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 No.140817 [Last50 Posts]

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: https://archive.is/rZ0XO FAQ: https://8kun.top/fringe/faq.html

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 No.140824

Can we get rid of the link to the dead Fringebay "Tipp's Fringe Bunker" and put up this archive instead?

https://fringearchives.neocities.org

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 No.140826

>>140824

Also is it me or is the fringe library MEGA link empty?

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 No.140831

What's the best way to absolve myself of negative energetic baggage?

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 No.140837

>>140831

First of all, accept and own whatever it is. You can't be in rejection or opposition to anything you want to get rid of.

Then, allow yourself to feel it. Imagine this baggage wants to say something by way of your feelings, so let it. Don't amplify it, or become identified with it. Simply let yourself feel what it wants to feel and wait. If you find yourself adopting a victim or martyr mentality, that is essentially the same as if you find yourself rejecting or resisting it. Go back to the beginning.

You can accelerate the process by actively seeking the opposite energy and expressing it (for example, if you feel anger, meditate on gratefulness). However, this accelerates the process I mentioned earlier, it doesn't sidestep it. You are going to have to go through it anyway.

In essense, your consciousness can dissolve any energy by passively observing it without engaging it, like the sun shining on a puddle until it's dry. And you can help it along by actively engaging in energies that negate it (law of polarity).

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 No.140838

>>140826

Go into the fringearchives link in my post above yours, select fringechan on the right and then /library/ at the top. Thread No. 1.

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 No.140839

>>140826

Thanks for letting us know, just reuploaded it.

>>140824

Sure thing, just updated.

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 No.140840

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 No.140842

>>140837

Thanks for this post, I am in a somewhat similar position as the guy you quoted - I want to free myself of stuff my culture and family passed on to me while I was a child, things like unnecessary fear, hate e.t.c.

My question is: I can clear my mind during meditation and be in a no-mind state with very few thoughts, then, where do I go from there? I can astral project but it's usually chaotic.

Is there a way to enter my subconscious and somehow remember old forgotten childhood trauma and/or gain access to my deep feelings and mechanisms of my character/ego? Has anyone ever done this?

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 No.140847

>>140842

If you have bad stuff weighting you down, life should from time to time throw it at you. Every time you find yourself in conflict, either internal or external, apply that meditative attitude I explained above.

You can do it in the moment, or you can set aside half an hour daily to clear your mind in meditation and recall the bad feelings, bring them to the surface and let them get cleared.

If there is nothing specific or you feel you need another method, check out the book Inner Guide Meditation by Edwin C. Steinbrecher.

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 No.140852

the old mega is dead. I'm looking if anyone has it its the one with levels 0,1,2,3 that starts with more science basis to start belief with books like the holographic universe and at level 1 it has things like initiation into hermetics.

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 No.140854

>>140824

did someone make a downloadable archive of this yet

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 No.140855

>>140852

Is it not this one? Go to the fringe essentials folder and open the text file. I'm pretty sure everything you're looking for is there.

>>140840

https://mega.nz/folder/JNwWCb6D#wEx-WMWXrDk4oLB-C-oIDA

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 No.140858

>>140855

that ones isn't it sorry it is clearly separated by folders with a number first the first folder starts with a 0 and goes into mundane understandings of occultism to start belief like the holographic universe my big toe and a video called the men who stare at goats. I only care about that folder as I have most of the books on the other levels.

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 No.140860

>>140817

Aw, well that's unfortunate. Hopefully someone can post it for you soon.

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 No.140865

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 No.140872

What does it mean to be grounded?

My personal guides told me that I need to ground myself, what does that mean? Does it have to do with my compulsive thinking and my daydreaming?

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 No.140873

>>140872

It means, that while you are trying to reach a higher level of conciousness, you need to ground yourself on the lower levels of conciousness, e.g. the material world or your body.

In order to get to a higher level of conciousness, you need firm roots in the grounds of existence. A tree cannot grow large if its roots don't reach deep into the ground.

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 No.140875

>>140854

I have it in my computer in case I need to upload it anywhere else.

It's 600MB+ and tons of tiny files, so it's a hassle to zip it and upload it for download.

You can easily wget it and it will download cleanly into something you can browse offline through the "index.html" file.

https://letswp.io/download-an-entire-website-wget-windows/

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 No.140876

>>140854

I have it in my computer in case I need to upload it anywhere else.

It's 600MB+ and tons of tiny files, so it's a hassle to zip it and upload it for download.

You can easily wget it and it will download cleanly into something you can browse offline through the "index.html" file.

https://letswp.io/download-an-entire-website-wget-windows/

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 No.140877

>>140876

It worked! Thank you for that guide. I tried wget way back when you first posted the archive but it came out all retarded.

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 No.140890

I am confused about something. There are books like Atkinson’s, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, or Between the Gates that describe the dissolution of the bodies upon death, the loss of consciousness, the pull towards rebirth, etc.

Then there are many mediums and channelers of guides, or even mystics like Neville Goddard, who talk about how the afterlife is just like this life, that you just go there to rest in between lives and then plan a new life, including the good and the bad, and come back here deliberately to learn.

I know many in the second category who are legit. They are not lying at least. But I have a bit of difficulty conciliating both perspectives.

The first one would make you want to seek spiritual attainment in order to free yourself of the need to keep coming back to suffer. The second one implies everything is just fine, so just relax and enjoy life.

What is going on here?

>inb4 the new age is a demiurgic deception

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 No.140891

>>140890

Not to mention people like Brett Stuart who remote view a reincarnation trap set up on Earth by alien races and a literal space force and galactic federation operating outside of it.

They can’t all be right (right?) but I don’t think any of them are liars or stupid. What the hell is going on here?

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 No.140894

Had the strangest dream last night. Parts of it seemed chaotic but there was one part that stood out as symbolism to me. I seemed to have been "infected" by some sort of malignant virus or being. I was cured by someone how cut open my side and put a few fish into the wound before having me hold the newly formed wound closed with my hands until the fish 'did their job'. I can understand the parallels to Christ through the fish and the wound in the side but have no idea what to make of it. Any thoughts?

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 No.140896

>>140894

Well, what sort of things in your life would you classify as 'infections'?

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 No.140899

>>140894

Some perceived degeneracy in your life cured?

Is your subconscious telling you “you need Christ”? ie. you need a cure of morality in some sense?

Anything you feel guilty about or concerned about in your personality or conduct that you didn’t know how to address? In that case your subconscious might be saying “by adhering to a moral code”.

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 No.140917

How do I "channel my guide(s)" or whatever? I'm sick of second-guessing everything I do.

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 No.140918

>>140917

>I'm sick of second-guessing everything I do.

Reach out to Archangel Camael brother, he's been helping me a lot with this exact problem ever since I reached out. Paralysis from overthinking is something I've struggled with for over a fucking decade and I'm finally seeing progress in the right direction of balancing this and I owe a lot of it to him. Wish you the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AejLyz2jRI

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 No.140925

Is there a cool new fringeboard or is this it nowadays?

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 No.140928

>>140918

Thanks for the advice. I have been reading this article today. Pure chance.

https://blavatskytheosophy.com/the-danger-and-deception-of-channelling/

>>140924

Tell us if you find it so we can get the fuck over there.

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 No.140937

>>140865

Thank you so much you have no idea how much I appreciate you

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 No.140939

>>140925

there's probably like 100 instances of /fringe/ with small handfuls of people wondering where everyone went

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 No.140944

I read all of "Inner Guide Meditation" which >>140847 recommended and I can say that I found it wonderful, however it didn't go into detail about how to meditate for the purpose of going into my subconscious and/or meditating and then creating a "scene" or a "place" with my own thoughts and meeting my guide e.t.c.

