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 No.124767

I find that kratom helps me meditate and puts me in a headspace in which I feel full of energy. I like to combine it with caffeine for increased focus but sometimes it will make it hard to clear my head. Anyone else have any experience with kratom? Let's discuss any herbs/substances that help us in meditations, rituals and such.

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 No.124803

I bought 4 strains to test it anon. Care to share what method you use for the best results?

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 No.124841

To use drugs to achieve your goal is like taking a bike with the intent to develope a faster run speed. Yes it works your legs but in the end the speed you will have gone with the bike makes your unaided development… Disappointing

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 No.124845

>>124841

How bout you turn off your neurochemicals then and exist as a spirit without them? Shut the fuck up with your shill garbage and get the fuck out if you're only going to spread dissent. All practices are valid kyke

>>124767

As for you OP, I've learned from others that if Kratom gives you a stimulant effect then you have a rare response to opiod drugs in general that makes them more stim than depressant. It's around 1 in every 1000+ people. Consider yourself lucky.

Personally Im using mugwort right now as just a pillow stuffer. Works wonders for making dreams vivid, helps with lucidity if you practice lucid dreaming techniques.

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 No.124850

Any tips on how to stop it from giving me headaches? Didn't used to be this way when I first started taking it…

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 No.124851

>>124845

>"everything is and isn't, at the same time";

>"all truths are but half-truths";

>"every truth is half-false";

>"there are two sides to everything,"

Your Ego is speaking for yourself instead of your Master Self. You should study more…

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 No.124855

>>124845

>All practices are valid

You sure you're not the real kike here?

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 No.124867

>>124851

Your thought traps are weak and won't work on me. If you actually believe the bullshit you're spewing then I feel sorry for you and your oh so real 'Master Self'. Otherwise fuck off with your demiurgic logic.

>>124855

Only a kyke spells the work with an 'i'. Kykes like taking spirit out of actions for everyone they despise as a form of passive warfare. All practices are valid if you actually understand the system.

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 No.124869

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>>124867

>so real 'Master Self'

>demiurgic logic

demiurgic

omg….

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 No.124876

Ok, arrived:

1- Red Betuangi

2-Rede Bali

3-Green Malay

4-Maeng Da

Witch one is the best in your opinion?

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 No.124879

>>124845

By that logic you might as well endlessly supply your system with a surplus of chemicals to achieve the desired states of mind. Not an uncommon practice. It's called drug addiction.

I endorse the practice of instead changing your brain structure to accommodate for your natural availability of chemicals. Within the specific brain area you desire to develop. So you can achieve your desired state of mind in a more permanent sense.

You got awfully defensive. You should dwell into the reason why that is.

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 No.124882

This

>>124851

was meant to this

>>124841

quoted wrongly…

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>>124879

would you need a pole to jump a poodle?

So witches, druids and shamans are all wrong because they use the help of herbs? I am disappointed by your lack of knowledge.

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 No.124889

>>124876

Bali is GOAT

Maeng Da kind of sucks but it's not the worst

Never tried the others.

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 No.124890

Ok, shit is GOOD…Such a deep, profound feeling of peace! I think even if my feet where on fire I wouldn't give a single fuck…This would be the ultimate help for empty mind meditation IF you could focus… But using a thermogenic like caffeine to help improving attention will probably conflict with the effect of Kratom so it is not good. Probably is best to just diminish the dose instead of using caffeine.

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 No.124891

>>124889

I happened to use Bali by chance, it is great indeed

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 No.125132

I hear some people die on kratom.

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 No.125137

>>125132

They die off of it too.

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 No.125168

>>124841

>doesn't know about the psychonauts

smiley ur just schizo. you've accomplished nothing, technically

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 No.125353

>>125137

What!? No wayAa

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 No.125354

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>>124845

>>All practices are valid kyke

I have a video for you.

>>124841

I actually feel much more high and joyfull when sober than when I smoke kush, this is a recent observation but I geuss im either naturally high and the frequency being high off weed resonates lower or that my body is good at alerting me to toxicity. So in a sense smoking for me is like running whit weights which makes sobriety not disappointing whatsoever.

>>125168

You know about DMT and the pineal gland right? # Muh psycadelics. Take what you want but please don't insult sobreity, being able to stay sober in todays world is a consciousness expanding experience.

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 No.127400

>>124841

>To use drugs to achieve your goal is like taking a bike with the intent to develope a faster run speed

>don't use cars to get to other places because at the end of the day you won't even be able to run faster

gay

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 No.127402

>>127400

This analogy is flawed. Where we're going after this is over we won't have cars. If you learn to rely on them you're fucked.

