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No more splintered boards. We now have moderation at /christian/


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Welcome! This is a board for Christian discussion. Please read the rules linked above before posting.

Please keep all meta discussion in this thread.

>Even on a Christian board, only post on this website over tor or a trusted VPN

This board was begun as an alternative to /christian/ at a time when that board was poorly moderated. That is in the past. It does not matter anymore. Both camps have legitimate complaints about the other, but "the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone". It would be a good thing to end the dispute and not be splintered any longer.

Please, do not post on /christian/ at all

Since the migration to 8kun, there has been no moderation on /christian/. The last BO and crew publicly announced that they had no intent to return and did not want it to migrate, even saying they didn't support the very premise of a Christian anonymous imageboard. In the absence of any moderation there, this board is obviously preferable as the face of Christianity on 8kun. In this interest, we need to entirely boycott /christian/ so it drops in the list based on active ISP count.

If and when there is a new BO with fair moderation practices, we should move back to /christian/. Just for legacy's sake, it would be better to carry on into the future as one board on /christian/. Full disclosure, I requested ownership more than a month ago.

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History of 8chan's Christian boards

Help me connect the dots. Long-time posters please add what you know.

This is almost entirely pieced together from snapshots on web.archive.org


8chan created by hotwheels in October


/christian/ created in September

Alex is the owner. He's a Southern Baptist.

Views on moderation: "I am personally a Baptist, and will defend my views as a poster, but dialogue and points made from other perspectives won't be deleted."

The board reaches 6,000 posts by the end of the year.


The 8chan site has some outages and breaks in November as development progresses.

/christian/ IRC channel couples the board

Alex remains BO

Board hits 238,000 posts by the end of the year.

/christianity/ created in February

BO cites perception of censorship on /christian/ as the cause.

"I noticed /christian/ had a lot of censorship so I'm starting a new board. I promise not to delete anything simply because I disagree."

Dead board. 154 posts by the end of the year.

/christ/ is created in April. It had some activity prior in 2014, but was somehow deleted or lost and the new first post is 4/19/15.

Rules: "This board is for Christians of all denominations; that being said, people of other religions, agnostics, and atheists, are very welcome to post, ask questions, and debate with us if they so desire. Spam will be deleted. This board is also SFW."

Board log is made available and stickied at top.

The board reaches 8,800 posts by the end of the year.


/chrisitan/ swaps hands in June. New BO "Peter" is a Catholic who makes a goal of stopping a spam and CP problem the board was facing.

New set of rules at the end of June. Ban policy: 1 day for rule violation, permaban for repeat offenders.

Board log requested, unclear if it is provided.

Unnamed catholic becomes BO in July.

Ezekiel becomes BO in August. Previously the owner of a dead 16chan christian board.

Tutor is a volunteer.

Baptist vs Catholic funposting epidemic begins.

Discord active

366,000 posts by the end of the year

/christ/ changes BO in August to "nazarenefag"

13,00 posts by the end of the year

/christianity/ irrelevant


/christian/ volunteer roster grows, almost exclusively catholic with one baptist and one presbyterian by July.

Perception of anti Protestant (especially Baptist) bias in moderation present

Tutor (Catholic) becomes BO in September.

Ban policy: "Post that break the rules will be met with temporary bans in accordance with the severity of the post, up to 5 days. Permanent bans will be given out for posting pornography, explicit material, after being given multiple temporary bans, and raids or obvious trolling from other boards."

Log is private. Posts are being deleted from threads.

8ch.net/christian/archive activates in July to preserve threads marked for archival

Rolling politics thread set up to remove political discussion from other threads

board reaches 580,000 posts by the end of the year

/christ/ hits 15,000 posts

/christianity/ still irrelevant


Tutor remains BO of /christian/

381 Council of Constantinople version of Nicene creed changed to the definition of a Christian

5 day limit for ban removed from ruleset

Catholic bias in moderation becomes inarguable

Flags disabled

750,000 posts by the end of the year

/christ/ has become notorious for gnostic posters

/christianity/ revived

>2019 (present)

/christian/ is plagued with heavy handed mods who issue flippant permabans

the issue may be exacerbated because of the sharp rise in popularity of VPNs

board enjoys top 10 traffic among all 8chan boards

owner and volunteers see the discord as a preferred tool to congratulate themselves on how catholic they are, board is ancillary

log is sealed tightly

/christ/ is a dead board on life support

the only posts are ctrl+c ctrl+v "saint of the day" threads, and posts complaining about the "saint of the day" threads

/christianity/ is a moderately slow board, 2600 posts in a few months putting it top 40 at this time

no censorship

public log

protestant bent as it serves as a sanctuary from catholic /christian/, but not to the level of a "hugbox" or "echo chamber"

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Spiritual Gifts

How am I to understand spiritual gifts?

Protestants only please.

I am thoroughly convinced of cessationism; the charismatic gifts have ceased. This is the dominant opinion throughout church history until the last 100 years with the introduction of the pentecostal and charismatic movements. The Westminster and London Baptist confession are both cessationist. Here's an article from spurgeon's Metropolitan Tabernacle for cessationism: https://www.metropolitantabernacle.org/Christian-Article/Cessationism-Proving-Charismatic-Gifts-have-Ceased-Sword-and-Trowel-Magazine

But, there are still said to be non-charismatic spiritual gifts that are continuing.

>Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am. However, each man has his own gift from God, one in this manner, and another in that. (1 Cor 7:7)

Does this indicate that every believer has a spiritual gift, like most conclude? I hesitate to say so because Paul is talking about his chastity, being unmarried, and the gift of being unmarried is never listed as a spiritual gift. The whole chapter does not touch on spiritual gifts at all.

These are the alleged lists of spiritual gifts. They do not all match, which isn't necessarily a problem.

Romans 12:6-8


>service (ministry)




>ruling (leading)

>showing mercy

1 Cor 12:4-11


>word of knowledge



>working of miracles


>discerning of spirits


>interpretation of tongues

1 Cor 12:28 (categories?)




>governments (administrations)

>diversities of tongues

Ephesians 4:11 is sometimes also called in, but it talks about offices of "apostle, prohpet, evangelist, pastor, teacher".

Today every kid at church camp or a college bible study is supposed to take a "spiritual gifts test" to find out what gift(s) he has so he can somehow put it into application, like a political compass test or a personality type quiz.

Do these not all fall under the category of charismatic gifts that should have ceased upon the building of the Church, or the closing of the canon? Is there a position that says no spiritual gifts are continuing today?

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Christian anime thread

Let's talk about wholesome entertainment.

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Ortho Roll-Call

How many Orthos we got.

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Haven't seen one of these yet, to my knowledge, so here we go.

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Interracial Marriage

so, guys, I may be barred from joining a church that I've been attending for nearly two years because I told the pastor, in confidence, that I don't *like* interracial marriage. I made it clear that I don't claim any biblical proof for this, but I do consider it a strong opinion/value. sad thing is that these people are like family to me at this point. I don't know how I can leave now.

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How long have you been saved?

How long have you been saved?

Was your household always Christian?

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Jesus spoke aramaic, therefore Peter was pope

I've encountered this argument before. Let's set the record straight.

A Roman Catholic might argue that the church was founded on Peter, not Christ or the confession of Christ, because Jesus says "upon this rock I will build my church". If we speculate that Jesus was speaking Aramaic, it would have been akin to "You are rock. Upon this rock I will build my church", because the words would have been identical. The argument says that this is tantamount to, "upon you I will build my church".

This is a bad argument because the holy scriptures are what were inspired, written in Greek. Speculation about what Jesus might have said in Aramaic is conjecture.

The person making this argument has to:

>establish with certainty that Jesus's conversational language with Peter was Aramaic

>account for the differences in terms when written in Greek

>Prove the doctrine from the Greek anyway, independent of the Aramaic argument.

If the doctrine of Jesus building His church upon Peter is Biblical, it would be present in the koine greek. That is a matter of reasoned debate, but this talk about aramaic is not.

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Knowledge is the path of salvation. Free the light that is inside of you from the Law of the Demiurge who tyrannizes you. The serpent of the garden is knowledge!

“For there exists a great and boundless aeon, whose extent no generation of angels could see, in which is the great invisible Spirit, which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and it was never called by any name.” - Gospel of Judas

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Christian faith rollercoaster

>grow up in communist shithole with overstrained mother

>father killed himself shortly after birth

>no religious education at all

>communist shithole breaks down, now be poor on top of it

>get beaten up so badly in high school that you get diagnosed PTSD and drop out

>get thrown out of home at age 18 for being NEET.

>almost two decades of indulging into porn, masturbation, video games, failed attempts to get gf and other distractions, while being on welfare

>lose all friends, be completely alone, sit at home all day and night

>occasional suicide thoughts

>one day decide to order a Bible and to read about creation and maybe some uplifting stories

>not getting serious about it, just another self-help book

>suddenly the Lord reveals Himself

>have your agnostic world view turned entirely upside down and start believing in Jesus Christ

>realize that you are sinner

>that's a problem

>the Lord tells you clearly what He wants (repent and Matthew 18:20)

>decide to run away from Him for a year

>life gets even worse up to a point were everything falls apart and even mom threatens to cut you off for being such a failure

>with no options left finally decide to give in and do His will

>He heals you from adultery over night

>have the hardest fight with social anxiety demons and

>stumble into the predetermined church on Good Friday

>go through your first and best worship service of your life

>regularly return to church on later days and and meet charitable, non-judging people for the first time in your life

>get welcomed by the pastor and set on a journey to baptism

>all this despite having nobody introduce you to them

My old self is still in disbelief. Is this really happening? What the heck did the Bible do to me? My heathen family doesn't know anything about those recent developments. How do I tell them I'm on my way to be baptized?

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what is the best form of protestantism and what is the worst form? why? i need a denomination.

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Is the Holy Ghost female?

Is the Holy Ghost female? I know in Greek he is neuter but isn't the Holy Spirit in Aramaic feminine? Jesus spoke Aramaic so would he have used female pronouns for the Holy Ghost?

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Meme thread

Meme thread

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Calvinism, molinism, and arminianism are all wrong, provisionism (or "traditionalism" in the SBC) is correct.

Exegetically change my mind.

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Got in a fight with a fellow Catholic and I don't know what to think...

I was alone in a café in Fatima drinking my Fanta when I noticed a group of Catholic preppies (5 boys and 2 girls) sitting next to me drinking beer and bantering among themselves. One of them was wearing a medallion of Our Lady and was going on and on about how the communists are ruining the Church and how the "fags" are destroying the sanctity of marriage and so on. I thought to myself:

>"Nice, a fellow Traditional Catholic who isn't afraid to call out the reprobates".

I joined them after a while and we started talking about the moral degradation of the Church, the homosexual priests, the people being pro-abortion and female ordination and so on and, at some point, I turned to them and said:

>"Fags are a danger to the Church, that's true. But we need to remind ourselves that the first phenomenon that contributed to the desacralization of the Holy Matrimony was not fags getting married but the acceptance of divorce. In my opinion, and this is backed up by the catechism of the Catholic Church, a divorced man is as much as a degenerate as a homosexual".

Then there was a strange silence and I knew I done goofed. Dude got up and punched me in the nose:

>"Who are you calling a degenerate, you FRICKing queer? Get out of here!"

I threw my Fanta at him and we scuffled a bit until one of his friends grabbed me and brought me outside. Turns out 3 of them, 2 boys and 1 girl, were divorced. I swear none of them was older than 35.

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Podcast Recommendations Thread

Last thread died

Share /christianity/ related podcasts here.

Please share one podcast per post, and provide


>Subscribe link

>Brief description

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Wisdom in Kosher dieting laws

Any animal that has a split hoof and chews the cud is deemed "clean"; the pig does have a split hoof but it does not chew the cud so it is "unclean".

I find this wise because any animal that is so primitive a part of its digestive process is regurgitating the food it eats and swallowing it again must be so unintelligent that it doesn't care about being locked in a cage for its entire life.

A pig has about as intelligent as a dog so when you eat pork you might as well be funding an industry that locks dogs in cages for their entire lives.

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This isn't spam, a cry for help

Brain wash, give me a reason to believe

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Torah Observant Christianity

I am relatively new to Christianity, being raised in a secular home through my childhood and having no faith into my adult life outside of vapid consumerism. I have recently come across Torah-Observant Christianity and it seems to resonate very much with me; I feel called by it.

>inb4 Judaism & /pol/tier screeching

This is nothing like Judaism.

To clarify, I follow the Law to the best of my ability out of love and obedience to the Most High. I do not believe that any works nor observance of the teachings are done as a requirement of salvation, but rather faith alone in the Grace of our Savior Yeshua the Messiah is the only way to be saved. Also, I have nor want nothing to do with the paganism that the star of David/Remphan represents (gentile usurpers).

Can we get a discussion going on this? What are your thoughts on the Law? My eyes and ears are receptive to what you have to say, and I would love to hear from my Christian brothers and sisters of all backgrounds. Thank you, and God be with you always.

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Martin Luther and Capitalism

If I recall correctly Martin Luther was accused of facilitating a type of Christianity that will allow everyone to be as greedy as possible and completely disregard their fellow human being in their quest to gain as much wealth as possible. During Luther's time what we now know as capitalism was on the rise when the catholic church's power was waning and we saw less serfs serving landlords and more mercantilism and mobility.

Did Luther call out capitalism for the evil that it is? Not coveting is one of the 10 commandments and Paul says in Colossians 3:5 that greed is idolatry.

I'm asking you all because whenever I search "Martin Luther and Capitalism" I just get a bunch of articles on Martin Luther King Jr. allegedly being a communist.

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Jesus is God

Daily reminder that Jesus is God and the second person in the holy Trinity. :) If you do not believe in this then you are not Christian and shouldn't be on this board! :D Please repent. :)

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End of christchannel.xyz

Christchannel.xyz has come to a close. I started it during the 8chan hiatus, but now we're back and the userbase all came here.

If you ever posted, thanks for coming. It was fun.

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what's the age of sexual consent according to the Bible?

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Is it a sin? Prove me wrong and don't use scripture that applies to living beings. Hentai is erotica.

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christ chan thread

post christ chans

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Who are the Pentecostals exactly?

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GOD Healed Man's Cancer 5 Times!


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Change background back to the light

I hate dark background . what are you try to do BO ? are you secret satan worshiper ?


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Have you accepted the work of Almighty God in the last days?

Brothers and Sisters, it is a universally-accepted truth in the religious world that many of the signs of the end times have been achieved, and we are all eagerly awaiting for the coming of the Lord. Yet for all the time we've spent looking up at the clouds waiting for Christ to return in the open, we've seen nary a trace of the Lord Jesus, all the while the Churches on Earth fall into desolation. Every day, pastors walk about preaching human opinions and imaginations like the Trinity, and the religious world looks more and more like the religious Babylon of Revelation.

One day, Sister Wei fellowshipped with me that the Lord had already come, and that He is Almighty God, who has come in the flesh to carry out the work of judging, chastising, and purifying man. Incredulous, I asked "how could it be that the Lord has come? Isn't the Lord going to return in the sky for everyone to see? (Matthew 24:30)"

The manner of the Lord's return

Sister Jia fellowshipped, "while it is true that there will be a visible coming, the Bible also prophesies a hidden coming. Here, let us read some verses:"

'''For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.''' (Luke 17:24-25)

Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. (Revelation 16:15)

The Bible says that when the Lord comes, we will hear the Gospel of the Lord's return preached to us by others. "And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him."(Matthew 25:4) At that time, we must be like the wise virgins in the passage, ready to welcome the Lord's coming, or else he will tell us "Verily I say unto you, I know you not." (Matthew 25:12) Those who reject the second coming of the Lord will not partake in the salvation that He brings with Himself for His second coming. (Hebrews 9:28)

The necessity of the Lord's return

Sister Jia continued her fellowshipping by broaching the subject of salvation. "The religious world teaches that we are saved by faith alone, but does the conform to the message of God's words, or simply to man's opinions and imagination? I think you will see that it's actually the latter."

Sister Jia cited the verses Hebrews 10:26: "For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins" and 1 Peter 1:16: "'Be holy, for I am holy."

"The reason why this is important," Sister Jia continued, "is because being saved and achieving full salvation are not the same thing. The work of Lord Jesus ended the Age of Law and brought the Age of Grace, allowing people to obtain atonement for their sins by believing in the Gospel. But even after acquiring atonement, our sinful, Satanic disposition remains. That's why the Lord has returned as Almighty God to begin the Age of Kingdom, expressing words of judgment that cleanse those who obey Him of their Satanic disposition, allowing them to enter the kingdom of Heaven through His salvation of the last days."

The importance of the Lord's name

"But why then," I asked, "is the Lord's name no longer Jesus, but rather Almighty God?"

"You see," Sister Jia fellowshipped, "the Lord's name has a special significance. In the Age of Law, it was Jehovah. In the Age of Grace, it was Jesus. In each of these ages, the Lord's name represented the Lord's work in that age. But today, the Lord's name is Almighty God, which encompasses the entirety of His disposition, His majesty, and His sovereignty."

"This truth," Sister Jia continued, "is reflected in the Bible itself. In Revelation 2:17, the Lord says He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, to him I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and a new name written on the stone which no one knows but he who receives it. That is, in the last days, He will have a new name. And indeed we see that in the Book of Revelation, the visions of the future have the name of God as Almighty God. (Revelation 1:8, 11:17)"

So Brothers and Sisters, we must avoid following false Christs, and we must avoid spurning the Lord's work of the last days just because we are afraid of Him being a false Christ. We must not be like those who avoid food for fear of choking. Let us all investigate and obey the work of Almighty God in the last days!

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Your Ideal Heaven

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Certainly Heaven is beyond human conception and imagination… but supposing it weren't, what do you hope Heaven is like? Consider for a moment what you actually want an eternity of humble adoration and praise of God to be, and post it here.

My hope for Heaven is that I can be a spectator of all time. It is truly my great desire to observe every moment of Creation from start to finish, from the microscopic to macroscopic. I want to see every chronological event laid out before me and comprehend it. To understand every natural law, causality, mathematical principle, and why it was designed that way.

