4318db No.9739
Let's have an earnest discussion on this topic, because up until now it was shut down on /christian/ every single time by the Catholic mods. How prevalent is homosexuality among the Catholic clergy, and if homosexuality and pedophilia are as common as most sources claim (+50%), then how can the Catholic church even be recognized as a valid Christian organisation? I know Catholics will claim that this is all somehow fabricated and that only <0.1% of priests are deviants, etc. pp., but here are my sources, and I can find many more:
>“You’re so attractive,” he said. “You’re in great shape and you have beautiful clothes. Come on, you must know that everyone is staring at you all the time. You know full well that every guy here including the priests and even the bishop would f*ck you if they had the chance.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/gay-catholic-inside-the-seminary-closet/
>But gay men probably make up at least 30 to 40 percent of the American Catholic clergy, according to dozens of estimates from gay priests themselves and researchers. Some priests say the number is closer to 75 percent. One priest in Wisconsin said he assumed every priest was gay unless he knows for a fact he is not. A priest in Florida put it this way: “A third are gay, a third are straight and a third don’t know what the hell they are.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/17/us/it-is-not-a-closet-it-is-a-cage-gay-catholic-priests-speak-out.html
>In September 2018 a report was leaked that reported that 3,677 children in Germany, mostly boys under age 13, were sexually abused by Catholic clergy members over the past seven decades". About 1,670 church workers, or 4.4% of the clergy, had been involved in the abuse which is "shocking and probably just the tip of the iceberg" according to Germany's Federal Justice Minister Katarina Barley[68]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases_by_country#Germany
I'm looking forward to a serious Catholic response to this.
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1d5158 No.9749
In my opinion, and many others. The catholic church was infiltrated a long time ago. Some say the creation of the second Vatican council but I imagine it was probably earlier than that. Catholicism has done its job of spreading its message to the world, but now those that despise Christ are making a mockery of the Pope and clergy. You can still be a catholic and not support the Vatican, if anything churches are centered around the community and charity rather then personal prayers.
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165199 No.9754
Some priests struggle with anger, some with slotg etc. These priests struggle with homosexual desire.
If they dont engange in homsexual acts, confess and are ashamed of their lust whats the problem?
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23927c No.9756
>>9749
>You can still be a catholic and not support the Vatican
Not a Roman Catholic. You are bound to view the Roman churchas a source of authority, by definition.
>>9754
>Some priests struggle with anger, some with slotg etc. These priests struggle with homosexual desire.
It is impossible for a non-reprobate to struggle with homosexual desire. You must be first given over to a depraved mind, beyond the standard sinful desires of man.
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4318db No.9759
>>9754
>If they dont engange in homsexual acts, confess and are ashamed of their lust whats the problem?
That there's so astronomically many of them.
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a4ca99 No.9763
>>9754
>Some priests struggle with anger, some with slotg etc. These priests struggle with homosexual desire.
Is it really "struggling" when you bend little boys over and ass fuck them daily for decades on end?
that's like saying I "struggle" with HOT POCKETS LOL
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a4ca99 No.9764
>>9759
when you have a mandatory celibate priesthood normal hetero sexual men are not going to join, it's all sexual deviants who think just swearing off sex for life will fix them….
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359235 No.9990
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165199 No.9995
>>9764
That's only true for men living in the insanely sexualized modern west where thoughts of celibacy are akin to torture and dying. It was never that way historically and it's not that way in other cultures that aren't as sex obsessed as ours is.
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643972 No.10212
>>9749
>The catholic church was infiltrated a long time ago. Some say the creation of the second Vatican council but I imagine it was probably earlier than that.
Yep, it was infiltrated a very long time ago:
https://youtu.be/SvEX15vd82w
https://youtu.be/DyuvkoiYlYk
https://youtu.be/Bqm8pt21cYg
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b26fd1 No.12484
NEWSFLASH: Leaders of world's richest cult hide sexual self-loathing behind superstitious dogma!
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3a3bf4 No.12539
>>12484
Newsflash: faggot has s— take, many such cases!
If you actually think these perfidious sodomites feel any shame about their perversions, you might feel more comfortable back at reddit. This post-facto rationalization of the homosexual infestation of the church being the reason for the celibacy requirement (or just the existence of sexual morality generally, if you're really a reddit atheist) is retarded. The homosexualization of the clergy is recent and only became acute AFTER sexual mores had loosened to the point that allowing open homosexuals in became acceptable. Of course this pattern is consistent; American public school systems have rates of abuse higher than the church for the exact same reason: homosexuals have massive rates of pedophilia and other perversions, and they all cover for each other in their networks of abuse.
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e247f6 No.12543
>>9754
People with strong homosexual tenancies should not become priests.
>>9756
And you call yourself a christian? Where in the church has this ever been preached? I bet you've masturbated to degenerate stuff, isn't this hypocritical?
You are being too severe, there is nothing clever or devout about this, it is harmful teaching. Be more careful about what you say, God will hold you accountable for every word.
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e247f6 No.12544
If this thread is anything to go by, then I am very disappointed in /Christianity/. You hardly seem like genuine followers of Jesus.
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6e39c9 No.12545
>>9739
They let in a load of sodomites in seminary in the 60s and have been paying the price ever since. This is why you don't engage in modernism. Any church that drapes themselves in the rainbow flag are reprobates.
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a435bf No.12549
>>12544
Argue against anything you disagree with. You're anonymous and we don't care about your moralizing schoolmarm take, that's the point.
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0ac274 No.12587
>>9739
I think it's safe to say it's prevalent throughout not only the Catholic church, but others as well. Islam does not attempt to enforce chastity and the current pope endorses it in place of Christianity. Letting people have a sexual outlet is far safer than generating incels and predatory priests, if you ask me. Full disclosure: Not a catholic.
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40d4ef No.12695
The Catholic Church has stood sentinal against homosexuality and sexual immorality in general for over 2000 years, where's your evidence that they actually support each other. Right now, there is a push by the homosexual community to convince Catholics specifically that it's "OK to be Gay". Why? Because Lucifer's ultimate goal is the destruction of Our Lord's Holy Catholic Church.
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af2e16 No.12699
The problem with the catholic church is not the pedophilia but the fact that they keep covering it up. This is why central church structures don't work. Men are always fallible, and rather than admit that, people will hide the truth in order to keep the belief that their clergy are divine (and infallible).
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