088ed7 No.12716
what is the best form of protestantism and what is the worst form? why? i need a denomination.
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d0a0a4 No.12718
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>>12716
>what is the best form of protestantism and what is the worst form?
You must be convinced in your conscience of whatever theological tradition you ascribe yourself to. One way or another you'll develop your own opinion on that in time. No denomination or church is perfect in doctrine or practice. I believe the tradition with the closest church structures to what is described in scripture are Baptists. I believe that the tradition with the best overall grasp of how to interpret scripture are Calvinists. There are Baptists who are also Calvinists, sometimes called Reformed Baptists. We like to sing A Mighty Fortress and then eat chickens. Have a sample sermon.
The worst form of Protestantism are liberal churches, regardless of denomination. If a church looks like it's infected by the political left, you can rest assured that their theology has collapsed out from under them too. They exist on a spectrum, so be wary.
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d34461 No.12719
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63deff No.12723
Hey, /christianity/, I was thinking about making a sandwich and I'm not sure what to put on it. What form of poop is the best? Should it be more or less solid or kind of runny? Also, is their a good color? Because I'm not sure if I should go more green or brown?
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c74d77 No.12728
Sacramental protestantism, otherwise you have to make light of Jesus' words.
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780790 No.12736
>>12716
Just read and believe the Bible. Joining a denomination is carnal because of 1 corinthians 3:3-4
>For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
>For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
and 1 corinthians 1:12-13
>Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
>Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
<I am of the pope
<I am of calvin
<I am of *insert thing that is not Christ here*
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c631db No.12748
>>12719
>all the low churches in the upper tiers
>all the high churches in the lower tiers
>televangelists in the middle of the chart
Weird taste.
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663f77 No.12754
>>12736
>Joining a denomination is carnal
Restorationist detected.
>For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
You completely miss the point of denominations and of that passage. Brothers will have sincere disagreements on all kinds of very significant doctrines. We have to have a name for those groups of doctrines in order to be able to meaningfully talk about them and recognize those differences. We could call them anything we wanted. We could name them after our favorite sandwiches, as long as everyone knew which sandwich corresponded to which doctrines.
This has nothing to do with taking sides against brothers, vain dissensions, which is what the passage is talking about. Paul and Apollos were teaching the same thing, which is why many people think Apollos might have written Hebrews. People were deciding who they wanted to be associated with on the basis of, it would seem to me, which ever workman would grant them more eminence among the brethren. Which yeah, obsession with rank and social clout is vapid and carnal.
><I am of the pope
>
><I am of calvin
>
><I am of *insert thing that is not Christ here*
Both groups say they are of Christ quite explicitly. Should we just do away with our group names and pretend we're all one big family, despite the fact that we're talking about two very different Christs? Do you even understand the nature of the Roman sacramental system, with the treasury of merit and the intercessory work of Mary? Are you sure you want to lump yourself in with them?
What about Calvinists vs Arminians? Names for two different understandings of how salvation works according to scripture. If you're a restorationist, you probably don't want to be associated with Calvinists because you might even consider us heretics. You should be happy that we have a different name. Or do you want to be associated with people who believe that Jesus only gave his life for a definite people whom the Father elected to salvation before creation?
Presbyterians vs Baptists? If you're a restorationist, then you'll agree with us Baptists that the proper and most God honoring way to practice baptism is by full body immersion, and only of someone professing faith. Presbyterians practice baptism by sprinkling or pouring water onto someone, and they believe in baptizing babies of their members as a sign of the new covenant, like Jews did with circumcision.
Do I think Presbyterians have some seriously screwed up views on baptism? Yes. Do I think we need to do separate things, according to our consciences, in order to maintain peace? Yes. But those are still my brothers in Christ. Same deal with Lutherans, and they're even more wacky sometimes. This isn't about vain dissensions. We all bear the name of Christ. It's about doctrinal unity and keeping a clean conscience.
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36cd63 No.12755
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62c967 No.12758
>>12719
>PCA in the same tier as OPC
Yikes
>No RPCNA
Too based for this chart anyway
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732a02 No.12774
>>12716
High church Lutheran is the best conservation of the early church
>sacraments
>deuterocannon
>councils
>tradition ( 2 thess 2:15)
>saints (as heroes but not as pagan gods)
> liturgy
> bishops
> vestments
LCMS and WELS only tho
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ca4314 No.12790
>>12748
They aren't high churches they're just the largest body of those denominations and they have descended into homosexual clericity.
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f7595e No.12815
>>12718
I love this church's ministry. I don't get the tattoos and beards, but whatever.
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61673f No.12843
>>12719
What is the difference between the PCA and Orthodox Presbyterians?
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42b33e No.12846
>>12774
They lose just on name alone. Not even Luther would approve.
Why they never took the same Evangelical label as the Germans, I don't know.
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9cac82 No.12850
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794eec No.12867
>>12716
>best form of protestantism
Best: <null>
Worst: All forms of protestantism
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus: there is no salvation outside of the Catholic church.
I'm simply telling you the absolute facts, not trying to convince you, but rather, answering your question. Go ahead and worship protestant heresy and disregard the teachings of the Holy Bible all you like…after all, you do have free will. ;)
<Source: Catechism of the Council of Trent
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404a15 No.12868
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f92cfb No.12883
>>12846
>Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
>Evangelical Lutheran Synod
Please, do take ten seconds to look s— up next time.
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6dfa32 No.12884
>best
High church Lutheran with conservative theology
>worst
Basically everything else
Protestantism is heterodox.
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f54b78 No.12889
>best
Reformed baptist or non-denominational
>worst
High church Anglicanism….like, just join the roman church already if being a slave is your thing.
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756d28 No.12891
>>12719
>United Methodist
>Sodomite Tier
The UMC is ironically the only Mainline Protestant denomination that still officially opposes gay marriage and affirms that homosexuality is incompatible with the Christian teaching
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6ab5ec No.12894
>>12891
Have you been living under a rock? They have been carrying on in open contradiction with the written doctrine for years, and now the church is finally splitting. Homos are retaining the "united methodist" name, and traditionalists are forming a new denomination
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bf14fe No.12896
>>12716
Look for a free KJV Reformed church (baptist or pedobaptist doesn't matter as long as it preaches the Word), not for pseudo-conservative denominations like the OPC or the Missouri Synod
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756d28 No.12900
>>12894
Officially, the UMC still opposes homosexuality. It's a violation of church law and incompatible with the Christian teaching. Yes, there are a few individual churches and districts that defy the General Conference, and depending, they're liable for disciplinary action. They're the exception however, not the rule.
There has been no split in the denomination. One has been proposed, but it has not been voted on and won't be voted on until the 2020 General Conference; though that has been postponed to 2021. And, it may not even pass; though it is likely. However, it'll likely be the case that it won't pass unless the conservatives get more concessions such as retaining the UMC name and securing more funds for the traditionalist churches. Conservatives are the majority in this, and as always, it's just a loud, belligerent minority screeching until they get their way. Thankfully, the conservatives have not caved into any demands by the pro-LGBT crowd yet
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