You will be missing a lot of other stuff you probably rely on and shouldn't.

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 No.127420

>>124767

is it legal in burgerland after all?

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 No.127428

>>127420

Not in pisshole states like 'bama

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 No.128706

>>124841

bikes can go faster than legs tho m8

and cars can go faster than bikes

>>124841

mahayana

vajrayana

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 No.131062

Kratom is an opiate and the withdrawals are almost as bad as heroin, certainly way more severe than the supposed positive effects are worth. At least real opiates get you high.

t. Recovering addict

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 No.131063

>the withdrawals are almost as bad as heroin

lol

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 No.131070

>>131062

T. Big pharma shill

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 No.131118

>>131070

>>131063

Why don’t you faggots just do some heroin?

Get a real habit. At least you’ll get high while wasting your money.

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 No.131145

>>131118

Because heroin is hard as fuck to keep recreational faggot. If you get addicted to Kratom you're a retard.

t. haven't touched dope in ten years

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 No.131166

this shit ruined my life

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 No.131167

>>131070

lol nobody is trying to shittalk kratom. nobody knows what the fuck this green muck is. It's an opioid though and it has opioid withdrawals

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 No.131168

>>131166

What's it like being a weak-willed faggot?

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 No.131568

Been taking Kratom for 4 years or so, now, probably 3 years of daily use. It was a great antidepressant for me at one time, probably more placebo at this point though.

But can confirm, opiate like withdrawals, mostly just minor fever like symptoms tho- achy and that. Nothing terrible in my experience. More annoyed than in pain, nothing like I assume heroin to be. The dependancy is similar to in between cigarettes and sugar)

Its shit to be dependant on anything. But its what i would recommend to anyone attempting to get off hard drugs (youll easily puke your guts out if you take even a bit "too much". Moreso, it has a neutralizing effect on other opiates, in my experience. Its safer and less addictive than that bullshit they give ppl now, i forget what their new wonderdrug is called) Also would recommend to people who are complating big pharma anti depressants, bc kratom doesnt come with the warning that :" youre either going to become a slug, get fat or kill urself"

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 No.131569

>>131568

Im going to add to my last post to say ;

"ur a pussy if you let kratom ruin your life" holy fuck dude.

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 No.131573

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 No.134878

>>124767

Let me just give my 2 cents as someone who just recently quit the stuff after 1.5yr addiction. It's a medium grade opiate and can very easily become addictive physically. there are some that describe detox as similar to H. (H is more severe but ends quicker. Krat detox can take weeks / months). I realized I was taking way huge doses every day and when I missed one I would go through withdraws. Took me a couple of months to taper down. Many report side effects of hairloss which is why I became dedicated to stop.

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 No.134881

>>131568

The withdrawal of tobacco is 100% psychological. I was a smoker for many years and I never understood why tobacco addicts insist that the addiction is physical. It's not. There is a physical component, but it's so weak and short, every smoker overcomes it every night while they sleep

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 No.134915

>>134881

I've never understood it either. I smoked for years but a few months ago when the quarantine started I just stopped. i had urges to smoke but i didnt follow through with it. I think a lot of it has to do with will power more than anything.

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 No.135016

Great crutch, the most i used was 3 times a week and had 0 noticible side effects/withdrawals, gives your mood a glow about it and makes you more social, this ive noticed from all strands. White strain makes me want to be productive, red makes me want to hang out and be comfy also gives a bit of warmness/kindness to my mood. Red also has a noticeable mental visual enhancement as in your imagination becomes more vivid and plastic.

Id recommend to anyone that wants a crutch for social anxiety or a boost to productivity. Also supposed to be a good pain killer, and helps people get off of opiates as it is an opioid and binds to the same receptor but I imagine if used for those reasons they can be addicting. Use drugs with a productive goal in mind or dont use them at all.

My favorite vendor is happyhippo, ive tried coastline kratom and purkratom and they didnt do much for me. My dosage is 1.5g-2g but dosages vary for individuals, youll have to experiment with different strains and dosages to find the right one for you. Ill dump a few resources later today.

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 No.135026

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 No.135027

>>135016

Also there was some side effects I remembered, dehydration and constipation (sometimes) but these can easily be worked around. Also if you take too much you'll become nauseous and if you really go too high you'll vomit.

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 No.135049

>>135027

take magnesium daily and kratom won't do shit to your supremely slippery bowels

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 No.137377

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Documentary on Kratom, used to be on Netflix but its gone now

A Leaf of Faith

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 No.137378

>>137377

idk why the thumbnail is that but the docs good

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