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File: 00329f641f09034⋯.jpg (138.25 KB,916x719,916:719,atheismisnot.jpg)

14883f No.855718 [Open thread]

The idea that the natural world and the supernatural world are separate realms of reality is a rather modern notion in reaction to the advances of both medieval philosophy and even more so advances in modern science contrary to the Biblical view. The authors of the Bible understood the natural world to be in many ways continuous with the supernatural world, they were both causally linked. This of course does not mean that the ancients were necessarily naturalists or materialists in the philosophical sense, they weren't, and they did recognize that a higher and distinct realm existed from the one we experience in everyday life, but that this didn't fully necessitate full distinction between the two. For example, the Bible's cosmology(s), which were deeply rooted in the surrounding cultures, imagine the stars and planets as actual living creatures (see Job 38:7, Psalm 33:7, Psalm 148:3-6, Isaiah 40:26, Deuteronomy 4:19, not to mention the countless times Yahweh is attached with the title "Yahweh of hosts/Yahweh of armies" the hosts/armies being thought of as the stars). Of course modern people know better and interpret these metaphorically as anthropomorphisms, but that's not how the original writers would have understood this at all. New Testament cosmology has both elements of Semitic and Greek thought in it, particularly Middle Platonic ideas that show up mostly in Paul, and also Stoic physics in it as well that show up also a lot in Paul but also in the Gospel traditions too. The ascension of Jesus in the first chapter of Acts, for example, clearly presupposes a tripartite universe found in Mesopotamian thought as well as in some Greek cosmological traditions. Now a great example of Stoic physics in the New Testament would be the envisioning of the Holy Spirit as a fiery entity for example (Acts 2:2-4). In fact, the entire concept behind the "Ruach" in the Old Testament (which is later primarily referred to as the Holy Spirit in both the New Testament and Talmud) is more or less a leftover from an quite older religious tradition of animism, the Greeks had quite a similar concept as the Semites did which isn't surprising given their proximity to each other and the fact that Greek religion was significantly influenced by Near Eastern religion. Other examples of Greek physics would be Paul's mention of the different kinds of glories inherent in the different sorts of bodies (1 Corinthians 15:40). In short, the Biblical worldview(s)Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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422329 No.855719

>>855718

get a life fedora

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6a0e2a No.855721

>>855718

1. atheism can be a belief

2. atheism can be a religion; see marxist-leninism and 'god building'.

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7bb227 No.855728

Atheism is the belief that you are god

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9eed2e No.855760

File: 481e614af4197a6⋯.png (484.63 KB,580x424,145:106,ClipboardImage.png)

https://palladiummag.com/2019/05/31/xi-jinping-in-translation-chinas-guiding-ideology/

https://www.dawn.com/news/1457496

People are incorrigibly religious. If you brainwash them into rejecting God they will worship something else.

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814e26 No.855761

>>855721

/thread

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File: a1a3754e230c66e⋯.png (37.79 KB,1046x819,1046:819,Untitled.png)

bc9766 No.855541 [Open thread]

Who is correct about the afterlife/intermediate state?

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c6af02 No.855550

File: 905c79f256e3261⋯.jpg (281.91 KB,1000x1192,125:149,christ_in_limbo_fra_angeli….jpg)

Painting of Christ crashing the door to lead the righteous to heaven.

A demon got squished under the door :}.

But i dont think its theologically accurate that there would be demons there.

>>855548

It's the internet…

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bc9766 No.855551

>>855549

Yes but when I included Limbo there I meant the Limbo of the Infants not the Limbo of the Fathers.

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80c7c2 No.855552

Toll houses are fake and gay, it's a heresy and don't appear anywhere in the bible and no it's not part of a holy tradition in the Orthodox church.

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426914 No.855725

>>855546

before being rude you should help an anon out man

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f22b60 No.855758

>>855541

i would probably guess, catholic categories with orthodox qualities, for example toll houses are a descriptor for purgatory.

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File: a0dbab227c17286⋯.mp4 (5.1 MB,640x360,16:9,christwave.mp4)

7b798f No.855017 [Open thread]

Do people have more stuff like this? I'm looking for anything audiovisually intensive and inspirational. Preferred without the gringy surprise beginning.