Excuse me for repeating the question but I really want to achieve it: Is there any good read on how to enter the subconscious after I successfully relax myself in sitting meditation? And any good read about how to create those "scenes/places" in my mind?

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 No.140956

File: 805ad342c7f4eb7⋯.png (91.05 KB,600x556,150:139,164_Y1zAkRV.png)

What sex position do God and his wife use?

While pondering this I realized doggystyle is basically a reverse centaur, like Sagittarius. Then its opposite, Gemini must be missionary. Pisces is 69ing like Lilith & Samael. Leo and Cancer are sperm and egg, respectively. Virgo is obvious.

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 No.140957

File: 4c6605052005877⋯.png (164.37 KB,878x738,439:369,63_LuOzdPU.png)

>>140956

Taurus is cowgirl. Not just because "hurr durr its a cow" but it's a Venus sign, and Venus was often depicted riding a bull.

Scorpio is probably anal.

Now, I haven't figured out Libra yet but it fits right between chaste Virgo and degenerate Scorpio.

With that in mind, Aries is probably cunnilingus, and Aquarius is probably fellatio, because Pisces 69s between them, among other reasons.

So far my attributions to Leo and Cancer are unsatisfying and I have no clue what Capricorn is.

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 No.140964

Nine years ago: https://fringearchives.neocities.org/archive/freedomboard/691/index.html

Meanwhile, today:

>im afraid of radio waves

>the elites are forcing me to get vaccinated in order to go to mcdonalds help guys

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 No.140965

There are some really good gems in the archive:

https://pastebin.com/VLL8qAkQ

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 No.140967

File: d4f3e92cf99c009⋯.png (14.12 KB,395x125,79:25,omg_cringe.png)

I'm not "fashy" or an "eso-christian" but x/omg/ is the most insufferable occult forum out there, I swear. What is it that makes them plebbit on steroids? Even /r/occult has a wiser and more likable userbase.

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 No.140969

>>140967

At least they discuss occult topics. All you're doing is running around moaning about uselessly like a little high school bitch. Do you even practice?

Go seek validation somewhere else, child.

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 No.140970

>>140967

Have you ever actually been on r/occult? It is nothing but an occult popularity contest. "Is ThIs SyMbOl OcCuLt?!?!?" followed by updoots if its edgy LARPing material. I've found more useful information after parsing through x/omg/ and its tripfagging than anything on plebbit. Do you even consider yourself a mage?

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 No.140973

>>140970

Yeah, /omg/ is bad only in the sense that /x/ is bad. You can find all sorts there. But there really are knowledgeable people posting sometimes.

/r/occult is pure mundanity. You might find an old thread from time to time with some useful link or something, but that's it.

>Do you even consider yourself a mage?

He's, ironically, the kind of "fashy" "eso-christian" edgy ass /omg/ was making fun of.

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 No.140974

Where I can find this /x/omg/ place you're all talking about?

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 No.140976

>>140974

Whoa there! It’s not like you would want to actually go LOOKING for it!

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 No.140978

>>140976

I did search for it, I only found some threads from 4chanarchive

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 No.140985

What books do i need to read to understand occult satanism to the point where i can see it practiced in real life when others cannot?

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 No.140986

>>140985

Rephrase the question.

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 No.140987

>>140986

Is there a book that will teach me occultist satanism?

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 No.140988

File: 3d5a8e60320507d⋯.pdf (191.87 KB,Black_Book_of_Satan.pdf)

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 No.140989

How can i prove that priests are practicing occultist satanism? Is there a book that talks about this?

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 No.140990

>>140989

Look into Bob Larson. He's quite blatantly chummy with Satanists while larping as their nemesis.

https://youtu.be/c9kWZIbifBo

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 No.140996

>22222

>no post on /fringe/ about it

dang

my flag is this board

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 No.141001

I did some improvised Dionysian madness rituals for a while that involved entering into a manic sort of trance. At some point along that path the entity that wears the Dionysus mask descended upon me. What can I actually do with this type of spirit when I have its undivided attention? Is it worth exploring a Dionysus cult revival?

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 No.141002

PLEASE LET ME STOP EXISTING PLEASE

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 No.141012

File: 00ed327e5df743e⋯.jpg (57.95 KB,630x630,1:1,1603826690467.jpg)

Where can I learn more about symbolism within nature? As opposed to symbols of nature. I happened to catch a stream by Marty L33ds, about a lamb-plant which grazed in a circle, before death. Along the way he cited non-mythical examples of plants/animals indicating danger and other effects. Ever since, I've been fascinated with going outside to look for esoteric symbolism there.

Another related thing I'm curious to learn more about is esoteric racialism/physiognomy. Used to see it a lot back when /pol/ was cool. This should essentially tie in with the above, except applied to humans. Didn't theosophists talk a lot about it, before mustache man's hijinks?

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 No.141013

>Why don’t women realise that actions have consequences

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/368661054

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 No.141014

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>Mark Dice EXCORIATES Cuckservative Inc. kowtowing to faggots

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 No.141022

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 No.141024

Hello. I've been to a few places with this question but so far nothing helpful has come up. I've been trying to fix my identity and become straight again from being and living as gay. What are the best occult, non christian methods of doing this? I want it to be permanent too.

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 No.141027

>>141024

I think you should start by reading "Three contributions to the theory of sex" by Sigmund Freud.

He explains the different stages of personal development of a person, where homosexuality is one such phase. It's a rather short book, you can get it at libgen.

Freud was jewish and based his work on kabbalah, you can see how his disciple Jung developed the field. It's a good start to put things into perspective.

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 No.141035

anyone have john kreiter's way of the death defier? it's the last in the trilogy.

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 No.141050

>>141035

If you have mastered all that is taught in the first two you shouldn't have any difficulty acquiring the third.

The thing is, you're merely reading and speeding practice-less towards death, aren't you?

Good for you. Good boy!

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 No.141057

>>141027

I read it, but I don't understand the practical principles I can use from it to assist in my conversion.

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 No.141059

>>140817

Newbie here,Keep in mind I've never heard of the Moab before in my life.

>Having realistic dream set in my usual daily walk

>Thinking about esoteric books in dream

>Suddenly start thinking about the Moab

>I don't know what it is in my dream but I have a strong urge to research what it is

>Get home in dream and instantly woke up

Does anyone know what this means quick G**gle search says it's a promised land or does anyone have anymore esoteric information on it?

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 No.141060

Any other /fringe/'s still alive?

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 No.141061

>>141057

If you can identify with the presented ideas of how humans develop, it should show you at what stage you currently are. You'll have to start searching yourself to identify which of your habits are keeping you stuck there, and what you can expect from the next stage. Try to move there by changing yourself.

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 No.141063

>>141024

Very easy. Just become a woman.

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 No.141068

>>141060

Nope. There's /sunflower/ on endchan, but honestly, it's chuuni garbage.

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 No.141071

>>141060

>>141068

There is no mundane explanation for why nobody has created one by now.

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 No.141074

File: 931b289c8e27331⋯.jpg (63.4 KB,1200x675,16:9,index.jpg)

>>141071

I created the last one along with another person because we believed it was a good thing that people needed. /fringe/ got me initiated after all.