Further, and more importantly, I want to witness the full life of every person ever conceived. I desperately want to see and experience vicariously every life experience to come to understand and love every human being, ever. I want to see into their circumstances and see into their minds and motivations and learn how every person's actions influenced every other person. I want to watch the whole life of my loved ones so I can love them more and also my enemies so I can forgive them better. I want to watch my own life from a divine perspective so that I can evaluate myself and, in a sense, relive my life with the wisdom to recognize my mistakes. I want to be present at the moment of every person's death so that I can welcome them into the beatific vision and tell them "don't be afraid, it's all right now," and let them know that they were not alone…

… I know two people who died without another living soul nearby. They died trying to reach out for help and I thought about how sad and terrifying it must have been. I wished with all my heart that I could comfort them in their dying moments. God isn't bounded by time and I hope He grants my request.

I also regret that I cannot explore the depth of human creativity in my life time. If I dedicated every moment of my life to reading every story, watching every movie, and listening to every song written by man, I wouldn't touch a fraction of a measly tenth of a percent of all art. So I hope that I can indulge in every created work in my eternity, and in doing so, come to appreciate the infinitely more complex story God has been weaving.

Finally, I hope that, once every facet of mortal creation has been thoroughly explored, I can simply enjoy communion with all of my brothers and sisters and praise God for the rest of eternity, tending to a garden, maybe, with my loved ones (even my old pets), punctuated by extravagant banquets where we glorify each other, and God directly and by derivative.

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Christianity and meditation

What is Christian meditation and what role does it play in the Christian life? Is mindfulness meditation inherently incompatible with Christian thought and teaching? I have some half-baked takes of my own but I'd like to hear your thoughts first.

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A Protestant Talks With a Catholic Theologian

Our guy Matt made another video where he simulates this board in real life

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If paradise was never a thing, would faith in God still be possible? I think no one would bother with religion, if eternal life wasn't promised. And deep inside, I'm not sure I would be christian if there was no life after death.

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Baptist General

A thread dedicated to Baptist discussion and theology.

>The Gospel

>>1 Corinthians 15:1-4__

>"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

>>Romans 10:9-10__

>"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

>Baptist Confessions, and Statements

>London Baptist Confession of 1689 (Calvinist): http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/bcf.pdf

>Baptist Faith and Message (Arminian Inclusive): http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

>Notable Modern Baptist Teachers

>Albert Mohler: https://albertmohler.com/

>James White: https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

>John Piper: https://www.desiringgod.org/

>Leighton Flowers: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrLeightonFlowers

>Robert Truelove: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQPPHf_DdqfJP5RyosVxhZA

>Steven Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611

>William Lane Craig: https://www.reasonablefaith.org

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Documentaries/videos to convince somebody of the faith in Russian

Hey Russiabros,

I am looking for good documentaries, apologetic videos to bring somebody who doesn't believe in God to the faith. I have a long-distance gf in Russia, and she's a good and kind person, but in a toxic atheist environment. All her friends are leftists, and she has a fedora-tier aversion towards even engaging with Christianity, and refuses to read even one book of the Bible. So much so that our reationship is about to fail, which would not only be a loss for our future, but for hers as well because she's 24, and if she doesn't start thinking seriously about family and God now, maybe she never will.

Thank you in advance orthobros and God bless you!

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Problem of evil

How would /christianity/ solve the problem of evil? I am not a christian myself but i would like to know your answers and create fruitful argument about the matter.

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Should guns be banned?

Should we, as Christians, support banning guns? These mass shootings are getting out of hand.

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High tech high life.

What would christian cyber punk life style look like?

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the end is nigh?

>locusts hordes in Africa

>wars and rumors of war

>pandemic virus spreading

>politics becoming insane

>people in general going insane

>Australia is on fire

Ok guys I think s— is getting real now….

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Vatican II?

Thoughts on this council (1962-1965)?

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Catholicism and Homosexuality

Let's have an earnest discussion on this topic, because up until now it was shut down on /christian/ every single time by the Catholic mods. How prevalent is homosexuality among the Catholic clergy, and if homosexuality and pedophilia are as common as most sources claim (+50%), then how can the Catholic church even be recognized as a valid Christian organisation? I know Catholics will claim that this is all somehow fabricated and that only <0.1% of priests are deviants, etc. pp., but here are my sources, and I can find many more:

>“You’re so attractive,” he said. “You’re in great shape and you have beautiful clothes. Come on, you must know that everyone is staring at you all the time. You know full well that every guy here including the priests and even the bishop would f*ck you if they had the chance.”


>But gay men probably make up at least 30 to 40 percent of the American Catholic clergy, according to dozens of estimates from gay priests themselves and researchers. Some priests say the number is closer to 75 percent. One priest in Wisconsin said he assumed every priest was gay unless he knows for a fact he is not. A priest in Florida put it this way: “A third are gay, a third are straight and a third don’t know what the hell they are.”


>In September 2018 a report was leaked that reported that 3,677 children in Germany, mostly boys under age 13, were sexually abused by Catholic clergy members over the past seven decades". About 1,670 church workers, or 4.4% of the clergy, had been involved in the abuse which is "shocking and probably just the tip of the iceberg" according to Germany's Federal Justice Minister Katarina Barley[68]


I'm looking forward to a serious Catholic response to this.

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John 14:28

All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, “Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God.”

The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many f his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father.

Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as ‘son’ are ‘pias’ and ‘paida’ which mean ‘servant,’ or ‘son in the sense of servant.’ These are translated to ‘son’ in reference to Jesus and ‘servant’ in reference to all others in some translations of the Bible. So, consistent with other verses, Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s servant.

Additional problems with Trinity

To a christian, God had to take human form to understand temptation and human suffering, but the concept is not based on any clear words of Jesus. In contrast, God does not need to be tempted and suffer in order to be able to understand and forgive man’s sins, for He is the all knowing Creator of man. This is expressed in the verse:

‘And the Lord said: ‘I have surely seen the affliction of My people that are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their taskmasters; for I know their pains.’ (Exodus 3:7)

God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues to forgive without any assistance. When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere repentance to receive forgiveness. Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before God and be saved is made to all humankind.

‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.’ (Isaiah 45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10)

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Lol you actually believe in this stuff?

>Vespasian as yet lacked prestige and a certain divinity, so to speak, since he was an unexpected and still new-made emperor; but these also were given him.

>A man of the people who was blind, and another who was lame, came to him together as he sat on the tribunal, begging for the help for their disorders which Serapis had promised in a dream; for the god declared that Vespasian would restore the eyes, if he would spit upon them, and give strength to the leg, if he would deign to touch it with his heel.

>Though he had hardly any faith that this could possibly succeed, and therefore shrank even from making the attempt, he was at last prevailed upon by his friends and tried both things in public before a large crowd; and with success. At this same time, by the direction of certain soothsayers, some vases of antique workmanship were dug up in a consecrated spot at Tegea in Arcadia and on them was an image very like Vespasian.

>Suetonius (CE 121)

>In the course of the months which Vespasian spent at Alexandria, waiting for the regular season of summer winds when the sea could be relied upon, many miracles occurred. These seemed to be indications that Vespasian enjoyed heaven’s blessing and that the gods showed a certain leaning towards him.

>Among the lower classes at Alexandria was a blind man whom everybody knew as such. One day this fellow threw himself at Vespasian’s feet, imploring him with groans to heal his blindness. He had been told to make this request by Serapis, the favourite god of a nation much addicted to strange beliefs. He asked that it might please the emperor to anoint his cheeks and eyeballs with the water of his mouth. A second petitioner, who suffered from a withered hand, pleaded his case too, also on the advice of Serapis: would Caesar tread upon him with the imperial foot?

>At first Vespasian laughed at them and refused. When the two insisted, he hesitated. At one moment he was alarmed by the thought that he would be accused of vanity if he failed. At the next, the urgent appeals of the two victims and the flatteries of his entourage made him sanguine of success.

>Finally he asked the doctors for an opinion whether blindness and atrophy of this sort were curable by human means. The doctors were eloquent on the various possibilities. The blind man’s vision was not completely destroyed, and if certain impediments were removed his sight would return. The other victim’s limb had been dislocated, but could be put right by correct treatment. Perhaps this was the will of the gods, they added; perhaps the emperor had been chosen to perform a miracle. Anyhow, if a cure were effected, the credit would go to the ruler; if it failed, the poor wretches would have to bear the ridicule.

>So Vespasian felt that his destiny gave him the key to every door and that nothing now defied belief. With a smiling expression and surrounded by an expectant crowd of bystanders, he did what was asked. Instantly the cripple recovered the use of his hand and the light of day dawned again upon his blind companion. Both these incidents are still vouched for by eye-witnesses, though there is now nothing to be gained by lying.

>Tacitus (CE 116)

Yep your religion is fake. "Miracles" like these were pretty common back then, spittle was believed by many ancients to have healing powers and Jesus clearly thought the same when he used the technique. Your Lord was nothing but a magician, get over it.

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Pope slaps worshipper's hand

The audacity of this guy. Tells people to be patient and to import millions of violent throat cutting maniacs. Slaps a worshippers hand and shouts at her instead of giving her a second of his time. To be clear, the woman was absolutely wrong in grabbing him. But there is nothing that justifies this reaction. Personally, it was hard and heartbreaking to watch. Almost brought tears to my eyes even. Can you imagine being a devout worshipper of Christ, waiting for a chance to meet his representative on earth your whole life, and then being treated like a dog by him? Just how long are you catholics going to put up with this absolute heretic?


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Finding a church

I am very happy. I moved but I have found a great new church to join.

God is good. I'm thankful that the Christians who moved here before me planted churches and a Christian culture for me to inherit and add to.

Are you a member of a church? It's hard when you're not

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Was the flood exaggerated?

In the bible it says that only Noah and his family survived the great flood. Is it possible that this is only hyperbole and the great flood was exaggerated?

I ask because in Numbers 13:32-33 the bible describes Israelite spies finding the descendants of the Nephilim.

My first thought was it was just Israelite spies were exaggerating to avoid conflict, however, this is unlikely as the bible itself says:

"he descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim".

How could there be decedents of the Nelphilim on the earth in the time of Moses if no one but Noah and his family survived the flood?

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Worship Jehovah God alone.

Jehovah is God Almighty, there is no other. The trinity doctrine is fake. Worshiping Jesus is blasphemy! Jesus is the only begotten son of Jehovah Almighty, he is his chief archangel and was instructed by Jehovah to create the universe but all worship and glory passes through Jesus to Jehovah and Jehovah alone!








JOHN 1:1

Read the Greek it says the Word is a god which the Bible uses for angels, Jesus is not God! Trinity believers are polytheists! You worship 3 gods admit it when the Bible says there is only one true God who exists outside of all things. We worship only one true God, we are monotheists, trinity believers are polytheistic! Jesus is a creation of Jehovah and exists in a created state. Repent! Repent of your idolatry and worship Jehovah alone. Jesus will lead you to Jehovah through his loving force the Holy Spirit, but Jesus wants you to worship Jehovah and Jehovah ALONE!

“I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.






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The Gospel

>the world is fallen - this is a universally accepted truth that shows itself every single day by people having the innate urge to correct a perceived moral wrong in society or the human condition. Your very job as a glowie speaks to this as, if the world were not fallen, then you would not be employed

>the Bible provides us a narrative that perfectly explains the current condition of the world

>in the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth, and He created Man in His own image (a being with free will and dominion)

>He gave unto Man the Earth, and tested him with just one rule: do not eat of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil

>tempted by Satan, Man ate the fruit and committed the first Sin, which means to break the design and desires of God

>God removed Man from Paradise and left him to be his own desires ; i.e. left him as sovereign over a fallen world

>the cost of eating of the fruit, however, is death. God will some day come back to pay that debt unto Man

>however, God is righteousness and loves Man, and so He set out on a plan to ransom Man and return Him to Paradise

>God spoke to Man through His Prophets for millenia, setting apart a peoples, the Israelites, to pave the way for salvation unto the world

>God gave us glimpses of this plan throughout many an ordeal, such as what was celebrated on Passover: the "passing over" of God's wrath from those Egyptians who sanctified their homes through the blood of a Lamb and ate of its flesh

>He told us a Christ - a "Messiah", meaning an anointed one; meaning a King will come unto the Earth and bring salvation to God's people

>when the world was finally at the desired place, God Himself came unto the world as the man, Jesus of Nazareth aka Jesus son of Joseph aka Jesus Christ aka Jesus the King

>He came unto the world to preach to Man directly, eye to eye, and to show him the Way to repentence: to trust in Him and Him alone, so that His righteousness lived as Man may account for the unrighteousness of Man living according to his own desires

>to fulfill this, He gave Himself up to die on a cross in order to pay for the sins of the world. Thus, if you put your trust and worship unto Christ Jesus, then He has paid for your transgressions and you have adopted His righteousness in coming Judgment

>however, the Lord Christ, in order to show us that He is greater than Death, even death on a cross, resurrected after three days

>He sent out missionaries to preach the good news of His plan for attunement for Mankind - the Gospel

>at the end of the age, Lord Jesus will return to judge the world for their transgressions, and all of those who choose to reject Him in favor of their own desires, as the first Man did with the fruit, will be punished with Death in Hell, a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth. Those who chose to accept God's sacrifice will be grafted back unto His plan and return to Paradise, where He will dwell with God as His people

In order to be right with God, you need to accept the free gift of Jesus Christ, repent of your sins and reject your unrighteous desires. It is my wish that every federal agent in this website hear the Gospel and be Saved. God bless.

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Just accept it, there is no God.

How could you believe when not only do you not have a single shred of evidence for your beliefs, but all the evidence we do have points against your beliefs.

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Should We Rename Planets To Be After Angels/Prophets/ And Saints Instead Of Pagan Deities?

As the title says should we rename planets after angels/prophets/saints instead of pagan deities? In Exodus 23:13 it said “Pay attention to that I have said to you, and make no mention of the names of other gods, nor let it be herd from your lips.” when we named planets after pagan deities we are force to mention their names and this becomes unavoidable for Christians who want to be devout and I see this as being unnecessary as before the west pretty much globalized the world, different countries and cultures had named the planets differently from each other and I don’t see why as a Christian dominated society that we couldn’t do the same especially since we are not talking about historical records, relics, or another person’s religion or spiritual beliefs

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Nature Of Mary Thread.

Is Mary the Theotokos (Mother of God)?

Was Mary immaculately conceived? Is she sinless?

Is Mary the Queen of Heaven?

Was Mary's body taken into heaven?

Is Mary the greatest creature of God?

Is Mary a perpetual virgin?

Did Mary not feel pain at the birth of Jesus Christ?

Is Mary the mother of Christians?

Is Mary the Mediatrix? Is she the Co-Redemptirx?

Who is Mary?

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Most Foundational Belief

What is your most foundational Christian belief? I think I might have to say biblical inerrancy, but prior to that, I believe God is Logos and Logos is is revealed fully through Jesus Christ and to an extent through nature and there is a sense in which the Bible is Logos in book form. So I almost rest easy (not easy enough) thinking my biblical inerrancy comes from my Christology. I would think many Protestants would believe in Sola Scriptura on a very foundational level, but I only believe in Sola Scriptura to the extent that I don’t ~know~ if any source of doctrine, rule of faith and practice, etc other than the Bible is God breathed. That is to say, I feel like I’m straddling the line between Catholic and Protestant or even Baptist if we consider that distinct from Protestant. I am not trained in rigorous thinking and would appreciate seeing others’ answer to the first question to help refine my own beliefs. Secondarily, I hope it may even shed light on how united we are.

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Christian Skateboards

Lads… should I?

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Foundations Restored

Has anyone heard about this? I've known about Hugh Owen and the Kolbe Center for awhile now, but I just found out about this 17 part documentary they made about the history of evolutionary theory. The first two episodes are free (just enter a fake e-mail and you can watch them) and it goes into some interesting history. I didn't know about the occult influences on Descartes and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.


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trinity vs. non-duality

Hey, can somebody on here explain to me what this picture out of the Book of the Holy Trinity means and what the latin(?) text says? Also how the trinity compares with Non-Duality (advaita vedanta).

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Moral Scenario

>a cop is chasing down a suspect of a crime

>suspect pulls a knife the cop points his gun at him

>suspects says there isn't enough evidence to convict him and he will just get off and hurt more people (for arguments sake lets assume this is true.)

>suspect drops the knife and agrees to go quitely

>cops shoots him

what is /christianity/'s take of this sort of scenario

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Catholicism and Papal Primacy Question

So, please forgive me if this is a stupid question, it's been a very long time since I looked at anything about Catholicism and I'm only starting to get back into religion myself.

Anyway, if Pope Francis decided to blatantly say that Jesus was homosexual, would that have to be counted as fact by the Church? I think I remember that what the pope says has equal standing to Scripture, and since the Bible never explicitly states Jesus to not be homosexual(I think), wouldn't that statement be considered fact? If this specific example can be refuted through Scripture, forgive me, but the principle of the question remains the same.

Is a Papal Decree still equal to Scripture even if it is utterly ridiculous?

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Coronavirus Apocalypse?

Is God about to send a plague on the world?

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Mormonism IS NOT Christian

Mormons ARE NOT saved

For this reason, we need to counter mormonism wherever we can.

>Famous "Mormon Jesus" cartoon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BqLZ8UoZk

>"Latter Day Satans: Mormons Exposed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la41vzXtnwU (Steven Anderson & Co documentary)

QRD on the Mormon history:

>2nd great awakening in the US

>Poor, charismatic young man Joseph Smith claims to have visions and to uncover ancient, undiscovered scriptures in New York

>Scriptures are translated, followers are gathered

>Smith is a Prophet

>Move to Missouri

>Driven out, move to Illinois

>Driven out, Smith killed by angry mob, begin exodus to unsettled Utah

>Time passes. Exponentially increase via birthrates and zealous proselytizing

>Doctrine develops. US govt intervenes. Schisms form.

Mormon doctrine basics:

>4 holy books: Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price

>President is a prophet who regularly receives special revelation from God regarding doctrine

>Almost everyone goes to heaven, which has several levels

>There are an infinite number of gods and worlds

>Everyone previously had a spiritual life before physical birth

>Satan and Jesus are brothers

>Mormons ultimately strive to become Gods of other worlds in the afterlife

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Ancient British Church

>The Ancient British Church was a British religious movement founded by Jules Ferrette (Mar Julius) and Richard Williams Morgan (Mar Pelagius).[1]

>The Ancient British Church was founded circa 1874 as a restoration of the Christian church of the first millennium in the British Isles.

>The leader of the Ancient British Church was styled as "British Patriarch".

