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7850c8 No.837722 [View All]

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Threads

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000000 No.850669

So on the subject of the ruling elite and their satanic ways, would they be as elite if their money was removed from them? If they didn't have money they wouldn't get away with their evil acts. Unless you have an example of influential and poor satanists.

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88de5d No.850670

>>849066

What is programmed into you by the world cannot be undone but through God. Call upon Him for healing and start reading His word. God is the cure for all worldly unrighteousness. Pornography is the work of Satan, and it's particularly dangerous in this day and age. Porn is a perversion of a divine gift meant for married couples and should not be viewed, thought about, or sought after unless in the proper context. It is adultery, male or female. Read the Word and pray for help. Humble yourself and realize you can't do anything without Him.

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000000 No.850671

>>850670

I do have a porn problem, but i have been reading the bible, I'm still on the old testament. I pray every night and at every meal.

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88de5d No.850672

>>846891

>>846881

Anyone who looks on a woman with lust in their heart has already committed adultery with her. Desire is not right outside of marriage, but it is better to marry than to burn with passion. However, most people can control their lust. Pray and submit yourself to God.

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000000 No.850673

>>850671

>>850670

oh wow, i though you replied to my second post lol whoops, not that anon.

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88de5d No.850674

>>850671

Please, please, PLEASE read the New Testament first. I am BEGGING you. The Old Testament is very important, because it is ALL divine writing, BUT, the fact is, the New Testament is the most pertinent to your salvation. The New Testament is the most important part of the Christian bible. The Old Testament is essentially there to provide proof of the New Testament Savior, Jesus Christ, through confirmation of lineage and prophecy mostly. This is why the New Testament is so often referred to as the good news! The Jewish Old Testament law is dead, because we have received a savior as an ultimate, FINAL sacrifice for ALL sins. The Old Testament shows to us that we are sinful creatures and cannot attain salvation by ourselves. It is only through the Son, Jesus Christ, that we can achieve eternal life. We no longer have to give sacrifices, or stone people, because Jesus effectively suffered all of that for us, for everyone, for all eternity. Read the New Testament anon.

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000000 No.850675

>>850674

I was told by my father that there is something special about reading the bible cover to cover, but i'll take your advice seriously and read the NT first.

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88de5d No.850676

>>841361

There's actually a really cool collection of about 4 books where Jesus Christ himself calls out Jews, but you don't want to see that because you don't actually care about the spiritual hypocrisy of the Jews, you'd rather be racist and hateful and propagate right-wing conspiracy because all of this aligns with your political identity and furthers it. We should be seeking to please God. Stop seeking out reasons to be angry. I used to do that, and still do occasionally, but I realize it's not good for me, and it's not what God wants me to do. I'm not going to argue any more of this, but please, read scripture. I don't mean to patronize you, but there are better things we can do as Christians than affirm worldly political views by perverting the message of God.

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88de5d No.850677

>>850675

I don't doubt that there is something special, and I would recommend that to you after you've digested the Gospel, but the fact is, nobody knows the day or the hour in which Christ will come. Jesus, through parable, calls for us to be ready at any given time, which means making sure that we've truly understood His word. Salvation lies with Jesus, not in the old Jewish law, which is why it's so so important to read the New Testament before anything else. Secure your salvation first by putting your faith in the Lord, so that you know you will have eternal life. Then you can discover everything else God has for you.

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000000 No.850678

>>850677

Okay, i'll read the OT after reading the NT first.

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67f574 No.850683

>>850668

A lot of things in the Old Testament hold true today and represent things that will always be true.

