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d8bf36 No.3482 [Last50 Posts]

>grow up in communist shithole with overstrained mother

>father killed himself shortly after birth

>no religious education at all

>communist shithole breaks down, now be poor on top of it

>get beaten up so badly in high school that you get diagnosed PTSD and drop out

>get thrown out of home at age 18 for being NEET.

>almost two decades of indulging into porn, masturbation, video games, failed attempts to get gf and other distractions, while being on welfare

>lose all friends, be completely alone, sit at home all day and night

>occasional suicide thoughts

>one day decide to order a Bible and to read about creation and maybe some uplifting stories

>not getting serious about it, just another self-help book

>suddenly the Lord reveals Himself

>have your agnostic world view turned entirely upside down and start believing in Jesus Christ

>realize that you are sinner

>that's a problem

>the Lord tells you clearly what He wants (repent and Matthew 18:20)

>decide to run away from Him for a year

>life gets even worse up to a point were everything falls apart and even mom threatens to cut you off for being such a failure

>with no options left finally decide to give in and do His will

>He heals you from adultery over night

>have the hardest fight with social anxiety demons and

>stumble into the predetermined church on Good Friday

>go through your first and best worship service of your life

>regularly return to church on later days and and meet charitable, non-judging people for the first time in your life

>get welcomed by the pastor and set on a journey to baptism

>all this despite having nobody introduce you to them

My old self is still in disbelief. Is this really happening? What the heck did the Bible do to me? My heathen family doesn't know anything about those recent developments. How do I tell them I'm on my way to be baptized?

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537cf3 No.3485

>>3482

>How do I tell them I'm on my way to be baptized?

I know this answer isn't as detailed as you may have wanted, but it's simple, and it's the truth.

As the old Nike slogan goes: Just Do It.

Also, congratulations on being on the road to baptism and God Bless you for everything you've gone through!

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d8bf36 No.3488

>>3485

Thank you for your kind words, Anon. I still have hard time believing myself how much my life has been turned around with just a few small steps.

I'm still worried about my family though. Some relatives might even get set on a path to follow my example, but some are atheists and these don't react well to conversions…

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537cf3 No.3489

>>3488

>but some are atheists and these don't react well to conversions…

If they give you some verbal gruff, just remember John 15:18, shrug it off, and pray for them. Keep you eyes and heart focused on this possibility, that through you, God may lead them to Himself:

>Some relatives might even get set on a path to follow my example

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49b342 No.3505

>>3489

>If they give you some verbal gruff

This is not about me, I'm used to getting ridiculed for everything I did in my past already and I will stand by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Though relationships are fragile in non-Christian family and the good news might fracture stuff at places not even related to me.

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537cf3 No.3516

>>3505

>Though relationships are fragile in non-Christian family and the good news might fracture stuff at places not even related to me.

What do you mean by this?

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41f96e No.3519

>>3516

>What do you mean by this?

In non-Christian families there is no common ground of (Christian) values, the whole clan adheres to. People mingle with anybody who does the butterflies in the stomach thing.

A convert can cause a chain reaction. For example one close relative might gravitate towards Christ, because he or she is so impressed by your example, but their long-term relationship might be an atheist, who hates believers and breaks up after "losing" their partner. This becomes even worse when there are already children born out of wedlock (which is the norm in heathen families, I'm born out of wedlock as well).

Of course, in the end there is nothing the convert can do about it and even those "bad" things happening separating the weed from the chaff are God's will.

But nobody is going to like somebody, who "caused" all this by going on a "Jesus trip".

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537cf3 No.3526

>>3519

I see. As you said yourself, there is nothing that can be done about this, and ultimately the chips must fall where they may. Nevertheless, you sound worried about something more than just mean words. Is there a possible threat of something more if certain individuals take this all the wrong way? I'll be praying for you.

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41f96e No.3529

>>3526

>I see. As you said yourself, there is nothing that can be done about this, and ultimately the chips must fall where they may.

