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c3e327 No.12243

Jehovah is God Almighty, there is no other. The trinity doctrine is fake. Worshiping Jesus is blasphemy! Jesus is the only begotten son of Jehovah Almighty, he is his chief archangel and was instructed by Jehovah to create the universe but all worship and glory passes through Jesus to Jehovah and Jehovah alone!

"IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD

AND THE WORD WAS A GOD

AND THE WORD WAS A GOD

AND THE WORD WAS A GOD

AND THE WORD WAS A GOD

AND THE WORD WAS A GOD

AND THE WORD WAS A GOD

JOHN 1:1

Read the Greek it says the Word is a god which the Bible uses for angels, Jesus is not God! Trinity believers are polytheists! You worship 3 gods admit it when the Bible says there is only one true God who exists outside of all things. We worship only one true God, we are monotheists, trinity believers are polytheistic! Jesus is a creation of Jehovah and exists in a created state. Repent! Repent of your idolatry and worship Jehovah alone. Jesus will lead you to Jehovah through his loving force the Holy Spirit, but Jesus wants you to worship Jehovah and Jehovah ALONE!

“I am Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

YOU MUST NEVER HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BESIDES ME

YOU MUST NEVER HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BESIDES ME

YOU MUST NEVER HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BESIDES ME

YOU MUST NEVER HAVE ANY OTHER GODS BESIDES ME

DEUTERONOMY 5:6-7

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68d71a No.12244

Matthew 2:11

And when they had come into the house, they saw the young Child with Mary His mother, and fell down and worshiped Him. And when they had opened their treasures, they presented gifts to Him: gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

What does God do when you worship an idol? He curses you, or even strikes you dead. He would not tolerate idolatry in the presence of the Messiah! Obviously. That means that the infant Jesus or His Father should have struck the Magi dead! But He does not. Same with when Saint Thomas touches His wounds, and confesses Him as God. He was worshiped even as a child–the Magi understood the prophecy of Balaam, and that it was the Prince of Peace, the Messiah. As was pointed out, Jesus ascribed to Himself the name of (Tetragram) Yahweh, He says "I AM" in multiple Gospels. Yes, even Mark. That obviously means that He claims to be co-equal with God.

Let's take something we all heard at Christmas, and break it down.

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a Child is born (of a virgin), Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful (Judges 13 sheds light on this, it's the Angel of Yahweh, Christ in the OT - Numbers 22 clearly shows that the Angel of the LORD is Jesus, notice Balaam's language concerning Him), Counselor, Mighty God(!), Everlasting(!) Father, Prince of Peace.

As a bonus, read Saint John Chrysostom's commentary on Matthew 2:11

"They rejoiced, because their hopes were not falsified but confirmed, and because the toil of so great travel had not been undertaken in vain. By the mystery of this star they understood that the dignity of the King then born exceeded the measure of all worldly kings. “Mary His mother,” not crowned with a diadem or laying on a golden couch; but with barely one garment, not for ornament but for covering, and that such as the wife of a carpenter when abroad might have. Had they therefore come to seekan earthly king, they would have been more confounded than rejoiced, deeming their pains thrown away. But now they looked for a heavenly King; so that though they saw nought of regal state, that star’s witness sufficed them, and their eyes rejoiced to behold a despised Boy, the Spirit shewing Him to the ir hearts in all His wonderful power, they fell down and worshipped, seeing the man, they acknowledged the God. And though it were not then understood what these several gifts mystically signified, that is no difficulty; the same grace that instigated them to the deed, ordained the whole. Let Marcion and Paul of Samosata then blush, who will not see what the Magi saw, those progenitors of the Church adoring God in the flesh. That He was truly in the flesh, the swaddling clothes and the stall prove; yet that they worshipped Him not as mere man, but as God, the gifts prove which it was becoming to offer to a God. Let the Jews also be ashamed, seeing the Magi coming before them, and themselves not even earnest to tread in their path."

Hear, O Israel, The Lord our God is one Lord.

Pay attention,

The Lord(1) our God(2) is one Lord(3).

Here is how Jewish texts interpret the Shema Yisrael:

(From the Zohar) "Hear, O Israel, Adonai Eloheinu Adonai is one. These three are one. How can the three Names be one? Only through the perception of faith; in the vision of the Holy Spirit, in the beholding of the hidden eye alone.…So it is with the mystery of the threefold Divine manifestations designated by Adonai Eloheinu Adonai—three modes which yet form one unity.”

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bc15f1 No.12246

>>12243

>JOHN 1:1

>AND THE WORD WAS A GOD

I see that you don't read Greek.

<Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.

<ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν

The Word was with the God. Not a god.

<καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

And God was the Word.

John equates the Word and the God. They're together and they are one.

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cb701a No.12247

It doesn't say "the word was a God", koine Greek doesn't even have an indefinite article. That is a deliberate mistranslation only found in the JW version to enforce a doctrine after the fact.

This is a Christian board. Christianity is trinitarian. You are not a Christian, so if you want to post here do it respectfully, especially if you want to debate.

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35a0a0 No.12250

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c81284 No.12591

>>12243

>Jehovah

Is a mode of God that is inherently selfish.

> The trinity doctrine is fake

It is alightly corrupted by my estimation. The spiritus sancti can be transferred from pater to filius. Saying they are God, all three of them, only makes sense to me if you add another -o-.

>Worshiping Jesus is blasphemy!

It is certainly idolatry, but many Israelites had a tendency of reverting to it, so having him as the figurehead made things easier.

>>12243

>Jesus is the only begotten son of Jehovah Almighty, he is his chief archangel and was instructed by Jehovah to create the universe but all worship and glory passes through Jesus to Jehovah and Jehovah alone!

This statement does not make sense to me.

>Read the Greek it says the Word is a god which the Bible uses for angels

And the word angels denotes messengers.

>Jesus is not God!

No, but he was Good.

>Trinity believers are polytheists

If you are talking about Catholics, I agree! My Arian perspective only delineates the mechanism for transmission through generations.

>Repent

Oh wow..

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38ba59 No.12601

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cb701a No.12619

I spoke with some JWs today. What is our trinitarian answer as to why Jesus is called the firstborn of all creation (Col. 1:15)

JWs argue that this means Jesus was created. I'm finding answers that say "firstborn" is equivalent to "Lord" here, referencing his role in creation.

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/colossians/1-15.htm

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-first-born.html

JW bibles don't say "For by him were all things created,", they say all other things, because they think Jesus is created.

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