I personally don't think a community like that is possible anymore, because we don't have the kind of people that made it possible anymore. All we have are shallow neophytes and mundanes who want to be spoonfed and initiates who feel out of place and disoriented in this new world we seem to have been teleported to and don't even practice much.

We unironically need initiates who think themselves as hot shit adepts. Knowledgeable enough to talk valuably, and ignorant enough to unwittingly test their limits while they stir shit up by talking out of their ass.

We don't have a /fringe/ because we're in short supply of assholes.

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 No.141075

>>141074

We probably have a third type of person, but I don't understand why they would come here at all. These are regular, practicing initiates who are just doing their work, moving along in their path. They have no need for an online community.

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 No.141083

>>141074

>We unironically need initiates who think themselves as hot shit adepts. Knowledgeable enough to talk valuably, and ignorant enough to unwittingly test their limits while they stir shit up by talking out of their ass.

Fringe started off as Smiley's personal blog, this made a lot of people upset and in the following maelstrom some people learned something. Restarting /fringe/ won't happen unless Smiley comes back, someone needs to make their own place based on themselves if anything is to happen.

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 No.141084

>>141068

Anyone else creeped out by /sunflower/? I'm shocked how bizarre opinions are presented as factual truth without as much as even allowing room for criticism. It's like someone is experiencing a form of Saya no Uta, with the cultish attitude and anime girls. You're not talking to humans there but some sort of entity trying to imitate a human and failing at it.

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 No.141088

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 No.141089

>>141084

That’s what happens when you have skill but no discernment. The astral is full of everything, and most of it is irrelevant to the physical.

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 No.141095

>>141084

It's a place for adepts who have already worked out a functioning magical praxis. It's just not constructive to the mission statement of the place to allow skeptics to come in just to try to tear down other peoples' framework of practice. Everyone perceives Truth through different names and qualia, debating which lens to view reality through becomes unproductive after a certain point. There are already a lot of other places where you can do that.

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 No.141100

>>141095

Don't worry. Nobody is coming to "try to tear down" your framework. Nobody cares. You're just funny.

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 No.141104

>>141095

You’re all very obviously lost inside your own heads. I bet you are not even able to remote view a simple target with any degree of accuracy (something redditors do every day).

Say the word and I’ll set up a simple target and I’ll post it encrypted for later verification, tamper-proof.

The secretary at SRI could do this no problem without any previous experience.You don’t even need to follow any RV methodology. Just provide any data relevant to the target.

If you won’t do that, don’t be surprised if people mock you when they read about you having a doll of the reincarnation of the demiurge and nonsensical things like that. Whatever does that even mean, my friend?

>>141083

Make a Matrix chatroom and only allow in people who are able to psychically tell you one simple piece of information. Anyone can do that with remote viewing. Just have them do an RV or scrying session, then tell them enough information for them to guess based on the facts they got right.

And you can sort out those who are full of hot air.

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 No.141105

>>141104

RV isn't allowed in Falun Gong/Dafa because it can be abused for picking lottery tickets and other things. That's an attachment and you shouldn't engage in things like that. If you knew anything about the board you'd know it's been influenced by FG at its foundation.

But that's not what this is about now and we both know that. CIA-kun is scared now because their psychics aren't operational and they're preparing to fight China who still have theirs intact. Not going to help, you will have to do this with conventional warfare. Once Japan gets involved we'll be behind them, but China never did anything to us so there is no reason to support USA vs China.

Why don't you go recruit on Reddit if they are so good?

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 No.141106

>>141105

>it can be abused for picking lottery tickets

You have to be quite good for that and most lotteries have to be viewed shortly before the draw for it to be even possible, but I get your point.

If you really believe you are psychically involved in an underground war between two major superpowers, there really isn't much more to discuss. You've painted a pretty clear picture for all to see.

By the way, allegedly the Soviets sold their psi research to Japan when the iron curtain fell, and some to China, too. Russia's is supposedly still decades ahead of anyone else's. I personally hope the US gets shitted on on that front for what they did to Japan.

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 No.141107

>>141106

> I personally hope the US gets shitted on on that front for what they did to Japan.

Oh they will. There's this funny thing that they don't seem to be considering. They organize themselves so that no one has any overview as a way to protect themselves. But this creates an illusion of the organization always having more available assets. Everyone thinks this, down to the last man, they have no idea how weak they are.

The irony is that the one who was attacked by them, if they keep going after the same person, he knows exactly how many and where they're from. It only takes a very small network to get an idea of where the lines are drawn outside of your own experiences.

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 No.141109

>>141105

>isn't allowed in Falun Gong/Dafa

>China never did anything to us

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 No.141110

>>141109

China =/= a small faction of the communist party lead by the former president

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 No.141111

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 No.141112

File: 9fbacc21c22c03f⋯.png (1.24 MB,780x602,390:301,KEK_Checked.png)

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 No.141124

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 No.141125

>>141124

nobody is going to click that

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 No.141139

>>141125

>nobody

FUNNY YOU SAY THAT

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 No.141141

File: 8d61ea6dbe537ab⋯.png (15.74 KB,242x250,121:125,1655876064959.png)

"sigil refers to a symbolic representation of the practitioner's desired outcome." Would it be safe to say that money is a form of sigil magic?

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 No.141144

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 No.141151

If anyone that isnt dead and has the ability to seed the "Everything Else" torrent from the library it would be much appreciated. It seems there is also one other anon trying to download it as well.

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 No.141152

Huh, nevermind. It was already included in the main torrent. Wonder why there is a seperate copy.

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 No.141158

/fringe/: The demiurge is keeping us trapped in meaningless suffering. You should create an astral body and ascend to 4th density through magical practice.

/sunflower/: Ok, we will become astral catgirls and go live in our own astral magical princess kingdom where we will have fun together and fight the demiurge, nya~ ^__^

/fringe/: This sounds deeply unscientific. You're being delusional. You just made this up. Why don't you just grow up? We're all laughing at you. Real mysticism is about realizing we're all stardust not casting fireballs or whatever, stop being a baby.

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 No.141160

>>141141

No. Read about Spare. Read Kenneth Grant’s stories. Sigils are a very specific concept that modern magicians butchered. There is a lot to learn if you know the concept properly. >>141158

Well, actually, both are wrong. Sunflower is right in their understanding of how some things work, but they’ve exchanged the demiurgic illusion by an illusion of their own making, all the while their body is still incarnate here and thus they’re still part of samsara.

Arrogant of everyone to think they’ve figured out what the Hindus couldn’t solve one hundred percent. John Kreiter might be closest.

Well, actually, spirits continuously tell us no human being has it figured out completely. And those who do, fuck off, leaving but crumbles behind.

Following those crumbles is counterproductive. We have inbuilt guidance. Getting in touch with it is top priority. It doesn’t talk. Don’t trust anything that uses language by the way.

Anyway. Let this board die already. It’s individual learning time from here on out.

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 No.141167

>>141160

Maybe the hindus were just dumb shitskins.

That's why /sunflower/ can end reincarnation as catgirl-bodhisattvas , while the Hindus keep reincarnating as bugs forever.

>"Spirits tell us"

You read some boomer's channeling fanfic and base your spiritual knowledge off that.

None of you are capable of what freedomboard in its glory days could achieve. All you have is a cope pseudo-religion to cope with being losers.

>"Time for individual practice"

As opposed to the history of fringechan up until now, which was about jerking off or something?

If it's time for individual practice, then you missed it and will keep missing it until you die and reincarnate as a lazy nigger, matching your soul.

This is all cope for having 8chan die. For all your belief in magical abilities, you couldn't even keep /fringe/ from dying. Even retarded /monstergirl/ coomers managed to use their Will to migrate to the webring.