I realize this. It feels like Half-Life: Unforeseen consequences. When I first opened the Bible in 2017, I set these events in motion.

>Nevertheless, you sound worried about something more than just mean words. Is there a possible threat of something more if certain individuals take this all the wrong way?

Heathens are not Muslim-tier (killing relatives who go apostate), so let's hope some relatives being uncomfortable around me is all I have to account for.

Though my few old friends are a different story, I disclosed it to one close one and promptly got an alienated response. Since then this contact withered. The others still don't know.

>I'll be praying for you.

Thank you very much, God bless you.

BTW: God curing me from adultery over night meant He set me on nofap since the Holy Week. It's already doing wonders on my social anxiety. So lets hope I make some new friends for the ones lost on the way.

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bb5a0a No.3544

>>3482

Thanks for sharing your testimony. God bless you and keep the faith.

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537cf3 No.3553

>>3529

Okay, I was worried for a second there. I've parted ways with some toxic friends in the past. It hurts a lot a first, especially if you've had a "brother from another mother" level of closeness with them. However, in the long run, cutting ties with some toxic people was one of the best decisions in my life, and has ultimately greatly contributed to my emotional, mental, and spiritual health.

Also, congratulations on your NoFap streak and the fruits you are reaping from it! I'm currently on the longest NoFap streak I've ever had, and know them feels.

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d0d9fb No.3587

>>3544

I decided to share this, because I've read from so many seeking anons stuck in dark places, loneliness and despair.

Even when you start with a life completely in shambles from an non-religious background, with NO connection to faith, NO connection to Christians whatsoever, there IS hope.

I never personally met a missionary on a soul-winning campaign, Christian counselor or any other spiritual advisor pointing me towards Jesus Christ before. I didn't have any friends dragging me with them into church. I ended up stuck in a godless neighborhood.

The Lord Himself aligned all the stars needed to get me on track towards the light. When I was resisting in sin, He left me with my free will choice, so I could endure the consequences. And the living God forgave and took me back immediately, when I submitted to His will.

>>3553

>I've parted ways with some toxic friends in the past. It hurts a lot a first, especially if you've had a "brother from another mother" level of closeness with them.

I already cut off a toxic guy few months back after an hours long phone call, where I realized, that he was abusing and insulting me, but we were never that close.

The other friendship was very close in my/our youth, but never toxic, so I decided to share my conversion. But people like you how you were, not how you become. She was clearly uncomfortable with the idea of an old friend becoming Christian.

>congratulations on your NoFap streak and the fruits you are reaping from it!

It wouldn't be possible without Jesus' help. I'm was struggling with quitting porn addiction since 2014 (still as a nonbeliever). Early this year I asked Him to free me from sin for the Holy Week at least and He healed from the all the urges and temptations entirely. It's a miracle I didn't plan for. That is the power of faith.

BTW: The idea of picking up the Bible for seeking answers came from Christians on various image boards. God bless you all.

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92a0fd No.3842

Recently I was speaking to the deacon (independent from the church I'm going to) about my porn addiction and how it separated me from God. I didn't mention NoFap, but it was pretty clear to him, what I was talking about. Though he isn't educated about the consequences of this addiction, in this regard we're still kind of in the era, when heroine was still legal.

Another topic which came up was my double life as Christian and the old heathen mask I still show to my family. The deacon sees no reason to force the issue on that side, unless the topic comes up naturally. He congratulated me to my decision to get baptized.

It's extremely helpful to have someone to talk to outside your parish, so you don't overwhelm your new pastor with all your baggage. This is something I should have done 20 years ago.

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0ea9d6 No.3937

This Sunday I returned to the church for worship, as I plan to do every Sunday. A few more parish members recognized me as recurring new guest in their church. Thank God, Who gifted me the ability to socialize on a basic level just at the right time. Something I wouldn't have anticipated being able to a year ago. Talking to "strangers", remembering names and faces, you know all this scary stuff a loner robot avoids. With Jesus' help I could get comfortable with it - NoFap is a true miracle.

