescent bed for our body. These Satanists are beyond threatening our lives.

Just like a baptism doesn't do anything. It's only for show. Btw Joshua's sin was losing at Ai because of Achan. Joshua's sin is also that Solomon was a bastard child born out of wedlock.

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13c516 No.855935

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>>855933

You’ll make the Lord’s vengeance 7^5 if you don’t stop, and it’ll be on you. Repent sinner.

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1bd880 No.855905 [Open thread]

Most denominations are so boring and bland. There's a reason why most newbies either become Orthodox, Trad Catholic, or Evangelical going either extreme Fundamentalist or joining a hip but still conservative non-denominational church that may have some charismatic features to it. People either like ritual, a strong sense of community, or both. In Trad Catholic churches you'll find ritual. In Fundamentalist and hip non-denominational churches you'll find community. In Orthodox churches you'll find both. Actually I'd argue to extent you may even find both in the non-denomination churches too just in a far more emotive/charismatic way. These are the types of Christianites young people are attracted to. Not the bland novus ordo Catholic, progressive Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist, and Presbyterian churches that are just filled with boomers trying to be hip but who don't actually understand the youth and who have no real sense of the divine or theology and just go to church every Sunday while barely making an effort to practice the religion otherwise. People like to be filled with a sense of awe and connection to the past that actually requires them to do something, and/or strong emotional and personal experiences with the divine, and/or a strong bond with other people in their individual journey towards God. This is what people look for. This is why these are the forms of Christianity that are becoming most popular.

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925b0b No.855920

File: 5536ba449e2c736⋯.jpg (57.36 KB,590x332,295:166,0002b.jpg)

What you just described is called "lukewarm" and yes, it is bad.

There are other ways to be wrong, for sure. Like being a jihadist or a cult member who is dedicated to promoting falsehood. You find that in a lot of doctrinally wrong circles of people. We would call that out for its doctrinal error and lack of Biblical support, but we at least wouldn't call that lukewarm. Sort of like how the crowd in Elijah's day was hesitant of whether to worship the Lord or Baal before the fire came down from heaven and consumed the offering that Elijah placed.

As it says in 1 Kings 18:21,

"And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lᴏʀᴅ be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word."

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a3d9a5 No.855765 [Open thread]

Twitter, reset era and bread tube trying to cancel creator of FNAF for being a conservative, christian republican

>Worked on a animated movie based on pilgrim progress

>did a video game with pro life themes before FNAF

>FNAF it’s self has a lot of strong christian overtones and religious symbolism

>SJWs and literal trannies shocked Scott cawthan liberal!

>He even donated money to children hospitals that are not transgender friendly!

Like (((Hollywood))) the (((video game industry))) was never worth saving.

https://archive.is/4Dj1x

https://archive.ph/xYFGr

https://archive.ph/GsrzC

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a3d9a5 No.855768

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Scott cawthan and his family being dox for being christians in the video game industry

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ec3f71 No.855778

>>855765

>>FNAF it’s self has a lot of strong christian overtones and religious symbolism

Coulda fooled me, I thought it was just cancer

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a3d9a5 No.855913

>>855778

Looks like you got glitter pleb

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ddd385 No.855918

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>>855778

Thread got bumped to top, so I'm going to post an I AGREE.

First Post is Best Post.

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1133aa No.855885 [Open thread]

Good evening /christian/

I have come here to seek for advise on what to do.

I am currently 18 years old but i turn 19 years old in august, so you could technically say im still pretty young.

I am going through a little crisis inside myself on what i should do with my faith.

I do believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and that God is his Father aswell as the Father of us.

In 2012 i have joined a secondary school that i spent 5 years in with lots of classmates. I have shared countless of bad experiences with these people and many others to the point where there was (and still is) a burning flame inside me that seeks out for revenge.

However this flame itself is directed at two people only who i share the most hatred for.

The difference however is, that for these two people i seek revenge for what they did to me in those 5 years.

However the others, i just wish them a sad life.

I recently got into Satanism and how Lucifer The Fallen angel got sent to hell by God for his unrighteous pride and rebellous acts against our father.

Upon searching more for him i have noticed that i do have a good and an evil side inside me. Sometimes this evil side inside me is bigger, but at other times im a nice and friendly young man who wants to help people as much as i can with lots of positivity for ANYONE.

Now i want to ask you /christian/

Is it okay to have a devil and an angel inside you. Should i seek out for help by the Church to get rid of my inner demons? I tried and tried and tried but i somehow wont get rid of this flame inside me for these two enemies that i have. I believe that this flame will perish once i fullfil my revenge.