>Although the name Ancient British Church is no longer used, a number of present-day bodies may be said to have derived (or partly derived) from the Ancient British Church, for example the British Orthodox Church, the Celtic Orthodox Church, the Evangelical Apostolic Church of North America (Syro-Chaldean), and the Ancient British Church in North America. The Free Protestant Episcopal Church (which in 2012 adopted the name Anglican Free Communion) was merged or very closely linked with the Ancient British Church from 1897 until 1939 and from 1900 to 1939 leadership of these two bodies coincided in the same sequence of individuals.


Very interesting

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Being a kissless virgin is not weird.

Some people think its weird that I am still a virgin at 20. Sometimes people pick fun at me for it. But right now I am waiting for God to send me a woman. I do not want to be a fornicator. But I am content if God is leading me down another path, a more holy path. Marriage between a man and a woman is a beautiful and very holy thing. But in these last days it is better to be celibate. Marriage is here for those who cannot control their passions. But we know that the Word of God teaches us all things, including how to control our weak emotions that stem from our body, not our mind. We know that reason is above fleshly things and our appetites. So brothers, sisters, if you must marry then do so! And have an abundance of children like St. Peter! :) But to others who choose the path that Christ lead, and the path St. Paul followed, many blessings to you! :)

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Intelligent Design

Just wanted to share this incredible resource on Intelligent Design. The videos on this channel are very well produced, and are narrated by professional scientists and professors. Video after video BTFOs the materialistic, evolutionary worldview.

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So I recently started doing discipleship at my church (I’m still a bit new in my walk), and my leader says that I’m too fixated on information than my actual walk. I will account for the fact that my prayer life is a bit lacking, but nonetheless this knowledge is important no? I’m just fascinated by the biblical basis for the Khazarian Jews (not real Jews), Illuminati, the beast system, E.Ts (fallen angels), nephilim, and the rapture. These aren’t really topics that most churches cover b/c they’re too controversial, but I’m just too curious. It gives me better insight on the will of Jesus so I can understand the word to my full capacity.

Anyway, he brought up that this information is distracting me from my walk, but it’s not like I’m obsessed with it. I just enjoy discussing it b/c it’s a bit taboo. I’m aware life has a deeper meaning than knowledge and that most of that information is irrelevant to me, but it’s relevant to God, so I feel like it’s something I should know if I should continue to do his work. How could I call myself a Christian if I couldn’t explain these things?

What do you guys think? I’m sure a good bit of you are hip to end times prophecy and Jewish history. Is this information part of my walk or distracting me from it?

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US Supreme Court set to decide whether a cross is promotion of religion

>The Supreme Court is diving into a debate about the place of religious symbols in public life in a case about a cross-shaped war memorial in Maryland.

>The case the high court is hearing Wednesday involves a 40-foot-tall, concrete cross on a large, grassy highway median in Maryland, just outside Washington. The nearly 100-year-old cross was built as a memorial to area residents who died in World War I.

>The District of Columbia-based American Humanist Association say the cross should be moved to private property or modified into a nonreligious monument such as a slab or obelisk. The group lost the first round in court, but in 2017 an appeals court ruled the cross unconstitutional.

>Defending the cross at the high court are The American Legion, which raised money for the cross and completed it in 1925, and Maryland officials, who took over maintenance of the cross nearly 60 years ago to preserve it and address traffic safety concerns. Maryland officials argue that the cross doesn’t violate the Constitution because it has a secular purpose and meaning.


The obvious answer is that the cross represents Christianity, but this is no issue with the establishment clause of the First Amendment

<Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

This is set up to be a win for conservatives that sets precedent for more ambiguous cases

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sinless people go to heaven, e.g. aborted babies?

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Sex is for married heterosexual couples only, says Church of England



>Bishops have issued pastoral guidance in response to the recent introduction to mixed-sex civil partnerships, which says: “For Christians, marriage – that is, the lifelong union between a man and a woman, contracted with the making of vows – remains the proper context for sexual activity.”

>The church “seeks to uphold that standard” in its approach to civil partnerships, and “to affirm the value of committed, sexually abstinent friendships” within such partnerships.

>It adds: “Sexual relationships outside heterosexual marriage are regarded as falling short of God’s purpose for human beings.”

>The Civil Partnership Act came into force in December 2005, allowing same-sex couples to acquire a legal status and rights in relation to property, inheritance and tax entitlement. In 2013, same sex marriage was legalised.

>The C of E does not permit same-sex marriage. It allows clergy to be in same-sex civil partnerships as long as they are sexually abstinent.

Surprising to see a sane voice in leadership of the C of E, but there's no turning that sinking ship around as a church

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Who is Israel?

First draft of an infograph clarifying who Israel is.

Considering adding another section "these are edomites", arguing the disconnect between modern and biblical Jews

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I want to know, cathobros. What are your reasons for not being a sedevacantist? I saw this video and they seem to have a good argument.


pic unrelated

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Does oinos mean wine or grape juice?

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Purity/NoFap/Anti-Porn Thread

Alright guys, I know that /christian/ already has this thread, but we have all probably been permabanned from there, and so we should have our own. I don't know what the BO thinks abut pinning threads like this or this (>>3945), but maybe he should think about it.

Pornography is a universal problem that probably affects many of us here. It is completely evil and a battle that no Christian should fight alone - hopefully we can mutually encourage and help one another in this thread.

If anyone is struggling and needs building up, or wants to share what God has done for them to defeat sexual sin, please post about it.

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Who do you identify with the most in the Bible?

Which person of the Bible do you most identify with? For me it's Solomon.

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8kun NSFW Remover

If you're interested, here's a script to automatically remove NSFW boards from the boardlist


You'll need to use an extension like violentmonkey


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Dealing with the Unfaithful?

Recently, whenever I hear of people either irl or on social media talking about clearly anti-Christian concepts (i.e. "just chop your balls off bro its totally healthy" or "its MY body, I do what -I- WANT"), I get extremely heated and I have to hold myself back from overreacting. While I believe its perfectly healthy and even encouraged to react in the face of these, I don't think its particularly healthy to, for example, punch my phone screen in a rage.

Does anyone have advice for what I can do to calm myself so I don't go full Crusades mode on someone? Is there anything we can do to spread the faith and God's word to counter this widespread meme?

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Jesus Film complete (English) HD

This is a movie about our Lord Jesus. Worship Jesus. Amen.

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Did anyone see this? Opinions?

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Turn the other cheek

Why is this bulls— in the Bible? Christians don't follow it. It goes against natural law. Everyone always finds some excuse to not follow it and those who do follow it are always literal soycucks or children. It's just bad advice and every adult has enough life experience to know this. It also directly contradicts other books of the Bible like the OT law and Sirach so why is it even there in the same chapter Jesus says to follow the OT?

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Is there anything we christanon could do

To make japanese know Jesus? Even in futaba channel

It really makes my head tingle how spiritually dry they are.

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stopped masturbating and stuff, and im becoming increasingly religious

about 2 days ago i stopped masturbating, and i plan on not doing such for the rest of my life. i've actively read the bible, and the such. is this a normal experience, or is it me trying to cling on to some kind of group because of my personal choices?

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E. Michael Jones vs Styx on whether porn should or can be banned and its effects


Start of the debate with opening speech for E. Michael Jones at minute 4:24


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Owen Benjamin

Does /christianity/ have any thoughts on him? He's rough around the edges for sure but he speaks a lot of truth. I'm not so much talking about the flat earth/moon landing stuff but more his way of life.

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Non-Chalcedonian Orthodox

Any non-Chalcedonian Orthodox on here?

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Aerial Toll Houses

Are they real?

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Are Protestant distinctives found in the early church?

The answer is yes!

This is the central argument around here, and Matt Slick at CARM just made a video about it.

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Did Jesus die a virgin?

Or was it implied he was having sex with those girls?

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Catholic Flat Earth

Most of us are aware that geocentrism is the logical position to take as a Catholic (refer to Galileo case and consensus from Church Fathers and other saints). But what about the flat earth?

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Reminder that this guy is in hell and shouldn't be revered as a Christian role model.

Reminder that liberal Christianity is a completely different religion altogether than historic Christianity.

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Lost bible reading eunuch

This passage of the Egyptian eunuch asking the Christian to explain him the scriptures seems quite self evidently anti free style interpretation and sola scriptura. It determines that an outside authority is needed to properly infer meaning out of the bible.

What's the protbros take on it?

Acts 8:26-40

So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?”

31 And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him.

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>"Christians" don't have to be your audience. "Christianity" is over.

>We Might Be Witnessing The "Death of A Religion"

>An awful week to care about Christendom

>The End of Christians

>It's Dangerous to Go Alone: Why Are Christians So Angry?

>Antisemitism, Xenophobia, and ecological disasters: It's a horrible time to consider yourself a Christian

>Traditions Are Leaving "Christians" Behind

>A Guide to Ending "Christians"

>The globalized effect – welcome to the end of the world

>Put The Hate on Hold

>The death of the "Christians" and the refugees who "killed" them


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Give me any reason to believe in this cult called Christianity. This isn't a troll. I'm desperate for answers.

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Adultery Questions

Biblically speaking, does the victim in an adulterous marriage have an obligation to divorce, an option to divorce, or an obligation not to?

If a spouse demonstrates intent to commit adultery but it doesn't happen, is that the same as committing the act? Suppose a wife signs up for a dating app and the husband finds out. Should or can he leave her?

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Hello. My girlfriend is a Turkish so her family is traditionally Muslim. I love her and I want to marry her and we've discussed the possibility of marriage before but she told me her family wouldn't approve unless I converted to Islam. I have spoke to her about Christ but she doesn't want to give up her family values even though she isn't a strict practitioner she still practices some of the traditions. If she didn't convert I'd be ok with that but we can't marry unless I convert. What should I do? Ending this is not an option as I love her deeply and couldn't live without her. I admit that we have had sex but we've both agreed that sex should be kept inside of marriage so we haven't been having sex lately.

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Hi i found this Youtube channel gematria the channel decode The Book Bible and everything

There is a sign for Son of Man ! sign in the Moon and Sun! for more info please watch the videos to understand link:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9nCcte5LaY

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svWuXBPB5Vw

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Q7VcrC_bU

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Reformed Christianity General

Haven't seen one of these yet, thought I'd make one. Let us discuss Reformed Christianity, the Reformed leaders (Zwingli, Calvin, Knox, etc.), various Reformed confessions (Helvetic Confessions, Westminster, etc.), and of course our central text the Holy Bible which contains the word of God and which we look to alone for doctrine.

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Checkmate wh*toid

Israelites were black Africans, acts 13 says so. The white devil people have always oppressed us by keeping us captive in Egypt when we built the pyramids, and under the Roman empire when we (the first Christians) brought forth the Messiah.

Simeon called niger. Niger is Latin for black, anglicised as "nigger".

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So what's the big controversial thing about the "Reprobate" doctrine?

How does one know if they're a reprobate?

Romans 1 seems to be the main book that discusses the doctrine at length.

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Is Mormonism Christian?

Are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, otherwise knowm as Mormons, Christians? Why or why not? Should they get a flag on here?

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Is it possible for a Catholic to be real Christian?

Can some of them be considered Christians who are just trapped in a counterfeit deception and ignorant of their mistake, or should we to be safe assume all of them are agents of deception and confusion until proven innocent?

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post him

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Pray for the conversion of Protestants

It's rather sad that Protties think they have a legitimate status as a Church in God's eyes. But they don't. They are heretics like any other. We need to convert them. Pray for their conversion brothers, their souls face eternal damnation!

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Is faith a choice?

I was thinking about this recently. I didn’t really choose to believe, Christ just seemed true to me. Is believing vs not believing something really a choice? I read stories online a lot that just give me a knee jerk “this is bs” reaction. If that happens to you when you hear about Christ, is that really a choice? But then, how can a just God use faith for our salvation? Do we really have control over that?

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Songs that made you cry

Blest be the Lamb, my dearest Lord,

Who bought me with his blood,

And quenched his Father's flaming sword

In his own vital flood:

The Lamb that freed my captive soul

From Satan's heavy chains,

And sent the lion down to howl

Where hell and horror reigns.


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Christian literature

What are you currently reading and is it any good?

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Matthew 25

I just stumbled upon a deeply disturbing passage which I cannot come to terms with as it appears to have been preserved. I am not satisfied with the slightest with the shallow and hypocritical excuses I have so far heard for it's justification. I hope to God that it's merely a mistranslation inserted by jews, because I cannot accept as my lord one who would ever advocate for usury under any conditions. If I should be dammed to hell for rejecting usury, then I will proudly accept my fate with a clean conscience.

According to Matthew 25:27, Christ himself allegedly said:

>Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

I understand the parable just fine- 'contribute what you can'. That's not the part that troubles me. What troubles me is that I'm expected to believe that Christ himself supposedly justified usury. I can't accept this. It's exactly the same as asking me to believe Christ would say "beg, borrow, steal, cheat, lie; do whatever it takes to make a profit for your master". I have faith that Christ is better then this.

So someone, please help me understand just what the unholy f— happened to this passage. I cannot and will not accept this as it has been preserved. Someone please show me that this was a translation error or another jewish attempt at subversion.

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Pastor Martin Ssempa General /PMSG/

Is Pastor Martin Ssempa /ourguy/? His video clips seem to be good enough to BTFO any pro-homo thread




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Western Orthodoxy?

What are your thoughts on Western Orthodoxy? I specifically mean either those churches in the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox communions who practice the western rite or those churches who do not belong to either of those communions but continue the Orthodox faith like the Communion of the Western Orthodox Churches or the British Orthodox Church which do have ties with one of the eastern Churches but who do not formally exist within either communion.

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this board is not christian enough

Is this the same board on 8chan ? or they change new BO ?

I feel like it's not the same. it's seem it's lack of discipline. you let users make fun of Jesus teaching . no more study on bibles

heretic post was allow.

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Roman Catholics are the real Jew apologists

>From the Christian confession that there can be only one path to salvation, however, it does not in any way follow that the Jews are excluded from God’s salvation because they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah of Israel and the Son of God.

>That the Jews are participants in God’s salvation is theologically unquestionable, but how that can be possible without confessing Christ explicitly, is and remains an unfathomable divine mystery.


Non sede papists, try and defend this.

Protip: you can't

<John 14:6 NASB — Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

>My doctrine is explicitly contradictory, it's just a mystery! Lol

Sounds familiar…

>Extra ecclesiam nulla salus vs. baptism of desire

>Inherited guilt from Adam vs. salvation for murdered infants

>The church is the queen in Revelation vs. (simultaneously) Mary is the queen in Revelation

>Christ as the mediator vs. Mary as mediatrix

Et cetera

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This board believers in the Trinity.

Been seeing some non-trinitarians here recently. Just a friendly reminder that you are not welcome here as Christians. Good day.

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Christian imageboards

I love this place but I wonder if we are hindered by association with 8chan as a whole. We have traffic because we're connected, but would it be worth starting an entirely new imageboard just for a Christian board? Or move to a worksafe only site (if there is one)?

What are the pros and cons?

What witty name would you call it?




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Some questions

My main problems with Christianity is the view that Jesus == God and the trinity.

I want to get out of secularism asap as it's a sinking ship.

Could you guys clear away my doubt about these two things?

Also, please do it without ONLY quoting scripting.

The authority of God comes from the fact that his word is true, not because it's written in some book by people.

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Buddhism and Christianity?

What are your thoughts on this faith? It came into existence in India/Nepal about 500 years before Christ based on the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha).

As I understand it, Buddhism teaches that a fundamental part of reality is change (impermanence). But people become attached to things because of our ego, our sense of self or our personality, and we make our attachments a part of who we are. Because of change, we are bound to experience loss and if we don't learn how to overcome it then we will experience suffering. Thus attachment is the root of all suffering in Buddhism. By following the eightfold path, we learn that our egos are an illusion, and we can finally begin to let go, and upon letting go of our attachments there is complete freedom as there is no longer any worry or desire because we are slaves to nothing anymore, we are Buddhas. Of course for most people it takes many lifetimes for our karma to be perfected as we are trapped in a cycle of death and birth (samsara), so we continue to move to higher or lower levels of consciousness (rebirth) until there is full enlightenment and Nirvana where we fully become one with reality (or you could become a Bodhisattva and delay Nirvana in order to help lower level beings achieve Buddhahood). That is my understanding of the religion.

Is there anything valuable we as Christians can take from this? Obviously it cannot be fully reconciled with the Christian faith but I can't help but to notice a lot of similarities with Christian spirituality.

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The witness of creation is here. Everyone will soon know his name. LINK: https://endgametimes.wordpress.com/

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New Year's Thread

God bless you all in the coming days to do His will!

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Gaining real faith

I’ve realized some things over the past few months. I finally realized that ultimately the Truth really is unknowable and I’ll have to take a leap of faith to actually get somewhere. I’ve exhausted all my outlets of gaining possible wisdom from Occultism to Philosophy and now I’m just left with two possible options: pure Agnostic uncertainty about everything or Christianity. I feel to actually pursue Christianity though I need to have some sort of breakthrough to actually achieve faith in God.

I was praying to God on a more or less continual basis and I was still left wondering, even with signs I thought could be from God I was still uncertain about everything. I was still the same person, the same person enslaved to his own mental fancies and desires of the flesh, still the person unmotivated to actually commit myself to anything, the person still left without real passion, and I continue to be so.

So do I just continue to pray until I feel the power of the Holy Ghost actually work within me or do I just choose another course of action?

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Jews are a disease on white society and should not be tolerated. This board is unequivocally anti Zionist.

Amen if you agree.

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/clg/ - Christian Lifestyle General

<Stop masturbating

<Stop lusting

<Stop being slothful

Read the Bible

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Text Criticism

What are your thoughts on the current state of text criticism? Would you say there is a problem of ultimate authority involved in the discipline? If we are relying on enlightenment philosophy to give us God's very words then doesn't that place the text critic as another kind of magisterial authority? Is this acceptable?

Also post educational content on text criticism.

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Much of r/ christian literally supports satanism

What the heck


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Smoking and Coffee

I am very blessed in many ways. However, I had a tough relationship with a women. I was homeless for several years. I have no friends. My family is ok to me. However, they don't really like me.

Anyway… I smoke and drink coffee to ease the pain, and because I can't stop.

I'm terrified of God's Judgement.

Don't you think it's important for me to stop these activities to get to heaven, Brothers?

