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104d26 No.856498 [Open thread]

Wayne Dyer claims to be inspired by various books, including the Gospels, and talks about praying with intention to make your prayers come true.

Wayne Dyer puts a lot of emphasis on these verses:

>12Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever believes in Me will also do the works that I am doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

>13And I will do whatever you ask in My name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

>14If you ask Me for anything in My name, I will do it.

(John Ch. 14)

Wayne Dyer encouraged his audiences to ask for anything they wanted, without stopping to ask whether what they wanted agreed with the traditional Christian idea of asking for appropriate things.

However, there is also a story from John Ch. 4:

>16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

>17 “I have no husband,” she replied.

>Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband.

>18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

So it looks like Jesus disapproved of remarriage after divorce. More to the point, Jesus disapproved of lots of different behaviors, but I can't think of a lot of good examples.

So Jesus said to ask him for anything in prayer in his name, but also Jesus didn't approve of some goals (like having five husbands and then shacking up with yet another man). So if a woman prays to God in Jesus' name for help in abandoning five husbands and then getting yet another man, presumably Jesus would not approve. Similarly, if a money-changer in the Temple asked God for help in cheating the faiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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b325a1 No.856490 [Open thread]

I am currently reading "The kingdom of god is within you" by Leo Tolstoi and I am very puzzled by the "extremist" view he asserts.

Although I totally agree that we ought not to provoke war or having disproportionate answer against aggression or violence, I do not get the point on completely giving up on self-defence. In our times, it would just being end up to being erased by some other cultures/religions.To make his point, he often invokes martyrdom but to me it really looks like suicide. For example, a knife-wielder begins a killing spree and I have an oppotunity to stop him. Do you really think he will stop if I face him telling him what he is doing is bad ? Should I flee and let my fellow people die because of the greater good and it was just their time ? It seems very odd to me.

Also, he also defends the stance that we should not ask for government help (by having recourse to authorities or laws). Considering the world as it is, it is just nearly impossible because the government knows you exist. I could go into the the mountain and starve to death or become a savage but it also looks like suicide to me, which is a terrible thing to the eye of god.

At the end, it seems contradictory to live in this world and having no involvement in it whatsoever because it seems to end by a passive form of suicide. On one hand god created us to live within this world but on the other hand we should do nothing in it and let it rot ? Maybe I missed something, if anyone can enlight me on these subject, I would be very grateful.

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4a8d2f No.856493

>>856490

>it would just being end up to being erased by some other cultures/religions.

God doesn't need you. In all honesty, you need to let this sink in before anything else. He doesn't need you. Your efforts mean nothing. He conquered the Roman Empire from the catacombs of humble martyrs. He also preserved the Church in Europe by the efforts of humble believers and monks, during a time of barbarians in the dark ages. And in Tolstoy's case (Russia), the Church thrived there despite all that the Bolshevik's threw at it. Or the Ottoman's previously did to the Greeks. And they were all following the example of Christ himself: The rightful King of the universe, who humbled himself and died on a cross, and bore humiliating torture and insult that were beneath him.

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4a8d2f No.856494

"Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also." - John 15:20

And anyone who presumes to be greater than the Master, that they're the exception, that they have a better way than their own King, that they should not endure what he did, is not actually following Christ. And even if we're not called to directly be martyrs, every Christian is still called to be a martyr in their heart. To always prepared to for this final test, if necessary.

"Then Jesus said to His disciples, 'If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Matthew 16:24-26

Everything a Christian is called to do is a denial of self. If not literal death at the hands of enemies, it's still a call to literally throw your life away in other ways. We must give it all up to God. Be it one's relationships or leaving old notions of worldly success in the garbage.

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1ee5cc No.856495

I couldn't make it passed the part where he says that the governments are not ordained by God which goes against scripture. There has got to be a better way for Christian Anarchism to exist without losing the Christian part.

The part about no resistance to evil is actually biblical but taken to an extreme, it's also a very hard passage to follow.

>Matthew 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

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77402b No.856497

Check out "Jesus and Non-Violence: A Third Way"

Good take on the "turn the other cheek" and the other two things mentioned at the same time. The Jews would have understood these parables slightly differently than mere passivism.

I'm wrestling with the same things currently. For instance wives are supposed to submit to their husbands "in everything". But every Christian I talk to has a caveat for when a husband goes "too far" and the wife is justified in rebelling against that authority.

I have a ton of trouble separating laws that are just plain inconvenient and… frankly stupid, the sheer number of them is crazy in itself… versus laws that are demonstrably ungodly.