Yes, some of the things especially about Moses' law (the ritual and civil law parts) are fulfilled in a better way now that Christ has come. Not that they were abolished but that they were/are fulfilled because they meant to signify what Christ would be doing. But even those still often represent things that are still true to this day. Like Paul said, the Law was a schoolmaster meant to bring them to Christ. I like looking through the law and seeing principles that still hold true today. I like when I see more foreshadowing that wasn't there before. I am more sure now than I have been before that God can use his word to teach us. It is not limited to those things you or I can imagine. But I should say, the civil law, for one while it is not binding or obligatory - it only was during the tabernacle/judges/kingdom period - it still does represent just punishments. Even the ritual/ceremonial law which was about maintaining complete separation (which it turns out no one was good enough to actually achieve) shows us how important it was that Christ come to be the one to fulfill all the Law and stresses just how impossible it is for men without God. A lot of Scripture is about raising the right questions, like why were the Israelites required to do this, which later on Scripture also answers. Sometimes you learn from having read the Old Testament first. It says a lot of things that are timeless and do not need to be repeated again.

But most of all, Jesus did not "refute" much less "refute the spirit" of any Old Testament law. He was the only perfect fulfillment of it, and we should read it being amazed at the things he must have been able to accomplish, knowing all of this. As a man who "was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin" (Hebrews 4:15).

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88de5d No.850692

>>850683

We can be technical about the Old Testament all day, and you probably have more knowledge about it than I do honestly, but I'd rather make sure someone has their salvation secured and has a personal connection with Jesus before they make any conclusions from the law of Moses, or even worse, stop reading and have that be their impression of Christianity. The OT should be a supplement to the NT. When I said "refute", I more so meant in a general sense that a lot of them don't apply anymore. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees when they tried to be legalistic about unclean food. A whole theme of the Gospel was Jesus essentially showing that the Old Testament law, one way or another, is mostly dead because of Him. That's what I'm trying to convey here in a very basic way, to someone who needs to set their priorities differently. Again, no man knows the day or the hour. We should don our wedding garments first, then we can discuss everything else.

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67f574 No.850722

>>850692

>before they make any conclusions from the law of Moses, or even worse, stop reading and have that be their impression of Christianity.

Well, you should realize that it's not up to you to decide but that God is in control, so believers in the Lord should do their part to promote his word trusting that God will show them the way; and that with God, anything is possible. If a person needs this to be saved, I believe God is going to provide that. As it says 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

I do not limit the number of ways in which the Lord can work through exposure to his word. I simply call to mind every part of the whole counsel of God. Like Paul says Acts 20:27 "For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God."

>When I said "refute", I more so meant in a general sense that a lot of them don't apply anymore.

They do apply to the people who they refer to. The Law applies in a number of ways. It shows that no man can be righteous of his own. God can use that to teach us this. It shows that the people from whom Christ came were separated, and the signification of it is mentioned as well: the purpose of all that was to keep the line of Christ clear. We learn that in the New Testament. That helps explain why genealogies only matter when it comes to Christ. Due to his fulfillment of the prophecies made of old as a sign given by God. It is a deliberate sign.

If God will have someone find all that out, I say let him guide them. I trust the plan of God in keeping his entire word in one more than I trust myself.

>Jesus rebuked the Pharisees when they tried to be legalistic about unclean food.

Not only were they being legalistic, but they were being legalistic about commandments that they had made up which were not even part of the written law. Jesus tells them in Mark 7:13 that they have made the word of God of none effect, nullified it in other words, that they may keep their tradition which they have delivered.

>"A whole theme of the Gospel was Jesus essentially showing that the Old Testament law, one way or another, is mostly dead because of Him."

More like it is fulfilled. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." Matthew 5:17.

>We should don our wedding garments first, then we can discuss everything else.

I believe that the Lord has provided time exactly for the purpose that the lost will return before judgment has to be executed. I do not believe that He would bring the end sooner than is absolutely necessary because his decisionmaking is infinitely wise. But he could have read the sentence of judgment out on all of us beforehand, yet he apparently refrained and if you want to know why you should study his word. It says that God is longsuffering and not willing that any should perish but that all should come to the knowledge of the truth.

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000000 No.850859

Is it true that God doesn't answer the prayers of degenerates/sinner? Is there biblical evidence for this?

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67f574 No.850864

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>>850859

Proverbs 28:9

>He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

James 4:2-3

>Ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

>Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

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000000 No.850868

>>850864

>Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

Wow that is pretty precises .

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a8027d No.850992

What's a graceful way for a strict Christian to tell creeps on the internet to stop talking about sex and body parts?