The horrendous anxiety before and after visiting church is now entirely gone. The demons trying to talk me out of my Christian endeavor became as good as silent. My faith is strong, the Holy Ghost is influencing my daily life, the living God is there.

Thank you Father, thank you Jesus. And thank you my Christian fellows. Without you evangelizing on halfchan and fullchan this would have never been possible.

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b7bc4a No.3946

>>3937

Thanks for sharing your testimony as it unfolds. I'm sure there are others who will be encouraged.

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0ea9d6 No.3964

>>3946

Thank you for your encouragement. I know even when nobody replies, it will be read by many isolated anons, who might have lost their faith or never believed.

I forgot a part of the story: I also met the oldest guy of the parish, who seemingly needed somebody to talk to after service, and Lord just seated me right next to him and tasked me with that. Only now hours after the service I realize how I was executing the plan.

t. Anon, who couldn't keep a conversation going with anybody and completely froze in front of any attractive lady just a few weeks back this year

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fdb6c9 No.4043

Oh frick, I slowly realize now what happened putting me onto the whole faith rollercoaster:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_with_the_Holy_Spirit

I just remembered praying in 2017 for the receiving the Holy Ghost few weeks after my conversion, I must have gotten the idea from Luke 11:13, thinking a little prayer couldn't harm…

Before I met other Christians in person I was thinking my state of faith is the "normal" state of a Christian follower of Jesus. Now I realize that I received a special gift. That is why I sense a permanent divine presence and have no option but to do the Lords will.

This is absolutely amazing and scary at the same time!

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b7bc4a No.4063

>>4043

The baptism of the spirit accompanies salvation. What do you mean that it occurred after conversion? By conversion do you just mean you only intellectually decided Christianity was correct at that time?

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a2af70 No.4082

>>4063

The conversion happened, when through the Bible I became sure, the Father does exist and can be addressed with prayers. That didn't happen solely in the mind, it came from the heart.

Only after my conversion I was starting doing honest prayers.

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0abe0a No.4090

>>4082

When do you think you were saved, the "baptism of the spirit" or the conversion?

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a2af70 No.4091

>>4090

With my conversion I was able to understand sin, the Gospel and why Jesus Christ died for us at the cross and resurrected three days later. When I accepted that and started believing that Jesus is the Lord and savior, I think I got saved. That was the easy part.

Asking for and receiving the Holy Spirit was a separate thing, which came into effect much later, with effects much harder to handle.

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b7bc4a No.4093

>>4091

Why don't you think that the indwelling by the spirit happened at the point of salvation?

Romans 8:11 NASB — But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

Doesn't this seem to say that salvation requires the presence of the spirit?

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a2af70 No.4097

>>4093

>Doesn't this seem to say that salvation requires the presence of the spirit?

Sorry, I'm not a theologian, just a layman describing his experience.

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b7bc4a No.4098

>>4097

Everyone is a theologian

I'm telling you that what you're perceiving doesn't line up with what the Bible says.

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a2af70 No.4100

>>4098

>Everyone is a theologian

I might consider myself a theologian, when studied theology, currently I'm not even baptized yet.

>I'm telling you that what you're perceiving doesn't line up with what the Bible says.

So you think the gift the apostles received on Pentecost (Acts 8:15-17) is required to get salvation and everyone else goes to hell?

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665239 No.4101

>>4100

No. Those spiritual gifts have ceased.

I'm saying that everyone who is saved receives the spirit at that point.

Are you saying that there are people who are saved but not indwelled, so they won't be resurrected?

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a2af70 No.4105

>>4101

>No. Those spiritual gifts have ceased.

Which is what I thought, too. Then I got proven wrong by the Lord.

