bdfa42 No.10274
What would the world look like without the protestant reformation?
Here's what it would be like:
>No 30 years war. millions of lives saved
>no upheaval, europe better able to fight off ottomans and Balkans never fall to Muslim control
>Crusades continue, Christendom takes back Constantinople and most of the Near East. Deus Vult!
>The Roman church was itself aware of many of the faults called out by the reformers and would have probably taken action even if the “protestants” had not taken such a vocal stand against them.
>With Islam defeated, a united Christian Europe goes on to convert the world to Christianity
>Catholic America never legalizes slavery, as a result America is sill a white country
>Prussia never arises, as a result there is no German empire and World War I and World War II never occurs
>Without WWI there is no Russian revolution and communion never arises.
>Modernism, postmodernism never arise, there is no sexual revolution and the breakdown of the family never occurs
>A more peaceful, happier world emerges in the 20th century
Deus Vult!!!
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a5a81e No.10277
>The Roman church was itself aware of many of the faults called out by the reformers
Protestantism was thoroughly refuted at Trent, and most of the Counter-Reformation Saints also refuted it.
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56be50 No.10283
The RCC would still have political power and would never have gone back on shit like geocentrism. You think it was a good life when they were in power but my guess is you would actually not have liked to live in that world.
Catholic Church attendance is in crisis, the bottom is falling out because nobody wants to go or live that way.
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bdfa42 No.10285
>>10283
>Galileo later defended his views in Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems (1632), which appeared to attack Pope Urban VIII and thus alienated him and the Jesuits, who had both supported Galileo up until this point.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei
The church would have accepted heliocentrism
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b5aeaf No.10286
>>10283
>Catholic Church attendance is in crisis, the bottom is falling out because nobody wants to go or live that way.
Yeah, the Novus Ordite pederast counter-church is basically finished. Traditional Catholicism continues to grow.
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6d935d No.10289
The reformation was inevitable. The Roman church taught heresy and continues to do so, but the Biblical gospel shone forth by divine providence.
If not Luther in 1517, a different reformation would have occured. Britain in 1600, Switzerland in 1650, who knows.
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0c6bd7 No.10291
Papal secular authority, Papal supremacy, Catholic legalism, Materialism and scholastic autism is what led to reformation. It was inevitable.
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79a1ef No.10296
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d97f42 No.10299
>>10274
Protties were the original liberal revolutionaries.
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c872af No.10321
>>10274
>>No 30 years war. millions of lives saved
>>no upheaval, europe better able to fight off ottomans and Balkans never fall to Muslim control
I always love it when papists cite their own anti-Protestant aggression as a baleful influence of the Reformation. Complete victim blaming, "if you never existed we wouldn't have tried to murder you!"
If we have anyone to blame for the wars of religion, it's Rome and the Counter-Reformation.
The rest of this is either cringy LARP or complete bullshit.
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9daf8c No.10326
I love when Catholics act like they weren't the first schismatics from the original church body, then throw around terms like "muh Christendom" and "muh Constantinople". Adorable.
>>>/christian/
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543ce1 No.10327
>>10283
>Catholic Church attendance is in crisis, the bottom is falling out because nobody wants to go or live that way.
this, if it were so great people would want to live like the catholic church tells them, they don't. 99% of catholics have sex before being married with multiple partners
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a5a81e No.10333
>>10321
Wow, the Papists sure did a number to England and the unity of Europe.
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1ac9ce No.10359
>>10327
>>10327
>The church is bad because its teachings against fornication are unpopular with this sonful world
The absolute state of protestants
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efc0c4 No.10364
>>10359
>every inane post is a Protestant
>That Protestant represents Protestantism
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dd7bfa No.10409
>>10289
this. Luther lived unlike John Hus who sought reform in his age
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c872af No.10434
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8cdde2 No.10443
>>10274
>.What would the world look like without the protestant reformation?
Brazil, Mexico, or Burkina Faso. Not really a world I want to live in.
Catholic butthurtposting is so tiresome.
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56be50 No.10446
>>10443
>Brazil, Mexico, or Burkina Faso. Not really a world I want to live in.
seriously , if catholics like it so much they should move to mexico city
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61c493 No.10565
>>10299
<Strange that theyre were considered rightwing extremists by anyone with brains
<but please, regal me with an explanation as to how the Puritans were "liberal"
>>10326
<used to only entertain that idea for the sake of fairness when engaging with orthos
<I know fully believe it
>>10274
<yurop and the new world would be third world shitholes
<like mexico, but far far worse
<you seem to not understand how history works as well, its not a feild of dominoes, one thing leading directly to another
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