You just buckled down, let it happen, then invented cope reasons why you don't care. This is obullshittist spirituality at its best and what killed /fringe/ even before Jim opened the floodgates to the Qboomer hordes.

Medieval wizards could focus on science, alchemy, literature, art, while also raking in mountains of cash to fund all of it. You can't stop being losers even for a second, because you use religion as cope to justify your ego.

Good luck "escaping samsara" by the way, maybe at your deathbed you'll realize the horror of what you've done to yourself, by yourself, on your own. I wish I could be there to tell you "congratulations, you escaped the demiurge your whole life! He had nothing to do with you being a loser! You did it all to yourself!".

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 No.141169

>>141167

Anon, this might seem like a lot to ask, but I'm a passerby, stopping by on a random whim, in search for something a little spicier than I'm used to, mostly in an effort to cure boredom and get better advice.

So, with that being said, could you point me in a valuable direction? I've already begun a path and, while I didn't do an "official" initiation, I do have some old friends which I was immersed with for a while who showed me some ropes before I lost contact.

I'm now retracing my steps in an effort to review and catalogue what I've learned while also, finally, beginning the physical stages of practice.

I have a few other idea of places where I could ask for more and, at the risk of sounding like I'm looking for handouts, I don't have a whole lot more ideas these days.

Half/x/ isn't very stimulating apart from random, infrequent spurts. It would be nice to be among more of my peers (and preferably those more advanced than me).

I would just figure it out for myself (and that's the plan), but I'm running low on ideas recently.

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 No.141170

>>141167

You made me laugh anon. I like you.

>spirits tell us

With this I meant I have been directly told by spirits, and know of people who have had the same first hand experience.

As for /fringe/ dying. Look, it's not a matter of money. We paid for the fringebay server and domain no problem for several years and supported a custom code base that was very fun to write from scratch. But people moved on to Discord in order to exchange dick pics and it became very obvious the days of freedomboard would not come back.

It had to do with 2020. It's a time for being isolated as a practitioner, as it was a time for isolation in many aspects. That's all.

Personally, since I stopped frequenting this board, I've progressed quite a lot. Mainly due to having to focus on my daily human issues. The board had become an escapism for me.

But seriously, I had a very hearty laugh. Very well said.

>>141169

You need to use fancier words and longer sentences if you want any magician to take you seriously, anon.

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 No.141171

>>141170

>people moved on to Discord in order to exchange dick pics

That's the problem with the discord egregore, it's all centered around something smelly, it's the perfect brewing ground for petty dictators acting like jews, pretending to create a diverse community "secretly" revolving around their own ego. It works on imageboards but the ability to ban entry creates a hostage situation on Discord where no one can say what they really think if they want to stay in the server. This doesn't easily lead to anything positive for "open" communities. They call themselves occult but in reality they're only talking about being gay and trans.

It's even impossible to run Order of Nine Angles servers because the platform mods are actively hunting and mass banning anyone involved with them (despite them being pro gay). Joy of Satan is fine because they're jewish or something, but it's very restricted. Jerking off to dick pics is the only thing you can do there unless it's a very strongly themed server.

The latest generation of users all post via phone apps and are clueless about anything else, they're not going to contribute with anything other than boosting the membership figures.

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 No.141173

Can someone greenpill me on the lions gate portal? First time I hear of this, supposed to be a day to plant the seeds for powerful manifestations?

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 No.141187

>>141173

Well if it's real, todays the day.

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 No.141188

Is there any possible way to cast fireballs or something like magic that can exceed my physical capabilities, like lifting a piece of paper from a distance or lighting it, to be honest, not something that has a real benefit in life. and also, is there magic that is not in the public domain and that has real power?

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 No.141189

Just had my 2nd shamanic dismemberment dream, although both have been partial dismemberments focused on my left leg which I have sustained 2 injuries on, both of which inflicted while I was doing some heavy spiritual work at those times.

>Does anyone have any self-initiation resources they could suggest to me?

>It has been made clear to me that I am supposed to do this without a proper teacher for added difficulty and growth

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 No.141190

>>141189

Interesting coincidence. Last night I had a dismemberment dream as well. I cut off my legs, removed my leg bones, and then after closely examining them I switched my knees out with artificial replacements. After which I replaced my legs and walked around on the new knees, in intense pain. I kept thinking that my new knees would explode and I would be crippled.

The day before I activated a thoughtform to induce "protean physicality", which I am guessing is the cause of this occurrence.

>Self Initiation

Have you read through Initiation into Hermetics? That's probably the most practical and straightforward self-initiation course.

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 No.141191

>>141190

I can give it a shot, I remember it not being my flavor of the current when I first gave it a shot again.

Did you gain any specific understanding about your current psychospiritual state, attain some sort of healing on an injury, or just gain superpowers(big doubt)?

Ive dreamt after a severe 1st kneecap dislocation that my leg from knee down fell off and someone gave me a numbing healing glue to reattach it. Woke up with significantly more function in my leg.

A year ago I fractured a big toe bone and couldn't walk for months. The other dream I cut my own foot off, spent a few days in dream land, migrated into a dream I had before with a now missing foot and deja vu'd that I had been there before, and for helping out the people there one of them surgically reattached my foot. My toes were rearranged with big toe in the middle, next two toes surrounding, and smallest toes on the outside. Pretending that my foot is set up like that actually helps me regain my gait and undo muscle compensation and trauma holding patterns.

It has also led me into a bit of reading on various cultures understandings of holy men being inflicted serious injuries that last years of even a lifetime as a lesson on the human condition as well as to temper them into a more refined being in this harsh world of ignorance and misunderstanding.

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 No.141192

>>141191

>Did you gain any specific understanding about your current psychospiritual state, attain some sort of healing on an injury, or just gain superpowers(big doubt)?

I'm pretty sure that it was just an indication that I was applying energy to the wrong location for my desired goal, since the effects of the mutilation were deleterious rather than beneficial.

>I can give it a shot, I remember it not being my flavor of the current when I first gave it a shot again.

You might also try The Magnum Opus, A Step by Step Course by John Kreiter, Hands-on Chaos Magic by Andrieh Vitimus, and The Arcane Formulas and The Arcane Teaching by William Walker Atkinson.

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 No.141193

Any Fringe websites/Communities besides /x/ still active?

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 No.141194

>>141193

There are some order of nine angles FB groups for blacks and joy of satan is still there. ;^P

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 No.141195

>>141194

>O9A for blacks

isn't that called BLM?

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 No.141197

>>140817

Do these dreams have a definite meaning? I used to get them a lot a few years ago. I would simply unravel a bandage and discover I had no body underneath, or I would begin pulling flesh out like cotton candy until there was nothing left. No pain, fear or disgust. Simply deconstruction and fascination about it.

Site’s getting even shittier? I had to type your post number by hand.