>everyone who is saved receives the spirit at that point.

I think we are talking about different things here.

You know for sure when you received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, because it's absolutely obvious to yourself and others in your vicinity. It's not a gift "everyone" gets, because you need to explicitly ask for it, might still not get and if you get, deal with the consequences.

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f239e5 No.4136

Recently I had a nice evening with three other candidates for baptism and the pastor in church.

Things I learned:

1. The pastor has strong principles and stands firm on the ground of credobaptism. I interpret this as a good sign - theologically he is not the "everything goes" type. This is what I was looking for after converting.

2. Experiencing the persistent presence of God is an undeserved gift by the Lord not everyone receives (as I already figured out on my own). But I can use it to help others in reaffirming their faith by testifying.

3. Some people are many, many years with the parish, but postpone their baptism much longer than me as a previous heathen. For me it's not even a question to show my obedience to God.

All attendees including the pastor were convinced, that they already knew me from way before Easter - kind of like a deja-vu. Thing is: I hid like a hermit at home and never ever visited church before Good Friday this year. That testimonial felt kind of supernatural.

NoFap update: I'm on day 25 now. Social anxiety and feeling of awkwardness are completely gone. I sat next to a ravishingly beautiful young lady, who could sing like an angel, during the whole evening and I wasn't intimidated the slightest. And the best thing: absolutely no impure thoughts. I could appreciate God's amazing creation and at the same time see the regular imperfect human, make eye contact and converse like a normal person.

This is tremendous progress. I never expected this outcome and huge transformation from my decision to devote my life to the Lord Jesus Christ. Glory to God in the highest!

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e217a8 No.4145

>>4105

Prove all of these from the Bible

>It's not a gift "everyone" gets

>you need to explicitly ask for it

>might still not get

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f41dc4 No.4148

>>4145

See Luke 11:13 and 1 Corinthians 12:11

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537cf3 No.4159

>>4148

>1 Corinthians 12:11

This verse is being utilized out of context here. The preceding verses, 1 Conrinthians 12:1-10, are about the diversity of gifts given by the Holy Spirit. In other words, "distributing to each person as He wills" is about who gets which specific gifts that are beneficial to the Body of Christ as a whole: such as wisdom, healing, different kinds of languages, faith, miracles, etc. It's about how everyone gets gifts that are unique to that individual, depending on God's will for that person, not about who gets the Holy Spirit period.

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537cf3 No.4161

>>4136

>3. Some people are many, many years with the parish, but postpone their baptism much longer than me as a previous heathen. For me it's not even a question to show my obedience to God.

Be careful not to fall into pride or judgement of others based on this. Remember the Parable of the Vineyard Workers from Matthew 20:1-16. People come to Christ and are sanctified at different rates, depending on God's will. Some get saved at 5 years old, and some don't get saved until they are 90 years old and on their death bed.

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f41dc4 No.4162

>>4161

As Christians we don't judge each other. It's up to God to judge.

I just learned that some Christians postpone baptism, despite believing in Christ and going to church. I have yet to understand that.

I'm the learner here, not the teacher or judge. As the fallible beginner I am I won't get everything right on the first try.

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e217a8 No.4163

>>4148

1 Cor 12 is saying that people receive different spiritual gifts, but EVERYONE receives at least one

1 Corinthians 12:7 NASB — But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.

This chapter is counter to your argument. It is saying that everyone who is saved has the spirit, and the spirit distributes gifts as a result of his indwelling.

>Luke 11:13 NASB — “If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your fnheavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”

Which if your premises does this prove? The question asked is identical with the request for salvation.

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f41dc4 No.4167

>>4163

>1 Cor 12 is saying that people receive different spiritual gifts, but EVERYONE receives at least one

And what is with numerous followers of Jesus, who didn't receive at least one spiritual gift? Do they suddenly stop existing?

