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1a602e No.12168

Mormonism IS NOT Christian

Mormons ARE NOT saved

For this reason, we need to counter mormonism wherever we can.

>Famous "Mormon Jesus" cartoon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3BqLZ8UoZk

>"Latter Day Satans: Mormons Exposed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la41vzXtnwU (Steven Anderson & Co documentary)

QRD on the Mormon history:

>2nd great awakening in the US

>Poor, charismatic young man Joseph Smith claims to have visions and to uncover ancient, undiscovered scriptures in New York

>Scriptures are translated, followers are gathered

>Smith is a Prophet

>Move to Missouri

>Driven out, move to Illinois

>Driven out, Smith killed by angry mob, begin exodus to unsettled Utah

>Time passes. Exponentially increase via birthrates and zealous proselytizing

>Doctrine develops. US govt intervenes. Schisms form.

Mormon doctrine basics:

>4 holy books: Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, Pearl of Great Price

>President is a prophet who regularly receives special revelation from God regarding doctrine

>Almost everyone goes to heaven, which has several levels

>There are an infinite number of gods and worlds

>Everyone previously had a spiritual life before physical birth

>Satan and Jesus are brothers

>Mormons ultimately strive to become Gods of other worlds in the afterlife

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1a602e No.12169

In arguing against mormonism:

DO NOT dive into conspiratorial business

DO NOT get hostile

Let mormonism argue against itself. It is incomprehensible.

You should know what the Bible teaches with references, just ask how Mormonism can fit in with that.

<The Bible teaches one God. How can Mormonism fit in with this?

Mormonism has internal contradictions in it's own story and with changes in doctrine.

<Mormons used to teach that God said black men would become white if they were good enough mormons. Now, you say that isn't true. Do you think God was wrong?

Resources:

>CES letter: https://read.cesletter.org/

A letter from a former mormon addressed to the mormon church authorities about undeniable contradictions and lies. Extremely well documented.

>CARM Mormonism: https://carm.org/mormonism

Numerous articles especially focusing on mormon scriptures and their incompatibility with the Christian Bible

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b7fdb6 No.12186

ENDLESS

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ce8834 No.12369

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ce8834 No.12371

>>12369

Disclaimer this doesn't seem to be a conservative Christian produced documentary

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db40b8 No.12410

>>12168

Bump.

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e03d2c No.12427

>>12186

CELESTIAL

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e03d2c No.12428

>>12168

One need not appeal to scripture natural theology alone.refutes polytheism.

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ce8834 No.12429

>>12428

explain

scripture is still a more effective refutation when mormons claim to follow the Chrisitan bible

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4e80ab No.12495

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ac216e No.12500

>>12429

I suppose that's true, not everyone accepts the premises of natural theology.

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0bf033 No.12528

Mormon missonairies came to my door today. I live in a heavy mormon region.

Their pitch is a basic message that God (heavenly father) wants you to have hapiness and a good afterlife. I was surprised to hear that the way they want you to know is by telling people to pray and ask God to confirm or deny mormonism to them. What an emotionally driven, untrustworthy method. Obviously, anyone who wants to believe is going to report that God told them mormonism is true.

I asked them about the ces letter, they weren't familiar. I told them that it seemed to have evidence proving the untrustworthiness of mormon scriptures and doctrine. They want to come back, so I told them I want them to look up the CES letter and talk about it when they return.

We talked about their doctrine of Smith restoring the church. I asked about the status of everyone who died in the interim period, she told me that mormons think we're in some quasi-purgatory state until the final judgment when it's determined where you'll go.

I challenged them on John 1 given that they deny monotheism and trinitarianism. It says the word was God and was with God. We agreed word refers to Jesus, but they didn't have an answer on how the word could be God since they view heavenly father and Jesus as totally distinct.

It was a pleasant conversation. Please pray for these two young women, we all know mormonism does not save.

Any thoughts? What could I say if they return that would have the best effect for their possible conversion?

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ff6890 No.12696

>>12528

>telling people to pray and ask God to confirm or deny mormonism to them. What an emotionally driven, untrustworthy method.

But what about asking people to repeat the Sinner's Prayer? That's also emotionally driven and untrustworthy.

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e4d6c7 No.12976

Consider this: Mormons (members of The Church of Jesus Christ) know the Bible better than any other Christian religion: https://www.pewforum.org/2010/09/28/u-s-religious-knowledge-survey/

Also, data is clear that they are also much better at living the principles of the Bible, including observing the Sabbath Day, living a morally superior lifestyle to other Christian sects.

How then can any Christian make the assertion that "Mormons are not Christian"? It feels like an immature child throwing a temper tantrum.

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f032ff No.12978

Yeah, they. Stahp.

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460693 No.12980

File: 6047a2420391f94⋯.pdf (291.8 KB,Petition_to_the_LORD_God.pdf)

File: 0585ce059a850ee⋯.jpg (202.4 KB,1596x1076,399:269,Throne_of_God.jpg)

Let anyone who is willing read this petition,

and with understanding bring it before God,

for His help.

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410d5d No.12982

File: d42330a686856ca⋯.jpeg (121.7 KB,615x700,123:140,Fj6W_jSakAEAZ2T.jpeg)

No one is "saved" you silly retard. There are no reasons to believe in an fter-life. Sure, Mormons are of stupid and fraudulent origin. Who could argue against that? Only Mormons would even rey to argue for Mormonism, but that doesn't mean what you believe in is not stupid.

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460693 No.12984

File: bda09e42045a8da⋯.pdf (317.23 KB,Petition_to_LORD_God.pdf)

File: b8495debd2b1f4f⋯.png (3.14 MB,1668x1078,834:539,JesusChrist_MorningStar_20….png)

File: 46dcd67f79ea141⋯.jpg (346.72 KB,720x1600,9:20,Screenshot_20221230_112657….jpg)

>>12980

The screenshot is a devotion from a "Walk to Emmaus" team meeting around Christmas time last year (2022). Also attached is a petition to our LORD God in the times we are in.

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