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Feeling futile

Every morning I wake up and just go through the motions of my life. I can't shake the feeling of complete meaningless. I fell into a dark night and never came out of it. Prayer does nothing for me anymore, nor does studying scripture. I feel like nothing I do matters, there is no point to my existence. All I ever see is constant change, everyone and everything changing, including myself, and it makes me feel extreme depression at times. I just cannot feel God anymore, all I feel like is a drop in a meaningless universe… :(

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Jesus’s Birthday Is Coming Soon

So how do I send Him something like a Nintendo Switch?

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Facts about the Blessed Virgin Mary, Ever-Virgin

The Blessed Virgin Mary was immaculately conceived.

The Virgin Mary, Mother of God, was conceived without original sin.

The Virgin Mary had no original sin in her Heart.

The Blessed Virgin Mary was born without any sin.

The Blessed Mother never experienced sin, venial, mortal, original.

The Blessed Virgin was assumed into Heaven.

The Blessed Virgin was crowed Queen of all creation.

The Blessed Virgin is the only human person to have been completely sinless.

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Reformation's impact on music

Is this true?

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Subject in the comment field.

Do you have to go to Church today if you already went during the night between 24th and 25th? Question coming from a Catholic.

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Christian Incels

God made me both extremely ugly and profoundly stupid. Because of this, I'm an incel. But I'm not bitter about it. I'm actually quite content with it and I have nothing against women. I'm sexually attracted to women but, assuming there is anyone out there who might find me attractive, I don't even think I would want to be romantically involved because I can't really relate to anyone or express my emotions and the idea of physical closeness makes me cringe. Also I know I would never be able to fulfill all of my hypothetical partner's needs or live up to their standards. There is truly nobody for me. I think this is a gift though. Celibacy is a noble path that God laid out for many. Our Lord himself was a virgin because he came to save us, not reproduce with us. St. Paul was also an asexual for the Kingdom of God. I think God making me ugly and stupid and repulsed by emotions is a gift and I think being an incel is a gift. It allows me to focus on God more instead of a romantic partner. If you're an incel, embrace it. God has gifted you! Perhaps one day, if I feel I am being called to it, I'll become a monk. But I don't know yet. I don't know where God is leading me.

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Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - DO necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun anon.

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What are you guys going to be doing for Christmas 2019? :)

(Also I really hope Jesus comes back and defeats the homosexuals in the new decade)

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Self TRT

Considering that the nature of men is to have a certain level of testosterone, and that this level has been plummeting down for years due to various reasons, we now see lots of men that could be considered lesser men. Part of it is their fault, part of it is the corruption of their body by external factors.

How christian is self TRT then, since it doesn't alter the nature of man, but instead fights against the very same factors that do?

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>at our church, we preach from the BIBLE and sing from the HYMNAL amen

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Conversion to Orthodox

i have been irreligious for the last ten years. I was raised a Pentecostal Christian and baptized as a Moravian Christian.

I committed a grave sin lately, the guilt and shame is killing me. There is a Greek Orthodox Church near me and I am thinking about going. Has anyone here converted to Orthodox rather than have been born into and can give me some advice?

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We need a separate board just for trad catholic IMO

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Christian /mu/ thread

Thought I’d make a thread on Christian music.

Anyone hear this album? It’s cover makes it look like generic wal-mart Christian country, but it’s actually a beautiful story told through amazing shoegaze. Definitely worth a listen

Lift to Experience - The Texas Jerusalem Crossroads

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Rules and Guidelines

I noticed /christian/ had a lot of censorship so I'm starting a new board. I promise not to delete anything simply because I disagree.


1. Christians who follow the Nicene Creed are all welcome
2. Non-believers who are interested in Christianity are welcome
3. Try to be civil
4. Trolls may be welcome, but spam is not

1. Nothing illegal
2. No censorship unless the moderator leaves a post as to what was deleted.

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. -John 8:32
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On holidays

Would of been best back then if the Catholic Church were to secularize the Pagan holidays and give them a different day away from the Christian holidays?

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Board for True Christians: "Christianity" or "Christian"

Why are there 2 different boards? Which one is legit? Which one is larping? Which one should I belong to?

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How would you prepare for your own death?

Without giving too much detail, there's a low chance I will make it to May 2020. I don't know what to do.

My physical affairs are in order already, I don't have kids, I'm going to leave what I have to my parents

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Unique Problem

I've been really embarrassed to explain my situation for a long time but here it goes. So I have lapsed from the faith. I'm not going to make any excuses for myself because I still believe I just haven't been practicing. It was 5 years ago when I decided to convert to Catholicism after having been an Independent Baptist for a while. But here's the thing… I think the priest screwed up my conversion. On the day I was supposed to be received into the Church, take communion and all that, well the priest invited me up for communion and I took it but he never initiated the rite of reception. The priest just gave me communion and said I was Catholic now. (I wasn't confirmed immediately then, I was put into a confirmation class and the priest told me after a certain period of time I'd be confirmed but I ended up lapsing during this time and was never confirmed). So I want to go back to the faith now but… I don't even know if I was really Catholic in the first place. For the first year after my "reception" I actually wasn't even aware of it and continued to attend Mass and receive communion and go to confession. But I eventually found out about how I should have been received formally into the Catholic Church… So was I never really Catholic after all? I want to come back to the faith but I'm embarrassed to explain my situation to a priest and I just want some feedback from you guys. Thank you and may God bless you.

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Welcome Back

It's been a while.

This is the first thread on 8kun /christianity/

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New Testament in the Original Koine Greek

Recently i've stumbled upon this individual's website


And saw that he has many interesting and free things and tools like koine greek Gospels translated verse by verse side by side for example.

In fact i was looking for reading the original NT texts in their exat originals when i stumbled upon the website

But i'm interested, on a scale from 0 to 10 just how exactly reliable is he as a scholar and how much truth is there in his research of Scripture?

Also, is there such a thing as the complete readable Bible all written in original koine?

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Infinity Cup 2020

Hey friends.

I'm writing this here just cause christchannel seems to be down, have you guys been enjoying the cup so far? If you don't know about it yet, we're going to stream finals on Friday, your team is making it to the top!


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Is there a Christian board minus protestants and other heretics?

Please direct me if so. Orthodox and Catholic communities is where I would like to be since I believe I can learn the most from them.

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Thoughts on Islam

Are Muslims our Friends? Should we treat them the same way we would like to be treated? Do we worship the same God? What are your thoughts on our Muslim brothers and sisters?

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meme pastor

What's your opinion on Steve Anderson?

Is he a dangerous heretic?

Is he a much needed antidote to the weakening of the Christian stance against sin?


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What's this boards opinion on the SSPX?

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What is Buddhism? Explain it. What is its relationship to Christianity? Was the Buddha onto anything?

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Protestants under attack from Catholics in Mexico

ROME - Recently - and, many observers would say, belatedly - the Catholic Church has awoken to the reality of anti-Christian persecution around the world. The emblematic case is the Nineveh Plains in northern Iraq, where Catholic organizations such as the Knights of Columbus and Aid to the Church in Need have meant the difference between life and death for a resilient Christian minority struggling to rebuild post-ISIS.

Pope Francis routinely talks about anti-Christian persecution as a fact of life in the early 21st century, invoking an “ecumenism of blood” to express the reality that oppressors don’t generally make distinctions among the types of Christianity practiced by their victims.

This activism is warranted by the threats faced by tens of millions of Christians around the world - to invoke the language of the Catholic Mass, it is “right and just.” For a Catholic witness to be effective, however, it must be consistent and apply across the board, lest it seem mere confessional self-interest.

And that, by a short route, brings us to the small town of Cuamontax Huazalingo, Mexico, population around 700 souls, located in Hidalgo State in the central part of the country just north of Mexico City.

Last Sunday, four Protestants were kicked out of town by village leaders in Cuamontax Huazalingo, apparently in retaliation for their refusal to sign an agreement barring Protestants from entering the community and also for a press conference held by their lawyer accusing the Mexican government of failing to defend religious freedom.

A home belonging to Gilberto Badillo, his adult son Uriel Badillo and their wives, all Missionary Baptists, was attacked on Sunday while they were away, with all their belongings carted off and the windows smashed in order to make the home uninhabitable. In consequence, the Badillos left town and sought refuge in a nearby city.

According to religious freedom watchdog groups, there was ample warning the family was in danger but local and regional government officials refused to intervene, instead giving interviews to media blaming the family for their refusal to participate in, and give financial support to, Catholic activities.

Christian Solidarity Worldwide reports that beginning in 2018, community leaders cut the electricity, running water and sewage services to the handful of Protestant inhabitants, demanding that they sign an agreement to financially support all village activities, including Catholic festivals, and also pledging that no Protestant missionaries would enter.

(cont) https://cruxnow.com/news-analysis/2019/08/02/rural-mexico-a-gut-check-for-catholic-church-on-religious-freedom/

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Catholic Order Jokes

I recently came across a video after doing some research into the Orthodox church in which a friar was telling jokes about Jesuits and the like and I literally did not understand a single one of the jokes.

Could anyone who knows more about these orders explain the historical/doctrinal reasons for these jokes to someone who isn't well versed the Church?

Here's a list but im going to post a specific joke in the thread: https://www.ignatianspirituality.com/dotmagis-blog/more-jesuit-jokes/

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Prayer Requests

Please pray for my family and for me. I am on my way to deliver my first funeral service for my late grandma.

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Is it a sin to pray that Terry Bogard becomes a playable characer in Smash?

I'm being completely serious here. I really want him to get in Smash, but I'm afraid it may be offensive to God to pray for such a frivolous thing.

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/christian/ banned me for talking about Fr Amorth

i dont know why. anyways, what do you think about exorcists and exorcisms? this book is a very interesting read.

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Where is he?

It's been 2000 years. Where is he? Many of the early Christians thought he would come back in their lifetimes, or shortly after. But he didn't. 2000 years later there hasn't been a sound. Where is he? Why couldn't the Almighty One do it all at once? Why does there have to be two comings? Sounds like a cop out belief system. Seems like because he didn't fulfill all the prophecies of the holy Tankah, an idea of a second coming was made up by you guys to solve this problem.

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I am the Christ

Revelation 19:16 describes my thigh tattoo (it says Jesus)

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Back in Business

What have you bois been up to since "the hiatus"?

I hope you kept in regular church attendance, and private devotion!

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penal substitution, ransom, moral influence

Which view of christ's death on the cross is the correct one?

Penal Substitution/Satisfaction

Did Jesus die to pay the debt for mankind's sins to God on behalf of all sinners


Did Jesus die to free mankind from the hold of the evil one and give himself up as ransom to the devil for our sins

moral influence (the SJW theory)

Did Jesus die to positively influence mankind and change mankind's view of God from harsh to loving

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El Paso Shooting


There was a shooting in El Paso, as a copycat to the Christchurch shooting.

MSNBC named 8chan on air. >>>/pol/13563262

I just want to talk about the Bible here bros ;_;

Is this place gonna get SHUT IT DOWN 'd?

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Bunker Board

In the event that 8chan is taken down for good, I've established a backup board at endchan.xyz/christianity where we can still gather.

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Visiting other churches/denominations

Is it a sin to visit other churches/denominations that conflict with your church/denomination's doctrine for the purposes of:


-Politely accepting a friend/family member's invitation?

-Attending a friend/family member's wedding/ their child's first communion, etc.?

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Recruiting Volunteers

We are in need of volunteers.

A volunteer's role is to review reports and justly enforce the rules, which mostly entails deleting inappropriate images and spam/flood posts.

If you would like to become a volunteer, please post a reply in this thread. Use an older connection of yours so your ID can prove you've posted here for long enough.

After that, send me an email at turner17@pm.me with your post number, desired username, and a password. I will let you know if you are chosen.

I expect to enroll three volunteers. Selections should be finished after a few weeks.


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Thoughts and Prayers

As Christians we can help by sending our thoughts and prayers to the victims of this shooting.

Please help now by posting your thoughts and prayers in this thread

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How do we stop Rabbi Bergoglio from mocking Our Lord?

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Virgin Wife

It's important to find one

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Was Jesus bi-sexual?

It says he loved all people and he had a haram of men who followed him around and they all slept together in inns. He followed the old testament rules which means he could not lay with a man as you lay with a woman but there's a lot of kinky stuff two guys can do that don't fall into that category.

it never says he was not bi ANYWHERE in the bible

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Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate excommunicates Francis

Francis Bergoglio, a Jesuit, has been admonished, warned several times to distance himself from heresies. However, he obstinately rejects any repentance. He continues to cause extreme offense not only to the believers of the Roman Catholic Church but also to all Christians and unbelievers. By abusing the supreme church authority through heresies, he intensely promotes the self-destruction of the Church, in matters of both faith and morals.

It concerns the following heresies: Francis Bergoglio

1) denied the universally valid moral norms in the exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

2) did not distance himself from heresies of syncretism with paganism which place the redemptive death of Christ on the same level as the sacrifice to pagan gods, de facto demons. He thus destroys true mission.

3) promotes a so-called dynamic approach to the deposit of faith, whereby he makes heresies equal with the apostles’ doctrine.

4) neither identified nor condemned Vatican II heresies promoting syncretism with paganism and declaring Allah to be the same God as Yahweh (LG 16, Nostra Aetate declaration).

5) participates in crimes against humanity of the New World Order (NWO).

6) works towards dechristianization of Europe by intensively promoting Islamization.

7) is silent on the stealing of children by the juvenile justice system.

8. approves and promotes homosexualism and other gender deviations, which is contrary to the teaching of the Scriptures and Tradition.

For these heresies, Francis Bergoglio excluded himself from the Catholic Church. Therefore, the Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate, by authority of the apostolic and prophetic office, in the name of the Triune God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, declares Francis Bergoglio to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Unless the person concerned shows repentance at least in the hour of death, he will be eternally condemned.

Every Catholic who is in unity with him in heresy is likewise excommunicated from the Catholic Church.

Therefore, let the priests and bishops no longer mention the name of this excommunicated apostate Francis in the Divine Liturgy.


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hello i am interested in possibly becoming a christian but i want to ask how do christians justify opposing racemixing, don't most christians think the bible accepts racemixing? i see and feel the good aspects of christianity to an extent but this concern is holding me back, it seems like maybe only a tiny fraction of white christians care about racial preservation and most feel that the idea of racial preservation through force is a sin

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/Christian/ hypocritsy

Every day they ban in the name of the lord.
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Mary, Mother of Jesus

Mary is the mother of Jesus.

Jesus is God incarnate, He is fully God and fully man.

If Jesus is God, then Mary is theotokos, mother of God.

If Jesus is man, then Mary is anthropotokos, mother of a man.

If Jesus is Christ, then Mary is christokos, mother of Christ.

Each of these statements is true and the use of any one does not necessarily mean rejection of one of the others.

They are all extrabiblical terms, meaning that they aren't found in scripture. They were all conceived of by theologians after Christ ascended.

The least ambiguous way to refer to her is "Mary, mother of Jesus".

Thanks for reading.

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I know I'll have to give everything up but I am really considering becoming Amish. Do you think this is a good idea?

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Suppose a total newcomer wants to become a Christian and attend church. Why is your church correct? What do you tell him, in short?

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The freedom could not last

yes, the homofag in the mods has finally flowered with its many hues. that’s right, it’s the infamous world filter “feature” which isna form of automatic arrogant abuse, ah, what kindness, what spiritfulness, what a blessing to degrade with such anoinched high nose! fûck the mods.

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New documentary by Verity Baptist Church

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WEBM Thread

comfy church feels edition

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Protty Church Music

>protty church music

Why is protty church music such crap? Is this a sign of the failure of modern protestant congregations.

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A Protestant Tours a Catholic Cathedral

Ten Minute Bible Hour on youtube just released a new video in his series where he visits a church of a different denomination and speaks with the pastor there. This time he's at a Roman Catholic cathedral in Salt Lake City.

He's a mainstream evangelical, probably baptist. He has youtuber personality. He's probably going to politely treat everything as very impressive and not push back on any theological claims of the priest there.

Let's watch it, friends.

>Previous episodes

>Greek orthodox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTA8jbsm_XI

>High church, continuing Anglicanism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-K84JAysfI&t=1400s

>Mainstream Episcopalian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXD_64KBsn8

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Street Preacher vs Demon

Street preacher attacked by demon infested liberal. God sends off-duty cop to the rescue. Demon approaches at 4:30.

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Just a reminder…

The Roman church isn't catholic.

The eastern church isn't orthodox.

The one, holy, Catholic and apostolic church is the church invisible, which is comprised of Christians everywhere in the world who profess the gospel message famously an eloquently declared in the reformation as Sola Fide. This is the gospel according to Luther, Augustine, Paul, and Abraham. Today orthodox Christianity is culturally known in the west as "evangelical protestantism".

<Galatians 1:8 NASB — But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!

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Hong Xiquan/Taiping Heavenly Kingdom

Thoughts on the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom and Hong Xiquan?


>Hong Xiuquan (洪秀全), born "Hong Huoxiu", was the third and youngest son of a poor[how?] Hakka family.[2][3] Some sources claim his family was "well to do".[4] He was born in Fuyuan Springs, Hua county (now part of Huadu District, Guangzhou), Guangdong to Hong Jingyang, a farmer and elected headman, and Madam Wang.[5][6][7] He and his family moved to Guanlubu Village shortly after his birth.[8] Upon marrying his wife Lai Xiying, Hong received the courtesy name "Renkun."[9]

>Hong showed an interest in scholarship at an early age, so his family made financial sacrifices to provide a formal education for him, in the hope that he could one day complete all of the civil service examinations.[2] Hong began studying at a primary school in his village at the age of five.[10] He was able to recite the Four Books after five or six years. He then took the local xiucai preliminary civil service examinations and placed first.[11] A few years later, he traveled to the nearby city of Guangzhou to take the imperial examinations.[12] He was unsuccessful and, his parents being unable to afford to continue his education, he was forced to return to agricultural work.[13] The next year, he accompanied a wealthy schoolmate elsewhere for a year of study and became a village schoolteacher upon his return.[14]

>In 1836, at the age of 22, Hong returned to Guangzhou to retake the imperial examinations.[15] While in Guangzhou, Hong heard Edwin Stevens, a foreign missionary, and his interpreter preaching about Christianity.[16] From them, Hong received a set of pamphlets entitled "Good Words for Exhorting the Age", which were written by Liang Fa, Stevens's assistant, and contained excerpts from the Bible along with homilies and other material prepared by Liang.[17] Supposedly, Hong only briefly looked over these pamphlets and did not pay much attention to them at the time.[2] Unsurprisingly, he again failed the imperial examinations, which had a pass rate of less than one percent.[18]

>In 1837, Hong attempted and failed the imperial examinations for a third time, leading to a nervous breakdown.[19] He was delirious for days and his family feared for his life.[20] While convalescing, Hong dreamt that he visited Heaven and discovered that he possessed a celestial family distinct from his earthly family, which included a heavenly father, mother, elder brother, sister-in-law, wife, and son.[21] His heavenly father, wearing a black dragon robe and high-brimmed hat with a long golden beard, lamented that men were worshiping demons rather than him and presented Hong with a sword and golden seal with which to slay the demons infesting Heaven.[22] Hong dreamt that he did so with the help of his celestial older-brother and a heavenly army.[23] The father figure later informed Hong that his given name violated taboos and must be changed, suggesting as one option the "Hong Xiuquan" moniker ultimately adopted by Hong.[24] In later embellishments, Hong would declare that he also saw Confucius being punished by Hong's celestial father for leading the people astray.[25] His acquaintances would later claim that after awakening from his dreams Hong became more careful, friendly, and open, while his pace became imposing and firm and his height and size increased.[26] Hong stopped studying for the imperial examinations and sought work as a teacher. For the next several years Hong taught at several schools around the area of his hometown.