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 No.141205

I've been considering suicide lately because I'm in quite a pickle

the same pickle that every single person on this entire godforsaken planet that isn't the powers that be or a proficient wizard is in; a worse-than-death situation

you may be aware by now if you've been paying some attention to politics during the past year or so that the supposed vaccines that've been going out against the bogeyman disease infect its recipient with parasites, HIV, nanomachines that track your vitals and brain activity, and mRNA that goes to the liver and makes it irreversibly modify all of your DNA over several years to cause you to produce bio-circuitry in your blood vessels and produce graphene, which said nanomachines are made of, and that said nanomachines can self-assemble, as well as directly modifying your brain activity and connecting to the internet, nevermind that said bio-circuitry also has a good chance to kill you by clotting your blood

in fact, in february of last year, a russian hacker hacked into a system that was tracking the vital signs in real time of those in russia that got the sputnik "vaccine", iirc

now, I wasn't dumb enough to get injected with any of those serums, but very soon, simply not getting injected won't be enough

the way that the winds are blowing, the writing on the wall, etc., it reads these supposed vaccines that are being developed into aerosols, they'll be sprayed upon major cities, and they'll eventually pollute the entire world's air supply; you don't need esoteric capabilities to know that that's coming, nor that it'll probably be here by or before 2030, if not by some time next year

now, almost undoubtedly, the powers that rule this world are getting ready to use those nanomachines take away everyone's free will outright, that is, to directly dictate every decision made by a person's awareness with no meaningful opposition, or at least to severely limit the freedom of everyone's will

I'm not sure what's taking them so long to flip the switch and turn everyone but them evil/STO, however; perhaps they simply don't have the processing power to effectively do it to everyone but them at once just yet

so, the way that I see it, I have 2 realistic choices:

choice #1: I wait around until the aerosolic version of the mind control serum gets sprayed where I live, and then I eventually get my free will taken away from me without my consent, and after I eventually die of old age or otherwise die the first death, what's left of me will have most likely been turned so evil by the mind control serum that I might as well have ceased to exist anyway; being a Christian, I'd most likely get thrown in the lake of fire

also, if the aerosol doesn't contain nanomachines, then they'll probably stick nanomachines in all the food; even if I go innawoods and hunt my own food, then the nanomachines will probably inhabit wildlife that eats food from human civilizations, and from there, the nanomachines will eventually get into every wilderness in the world and get me that way

#2: I kill myself while I still have free will, and at least get to choose to enter the tunnel of light instead of the world of acid or whatever the damn

however, I'm also thinking about a 3rd choice; perhaps I could read a book I heard of here called "Astral Projection in 90 Days", and then hope that I keep my free will for long enough to do it and AP to the third Heaven and ask them what to do to at least not get my free will taken away from me and essentially get transformed into a robot

although, this'll probably be extremely difficult, if at all possible, for me to pull off since I've been at war with my unconsciousness for several years, which I'll elaborate upon to an extent if I'm asked to

…well actually, now that I put 2 and 2 together, would one of you wizards would be kind enough to provide me with a 4th option, or kind and crazy enough to try that 3rd option and tell me what you find out?

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 No.141206

>>141205

>evil/STO

that's for making a post at 1 AM instead of sleeping; I meant STS

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 No.141207

File: 30a59c32134ed60⋯.png (795.33 KB,614x900,307:450,stop_caring_special_rare.png)

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 No.141208

>>141205

>the same pickle that every single person on this entire godforsaken planet that isn't the powers that be or a proficient wizard is in

So the solution is obviously to become a proficient wizard.

>eventually get my free will taken away from me without my consent

Pataphysically impossible regardless of what machinations are used. The one and only way to lose free will is to consent to bondage. Temporal maneuvering is typically done as a way to deceive you into giving your consent.

>suicide

FYI I'm pretty sure that suicide opens a covenant to third parties to put you into bondage. The metaphysics behind the act of suicide is that you're sacrificing your temporal self because you don't want to put in the work to resolve your temporal trials. It's not erasing these problems, it's just making a declaration of, "I don't want my self anymore". Which naturally you up to your self being taken from you. Remember that they can and will lie to get you to consent. After sealing your intent in blood so to speak there's very little chance of you refusing any bullshit heaven offers which in reality will result in a state of spiritual chattelry and potential thralldom.

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 No.141209

>>141205

>not vaxmaxxing and using sheer thoughtform power to overcome whatever

Yeah, you might as well KYS, you're not gonna make it.

>>141206

Fix your life from within instead of fixating on external enemies.

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 No.141210

>>141209

>>not vaxmaxxing and using sheer thoughtform power to overcome whatever

If you're really good enough at thoughtforms to completely negate a willed act of sacrificing your body then you should be able to just use your skills to avoid being affected by their attempted coercion in the first place.

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 No.141211

>>141208

well that makes me feel better

regardless, I just remembered something I read in a questions thread a time back, which i wish I remembered before posting ITT; some guy inadvertently listened to an audio tape about christ conciousness and either was entering a trance anyway or fell asleep, and when he woke up or came out of it, all of his bodily ailments were healed

I haven't looked into christ conciousness before, and I'd imagine that doing so would lead to alotta disinfo among the few gems, so I think ill try that tomorrow; anyone got any links about this stuff I could look at before(or while) I go looking myself?

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 No.141214

>>141210

I took three doses of it just to trigger you, sweaty.

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 No.141215

>>141211

If you're a christian you should make a habit of reading the bible, out loud, every day as a ritual. Keep reading until your mind vibrates. Fill your mind with the words until nothing else can get in. This will allow possession from angels and with them there no one else can take control of you. It's an extremist way of doing it but if you don't have willpower or think you don't, this will still do the job.

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 No.141216

I wish I had an enigmatic book to fixate on, like Christians have in the Bible.

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 No.141218

>>141215

I'm far too paranoid to allow anything to possess me, due to my years-long war against my unconciousness

that, and I couldn't read the bible anywhere near that much if I tried without my unconciousness that I'm warring with making it more sinful to keep trying to read it than to put the book down

I'd rather not elaborate upon my war with my unconciousness unless someone asks

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 No.141227

A card reading of Bardon's incarnation.

https://www.quareia.com/s/2Quareia-Lecture-2-A-Sample-reading-using-the-Quareia-LXXXI-Deck.pdf

This was made as an example by someone who didn't know him very well, but especially readers of Frabato will spot a thing or two.

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 No.141228

Looking for information on more traditional astrological understandings. Getting tired of new agers trying to hog the spotlight with their assumptions and lack of experience. Sumerian and Zoroastrian would be preferred for sourcing of the information presented in whichever mediums you got.

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 No.141235

Why did Bardon drink a lot of coffee? Isn't it detrimental to occult work?

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 No.141239

>>141235

Because he was human. He also smoked and was overweight. Being a perfect example of fitness and habits is not the rule. All that’s really important is how you maintain a dynamic state of balance. Obsessing autistically about having a perfect lifestyle when it’s unnatural for you can be as detrimental as being a dope fiend or a junk food addict. The outside reflects the inside. And magical proficiency and degree of purity are different things.

“Occult work”? Are you fucking 12 years old?

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 No.141240

This website is absolute fucking garbage.

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 No.141248

Hello, I need help doing a reverse dedication ritual. I found out that the joyofsatan website is jewish and want a clean break from them. I still have the candle with which I've burned the contract and the blades I used to cut myself with. Can anyone help me with this please?

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 No.141249

>>141248

What makes you say they're jewish? I've read their stuff and they're pretty apparent in their hate for jews. Although, I would agree you should distance yourself from them. They tend to keep you in a box of control that has little room for true self actualization. I never did their ritual physically, but i did do it in the 'minds temple' like they said is an alternative. I followed their stuff for years, it thought me a lot and was valuable for my growth, but it also fucked me up pretty damn bad. Take the christpill. Pray to god and invoke the archangels, they can help you. AA Michael, AA Camael, and AA Gabriel I recommend; but see where your intuition guides you. Wish you the best brother

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 No.141250

>>>>141249

>What makes you say they're jewish?