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e217a8 No.4169

>>4167

How did you conclude that they exist? Are you using anecdotal evidence as a counter to what the Bible says?

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f41dc4 No.4170

>>4169

>How did you conclude that they exist?

"Everyone" is a universal quantifier.

Universal quantifiers have the great property, that they can be disproved by only one example.

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e217a8 No.4171

>>4170

I know, but I'm not making the claim of "everyone" on my own authority. It is directly lifted from the Bible, which is inerrant.

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f41dc4 No.4172

>>4171

>I know, but I'm not making the claim of "everyone" on my own authority. It is directly lifted from the Bible, which is inerrant.

So when we see at least one believer and follower of Jesus Christ, who didn't receive a spiritual gift and testified about it, what concludes from that?

1. The word of God is incorrect.

2. Our fallible human understanding of the word of God is incorrect.

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e217a8 No.4173

>>4172

3. That person has a gift but doesn't know it

4. That person isn't actually saved

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f41dc4 No.4174

>>4173

When I'm in doubt about if a fellow Christian is saved, I ask the Lord Himself about it. Depending on the answer, I pray for them accordingly.

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e217a8 No.4175

>>4174

Are you saying that you receive direct prophecy from the Lord

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537cf3 No.4176

>>4162

Fair enough; just making sure and watching out for you, and I pray the same for you to watch out for me.

As for this:

>I just learned that some Christians postpone baptism, despite believing in Christ and going to church. I have yet to understand that.

It could be due to any number of factors. One thing to consider is that in 1 Conrinthians 12:1-10, there are several different gifts listed, like miracles, wisdom, healing, languages, etc. All of these require faith in Christ as a prerequisite. Yet in the same passage, faith is listed as it's own unique gift apart from the others. Why? More than likely because some people are gifted with a greater faith then others, and even then, that faith can vacillate at times.

Peter boldly walked on water, and then sank as soon as some doubt creeped in. He denied Christ three times, and then went on to become one of the most important and preeminent apostles. Paul went from being a murderous persecuting Pharisee, to writing most of the epistles of the New Testament almost overnight. Yet even he, at one point, "despaired for life itself" after this experience ( 2 Corinthians 1:8) Some, like the Centurion and the woman with a never-ending blood flow where healed just by hearing Jesus' guarantee or just by touching the hem of his garment. Some blind men were healed just by hearing his words. Yet some needed to see and experience miracles. The father with the demon possessed spastic boy famously said "Lord, I believe! Help my unbelief!" (Mark 9:24.) There was also a blind man who was healed gradually little by little rather than instantly, due to his weaker faith (Mark 8:22-26)

So faith could be an issue. It could also be a matter of them feeling an urge to understand their denomination and history of Christianity inside out before the feel comfortable to join, such as due to a bad experience from just jumping into a previous church that had bad theology or other problems. Sometimes it can be a case of cultural Christianity. Or it could be God holding them back because they are not quite ready yet. There are many many X factors to consider. Ultimately only God can judge the heart for sure.

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f41dc4 No.4179

>>4175

>Are you saying that you receive direct prophecy from the Lord

I receive useful, non-arbitrary answers from the living God to many (not all) of my questions brought up in prayer on various ways, sometimes immediately, sometimes later than I expect.

My in understanding, the gift of prophecy goes far beyond that.

>>4176

>So faith could be an issue. It could also be a matter of them feeling an urge to understand their denomination and history of Christianity inside out before the feel comfortable to join, such as due to a bad experience from just jumping into a previous church that had bad theology or other problems.

The fellow brought up a story about being an outcast at their village church, because their parents were from a different denomination unlike the rest of the village, which was obviously the reason, why no baptism happened in the first place.

I just begin to realize the grace of having found such a welcoming, non-judging parish at literally the first try. I think that was the actual lesson I got told that evening.

Thank you for pointing me in the right direction, brother. God bless you.