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b374a3 No.855021

File: 3233c92c18fc173⋯.png (709.81 KB,1008x541,1008:541,hPbRCVW.png)

>>855017

You'll find plenty like it if you look up Christwave. We could use a lot more of it, particularly videos similar to "Take Back Our Future" (which was so influential that JewTube banned the original and put a filter in place to prevent reuploads of it); a Christ-centered theme not associated with Nazism, but nevertheless showing the appeal of a moral, Christian society that has

>stable, healthy families

>friendly, tight-knit communities

>fraternity

>maternity

>peace

>charity

>unity

>an overall "good old days", pre-lockdown vibe

And more on full display. Considering the mess we're in right now thanks to secular lunatics, I have the feeling Christwave (and Christianity in general) will rise to prominence once again.

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e6f02d No.855041

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

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979570 No.855737

>>855017

>>855021

Do you or anyone else know the source video(s) from :20 to :24 in the thread video?

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98ec4e No.855738

File: 863b1cc5a70c908⋯.webm (2.82 MB,640x800,4:5,1620737438862.webm)

This webm profoundly affected me. The illustrations and music are striking.

The Bible in one minute basically.

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f6fd41 No.855742

>>855738

I always like Gustave Dore's art.

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File: 5413061211d57b2⋯.jpg (147.54 KB,496x435,496:435,Tissot_Shem_Ham_and_Japhet….jpg)

de6696 No.855282 [Open thread]

Which of Noah's sons are you descended from? I am a son of Japheth through Magog. You???

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246b6d No.855624

File: 001f1de72bf396d⋯.jpg (715.81 KB,1920x1080,16:9,Gen10Map2.jpg)

>>855611

this.

the chinks too.

Adamite = Aryan.

period.

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13ffa0 No.855631

>>855282

Doesn't matter, my friend. We're all sons of Adam and, if we put our faith in Jesus, sons of Abraham as well. Cheers.

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ca0101 No.855651

Shem through Eber, because I'm ethnically (though not religiously) Jewish.

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5bfb62 No.855653

>>855285

Whether or not you subscribe to its theology, the Bible has been found to be historically accurate in its entirety. The even to the degree that the geneology of mankind can be traced back to a singular mother.

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705578 No.855724

File: 0b529b2bd37b445⋯.jpg (102.29 KB,720x530,72:53,btw_this_turk_fella_isnt_m….jpg)

Japheth -> Turk ->>> Alash-Khan

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File: 9b94b4547866679⋯.jpg (13.26 KB,416x272,26:17,1603894714_0.jpg)

e174e4 No.854598 [Open thread]

I've stumbled upon a collection of Islamic nasheeds online. They are very beautiful and well-composed, so much so that I can't stop listening to them even though they are not very good for my soul.

What are some similar genres of music from Christian perspective that I can listen too instead? They can be from any culture or era, as long as they are explicitly Christian in nature, and not whiny PC bulls— like 90% of 'religious' music today that's not made by Islamists.

Also, Christian Music General

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6c42e0 No.855524

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

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5536a8 No.855703

>>854598

The Scottish Metric Psalter

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ecda11 No.855707

>>855071

I've noticed this as well. Secular musicians seem to do a better job of extolling heroism and other virtues of Christianity than many Christian musicians, who often just produce recycled pop rock love ballads with Jesus filling in for women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtbbIB776ks

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a88db5 No.855717

File: 0513fc91c095d28⋯.png (2.88 MB,1196x1196,1:1,cover.png)

File: 0513fc91c095d28⋯.png (2.88 MB,1196x1196,1:1,cover.png)

I made a Christian Vaporwave song: https://files.catbox.moe/u5ggsn.mp3 It's called "Jesus is my joy". (I tried uploading the .mp3 directly to 8kun but it wouldn't let me)

I really like Vaporwave and thought it would a pretty cool thing to do a Christian Vaporwave track from a CCM sample. I have way too much Christian music in my HDD, so I just picked one CCM song that sounded good and after two days of doing stuff in Ableton the song was finished. What do you think about this song? Does it suck as vaporwave? Is it good?

I want to do Christian Vaporwave, like Vacation Bible School but something more "pop" and easier to listen to; I would use CCM samples. The genre in general would be something like the song I did, with that 80s jazzy vapor vibe that's nice. What do you think about it? Would you hear it? Do you think it's a good idea to make music like this? Do you think it has a future at all? It would feel like watching televangelists in the 80s at midnight for sure.