>In 1843, Hong failed the imperial examinations for the fourth and final time.[27] It was only then, prompted by a visit by his cousin, that Hong took time to carefully examine the Christian pamphlets he had received.[28] After reading these pamphlets, Hong came to believe that they had given him the key to interpreting his visions: his celestial father was God the Father (whom he identified with Shangdi from Chinese tradition), the elder brother that he had seen was Jesus Christ, and he had been directed to rid the world of demon worship.[29][30] This interpretation led him to conclude that he was the literal son of God and younger brother to Jesus.[31] In contrast to some of the later leaders of his movement, Hong appears to have genuinely believed in his ascent to Heaven and divine mission.[32] After coming to this conclusion Hong began destroying idols and enthusiastically preaching his interpretation of Christianity.[2] As a symbolic gesture to purge China of Confucianism, he and the cousin asked for two giant swords, three chi (about 1 metre) long and nine jin (about 4.5 kg), called the "demon-slaying swords" (斬妖劍), to be forged.[33]

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Okay, this is epic.

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God Does Not Love Us

>God creates everything

>God knows everything

>God loves us

The three of those statements cannot exist at the same time. The issue here is that if God knows everything and creates everyone, he already knows which of his creations will go to heaven or to hell before he even creates them (predestination). Now if God creates a person who he already knows will spend an eternity in hell, he obviously does not love that person. Yet he mass produces people who are literally born to die and go to hell. Why would a loving God do this? There are two options. Either God does not love us or he does not know everything. The only way an all powerful God can justify the creation of hellbound people is if he himself does not know what choices that person will make in their lifetime that lead them towards heaven or hell. If that is true however he is no longer all powerful.

So. Is God all powerful, or does he love us? Or can anyone here begin to rationalize an argument that he can accomplish both? Prove me wrong.

(I embrace the coming shitstorm and shouts of heresy among anyone here who is not a calvinist or diehard catholic)

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Frankie gives away relics of St. Peter


Ecumenist globalist lapdog Bergoglio is at it again. The best that can be said is that he didn't kiss any feet this time or any Korans

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Religious women are whores, why?

inb4 someone denies the following:

>while restricting themselves to those converted (or lured through missionary dating) to christianity or feminism or whatever religion they may have, women, who by being picky set the terms of coupling in modern society are in command of sex/marriage, select assortively, on but beauty, money, charisma.

if you deny it, fuck off, ignorant trash. the science is in, be a nigger in another thread.

if a deity has any power, why no power over cunts? they care not one bit about their religion, when it comes to their truest moment, the only important one universal.

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Old testament

Whats the most esoteric passages of the old testament ? Besides Jacob getting hip tossed by a angel

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World without Reformation

What would the world look like without the protestant reformation?

Here's what it would be like:

>No 30 years war. millions of lives saved

>no upheaval, europe better able to fight off ottomans and Balkans never fall to Muslim control

>Crusades continue, Christendom takes back Constantinople and most of the Near East. Deus Vult!

>The Roman church was itself aware of many of the faults called out by the reformers and would have probably taken action even if the “protestants” had not taken such a vocal stand against them.

>With Islam defeated, a united Christian Europe goes on to convert the world to Christianity

>Catholic America never legalizes slavery, as a result America is sill a white country

>Prussia never arises, as a result there is no German empire and World War I and World War II never occurs

>Without WWI there is no Russian revolution and communion never arises.

>Modernism, postmodernism never arise, there is no sexual revolution and the breakdown of the family never occurs

>A more peaceful, happier world emerges in the 20th century

Deus Vult!!!

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Josh Harris kisses Jesus goodbye

surprising no one but myopic boomer church thots, josh harris is satanist. and a fag promoter, possibly a faggot himself.

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permabanned from christian

unjunstly permabanned now. what is wrong with that moderation

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Blessed V

>this triggers the Prot

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The purpose of this board is to discuss Christian topics

It was started because of dissatisfaction with censorship by mods on /christian/, and that's still an issue almost 4 years later


We had a first raid today, (probably just one cross /b/ & /christian/ poster), that challenges the rule of "no censorship". Obviously spam and pornography are counter to the board purpose, but does banning and deleting provide an avenue for bias in moderation? I've concluded that it could, and in the interest of total transparency the mod practices will be as follows:

>all bans have been lifted

>anti-spam settings have been enabled (captcha to start thread, new thread limit/hour, robot9000 script)

>lewd and pornographic images will be deleted, but the post will remain

>spam threads will be locked, but not deleted so anyone can judge for themselves whether or not the post really was spam

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Send them back.

Been seeing some Roman Catholics on here lately. They shouldn't be welcome on here.

Go fuck right back off to /christian/ please. Nobody wants your papism running rampant on here shitting up this whole board like how you shit up the last.

We know what Romanism does. Its like a plague. It comes in quietly at first but then it destroys everything.

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Which denomination?

Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant. What do I begome? I am planning on getting baptized since I have never gotten baptized before. What church do I choose?

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Martin Luther

>Murderer who escaped justice by becoming a priest

>Admitted that Satan was his chief theologian

>Encouraged protties to loot the wealth of monasteries which was used to help the poor, leading to a massive underclass

>Drunkard, adulterer, and womanizer

>Added and removed parts of the bible to support his own agenda

>Was funded by greedy German princes

>Encouraged divorce

<And to top it all off his original revolution lead to the ideas that brought the French revolution, the communist revolution, and various other modernist revolutions leading us to the predicament we find ourselves in today.

How can anyone support this faggot and call themselves a "Christian"?

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the problem of rampant unbelief in Christianity

Do you ever get the feeling that most Christians don't really believe in God and the bible. That they're just in it for the good community and morals? I'm not just talking about obvious cases like those churches we see with the rainbow flags - instead it seems to be that many churches, both liberal and conservative, are filled with congregation and even pastoral staff that don't actually believe in God.

Theology that would be no different without God

I'm not basing this on the way anyone acts, I understand that all fall short. It's more the theology - a lot of the pop theology going around at churches actually seems to present a view that nullifies God.

For example:

The popular saying:

>God answers prays yes, no or wait

How is that different from if you were praying and there was no God. If God didn't exit, you would still get what you prayed for sometimes, not get it other time, and have to wait other times. This belief is no different from the way the world would be if God doesn't exist.

In a world where God exists, if a prayer isn't answered, it should mean that something went wrong and prayers should be answered yes more often than not. - unanswered prayers should be an aberration that causes concern.

Another was from my cousin who is a junior Charismatic pastor he said something along the lines of:

>prayer doesn't change things; it changes me

And I just thought, that seems no different from how prayer would work in a world that God doesn't exist.

It's almost like they don't really think God exists or cares, but want to believe he does, so they go about creating a theology that would be equally true whether God exists or not.

In fact a lot of Christian-isms that are spread around the church read more like self help stuff and inspirational quotes that aren't much different in their philosophy and meaning from motivational quotes that unbelievers say to one another - they're just changed slightly to put them in a Christian setting.

Misinterpretation of faith as juxtaposition to atheism

The big disruption for me came with the modern churches emphasis on faith - which it seems to interpret as believing in the existence of God. But I don't think that's how the bible intended the word faith - because it was written in a time when practically everyone believed in some form of deity. The bible seems to use faith more as described by Paul in Hebrew 11 - a faith that trusts God above ourselves and our reason, and relying on God instead on our own strength or ingenuity. To me it seems like every time faith is used in the bible - it is used in this context and not in the modern context which treats it as a juxtaposition to atheism rather than a trust in God.

In fact when the bible talks about atheism or lack of belief - it uses the term unbelief. The term "lack of faith" was used by Jesus against his disciples who clearly believed in God. It is used many time in the bible to describe people who clearly were not atheist and who clearly believed in God. It was used as a criticism for those who lacked trust in God and wanted to trust in their own powers and knowledge.

Dire Implications of Churches dominated by unbelievers

Do you ever get the feeling that most Christians don't believe in God. They've just been raised in or found the church community, grown fond of it and just settled their because the people and the philosophy give them hope and support? If so, what can be done about this, it seems like under such circumstances churches are doomed to be dominated by unbelievers

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Are we still supposed to kill all the jews?

Our ancestors were instructed to exterminate them when we moved into Canaan, and when they did not do so they were warned of the harm that would come to them as a result. And even in modern times we still see people like Hitler being too kind to jews, trying to deport them rather than simply killing them all, the same mistake our ancestors made. Are we still supposed to kill them, or is it too late for that? Is being stuck with jews our permanent punishment for not obeying God and destroying them when He told us to?

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Where does this "literal word of God" idea come from?

The bible repeatedly uses clear and obvious allegory and metaphor all over the place. The authors of the bible never suggest it is literal, or the word of God. How is a letter from Paul to some Christians the word of God? It is the word of Paul. How do literalists decide which parts must be literal and which are ok to interpret metaphorically?

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Liberal Churches make ready to provide sanctuary for invaders




<Churches across the US are fighting back against the Trump administration’s mandate to ramp up deportations with new sanctuary practices of their own, using private homes in their congregations as shelter and potentially creating a modern-day underground railroad to ferry undocumented immigrants from house to house or into Canada.

<Church leaders from California to Illinois and New York told BuzzFeed News they’re willing to take their sanctuary operations for undocumented immigrants underground should federal immigration authorities, emboldened by Trump’s recent directives to take a harder line on deportations, ignore precedent and raid their campuses.

Connected churches/groups:

-United Church of Christ

-Episcopal diocese of LA

-"LA Voice"

-Presbyterian Church USA

-"ISAIAH", a Minnesota group

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Guys I found a loophole. If you get 2 people together and pray to ask Jesus to forgive you for not believing in him you can be atheist and still get into heaven.

Find a flaw. Protip: you can't


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Nazi Catholics

Reminder the nazis were not exactly atheists who decided to kill all the jews for no reason, there had been 1000 years of catholic oppression of the jews first and the church courted the Nazi high leadership

who could go to the Catholic Church for advice about what is right and what is wrong after they have shown such bad judgement?

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Antediluvian world

Young earth creationists and biblical literalists

What was the antediluvian world like? Other than longer lifespans how was the world before the flood different from the world after the flood?

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Theories of the Atonement

You have to pick one. Which is it?

What does the Bible teach and why is it penal substitutionary atonement?

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astral projecting

is it satanic?

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Animal Sacrifice

Why did the omnipotent creator of the universe need middle eastern people to sacrifice goats and animals by cutting their throats and burning their bodies to obtain their blood for so long? Could there have been any other way to "pay for sin"? When I talk to people who are not Cristian they also don't see why god needed to impregnate a teenage middle eastern girl so her child could be butchered as a sacrifice to himself.

How can I explain this in a way that makes logical sense? Perhaps god had no choice in this matter and there is some law of the universe that forces him to need blood?

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Amazon just banned Dr. Joseph Nicolosi's books

The book burnings continue. If you're not familiar, Dr. Nicolosi was the leading void for scientifically-proven reparative therapy for LGBT individuals for several decades.

Amazon Just Banned My Dad’s Therapy Books, Caving to LGBT Activists

by Joseph Nicolosi Jr.

>On Amazon, you can buy almost any book written throughout human history—from the Bible to Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf,” or even a book glorifying pedophilia.

>As of last week, however, you cannot get any of Dr. Joseph Nicolosi Sr.’s books about leaving homosexuality—because Amazon just banned them all.

>From 1981 until his death in 2017, my father was the driving force behind reparative therapy. He invented, refined, and used this innovative counseling method to help thousands of men overcome the effects of sexual abuse and other deep-seated childhood traumas.

>These men told my father that his scientifically sound practices helped re-orient their sexuality away from obsessions with pornography, and helped them reduce their unwanted same-sex attractions.

>The books Amazon banned are the continuation of my father’s legacy and of the changes that can take place through his methods. The books have hundreds of endorsements, from typical readers to past presidents of the American Psychological Association.

>In one comment, which Amazon has now “banned,” a man said the book “Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality” saved his marriage.

>Luckily for that man, he was able to find marital help before Amazon became the PC police. Today, he and many other families will now find fewer online resources than ever—not because science dictates their removal, but because LGBT ideology has shouted down sound science.

>While Amazon is banning books—and restricting choice among those with unwanted same-sex attractions—some state governments are banning my father’s therapeutic practices.

>But it’s clear that no government official who is voting to restrict client choice actually knows what reparative therapy entails. And with Amazon banning his books, radical LGBT activists hope to prevent even more lawmakers from ever finding out the truth.

<Contrary to what these activists and their allies at Amazon claim, my father never advocated so-called conversion therapy.

>Conversion therapy is broad, ill-defined, has no ethics code, no governing body, and is typically practiced by unlicensed individuals. My father had nothing to do with these or any similar practices, and as a therapist myself, I wholeheartedly condemn such a concept.

>What my father did do was use his psychological training and his Judeo-Christian worldview to help men overcome traumas that they—and he—believed were leading them into a life that did not reflect the men they were truly designed by their creator to be.

>He counseled families who were struggling with accepting their children, and he always told them, “Love your child, whatever the outcome of therapy may be.”

>This week’s book ban by Amazon and radical LGBT activists reveals the blatant hypocrisy of today’s leaders of the LGBT movement: They celebrate exploration of every kind of sexuality they can imagine, unless that exploration happens to lead an individual toward a traditional, heterosexual lifestyle. That sort of exploration, of course, must be banned.

>My hope is that there will be a large enough outcry from consumers that Amazon will rethink its decision. If it doesn’t, my dad’s books won’t be the last to get blacklisted.

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I've accepted jesus into my heart

But I still feel so lonely and depressed

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RCC systematic theology is untrustworthy

If a system is contradictory, it is formally illogical and should be discarded. This is the case for systematic theology in the Roman church.

The Roman church simultaneously claims:

1 -Outside the Church there is no salvation


2 -Those who do not know the Gospel of Christ or his(sic) Church may too receive eternal salvation

>Catechism 846 & 847 http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_P29.HTM

Remember that "church" here means the RCC, and to be "inside" the church means participation in the sacraments of the RCC (or deemed permissible by the RCC, like baptism from other churches).

Here are the available options I see:

>EENS (#1) really means that membership in the RCC is normative, it's not an exclusive statement. The two can be reconciled this way.

-arguing against the church's historic reading of the doctrine of EENS from Council of Florence and Fourth Lateran Council (incompatible with viewing the RCC as a source of special revelation)

>Baptism of desire (#2) is a false doctrine (Feeneyism)

-Q: why then is it being taught by the Roman church?

–A1: the doctrine is being corrupted and misleading but the RCC is still valid (naive)

–A2: the papal seat is empty, but traditional Roman theology is still correct (sedevacantism)

>EENS (#1) is wrong, especially if taken to mean "the church" as the RCC

-justification by faith alone

If you are a mainstream roman catholic today, you're either not paying attention or you're a doublethink idiot. I mean that charitably, because it is very urgent that you reconcile your doctrine before God.

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Fruits of the reformation

Fruits of the reformation

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Protestantism and Essence Energy Distinction

What are Protestants' (any denomination, don't care really) views on the essence-energy distinction?

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Operation: Convert /christian/

Guys, we're doing pretty well here, free from the Papist mod mafia. We've grown significantly in the last few months, and now we're slowly but surely catching up to /christian/, with 1/2 to 1/3 of the traffic. Of course, /christian/ still has the large advantage of being the biggest Christian board, but because so many Protestants and Orthodox left the discussion there, it has become stale, cringey, and a Papist circlejerk - so not a very attractive board.

Our mission is very simple, don't partake in the discussion there, not even to bash Papists. Just, whenever you can, go there and link back to this board in as many threads as possible. For example:

"This board is heavily censored by the Papist mods, for a free discussion go to:





Remember to use sage so the mods don't notice that the threads are being bumped.

Only a free discussion is the path towards theological truth. Let's make /christianity/ the #1 Christian board on 8chan!

God bless you all!

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Censorship or bug?

What is going on over at /christian/?!


Is it a new mod or something? Was it always like this?!


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Is a Pope necessary?

How do Orthodox defend against Catholic charges that in order for there to be unity in faith there needs to be a central figurehead, like the Pope, to keep the Church united. Everytime I tried making a post or a thread, because I was genuinly curious as to what the Orthodox have to say (since I am considering conversion to Orthodoxy from Southern Baptist), all the Catholics would flood in and shit everything up and call the Orthodox phyletists and schismatics and that apparently something like the situation between Constantinople and Moscow over Ukraine is proof that there needs to be a Pope. So Orthodox, what is your defense against the RCs?

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Relationship thread

I sincerely apologize for the blogpost; I meant to post this in the relationship general on /christian/ but I was preemptively banned for nothing of course. My deepest apologies for starting a thread just for myself, let this be our relationship general then.

I am facing an existential problem; I used to be severely autistic and lame, unable to hold a conversation with anyone, totally fried with estrogen and insecurity and totally fucked up. as I grew older I remedied this greatly, through a series of events, relationships, and realisations that helped me come out of my shell. I've been doing fine since, but every now and again I find myself in such an awkward situation I begin to fear my whole life, if I may be hyperbolic. I find myself now, without immediate close friends, only people whom I have to act as someone else to, and never hang out with. My parents don't even believe I have any friends, which is such an existential insult to the male heir of their bloodline… a young man who is to become a man; with every skill and competency and piece of experience that comes with that. I am not a monk; I will need that growth. But this feels like maturation purgatory; what I mean is, this is intolerable.