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f41dc4 No.4196

>>4175

Just one practical example, because you were asking:

In the other (more Catholic) board, a desperate Anon who has a 10 years civil marriage got denied absolution from his priest, because he didn't convalidate his marriage in church. The priest asked him to leave his wife and stop cohabiting.

I prayed for for this Anon and asked the Lord about this sad spiritual guidance and His will.

He answered with "one flesh" and then the literal words of Mark 10:9. ("What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.") in my native language. I knew it was from the Bible, but I had to search for the place, because I didn't know where (no, I had not ready to go bookmark around).

So it became clear to me, that God sees one flesh already and that the "man" trying to separate it, is the priest, who is in sin by doing so.

I slowly start to understand how Luther got driven into posting theses onto church doors.

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96c7df No.4198

>>4196

Supernatural recall of what the Bible says is fine, but claiming to be receiving additional prophecy is not.

When someone says "God told me I should marry you", you run away from that person.

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f41dc4 No.4199

>>4198

>"God told me I should marry you"

I don't think that is proper prophecy, because it contains a "should".

In my heathen past I very sparingly used my gift and I don't remember precise examples anymore. It was also pretty useless for people listening to me, because it was all inter-mingled with my personal opinion, back then I couldn't separate it (how without knowing the Lord?)

Let me make up an example similar enough to what I experienced:

Let's say we talk about you looking for a new job unsuccessfully and are on the brink of giving up. While exchanging ideas and giving my fallacious human advice, I get an sudden inspiration like "Your next interview is going to fail as well, but it opens a door to a place where you never looked." Because this sounds useful, I immediately decide to speak it out literally. It is still drowned in all the other advice/opinions of myself and you will say: "Thank you for comforting me" and don't think anything special about it. Weeks later you might remember it and call back: "You were right, this is exactly how it happened". Only then I was able to separate the inspiration retro-actively from my own thoughts.

Meanwhile I converted to Christianity, got to know the Lord and learned listening to Him. And I stopped giving fallacious advice to people. So the next time I receive good news for someone, it might actually be useful…

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bc7fd2 No.4200

>>4199

If you're now taking about receiving a spiritual gift BEFORE you're saved, you're totally beyond biblical orthodoxy. Start over and study what the Bible says.

Deuteronomy 18:10 NASB — “There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,…"

systematic theology easy mode:

Carm.org

Gotquestions.org

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f41dc4 No.4208

>>4200

Yes, I definitely received gifts, before I got converted. For example seven years ago I got gifted the seed to this (foreign) language, I'm now using to talk to you, because due to circumstances I left high school without it. I know it was a spiritual gift, because I started understanding it over night (very basic, not C2 level)

Without this gift and the ability to nourish it through the following years I could never talked to you guys on 4ch/8ch, I would have never heard about the Good News and would have never picked up the Bible.

The most interesting thing about my unfolding story is, that it didn't start with conversion, there was a long prelude leading up to it.

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e217a8 No.4212

>>4208

> I definitely received gifts, before I got converted.

is that compatible with what the bible says?

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dc2f71 No.4219

>>4212

What does the Bible tell about my present life?

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d33f53 No.4222

>>4219

You're avoiding the point that your claim on supernatural powers is incompatible with scripture

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dc2f71 No.4224

>>4222

>You're avoiding the point that your claim on supernatural powers is incompatible with scripture

First: Only God has supernatural powers and uses them, no human gets them. When God provides you with an inspiration about His plan, it's Him acting on you, not your "superpower".

You are claiming that the Almighty had no power over me until I recognized Him as my Lord and savior, because your interpretation of Scripture says otherwise?

I simply know it was Him and that He was with me my whole life, intervened at various occasions, and sometimes even listened to my undirected, non-serious prayers (that's the difference between agnostic not knowing Christ and an full-blown atheist).

That relationship got "upgraded", when I finally picked up the Bible and made a honest promise to repent and stop perpetual sinning.