CCM is clearly dying forgotten; doing Vaporwave from CCM songs would be a great way to at least spark some interest for it. Christian Vaporwave would be pretty cool tbh.

Have a nice day and God bless you!

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50e617 No.855722

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>855707

Case in point:

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e47759 No.855700 [Open thread]

Do animal abuser face damnation? God gave animal ability to love. Animals must have souls. Animal cruelty a sin?

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File: f53fc4adc2fe69d⋯.png (49.56 KB,1378x362,689:181,matt.png)

c0eafe No.855155 [Open thread]

Peter is not the rock. The Revelation that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God IS the Rock. Jesus did NOT say "That thou art Peter, and upon thee I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it".

Jesus said "That thou art Peter, and upon THIS ROCK I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". The catholics have sadly missed it for more than 1700 years.

"Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste."

"Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder."

With all due respect to catholics but the Precious Rock of christians is their Lord Jesus Christ but the rock of the catholics is the rotting carcass of Peter.

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b6402b No.855269

>>855268

Why was he the rock? Because of his confession of faith. So every believer who confesses participates in that archetype who is Peter. Now I dare say show me a Church Father who excludes either interpretation.

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682299 No.855270

>>855269

Are you reading what I'm saying?

The linked fathers say the rock in question is not Peter. Other fathers cited say the rock was Peter.

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b957c6 No.855681

>>855157

Proving Peter was the rock does not prove papist claims.

You can have a cyprianic interpretation of every bishop holding the office of Peter.

The church fathers on this were on the majority view that either Christ is the rock(Origen, Jerome, Augustine when they actually are exegeting the passage years after they wrote the papist prooftexts of them stating the Peter=rock.) view or Peter's confession is the rock

Just as Petrus/Cephas is derived from Petra/Kepha, so is Peter/Petrus/Kephas built on the Rock/Petra/Kepha. This view is found in Origen, Jerome, Augustine, etc.

I would rather follow the church fathers on this than a church that has been in constant enemity with the scripture's being sufficient for equipping the man of God for every good work

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b957c6 No.855682

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b957c6 No.855683

>>855244

Yeah the wordplay of petra and petrus to signify something more than petrus = petra is attested by church fathers.

Just as petrus is derived from petra, so is Petrus built on the petra which is Christ.

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File: 78a6a12479405b2⋯.jpg (218.94 KB,750x590,75:59,herods_temple_interior_vie….jpg)

a977ae No.855030 [Open thread]

One of the main problems with Protestant exegesis is its use of the Historical-Grammatical method for the scriptures. This is not how the writers of the New Testament would have interpreted the scriptures, especially not in relation to the specific prophecies that Jesus fulfilled. The writers of the New Testament relied on Midrashic interpretations of the OT in relation to Christ, for them the scriptures held deeper levels of meaning that even the original authors may not have been aware of when composing the text. This method of interpretation is called Pesher. This is why, for example, John 19:28-29 says the scripture was "fulfilled" when Christ was offered the holy sponge, it is in reference to Psalm 69:21. A surface level reading of this text demonstrates nothing predictive, yet John speaks of it as being fulfilled in Christ. The OT was interpreted allegorically by the NT writers, as they were simply applying the hermeneutic methods of their day and found that Jesus Christ does indeed fulfill the OT. Jesus is the Old Testament as a human, the entire Old Testament is one big hint for Christ, and many of the Church Fathers employed this type of exegesis to scripture. This also why Catholic/Orthodox and Protestant debates often talk past each other, they are applying completely different methods of exegesis. Catholic/Orthodox use the more ancient method, whereas Protestantism relies on a newer more rationalistic approach to scripture which ends up negating much of what Christ does in the New Testament. It's also why, for example, Catholics and Orthodox consider Mary as a New Eve or Ark of the Covenant for example, they are employing this ancient method of Midrashic interpretation and imbuing the text with great meaning and significance and it is what the NT writers were doing in this first place, the Catholic/Orthodox method is just a continuation of this.