Another fun book is "Everything I want to do is illegal" I'm reading now.

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1077fe No.856434 [Open thread]

Hello, I just left a church service of a church I was very enthusiastic to try because the led prayer that I was engaged in went from being merely overly political to overtly blasphemous, and I could not stay in good conscience. I feel very rude for leaving of course, and did not want to be contentious, but my heart wouldn't let me stay.

Could more seasoned Christians than me please provide relevant Bible passages related to:

- Wishing for certain worldly/political outcomes in a church prayer

- Participating in a (group) prayer when one actually disagrees with what is being said

- Obeying or disobeying worldly governments, especially when one's bodily integrity/health is at stake?

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37bd24 No.856440

>>856434

>- Wishing for certain worldly/political outcomes in a church prayer

If those outcomes lead to something of significance like saving lives from destruction, I don't see why not. I can see situations where this is a perfectly reasonable thing to pray for.

>- Participating in a (group) prayer when one actually disagrees with what is being said

God knows what you personally are praying for. He knows whether or not you agree with something, and prayer is addressed directly to God. So that should eliminate any problems. However, I will also say if someone said something that you disagreed with for personal reasons, it may or may not be appropriate to bring that up to them, depends on what it is. If someone said something doctrinally incorrect, then you will probably want to have a conversation about it afterward to see whether they have a scriptural basis for what they said, if it seems like it contradicts something in Scripture. If someone said something extremely ridiculous, which is incredibly unlikely, we can first pray for God to enlighten that person and forgive them, while also being bold to assert the truth of God's word that anyone might be denying or to rebuke the untruth that anyone might be bringing up.

>- Obeying or disobeying worldly governments, especially when one's bodily integrity/health is at stake?

Well, Romans 13 tells us that the "higher powers" are put in place for God's reasons, which we as sinful men may not understand at times. Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, once had a conversation with Pilate that went like this:

>Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?

>Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above:

- John 19:10-11

And so, according to Romans 13 we find that these "higher powers" still have God above them, and He is able to intervene at any time to save those who Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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dbb4cc No.856443

>>856439

>Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God:

The scriptures aren't pithy proverbs. If you're going to quote it, quote it in context, as this anon did: >>856440

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720d2d No.856487

>>856440

>If those outcomes lead to something of significance like saving lives from destruction, I don't see why not. I can see situations where this is a perfectly reasonable thing to pray for.

This is not Christian doctrine. Jesus actually tells us how to pray and specifically what to pray for and arguably the exact words we should use.

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37bd24 No.856491

>>856487

>I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

>For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

>For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

>Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

- 1 Timothy 2:1-4

>Pray without ceasing.

>In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

- 1 Thessalonians 5:17-18

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720d2d No.856492

>>856491

Jesus tells us specifically how to pray in Matthew 6. "After this manner therefore pray ye: [….]"

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b530ba No.856444 [Open thread]

hi christians i want to share to you this video what they dont tell you about vaccines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d36CbG7AbNE

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b530ba No.856447

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b8d4c7 No.856488

>>856444

is this about MMR vaccines or just specifically COVID vaccines?

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2a889a No.853959 [Open thread]

99% of atheists I've met have been stupid in why they oppose religion, such as saying "Greek philosophy are the only valid beliefs!" and "We need to move on and forget about religion it's holding us back!", why are these people such low functioning autists?

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078c69 No.856452

>>853959

deism > atheism > theism

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914b03 No.856455

>>856452

Deism or atheism doesn't heal the sick, cast out demons, or open the heavens and let you hear the chants of angels. It won't even mend the broken-hearted.

This is not a matter of reason or ideology, but Revelation and Power. And the only thing that deists and atheists tell me about themselves is that they've been abandoned. God doesn't even care enough about them to work amongst them. So you're left to yourselves to make sense of the world, instead of having any real experiences.

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3d691f No.856468

>>856455

>cast out demons

Yeah that's interesting. Tell me how a Christian can determine who is demonically posessed? I tried to find it in the Bible, but that's never described.

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914b03 No.856472

>>856468

Those who are possessed themselves by the Holy Spirit (or a sacred space occupied by the Holy Spirit) are a demon's natural enemies. The holy and demonic can not be in the same room without conflict. This isn't a matter of determination so much as it is simply war itself. It's automatic. Conversely, those who follow Christ will be delighted at the presence of others with the Holy Spirit. Just as even John the Baptist as a baby stirred in his mother's belly at the greeting of the Virgin Mary. Again, this is not a matter of determination so much it is love itself. It's automatic.