I even got a "preview" of baptism as a young child, when some night I fainted on a landing stage and plunged backwards into water fully clothed. (Suddenly waking up fully submerged is something you never forget.) The adults told me that I was really lucky, that there wasn't a boat parked there at that night, which would have caused serious injury.

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b7bc4a No.4226

>>4224

It seems that you're not interested in revaluating what you believe against what I'm trying to share with you about what the Bible says. You told me you practice divination, as a heathen and now as a Christian. Please repent.

I do not care about what you think you're experiencing as far as it is inconsistent with scripture.

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dc2f71 No.4229

>>4226

>You told me you practice divination, as a heathen and now as a Christian. Please repent.

I just inadvertently forwarded inspiration as a heathen, because I didn't know it actually existed and I could not distinguish it from my own ideas (How?).

Did I do divination? Never. Why should I?

>I do not care about what you think you're experiencing as far as it is inconsistent with scripture.

When the Lord speaks to humans in the Bible through various ways it's consistent, and when the Lord tells me His will (and I happily recognize and perform it instead of rejecting it), it's inconsistent with Scripture? What?

When the Lord Jesus talks to Saul in Acts 9, did Saul believe in Jesus as the Lord and was already saved before that happened? Or did he make the deliberate choice to convert afterwards?

I honestly try to understand your point, but you're talking in riddles.

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b7bc4a No.4237

>>4229

Let me explain my point more simply. I'm not meaning to be figurative at all.

You say that before conversion you would "receive inspiration" about the future: that is explicitly divination.

You say it was a spiritual gift, but that is impossible before salvation.

There is a good argument that prophecy can still exist by Christians, but I'm one who rejects it (cessationism). Saul was physically met by Jesus, and he was a prophet (as Paul) since he wrote scripture.

I'm trying to push you to refine your theology on this topic by finding your reasoning, and all I'm seeing are anecdotes and unsubstantiated claims about how God interacts with us. Like I said, this is giving me a feeling that our conversation isn't productive.

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dc2f71 No.4254

>>4237

Are you by any chance Catholic-Orthodox?

That would explain all the needless confusion.

Just a reminder: The Lord isn't bound to your church's rules.

My pastor (graduated theologian) understands my journey and that's good enough for me.

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d33f53 No.4255

>>4254

Im evangelical

My pastor (graduated theologian) would tell you what I've been saying

Are you Pentecostal?

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b235e6 No.4270

>>4255

>Are you Pentecostal?

This an interesting question, because I'm not part of any denomination yet. As you might have guessed from the thread, I still have to be baptized (with water so to speak) and join a parish.

The Lord Himself (and nobody else) lead me to a small Baptist church, not to a Pentecostal one. It seems, the Lord doesn't care much about theological specifics and puts me where He needs me most to build His kingdom.

Even when I figure out, that a charismatic parish would fit my personal preferences better, it's the Lord's choice where I end up, not my own. It's His will I obey and no human will talk me out of it.

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a7926a No.4308

Was on another recreational activity in church: Few people meeting up voluntarily to watch movies, making music, singing songs and eating together.

The lady from >>4136 came about and told me, that she likes having me around. Guess I made some new friends, easing the choice of the seat row I end up in worship service next.

Note: This Anon used to be someone, anyone could barely tolerate (including his family), who used to sit in the corner alone in any social context before leaving in shame and never return again.

But somehow the Lord Jesus transformed the trainwreck described in OP into a likable person using NoFap. Absolutely incredible.

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0e0e23 No.4349

Another worship service: Singer lady became a recurring character in my story, appeared in the lobby before service and invited me to the front row. I boldly agreed, Though nobody else moved up to the front, so I was sitting just with her in front of the whole congregation. Great! Exactly the thing shy Anon needs (am I still the same person described in the OP?)

It looks like once I mastered a challenge, God throws in the next one with higher difficulty.