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799a3a No.850993

>>850992

I don't see a need to be graceful rather that straightforward

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000000 No.851001

>>850992

Friends or non-friends?

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a8027d No.851022

>>851001

Non-friends, in a forum much more active than this one.

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000000 No.851040

>>851022

I think the best course of action is just to filter (if you can) or not read posts by those specific people. You can't stop people on the internet from being degenerate trash, but you can choose how to respond to it, and that is to not feed them. I get people on other image boards who love to offend Christians but offending them or reacting to their offensive words or images makes them happy, so it's better to just not react. I guess that if you had to give a respounce i'd say to display pity.

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5ccc70 No.851067

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Is my childhood religion based or cringe? Yes or no answers only.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Apostolic_Church

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84d7ef No.851075

>>851067

Not completely cringe.

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a8027d No.851076

>>851067

Your obvious datamining is cringe.

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1630a9 No.851084

>>851076

Well this is a honeypot so your data is already compromised. I was just asking because I've never seen or heard anyone else with this Christian background.

Also, if said denomination IS based, then I wouldn't mind having a flag.

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540858 No.851086

>>851084

I am really interested in this church, I've never heard of it. You should make a thread to tell us your experience

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609953 No.851093

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Why was old Christian art and design so much more masculine and edgy? And why did most living humans magically turn into assholes after Notre Dame burned down?

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000000 No.852289

Is it true that the Roman authorities wanted to let Jesus go, but the jewish religious authorities pushed for crucifixion?

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313b5a No.852291

>>852289

>is the Gospel of Saint John Chapter 19 true.

Absolutely true.

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ea2a08 No.852297

>>852289

Now when Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this Man’s blood; you yourselves shall see.”

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80e0c6 No.852306

anyone else get really nervous when going to confession. Ive been having a hard time confessing masturbation but i think im ready to

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d6ccee No.852311

Why are people mean when I'm nice and nice when I'm mean? Curse you btw, now you have to be nice to me or you're not a normal person.

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fec9ca No.852313

>>852311

Do you mean on image boards? I think it's a macho thing, people see how far they can push others before they stand up for themselves.

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d6ccee No.852315

>>852313

Not really, more just a general human thing. If I'm nice to my mother she gets all critical and nitpicky, but if I'm visibly mad about something she gets all nice. It's the same way with my boss at work too. They just seem to reward anger and punish kindness, which is a really dumb thing for them to do because they're conditioning people to be angry around them.

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33f5c1 No.852342

>>852315

I think it's also that people are more willing to confide in "nice" seeming people, and when people are mad it's all about the feelings of the angry. I also have this sort of dynamic with male friends who try to "play the dozens" with me.I don't really have any solutions other than to find those who aren't into that, and try to find a healthy balance of both.

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74393a No.853994

So if everything good comes from God, then if we sin, will we get less good things? How does Jesus's sacrifice factor into this?

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4196d5 No.854352

Is it safe to say that because of Revelation 3:16 that God would rather someone be an atheist than a lukewarm Christian?

Revelation 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

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cf6e8e No.854353

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93ae00 No.854451

>>854352

The haydock commentary says that it is better to be a big time sinner than a lukewarm christian because the greatly sinful are closer to true repentance. Lots of people I know are okay with gay marriage, fornication outside of marriage, divorce etc, but think it's no big deal and because their life is comfortable they so real need to change their life. People who live really sinful lives can tell their life is a total mess and are more likely to convert and make a radical change.

It's not that in the end it's better to die a sinner. St Faustina said that the Lord said to her the greatest pain that caused him to sweat blood in the agony of the garden was because of the lukewarm because they are so hard to reach

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000000 No.854661

Do I upset God by listening to Slayer?

Please don't laugh, I mean it seriously. I was taught by the catechesis that sin is an intentional disobedience of God's word, so does that mean that I am all good if my intent is not to demean God or commit blasphemy but rather to appreciate the music from an artistic viewpoint?

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cf6e8e No.854662

>>854661

anything not done in faith is sin so yes

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361811 No.854829

>>846553

>It's the only Catholic position.