How have you not read this in the scriptures? Every demon cried out in the presence of Christ or his emissaries. Even those who were not even connected to them directly.

>"Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us.”

>But Jesus said to him, “Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side.” - Luke 9:49-50

>

In terms of direct determination of evil, that is the gift of discernment pertaining to falsehoods and false prophecies. It's far more insidious than the madness of demons. And it isn't necessarily (or at least directly) demonic. Man is evil in his own way. And determining such things is a separate gift. Something all of the Apostles prayed that Christians would strive for, but it isn't always the case that they do.

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3d691f No.856473

>>856472

>The holy and demonic can not be in the same room without conflict.

Chapter and verse please.

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a30dd2 No.856464 [Open thread]

Does anyone here pray the Auxilium Christianorum, do you recommend it?

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30782b No.856448 [Open thread]

We need to bring back proper "sex education" about them: Which includes a heavy dose of shame and ridicule.

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8aec4f No.855799 [Open thread]

hi christians do you like epic music or cinematic music?

here some music from Scott Buckley free copyright :his youtube channel:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvz0avKwSsM

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7cf35d No.855805

>>855799

This is not the cancer I usually am suggested to listen to on other sites. This is actually pretty nice.

All I will say about it is that it just goes do-do Do-Do DO-DO and that's pretty much it with little techno verbs thrown in. Not bad, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBatxZ90wag

Even "Omega" God worship should sound like the sun, like this. Btw when the Magas put it to someone like Trump it's pretty amazing, like watching old home classic movies we used to watch growing up.

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7cf35d No.855806

>>855805

Whereas Superman theme song is more like

>do do-do-do-do DO-Do-do do do-do-do-do SUPER-MAN!

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c62239 No.855816

>>855805

man Scott Buckley is a independent composer is music is free

the link that you give me with superman sountrack that is hollywood movie genre soundtrack and i am not fan of hollywood because of the coruption

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8cc545 No.856433

wow nice .. ..

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f7357c No.856446

>>855805

*Man and

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50800d No.856368 [Open thread]

Please gather around, I have an important announcement to make.

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3c4909 No.856373

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Thus spake anon…

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d6c39c No.856427

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fd524b No.856328 [Open thread]

>“The dogma that all the governments of the world are approvingly ordained of God, and that the powers that be in the United States, in Russia, in Turkey, are in accordance with his will, is no less absurd than impious. It makes the impartial Author of our existence unequal and tyrannical. It cannot be affirmed that the powers that be in any nation are actuated by the spirit or guided by the example of Christ in the treatment of enemies; therefore they cannot be agreeable to the will of God, and therefore their overthrow by a spiritual regeneration of their subjects is inevitable.

>Romans 13:1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God. 2Consequently, whoever resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

>3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer.

>5Therefore it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God’s servants, who devote themselves to their work. 7Pay everyone what you owe him: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.

>Luke 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

Now obviously Tolstoy is going against scripture by saying that the governments of the world are not ordained by God, but is he right? In Biblical times the Roman government was not only pagan but viciously anti-christian. The governments of toady are also anti-chrisian legalizing gay marriage to appeal to secular liberals. So i believe that there is some truth to the governments not being ordained by God. Does this contradict scriPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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4e6cfb No.856411

bump

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fa5f92 No.856416

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>>856411

Being civil is basically the requirement of God's people. But there is also a time for civil disobedience as well. Such as St. Peter and the Apostles telling the High Priest that they will refuse to stop talking about Jesus. They were still civil and a harm to no one.

In rare cases, there is perhaps a time for active disobedience as well, such as Elijah's case, as I mentioned above. He didn't just merely disobey Jezebel. He came back with a vengeance and beheaded all the priests of Baal. He never got close to Jezebel though. He passed his mantle to Elisha. Elisha later anointed a new king, Jehu, who restored a true order worth obeying. And as Jehu finally broke through the royal army and came into her palace, Jezebel got dolled up and tried to look seductive as Jehu approached. It had no effect on him, and zero concern that she was still the "Queen" in some respect. He commanded her own servants to toss her out the window. To her surprise, they obeyed. There her corpse was left to be eaten by dogs, as Elijah prophesied would happen to her long before.

May that be the end of all "State" officials who go against the Lord and his prophets.

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574918 No.856422

>>856328

Simply because a geopolitical entity is not Christian doesn't necessarily mean that it is not ordained by God. For example, when the Israelites were conquered by the Babylonians, God clearly intended for the Babylonians to rule the Israelites as punishment for their faithlessness. The Babylonian kings were ordained by God despite the fact that they worshipped false gods.