I've also largely stagnated in this matter the past two years and I am seriously wondering if it is too late for me to grow into a likeable, good, not pathologically wrecked person carrying a ton of mental baggage around all the time. I, dare i say, know my purpose in life already, God have mercy on me, and it is absolutely essential I'm not for the matter. I've never felt dread like this, and I don't know whether to submit wholly and just be a physically vacant soul just adrift on God's will or try my hardest and just keep trying to grow, even with the mass of shame and indignity which constitutes my immediate and greater past.

I'm lying, I already know I'll devote my life to the latter, but it seems such a desperate and sad bid; for when I do devote my life to this thing that comes naturally to everyone, what else could I possibly devote it to, what else could I even do. I realise this is a very tiring and vague post, but has anyone had any similar experiences.

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As a man, I am completely disenfranchized in modern society. Is there a way to revive the traditional family values? I can't figure out a way for me to convince a woman this is the way to go, when I can't really believe it's possible myself anymore.

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What is the difference between judaism and christianity?

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What did he mean by this?

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New T

Honestly, I agree with Luther that Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation are not scripture. They shouldn't be included in the New Testament, or at the very least placed in a separate apocryphal section as the deuterocanonicals are. Say what you want but my conviction as a Lutheran is firm in this matter. Salvation is by faith alone. This is what Jesus says, this is what Paul says, this is what John says, this is what Peter says. The above writings are doctrinally erroneous and fail to preach the same Gospel of Jesus and Paul and John and Peter. They were disputed in the early Church and apostolic authorship for them hasn't even been thoroughly demonstrated.

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#1 Christian Board

Guys let's try our hardest to overtake /christian/ as the #1 Christian board on this site. Let's set some goals here.

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Against those heretics called "Iconoclasts"

For the heretics call upon the scriptures by vainly twisting its words and creating their own meanings, and they even cite the prophet Moses who said,

"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:"

(Deut 5:8)

But what did that holy prophet Daniel write?

"I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened." (Dan 7:9-10)

And who would admit that the Ancient of days is another than the Father himself? For both the Ancient of days and the Son of Man are spoken about here, God the Father and God the Son. Thus an icon of God is conjured up in our minds, and it was surely the intention of the prophet to do so, for why would he have described the Deity if he had not intended for an icon of him to become present in our minds? Even in the Old Testament there is a depiction.

(It must be noted that Icons may be generated in our minds by other means,

"He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler." (Pslm 91:4)

Indeed, the Psalms, and the Old Testament in its entirety, often speaks about God anthropomorphically. Yet it must be admitted here that the intentions of the psalmist and of the other authors are metaphorical rather than mystical in nature, like that of Daniel, and must only be considered a drop in the bucket of this defense, and this is known by their lack of true description. Now the Icons these generate in our mind are unintentional are have been spoken of so we might better identify with God as men or to stir up our love for God.)

Now what of the Son?

"And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength." (Rev 1:13-16)

John visions are a return to Daniels, and we know what he means by these things, for in his gospel he says,

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (Jhn 1:18) And, "Philip saith unto him, 'Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.' Jesus saith unto him, 'Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?'" (Jhn 14:8-9)

John testifies to us the true Gospel, the catholic Gospel that the man, that holy apostle, Paul himself, preached when he wrote, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" (Col 1:14)

Christ Jesus is the image of the Father, a perfect representation of him. Those heretics who break the icons and overthrow the images are deniers of the incarnation, having followed even the Iota but forgetting the spiritual nature of God, "for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life" (2 Cor 3:6)

We know that "God is a spirit" (Jhn 4:24), who is neither "like unto gold, or silver, or stone graven by art and man's device" (Act 17:29), and we mightily detest those heretics who say we worship the material of the icons. Rather we worship the figure represented by these. For we know that God gave representations of heavenly beings to Moses when he instructed him on building the ark of the holy covenant (Exod 25:18) So God himself came down, taking on the appearance of a man (Phil 2:8), and suffering on our behalf, revealing himself and his Father to the whole world through an image most especially in the suffering, death, and resurrection.


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Jesus just passed through Mary's uterine wall

>Catholics ACTUALLY believe this

from "Christian Theology", Millard Erickson

<1237. Until recently, Roman Catholic theologians adhered to the fourth-century threefold formula regarding Mary’s virginity: ante partum, in partu, et post partum (“before, in, and after the birth”). See Raymond E. Brown, The Birth of the Messiah (Garden City, NY: Doubleday, 1977), 517–18. The “brothers and sisters” of Jesus have been explained either as children of Joseph by an earlier marriage or as Jesus’s cousins. See J. Blizzer, Die Brüder und Schwestern Jesu (Stuttgart: Katholisches Bibelwerk, 1967).

papists explain lol

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Intrusive thoughts in Christians

Do you thin Satan can interject thoughts into the minds of saved Christians?

This pastor uses the example of the story of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5 to indicate that Satan can put in bad thoughts into saved Christians.



Are Intrusive thoughts a major problem among saved Christians?

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Who is the Father?

Who is the Father? I know who is the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit, well, who is the Father?

They are all God, but WHO IS THE FATHER?

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Is this board the christian /ggrevolt/?

So, /christianity/ is to /christian/ what /ggrevolt/ was to /gghq/? It seems like this board is just a place for disgruntled anons who were banned from the bigger board to moan and complain about that board and plot some autistic revenge. Am I wrong or is there an actual identity here that isn’t dripping with victimhood?

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Does anyone believe that her exorcism was real?

The exorcism of Annelise Michael.

I've read the transcript to see whether the "demons" had any knowledge that was either publicly unknown or unusual for a girl her age, but no, she or "they" even got Hitler's suicide wrong - claiming he died by fire, while all eyewitnesses unanimously agree that he took cyanide and then shot himself, and that his body was only burned afterwards. So clearly a girl who got her history facts mixed up, and not some entity from hell, or even the "demon Hitler" himself.


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The God of calvinism is unjust

If I were born unable to respond to the gospel, it would be unjust to condemn me to eternal hell because of my lack of response.

This injustice is recognizable by natural theology (your conscience), and by God's description of responsibility in scripture.

Calvinists, please respond.

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What can we all agree on?

I noticed there's a lot of fighting on this board between Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox. So I figured we should make a thread focusing on the common enemies to Christianity.

I'll list a few I can think of:






The question arises, how do we turn these people away from the devil and away from their Satanic instincts?

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To fight God

I was raised protestant, but eventually came to the conclusion that God did not exist based on classic dialectic discussions, though I myself always categorized myself as a hopeful agnostic since then, as outright denial I felt was equally foolish. There is little unique to my story; I found /pol/, was filled with the rage instilled in me by the social degenerates who degraded me and my race and the propagandized their rank and file empty headed communists and various racial surprise soup to both deny me right to be heard and branded me with the sin of being born white. I long since trained my mind and tempered my soul with vengeance, I hated and still hate freely those who demean my people, turn them into walking garbage can and corrupt the world.

But now even the people of /pol/ are a walking cesspit of larping empty headed creatures, posting the same meaningless, thoughtless tripe ad infinitum. They have like the left, devoured every ally who did not appease their endless needs and destroyed whatever power / unity they were actually beggining to accumulate in 2015 and 2016 and forfeited it KKK Redneck tier patheticism. The board infested likewise by CIA and FBI posters have also exacerbated their natural instinct to eat each other alive at every turn, and now stand utterly and hopelessly divided.

This and another event I shall not describe for brevity have levied me with a conclusion; that is, evil prevails. And yet in this thought I look out to the thought that in such case there must in fact be a God, for if no good can take true route but only parody or even partially imitate it, surely there is an other above whom this descends from. But from this revelation comes great and new found rage.

Why has such evils been visited upon us? Why are the caananites at our doors? Why must this Christians insist on Jesus and forgive their atrocities and obscenities, why not be like the Father who wiped Gomorah from the face of the earth for the blight it was? Why is it written "vengeance is mine", what right does God have to justice that is not his to take or savor? Why has the Father not raised an army like the Crusades of the last sons of his gospel to repel the evils of many nations? Why does he allow courage & beauty to die in place of cowardice and decadence?

If God ever shined his providence on America, would anyone disagree that he has left? That he has forsaken us to die amongst enemies and evils, raising children whom shall destroy us and destroy his gospel? Where are the Crusaders? Who are these Fops and trust fund lushes you push out as supposed speakers of Truth? Is it not true Lord, that might makes Right? Are you not the embodiement of such philosophy, for who would follow a God without fear of power, but more accurately, who instills fear in the enemies of God, supernatural and corporeal, and who is capable of offering salvation? Would you be worshipped if such things could not be garunteed? Why then should forgiveness be offered to the demons in flesh, the degenerates who murder their children, the rapers of countries old and young?

I cry out for answers, if you were flesh would we not wrestle? Is there one among your followers here who has even a lucid note of illumed thought of your Godly word, or should I merely expect the same tripe? Why, must evil prevail?

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Catholic Pedophiles

More and more cases are coming to light now, and I must wonder, is there a single nation in the world whose children are save from Catholic pedophiles?

Are Catholics the most evil organisation in history, next to Jews and Muslims?

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Moving to Asia to find a christian wife

Thots everywhere in the West, even in churches. Given the slim prospects of finding a good, chaste wife here, I'm thinking about moving to Asialand to find better candidates. They're cleverer, more feminine, thinner, far less slutty, and there are now millions of Christians among them, in countries like China and Japan. The choice of country is complex since it involves very foreign cultures. The collectivist nature of China, for example, gives me pause. Let's plan our trips.

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Who was in the right here?

>walk in on my good pal attempting suicide

>he's about 5 seconds away from irreversibly doing it

>too far to keep him from doing it

>pull my gun and brain him before he can end his own life

phew, I saved my buddy from eternal hellfire. I guess I'm going to hell now though LMAO

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Who would have thought an early 90's cartoon like X-Men would actually promote God?

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Are we aliens

Is it posible god could be a super highly intelect alien

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Toronto Blessing

Toronto Blessing/ Charismatic movement

Is it god, mass hysteria & hypnosis or satan

I'm thinking hypnosis by leaning towards satan

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I'm having trouble understanding the relation of yahweh and jesus. As well as who and what is considered to be a jew. No I don't believe gnosticism is the correct answer cause jesus makes many references to fulfilling old testament prophecies and claiming to be the same God.

1. Why are the messages of yahweh and jesus radically different?

2. Is a gentile simply someone who doesn't believe in the one true god?

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Tritheism Thread

I’m sink of this trinitarian and unitarian bullshit. This thread is for true Christian Tritheists who understand the true nature of the Gods according to Biblical principles

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Satanic Suicide Shills Roam the internet looking for REAL BLOOD SACRIFICES


right side of the image shows /leftypol/

God bless you all.

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Why are all of the "Orthodox" "Christians" secret Arians?

Father = Son = Holy Ghost.

The Father is not superior to Jesus and Constantine did not found the church. Jesus did.

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Did I commit a mortal sin?

I was on twitter, I saw a lewd image in a quote tweet, I clicked on the tweet (I was using mobile twitter so I couldn't have just clicked on the poster's pfp) so that I could tell the account to repent and go to confession later since Ezekiel 33:9-33:9 tells us to warn others.

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Vatican 2 Rome in historical review

Everyone that posts on this board needs to listen to this

He exactly identifies the trad Catholic phenomenon that plagues imageboard culture, and it turns out it has a wide scope.

>Renewing Your Mind with R.C. Sproul: Rome in the Twentieth Century https://renewingyourmind.org/2019/07/23/rome-in-the-20th-century

>The Roman church as we know it isn't an institution since antiquity, it's medieval

>The wild Marian heresies are largely a result of the 20th century, via Vatican II

>If Francis is changing things in a way that the secular media is pleased with, is that a good thing?

>Catholics defer doctrine in favor of "implicit faith", you don't have to work out doctrine yourself you just need to place blind Faith in your benevolent instructors

How many times have you heard that here?

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Apostolic succession

This confuses and angers the prot.

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The State of Protestant Churches in the West

What does a Protestant sola scriptura guy like me do when the only churches I have available are the prosperity gospel peddling Israeli cocksucking rambling pastors whose laity have a cult idolization of said pastor and will get mad and yell and belittle the moment you express even a slight disagreement with his sermons or miss a couple days of church or the super soi cucked ones where they don’t even practice the Bible and will spout pro-illegal refugee and literal homo shit? This is the current state of Protestantism in the Western world folks

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Flag Debate

It seems there's been a debate around here about whether or not we should have an SDA flag on the board. This is a thread for discussing that question.

Criteria for adding a flag: (see >>7204)

>Requested by poster

>Flag represents a real (IRL) denomination with current member churches

>Only Christian denominations

The reason for objecting to an SDA flag is that the SDA's should not be considered Christian.

We are defining Christian broadly and in the most basic, historic way: affirming the doctrine of the trinity.

It is alleged that Seventh Day Adventists are not trinitarian, despite professing to be.

Is that true? If it can be proven, the flag will be removed.

Can the SDA anon give some insight?

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Micah 7:18 - Jermiah 17:4

Gal 2:16 - Matt 19:17

Gen 32:30 - Ex 33:20 - Tim 3:16

Is 45:7 - 1 John 4:8

Acts 22:9 - Acts 9:7

Deut 24:16 - Deut 5:9

Please help me here. Are these really contradictions?

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Terrible sacred architecture

Dudes I have something very strange to share with you.

Christ Presbyterian Church in Largo FL.


There's a tab on their tacky outdated website called "cloud of witnesses".

It's a page hosting a PDF split into multiple links because boomer web design. That PDF is a piece about their architecture made for the 50th anniversary of the church, and it is something else.

They have a strange idea about the (((star of David))) to symbolize connection to the OT, cedar in the building connects to Solomon, there's an empty cross suspended in the center with a crown above.. but then there are SEVENTY TWO busts around the sanctuary which are to symbolize the cloud of witnesses a la Hebrews 12, great figures of the faith.





>John the Baptist


Ok, alright, I'm tracking.. keep me posted


questionable but ok

>The prodigal son

>The good Samaritan

These are characters of parable, not really historical figures, but ok




>John Calvin

>Martin Luther

>John Knox

>Roger Williams

>JS Bach

Alright, good representation of Protestant history but this is kind of eclectic.. not distinctively Presbyterian

>Adoniram Judson

>William Carey

These are famous Baptist missionary heroes

>Walter Rauschenbusch

This is the commie social gospel false teacher

>Dietrich Bonhoeffer

le anti Hitler church man, but this is a liberal church so it's to be expected


Existentialist philosopher… Why?

>Woodrow Wilson


>George Washington Carver


>Martin Luther King


>Pope John XXIII


Is this a Presbyterian Church?

Didn't you just put Martin Luther up on the wall?

Take a look for yourself; they're really eerie too

(Warning: it's all in comic sans)

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Making a Pentecostal hate me

>be me

>like 6 years ago

>catholic, used to be prot

>work at prot camp for special needs kids

>can’t stand the prot stuff but all the autists and downies are awesome

>enjoy time with most of my prot friends but hate this one guy

>he’s a prick to the special needs campers and everyone else

>barely over 5 ft, has real LMS

>he’s even an indie lib, it just can’t get any worse

>we’ll call him smallanon

>camp sessions run a week then we have two days off

>camp term just ends

>me and some pals are about to drive to a random town and explore

>smallanon invites himself to go with us

>friends are too nice to say no


>get in the car and start chewing the fat

>we start mocking speaking in tongues

>smallanon gets off his phone and starts defending it

>learn that smallanon is Pentecostal

>hell yes

>im usually pretty civil arguing religion but I let the SOB have it

>wasn’t being a charitable catholic but boy was it delicious

>i absolutely obliterated every argument he tried to make

>finally he pulls out his trump card, something like they’ve done brain scans of tongue speakers and have shown parts of the brain being activated that are literally impossible for humans to do

>therefore it must be a spiritual presence helping them tongue speak

>don’t know enough about brains to say he’s full of it but who cares

>“smallanon, I do believe that these are spiritual experiences you’re having but it’s not God doing it, you’re being demonically possessed”

>we haven’t even gotten to the town yet

>mfw he silently weeps for the almost the rest of the ride

>mfw he doesn’t say one more word on that trip or to me the rest of our summer at camp

That was legitimately the last time I ever talked to him. You think I changed his mind? Did I go too far?

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Hi please read this thread is important !

Hi i want to make this thread because is important!sorry for my bad english i dont speak very well

Dear Christians and non christians people etc it seems that Youtube is full of pedofiles it seems that pedofiles make money with agency model teens and baby wear sexy hot custome .if you ask me if a have proof yes a have links videos but Youtube just disabled comments :




















============Bible verse KJV about adultery=================


Proverbs 6:32 - [But] whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he [that] doeth it destroyeth his own soul.

Matthew 5:28 - But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Hebrews 13:4 - Marriage [is] honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Exodus 20:14 - Thou shalt not commit adultery.

1 Corinthians 6:18 - Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

Proverbs 6:24-29 - To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman. (Read More…)

1 Corinthians 10:13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].

Deuteronomy 22:22 - If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, [both] the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.

John 8:4-11 - They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. (Read More…)

Matthew 5:32 - But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

1 Corinthians 7:1-40 - Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman. (Read More…)

Matthew 5:27-28 - Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: (Read More…)

Ephesians 5:5 - For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Romans 7:3 - So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

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Trinity thread

There are posters here who have been denying the Trinity in a couple threads, so let's consolidate the discussion to a dedicated thread.

Question: Is God triune?

Basis for argument: What does the Bible teach, and what is philosophically consistent?

Definition of the Trinity, according to classical Christian trinitarians:

<God is three persons

<Each person is divine

<There is one God

Most common non-trinitarian positions:

>God the Father is the only God

>The Father and Jesus are divine, but the spirit is not or is not a person

>The spirit does not exist

>There is no God (atheism, excluded from our debate itt)

If you reject trinitarianism, please justify yourself and be ready for scrutiny.

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Christian reading list

In classic imageboard culture, we should make a recommended book list. There's one or two floating around, but it's really just a bunch of titles with no structure.

I think it should be a work of systematic theology, persuading the reader to a position.

This is the best structured such infographic I've found, it should be a model.