Though it went unexpectedly well. While the flesh was weak and started sweating, the mind stayed crystal-clear. No anxiety at all, no nervousness, completely collected and relaxed, feeling great while the body tried the hardest to go into panic mode.

The whole experience turned out great with the band right in front, while having an amazing voice singing right next to me, praising the Lord the whole time. Thank you, Lord, this was absolutely incredible. Oh, and the lady struggled with staying upright when standing up for prayer and even commented on it. Seems she was a little bit overwhelmed after being next to Anon for over an hour.

And then after service, out of the blue, one band member came along and asked if I'm with her. If she brought me newbie with her to church he meant, but his wording was confusing, so I got confused for a split second, before explaining the situation in a completely relaxed manner. I just remember when getting surprise questions in the past, I had appropriate answers about one minute after the conversation finished (aka crashed). Not anymore.

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0e0e23 No.4361

>>4136

>>4308

>>4349

Oh Lord, I just realized how this "accident" all my fault.

I just remembered how as a new convert around Christmas 2017 I essentially described the Lord exactly this companion:

>Bible-believing Christian

>no baggage

>prime age to gift Him many children

>beautiful

>musically gifted

My understanding back then was, when I pray for what is essentially

>make anime real

I possibly might grab some consolation price somewhere around five years later.

Hello? Who could have expected that the most unrealistic prayer ever is going to be answered this literally and this quick? I'm so not ready for it…

Lesson to learn for you, Anon: Always be wary of what you ask for…

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0885cc No.4363

how do i unsubscribe from this blog

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d2889b No.4377

>>4363

You pray to the Lord, that He may gift you wisdom, so you can find the [-] button on this thread.

However what were you looking for on /christianity/ then?

What do you dislike about testimonials of the Lord Jesus Christ being alive, that He loves us so much, that He heals even the worst sinners with His endless grace and is doing good round the clock?

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fc593c No.4558

>>3482

>>4361

Quick update: There is mutual attraction and a talented, beautiful schoolgirl just fell in love with me.

It's true - the Lord just made anime real.

Faith can do miracles.

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6c0ab8 No.4853

Blog update: I officially joined my parish. I was unanimously voted in.

The romantic side-plot I never planned for also continued to develop. Last week I dressed up a little bit before meeting my schoolgirl at church and she promptly started mentioning her boyfriend repeatedly testing my reaction. There was not a single reason to do so, because I still have not made any explicit advances at all. She inadvertently revealed her intentions by her behavior. :->

Of course I kept my frame without blinking an eye. On the next day she honored that by wearing a flower dress in rather cold weather and being the nicest person ever.

So it seems, despite being in a strictly chaste environment, for her the game is on now.

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e2184d No.5988

This Pentecost I got baptized by full submersion. It was a surreal experience. Entering the congregation in my white robe with everyone standing up felt a little bit like getting married.

Then I had to sit through the first part of the service, while the tension slowly built up.

After entering the font and declaring Jesus as my Lord and savior I started dazing and I was completely stunned when I emerged again.

After changing into my regular clothes, I got showered with gifts by various parish members.

What a day, glory to the Lord!

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6b7d69 No.12310

found this on page 25 and thought it worthy of a bump

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8af692 No.12312

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>>3482

Well not everyone's experience is the same. I'm Christian and still want to kill myself every day and pray regularly to God to kill me so I won't have to do it myself. Stopped going to church too since they just flat-out lie to people about the state of the world and reinforce status quo. Now I just stay home and read the Bible by myself.

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0dd40d No.12901

May God bless and keep you, brother. Hearing your story has helped me on a sad and lonely night. Thank you.

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a8c37f No.12902

Holy anointing oil ingredients?

Ancient stone carvings of Tree of Life resemble what plant?

How was the oil used? How much?

Tree of knowledge stone carvings? Paintings? Stained glass windows in churches?

Good search tool https://www.sacred-texts.com/

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