Personal experience. one of those is that they admited that hp.mageson was a jew. as well as telling people to go to the hospital for their ills during the time when all hospitals were full of shit and were telling people that everything is because of covid. If you're thirsty for more, you're free to visit their forum filled with satanic symbolism.

Also, the 'Reverse' Torah Rituals they keep rushing people into doing aren't actually 'Reversing' anything… You just help them curse the non-jews, you included. It also seems to 'Fry' your soul by overloading it with energy somewhat like when you attempt to recharge a car battery with a nuclear reactor but without a resistor leading to the rapid degradation and destruction of it. I could will a pendulum into moving as if it was in a fucking hurricane… Now, After doing those 'reverse' torah rituals for years I can barely get it to move.

The more you believe that the 'Demons' and 'Satan' are the good guys and that they have the power to protect you from jews and other malicious entities, the more power they will have over you. It seems to be based on consent. I'm almost certain the endgame is to get you absolutely certain of their existance[Demons and Satan], and power to punish you if you were to do a 'blasphemous' deed like thinking and acting against them. In order to enter your dreams and start destroying your soul. When they give you dreams, you will most likely experience dream drowsiness[I don't know if it's possible to induce it], and forget the you in reality, while also attempting to use hypnotism and attempt to convince you that they are able to harm you. I think this method could be used by other beings too.

>Take the christcuckpill, religicuckpill, secretsocietiesandorganizationsforcucksallownedbyglowniggerspill

No thanks, I have no desire to become an npc zombie.

>Pray to god

The only prayer I do is wishing for jewsus to choke to death on some random government issued niggrone's muh-dick while he gets sodomized in turn by the niggermonkey triplets promtly named: lymon, byson and cytron.

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 No.141253

>>141250

3edgy5me

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 No.141266

Is it true that drugs contaminate your sexual fluid and ruins the connection between your will and the environment?

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 No.141267

>>141266

Some hinder, some enhance.

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 No.141269

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 No.141272

>>141248

If the contract was entered into under false pretenses then it should be null & void. If you really feel the need to then express your willful awareness that the contract is null via your preferred method, otherwise I wouldn't worry about it unless they start actively fucking with you.

>>141250

Festering hatred caused these injuries, more hatred won't heal them. If you want to reverse the damage that these rituals did to you you'll need to reverse the meaning that was asserted when you performed them. You don't need to become a Christian and if you feel as though that's not your path then avoiding it is the right call. But you will need to learn Forgiveness. Examining the magical workings that Christ performed might help with that.

Also, Forgiveness doesn't mean submission. I'm not telling you to lie down and accept what the Jews have done to you. But you need to ensure that your motivations are pure in order to act effectively, and motivations based on scars are very impure and only serve to strengthen the influence of the old injury.

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 No.141279

>>141269

Added to announcement bar

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 No.141294

When you perform an intentionally occult act, if the energy is not addressed, does the energy, which I assume never dissipates in any way, whether it be between the action, emotion, form, function and other corresponding ideas, jump around in the environment and between person-to-person till you experience the effect of your cause? Also assuming that energy is opportunistic,raw, programmable and has absolutely nothing to do with some sandniggery religion, gee-zus, say-tan, mo-hams or other and has more to do with a universe that's only typical in every way.

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 No.141298

>>141294

The energy does dissipate via small incidental manifestations. For instance, if you do a spell to kill someone and you find out that they lose their job or have some other bit of bad luck, that's incidental and probably means the energy is dissipating and needs to be reinforced. It can also occur for things that are only energetically related, for instance if you don't like a guy and you curse him and then someone who reminds you of the guy you don't like gets bad luck, that's dissipation. This can be avoided by strengthening the boundary your intent.

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 No.141323

How much for a healing, strengthen positive ideals, do away with unhelpful, negative ones, and sever negative tethers? What are some things I can be doing?

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 No.141345

>>141323

Read The Kybalion and The Arcane Teaching (public domain) then read Vampire's Way to Psychic Self Defense by John Krieter (available for free on libgen)

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 No.141375

>>141294

There is a lot of wisdom in this post >>141298

Dreams can also be a sign of dissipation. Moreover, you can harness the phenomenon for your own benefit. For example, it is common to dissipate harmful astrological influence by redirecting it through conscious acts. Ie. exercising a lot to dissipate Mars in Aries energy.

In a way you could say all curses "burn off karma" because they can only materialize through valid avenues considering your current energetic situation and environment.

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 No.141396

tl;dr Trust me, I'm a bullshit occultist.

This post was made behind 7 chakras.

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 No.141405

I keep accidently causing rapid and severe manifestations and weather changes and can't quite figure out how to calm this shit down. Can anyone help? I've been focusing on trying to hone in on understanding and working with my energy and psyche rather than just being absent or applying brute mental force.

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 No.141407

>>141405

Big bubble over your head. Program it to block your mana from going 'up' into the clouds/atmosphere/weather.

Also if you have previously created spells with the intent of manipulating the weather you should nullify them by focusing your attention on them and transmitting a strong disbelief of their existence.

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 No.141413

>>141279

Hey BO, what do you think of migrating these threads to 8chan (dot) moe so we can see images again?

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 No.141436

>>141413

No necromancy please.

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 No.141445

>>141436

>No necromancy

Only negromancy allowed here lol Xd

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 No.141447

>>141445

>>141436

I don’t mean to intrude but this made me think of something if you don’t mind helping me please,

Years ago I was taking care of a pet rabbit and it eventually died. I would like a new rabbit but right now I have basically no money, no car, no place to keep it, no one else to help me take care of it, etc.

Could I be blessed to be a multimillionaire? I could then buy a house, a car, get some surgeries, dental insurance, etc and adopt a rabbit and care for it.

Thank you in advance if you can help me with these.

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 No.141460

>>141436

Okay. I will start fresh.

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 No.141473

>>140817

May some people in this thread grant the wishes of some frens in this thread please?

https://frenschan.org/x/res/1476.html#5340

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 No.141493

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 No.141494

May someone grant a wish of mine?

I’ll try and grant it myself with loa but if you could help I’d appreciate it

I’d like to make a bet with a woman that I could beat her in a 1v1 game of volleyball. Then I’d like to play the game of volleyball against her. Winner of the game gets there car washed by the loser. Loser must also wear a skimpy swimsuit.

If you can please make it so I win the game. If you want to leave it up to chance/skill so she can win that’s okay too.

I don’t own a car right now so I guess I would need one of those first. Along with a gf/fwb/female friend who I can make said bet against and play with.

It’s cold now so if I have to wait a while that’s okay as long as I know it’s coming.

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 No.141495

>>141494

Something like these threads for real(minus the college unless you have to include it) (flirty texting with her prior to the game is cool but not required)

https://www.reddit.com/r/volleyball/comments/10oy9e6/comment/j6rvzch/

https://8chan.moe/b/res/437323.html#437323

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 No.141496

>>141495

I asked frenschan and 4 Chan for help too so I hope that doesn’t interfere with here??

https://boards.4channel.org/x/thread/33981622#bottom

https://frenschan.org/x/res/1476.html#5377

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 No.141497

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 No.141525

so what's the importance of 3, 6, 9, and the importance of the numerical sequence that has to do with physicality… was it 1, 2, 4, 7, 6, 4, 1?

or, what can I read to find out?

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 No.141527

>>141525

gurdjieff and the ennegram

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 No.141650

in the hyperbolically-distant future, when we and everything else are one with the all, and there's no more darkness… what will there be to do?

will we just sit around and do nothing forever?

will we re-live our memories forever?

will there be the degradation of the path of least resistance to worry about?

will there be any potentiality left to exhaust, or is potentiality only seemingly-infinite?