Where did you start reading in systematic theology?

Did you get a hermeneutics book first?

Did you read a polemic for the conservative Christian position?

Would a chart have to be evangelical Protestant only and a different one Catholic only, or is there enough overlap in sys theology?

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Justify the 5 solae

Presume he's being open minded and wants to know if the five solae are in alignment with the Bible. What do you say?

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Pope Kissing the Quran

This image would usually always get deleted on /christian/ by the Catholic mod mafia.

The question I have for the few Catholics here is, why did your Catholic "God on earth" clearly venerate a blasphemous book? I know Catholics are mostly atheists, so it probably didn't make any difference to him, but it's still no good reason to do it. Is it because many Catholics are pedophiles and Muslims are pedophiles too?

If you're a Christian you can give your opinion too, not just Catholics.

God bless you.

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End times?

With mass migration on the rise, the middle east falling apart, climate change, huge advancements in technology, and the rise of censorship, do you think we're approaching the end of the world?

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Pastor Steven Anderson

I believe Steven Anderson to be a messenger of God in many ways. He speaks like one of the prophets, no? He is like I'sai'ah or Mal'a'chi! He is like J'ohn the Baptist! J'ohn the Baptist lead the way for Je'sus Christ 2000 years ago. I believe Pastor Steven Anderson might be leading the way for the second coming of Christ. I'm not saying I know the time as our Lord Je'sus himself says, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." (Matthew 24:36, KJV) And I say Amen to Jesus! I do believe though that he will be in some ways a new J'ohn the Baptist. Steven Anderson the Baptist! Amen! Soul winning will be revived! The KJV will become the standard in all Baptist churches! Faggots and homosexuals and dykes and LGBTQiawhateverthehell will be driven away from all that is holy! Women will dress modestly. Contraception will be preached against in all churches! Traditional Baptist hymns will be played. None of that contemporary crap. Rock music is music of The Devil plain and simple. Many folks don't know it but Satan infiltrates churches through Rock music. "Christian Rock" is deceptive. But that is what Satan does he "deceiveth the whole world". Amen. Je'sus may return in 1000 years or 100 years or 5 years or 40,000 years or 2 minutes from now. But I think after this great falling away we have expereinced, in some way, Pastor Anderson the Baptist and J'ohn the Baptist will be remembered as the greatest pastors ever besides our Lord and God and Saviour Je'sus Christ himself. Amen!

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Once and for all: I need an answer

Was Hitler Christian?

There are quotes and arguments of him as pagan, atheist, and Christian. What is the truth?

Did he do or say anything that categorically proves he was NOT Christian?

More specifically, was he saved? Am I going to meet Hitler in eternity?

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I have watched just about everything Jordan Peterson has put out, and while I think he does some epistemological sleights of hand, I wouldn't mind learning about morality from christians in person. But why does this God thing have to divide us?

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God is 1 you modalist

Deuteronomy 6:4: “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” 

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The Lord our God is one

Deuteronomy 6:4 says "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One." It doesn't say he is three in one it says he is one; Jesus says in Mark 12:29 "This is the most important: 'Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One." Jesus doesn't say he is God he says God is one and he never says he is a part of it.

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Just war theory is untenable

It's nothing more than a handwave to justify war. Almost everyone who invokes it just thinks that the mere mention of the concept suffices as a hand wave to excuse mass killing between states.

Libertarians are the only people who get this one right, because the libertarian anti-war position is the only one that's consistent with the Bible.

Change my mind.

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Demonic/dark forces

Christ Yeshua was very serious when He spake about demons and dark forces. I observed this piece of footage a few hours ago and it left me baffled. There is no doubt that there are dark forces in this plane of existence. The audio at 1:01 does not sound edited in. This sounds like something straight out of Hell itself. I know that I cannot possibly imagine the sounds from Hell, but this definitely sounds other-worldly without a doubt. From a so-called skin walker. What does /christianity/ think? There seems to always be dark things occurring in wooded areas such as forests and the like. Judge for yourself. But this is definitely intense and worth at least a discussion.


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The future of Christianity is colored

>go to church

>notice more blacks, mexicans and asians than whites

>pastor is black

>only a few white families

I cannot be the only one who notice this

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Christian Documentary Thread

Post your Christian Documentaries here

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Southern Israelite

What's /christianity/'s thoughts on Southern Israelite?


see the about section for his theology

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Catholic US Presidential Candidate 2020

Pete Buttigieg, is he the most Catholic candidate ever?

>His father, who was from Hamrun, Malta, studied to be a Jesuit priest before emigrating to the United States and embarking on a secular career as a professor of literature at the University of Notre Dame in South Bend.[13][14] The surname Buttigieg is of Maltese origin.[15] His mother was a professor at Notre Dame for 29 years.[16]

>The University of Notre Dame du Lac (or simply Notre Dame /ˌnoʊtərˈdeɪm/ NOH-tər-DAYM or ND) is a private Catholic research university in Notre Dame, Indiana.[7]

>Buttigieg is Christian,[76][77][78] and has said his faith has had a strong influence in his life.[79][49] His parents baptized him in a Catholic church as an infant and he attended Catholic schools.[80]

And he's a faggot of course:

>In a June 2015 piece in the South Bend Tribune, Buttigieg announced that he is gay.[93] He also is the first openly gay presidential candidate for the Democratic Party and the second overall, after Fred Karger, a Republican.[94]

>In December 2017 Buttigieg announced his engagement to Chasten Glezman, who has been a junior high school teacher for eight years; they had been dating since August 2015 after meeting on the dating app Hinge.[95][96][97] They were married on June 16, 2018, in a private ceremony at the Cathedral of St. James.[98][77] As of April 2019 Chasten also uses the surname Buttigieg.[99]


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What is the Holy Spirit?

No one to this day has been able to define it for me in words that mean anything. I’ve seen the Father defined as the uncaused cause and Jesus as Logic but never anything meaningful for the Holy Spirit.

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Stupid JWs.

How can Jesus be the Word of God who is God if God is only ONE PERSON?

this is the absolute state of Christian

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If you're on this site you're probably at least sympathetic to the white identitarian cause, and as students of church history and theology we are in a good position to contribute to metapedia.

Metapedia is an alternative online encyclopedia that intends to avoid the leftist historical revisionism and bias on Wikipedia. Their pages on religion are deficient and we can help, to the benefit of any reader who wants to know more about Christian topics.

If you affirm the metanarrative of the encyclopedia, please help.

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You think you can reject God because he isnt one single person?

Stop this at once or go to hell. You can NEVER prove God is merely ONE PERSON


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I love this pope

I love this pope

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All right

Which one of you posted this?


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The Holy Spirit is God

Get over it you moron baptists.

First you say OSAS and crap all over the early Christians and Scripture. Now you go out and deny the personhood and Godhood of the Holy Spirit?

Are you serious? You cant grieve a force. You cant tell me that the Spirit which must be received is just some angelic spirit and not God. Not when that Spirit is the one who is involved in the virgin birth

You guys are a joke

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Second Coming of Christ here



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Why Theism

Theism: belief in the existence of God.

Here is how to become a theist via philosophy through logical necessity:


Recognize that if ever there was nothing, nothing can spontaneously come into being. ex nihilo nihil fit; nothing comes from nothing.


Recognize that something exists. If you're not satisfied with looking out your window and affirming that the world is really there, try thinking. If you have capacity to think, you exist. Cogito, ergo sum; I think, therefore I am.


Recognize the law of causality. Every material effect must have an adequate antecedent or simultaneous cause. So, everything that exists either exists in and of itself, or is produced by something else.

Given these, the only answer that satisfies all three is the existence of a first uncaused cause. That cause is God.

If you weren't before, you are now a theist.

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Low IQ Catholics

I don't understand why RCs bitch about Protestants using the Masoretic


But so was the LXX, literally, it was translated by 70 Jews in Alexandria. Their logic is so retarded sometimes…

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Remember that God struck Onan dead.

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Imagine being a bong or euro

el oh el

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Finding God

Have you guys actually met Jesus or God? How did you find him? I envy those testimonies where people find God, to find something so special is an unmatched discovery.

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Hi i want to share to you a movie documentary is about planet Earth

Hi i want to share to you a movie documentary about earth the movie is from 2009 year the movie is called "HOME" and i want to share to you please dont remove this thread is good movie

The video link from youtube is from them who create the movie documentary they publish on youtube !

Have a nice day!

Link movie youtube:https://youtu.be/ZjE9T-KQZOU?t=73

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Hi i want to share to you a movie documentary about earth the movie is from 2009 year the movie is c

Hi i want to share to you a movie documentary about earth the movie is from 2009 year the movie is called "HOME" and i want to share to you please dont remove this thread is good movie

The video link from youtube is from them who create the movie documentary they publish on youtube !

Have a nice day!

Link movie youtube:https://youtu.be/ZjE9T-KQZOU?t=73

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Kuroba Holo theme

This is how our board was meant to be enjoyed.

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People of the Book, hear this.

Jesus son of Mary is but a prophet, far be it from God to take a son. Say not three, but one. Jesus said, "O Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord."

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Is there any denomination more based than the new IFB?












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Feels thread

All i wanna do is talk about the devil's world system with other Christians and share out knowledge of evil.

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Fleeting Depiction of Lesbian Mothers in ‘Toy Story 4’ Characterized as Being ‘Subtle to Desensitize

And that's obviously the case. If the Walt Disney company is openly affirming the sexual revolution, and those revolutionaries are praising an action by the company, we should presume that it was intended.


>The quiet and fleeting depiction of lesbian mothers in an opening scene of “Toy Story 4” is being praised by homosexual advocates as a “small moment of normalization.” However, the cursory inclusion has also raised concern among some family groups who opine that it is a “subtle [way] to desensitize children” to homosexuality.

>According to reports, in the beginning of the animated film, as Woody’s new owner, Bonnie, attends her first day of kindergarten, in the background — among the other children arriving for class — is a boy who is dropped off by two women. The women, who appear to be the child’s “mothers,” also embrace the boy as they return later at the end of the school day.

>“[I]t’s certainly not the major representation that queer people have been waiting for, but it’s still important. This is one of the biggest movies of the year, after all, and will be seen by millions of all ages around the world,” opined the UK Gay Times.

>“Here was a major family-friendly film, one of the biggest Disney Pixar releases, and they included a lesbian couple with their son. It’s a small moment of normalization, even if it’s minor,” The Mary Sue also remarked.

"Normalization" is the same as desetization. Definitively, only the abnormal needs normalizing.

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Was Vatican II really behind everything?

I am sympathetic to the Trad Cath critique of the modern Catholic Church, but it seems to me like, far from what they allege, the so-called Catholic Church had fallen into innovation and heresy long before Vatican II. The only thing these people seem to care about is their precious Latin Mass, which is dubious in itself, and they also tack on criticisms of certain innovations which every Christian obviously despises, such as how John Paul II and Francis have pandered to infidels and sodomites. Yet they conveniently ignore how, even before Vatican II, the Church had long been gradually changing its teachings and softening its positions on things like slavery, usury, crusade, Muslims, Jews, etc. The Catholic Church has always softened its views on such thing in accordance with how society in general has changed its views on them. There has hardly ever been any real respect for Tradition at all.

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Explain the difference

Well? What is it?

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The Gospel of John 2003 a movie for you!

Hi i want to share to you The movie Gospel of John 2003 [THE LIFE OF JESUS] is a full movie youtube

please watch this:

link movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mgUPt2KI08

please dont remove this thread i hope you watch this movie


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Head coverings for women

Check out embed. He makes a good case for it. This is the pastor who was recently arrested in Canada for street preaching, btw.

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Jesus Never Mentions Hell

Jesus Never Mentioned Hell; all he talked about was a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth that he was far more likely to send a rich man to than an unbeliever.

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Consuming blood?

I don't understand. Why is it so many Christians do not abstain from the blood of animals? Are they afraid it's Judaizing? I'll admit I sort of was but after looking into it more I have come to a more precise understanding.

The commandment was given before the Law, before the people of Israel or the Hebrews were even a thing. God told Noah,

>Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood." - Genesis 9:3-4

The New Testament itself commands it,

>"Therefore it is my judgment that we do not trouble those who are turning to God from among the Gentiles, but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood." - Acts 15:19-20

Blood is the life. It is why Jesus says,

>"So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves." - John 6:53

We who are in the body of Christ must share in his life for eternal salvation, for in our baptisms were are crucified with him, and we are raised with him to eternal life (Romans 6:3-4). We share in a communion when consuming the holy Eucharist, being a part of the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:12-13).

On the sacrificial animal the Israelite would lay his sin upon it, and it is through its life that purification would be possible (Leviticus 17:11). But Christ came and put on our humanity, not to simply stand in place of us, for we know that the blood of lambs and bulls does not actually forgive sin (Hebrews 10:4). Christ perfects our humanity, and this culminates on the cross where our salvation is, and in his resurrection whereby we too might be raised. Christ is the second Adam (1 Corinthians 15:22), and his life and death restore us to Eden, so by participating in his life and death in baptism and the literal eating and drinking of his blood, we gain eternal life.

Consuming the blood of another being is attempting to participate in the life of that being, life of which there is no merit or salvation. Especially in the case of a sacrificial animal it would put our sins right back on us by participating in a life offered for sin, pouring out the blood the Lord to atone.

Roman Catholics have set aside the Apostolic decree, but thankfully everyone on here knows their sect is wrong. I'm glad I've matured and I think I'm going to convert to Orthodoxy soon. But anyway, I'm just saying that the Biblical text both Old and New prohibit the consumption of blood. What do you guys think? I'm open to other suggestions.

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Revelation comfy

>tfw the world is so degenerate and life overall is so miserable I want Revelation to happen already.

How did the world get to the point where I look forward to what is supposed to be a future massacre of people like me? Is it bad that I feel this way?

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If your Christian denomination isn't represented by the flags here, let me know and tell me what the appropriate emblem is


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Conversations with God


I didn't realize how deluded some people are. Believing any and all religions are okay, that we are all gods, we can choose to re-incarnate and begin a new life on earth, over and over again. The poor man was having conversations with the devil and millions of people read his books.

"What's the big deal? These books teach being good and have peace." So what? These are important things, yes, but you're sort of forgetting about justice. About right and wrong (He says there is no right and wrong, it's just whatever works for you). Judgment will not go well for these people. Please pray that anyone who reads this man's books will see that it is from the pit of hell!

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The Unsaved

Reminder that the unsaved are not merely waiting for your astounding apologetic argument to persuade them, they're actively rebelling against the truth of God.

If you share the gospel with a man and he does not beleive, you are not failing to reach an impartial observer; he had already chosen to reject God and is choosing again to continue rejecting God. He is without excuse.

In the inverse, this means that you don't need to train until you're an expert apologist before sharing the gospel. The reality of God is already an observable fact to everyone you encounter.

God bless

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How to approach evangelizing a Jordan Peterson follower?

A nonbeliever friend of mine is lost and in need of Christ. He has recently shown receptivity and curiosity for the Christian message. I continue to pray for God to draw him to Himself.

This friend has previously never had much inclination to philosophical thinking and the like, until recently. He has spoken favorably about Jordan Peterson and owns a copy of his book "12 Rules for Life". I have never seen him reading anything before so this may be a change in his priorities. I think he is searching for meaning.

I don't have much respect for self-help books nor Peterson's dishonest use of the Christian ethos in his efforts to reform his cult following of young, wayward men. I have mentioned the latter once to my friend but I did not want to belittle what could be his first real search for true meaning in life, so I said no more.

How do you all think I should approach my friend to share the Gospel?

Would it look any differently than if I wanted to talk to any atheist?

More info: A stumbling block for my friend is how he sees the morals of the Bible. He is unconvinced, for example, that a heterosexual marriage is at all more morally good than a homosexual union since a homosexual union is between consenting adults and "doesn't hurt anyone". As far as I can tell, his view of morality is that people just do what works for them and that is what's good.

Following my gut I intend to share first and foremost my love of Christ and how mind-blowing he is as seen in the Bible.

This thread may not be necessary since my friend hasn't seen fit to bring up Peterson again, but I thought it could provoke some good discussion. Thoughts?

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Enemy to the world

I'm a criminal defence lawyer and I just sat through an infuriating sentencing hearing. The judge screamed and yelled and played silly games and acted like a demoniac all trial. Finally he convicted someone who was likely innocent and sentenced him to a long jail term.

When a judge is merciful to some one accused of a crime, it makes the papers and everyone is outraged. But no one cares when a judge shows no mercy, convicts people who are likely innocent based on flimsy grounds and gives outrageously disproportionate sentence.

Given a choice between judgement and mercy, I want to be on the side of mercy every time. And if this heartless world is against me, that's all the more evidence I'm right. Christians believe that one day God will rain fire on this whole wicked world. As far as I'm concerned that day can't come soon enough. Doing this job has thought me the meaning of "he who is a friend to this world is an enemy of God."

What's it like being a criminal defence lawyer? For me, I've started cheering on natural disasters and I now think hell i a splendid idea. I hope many judges and politicians will spend an eternity there.

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Marcus Eli Ravage

I've seen this picture pop up from time to time.


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BREAKING: God is judging America because of its sodomy! Get in here!

6.4 earthquake hits California on July 4th! Possible bigger one coming!


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Hi am new here on 8chan please read my message .!

Hi am new here on 8chan I come here because this board is for Christian i hope i am not wrong!Sorry i don't speak very well English i hope you will understand me ..! i want to show you a video from youtube about Donald Trump well you ask me why talk about this?? Right?? well there are Christians and evangelicals etc that support Donald Trump !about the video is about evil song about Satan etc you will understand more after you watch the video i hope you will watch link video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9nK3rm0gdM


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Pointless thread.

I'm an atheist living in the West. Christianity is on the decline in my country, and I don't think people here fully appreciate what it is that we're losing. It's not like people are becoming more intelligent and enlightened (*tips*), instead they're increasingly just fucking around with crystals and shit. Meanwhile our national identity has become weakened with the loss of a shared set of values and beliefs. On the personal level it's even worse because church attendance has historically been an important source of community in people's lives. I guess what I'm trying to say is that a religion has benefits. And if we must have a religion I'd rather it was the one of Christ. He's undeniably good, almost impossibly so. If there was a God I would believe Christ was his son.