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60fc9f No.855031

File: cb051cc72c095a3⋯.png (62.65 KB,658x259,94:37,56e037902.png)

Two things 1) Its not a strength to be comparing yourself to the midrash 2) "Typologies" are not the same thing as gnostic oral traditions nullifying the text as the midrash and talmud does, and furthermore Christians actually do believe in typologies without all that kind of stuff. Christ himself is and is represented by the ark of the covenant, for example. Comp. John 20:12 with Psalm 80:1 and 99:1. Matthew 2:15 shows us the type of Hosea 11:1. Matthew 2:18 gives us the type of Jeremiah 31:15. Matthew 2:23 contains the type of Isaiah 11:1. Hebrews 10:5 presents the type of Psalm 40:6. Etc.

None of that implies any kind of gnostic style of thought like pic related, or numerology, or gnostic gospels, etc.

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8d32f8 No.855480

>>855030

In other words Catholics and Orthodox spend their energy contemplating the meaning of the scriptures as a whole rather than autistically kvetching about individual words and punctuation.

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3d1121 No.855680

>>855030

cringe.

One look at the medieval scholastics(Aquinas is the biggest example) will disprove your view

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015d72 No.855712

>main problems with Protestant exegesis

ok im reading

>New Testament relied on Midrash

stopped reading

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File: 99eb43eef607c69⋯.webm (7.09 MB,352x264,4:3,Inquisition.webm)

b6b8e5 No.855670 [Open thread]

I like this webm. But I have no idea who this man is. Where can I find more videos of him?

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298488 No.855679

That's Bishop Richard Williamson. You can find many of his sermons and interviews on YouTube.

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b6b8e5 No.855691

>>855679

Thank you, Anon. I really appreciate it.

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ac0323 No.855583 [Open thread]

What Denomination has the Original bible? The Protestants have 66 books, the Eastern Orthodox have 79 and the Catholics have 73.

Did the Orthodox put together the first bible? And if yes why did the Protestants and catholics remove books if the book of revelations Chapter 22:18-19 says not too. And if the Protestants use the Orginal bible why did the Orthodox and Catholics add unto it if it says in revelations 22:18-19 says not to add unto the bible.

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a03ae6 No.855639

>>855630

73

"It [the Roman Church] professes that one and the same God is the author of the old and the new Testament — that is, the law and the prophets, and the gospel — since the saints of both testaments spoke under the inspiration of the same Spirit. It accepts and venerates their books, whose titles are as follows.

Five books of Moses, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy; Joshua, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, Esdras, Nehemiah, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Job, Psalms of David, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaiah, Jeremiah [Lamentations being part of it], Baruch, Ezechiel, Daniel; the twelve minor prophets, namely Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi; two books of the Maccabees; the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John; fourteen letters of Paul, to the Romans, two to the Corinthians, to the Galatians, to the Ephesians, to the Philippians, two to the Thessalonians, to the Colossians, two to Timothy, to Titus, to Philemon, to the Hebrews; two letters of Peter, three of John, one of James, one of Jude; Acts of the Apostles; Apocalypse of John."

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039302 No.855662

File: c4318b46c53ecb4⋯.jpg (274.69 KB,1000x1000,1:1,eusebius.jpg)

>>855583

Whatever Eusebius told in his church history:

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/250103.html

The Old Testament

"Chapter 10. The Manner in which Josephus mentions the Divine Books.

1. We have not, therefore, a multitude of books disagreeing and conflicting with one another; but we have only twenty-two, which contain the record of all time and are justly held to be divine.

2. Of these, five are by Moses, and contain the laws and the tradition respecting the origin of man, and continue the history down to his own death. This period embraces nearly three thousand years.

3. From the death of Moses to the death of Artaxerxes, who succeeded Xerxes as king of Persia, the prophets that followed Moses wrote the history of their own times in thirteen books. The other four books contain hymns to God, and precepts for the regulation of the life of men.

4. From the time of Artaxerxes to our own day all the events have been recorded, but the accounts are not worthy of the same confidence that we repose in those which preceded them, because there has not been during this time an exact succession of prophets.

5. How much we are attached to our own writings is shown plainly by our treatment of them. For although so great a period has already passed by, no one has ventured either to add to or to take from them, but it is inbred in all Jews from their very birth to regard them as the teachings of God, and to abide by them, and, if necessary, cheerfully to die for them.