Doesn't the Catholic Church affirm the legitimacy of governments?

>Ancient Israel before they disobeyed God and asked for a king was anarchic.

Not sure if you read the book of Judges, but that wasn't exactly the best of times for Israel.

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06cd98 No.854863

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>>854661

Be the judge yourself. Does their music offends God? Consider establishing parameters that aren't too stressful for you to judge if a piece of art is or isn't proper to be consumed by a God fearing individual.

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1e92e9 No.855603

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>KJV John 4:14-16 - But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. The woman saith unto him, Sir, give me this water, that I thirst not, neither come hither to draw. Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

What did Jesus mean by this? Why need a lover to have everlasting life?

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a149f4 No.855604

>>855603

Obviously, He foreknew what she was going to say. Carry on, sir.

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1e92e9 No.855612

>>855604

Clearly being loyal to a mate is of importance for everlasting life, else He wouldn't even have mentioned it.

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16adea No.857036

>>841907

>>841907

What book should I buy to learn more? I only know about how Aquinas proved it’s possible for creation to have started with God rather than an infinite amount of creators creating new creations and creators… if that makes sense. Saw it years ago on /pol/. I’d love to read more.

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0b5f3f No.857040

Where did everyone go? Was there ever anbody on this board to begin with?

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868370 No.857043

>>842056

>I disagree that hell is eternal. With how merciful, loving, and forgiving God is, why would anyone believe such a thing?

Human souls are eternal. After you die, your soul will leave your body and face god. If you sinned during your lifetime, you soul is tarnished and you cannot be with god. This state of exclusion from god's presence is the greatest of all torments, because god is the source of all holiness.

If you were righteous during your lifetime and followed god, he will let your soul be with the heavenly host, and you will be able to "see" god personally (the beatific vision). Being able to gaze at and worship the greatest of all divine beings for eternity is the ultimate reward for a faithful, righteous life.

"Time" as we know it simply means change. Because humans are made from matter+energy, and matter+energy is constantly changing, we experience time. Beings that do not change (souls, angels etc.) do not experience time. When your soul leaves your body, you stop experiencing "time" as we know it and you face the consequences of whatever state your soul is in at your death (sin or righteousness) for eternity.

>Are most Christians really okay with never seeing the majority of the people they know and love ever again?

Even if the majority of people you know are not Christian, that doesn't mean that they will not one day see the truth. There have been cases in which Jesus and mary appeared to people in a vision, so it could also mean that Jesus or mary might visit someone on their deathbed and let them see the light.

I pray that my atheist grandfather is with god and that he knew god before he passed away.

Rev 21:4 states that there will be no more death, mourning, crying, or pain.

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868370 No.857044

>>842056

>I disagree that hell is eternal. With how merciful, loving, and forgiving God is, why would anyone believe such a thing?

Human souls are eternal. After you die, your soul will leave your body and face god. If you sinned during your lifetime, you soul is tarnished and you cannot be with god. This state of exclusion from god's presence is the greatest of all torments, because god is the source of all holiness.

If you were righteous during your lifetime and followed god, he will let your soul be with the heavenly host, and you will be able to "see" god personally (the beatific vision). Being able to gaze at and worship the greatest of all divine beings for eternity is the ultimate reward for a faithful, righteous life.

"Time" as we know it simply means change. Because humans are made from matter+energy, and matter+energy is constantly changing, we experience time. Beings that do not change (souls, angels etc.) do not experience time. When your soul leaves your body, you stop experiencing "time" as we know it and you face the consequences of whatever state your soul is in at your death (sin or righteousness) for eternity.

>Are most Christians really okay with never seeing the majority of the people they know and love ever again?

Even if the majority of people you know are not Christian, that doesn't mean that they will not one day see the truth. There have been cases in which Jesus and mary appeared to people in a vision, so it could also mean that Jesus or mary might visit someone on their deathbed and let them see the light.

I pray that my atheist grandfather is with god and that he knew god before he passed away.

Rev 21:4 states that there will be no more death, mourning, crying, or pain.

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