I am confused. I need help. What do you think?

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73a0c7 No.855896

File: 8e2338310be5f2d⋯.jpg (14.98 KB,391x391,1:1,_AUTOIMAGES_AMDDSC01lg.jpg)

No, you dont have the devil inside you, but this image is theologically correct, angels and demons can put thoughts into our heads.

Its our job to deliberate. As Paul says - 'Hold every thought captive and subject them to Christ.'

So if you believe Jesus is Lord, subject your will to Him. Want to take a petty revenge that will only bring more disorder and suffering into the world? Obey God and desist.

Pray for those who did you harm so they might accept God's grace, and you all will be closer to Heaven. Go ahead with revenge, and you all will be closer to Hell.

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3bf49d No.855909

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>>855885

You’re supposed to forgive those people, especially in youth, since your body is still young and growing. Also, it isn’t just about angels and demons. There is cherubim and seraphim angels. There is the Father, the Holy Spirit, and The Son of God. Following each of these can have different results, and paths. God says all of them will fail unless it’s through Jesus of course. And among the Sons of God, Lucifer was the most beautiful looking, as well as the serpent when Eve saw him. So, we imagine that the rest of the Sons of God, who came in unto the daughters of Men, and who’s sons became men of renown, giants, must not have been the most beautiful, but may have even been called ugly. Ugliness doesn’t imply disobedience, just like there are ugly creatures that aren’t evil. There are certainly vicious, ferocious, wicked and evil creatures that exist because of sin, and the fall, but even those animals can be brought out of such corruption, so it isn’t about the animals, or even the spirits. It’s about what kinds of spirits just hate God and life for their own evil reason.

So one of the things I would have liked to known in my youth is that being abased and being made ugly is actually better than being made exalted and pretty looking. But God can’t control you. He gives you a free will to choose, but if you are His through Jesus then you will be punished for choosing the wrong one. But rewarded for the right one. Hope that helps.

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39ed91 No.855890 [Open thread]

What is /christian/'s take on Western Rite Orthodoxy ? Prots gtfo. As someone who is from a western cultural and ethnic tradition and sees that as relatively important (as well as having grown up in a nominally Roman Catholic home), should I take this seriously as I discern between the various apostolic churches (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian, ect) ? Western Orthodox communities such as the Communion of Western Orthodox Churches seem to make more intuitive sense to me than sedevacantism.

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099acc No.855892

>>855890

As far as I'm aware western rite Liturgy is a-ok in the eyes of the Eastern Orthodox churches

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3a65c6 No.855889 [Open thread]

What is /christian/'s take on Western Rite Orthodoxy ? Prots gtfo. As someone who is from a western cultural and ethnic tradition and sees that as relatively important (as well as having grown up in a nominally Roman Catholic home), should I take this seriously as I discern between the various apostolic churches (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Assyrian, ect) ? Western Orthodox communities such as the Communion of Western Orthodox Churches seem to make more intuitive sense to me than sedevacantism.

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ca991c No.855840 [Open thread]

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Born again Christans DO NOT SIN!

If you're still sinning, then it's extremely likely that you're NOT born again, and if you're NOT born again, THEN YOU WILL GO TO HELL WHEN YOU DIE…

BORN AGAIN Christians that WILFULLY SIN AFTER THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH WILL STILL GO TO HELL, AND THERE IS NO WAY TO REVERSE THEIR DAMNATION!!

YOU ABSOLUTELY *MUST* STOP SINNING - IT'S A CORE REQUIREMENT OF THE GOSPEL…

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We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

1 John 5:18

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Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1 John 3:6

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Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

1 John 3:9

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Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

1 Corinthians 15:34

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For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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81b8bf No.855878

Well, I believe you, but my Tommy-Gun Don't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oorx2EQ0Ag

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81b8bf No.855879

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81b8bf No.855880

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BOND, JAMES ER…PETER BOND

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81b8bf No.855881

12 MEN

12 KNIGHTS

1 DESIIIIIIIIIIRE

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50c335 No.855888

"Born again" is synonymous with baptism. It doesn't prevent one from sinning; rather, it washes away our original sin inherited from Adam, and it instills a conviction in us to abstain from sinning and seek repentance when we do slip up.

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3f5ac7 No.855868 [Open thread]

I said it, I meant it, I'm here to represent it.

PS, WHY THE winnie the pooh IS THIS CAPTCHA SO GAY??!?! CHANGE IT TO SOMETHING SLIGHTLY EASIER!! 10 times in a row it says Ive gotten it wrong as if I didn't learn my letters and numbers when I was 3 years old…how retarded are you Watkins?

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