These remarks of the historian I have thought might advantageously be introduced in this connection."

New Testament:

"Chapter 25. The Divine Scriptures that are accepted and those thaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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de074e No.855667

File: 67ae26b71e2b7a8⋯.jpg (20.5 KB,323x169,323:169,Raised_Nun_in_Judges_18_30.jpg)

>>855662

Missing four major prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel), twelve minor prophets and the book of Lamentations.

This shouldn't be that hard, to be honest. No one disputes the authenticity of the books of Revelation, James, Jude, 2 Peter, 2 or 3 John. Why not at least list out the epistles of Paul? Because otherwise, people will dispute the writer of the epistle to the Hebrews.

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268cd2 No.855677

>>855667

The 22 book canon does include the prophets…

Look at the Tanakh's canon ordering, some books are joined to others like all the 12 minor prophets are joined to one book

(Ruth was joined to Judges and Lamentations to Jeremiah)

The NT Canon was disputed in the early church as Eusebius has said.

However that does not mean one should wholly remove the antilegomena, but keep it in a lower level than the homologomena.

Just like what Luther did in his bible..

(The book of Hebrews is also in the antilegomena. Eusebius says that the Church of Rome did not accept it as they believed it wasn't written by Paul)

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268cd2 No.855678

>>855629

No it was not..

56% of the members of the council of trent opposed making the Florentine canon an article of the faith and the anathema against those who don't

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9474de No.855554 [Open thread]

Whats the deal with christians being anti-vaxxers? Is it very christian to see more people die from the disease or develop long lasting complications?

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a942be No.855582

>>855575

No we shouldn't "Let God kill you". Instead we should Stop aborting children.

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fc2146 No.855597

>>855575

>>855577

Shills be gone

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2b3e24 No.855602

>>855554

What's the deal with you having down syndrome. Go drink some bleach, you winnie the pooh retard.

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394eab No.855606

>>855564

Only based answer. Wearing a mask and getting the jab shows that Satan is your daddy.

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ec0a17 No.855673

>>855554

Dog food gets tested for longer periods than this gene therapy (not "vaccine"). Refusing it has nothing to do with me being Christian. It's just sensible. The only Christian element in my choice here is that I'm dead to the world. You are unable to break me with pain or tempt me with bribes.

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a5fe8a No.855294 [Open thread]

do protestants visit eachothers churches when they can't go to one of their own denomination, what do other protestants think of eachother? Catholics can go to any liturgy by a 'validly' ordain priest including orthodox liturgy, but its not obligatory so to speak.

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ad9dbc No.855590

>>855581

>protestants are a myriad of denoms that splinter

>These doctrines in action produce the said splintering.

2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, all evil speakings

2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

There was never a splinter to begin with. Christians are individuals and the church is spiritual - not entities ran like corporations. Decentralization is an ancient concept. Like McDonalds, the Roman Catholic Church will be around forever. But while many people hate McDonalds, we all like hamburgers. Faith isn't in a congregation's politiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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978e50 No.855591

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>>855590

Absolutely terrible analogy. There is one truth. One Lord, one faith, one baptism. And there is absolutely no way that this one truth would lead one person to join a different denomination, anymore than it would lead one person to join a different religion from another altogether. The one truth would not lead different people to different conclusions. That is not the true God.

Bad doctrine is not a matter of dislike. It is the difference between life and death, between false prophets and true servants of God. A good tree cannot bring forth corrupt fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

2 Corinthians 6:

>14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

>15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

>16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Amen

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ad9dbc No.855592

>>855591

Those verses don't support theological corporate personhood. God isn't the Vatican, or McDonalds or Burger King sorry to break it to you. A denomination doesn't hold beliefs, a Christian does.

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978e50 No.855593

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>>855592

>theological corporate personhood.

I have no idea what this means. What I do know is that if you are associating with bad doctrine, then you are clearly in violation of the command to "mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them." This is what the Bible says in Romans 16:17.

Furthermore, in 1 Timothy 6, Paul the apostle writes:

>3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

>4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

>5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

So, doctrine is not a matter of like versus dislike. It is a matter of obeying the truth or not. Hebrews 10:38-39 says, "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul."