I believe that the current regime in the USA is a punishment sent on the Christians living here for tolerating Godlessness in our country. However that doesn't mean we can never resist authority, in fact there could come a time when our faith requires us to resist the authorities. I believe that if Christians were to attempt a revolution to create a wholly Christian nation, God would grant us the strength needed to succeed because the new authority we would replace it with would also be ordained by God.

TL;DR governments are ordained by God, but uprisings can also be ordained by God.

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1691ff No.856424

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>>856422

>I believe that the current regime in the USA is a punishment sent on the Christians living here for tolerating Godlessness in our country.

I think more specifically, it's for giving heed to and for transacting with Judaism. Any deal with them is a corrupt deal, a wicked transaction. A lot of corrupt theology has seeped into churches in the form of hyper-dispensational or zionist thought, which has led directly to the loss of the power of God in many churches; pretty soon because of this, more people stop reading the Bible or taking it seriously, and then there is a lack of understanding of even the most basic truths. This very drastic trend that we see today seems to align with the description of a great falling away, although if it is THE great falling away we shall see in due time.

As it says in Hebrews, "For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry."

To be perfectly fair, the U.S. was built on a solidly Biblical basis. Over a hundred years before the Constitution was ever written, you have the documents of some of the colonial founders who came here with a will to escape the corrupt state church system (which serious study of history shows was heavily judaized by that time—a process that has eventually spread to the US in the 20th century, with Hollywood, which is run by "them", its influences, and so on). The colonial founders were well aware of this, and founded this country on an unprecedented Biblical basis. As Lincoln, the 16th President once said, this is a nation "conceived in liberty." It is founded on the proposition that all men are created equal, rather than some kind of big brother bureaucracy that supports "them" and forces people to be "equal" (i.e. "equity") rather than truly placing them on a level playing field.

Yes, the colonial founders knew what was up with that corrupt system. One of the charters was originally proposed to with the following statement, (which is still inscribed on the state house of Providence in Rhode Island even today,) and reads like this:

"That they might be permitted to hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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efafd1 No.856425

>>856422

I guess that makes sense, everything is done or permitted by God.

>I believe that the current regime in the USA is a punishment sent on the Christians living here for tolerating Godlessness in our country.

Isn't it Christian to respect the freewill of non-believers? God doesn't force his creation to love him.

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6121a8 No.856362 [Open thread]

It started well before that. Modernism and WW1 broke men. They stopped caring about much of anything. And women became whores (flappers) in these days too.

>Times have changed

And we've often rewound the clock

Since the Puritans got a shock

When they landed on Plymouth Rock

If today, any shock they should try to stand

Steada' landing on Plymouth Rock

Plymouth Rock would land on them

-Cole Porter, "Anything Goes"

>“Ours was a generation grown up to find all gods dead, all wars fought, all faiths in man shaken"

- F Scott Fitzgerald

Another writer, hanging out in Paris, hated his acquaintances however. He could see the soullessness.

>"They're wraiths, all of them. They aren't people. God knows what they've done with their realities.”

- Robert McAlmon

Seems he took the cynic's route. Tolkien and CS Lewis channeled it better.

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7bf723 No.856365

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Part of this is misconception of the past, see Ecclesiastes 7:10

>10 Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not inquire wisely concerning this.

Another part is the fact that the latter days actually are upon us. However, it's not like there has ever been a "golden age" since the time of the fall in Genesis chapter 3. We just choose to focus on what seemed to be better about those times while missing the larger picture, that there is no new thing under the sun. Not until the Savior's return, to right everything that is wrong, will this be resolved. Armed with knowledge of the coming glory of God, we are to be a light in the world (Matthew 5:16) rather than being cynical, as it says in 2 Peter,

>3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

>4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

>5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

>6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

>7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

>8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

>9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

>10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

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f97397 No.856387

>>856362

The wages of sin is death. The more sins we tolerate, the closer to death we draw.

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0d6b47 No.856418

>>856362

I could be mistaken, but in those days people were distraught after ww1 as they saw mass casualties, the worst of what mankind had to offer, and many had ptsd after the war with little support. Many saw this suffering and turned to nihilism and that type of thinking, which pushed them farther from God. Combine this with prohibition and the ensuing culture that came with it in the 20’s, as well as the rise of gangsters and the mafia, and America started to seem overtly hedonistic and ungodly. Unfortunately in the past 15 years or so the west seems to be once again approaching that kind of degeneracy, just with a new type of polish on it, if you will.