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 No.141658

>>141650

Hmmm

I’m not sure. I guess we shouldn’t worry about things we can’t control?

I want to be happy here and now. I want to be sitting in the driver’s seat of a car that is titled and insured in my name sometime after today and before 2024 A.D.

May you please grant me this ^ wish?

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 No.141672

>>141407

Forgot to respond with many thanks. I did some analyzing of magical workings I've done over the years and found some subconscious associations I had forgotten I programmed. This consequently helped me realize just how much influence I've developed over the years. I've been consciously developing a manual control system over the weather and successfully made it rain after 3 days of making it my focus. Going to see just how far I can change things. Also got back into making energy constructs. I know its technically vampirism but an energy siphon at work that absorbs ambient scraps isn't the worst thing and it makes it much easier to get through the day. Hope your travels are going well, thanks for awakening something in me I had long forgotten about.

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 No.141675

>>141658

just like any decent schoolteacher would say, it's better to learn how to figure out how to get the right answer on the test than it is for someone to tell you what it is

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 No.141678

>>141675

But school teachers make us sit in a desk for hours and years changing our spines from a J to a S (I think)

Please? Please please please.

I’ll try and help myself too and watch subliminals and read about magick and try to help myself so anything you do to help me Is extra (and greatly appreciated)

Someone else is helping me get taller and he let me keep my soul and I’m so great full for both!

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 No.141680

>>141678

I suppose I'll throw you a bone, then, but only one bone

somewhere in the catalog is a thread about the basics of Reality Creation; you might wanna try reading it

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 No.141685

>>141680

https://8kun.top/fringe/res/104268.html

This one? I’m sorry but I’m still confused

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 No.141686

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>>140817

Pics mostly unrelated I just grabbed them from a image search

May someone please grant my wish or teach me how to have it granted and show me that magic is real and atheism+agnosticism is fake?

I’d like to play a game of soccer, volleyball or tennis against an attractive woman (at least 19 and no older then 27, a bmi of at least 18 and no more than 25, no glasses, etc) who’s my friend or girlfriend or wife (I’m single atm with basically no female friends) .

I want this 1v1 game to be a bet between me and her. Loser must wash the winners car in just a bikini and maybe some sandals (I currently have no car and no bikini obviously lol).

I’d prefer to win and get the wash but if you want to leave it up to chance then that’s fine too.

I’d like to play the game of volleyball as soon as possible and practicable.

If I had more money I could buy a car, nicer clothes, get some surgeries, etc to increase my chances.

Any ideas what to do?

Please no /adv/ice advice. I’d like miracles or advice on miracles not a Jordan Peterson lecture please.

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 No.141687

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>>141686

I’ll say a bit about myself

I’m in my early twenties

USA

White

A non trans straight male

Average( a true 6/10 )looking atm with plenty of room to improve

I didn’t take any covid vaccines

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 No.141690

>>141686

If you want to know whether magic is real then try doing it yourself instead of trying to get people to do free work for you.

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 No.141692

>>141690

Okay I’ll try

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 No.141722

>>141685

>gets told literally what to read and what to do

>still unable to know how to proceed

I’m afraid you are too far gone. You are not going to make it. At this point you are not much more than a house plant. Even a dog will sniff out a bone to chew on. How useless can a living being become. Where is your agency? Where is your will? Where are YOU?

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 No.141723

>>141686

If you want proof that there’s something more to all of this, learn to do remote viewing and practice it for a while. Literally the fastest and easiest DIY way. You can get started on the remote viewing reddit.

Being spoon fed will prevent you from getting what you want. Consider yourself warned before you go wondering where things went wrong.

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 No.141760

Best way to learn remote viewing is do the instructions in the Psychomancy book.

If you can't even remote view an object right in front of you, then you shouldn't bother with coordinates.

First you need perfect visualization, then you need psychometry, etc. work from that way out.

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 No.141774

>>141760

That advice is not very good. I began with military protocol RV as a total mundane and by getting consistent results I was convinced ESP could be real and got into magic.

I developed the ability to do psychomancy afterwards.

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 No.141775

>>141774

Please make me a millionaire in real life while I am awake for at least 23 consecutive years as soon as possible please.

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 No.141779

>>141777

Kind of. You’re not going to figure it out by thinking about it. Rituals command parts of your psyche which you normally can’t control directly, which is where the magic happens, where energy is manipulated and spirits talked to. Your conscious mind can’t do any of that on its own.

With practice you will learn to communicate with those parts directly so that you can have them do the same without having to do the ritual.

In the meantime, the ritual is the only thing you have to talk to them.

That’s why you won’t figure it out by thinking. Only by doing the work.

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 No.141780

>>141779

I'm not the guy you were responding to, but would you tell us more about said parts of the psyche?

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 No.141781

>>141780

You can learn more by doing the magic outlined in many of the books you can find here >>140838

Me explaining it would only satisfy your curiosity and prevent you from actually learning anything.

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 No.141853

I want a rhinoplasty and an otoplasty this year.

May someone please grant my wish?

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 No.141854

what happened to the mintbord?

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 No.141859

Did everyone who used to be here migrate somewhere else when the website went down in 2019, or did the board just die? This link >>141269 404s. Or are there any other relatively active general occult forums that aren't complete dogshit?

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 No.141865

>>141859

This was when 4chan/x/ looked like the better alternative, so those who didn't like discord went back there.

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 No.141869

>>141862

For starters, making a thread to ask a question instead of posting here.

And regarding dreams, I'd stop doing all that autistic shit and focus on recording/writing down any dreams or sensations you have/remember every time you wake up. Right after you open your eyes, before you do or think about anything else.

Do it even if you write "I don't remember anything from my dreams" or "I think I was talking to someone". With time you will get better.

>>141859

There was fringebay (fringearchives.neocities.org), then everyone was on Discord being annoying zoomers and then endchan/sunflower/ took some people. Then people tried 4chan/x/ but it's fucking hell. Now it seems this place is more active?

It feels like it could disappear at any moment tho

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 No.141875

What's the deal with ORMUS/monoatomic gold? What do anons here think about it?

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 No.141903

Montalk’s discernment is getting completely fucked by his girlfriend.

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 No.141919

>>141903

In what ways?

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 No.141928

I'm wondering if fasting, specifically by not eating anything at all and having plenty of water with no other beverages for a few days, is a good way to get energy or something like that; I'm assuming that doing this will amplify your emotions via. the desperation of the flesh to obtain food

I'm also wondering how something like this could be compared to the satisfaction of having a good meal when you aren't fasting

any thoughts about this?

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 No.141929

Is it worth reading Crowley's books? The things I can't decipher are because they are filled with Qabbalistic terminology. Is there more interesting books about ritual/ceremonial magic but more palatable?

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 No.141938

>>141929

>but more palatable

I find Crowley's style very enjoyable. He was very intelligent and articulate and honestly, I find his essays surprisingly down to earth.

>>141928

If you look at it from the point of view of traditional Chinese medicine, what you're doing is forcing your body to use your Kidney essence. It's not just a feeling; you will actually have more energy. But you're using up lifespan years.

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 No.141939

>>141937

This is adept level shit, but you can energetically encode gnosis in symbols and objects.

There are rocks in Tibet which have shit encoded in them from monks who purposefully put it there for future enlightened civilizations to find.

Mount Shasta has stuff in it, too. But I suppose it's highly schizophrenic in comparison.