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the propaganda flat earth on bible

The propaganda flat earthers shill say that the Bible verse say that the earth is flat and space is a dome those people are evil they make money on this some of them are freemasons ,secret societies,and gov agents

video exposed them:

link1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4YVBBbpaOY

link2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8hPfrhu2fA

link3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQi7zzuWXiQ

link4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2br8fxN5EM

link5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9aOhsybPlM

link6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjlyCFKCs74

link7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUjTMl_8faY

link8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elMcMi_rAp0




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Aron Ra, perfect example of a scoffer who simply just doesn't get it.


He has dozens if not hundreds of videos bashing Christianity and religion. He talks quickly and uses a sarcastic monotone, loaded with logical fallacies and denial of the Word's meaning

Matthew 13v13: That is why I speak to them in parables, because looking they do not see, and hearing they do not listen or understand.

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vanity vanity, all is vanity

>I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Ecclesiastes 9:11

What did he mean by this /Christianity/?

Does this mean that life is all just random chance and applying yourself to be the best makes no difference?

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I've accepted jesus into my heart

But I still feel so lonely and depressed

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Evangelizing a Jordan Peterson Follower?

A nonbeliever friend of mine is lost and in need of Christ. He has recently shown receptivity and curiosity for the Christian message. I continue to pray for God to draw him to Himself.

This friend has previously never had much inclination to philosophical thinking and the like, until recently. He has spoken favorably about Jordan Peterson and owns a copy of his book "12 Rules for Life". I have never seen him reading anything before so this may be a change in his priorities. I think he is searching for meaning.

I don't have much respect for self-help books nor Peterson's dishonest use of the Christian ethos in his efforts to reform his cult following of young, wayward men. I have mentioned the latter once to my friend but I did not want to belittle what could be his first real search for true meaning in life, so I said no more.

How do you all think I should approach my friend to share the Gospel?

Would it look any differently than if I wanted to talk to any atheist?

More info: A stumbling block for my friend is how he sees the morals of the Bible. He is unconvinced, for example, that a heterosexual marriage is at all more morally good than a homosexual union since a homosexual union is between consenting adults and "doesn't hurt anyone". As far as I can tell, his view of morality is that people just do what works for them and that is what's good.

Following my gut I intend to share first and foremost my love of Christ and how mind-blowing he is as seen in the Bible.

This thread may not be necessary since my friend hasn't seen fit to bring up Peterson again, but I thought it could provoke some good discussion. Thoughts?

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What's the deal with the Jesuits?

So I hear the term Jesuits tossed about in conspiracy theories or rants quite a bit, but don't really know a lot about them. From light research, I know that they're a Catholic religious order that engaged in evangelism, school founding, and took part in some black ops style stuff against the Protestants as part of the Counter-Reformation. But I've even heard Catholics themselves speak of the Jesuits with disdain and distrust. The overall vibe I get, whenever they're talked about, is of some sort of shady secret Illuminati-esque organization. What's their deal?

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A question to Catholics

No disrespect meant with this question, in fact I'm considering becoming catholic myself but I'm hesitating after a discussion I had with a catholic coworker. I asked him about freemasons, and if they are still excommunicated from church. He said they are in mortal sin and denied communion. I then asked what his opinion would be on them if the pope said tomorrow that they were fine. He said he'd accept them. I also asked him the same about abortion and homosexuality. He said he wouldn't agree. I understand that there is a big schism in the church about Vatican 2. If a Vatican 3 happened that said gay is ok and abortion is a right, would the catholic church still be the one true faith? Are you just supposed to believe whatever the church says and assume it knows better?

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I really can't stand this term. It's implying that Jews worship the same God as Christians. God sent His only Son to become the Messiah, the promised king of the world.

If they deny this God, they become worshipers of the Law, of Moses. Their values are based on their Talmud, their rabbinic rules, not the grace, love, mercy, and full self-sacrifice that was taught by the true fulfillment of the law.

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Local church involvement

What do you actually do at your local church /christianity/?

Sing in the choir?

Children't ministry?


Homeless ministry?

You do contribute, don't you?

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A Young Earth and the Great Flood

After doing even a little bit of research, historical, geological and paleontological evidence point so strongly towards a flood that it kills me people deny it.

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Thoughts on modesty

Jesus says in Matthew 5:28 "that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart"; both my copiers initially use "anyone", and then get gender specific saying "his" so I'm just going to assume Jesus meant that this applies mainly to men. Anyway, should woman coverup because they love the men around them and want to help them not sin?

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Christian Denominations

How do the different denominations reconcile the fact that some of their churches doctrine is blatantly contrary to the teaches in the Holy Bible?

Common themes: Idolatry, unmarried priests, vain repetitions, referring to priests as father, "Virgin" Mary, sainthood, the Pope being the mouthpiece of God

Are Catholicism and Orthodoxy in need of a systematic change?

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Christian denominations

How do the different denominations reconcile the fact that some of their churches doctrine is blatantly contrary to the teaches in the Holy Bible?

Common themes: Idolatry, unmarried priests, vain repetitions, referring to priests as father, "Virgin" Mary, sainthood, the Pope being the mouthpiece of God

Are Catholicism and Orthodoxy in need of a systematic change?

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What exactly is gnosticism?

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Christian Fascist Site

Reposted from >>>/fascist/11471

Searching the internet looking for Fascist/nazi sites and i stumbled across this website, thoughts? They have some interesting articles on the bourgeois, acting against the satanic system as well as an article on christians being fascists and common misconceptions about it


they have an article debunking these misconceptions


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Pantheism and Paganism worship Satan

This video gives an effective Christian answer to all the "Muh sun God", "every god is satan" and "Muh horus" nonsense. It also explains why Catholics worship Mary, or why they even need a feminine aspect of God. I really would like your opinion on this because it's something I've believed to be true just without good articulation.

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Hello, I'm an orthodox atheist, so I consider the community itself to be the higher power. In my world, the good old fashioned tribal council is about as good as a justice system can get. (Mob rule.)

I'm supposed to be lutheran by birth, but the naïvety has by and large worn off, and I have just about no trust left in my fellow man.

I'm tired of entitled welfare mommas who are unwilling to form commitments, and I'm considering expanding my search parameters.

I consider mormons and quakers to be likely candidates for me to search out a quality woman.

As long as the nonsense is completely foreign, or kept to a minimum, I'm able to endure religious people.

This may mean that frankly, I may be more open to islam, because the muslims are a bit more tolerant of cannabis.

That being said. Do you have any suggestions for sects, cults, or other major schisms that may be worthwhile?

To be clear, I am asking for examples of active communities who have a functioning (and malleable) moral code.

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Question to Catholics

No disrespect meant with this question, in fact I'm considering becoming catholic myself but I'm hesitating after a discussion I had with a catholic coworker. I asked him about freemasons, and if they are still excommunicated from church. He said they are in mortal sin and denied communion. I then asked what his opinion would be on them if the pope said tomorrow that they were fine. He said he'd accept them. I also asked him the same about abortion and homosexuality. He said he wouldn't agree. I understand that there is a big schism in the church about Vatican 2. If a Vatican 3 happened that said gay is ok and abortion is a right, would the catholic church still be the one true faith? Are you just supposed to believe whatever the church says and assume it knows better?

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Question to Catholics

No disrespect meant with this question, in fact I'm considering becoming catholic myself but I'm hesitating after a discussion I had with a catholic coworker. I asked him about freemasons, and if they are still excommunicated from church. He said they are in mortal sin and denied communion. I then asked what his opinion would be on them if the pope said tomorrow that they were fine. He said he'd accept them. I also asked him the same about abortion and homosexuality. He said he wouldn't agree. I understand that there is a big schism in the church about Vatican 2. If a Vatican 3 happened that said gay is ok and abortion is a right, would the catholic church still be the one true faith? Are you just supposed to believe whatever the church says and assume it knows better?

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A question to Catholics

No disrespect meant with this question, in fact I'm considering becoming catholic myself but I'm hesitating after a discussion I had with a catholic coworker. I asked him about freemasons, and if they are still excommunicated from church. He said they are in mortal sin and denied communion. I then asked what his opinion would be on them if the pope said tomorrow that they were fine. He said he'd accept them. I also asked him the same about abortion and homosexuality. He said he wouldn't agree. I understand that there is a big schism in the church about Vatican 2. If a Vatican 3 happened that said gay is ok and abortion is a right, would the catholic church still be the one true faith? Are you just supposed to believe whatever the church says and assume it knows better?

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Pinterest shadowban Bible verses

Project Veritas reveal video with proof that Pinterest shadowban Bible verses here video link youtube: https://youtu.be/yuX87JFzLFc?t=506

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Is "nazi" a slur against Germans?

Askenazi Jews are Jews from Europe but the word "Ashkenazi" comes from the Hebrew word for Germany. In Genesis 10:3 a man by the name of Ashkenaz is mentioned; is this man, Ashkenaz, the father of the Germanic peoples or am I totally wrong and it is just a coincidence.

I find it weird that the term "Nazi" went on to be used against "National Socialists" as "Nazi" sounds nothing like "National Socialist"

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What is Zoroastrianism?

Does it have any truth? Is it compatible with the Bible?

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Documentary thread

Post your docs here, make sure it's Christian related.

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It seems that Google,Youtbe ,Mozilla, censorship Christianity etc

PLease don't remove this thread please read this for info have a nice day:


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If you dont read the bible yourself, you trust man


This my friends is true sola scriptura

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Dispensationalism vs. Covenant Theology

I'm sure a lot of you here believe in dispensationalist theology, and I'd like to talk about it for the sake of becoming more informed. It's been a concern for me as of late, since I got into a discussion with a friend and found out that he believes Jews are granted salvation, somehow, through Christ, without believing in Christ.

So here are my first objections:

1) To claim that God intended for Christ to be messiah only to the Jews, yet that they rejected him, upsetting God's plan, completely denies God's supreme sovereignty.

2) The belief that the ceremonial law, including the sacrificial system, will be reinstated during Christ's reign denies the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice.

3) If Jews do not accept the New Covenant, they are still bound to the Mosaic Covenant, thus dooming them to hell.

4) This interpretive scheme is less than 200 years old.

5) Scofield himself was a heathen, and the publishing of the Scofield Bible was likely funded by zionists. ( https://www.wrmea.org/015-october/the-scofield-bible-the-book-that-made-zionists-of-americas-evangelical-christians.html http://pilgrim-platform.org/2010/c-i-scofield/ )

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Your experince with God

Today i believe i had a spiritual experience with God. I was walking into town and felt spirits talking to me, and i said out loud "if you're real have someone talk to me" and i ran into two people who i used to know but haven't seen and haven't talk to in a while.

If you've had an experience with God recently I'd love to hear it?

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Atheism doesn't work logically...

The fact that the moon is 400 times smaller than the sun and the sun is 400 times farther away from the moon than from the earth so that a perfect solar eclipse can happen should prove God to a lot of atheists. Otherwise it would be an astronomical coincidence that is almost on the scale of impossible. Sure it could happen, but the fact that it happens to us counted with the fact that as far as we know we are the only planet in the 93 billion light year wide universe harboring life should pretty much prove God right there. So I just don't get atheists. I really don't. Do you understand their logic?

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Debunking the lie of the 'muh gorillions keeled/torted by the Catholic Church'

Any guides on effectively doing this? Often still see those kinds pop up and used to alot back in the earlier 2010s ugh.

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science has disproved your religion

science has disproved your religion, and you are essentially jews.

have you ever really read the bible?

>most of its content is mostly looked over by both the christians and jews. BECAUSE MOST OF IT IS JUST STUPID ILOGICAL BULSHIT

think otherwise? then try to actually live by the bible fag.

also religion is obsolete, the function religion had was to both answer the question the naturally curious humans had and also to put laws on society so it doesn't fucking collapse, by using the fear of god as leverage.

Now the science can answer any question about our world and ourselves, about how it works. and when it comes to maintaining the structure of society we have the laws and different organisms to enforce it.

>take the redpill of religion anon.

>there is no god.

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If you are not a marcionist, know that you are a bluepilled.

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Finding a Good Christian Wife

How do I find a good wife who isn't a whore? Preferably on the internet because I live in a desert.

A friend is going to marry a girl he got to know through MSN Messenger. That doesn't exist now and I don't know really what replaced it.

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Behold, a wicked, heretic, blasphemer. Press S to spit.

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Tridentine Creed

I, with a firm faith believe and profess each and everything which is contained in the Creed which the Holy Roman Church maketh use of. To wit:

The Apostolic and Ecclesiastical traditions and all other observances and constitutions of that same Church I firmly admit to and embrace.

I also accept the Holy Scripture according to that sense which holy mother the Church hath held, and doth hold, and to whom it belongeth to judge the true sense and interpretations of the Scriptures. Neither will I ever take and interpret them otherwise than according to the unanimous consent of the Fathers.

I also profess that there are truly and properly Seven Sacraments of the New Law, instituted by Jesus Christ our Lord, and necessary for the salvation of mankind, though not all are necessary for everyone; to wit, Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance, Extreme Unction, Holy Orders, and Matrimony; and that they confer grace; and that of these, Baptism, Confirmation, and Holy Orders cannot be repeated without sacrilege. I also receive and admit the accepted and approved ceremonies of the Catholic Church in the solemn administration of the aforesaid sacraments.

I embrace and accept each and everything which has been defined and declared in the holy Council of Trent concerning original sin and justification.

I profess, likewise, that in the Mass there is offered to God a true, proper, and propitiatory sacrifice for the living and the dead; and that in the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist there is truly, really, and substantially, the Body and Blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ; and that a conversion takes place of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood, which conversion the Catholic Church calls Transubstantiation. I also confess that under either species alone Christ is received whole and entire, and a true sacrament.

I steadfastly hold that there is a Purgatory, and that the souls therein detained are helped by the suffrages of the faithful. Likewise, that the saints, reigning together with Christ, are to be honored and invoked, and that they offer prayers to God for us, and that their relics are to be venerated. I most firmly assert that the images of Christ, of the Mother of God, ever virgin, and also of other Saints, ought to be kept and retained, and that due honor and veneration is to be given them.

I also affirm that the power of indulgences was left by Christ in the Church, and that the use of them is most wholesome to Christian people.

I acknowledge the Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church as the mother and teacher of all churches; and I promise true obedience to the Bishop of Rome, successor to St. Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and Vicar of Jesus Christ.

I likewise undoubtedly receive and profess all other things delivered, defined, and declared by the sacred Canons, and general Councils, and particularly by the holy Council of Trent, and by the ecumenical Council of the Vatican, particularly concerning the primacy of the Roman Pontiff and his infallible teaching. I condemn, reject, and anathematize all things contrary thereto, and all heresies which the Church hath condemned, rejected, and anathematized.

This true Catholic faith, outside of which no one can be saved, which I now freely profess and to which I truly adhere, I do so profess and swear to maintain inviolate and with firm constancy with the help of God until the last breath of life. And I shall strive, as far as possible, that this same faith shall be held, taught, and professed by all those over whom I have charge. I N. do so pledge, promise, and swear, so help me God and these Holy Gospels of God.

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Attending church as a lone sheep

What options of going to church does a Christian have if all the churches in their geographical vicinity do not align with their beliefs?

>(say within a radius of 300 miles)

and the only people who they may consider brethren are scattered in little pockets around the world,

Should they put aside attending any of the other denominational services,,, should they simply attend the nearest church even though they flat out don't agree with them,,, or is there another option

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History of Catholic censorship

Reminder that the RCC forbade (not only recommended against) the reading of thousands of books without permission from mommy church. This went on until the 20th century.

Banned books included:

>Luther and Calvin, for daring to believe what the Bible says about salvation

>Thomas Hobbes, Blaise Pascal, Rene Descartes and other philosophers, for thinking for themselves

>John Stuart Mill, for believing in political liberty

>Victor Hugo, because ?????

They even banned the entirely Roman Catholic, Benedictine monk Staupitz from history, who denounced the Reformation, because he was teacher to Luther.

This isn't something you do without cognitive dissonance. Truth doesn't fear investigation.

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>Why yes, I do go to the traditional early service at First Baptist, how could you tell?

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Self Flagellation

Catholics, defend this

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Have you guys seen it yet? What do you think?

Documentary about the Catholic Church sexual abuse cases in Poland, "Tell no one" (with subtitles):


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Lunar Sabbath

Does this board keep the Creator's true Sabbath?

>if yes

How do you measure the times & seasons?

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Christianity and meditation

What is Christian meditation and what role does it play in the Christian life? Is mindfulness meditation inherently incompatible with Christian thought and teaching? I have some half-baked takes of my own but I'd like to hear your thoughts first.

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888 kills 666

I believe the end of the world is approaching. There will be a great war in the middle east. The three monotheisms will battle for control of the holy city. There will be death and destruction. Satan will rule for a time, and again another time, and a time and a half through the antichrist. Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Israel, America, Russia, China, will war in the Levant and Mesopotamia. On the banks of the Nile, on the streams of the Tigris and Euphrates. In Jerusalem and Meggido. Then the Son of Man will come on the clouds of heaven, the dead shall be resurrected and the final judgement of mankind. He is coming back to judge.

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Forget subject

How do you cope with the fact that Christianity is more than likely just a way for Jews to control us more?

The catholic cucks in the other board deleted this.

Like Jesus was mostly focused on money the entire time. The rich won't inherit the kingdom. The only law he got rid of really was too make us work on Sundays.

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AMA Coptic Christian

Hello. I think I am the only Copt on this board. I was on /christian/ before I got banned a long time ago. I am from Egypt but I no longer live there. Please excuse my english if it is not that great. Ask me anything everyone. :)

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Paganism is not an existential threat to Christianity irl (at least right now)

The singular most important site of Paganism, on their most important day of the year, draws this crowd.

That's a crowd, but my church alone manages that on a normal sunday, 52 weeks of the year.

How many do you think treat it merely as a point of culture, rather than spiritual? At least half?

Should rennaisance festival-goers be counted as pagan statistics too?

Remember this the next time you get involved with a larper on the internet.

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seedy televangelists

BBC does expose on seedy televangelists.


This kind of heresy seems to be very popular in America and is growing worldwide as well.

Why do people still fall for this stuff?

Is there anything Christians can do to oppose it?

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Christian communities

Recommend Christian online communities that aren't full of redditors and "leftist Christians."

I like to read the game reviews on https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/. For each game they review, they provide a "morality score," based on Christian teachings. Solid Christian gals and lads on that site.

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Lunar Sabbath

What does this board think of the lunar sabbath.

and or the keeping of the Sabbath in general

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