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6121a8 No.856420

>>856418

I believe you're right, but it's their own fault. There's nothing more that I despise than people who blame God for things they themselves did. He didn't create these wars or dismantle the world order or peace they enjoyed previously. They did.

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aaeb0a No.856014 [Open thread]

Messages from Pastor Peter J. Peters! Proclaiming the true biblical teachings of Christ!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXoPt6WbilCGkTkVYonQzsQ/videos

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99ae40 No.856419

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0d65ea No.856405 [Open thread]

Do you remember christians? when TV news or facebook,twitter,youtube blame christians deleted videos or accounts or religious people with conspiracy etc about covid restriction and passport ID vaccine mandatory in december 2020?? when covid started TV NEWS ATTACK christians with conspiracy about passport ID and vaccines

Right now 2021 EU countriesforce vaccines and passport id to workers etc to be mandatory In France, Italy, Australia ,also America New York because of Delta Variant this is the Beginning no more freedom MARTIAL LAW WAS STARTED no more conspiracy it was true

From tv news links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui9jDXnWF5U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_F7UvmZLxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsB5yymbKXc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui9jDXnWF5U

People need to wake up because the evil want us slave and sleep and dead they push propaganda on tv news they dont like God and Jesus Christ and Holy Bible we are in Spiritual war they dont like christians or the word of God

The path for freedom peace and true light and love faith is through God and Jesus Christ for salvation

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31fcea No.856406

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31fcea No.856408

is green pass passport ID and vaccines Mark of beast??!! sometimes i ask myself in those times

i think people need to wake up and study the Holy Bible KJV

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31fcea No.856409

i think people need to wake up and study the Holy Bible KJV with Gematria calculator

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31fcea No.856410

i think people need to wake up and study the Holy Bible KJV with Gematria calculator

https://www.gematrix.org/

sorry for double post

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3af71c No.856402 [Open thread]

Can you enlighten me on occult/fringe organizations inside Roman Catholic Church?

Speaking of, if hypothetically Vatican got their hands on ancient magic technologies/devices/rituals and then wiped off all the competition during Dark Ages, which branch would employ it? Jesuits?

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166233 No.856404

>>856402

I'm not even a Catholic, but I would tell you that I know firsthand that some Mexican communities have twisted the Church's symbols to their own end. Some of may look Catholic on a superficial level, but some are practicing Santeria. Not Christianity. Same goes with some Black churches in the American South, who kept hidden Hoodoo beliefs they carried over from Africa even later on in church circles (Hoodoo.. not Voodoo. People sometimes get these confused). You could say this for many other cultures too. Some Western Europeans kept cultic ideas from Nordic or Celt culture too.

This is why I've never been impressed by "Christendom" or care a thing about it's downfall. There are great things, no doubt, but some of it was not true mission work.. but conducted by force and coercion or merely the conversion of a King, who then required all of his subjects to follow him. All this accomplished was a paganism that hid in the underground, sometimes using Christian symbols to avoid authorities. Conversion wasn't always a sincere, widespread conversion such as you saw in Greece and Mesopotamia. Those Greek churches planted by the Apostles didn't like the old ways - and distanced themselves from old Greek ways of thinking. Gnostics, for example, were an old trapping from Pythagorean and Mithraic mystery cults. But the early Church combatted them. They didn't support them. The early church also pronounced anathemas on Platonism in the seventh council. This is Christianity done from the heart, and it didn't happen everywhere.

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f7edcd No.856396 [Open thread]

Hey, new to this board but have been Christian all my life. I was wondering if any of you have cool Christian artifacts or other interesting things you look at that validates the faith?

I bought a set of 5 Widow's Mites (pic related) on eBay for like $11 about a year ago. Sweet, right? They were nice to have, I put 4 in a small safe and kept one in my wallet. One day when I was at work I lost my wallet, and went home thinking it was gone forever. I was bummed out, because it was one of my favorite things I owned. I also had about 60 bucks in the wallet. As my dad and I were looking through the washing machine trying to find it (just incase I accidentally forgot it at home somewhere all along), my aunt knocks on the door. It turns out she found the wallet in the parking lot I must have dropped it in. The money was all gone, but the Widow's Mite was still there, though the plastic case had shattered (and before anyone accuses her of stealing the money, she actually gave me $60 of her own because she felt bad). Right after that happens, my dad gets a call from the hospital that my mom's insanely rare type of cancer entered remission. That was probably the happiest night of my life, and I still have the shattered case Widow's Mite.

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