>>141935

Just let it happen. It will hurt less if you don't resist.

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 No.141951

if a being doesn't have a spirit, then how would that being go about creating itself a spirit?

I'm not asking about myself, fwiw

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 No.141953

>>141951

All that exists possesses a spirit.

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 No.141958

>>141938

>But you're using up lifespan years.

I sure hope that's not true. Nothing helps me to 'remember myself' better than fasting. Once during a fast on the third day I found myself in a wal-mart and the feeling of disparity between me and the normalfags there was unreal.

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 No.141965

>>141958

So you're hurting your body and reinforcing your delusions of grandeur. Way to go.

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 No.141968

>>141938

I don't think this is true. There have been studies conducted on mice which show that extended starvation diets greatly increase their lifespan. Something about slowing down their metabolism.

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 No.141977

>>141968

Fasting, just as any other exposure of the body to stress (exercise, cold exposure), can be beneficial if done correctly because it stimulates its survival mechanisms.

Starvation slows down your metabolism in an attempt to delay your death while your energy reserves get depleted. It taps into your bone marrow and your muscle mass, for example.

There are no studies showing "starvation greatly increases" anyone's lifespan. Starvation, by definition is a process of dying.

However, someone with fat to spare can live for weeks or even months perfectly well by fasting in ketosis provided they keep their metabolism active by exercising a bit and they keep an eye on their electrolytes so as to not bust their kidneys (snake juice diet).

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 No.141990

>>141953

then whats an organic portal?

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 No.141991

Is it possible to join the freemasons? There's a lodge in my city. Do they teach you anything about the occult? Can you learn that from books regardless? Is it just a club for old people to spend their afternoon? They say it's not a secret society on their website.

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 No.141992

>>141991

having spent a long time on /pol/ before the board died, I can tell you that becoming a freemason will probably teach you occultism very slowly and limit your potential, as well as pigeonholing you, if not forcing you, in to some sort of unscrupulous servitude of them

you'll probably learn a lot faster by just reading this site's old threads and archives, and the material linked within

I'll otherwise get you started by telling you a few things:

-you'll probably wanna merge your ego with your spirit at some point while you're still alive

-magic is ultimately will+intention, and it's extremely arbitrary and customizable; belief and a lack of doubt plays an extremely major part in intention, at both a conscious level and an unconscious level, so for example, if you have enough doubt in your ability to do magic, then your magic won't do shit

-I'm under the impression that you might need to add some amount of lawyerese to your magic's intentions to, for example, prevent a ritual for "making your life become better" from unwittingly involving you transmigrating your spirit into someone else's body… however, the more that you believe that such specifics are required, the more you'll actually need them; I question if you'll need any such specifics at all if you believe that The Monad would never do such things to youI'd considered saying that you don't need lawyerese, but perhaps that was just my own doubt talking

-I'm told that you don't actually need energy to use magic; it just makes it easier to believe that you can use magic

-being STO is better for eternally-long-term survival than being STS

-joy of satan rips off its material from reputable esoteric stuff and adds subversion to it

-merging with The Monad/The All would be nice, but perhaps there's a reason why you're down here and not being one with The Monad, so I question if becoming one with The Monad ASAP would be the best decision to make

still being sort of a newfig, I'm probably wrong about half of this stuff, so expect me to get called out on it

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 No.141994

>>141992

>-I'm under the impression that you might need to add some amount of lawyerese to your magic's intentions to, for example, prevent a ritual for "making your life become better" from unwittingly involving you transmigrating your spirit into someone else's body…

In my experience, fretting about details has never once provided any sort of benefit or increase in accuracy to me. If anything it messes with your confidence. Magic tends to work on the spirit of the intent, not the letter.

>-I'm told that you don't actually need energy to use magic; it just makes it easier to believe that you can use magic

Energy as an 'impetus to move' is definitely important. It's all about making sure that the system 'makes sense' internally. People hear stuff about how magic is about manipulating belief and assume that this means it's all arbitrary. It's not. Belief needs to make sense, it needs to follow its own rules to avoid collapsing. It's more than just empty assertions. It needs some sort of foundation of Truth and Meaning.

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 No.142019

>>141992

There are two types of energy (at least) and the Chinese had a good understanding of how they worked.

One could be called vital energy. This is definitely a finite resource and it’s what keeps you young and alive.

The other is spiritual energy, and it’s better understood as an allocable bandwidth rather than a limited amount of something.

This is what keeps your consciousness in one piece and is generally not a problem while incarnate. As a discarnate spirit it might be a different story though.

Magic uses the second type of energy (although spirits can consume the first type as payment or as parasites). You can usually think of it in terms of attention, but it is definitely a separate substance which can be felt distinctively.

If ancient Chinese are to be believed (I am nowhere at that level), spiritual energy can support vital energy and prolong your life. I don’t know.

But it is a must to learn to handle it if you want to have a good afterlife and a say in your reincarnation.

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 No.142051

I am typing the words

Blue Eisenhower November

Earlier on this day I said the words

Blue Eisenhower November

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 No.142129

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 No.142130

>>142129

His lack of understanding of Crowley is cringe.

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 No.142135

>>142130

What's there to understand? He was a gay cult leader who used his position of influence to gather a harem of gay sex slaves. Didn't even believe in magic.

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 No.142137

>>142135

>What's there to understand?

You couldn’t possibly understand. And I guess that’s the whole point.

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 No.142140

>>142137

yeah ritual sodomy is real profound

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 No.142144

>>142140

DESHOU??

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 No.142152

Whoever's BO at 8 moe, wake up. We've got work to do.

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 No.142154

>>142152

We need banners. Last I checked they are no longer hosted on this site.

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 No.142178

Guys, I’m losing my mind. Since 2021, more and more people don’t seem real to me. On TV, online or in person. People I knew and people I didn’t. They are just not real. They’ve been replaced with empty facsimiles is the best way I can describe it. They don’t realize this and I think I might actually be going insane.

People on old videos, however, are real. I can feel it. It’s a very weird feeling which tells me I’m living in a pretend reality.

I don’t want to believe this because it’s fucking nuts, but I can’t help but feel it. What the hell is going on?

I have no history of mental illness.

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 No.142179

>>142178

this might tell you alot about what's going on: https://www.montalk.net/HumanSimulacra.pdf

or perhaps you're having a different issue

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 No.142181

>>142179

What I'm feeling is way too widespread to be real. It would mean literally half the population are portals.

I'm actually starting to suspect the vax is doing this to me.

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 No.142183

>>142181

half the population being organic portals? that's alot less than I thought, so it's probably a pretty reasonable assumption

anyway, give this a read while you're at it; I forgot if it says anything about what percentage of people are spiritless humans or have sleeping spirits:

https://montalk.net/matrix/157/spiritless-humans

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 No.142185

>>142183

I know about that article. But this is different. This is people who were normal, who suddenly feel empty. Either their spirit has fucked off, or something is wrong with me. The latter being more probable.

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 No.142186

>>142185

oh right, forgot; people who'd used to be normal

the fact that you can feel that people in old videos are real tell me that the problem is with them, and not you; try watching old videos that you haven't seen before, and see if most of those people feel real

for all I know, the genetic modification serums that they got injected with have put their spirits to sleep as a result of making their genetic material not resonate as much with their spirits, but idk how that shit actually works

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 No.142206

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 No.142210

People say that Kabbalah was stolen by the Jews. Is there any proof to this?

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 No.142261

I'd like to learn about the nature of the Akasha; what should I read?

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 No.142294

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