So again, what communion hath light with darkness? what concord hath Christ with Belial? what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? The answer is none. The truth is not a matter of preference. It is the difference between life and death. As the Lord says in his word, "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." So then those who comprise and lead a false group, that teaches bad doctrine, are not just another flavor of ice cream - as according to your analogy. That is such a terrible analogy I have no words to describe how far off the mark it is.

The church is to be separate from false prophets and pure. We do not maintain communion with the world. Like James said in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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83e873 No.855663

>>855294

They are our brothers and sisters in Christ

I hold to the Lutheran confessions and the Anglican Book of Common Prayer and attend a historically Anglican church that separated from Canterbury and has unity with other Protestant groups as our Denomination was formed by the mutual agreements of the Protestants in my region.

I will attend a high church service if present, but am ok with low-church if the need arises badly

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24692b No.853370 [Open thread]

Tell me literally 1 (one) good thing he did. I'll wait.

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8cc917 No.855345

>>853581

Not him, but he was obviously joking, however there is some truth to what he says.

I interact with a lot of protestants, and when we get into a discussion about what laws they ought to follow, they always say that the "law" has been fulfilled, meaning it is null and void, and by grace alone are we saved.

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c470fc No.855518

>>853398

OMG a Unitarian Credobaptist with a big mouth! Let's forget about making him a Persona Non Grata. Let's arrest him while he's passing by, jail him for 7 years by a legal assumbly that the citizens of Geneva often commit suicide to avoid facing, and slow cook him in green wood for it!

>>853545

Says the ones who excommunicated and made war with the rest of the Pentarchy for wanting a seat of power instead of the seat of honor.

>>853375

He was a masterful organizer. Built Geneza's moral law system with a married church/state. 3 days's jail time for smiling while at a baptism. Those who liked him, loved him. Those who didn't, hated him, and were hated by him. City became a paranoid 1984 tattle-tale town. He believed (like many) that vows make the marriage, not the whole "one-flesh" principle, so "pre-marital" sex was a death penalty.

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ebfa72 No.855519

>>855518

I am a Trinitarian Credobaptist who represents the historical position of holding to the New Testament, and while the unitarian is wrong, so is the state church for giving him a less harsh punishment than God surely would have given him, assuming he had been unrepentant.

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6912cd No.855655

>>853466

>Old Testament is non-canon bro

…and here I was thinking Marcionism had been extinct for 1500+ years.

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408593 No.855658

>>855518

>He believed (like many) that vows make the marriage, not the whole "one-flesh" principle, so "pre-marital" sex was a death penalty.

Stop fornicating and repent

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c81ac5 No.855636 [Open thread]

Angels are evil, do NOT trust those bastards. They are everywhere, the world is teeming with these winnie the poohers and they won't go away. They are honestly so annoying. They will try to appear good but trust me, those annoying little winnie the poohers are trying to deceive you. Most angels just want to have sex with our women or teach us magical sorceries. They also literally administer the fate given to us by the seven heavenly bodies. Trust me, when Jesus descended through the several heavenly spheres he had to disguise himself multiple times in order to evade detection. Thankfully he made it through the celestial spheres past all those winnie the pooh archons and powers and principalities and made it to the earthly realm. If you place your trust in Christ he can and will free you from the influence of fate. Ok guys? Good. Just DO NOT TRUST THE ANGELS! They will do anything… ANYTHING to keep you under the influence of fate. Just the other day, there I was eating some McDonalds after work just minding my own winnie the pooh buisness right, and then all of a sudden an angel comes along and is all like attempting to tell me another gospel like he was some kind of prophet or some s- and I just told him to winnie the pooh off with his bulls-. That mother winnie the pooher tried to strangle me but with the power of Christ I was able to overcome him and he got scared and left lol. Ok guys. Just watch out for the angels. Thanks.

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42e85c No.855654

I believe you're talking about demons, yes they're assholes. Not sure what you're talking about with the 7 heavenly bodies though because God is Triune.

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2278bb No.855627 [Open thread]

lol saw this, had to post it, wanna see how mad the ifbs on here get lololol

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a97ca9 No.855649

>>855627

Very interesting video, but I'm doubtful you will get any genuine responses.

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34562e No.855650

I posted a genuine response to his youtube video raising questions on some of his points, but it looks like it was auto-filtered and the video owner has not approved it as of two days later.

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